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Captain, I have a Priority 1 signal from Starfleet:
There's an abnormally high probability of Star Trek threads in this sector.
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season 1 was so better
s2 just feels like fan service
this is not up for discussion. thank you.
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>>201707627
WRONG FUCKING PIC
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bumping a failed /trek/ thread
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>>201708632
For Sovngarde!
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I haven't watched Enterprise yet but I wanna bang Hoshi
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>>201707627
Too late! https://youtu.be/ZBMwVHfHvI8
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>>201710616
You should, and you should.
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>>201710794
Still working my way through Voyager
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>>201710406
Pie, enormous, hot
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>>201710818
I did that a couple of months back. Where are you up to? Pic previously related.
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>>201710848
The Thaw, S2E23
I've got a long way to go
The episode quality lately doesn't help
At least soon I get to watch Tuvix die
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>>201710902
Ah, the nightmare clown. Good times.

A lot of decent episodes ahead. Also a lot of shit to be honest. Another whole season until Neelix is freed from the Kes curse.
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>>201707262
I really wish this bitch would lighten up sometimes. Every episode is plagued with her incessant self righteous bitching and whining.
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>>201707659
Waltke´s promotion might had some downsides.
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Would I like VOY and Enterprise if I liked TNG and DS9? Is it as good? Or should I just rewatch Stargate SG1 and Atlantis instead?
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>>201711054
She's cute when she's angry though
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>>201711054
It pays off by the end
She's one of my favourite DS9 characters even if she makes some extremely questionable decisions here and there
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I might die this time guys. I’ve got a bad feeling. Serving with you has been something else
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Getting drunk in the blanket fort and starting up a TNG rewatch
I sometimes dislike how much people shit on TNG Season 1 because I think theres a few underrated/overhated episodes but holy fuck most of it is pure sloppa isn’t it.
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what's your favourite TNG episode?
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>>201711345
That whole situation looks comfy as fuck my friend. I'm a poor uni student so im watching D29 on a plug-in DVD connected to my laptop.
Season 1 has two Q episodes so thats enough to keep me happy. Mon Capitan!
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>>201711140
I rrally liked VOY. It has some absolutely hilarious shit episodes but it’s mostly fun. The entire thing is itself a full series arc of ‘getting home’ (which i separate from TNG which is rather just a premise of ‘explore’), and that makes it vulnerable to more plot holes and wishywashy logic but I dont really care cause I like star trek
Is it as good as TNG? No. But TNG is some of the best TV ever made imo, not only for its time but even (or maybe especially) now considering the anount of shit thats on offer. So it doesnt need to be ‘as good’ to still be excellent and I dont think you should skip VOY for that reason. Also love stargate but I’d take a VOY first watch over an SG1 rewatch any day of the week
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>>201711386
It’s such a shame that the Q actor cane out kinda resenting star trek because it became his most well known role but he never made big money from it because he wasnt a main character only a guest
I suppose when its just a side job it must kinda sting watching other profit while you still get recognised in public as Q and not your other exploits
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>>201711357
idk whats your fave VOY episode
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>>201711416
The whole "I hate that role in retrospect" thing is so bizarre to me. Like these guys build a fan cult following because they're so good but then it turns out De Lancie hated being Q. Same with Data, he came out saying it was just a job and that he was never a Star Trek fan. They admit their hearts weren't really in it but when you watch it it seems like they're loving it.
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>>201711503
>when you watch it it seems like they're loving it.
I mean that's what acting is, retard
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>>201711503
You can be caught up in the moment but you can't feed your family on being caught up in the moment
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>>201711503
yeah I mean, it is acting but I also totally get it
Like finding out the mythbusters guys hated each other and were rarely ever in a room alone together
I just wish theyd keep their mouths shit about it personally, even if its just acting and you did hate it i think theres some duty to not say so
I really respect marge simpsons VA for her take on it but unfortunately itll never be common because popularity breeds success more than talent in acting
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>>201711396
>No. But TNG is some of the best TV ever made imo, not only for its time but even (or maybe especially) now considering the anount of shit thats on offer.
thats not saying much since the TV on offer for the past 15 years has been shit. But here im pretty sure TNG ranks as one of the best series ever made.
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>>201711396
>>201711614
TOS is better
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>>201711550
yeah its weird to find out actors really hated their co stars in your favorite kino. Ultimately they're bound by a contract and the need to make a living but chemistry is something thats hard to fabricate. It's the mark of really good acting.
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>>201711357
Dunno if I'd call it the best, but if I had to pick the most rewatchable, I might go with Cause And Effect (ironically, given all the repetition). Or maybe Tapestry.
>>201711499
Hmm. Year of Hell might be the obvious choice. Other contenders would include Meld (love me Suder) and Mortal Coil (wherein a hedgehog man gives me feels).
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>>201711659
It was interesting finding out bashirs actor hated the genetic modification back story
He said he purposefully took the acting less seriously in those episodes because he had been promsied they wouldnt try to make him a data and spock clone to pander but thats exactly what the story tried to do, so he protested by trying ti act poorly to spite them and make them stop doing those episodes
That showed he really cared about his character and the direction it was being taken in at least, even if he disagreed overall (personally I agree with him so I’m biased)
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>>201711054
>When I was in the Maquis...
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>>201711345
That had better be a real dog motherfucker...
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>>201711736
Interesting. They keep shitting on him for fucking up all the other actor's director gigs. Maybe this is why?
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>>201711736
I kinda liked the end result, like when he learns Tongo he seems so blase and casual about it it seems perfectly Bashir, he's still got that swagger and he's just incorporated not having to pretend anymore right into it
So even if it was a bad character choice I think the actor salvaged it in a way that it turns out alright anyway
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TOS > TNG > DS9
Voyager has its moments. Everything else is shit. This is the objectively correct opinion
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>>201711054
idk why i liked kira i should have hated her but i just liked her
i think she complemented well/was conplemented well by the other officers
miles, odo and sisko were such straight shooters and more logical in their ideology that it tempered her sanctimonious bitching
also dukat was so fucking likeable despite being so obviously bad that it almost made me accept kiras bitchcing because i felt guilty for loving dukat episodes (i miss when villains could just be charismatic and charming and let their actions be the villainous part of them without verbose exposition in dialogue about how evil they are every 4 seconds like modern TV)
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>>201711054
TCD
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>>201711887
>TNG>DS9>TOS>VOY
>Kirk>Sisko*>Picard>Janeway
>Riker>Spock>Chakotay>Kira*
*not technically captain or first officer
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>>201712009
I love TNG, but I swear I feel like a lot of the time I’m just getting irked by Picard moreso than not. I never felt that with Kirk. TNG has, overall, a better group than TOS, but when you get sick of the main character being pompous and annoying it can override it
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>>201712009
Sisko does make captain by the end of season 3 and I'm pretty sure Kira is considered his first officer for the purposes of crewing the Defiant, if not DS9 itself
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>>201711898
I think I like Kira because she's cute but her whining gets old sometimes and I like when Sisko puts her in her place.
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>>201711054
The main and most important bajoran charasteristic is that they cope and seethe.
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>>201712627
>>201711898
>>201711054
Bajorans come across to me as being extremely jewish for some reason
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>>201712747
The holocaust survivors with the funny noses remind you of Jews? Don't be crazy, anon
The real Jews are the Founders
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>>201711499
Season 3, Episode 14 - "Alter Ego".

