aegon’s hill editionprev >>202026037
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missionary sex with baela and rhaena!
Regular reminder that Young Griff is a true Targaryen. Dany remembering the lemon trees in Braavos, where no trees grow, is a hint that her origin is a lie, her memories are unreliable, and in fact she is a Blackfyre.
Remember to worship R'hllor, kids
>I DUN WAN ITNow we know where Jon got his cuck genes from.
I actually can't get over how Alicent spent more time interacting with Rhaenyra than Aemond or Aegon. They really put no effort into them just like Jace and Luke.The whole of season two can be described as two FMCs whining that men don't respect them and then trying to scissor eachother, rather than making them the driving force of conflict. The actual players (people that advance the plot) are basically completely underdeveloped and ignored.
>>202032653And Viserys is a Lysene Slave with schizoid disorder
>>202032596Fuck this show for being feminist hotshit and not including Johanna Lannister's BTFOing of the Ironcucks.
Team Black Assemble
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>>202032705Luckily Bran has only Aemond's anime genes so he knows how to manipulate these weaklings.
>>202032653>>202032714stop pushing your dumbass theory retard
>>202032714Viserys has always been my literally me.Lose everything you never had, try hard, die anyway.
>>202032596>>202032725>Actual PoC character >Retcon her>Actual girlboss>Ignore her Hahaha. Amazing
>>202032725including her would just make rhaenyra look bad, so they opted not to.im very certain this is their reasoning.
>>202032725It was always very unlikely that they'd include it. The whole ironborn plotline during the Dance is very ancillary to the main story and can easily be cut. Yeah, the ironborn are rapists and thieves, everyone already knew that
>>202032653>Jon gets Rhaegal>Aegon gets Viserion>Dany obviously keeps Drogon>Rickon gets Cannibal (which is possible because the stark kids all descend from Aemond) who has Bran inside of him before he dies only to get wight'd by the Others
>>202032736At least you've got some more white men back in your ranks. That's more important than the dragon taming.
Ser Criston Cole has posted...
>>202032858Actually Drogon kneels when he meets Aegon, and Daenerys is sold back to Khal Pono to service his 40,000 horses (sexually).
>>202032736I wish Ulf and Hugh will remain loyal because I'm starting to like them and I hate what happens next
>>202032884And *what* has Ser Criston Cole posted?
aggghh...
Regarding Tyrion Targaryen, they don’t actually engage with the theory itself, and just go “well it would be better if he was Tyrion’s son” and move on.
>>202032858Did that theory make the Alys and Aemond kid an ancestor to the Lothstons or the Whents?
>>202032912They would have remained loyal if Jace didn't behave like an insecure bitch and alienated them.
>>202032736beautiful family <3
>>202032825>Girlboss?>Stealing thunder rom Rhaenyra?>On the designated bad CHUD side?!>AIIIIIIIIIIE
>>202032814Yeah it's really weirdThey just want to replace whites
>>202032947i think it would be better if jaime and cersei were targaryens
>>202032912the "betrayal" is what makes them coolthe blacks were content to let them suffer until they needed them, so there's no reason to remain loyal
>>202032725why people always latch on the weirdest characters
My short kingMy miniature massa My burned beautyMy blazing starMy merciful monarchMy promised caliphI kneel
>>202032951Lothston, which the Whents are descended from
>>202032977It looks like on the show they are going to put the blame on Jace because of his "racism" towards them but on the book it wasn't like that.
>>202032590because she is the only person who could have hatched the eggs, and everything GRRM built was around it being this unique thing belonging to these unique people.In addition, Dany and Tyrion are both so intricately tied to their images of who their fathers are and how it reflects on them, it totally removes any of that tension and conflict over what they do as a result.If Dany does all this mad queen stuff, or is perceived to, but she's not even his daughter there's no point to it. It doesn't answer any questions. It's just some random nobody torturing themselves over whether they're like X person who they aren't actually related to.GRRM is very big on identity, what it means for the characters, and this concept of being "the real deal," which is why there is a core of characters who are all unequivocably the real deal. I'd say dany, tyrion, bran and/or arya. That kind of thing.you can maybe do it with 1 core character and have it work, such as Jon, because his core conflict is about him not knowing who he is or where he came from. Thinking he's Ned's bastard? there's no conflict there, he's not afraid to be the same as him--he wants to fit the image he has of Ned. That's the reason him not being who he thinks he is works. Take it away from Dany or Tyrion and they become very shallow characters.If you see Tyrion's choices when he meets Faegon, it all leads to his greater arc of being as spiteful and cruel as his father, becoming not only no better than Tywin, but actually worse in terms of how much destruction he causes.
More bees your grace?
>>202033028>weirdest charactersAnyone that slaughters ironborn by the thousands and gelds one of them to turn him into her son's fool is all right by my book
>>202033036There's a lot of irony that Aegon would have been a good king if Viserys had been a father to him, and yet Vissy put all his love into his fat daughter that avoided duty and responsibility and didn't want the throne until it was denied her
>>202032694Babe do you worship R'hllor? Because I want to see that ass high.
