Silvermommy EditionList of leaks for S02E08:>Alicent turns against Aemond after he tries to make Helaena go to warhttps://streamable.com/o8fgk7 >Aemond & Helaena argument, she spoils the plothttps://streamable.com/1bfvgf>Daemon's Weirwood vision of GOThttps://streamable.com/4esd6f >Alicent defects to Rhaenyra's side and meets herhttps://streamable.com/xuep7r >Jace seething at Ulfhttps://streamable.com/d6wob2 >Awkward dinner with Blacks & Dragonseedshttps://streamable.com/h1hw06 >Aegon humiliation ritualhttps://streamable.com/5qieob >Ending montagehttps://streamable.com/cei5vt prev >>201966080
WHY IS SHE SO FUCKABLE
ULF ULF ULF
Is there anything they can do to salvage S3
>>201971300Nope. Just nuke it and start over.
>>201971300Stop toying with smearing the Blackwoods and give us Bloody Ben and Black Aly and Robb Rivers
>>201971005There do not need to be multiple.threads about this dyke garbage.
King Jacaerys Targaryen First of His Name
This wouldn't have happened with him
>>201971444gods i miss him
>>201971005This show is terrible
>Greens and Blacks spent 7 episodes stressing out and dying>Daemon does nothing but trip on shrooms and fuck shit up for 7 episodes>all his problems are magically patched together by a 14yo kid he barely met in the last momentHallucinating is the path to victory.
Bump for later
So just to be clear the full episode hasn't been leaked, only clips
>>201971005Why was this season so lack luster compared to season 1? Now we wait for 2 more years
>Aegon said that Sunfyre is deadSunfyre bros then who eats Rhaenyra?
>>201971005Who is the dragon in the ending montage (with Rhaena)?Cannibal?
Miss me? I could have saved this season.
Blackwoodcels utterly btfo'd by Brackenchads
>>201971444This all happened because of him desu
>>201972856Rhaenyra lived, bitch
>>201971005>Alicent Betrays her own sonsFuck Alicent that bitch. For those that don’t know, in the leaked scene she tells Rhaenyra that Aemond is leaving Kings landing, and that she will make the guards throw down their swords and open the gates.The writers have absolutely butchered her as a character. Disgusting.
>>201971005Why does Sheepstealer looks so big?
>>201972856They're gonna rewrite it into an absolute Rhaenyra victory
>>201972856Alicent in the epilogue
>>201972861Halaemondbros...it could have been so much better with him at the wheels
>>201972861Please come back.
>>201972623My guess beyond just generally shit writers. HBO told them they need to spin this out into at least 4 seasons and there's nowhere near enough material for that. Also they seem set as having the story revolving around Alicent and Rhaenyras relationship which while that works in s1 is pants on head retarded this far into a fratricidal civil war.
I can't believe I actually feel bad for GRRM now. Imagine seeing your creation desecrated and butchered like this.
>>201972861>fired the only chad in the writing room>show turned to shithuh, who would have thought?
I just woke up and didnt read this threadIs the whole episode available or have just some scenes leaked?
Why did everyone forget about Jaehaera?
>>201972690I bet next seasons will just be distance shots of the Hightower-Reach army and continue with retarded small council reports of Daeron. >did we mention there is another son DAERON for the 10th time! >Can we see him?>Ummm no I hate these writers so goddam much.
>>201972913About 30 minutes
>>201972918I will never forget about Jaehaera.
>>201972856Aegon will claim the Cannibal.
>>201972927Thank you
>>201971005Lol Cregan can't act lol they cut Jace in the North because he was such a bad actor hehe
>>201972918Jaehaara? Whatever happened there?
>>201972918Even Helaena dgaf.
>>201972940he doesn't have the balls to tame Cannibal...get it?
>>201972913some anon posted this in the other threadall the leaked clipshttps://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1-LlOq5lcbq1XwQYlQuoK9jWbKk7TSGMy
>>201972904Bullshit. We barely have any interactions within families that don't serve the plot and had a bunch of retarded show-only padding instead. We could have had Daeron's sideplot in the Reach. Northern unrest. Vale succession conflicts. Or introduce minor but relevant in future characters like Unwin at least. What we get is a season of utter useless filler instead.
>>201972944I'm glad desu. I'm so fucking sick of the North and muh Starks. Give us the Reach or the Stormlands please.
>>201972954Based, she only cares about her newborn Maelor because Aemond is gonna be the father
>>201972948>"Whatever happened there? Whatever happened there!?!">"Oh, the child murder."
Helaena makes no sense. So she will stay in Kl and then what?
>>201972883The leak of a final scene of HOTD
>>201972973Show is in the bin. Writing was on the wall but I had some hope. We're seriously at the point of "Catch phrases" and more callbacks to the original series. This show doesn't have its own legs.
>>201972999Waiting for Jace to rescue and claim her
>>201972989Absolutely delusional.
>>201971005Lmao you can pretty much skip the last 4 episodes of this season and then watch that ending montage and you would not have missed much.How did they turn this show into a dumpster fire so fast? They need to fire someone for this, its out of control.
>>201973000Why tf does this turn me on...
>>201972989He should rape Helaena and kill Alicent.
>>201973000wow i cant believe this happened
>>201971300It's probably too late but they could actually try to make the characters interesting
>>201972999She dies triggering a riot. No doubt it will all be a misunderstanding and nothing to do with Rhaenyra but she gets the blame.
>>201973032Nah. More Rhaenimysaricent scenes instead.
>>201971300Realise that just because the actors are paid more you don't need Alicent and Daemon sucking up screentime in every episode
>>201973005But Jace is gay. He is in love with Cregan.
The Red Kraken approaches.