Marayna had the best job I've ever seen of any Trek series.
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>>201712747
shapeshifters are the jews
bajorans are indians (similar to jews but different)
ferengi are americans (also very similar but different)
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>>201713224
Ferengi are literally meant to be jews
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I love this MF and the Laurel and Hardy dynamic between him and Odo is the best. Amazing how a character who's supposed to be so materialistic has so much soul.
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>>201713979
I have a theory that Ferengi are actually based on whatever the immigrant population was in LA at the time. When first conceived in the 80s it was based on Iranians - the shady fly by night enterprises, penchant for fancy peacock outfits, massive misogyny.
>carpet store going OUT OF BUSINESS FOREVER sale for the sixth month in a row
By deep space nine, the immigrant community at the time was flush with Ethiopian, and it shows in the family dynamic episodes and in the use of Negus as a title
>sluggo cola is te'j pass it on
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Nimoy appreciation post. He was so hot, dear lord... <3 <3
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is this the geezer safespace echochamber for circlejerking about old crap trek?
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>>201711499
NEMESIS FUCKING SHITS
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>>201712009
>*not technically captain or first officer
you're being pedantic, Kira is the first officer on the station from the pilot
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>>201715419
Lower Decks was found dead in squalid conditions and a soiled nappy!
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>>201715419
Yes. Tell me how Gul Dukat was secretly based, using approved language and opinions.
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>>201715813
are you a /who/ refugee
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In Trek News, this is SDCC weekend, and Trek is beaming in. Dozens of Trek related panels, with the big Hall H Paramount program on Saturday:

> 1:45PM-3:15PM: Star Trek Returns to Hall H – Star Trek: Strange New Worlds with cast members Anson Mount, Rebecca Romijn and Ethan Peck, alongside executive producers Alex Kurtzman, Akiva Goldsman and Henry Alonso Myers. Star Trek: Lower Decks with voice cast members Jack Quaid, Tawny Newsome, Noël Wells and Jerry O’Connell, along with creator and executive producer Mike McMahan and executive producer Alex Kurtzman. Star Trek: Starfleet Academy with EPs and co-showrunners Alex Kurtzman and Noga Landau. Star Trek: Section 31 will have its Hall H debut with cast members Omari Hardwick, Sam Richardson and Kacey Rohl, along with executive producer Alex Kurtzman and director Olatunde Osunsanmi. Everything is moderated by filmmaker, director and executive producer Justin Simien.

