In the Original Trilogy, Han Solo, and Imperial Officer Conan Antonio Motti are both skeptical of the effectiveness and even existence of the Force. How can this be? The prequels tell us that the Empire was founded in 19 BBY. Motti died in BBY, a middle-aged man. He was at least in his teenage years during the Jedi Purge. Han Solo was born in 29 BBY according to Wookiepedia. He would have been 10 when the Jedi Purge happened. That's young for sure, but not young enough to forget everything, and the Jedi were known around the galaxy, to the point where Watto, a junk trader on an outskirt planet, instantly recognizes an obscure Jedi technique when 0bi-Wan performs it on him. The Clone Wars gives us whole planets like Dathomir. Surely Imperial planers must have known about the Force-Sensitivity of its residents.The prequels aside, new material tells us that the Empire had many Hands and Inquisitors, clearly Force Sensitive agents at the Emperor's service, that Motti would have heard of, and people like Han may have heard rumors of.So how can the Force and Jedi be widely forgotten less than a generation after the Jedi order was destroyed?
>>200761783>Look at yourself. What has the force done for you, huh? You're a walking corpse angry at the world blaming everyone else for your own mistakes. Do you even look at yourself in the mirror sometimes or is the shame too much to bear? Even with your magic you have achieved nothing. You have no family, nor friends. And even if you had, they wouldn’t care. Nobody really cares about you. And it's not because of your appearance or your breathing or your voice, but because your own nasty attitude. The only reason you are here is because the emperor feels sorry for you. So it’s not the force in which I have no faith. I don’t have faith in YOU, Vader. No matter what you do, you will always end up ruining everything just like you did with your own life and the lives of everyone around you.
>>200761783It was witchcraft from Lesbos's
>>200761783>0bi-Wan>zerobi-wanwhat did op mean by this?
>>200761783big galaxy
>>200761783simple answer is Lucas didn't really think that hard with the prequels so what would be obvious things to avoid such as making them take place fairly early to the og, or even having the jedi be not only extremely well known but an intergral part of the republic was just over looked
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>>200761783For Motti it was less that he didn't believe in it and more that he just looked down upon it and didn't take it seriously. That scene was just for the audiences first practical use of the Force by the villain anyway.
>>200761783Because Lucas later retconned a whole of things from A New Hope.
>>200761783>everything after the OT is written worse than the OT, which was not well writtenNews at 11. It’s entertainment for children anon
>>200761783There was like 100,000 Jedi in a galaxy of trillions
>>200763082Actually just 10,000.
>>200761783Motti hasn't forgotten it, though. He's familiar with the concept of the Force. What he's saying is that he thinks it's bullshit, and he holds that opinion because he's never seen or experienced anything of the Force first-hand. It's not hard to believe that some individuals without a first-hand experience would be sceptical about it, even if they've heard from their been told or have read history holocrons about the Jedi. Han Solo had also heard of the Force before meeting Luke.
>>200761783>now go home and get your fucking podracer
>>200763149>Actually just 10,000.there would have to be way more than just 10,000 people in the entire galaxy. hell a Star Destroyer is supposed to have a crew of 25,000
>>200761783>Conan AntonioThat Conan Antonio thing is NOT canon. It's not hard canon. It was just some off-the-cuff remark George Lucas made on the Conan O Brien show, and some gigachuds said, "Oh, it's the word of God, it's canon!!!" NO IT ISN'T, WHITE BOY. AND YES, I HAVE BEEN SEETHING ABOUT IT FOR OVER A DECADE.
>>200761783Several characters say "may the Force be with you" in A New Hope. If anything they know TOO much about the Force. Han Solo has clearly heard of the concept before but is sceptical about it controlling his destiny nevertheless he eventually says "may the Force be with you" in the movie too. Motti is comparing Vader's powers to the power of a planet destroying battle station he is not skeptical of it's existence. Leia knows all about the Jedi and the Force. Young Luke is the only one who has never even heard about it but he does not question the words "Jedi Knight".
It’s like how atheists exist in real life.
>>200761783same way people on earth dont believe in christ despite all the proof.
>>200761783Everyone knew about the force (regular people say "may the force be with you")They just didn't think it was that big of a deal since they had a planet destroying laser beam and Jedi/Sith were basically just fighting each other with laser swords. Like who gives a shit
>>200763082that means jack shit when not only were they pretty much the closest the republic had to a military force for about a thousand years, but they also had mystical powers and were constantly in the news as well including the part were palpy said they tried to kill him and take over, lets not forget how wato, some merchant on a backwards planet that wasn't technically in the republic knew what a jedi mind trick was
>>200761783>oh I'm sorry Lord Vader, you mean the Thread?
>>200764781Kek. Show me the proof of your crucified lord lol
Believing the jedi has magic powers that allowed them to jump high is very different to believing the force controls everyone's destiny and is more powerful than a battle station capable of one shooting a planet.
>>200764019This thread is just bait, this is easy to understand as you well put it. If priests could jump and do flips there would still be people not believing in thr concept of God and would ridicule you if you said nukes were meaningless next to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.Not to mention jedis got rekt so clearly for the average the dude this so called force isn't all powerful.
>>200765129Space herpies*
>>200764781If christians started levitating during prayer we would all believe in God.
>>200761783how do people not trust the science?
>>200761783Because Lucas didn't really think that deep into it. Watch Plinkett reviews.
>>200761783Because most people/aliens never met or even saw a jedi in their entire lives. Then the empire spent the next 20 years shitting on them and down playing everything about them. It's not hard to understand you stupid fuck.
