>war movie before SPR>violent but adventurous >tragic but heroic>"Go get'em boys" attitude>well established, clear shots>you know what's going on>many different kinds of characters, some of them charismatic and funny>nazis are competent adversaries, their perspective is often shown to get better insights into what's at stake>WW2 veterans in advisory roles on set>war movies after SPR>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH WAR LE BAAAAD! *cries and shits himself*>overly dramatic and sensational>endless shaky cam shots>"Duuude, there's dirt on the lenses! It's like I'm really there! (it wouldn't have gone down like that if I had been!)">nazis are comical villains and war is never shown from their side>brown and gray filterIs there a single movie that did more damage to a specific genre?
>muh zogbot slop isn't kino anymore!!!!
>>200751855>Saving Private Ryan ruined WW2 movies foreverActually the bad guys winning ww2 ruined not only ww2 movies forever but most other aspects of life in general
>>200751855It's one of the best war kinos to this day
>>200751855>nazis are comical villains and war is never shown from their sidethis one is especially bewilderingIf you watch A bridge to far or the longest day you constantly get scenes with german officers reacting and planning and scheming and whatnotThis is virtually inexistent in modern war movies.What's up with that?
>>200751855We did it guys! We beat the Nazis!
Heaven's GateThe Lion KingJurassic ParkStar Wars
>>200751855I think it's more accurate to say that Spielberg ruined cinema in general.
>>200752012Hollywood has depicted Nazis a lot more favorably than they really were - a bunch of drug addict degenerates killing Europeans and Americans.
>>200751993I would argue that it's okay for what it did. It composes its shots really well and I think at the time the color filtering was something fresh. But afterward, it became really annoying.
>>200752052The men yes, but not the idea
>>200752087>Hollywood has depicted Nazis a lot more favorably than they really were>pic is Schindlers Listthey probably elevated goeth to make the victory over him more gratifying.Other than that Fiennes is pretty fat in that shot as well.
>>200751855>actually nazis aren't comical villains They literally had skulls on their caps though.
>>200752145Both are pretty gay ngl
>>200752298>the entire wehrmacht is the SSYeah that's another thing.Watching modern WW2 movies you would get the impression that the SS was literally everywhere.In every fucking movie they can't just fight the Wehrmacht, no it's always the SS.Why?
>>200752459To be fair the Waffen SS did get about.
>>200752298Staple of Prussian military uniforms since forever
>>200752298They just had cool uniforms, that doesnt make them the villain.
>>200752087True. Hollywood Nazis are actually more competent than real Nazis.
>>200752529Yeah but it's always just for that one scene>soldier walks up to killed germans>"duuude, these aren't NORMAL germans... these are Waffen SS!"and that's it.And you never get to know what the fuckin point of that scene is, because there is none.Other than maybe stylization, and that is probably what's the biggest difference to older war movies.Older war movies aren't really stylized
Fury is a perfect example for thisIt's absolute fuckin slop and yet well receivedThe battle choreography is completely off too.>there is a tank that can punch a hole through the front of our burger boats >I know! Let's drive towards it over an open field, instead of, I don't know, use the guns on our turrets. Who needs that shit! This is a melee tank!What absolute dogshit.
>>200755664forgot picbut you know what this slop looks like anyway.
>>200751855>war movies before SPR>shit sound>worse actingI'll stick with modern GOOD movies, thanks.
>>200752202He still mogs "Goethe" mercilessly. The Chad Aryan vs the pretend "nazi" Aryan.
>>200757825>good acting is when soldiers.... le cry??