Warp me!
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>>201715884
>Justin Simien
haha semen! like cum!
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>>201715884
Mike McMahan's penis is a greenis! I hate it, I hate it!!
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>>201715762
Its a technicality added as asterix but i still included them in the running because i think it would be pedantic to exclude them from the list of captains and first officers
Youre reading too much into it if youre annoyed by such a clarification
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>>201716068
>>201715884
Tawny Newsome's redis is a mauveis!! Nur nur nur!!!
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>>201715884
pedogy excluded based
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>>201715884
Ah yes a bunch of forgettable nothing series nobody cares about because theyre literally incapable of making good content anymore
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>>201715818
Dukat is a self insert geezer that is hateful and does not embody trek values
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>>201715884
4/5 shows on this poster have been canceled.
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>>201716591
100% of geezer trek is cancelled and forgotten
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>>201715828
nur nur nur ultravioletnis, i hate it i hate it
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>>201716557
i said secretly based, not openly based my fren
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Jewish Romulans
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>>201716627
If it's forgotten, why does the NuShit keep mining for content and memberberries?
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>>201716843
because post modernism is showing how last generation was stupid
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>>201716905
Or rather... strong men create good art, and good art creates weak men, who create bad art.
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>real star trek
>ends as planned regardless of ratings
>new star trek
>cancelled due to shite ratings
geezers won
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>>201717004
>muh art
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>>201717191
>muh art
Pick up a pencil. Get a fucking skill.
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>>201717238
we have AI now gramps
kys
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>>201717342
>What's my skill?
>I'm a profesional proompter! "4K HDR, beautiful art, ArtStation trending!
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It took STD seven years to shit out a measly 65 episodes before it was cancelled; meanwhile ENT had 98 across four years
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>>201717744
>meanwhile ENT had 98 across four years
It also was considered a catastrophic flop because it didn't make it to 100 episodes.
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>>201717778
Yes but now it's an accomplishment to even make it to 20.
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>>201717492
gramps can't prompt
kys
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What colour is Aaron Waltke's penis?
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>>201717853
Well, judging by the quality of your AI slop, neither can you.
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>>201717954
it is made to make you seethe
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>>201717163

> cancelled due to shite ratings!!!

Oh no. Anyway.....
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>>201718035
>flops harder than The Ackolyte
All I see is Paramount botting the fuck out of Nielsen ratings. No real person talked about Discovery S5 online. You can fake just about everything these days but it won't change reality.
And the reality was that no one was watching so the show got abruptly canned. SNW and Starfleet Academy shite is next on the chopping block.
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So why was STD cancelled if it was such a hit? Paramount didn't even tell the production crew until after the fact.
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>>201711140
If you liked DS9 you'll love Babylon 5. Mind you the first season can be a bit rough and the CGI used through the series has aged. The story more than makes up for this mind you.

Now how would Londo and Quark interract? I could see G'kar and Kira being friends, or at the very least polite to eachother.
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>>201718254
>if it was such a hit
It wasn't. You can say many things about Paramount, but their marketing team is legendary. They're so relentless in their astroturfing and manufacturing fake success, it should be in every company's playbook. Obviously keeping this whole charade afloat requires millions which is why Paramount is the most unprofitable Hollywood company. That's also why it got purchased for pennies by Skydance.
If you go on Reddit, places like /r/startrek are just shillbots generating engagement. It's dead internet. Lower Drecks was allowed to go on for 2 seasons (they call it five seasons but we all know it's a two season fifty episode order split into five) solely based on fake internet engagement. SNW continues to go on based solely on fake internet engagement and botted Nielsen ratings. Paramount refuses to release actual streaming numbers for their shitty shows.
And if you need proof th at they're botting ratings, look at that horrible Halo show. It was a hit judged by any "professional" metric but it still got canned because the real, internal unbotted numbers were shit. People hated that fucking show.

NuTrek is a facade. All engagement is fake. And until money dries up and Kurtzman is laid off, we won't get real Star Trek back. Otherwise, we'll keep getting shows no one wants to watch that will get astroturfed into massive "successes."
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>>201718501
>engagement
geezers use metrics from the depression era, tiresome
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>>201718501
Yes, but it's still hilarious and a bit sad that STD executive producer Michelle Paradise was already working on S6 ideas when Paramount said "oh yeah, we canned that shit and just didn't tell you yet, sorry". You almost have to feel bad for all involved.
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>>201718811
meanwhile pedogy fans do what?
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>>201718811
>You almost have to feel bad for all involved
I'm good.
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>>201718889
yeah, the last couple seasons became full on female empowerment fantasy, it completely abandoned its original premise
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>>201718858
>meanwhile pedogy fans do what?
Enjoying some good Star Trek, I presume. Netflix must be really happy with its investment.
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>>201718035
how many fucking outfit changes did they have
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>>201718939
>6 reviews
kek is this the least successful thing in the star trek world
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>>201719106
>kek is this the least successful thing in the star trek world
Perfectly average for NuTrek slop.
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>>201718035
It was only the final episode that got that rating and they got it with fucking nielsen which splits everything up into little categories so everyone can look successful lol
The rest of the episodes were in the shitcan even with nielsen
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>>201719157
>critics higher than audience
>extremely low number of reviews
>cancelled by original broadcaster
>picked up by streaming service with too much money
Kek thats some redflags alright
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>>201719297
>picked up by streaming service with too much money
Rest assured, no one wants Lower Drecks. But what I find interesting is that in two weeks, Prodigy S2 got more user reviews than Lower Drecks S4 did since it had aired last year.
Make of that whatever you will, but I have reasons to believe that Lower Drecks' "fanbase" is comprised mostly of bots.
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>>201719395
>no one wants Lower Drecks
the other way around faggot, pedogy was only booted out P+ for being shitty
>picked out
trash collector flix
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>>201719204