>>201973024If they re-hire Sapochnik then this could still happen
>>201972989Jace is the fatherHelaena will have a beautiful strong looking child
>>201973051fuck off, faggot cunt.
Utter trash. What a disaster. It took D&D to reach season 5 to fuck up the story so badly, these mongrels only needed two.
>>201972999I can see her suicide being a reference to Tommen's.
>>201973034But how? Since she is not mad, has clear visions of the future and can communicate them well.
The show would be better off if they killed Alicent at the start of season 3. There is nothing to this character, she steals at least 10 minutes of screentime of every episode, time that could have been used to develop characters like Aemond, Helaena, Jace, Baela, Rhaena, Corlys and his bastards.
Where is the full episode? How has nobody uploaded it yet.
>Burst...like a sausageWho writes this shit.
>>201973068it could be...the twins probably Aemond's and Maelor were conceived by Jace after the Blacks take over KL
>>201971005>Alicent defects to Rhaenyra's side and meets herfucking bullshit, but i guess this will give her something to do when the blacks get KL
I want to believe Sunfyre is still alive to eat Rhaenyra but the show dropped Nettles so literally anything is on the table to be changed.I can’t believe I got tricked into watching another terrible GOT show.
>>201973085So instead of helping Aemond she just jumps?
>>201973103Mentally ill
>>201973102??? what's wrong with that? the only based thing about the leaks
>>201973086Daemon is going to push her or something
>Jace faked his death in the gullet then lived happily ever after in the north with his wife Sara
What did they mean by this?
>Entire season is a blueball build up after they rushed season 1 under the premise that was the build up season>More forced link with GOT that everyone hates, instead of treating the war as it's own arch>Daemon turned from dangerous upredictable wild card into a docile cuck of Rhaenyra, killing all the fun of their break up. And all was needed were a couple of random visions (that he called "bullshit" not even a season ago)>Alicent may be the worst character in the entire GOT saga. A incostant boring, useless bitch that start a war and then tries to sold 3/4 of his childrens out of fear>Rhaenyra's mistakes and downfall will not be caused by her being a vicious idiot, but because she star obsessing with a prophecy that was nowhere to be saw in the original canon>The greens are pretty much a second tought now. They imploded and they are now splitted into different weak subfactions (Hightowers/Daeron, Aemond/Cole, Aegon)>Blacks have pretty much won the war, but somehow plot-inducted stupidity will drag the war for two more seaons>Aegon is selectively build up to be as destroyed as a character as possible: this include at the same time devastating lore changes (Sunfyre dead, no Maleor) mixed with point-on-point canon stuff handpicked to make him weak and pathetic (the rape, the fact he's not impotent)>The entire Daemon/Aemond decable dosent make sense now that they both think they are destined to die there>Aemond Whent can now unironically happens, as it seems both Alys and Haelaena thin Daemon (Jon/Dany ancestor) and Aemond (Staks ancestor) are critical for the prophecy>Overall everyone is stripped of their personal agencies and mistakes because "its all predestined, your choices wont matter lmao"All we need now is in season 3 Bran talking from the Harrenhall weirwood to Mysaria mentioning how her rape was beautiful to make HOTD truly a worthy prequel of (season 5-8) GOT
>>201971005the entire episode leaked ?Link ?
>Could've focussed on Jace's negotiations in the Vale and North>Could've introduced Daeron and the Reach gang>Could've introduced The Lads (if they hadn't cut them)>Could've included scenes for Nettles, Trystane and Gaemon along with the other dragonseeds>Could've shown Alicent's relationship with Cole becoming romantic on screen>Could've shown Jace and Baela's relationship developing at allInstead we got Alicent doing nothing all season, Mysaria complaining, some random serving girl and a Cheese's dog. Did you rike it?
>>201973102Sara Hess
>>201973086Daemon and his murder cloak again?
>>201973127>Sarayou mean Helaena
>>201972940>can't fully control Cannibal because muh dragons control us>Cannibal accidentally eats Rhaenyra
>>201973092Shut the fuck up already, there is no full episode, there are only the tiktok clips which make up roughly half of the episode.
>>201973109If you think Rhaenyra is going to die you haven't been paying attention
>>201973139Her hatred of the male genitalia knows no bounds
>>201973109I doubt they will change this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i9EyFwh09U
>>201973138>>Could've shown Alicent's relationship with Cole becoming romantic on screenkys, shipper.
>>201973126No, he is the good guy now.
>>201973129I fucking hate this gay targ whitewashing with the white walkers.Condell is justifying everything awful the targs do because “muh prophecy”
>>201973086Because it's predestined. She confirmed that her visions of the future are the kind you can't change, so everything will happen because the script says so.Answer #2 that I just came up with: Aemond will turn her into weirwood paste to get his own visions to match Daemon.
>>201973149>there is no full episodethen why everyone is doomposting like the whole episode is bad???
In order to make the story good they need to completely diverge from the book post Rhaenys death
>>201973178ptsd
>>201973176>Aemond will turn her into weirwood paste to get his own visions to match Daemon.Didn't expect a reincarnation of the Jojenpaste theory in 2024
>>201973178Do you need to see a full turd to know it's shit?e
>>201973102We have expended quips. Now we applaud references made to ten year old quips. All the normies will piss and shit themselves with laughter when they make the Ramsay/Theon connection.
>>201973132Oh, i forgot>First they cut Nettles and give her arc to Rhaena>But you can tell they dont event have the balls to go full with their own decision: so they end her plot in a cliffhager, so if they see the fans hated it they can someone shoehorn Nettles way to late in the storyArrogant AND cowards producers. A incredible combo
>>201973149Womp womp, someone has it and only leaked half, it's only natural to ask for more that isn't in a dog quality.