>>202032947or you just don't read the explanations for why it doesn't make sense and go, "omg so cool sekrit lineage!!!" like a typical marveslop enjoyer.
i need to know exactly who i'm shitposting with here tonight>can you do 100 push ups uninterrupted>what man in the game of thrones universe do you think can >who man can't>what woman can
>completely neuters himself because he had some spoopy dreamsWut
>>202032907>Actually Drogon kneels when he meets AegonConsidering Young Griff's color scheme is full black, I think it could make sense and would definitely fuel Dany's metldown bloodlust, but she needs a dragon to go nuclear in the first place so IDK
>>202033170>>202032907Sorry, but Victarion and the gang are blowing the horn for Drogon
Reminder that Dany is the villain. She is Sauron.When Daenerys invades Westeros, her armies and forces will consist of:>An army of obedient and disciplined eunuch soldiers who feel no pain>A savage horde of 100,000 Dothraki screamers and bloodriders>Tattooed slave freaks>Brutal torturers who wear the masks of bronze beasts>The scum of the East>Exiles and traitors>Sellsword companies without honour and brutal mercenaries>Reaving Ironborn raiders and pirates and a fleet of savages who drown their enemies and rape their women>Cultist extremists who follow a vicious God of Fire, who demands blood sacrifice in the form of burning innocents alive>Enormous dragons- fire made flesh to burn cities to the ground and to melt the skin off menWhen she arrives in Westeros, she won't be seen as a savior. One look at her army and any Westerosi are going to think a foreigner horde from hell has arrived. Her forces directly parallel the forces of Sauron in Lord of the Rings. An eastern menace.The reason why she's Sauron is because GRRM always admitted he hated how Sauron was too one dimensional in his villainy, and that he wondered what Sauron's actual motivations were.Dany will cause despicable carnage to Westeros, and because we've been following her for so long, some people will sympathise with her demented cause of destroying Westeros with hostile foreigner, because we've seen this villain's side of the story.It's also worth noting that the name of this series is A Song of Ice and Fire- it's a reference to Robert Frost's poem, Fire and Ice.So if you have ideas of this series ending in the good forces of fire against the evil forces of ice, you'll be wrong.Robert Frost's poem is about death. Ice is a bitter cold death, and fire is a passionate explosive death. Dany and her dragons are as much of a threat to our story as the Others are.
>>202032977I don't know if you watched the leaked clips but it wasn't Jace's fault. Ulf was an asshole.
Alfred Broom seems like a character to look out for. I think he is going to end up being Rhaenyra's most trustworthy advisor. Sometimes our enemies become our most important allies. And Alfred Broome really demonstrates that.
>>202032694i worship R'Booba
>>202033197So it's like when Illidan and Arthas fought in the final mission of the Frozen Throne?
>>202033105If only he was a better father
>>202033200nta but what did he do?
>Jon>Dany>Aegon>JaceShort and cute Targs!!
>>202033091>More bees your gr-ACK
>>202033200Your bitchboy got ptsd kek
I think Ulf and Jace are going to end up being really good friends. ometimes our enemies become our most important allies. And Ulf the White really demonstrates that.
>>202033197King's Landing confirmed to be burned down?
>>202033297>nunclephobia
>>202032947>>202033014>>202033117Jaime and Cersei are targs.Tyrion is both; he's a chimera. Which is an abomination of a female egg that got impregnated by two different sperm of two different males.
>>202033200What did Ulf do? Call Jace a bastard?
>when they have the weak hearts of women
>>202033297I think Aemond and Luke are going to end up being really good friends. Sometimes our enemies become our most important allies. And Aemond One-eye really demonstrates that.
>>202033155>let me just destroy all the things about myself that make me cool and interesting. I am simp malewife now
>>202033305It reminds me of True Lord Roose Bolton, taking the young wolf under his wing
>>202033346>Ser Ilyn - Bring me his head!A moment that changed television forever
>>202033201Broome definitely seems like he's based as fuck
They told Rhaenys actor that she should channel Hillary, they told Alicent that should channel women for Trump. How did the writers get this job?
>>202033316Kek
>>202032694that scene was so good, it made her seem super hot and striking
>>202033255So Aegon is the good guy?
>>202033388>how did jews get a job in hollywoodWe'll never know
>>202033357This show is just retarded female wish fulfillment. There is nothing women crave more than having the respect of men without actually having to do anything to earn that respect.
>>202033388>Rhaenys actor that she should channel Hillarychannel a loser?>they told Alicent that should channel women for Trumpwhat does this one mean? are women only supposed to vote for his opposition?
>>202033432Always was
>>202033388Imagine next season when Rhaenyra is an Adderall popping wine aunt BRAT like Kamala! Can't wait!
>>202033249>>202033340He was disrespectful towards Rhaenyra and Jace. He forcefully hugged Jace without his consent and even touched his hair, he mentioned that his hair is indeed really dark and compared himself with Jace, said they're both similar.