> It was only the final episode that got that rating and they got it with fucking nielsen which splits everything up into little categories so everyone can look successful lol The rest of the episodes were in the shitcan even with nielsen!!!!

Why do you continue to lie, especially when it's so easy to catch you?
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>>201719451
>the other way around
Jack Quaid said five months ago that Lower Drecks is looking for a new home (https://collider.com/star-trek-lower-decks-new-streamer-search), and so far, it failed miserably because no one wants it. Prodigy got picked up by Netflix one month after the cancellation.
Get outta here. After Velma, no streaming service is going to invest in lesbian adult animated sitcoms based on dying IPs.
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>>201707262
What and with who are the Ferengi trading?
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>>201719527
Doesn't matter because it's all botted ratings. Google Trends is the only reliable metric of popularity and STD S5 got mogged by the utter failure that was The Ackolyte. Let that sink in.
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>>201719589
>Jack Quaid
actors are not valid source
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>>201719712
>a lead actor is not a valid source
M'kay.
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>People still calling Lower Decks a failure after five seasons.

Never change /tv/.
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>>201720105
>five seasons
It's a fifty episode order (effectively two seasons worth of content) split into five seasons. You could split twenty episodes into 10 seasons if you wanted, that doesn't mean you're successful.
Fifty episodes is actually flop territory when it comes to animation. You usually should be aiming for 100. I still remember when BoJack Horseman got canceled by Netflix prematurely, but it still made it to 80 episodes.
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>>201720105
Why was it cancelled? Cheap animation, only 10 episodes per season, it could have gone on forever
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>>201720672
>Why was it cancelled?
You already know why.
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>>201719527
So why was it cancelled?
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>>201720711
all (good) things ....
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>>201720238

> LOW had a 50 episode order!
> Also, every season of LOW is it's last!

At this point, can't even keep your lies consistent, let alone coherent.
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>>201720758
>STD
>good
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>>201720799
>Also, every season of LOW is it's last
Well, this one is. You can fuck off now.
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>>201720825
LODE 50 > PEDOGY 40
>ouch
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>>201720799
Why was it cancelled?
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>>201720850
same reason TNG
there are limited possible plots
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>>201720799
>LOW had a 50 episode order
Per publicly-available SAG-AFTRA contract information, Lower Drecks' actors signed on for three more years back in 2020 after the initial 2-year contract back in 2018. The NuTrek renewals are a farce and always have been.
https://www.sagaftra.org/contracts-industry-resources/signatory-search
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>>201720924
TNG had 178 episodes. LD will have only had 50. Did they run out of ideas that fast??
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>>201720995
>TNG had 178 episodes
because of syndication, 30% are forgettable
>>201720995
>Did they run out of ideas that fast??
yes, it was easy being creative in 1987 than 2019
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>>201720924
Well, it took TNG a lot longer to run out of ideas. Maybe it's just a skill issue.
Or... no one was watching.
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>>201721035
>30% are forgettable
Well, that's still better ratio than 100% of Lezzie Dykes episodes being forgettable.
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if TNG was so good, why did it not continue with other characters or VOY was the same standard of TNG? Maybe it's just a skill issue.
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>>201720105
I love how everyone unconsciously defends these shows based on how many of them there are or how many people supposedly watched them, and not on the basis of their actual content.
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>>201721084
>if TNG was so good, why did it not continue
But it did. It spawned several spin offs and four theatrical movies.
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>>201721118
so geezers are ... hypocrites? no way!
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>yes, it was easy being creative in 1987 than 2019
tell me youve never had a creative outlet without telling me
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>>201721155
if they ware so good why did they not continue forever?
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>>201720983

> He doesn't even understand the basics of how stanard industry contracts work. Just twists everything to fit his fantasy world.