>>201973174I hate it because we know how it ends. There is zero tension when we know that the Others never got past Winterfell and the Long Night didn't even last a week. And it ended because some English chav knifed someone, which happens everyday in London anyway.
>>201973162If they're gonna include it anyway I'd rather it be part of a plot than just randomly shown for shock value
>>201973178The rest of the episode is probably Cole/Gwayne scenes on their way *somewhere*, Tyland scenes with the troon Triarchy pirate, and more scenes with Rhaenyra, Alicent and Daemon
>>201973102>>201973206that wasn't written or performed as a joke
>>201973149>>201973178The ending scene was leaked and aside Otto's (it's unclear who captured him) everything else of important was among the other leaked scene. It's a shit episode
>>201973154They will probably give Rhaenyra Daemon's proposed ending. She runs off with her lesbian lover to live a peaceful life in Essos. They foreshadowed this in S1.
>>201973205have you ever considered that those leaked clips could be out of context and that's why they look bad? Have you ever considered that??
>>201973178Because the leaked scenes are the key scenes. The rest is filler.
>no cannibalI swear to god if I have to wait 4 years to see Daemon ride north to 3ER cave just for a glimpse of a cgi dragon with green fire
>>201973176So why is she mad at Aemond then?
>>201973234Out of context of what? The rest of the story?
I just don’t get how you can be like one of the last of your people who have this ancient bond to a bloodline of dragons that you and all your close family inherit and it’s even quasi-psychic and the dragons (apparently) care or love you, and you’re so cavalier with their lives, especially knowing it could all go away so easily.I get that they’re unstable/aggressive and the dance is meant to be them pushed to all out conflict, but like really? fuck that.I’d be safeguarding that shit. take breeding stock to some far off island and pamper them.dragons so loyal to their riders, you don’t throw that away. I’d protect them all.
>>201973172Oh right. So it's going to be this random nobody from her council that keeps pestering her to actually do something for once.
>>201973204This made me realise that Conhess are just slapping random theories to the script to see if they stick.
>>201973209The leaker was on TikTok and got taken down late last night, so you might get more today. Or HBO security woke up after their nap and took them out.
>>201973178Like 30-40 minutes of it has leaked
>>201973147>NO CANNIBAL NO
Beesbury chads what's our status?
>>201973208They already proved their cowardice when they cut Kermit in favour of Oscar.
>>201973247hubris
>Aegon killed her, or rather his dragon, it ate her, what’s left of her is buried beneath the crypts lolHow are they going to spin this showfags?
>>201973262Buzzin'
>>201973247>I’d be safeguarding that shit. take breeding stock to some far off island and pamper them.dragons so loyal to their riders, you don’t throw that away. I’d protect them all.Anon that's exactly what they do with the Dragon Pit and Dragonstone. The dance is just explaining how they died.
>>201973249Might be Jace before he dies fulfilling his Hess destined path to chudhood
>>201971005>season finale is shit tolmao
>>201973256link ? it's more than what is on streamable
>>201973233It's what i predict aswell. Half the season is probably going to be about her deciding with whom she runs away, Mysaria or Alicent?
>>201973262>>201973272>Lymans son is killed by the Targaryen king>WE ARE THE MOST LOYAL HOUSE IN ALL OF THE KINGDOMS, WE ARE A MINOR HOUSE BUT WE WILL GO TO WAR WITH THE HIGHTOWERS WITH ZERO SUPPORT NEAR OLDTOWNDumbest shit ever.
>AHHH I FORGOT MY SEATBELT NEPHEW LOOK OUT!!!
>>201973271Maybe they'll have Aegon claim a new dragon. Cannibal or so.
i got ten bucks with a friend that sunfyre is alive and Rhaenyras death will still mostly be death by Sunfyre/Aegon
>>201973254Cheers mate, let's hope it'll come out soon.
>>201973000Sansa nooooo
>>201973275MAGA Jace has the best redemption arc. Somewhere in the afterlife Vaemond is smiling proudly.
>>201973271Literally just ignore it.
>>201973271It's a misunderstanding, no one has actually seen her remains. When they uncover her, she's actually half mumified, like a saint.
>>201973291based
>>201973271Aegon killed Helaena instead.
>>201973291>WITH ZERO SUPPORTthink Alt Shift X said that in the books the Bee-chads have some allies
>>201972862Based
>>201973313May they drink their wine in the afterlife, they were too good for this world.
>>201973294and do what? he can't even pee properly at this moment, having a dragon won't make him cool. Face it. aegon is finished
>>201973273nah, the dragonpit is for convenience and they constantly have lax security on dragonstone. the fact they mobilized them and threw them against eachother so easily is what I’m referring to.rationally they’d have severe taboos with dragon vs dragon violence and several contingency plans to make sure they couldn’t lose their dragons all in one generation.but mostly to me is the blaise attitude they have with throwing their dragons against eachother, like they don’t have any sentimentality or attachment.
BRING BACK LUKE I WILL NOT WATCH UNTIL THEY BRING BACK LUKE
>>201973154They foreshadowed it in S1 plus the obsession with "death by dragonfire" = "a dragonrider's death" = cool
>>201973299bad changes made aside, they still haven't really changed anyone's death in the show from the source material right?
>>201973293>Nephew, these women told us it's our destinity to fight and die in this place>They are women, so they must be always right. It's futile to resist, lets do this!>Hai hai, Ojii-san...
>>201973323then Jace will poison him as revenge for killing his crush
>>201973337he is dead. let go.
>>201973271Why would they care? Daemon's future vision made it clear they're not going by show-canon, and they're certainly swerving off of book-canon now.
