>>201656840https://youtu.be/iJJFTOsk5Fw most people don't know this theme has lyrics
>>201658349the only correct answer
>>201659097When every movie review of "Against the Odds" is required to bring up the film it attempts to remake and 40 years later we only remember Phil Collins' theme music
>>201659820I've heard of that film but I refuse to watch remake of old noirs. They're basically a soulless softcore porn version of them just like the postman ring twice with jack nicholson. I prefer my noir with subtlety and sexual innuendo
>>201656840The Third Man is the best, after that watch Carol Reed's other masterpiece Odd Man Out, Orson's other masterpiece Touch of Evil, then Ride the Pink Horse.Asphalt JungleThe Set-upGun CrazyThe KillersLots of good stuff though most films labeled noir are not, the TSPDT list in particular is laughable.
>>201658235Is John Wayne in this?
This is considered the first true noir and it’s pretty good.
>>201661157By who?
>>201661402The Wikipedia article on the movie cites three different sources making the claim
>>201661157>This is considered the first true noirhuh? there are noir films as early as the 30s
>>201656840First you start with proto-noir:I Wake Up ScreamingThis Gun for HireHigh SierraMaltese FalconThen you go to 1944, the year when the the genre fully coalesced:Phantom LadyThe Woman in the WindowLauraDouble IndemnityMurder My SweetFrom there you can go wherever you want and explore whatever lists you can find. Just remember that the genre ended in 1955-1958 with Kiss Me Deadly and Touch of Evil.
>>201658349Start with Out of the Past, On Dangerous Ground - these are absolute marvels in every dept. For a low-budget miracle: Detour 1945. For a parody, Beat the Devil. Postman always rings twice 1946 is a must. Scarlet Street 1945.
I didn't like In a Lonely Place, but it's influential. The Big Knife, The Big Clock is so fun. Narrow Margin!! Cat People is essential.
>>201656840>Where do you start with noir kino?The Maltese Falcon. Its Noir incarnate and one of the earliest examples that set the direction for the whole genre.
I really want to get immersed in the "hard-boiled detective noir" genre/aesthetic, the ones that fully look like the amalgam in our heads of that description, with all the tropes and cliches, not "they're noir at heart but with a different look". I really don't care if they're the "best" films of their genre or not, I want to be knee deep in the pulp. I want battered fedoras, late night coffee and cigarettes, seedy bars and diners from a time where the darkness and grunge was artistic and full of gravitas, not a modern hyperrealistic inspection of our times.
>>201663783Scarlet StreetThe KillersOut of the PastKiss of DeathDetour, but watch it absolute last, it's simultaneosly peak of the genre, its barebones deconstruction and its metamorphosis into something greater
>>201663783not a movie but Red Harvest
>>201656840Fritz Lang. He set the base for it in Germany and later fully formed the genre in America:MFuryYou Only Live OnceMinistry of FearThe Woman in the WindowScarlet StreetThe Blue GardeniaThe Big HeatHuman DesireWhile the City Sleeps