It's just sad clown tragic.
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>>201721185
>tell me you are utopian geezer
>inb4 muh infinite combination
everything now feels it was done before, including permutations
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>>201719395
>I have reasons to believe that Lower Drecks' "fanbase" is comprised mostly of bots
My child, you can believe anything you want but it doesn't make it true.
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>>201721118
Well, first of all, to defend something you actually have to remember the content. And animated lesbian romcoms are neither memorable nor defendable.
Media nowadays is driven by spite. People don't actually enjoy watching TV or movies anymore; it's just about watching something to piss someone off.
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>>201721156
I would be if I did that too, but I don't.
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>>201721226
are you interested in carpet?
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is this one of only a dozen fans who stuck around for the end of STD
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>>201721229
t. butthurt geezer
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>Niggas arguing about how much money hollywood jews are making on their modern fandom, instead of discussing the actual content because its that fucking vapid
Sad
Anyway, is this the worst episode of VOY or the worst episode of mainline trek (aka ignoring everything after ENT)
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>>201721263
Tabriz, yes; GTFO with that Bukhara trash
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>>201721225
Whats your first language? Your chinglish is frustrating to read but isnt actually chinglish
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>>201721198
>He doesn't even understand the basics of how stanard industry contracts work
I certainly understand them more than an armchair NuTrek shill on a Mongolian basket weaving forum who will always spin facts to make his employer look good.
But it doesn't look good. Paramount is a mess. Employee morale has hit rock bottom. David Ellison barged in with his daddy and will be doing some much-needed housecleaning.
So here's a question: if Paramount is so successful why was it acquired for pennies by a much smaller tech company?
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>>201721377
>geezer get butthurt
>geezer yells ESL
typical
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>>201721351
I think "Fury" (old haggard Kes travels in time to kill everyone) is probably the worst episode, because it feels like it's being spiteful towards Jennifer Lien for no reason.
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>>201721432
Can you make a single post without buzzwords?
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>>201721351
>Niggas arguing about how much money hollywood jews are making on their modern fandom, instead of discussing the actual content because its that fucking vapid
Welcome to /trek/ during NuTrek shill hours. I don't why you keep insisting on resurrecting this dead general when organic Trek threads always are more active and more on-topic?
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>>201721457
buzzword is a buzzword
hypocrite geezer
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>>201721471
>I don't why you keep insisting on resurrecting this dead general when organic Trek threads always are more active and more on-topic?
And yet you come, like a moth to a flame. Damning. Have you considered....Not Participating™?
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>>201721448
Yeah I hated that too and I think everyone did, but Threshold is just indefensibly stupid
Still makes me angry when I get to it in rewatches
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>>201721471
>organic
>endless stale memes
dukat sucked my dick wrong, geezer cunt
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>>201721503
There’s a difference between being capable of making a single post without buzzwords and using one buzzword once but I don’t expect the buance of English to be clear to you when it isn’t your first language
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>>201721516
I enjoy dunking on NuTrek when given the rare opportunity and tearing the shills a new one with brutal truthbombs.
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>>201721567
if you are gay, yes
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>>201721567
im pretty sure that guys right and the paramount shill is just some thirdie ESL
ignore it and itll fuck off im sure
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>>201721567
>tearing the shills a new one
They've been awfully quiet since Lower Drecks got killed. Even the "Trek News" guy went AWOL for three months.
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>>201721643
as long as geezers seethe instead of circlejerking about dukat and candles.
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>>201721643
>He went AWOL for three months *cries and gnashes teeth, wails, rends beard*
Oh no! Anyway... Sometimes people just like chilling on the porch with a mint julep and a hard candy.
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>>201721697
>STD killed
>Lezzie Dykes killed
>Paramount sold for scraps
Feels good to be a geezer desu
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>>201721737
all your treasured characters have been raped and you can't forget that
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>>201721726
>Sometimes people just like chilling on the porch with a mint julep and a hard candy
And yet, here you are, posting pictures from a cancelled lesbian animated romcom only tangentially related to Star Trek. And you've been doing since 7:30.
I hope it pays well, at least.
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would you guys who also hate the new slop agree that a core problem with it (among many many total problems) is that it is all so depressing and serious now
old trek was so optimistic, a little bit sanctimonious and morally superior but it had a general optimism for humanity, eventually, underlying even the grimmest story arcs. Without that new star trek just cant feel like star trek. Picard and Discovery are just so fucking pessimistic that. Its so bad that even if all the other problems I have with the shows were fixed I’d still not really think it was star trek and would still resent it for iust being an action show falsely using the star trek name to hopefully drive views
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>>201721518
Getting mad at Threshold is silly when we live in a world where Genesis came out two years prior.