>>201973337Tbf at this rate they might just end up canonizing the smallfolk's theory that he got amnesia and is living somewhere as a humble fisherman.
>>201973299It still won't be the same and they will remove his super awesome line. I knew it was cowardly feminist slop the moment they removed Borrors Baratheon straight up naming Rhaenyra a bitch.
>>201973154they already foreshadowed her death in season 1>would you like to know your death child (blind fortune teller says to her">cut to wooden dragon head spewing fire
>>201973271It's a misunderstanding, Aegon tries to surrender the throne to her but can't control Sunfyre (it's a wight zombie or something, idk) and it eats Rhaenyra to prevent the prophecy or something. It doesn't have to make sense because they writers are not gonna think it through anyway.
>>201973354Isn't that the plot of "Meet the Spartans" ?
>>201973325It's dumb in the books too, they never mention Lymans son in the show. There's no way a tiny house like Beesbury would rise up because "OUR LORD IS A PRISONER!! I'M GOING INSANE" to fight loyally on the side of the house who executed their heir. >>201973336>nah, the dragonpit is for convenience and they constantly have lax security on dragonstoneThe dragons are security and in the books it's clearly stated an elite armored guard are the dragonkeepers. In the show they give them rags.> they’d have severe taboos with dragon vs dragon violence and several contingency plans to make sure they couldn’t lose their dragons all in one generation.They do, they don't lose all the dragons, a bunch of things happen outside their control and the eggs stop hatching.
>>201973365wasn't a bitch line just an adlib from mark addy's reading of the scene for the historys and lore extras?
>>201973356Nah he catchin' fish.
>>201973370That was in Sapochnik's season. Now it's Condall/Hess fanfictionYou cant tell Martin is not happy with their decisions and thus dedicated himself entirely to micro Dunk and Egg to salvage at least that adaptation
>>201973384No. It wasn't ad-libbed. It's book canon that's what Baratheon says
Reminder that Bran>talked to his dad in the past>was the whisper Cersei heard to look up so that he could become the raven>showed the mad king visions of white walkers to turn him insane>told Aegon V to legitimise all his children >turned Helaena mad with her visions to incite the riots of kings landing >got his own family killed to fuel the events of GoT>is telling Daemon to kill Aemond for the daggerThe entire show(s) is just Bran being a timelord trying to repair a broken time line that the white walkers and Valyrians created
>>201973337Do you Vhagar already shat him out?
Cute and canon!
>>201973372it’s absolutely happening and he’s absolutely going to be as wroth/cruel as the book says.the difference is he’ll offer some sort of mercy but she wants to go out with her pride so she incites the dragon to kill and eat her on purpose. if she chooses death by dragon that makes her look like a badass.that’s how they’ll spin it to flatter her. I’ve said this since the beginning of s1 and the further we get the more the writing confirms it to me.
>>201973356LUKE DID NOT DIE HE WAS GRAZED BY THE DRAGON'S TEETH HIS CLOTHES RIPPED OFF AND HE FELL NAKED INTO THE SEA AND HE WASHED ASHORE WHERE AN ORPHAN TEENBOY WITH BLOND HAIR AND BLUE EYES FOUND HIM UNCONSCIOUS AND NAKED AND CARRIED HIM TO HIS COTTAGE AND
>>201973396> dedicated himself entirely to micro Dunk and Egg to salvage at least that adaptationI wish he would dedicate himself to at least finishing the Dunk and Egg Novellas but he won't because George can't actually finish stories. His conclusion is always "they die at some point" but since his world is so reliant on being static justifying why nothing happens after the conclusion is hard work
>>201973398i read fire and blood like 2 months ago and could've sworn i was disappointed that the bitch line wasn't there but i'll take your word for it
>>201973378>a bunch of things happen outside their controlnah, even in the books it’s either not well explained or down to lax security still.>muh maester conspiracy to kill them offirrelevant until/unless confirmed
>>201973271She'll die more honorably and if someone asks, it's one of those historical myths that persisted because a bard made a song about it>Napoleon was a manlet and Hitler had one testicle
>>201973432>muh maester conspiracy to kill them offI didn't say anything about that. The eggs not hatching isn't conspiracy. It's literally what happens until Dany
>>201973354Why was Daemon so mad at the weirwood tree?
>>201973436but he was a manlet
>>201973363YES HE HAS AMNESIA AND LIVING WITH THE ORPHAN TEENBOY WITH BLOND HAIR AND BLUE EYES AND
>>201973447He was perfectly average for his time!
>>201973419>WITH BLOND HAIR AND BLUE EYESracist!
>>201971005Dyke DEI hire Hess has to remove the Dragoncock because she hates men
>>201973404>"The rape Mysaria, you were beautifull that day...">"Go full incel mode Aemond, burn your brother, burn them all...(and rape Alys too)"
>>201973458wasn't he like 5'8
>>201973404season 1 bran was icsh
Aegon will try to surrender the throne to Rhaenyra but Bran time wargs into him at the last second and eats Rhaenyra. It is known.
>>201973444Edgy
i thought Hess wrote the Lord of the Tides episode from season 1
>>201973444Incel petty revenge on the tree because it predicted his death
Sunfyre is not dead you retards, it’s so obvious they want it to be a big reveal next season.
What even was the point of watching season 2? And why should I watch season 3 if the only character left to care about is Aegon?
>>201973409NO
Cock or no i'm still an Aegonchad due to his witty personality. He's still a mad lad who still makes the best Ruler.
>>201973404>"Aegon? Have you seen that pretty maid that's walking round the palace Aegon? She's only 16 Aegon. When She says "no" she really means "yes" Aegon. It will be... Beautiful."
is the whole ep leaked or just some isolated scenes?
>>201973489He seemed pretty content and revitalized by his visions in the leaks.
>>201973503I'm actually convinced he's going to be in Otto mode next season and not turn up for most of it. Yes the show will be even more shit
>>201973503i want to hug and kiss him
>>201973440I was just pre-empting that because it seems to come up every time as if confirmed fact.He of several lax decisions is letting Rhaena, the last dragonrider, be married out, along with doing nothing about getting silverwing back. Dragonstone is looted of its eggs and lore scrolls during/after the dance, which also didn’t need to happen.It’s not solely because dragons stopped hatching and living to maturity. But that in itself is another point I’d make: you wouldn’t want to let it get to that point, because by then it’s so precarious you’re basically asking for a conspiracy to kill them the rest of the way off.It is framed as, “oh here’s how it went out of their control and snowballed,” but every step of the way more hypervigilance and caution could have stopped it.since f&b 2 is never coming out we won’t know the fates of Morning or Silverwing, but I imagine Morning dies in a bizarrely random accident and they’re just like “oh well” or some shit.
>>201973409Yes and they used the manure to grow grapes to make wine for the true king Aegon the Magnanimous
>>201973503this show is dead and you should find a new twink to lust over since this guy will look like a burn victim for the remainfer
>>201973527isolated ep with whole scenes
>>201973337I'll give you this, Lukebro. There was indeed a noticable drop in quality after Luke died. But I doubt the show will be improved if the would resurrect him, unless he is horribly disfigured and teams up with Aegon to kill Rhaenyra and Alicent.
>>201973531>and not turn up for most of it.thank god for that
>>201972858Sheepstealer
>>201973337based Luke anon
>>201973541You keep mentioning hyper vigiliance and caution while ignoring the civil war that happens. This is one of the tag lines of the show "the only thing that can take down the house of the dragon is itself" Your question boils down to "why did the Targaryens kill each other, don't they realise they'll lose dragons doing that???" Yes. The entire story is explaining how and why.
>Even Tumblr and TikTok is hating the leaks it's crazy to see the reaction to this blow up like this yeesh
>>201973487No that was Eileen Shim and Geeta Patel
Chinese style dragon when?
>>201971005I was wrong to say they made her ugly. Looks silvery and smooth and lush in the light. best dragon.
>>201973567>Wanting the only well written charcter left in this slop off screenCan you hue hues fuck off back to twitter? We're trying to have an adult conversation over here
>>201973469Yet interpretations of Napoleon's death certificate estimate that his height when he died was between 5'2” and 5'7” (1.58 and 1.7 meters). The discrepancy is often explained by the disparity between the 19th-century French inch, which was 2.71 cm, and the current inch measurement, which is 2.54 cm.And the average in france male was 1.64m (5'4"). Didn't know frenchies were that small back then.
>>201973436>Napoleon was a manlet and Hitler had one testicleThe British used to be really good at propaganda
>>201973581>ignoring the conflict I explained and acknowledged in my first postso you’re just being contrarian to b8, got it.guess that’s why you can’t seem to read or understand the actual point I made over and over.
>>201973591Why are female dragons so pretty?
House of the Wyvern desu
>>201973596I think anon is afraid they'll ruin him further. Which after the confirmation that his dragoncock exploded would be hard to do.
Any chance they'll get new writers or cancel the show if the backlash is big enough? Would it help to just not watch the episode officially to drive ratings down?
I guess we won't get the cool book proposal of splitting the realm into two new Kingdoms with Oldtown becoming the Southern capital. An interesting compromise.
>>201973485>"mmmm....just like Jojen......"
>>201973622No shit, you haven't made a point. Your point is "I don't like this story, it explains how the dragons died, the dragons are important, why didn't they treat them more carefully" Because they died. George has to explain why
>>201973637Normalfags will love it anyway until some big youtuber tells them that it was shit
>>201973588In the past, valyrians bred firewyrms with humans to make dragons or something
>>201973623because male dragons are sexy hot
>>201973447no, it’s an English misunderstanding of a Romance language feature. in languages like French, Italian, Spanish, etc, they add little suffixes to pronouns or names to express affection/familiarity/etcthey’re called diminutive suffixes. translations took it to mean literally calling him little, but it was more like, “our baby boi napoleon” or whatever. like mocking the comradery that was meant to be part of the culture of the revolution.
How big do we think Sunfyre’s shit was after eating Rhaenyra?
>>201973646Complete and utter nonsense. There's nothing that makes sense in this compromise.
>>201973630oh no i just don't care for him. his simps can fuck off. he is not an interesting character and the actor sucks.
Aegon the peacemaker
>>201973637Can it even be salvaged at this point without retconning characters and their motivations again? It's probably not going to get canceled, so I guess we'll be here in two years to witness the trashfire and have fun shitposting, just as we did during the later seasons of GoT.
I want to sleep next to a dragon like pic related.I bet they feel nice and cool.
Bran wargs into Vhagar:>"Aemond, you have to kill Luke and burn your brother, Aegon"
>>201973646Theres a town called Pinkmaiden?
>>201973688Yeah it may just be too late at this point. I'll probably end up hatewatching it if it still comes out.
>>201973680Medieval european kings splitted realms and titles like nothing. It was actually a common solution to avoid civil wars in murky succession issues.This is just Martin's modern idea that countries are monolitic blocks that cannot be splitted
>>201973688This show had less hype after 2 years with a good season, this shit will be dead in the water if they're waiting another 2 years>>201973703House Piper, they have the maiden on their shields and you even see them in episode 7 of HotD
>>201973335Unless they want to contradict Game of Thrones, he will need a dragon at some point. Either the old one is alive after all or he'll get a new one.