Warlord was worse than Fury.
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>>201711054
Kira a cute tho
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>>201721827
>Picard and Discovery are just so fucking pessimistic
it reflects current times, geezers failed to make the world the utopia they preach
that is why old trek is a failure, they reached utopia, but the how was vague WW3 magic.
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>>201721766
>all your treasured characters have been raped and you can't forget that
Were they? I don't watch NuTrek slop. Even if they were, why would I care? Disney can do whatever the fuck they want with Star Wars but everyone knows that only George Lucas Star Wars is the real thing, and the rest is bad expensive fanfiction.
I rewatch an episode of old Star Trek every week and every time it's just a blast.
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>>201721766
when you drop the veil like this and admit that you’re sctually just an angry little shitskin ESL that hates star trek abd wants to hurt people you really undercut yourself
we’ll never see you as anything other than that angry little indian man from now on
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>>201722006
>when you drop the veil like this
what part of "making geezers seethe" you don't get it?
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>>201722033
Well, you're not very good at it. You're just wasting your time.
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>>201721966
>I don't watch NuTrek slop.
I watched picard snd discovery for one season each. Trek felt like it deserved me giving them a chance. The only character that was raped was Data desu, they basically shat on one of the best TNG episodes which is The Measure of a Man (when they have the trial to see if data is property or a real crewmember)
Kinda links in with it being a very pessimistic world that the federation just started using androids as slaves after that episode despite the conclusion.
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>>201722068
when you attack strawman instead of talking about geezer trek I win
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>>201722119
Picard is a crybaby with mommy issues also a gay robot, raped
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>>201721351
Nutrek is devoid of any substance, that's why no one actually talks about its content
>St. Michael chases a macguffin, says the speech and cries
>Mariner says a catchphrase
>Picard mumbles
>Pike is gay. Spock is gay.
None of it is meant to leave a lasting impression, it's designed to fill out a streaming service. Watched once, then immediately forgotten about.
Meanwhile I could start a thread with "Crell Moset did nothing wrong" and not only would people recognize this 25 year old episode, it would probably have almost 300 replies. "He was just a hologram of the guy", "his research was already in the computer anyway", etc. Same for a Tuvix thread. Or an Inner Light thread. Or a Darmok thread. People remember Old Trek.
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>>201715884
How do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>201722204
TNG babies
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>>201722208
what faggot combs is doing lately?
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>>201722204
Thats true
The characters feel a lot more fleshed out and real in a lot of older content
It doesnt just apply to trek at all. Its a common criticism of the new star wars sloppa as well
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>>201721351
It was a good premise, they just tried to jam too much into a single episode. Should’ve been a two partner
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>>201722119
It's all rooted in Trump Derangement Syndrome. People like Alex Kurtzman think Trump winning in 2016 was pretty much the end of the world. Well, it was the end of their world, so to speak.
So, being hacks, they did what they do best, and infused a pre-existing IP with their brain rot. Federation now sucks because their faith in institutions was shattered when Trump was sworn in. They cannot comprehend why anyone let it happen. They cannot understand that people have wildly different beliefs than they do and they think anyone who doesn't hold the exact as beliefs as the Californian metropolitan elite is a backwards savage.

To me, Star Trek was always rooted in the Protestant work ethic and the rejection of universalism. You can even look at how the topic of abortion was handled in Star Trek. In that one episode where Troi gets impregnated by an alien, it is suggested that they terminate the pregnancy, very rightfully so. But the episode rejects that notion and instead has Troi actually let that life continue.

If you think any NuTrek writer would agree with that, you're in a rude for awakening. My current Twitter feed is flooded with that Lower Drecks writer downie spamming Kamala Harris shit.

Well, either way. My point is that you don't even have to support Trump to see how deranged Hollywood elites are.
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>>201722354
geezer things salamander is acceptable
stupid
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>>201722208
I fucking loved Weyoun so much the actor fucking nailed it with that kinda agent smith from the matrix soft spoken but totally willing to do evil things to you vibe
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>>201722204
I enjoy SNW.
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>>201722279
I’d imagine being awesome. And you my child?
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>>201722542
assumptions as always
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>>201721797
Beach vacations don't pay for themselves
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>>201722384
It’s funny dude, along with Paris turning into Jeff Goldblum in the Fly. Sounds like you just have shit taste
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>>201722208

Like this. Then you start screaming they're hostages, held at gunpoint by Somali pirates hired by Paramount+.
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>>201722204
>>201721351
You can't get any nutrek poster to tell us their thoughts on Boimler's character arc, or what they think of Burnham, or the future of Picard's kid now that he's half-Q as well as half-Borg, or wherever that went. It's only smug reaction images and "it was #49 in the top 50 most streamed shows on this day!!" shallow, vapid nonsense
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>>201722600
Holy fuck it really is just fat women with died hair isnt it hahaha
Spot on when he said lesbian fanfiction
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>>201722600
>accuses others of being geezers
>posts a long line of them
Self awareness, do you possess it?
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>>201722279
He said without sounding mad.
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>>201722592
geezer trek does canon breaking thing and is totally stupid about evoltuion
>you have bad taste

biased much gramps?
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>>201722637