>>201973646>>201973680The plan might be nonsensical, but it makes more sense than Alicent just giving up the entire kingdom.
>>201973656>No shit, you haven't made a pointt. retard who can’t read>your point is blah blah nice contradicting yourself in your own post, and no, that was not my point.>because they died. George has to explain why.>omg you can’t question the writing just accept it ok!!!!!!!weird simp/shill dying on this hill to defend lazy writing, can’t say I’m surprised kek.
>>201973696Every Bran shitpost is also literally true
>>201973703>>201973718>goes around giving clothes to naked smallfolk maidensmmmnn
>>201973637Nope. At best HBO will tell them to cut that shit in one single season, with hillarious disasters as they dragged everything under the premise of two more seaons
>>201973727I just hope Isaac has grown out of his Mr Bean phase before they show us him again
>>201973113useless cunt
LOL
>>201973719Joffrey could've just read Green propaganda.
>>201973717am I mistaken in assuming they probably did this before bloody, disastrous conflict in which they both lost heirs and family members to eachother, as a way to forestall this exact type of civil war?
So Daemon gets a flash forward of GoT and his takeaway from that is they need to care about muh Long Night and muh Winter is Coming instead of "HOLY FUCK RHAENYRA we're going to die and all the dragons are going to die and Targaryen rule is finished, we need to fix this now"
>>201973680It avoids war along with the destruction and slow death of House Targaryen for starters. But Aegons the big winner if they just split by support like this. Rhaenyra really had the most lame regions backing her in comparison to Aegons GDP paradise.
>>201973717>>201973721I'm saying within the lore of ASOIAF it makes no sense. Her proposal is awfully shitty and why would any of the lords agree to it? >>201973726> George has to explain why.>omg you can’t question the writing just accept it ok!!!!!!!Spoiler alert retard, the dance was different when Game Of Thrones released. this is literally George re-writing his lore with the help of advisors to unfuck his own lore. It's not going to be satisfying because it didn't make sense from the start. If you didn't know that no wonder you're so confused.
>>201973747Now I kinda want to see them cram Gullet, Fall of KL, the Tumbletons, God's Eye, dragonpit and the ending all into one season on limited budget.
>>201973623nice coloring/patterning, smoother design, and graceful flying mechanics I guess.
>>201973757>rhaenyra’s death is just green propaganda broBack to plebbit you go.
>How the volcanoes raped Valyria, Daenys....it will be beautifull>If you dont want to get raped by lava too, take your family west
>>201973588this is caraxes
>>201973797>he believes Show rhaenyra will get the same treatment as in the book
>>201973787Only God's Eye will happen on screen
>>201973646Blacks get>useless Crownlands with its stinking shithole of a capital>indefensible Riverlands (useless once the endless respawning buff runs out)>Vale which is pretty good>Iron Islands who will backstab everyone no matter what>the sparsely populated, huge food sink and slow to rally Northmeanwhile the greens>rich and fruitful westerlands>military capable stormlands>rich, fruitful and hugely populated reach>oldtown in all its strengthblacks would get a hilarious bad deal, the greens would own them economically once a longer than average winter hits and the blacks need to import food.
Would the night king have been defeated even faster had the dance not happened? An army of the dead vs like 10 dragons seems like a fair fight.
>>201973832The night king wasn't even a threat with the kingdoms in open rebellion and suffering foreign invasions
>>201973761Indeed. Then they married among themselves to avoid useless blodsheed, so in the next 1-2 generation the realm would had reunited anyway>>201973780Because ASOIAF worldbuilding is hillariously bad and filled with thousands years old kingdoms and dynast whose borders change little (aside poor Riverlands)Somehow Tolkien's "irrealistic" world had more realistic dynamic political institutions and borders despite being mostly made up of immortal rulers
>>201973780>It's not going to be satisfying because it didn't make sense from the startlove how you don’t even disagree with what I was saying originally , now being a disingenuous coward pretending you already thought so. Imagine being in a thread for discussing an adaptation of a work and getting triggered and seething at people discussing flaws in that work. imagine being you and twisting yourself up so badly you can’t even keep it straight>no wonder you’re confused wasn’t and still not, can only assume this is projection. retard.
God I wish we could have the plot density of season 1 GoTWe've gone from leaving out things for the sake of efficiency and fitting things into an hour of TV, to leaving out things because uuuuhhhhhh and replacing it with nothing
>>201973823And they won't be able to afford dragon cgi so they'll have them duel on foot.
>>201973832Given the show has declared Danerys as "The Prince that was promised" in the final episode and you need the Dance and all the other shit that makes her the last Targ no.
>>201973847I don't know how else to explain to you, FIre and Blood is written to explain the death of dragons. The fact that you struggle with this is no longer my concern.
Why would the green army keep fighting when their king is missing? To crown Daeron?
>>201973862but she helped the white walkers more than she hindered
>>201973871Aemond is practically in charge already.
>>201973853But the cgi intern fucked up and uploaded the version where they fight with light sabres which he edited in his free time.
>we're going to make Alicent and Rhaenyra the main characters of their respective factions>Alicent defects to Rhaenyra's faction after barely doing anything for an entire seasonwew
>>201972856Aegon might claim a Grey Ghost
>>201973871Most likely with Aegon MIA, and Aemond going full schizo Columbine mode over the cope of being destined to a quick death, the remaining openly green forces will push for Daeron as king.Problem is, until the turncloak of Tumbleton happens, this is an hillarious uneven fight. One young dragon against what, seven?