> Line is obviously half male and half female,

Sad.
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>>201722651
geezery is abount being a cunt
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>>201722628
>their thoughts on Boimler's character arc
He's getting bolder but learning to loosen up and delegate. It's why he got to sit in the big chair. It's William who will stall in his mindset, when they finally clash.
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>>201722600
Wew! I counted a grand total of 150 people. That's fewer than average auditorium.
Do you just post this shit and expect people to be impressed because it looks that way if you squint really hard?
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>>201722669
>taking Voy seriously at all
I can’t even. It was always campy, goofy good fun
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>>201722706
Its 70% female and 90% obese
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>>201722758
cherrypicking is gay
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>>201722766
sign me up
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>I'll post more pics from the star trek twitter, that'll show you!!!!!
This is why no one does /trek/ generals anymore
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>>201722767
If you’d been alive at the time you’d understand little man. Voyager was unabashed camp on a dogshit network, and that was half the charm
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>>201722628
I'd tell you my thoughts on Boimler's character arc if Paramount didn't move Lower Decks off of Amazon Prime. Not subscribing to Paramount to watch it. As it is all I can say from seeing Season 3 when it came out is that they did seem to be going some places with it but then in Season 4 and 5 they might just have him suck massive dong instead of doing anything, knowing Paramount.
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>>201722747
>insert megacorp propaganda into a Star Trek show
>get canceled anyway
Not a good look!
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>>201722791
Kek now we know who’s pushing the buttons behind the scenes aye
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>>201722804
>giving passes for arbitrary criteria
defintion of hypocrisy
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>>201722747
thanks spackGPT
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>>201722874
you're welcome, faggot. Stay in school. Don't do drugs. Say your prayers.
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>>201722794
Death throes of a dead franchise propped by a dying megacorp. Their huge SDCC banner is made up mostly of canceled shows but Paramount just refuses to go away.
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What's the cope for how NuTrek has no meaningful pop cultural presence?
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>>201722794
>This is why no one does /trek/ generals anymore
he said, while Participating
As for me, I shan't
>closes tab
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>>201722849
Expressing an opinion or a preference is hypocritical now? You just sound like a retard
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>>201722903
>What's the cope for how NuTrek has no meaningful pop cultural presence?
It's irrelevant. Bots are creating engagement metrics that we can show investors.
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>>201722920
same opinions are not consistent about nutrek, so yes, geezers are cunts and there is the reason geezers failed to make maga
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>>201722756
>Wew! I counted a grand total of 150 people.That's fewer than average auditorium.Do you just post this shit and expect people to be impressed because it looks that way if you squint really hard!!!!

Did you consider that the theather seats more people than are in that section line at that moment? No, of course you didn't.

BTW 1300 seat capacity AIR.

Also, all of them chanting "Lower Deckss! Lower Decks!"
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>>201722957
I'm trans, btw. So goodbye world.
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>>201722975
>Also, all of them chanting "Lower Deckss! Lower Decks!"
The depravity of those Somalian pirates.
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>>201722975
>Did you consider that the theather seats more people than are in that section line at that moment? No, of course you didn't.
Well, you showed me a video that has exactly 156 people in it and told me to be impressed. Why would I consider anything else?
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>>201722973
There’s a difference between being earnestly campy and so far up your own ass you can’t see daylight
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>>201723054
more than the line for faggot combs signature
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Wait is the ESL new slop shill just a lefty mad at real star trek because he thinks its for old boomers who sre right wing so thats why he spends 18 hours a day seething?
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>>201723101
You still sound mad.
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>>201723099
>There’s a difference
no there isn't, hypocrite, change yourself
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>>201723024
>>201722975

THAT'S RIGHT! SING ALONG EVERYONE!

Lower Decks is here for you
It's your favorite Star Trek crew
They're so quirky, cool and fun
It's the best cartoon in town
Trek's no longer just for nerds
Join Paramount+ with your friends
We have Mariner, Boimler too
Tendi is trans and so will be you

We will breach final frontier
By accepting folks who's queer
Strong black female is our lead
Dabbing on white boys indeed
Kurtzman's vision guides us now
Be inclusive and have fun
We're best Star Trek, through and through
Tendi is trans and so will be you

NuTrek shows are here to stay
Support all who's black or gay
Eat your bugs and drink your söy
Be a good, obedient goy
Buy subscription and consume
Don't use words "tranny" or "troon"
CBS tells you what to do
Tendi is trans...

Tendi is trans...

Tendi is trans...

Tendi is trans and so will be you!


https://vocaroo.com/16xoKwi3KGQJ
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>>201723101
>faggot combs!!!!
he said, calmly
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>>201723135
Nah, I’m good
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>>201722975
>150 seats filled out of 1300
christ what have they done to this franchise
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>>201723162
god i hated this storyline and i actually like the actors involved
Only good thing about it is that it lead to this moment that still makes me giggle
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>>201723296
I loved the savants
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>>201723024

He's going to have another Class 5 Melty on Saturday when the new Lower Decks S05 trailer premiers.
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>>201723296
For me it was his dad being Babu Bhatt, but yeah I found Julian to be generally obnoxious
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>>201723314
Indidnt mind them just hated the hurr durr julian is genetically modified and amazing at everything
especially how it effectively means that all his activities/competitions/games with the chief were fake because he could have just won any game with ease
Anyone thats ever had to tone themselves down while playing with aa kid or something knows its no fun and you cant just make yourself worse, you basically have to choose whether to let the kid win or beat them
Thats what he must have been doing, and thats dumb.

Wish theyd have just had the savants be in it some other way. I loved the chief and the docs escapades
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>>201723138
https://suno.com/song/75743421-daa6-477b-a433-4c7f293fbaf0
SHAKE IT UP
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>>201723391
>Lower Decks S05 trailer
I wonder if they'll have more than 500 people watch it this time. Guess they can't even be bothered to bot views anymore. But then again, why even bother for a canceled flop?
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>>201711049
Don't shit on my schizo-fu
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>>201711499
The one with the fear based clown. Any episode where Janeway genocides anyone is a close second.
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>>201723663
>500 people!!!!