>>201973871>Greenturd has no concept of loyalty
>>201973846>Because ASOIAF worldbuilding is hillariously bad and filled with thousands years old kingdoms and dynast whose borders change little (aside poor Riverlands)>Somehow Tolkien's "irrealistic" world had more realistic dynamic political institutions and borders despite being mostly made up of immortal rulersYep. They tried to add more flair in World of ice and fire by saying dumb shit like "oh the male lannister line is dead but a lydden married a lannister woman and took the name lannister. The more George fills out his world the less it makes sense. Why do no lords seem to own land in multiple kingdoms? How have there been so many rebellions yet Families exist in perpetuity ? So far in A Clash Of Kings more families have gone extinct or been exiled than in the history of Westeros. The Footlys in Clash or Swords are given land in the stormlands, yet this has seemingly never happened before.
>>201973780>the dance was different when Game Of Thrones releasedCan't we just ignore the sidebooks and pretend the Dance is this half mysterious thing we'll never learn more about
>>201973892and Rhaenyra also barely did anything for an entire season and tried to make peace with Alicent and was willing to give up if Viserys had really wanted Aegon to be heirseriously why even do this, better make it Aegon vs Jace or something, they'd even do the former friends turned enemies part better
>>201973917I mean in the appendix of Game of thrones. The dance has been officially retconned.
>>201973865>i don't know how else to explain to youyes you’re incompetent this not new information >the fact that you struggle with thisstill can’t follow what I was actually saying, of course lmao>noooo you’re not allowed to point out flaws only I can!!!what’s the psychology behind this specific type of retardation?>no longer my concern never was, no one asked you to, dumb cunt. you’re just another wikiwarrior trying to throw your weight around in an anonymous tranime board.
time to admit it the show is shit it will be nothing like the canon
>>201973262>>201973272>>201973291giving the hightower host the full body bumble bath
>>201973950Lmao. Keep seething about Georges worldbuilding instead of growing a brain and realising it was always shitty.
>>201973952the time to admit this was in the 1st or 2nd ep of s1, where have you been?
>>201973871>"With his brother Aemond slain as well, the greens found themselves kingless and leaderless. Prince Daeron stood next in line of succession. Lord Peake declared that they boy should be proclaimed Prince of Dragonstone at once; others, believing Aegon II dead, wished to crown him King.- Fire & Blood page 528. Yes.
>>201973900>Grey GhostOh and that's why Sunfyre is gonna kill Grey Ghost?
>>201973952>>201973983Once they aged up the characters the show went into the trash. There's a clear quality difference, Viserys and Daemon just covered for the weaker cast members in Season 1
>>201973914I would be okay if the dynasties proclaims of being 8k years old are bullshit to build prestige, just like Charlemagne claimed to be at the same time a descendant of David and Aeneas.But we know thanks to the Weirdwood visions that the Stark are indeed somehow 8k years old. And yet somehow the North entire population is not named stark>So far in A Clash Of Kings more families have gone extinct or been exiled than in the history of WesterosYea i noticed that too years ago and it completely destroyed my perception of Martin's worldbuildingThere are also no good reasons for the kingdoms on the western side of the continent to not just gang up on the ironiggers and destroy their culture
Who was Aegon III's third son supposed to be, I wonder.
>>201973976yes, people will discuss an adaptation in a thread for discussing it and you have no control over that. cope>grow a brainI’d wish the same for you but there’s less chance of that than getting Winds.
>>201973988>PeakeFucking worm
>>201974017You aren't discussing it. You're disputing it. There's a difference. You haven't made a single point all thread besides "don't they reliase killing their own dragons is dumb!!?! You're just arguing against the existence of the story.
>>201973871Crowning Daeron king is the entire reason why Ormund decided to march. Their plan was always to let Aegon and Aemond be killed by the Blacks and then defeat the Blacks and to install Daeron as king with the Hightowers as the sole dominant political force in Westeros.
>>201974065I bet they will go full Hightower conspiracy with season 3, even coasting on the Daeron "fabricated ideal king" akin to Young Griff
i just have a single question, why did the quality drop so much from season 1.first season wasn't perfect but it wasn't that bad, how did we go from the strong young rhaenyra who tells the pessimistic rhaenys that she won't fail like her, to this pathetic false queen that just complains all the time.what happens to the rhaenyra that takes her dragon to face the rebelious daemon.what happened to the cunning daemon who beat the triarchy, why is he just a passive pathetic loser who lets alys rivers and a fucking kid handle everything.what happened to corlys velaryon lord of the tides.why are all the characters so lame, passive and just uninteresting, why are the women so perfect and incapable of doing any wrong, why does the plot feel so slow.
>>201974026He probably sent a rider to bring his daughter to the Green army and Daeron at once lmao.
>>201974032>You aren't discussing it>hur dur I’m the roastie arbiter of how you’re allowed to discuss the show!!!>you’re disputing itoh no criticism in my incestporn general?!>you haven’t made a single pointwhy do you keep repeating that you’re a retard that can’t read? bizarre>you’re just arguing against the existence of the storyok I was using the conversational ‘retard’ but you might actually be retarded lmaoholy shit kek
I wonder what the S3 posters are gonna be like since they can no longer have muh two strong womyn staring down at each other
>>201974004Probably someone who got indirectly killed by Baelor's policies
>>201974003>There are also no good reasons for the kingdoms on the western side of the continent to not just gang up on the ironiggers and destroy their cultureI don't mind this much, if we run with the idea they have a strong fleet, as seen during most of their rebellions they're able to take on the lannisters and the reach. It's like the existence of Ireland. Raiders are a minor problem that aren't worth the investment required to completely unroot them. What makes less sense is how Martin added in Worlds that the iron isles have been conquered multiple times and even the Andals conquered it but "the drowned god faith was too strong lol" So now they don't even have that excuse. At least with Robert he had the trend of just forgiving his enemies if they knelt, but why the Ironborn exist after being conquered by Andals, Westermen, and the Targs it makes so little sense.