Why must you always lie? And frankly, with 81 million paid subscribers, Trekies watch LOW on Paramount+ in HD.
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If 81 million people watch LD, then why was it cancelled?
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>>201715909
k
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k
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>>201723924
Solidarity with based Waltke. Bros ride 4 lyf.
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>>201723887
>800 viewers per day
What a hit!
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>>201718035
Discovery was the first trek I saw. After seeing some TOS, all of VOY, TNG and DS9 I gotta say Discovery is shit
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>>201723985
You're not the first person to form this opinion, either
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>>201723510
Sorry, I'm more old-fashioned!
https://vocaroo.com/19XhLojzvRam
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>>201724328
I'm terrified of AI. This is way too good.
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>>201723138
>https://vocaroo.com/16xoKwi3KGQJ
Holy fuck
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>>201724328
this is some old timey faggoty shit ngl desufam
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>>201725486
cope and seethe
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Why did Turkish Star Trek mash together three episodes ?
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Star Trek ended in 2005. I’d also accept 1982. Anything after 2005 is Star Trek in name only.
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>>201727928
names are all that matter
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im going where my heart will take me
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>>201722918
Now, now, don't even think about leaving. I'm not going to let you go, not after all this.
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>>201729934
https://youtu.be/d-2KRSezHb0?si=OlvxormQ17SldefX
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>>201723705
> I pointed out that the producers of Star Trek has no reason to depict the people in the setting who never leave their holodecks.

No one asked "Why isn't there a show about some guy stuck in a holodeck". That's just some weird argument you made up for no reason. You're just not very smart.
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>>201731500
>Why isn't there a show about some guy stuck in a holodeck"
A Section 31 flavored version of The Prisoner would be absolute purest quineaux and nothing you faggots could say to the contrary will sway me
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>>201732207
Like imagine being trapped in fair haven until you break
you escape and then you wake up and you're back in fair haven
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>>201732471
Why WAS Six afraid of Seven?
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Remember when Star Trek influenced billions? When Star Wars did? How different society is now because?
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>>201732709
Be silent pedophile
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If resources are unlimited in Star Trek, why are there no quiverfull families?
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>>201732751
Why are you posting a picture from Babylon V in a Farscape thread?
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>>201732722
kek
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>>201711049
>the Kes curse
For such an ethereal character, Kes walks like she's got 20lb of concrete for underwear. Thud thud thud.

I swear there's nothing redeemable about her.
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>>201711826
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>>201714322
Does that include the freaky snivelling whip ferengi from their first appearance, or do you think they got a redesign between that and the "peacock" ferengi we all know and love
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>>201727763
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>>201735979
It includes the freaky snivelling whip ferengi too. Remember these guys were conceptualized during the hostage crisis. As the immigrant population proved to be loyal Americans they became more peacocky
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I had an awful night of sleep paralysis nightmares in-which Q had transformed me in Wesley Crusher and trapped me in an altered timeline. Every time I tried to get out of the bed in medbay or speak, Ensign Picard or Admiral Janeway would rush over to knock me out with a hypospray before I could get 2 words out.
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>>201711140
I liked voy at the start but it got really dull in the middle
ENT I liked the whole way through, no idea why people didnt like it
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Thanks for being there today guys I was having serious suicidal ideation
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>>201722379
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>>201711345
I like the first season just fine
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>>201741566
We got u senpai
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>>201736355
Vreenak would make a good detective
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>it's a "harry kim gets beaten/abducted/tortured/gaslit/possessed/imprisoned/converted into pure energy/literally fucking dies" episode
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im 30 today
episodes for this feel?
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>>201748369
Garrett?
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>>201748369
Half a Life
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I'm afraid to go to sleep. I don't want Miles to hit me again.
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bump
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>>201718035
if youre logical about the clickbait, since no one but themselves know their actual numbers, discovery being only top 10 on their own streaming service as a literal flagship show is insane. literally insane. that statement, if youre not a braindead moron, is actually the worst thing they could say.
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>>201722279
I saw him on Joe Bob talking about Re-Animator during covid iirc.
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>>201721189
because it started to suck, people openly say that. the tng movies sucked and episodes in the later season sucked so bad its insane to think its the same show. the later shows also started to be objectively worse and only voyager came close to sucking and then tethering back with some good episoded here and there, but overall not worth it.
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>>201750586
and if you read the article it was only the finale and they had only been top 10 with 4 other episodes
as a 'flagship' show lmao
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>>201750734
this question is unironically like saying
>if [elite sportsman] was so good why did he retire!
>see my cousin that plays handicapped basketball with woody Harrelson is better than michael jordan
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>>201721189
>final episode is literally called "all good things"
are you retarded? be honest now
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>Sisko and Dukat road trip episode
holy kino
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>>201750811
I thought we retired “retarded” and “kys”? Three years of correction wasn’t sufficient for you? You need look no further than a mirror for a learning disability



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