>>201974101why not? they'll turn it back around to rhaenicent somehow
>>201974101From the trends so far more redditfags will join and less old /gotfags/ will be around.
>>201973998>Viserys and Daemon just covered for the weaker cast members in Season 1this
>>201974096See >>201972861Sapochnik left after season 1, apparently because he and Condall/Hess had radicall different ideas of what to do in season 2.All we know of his plans is that he wanted to cut all the forced stuff tying HOTD with GOT, and he was the biggest supporter of the Haelaemond shipThis season is entirely Hess and Condal branchild
>>201974101quasi lesbian romance looking setup where they’re both draped on the throne or something, that will fool viewers into thinking there’s female nudity or anything remotely titillating, which there will not be.
>>2019740962 year gap and showrunners disagreeed on the direction of the show which is why Miguel Sapochik or shit or whatever is gone.
>>201974003The need the Ironborn to supply the thriving port of Lannisport with high quality plunder.
>>201974145
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>>201974136>apparently because he and Condall/Hess had radicall different ideas of what to do in season 2.This was not why, or if it was, was probably exacerbated after the fact in claims to make Sapochnik look less unreasonable.he left because they refused to make his unqualified wife a producer on the show. Thats why it was so abrupt and announced to damage the show when it had just started airing.
>>201974113>if we run with the idea they have a strong fleetOf which we know one single canonical proper naval battle, in which they might Ironfleet was BTFO by a autismo with no previous experience in seafaring (Stannis)They really seems only good in killing unarmed fishermen and rape/enslave their women
>>201974151>>201974160you guys fucking suckalways update the fucking catalog before you press submit on your new thread
>>201971300>Is there anything they can do to salvage S3they need to change their approach and make it about other lords and the smolfolk reacting to the big players' decisions and maybe sometimes they see them and interact with them.but this requires actual effort so we'll never see it.
>>201974092Yeah pretty much. Daeron will surely have an excellent religious and scientific education (because Oldtown).I also always wondered if the Hightower march was deliberately slower than it could have been. Similar to how long it took Cregan to arrive to KL. And how long it took the Baratheons to arrive. Same with Arryns lmaoThe whole Dance, is great houses waiting for the Targaryens to kill each other before coming in.
>>201974220>The whole Dance, is great houses waiting for the Targaryens to kill each other before coming in.Based fuck Tarshits
>>201974179Eh not so much battle prowess but Victarion says thisThe Iron Islands shall be free again, and the Old Way will return. Even Dagon could not do that.” Almost a hundred years had passed since Dagon Greyjoy sat the Seastone Chair, but the ironborn still told tales of his raids and battles. In Dagon’s day a weak king sat the Iron Throne, his rheumy eyes fixed across the narrow sea wherebastards and exiles plotted rebellion. So forth from Pyke Lord Dagon sailed, to make the Sunset Sea hisown. “He bearded the lion in his den and tied the direwolf’s tail in knots, but even Dagon could notdefeat the dragons."So clearly during Dagons reign they were able to control the seas on the west until the continent united.
>>201974151>>201974160Retards. Why are you changing the way we normally do things?
>>201973291I'm confused... don't the Beesburys go against the Hightower
>>201974316 Because having the leaks in the OP is better?
>>201974323Which is why it's dumb. Lymans son is executed by the Targaryen king before the dance. The Beesbury's are under the assumption Lyman is a prisoner in the capital, they rebel and start a war with the Hightowers except they're a tiny house and the Hightowers are described as by far the strongest bannerman sworn to house Tyrell , AKA the most powerful house in the reach not including the Tyrells
>>201973378>It's dumb in the books too, they never mention Lymans son in the show. There's no way a tiny house like Beesbury would rise up because "OUR LORD IS A PRISONER!! I'M GOING INSANE" to fight loyally on the side of the house who executed their heir. Can you explain this? What heir was executed? And by whom? Don't the Beesburys fight against team green? so confused
>>201974369Lyman Beesbury had a son, known as Stinger who was killed by Jaehareys for fucking someone he shouldn't have. For some reason the Beesburies are fanatic loyalists to the targ cause that with their lord prisoner (actually dead but they think he is in prison) they go to war with the most powerful house in the Reach. Why?
>>201974267>Rheagar: "if your bf andal you single to me. Fuck bobby gon do-ACK"
>>201973448>>201973419do they have loads of got gay sex?
>>201973444>The Great Council deliberated for thirteen days.>Daemon waited 13 days at the place where the great council of 101 took placeCoincidence?
>>201973422>>201973384>“I thought as much,” Lord Borros said. “Go home, pup, and tell the bitch your mother that the Lord of Storm’s End is not a dog that she can whistle up at need to set against her foes.” And Prince Lucerys turned to take his leave of the Round Hall.
>>201974341Check the catalog before making another low effort thread.
>>201973132>>201973129>“Remember GOT”I genuinely don’t get why they think the memberberries are helping them. People dropped the franchise because it sucked so bad. Stop reminding them.
>>201973396He will micro Dunk, it will be a beloved adaption, a return to form and then they’ll realize he forgot to write the ending of that story as well so it goes off the rails completely. George promises to finish Winds in 2030 so he can write more Dunk
>>201971521>and Daemon Blackfyre is r'hllors original chosenElaborate
>>201973755>watch leak>see this sceneI just knew people were gonna make oh lawdy jokes
>>201974533holy shit I've never noticed that, sneaky sneaky GeorgeWhat does this mean?