>>202033388>Whole season 1 and 2 is just modern political-brained lukewarm piss rather than a war drama.>Rhaenyra was like "haha! You a slut too pickme!" *crosses arms* on the eve of a giant death war instead of instantly taking her hostageThese people can not write for shit kek
>>202033346>That shot of salsalmao
>>202033498>Rhaenys actor that she should channel Hillary>channel a loser?Well, Rhaenys IS a loserPassed over by her grandfatherLost an electionLost her children
>>202033527how is that disrespectful? jace lived off the labor of ulf and others like him without their consent. was that not disrespectful?
>>202033498Rhaenys is Hillary "a lot more competent woman who just got sidelined because she is not a man". So Viserys is Trump.And Alicent is supposed to be Women For Trump meaning a woman supporting the patriarchy. They told this to the two actrassessI fucking hate this show.
>>202033574Only one Targaryen has acknowledged that they live and win due to the efforts of the smallfolk
>>202033527>mongrel speegs out when other mongrel points out the obviousMaybe he is black after all...
>>202033592So is J.D Vance Aemond or Aegon?
>>202033592https://www.dexerto.com/tv-movies/house-of-the-dragon-olivia-cookes-alicent-is-a-woman-for-trump-1939745/https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2024-07-07/rhaenys-house-of-the-dragon-eve-best
>>202033498>women for trumpA repressed whore who caters to men before they meet the only possible outcome of this which is being enslaved, abused and ignored and then seeing the light, probably going too the feminist and vegeta kneeling to her ideology at the end.
>>202033592What patriarchy tho? Women serve in government and vote. Is their idea of equality that they should be in control?
>>202033527Why is Jace acting like a woman? Wtf is this writing?
>>202033619Who?>>202033641>A repressed whore who caters to menSo like Rhaenyra being groomed by her uncle for sex?
>>202033592Trying to superimpose American politics on top of a medieval style feudal setting will always be peak retard. >It was HER TURNIt's a hereditary monarchy, lol. I'm supposed to feel bad for Rhaenys because she was born with more privilege than 99.99999999% of people in Westeros?
"Sara Hess, who’s one of the executive producers and the lead writers for the show, said to me on the first day, “There’s so much of Hillary Clinton [in Rhaenys].” God knows you couldn’t compare Viserys to the other one [former President Trump], but the similarities are very clear — to see that the person who is absolutely, hands down, best suited for the job is sidelined simply because she’s a woman, and then has to somehow find her way."
>>202033686Maybe Daemon was the real Trump.
>>202033686That was am empowered girlboss moment chud
>>202032653Why are readers such humongous brainlets who can't understand the Blackfyres are an exitinct house and random female descendant #3958398 doesn't count.
>>202033686The one true king.Aegon the Magnanimous, Second of His name, King of the Andals, of the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realmhttps://youtu.be/lVGAPpegwdQ?si=fpLaft4YUqtso8x-
>>202033709i double-dog dare you to post on X (formerly Twitter)
>>202033707I am not even a fucking American. I don't care you fuck, I want Fire and Blood, I want the incest albinos to Kiss and kill each other on fat flying lizards.
>>202033619Makes sense since he's spent a lot of time around them, the best kings are ones that mingle with the commoners
>>202033764>>202033815Rhaenyra is the rightful queen
>>202033432If the Greens had actually listened to his advice at that council meeting rather than going "shut up Aegon you retard" they'd have been in a lot better place with a dead Daemon by now.
>>202033646Sara Hess hates Jace (she mentioned before that he's one of the toxic men Rhaenyra's life who is also rebelling against her. I'm not surprised if she's doing this on purpose, in the last two episodes Jace is a completely different person compared to how he is described in the book. The show is turning him into an insecure incel and his fans have every right to be disappointed.
>>202033848
>>202033848I don't see the cock beetwen her legs. Which means she is not the eldest son of Viserys. Which means she is not the heir.
>>202033848rhaenyra, who said, "fuck the smallfolk"
>>202033916>>202033927Viserys said she was his heir, and the king's word is law
>>202033746because readers observe the number of times GRRM describes House Blackfyre as "extinct in the male line" and suspect there's a reason he's using those particular words
>>202033967*Black supporters on their way to burn Kingslanding to the ground*"King's wors is law"
>>202033967t. Joffrey
>>202033911>Sara Hess hates JaceI'm not even surprised
i feel like getting rid of sara hess wouldn't solve all the problems with the show, but it would solve a bunch of them
>>202033998"Good king Aerys ordered it"
>>202033967Agreed thats why England had a Queen Matilda
>>202033201Oh sweet summer child....
>>202033036The Golden Dragon will rise again
>>202033979How many times was it described like that anyway, I can only remember once to be fair. And it still doesn't matter, nearly every house can survive through its female branch but the name is still extinguished.
>>202032694>R'hllor brings people back to life>it's just some weird cult weirdos are into>seven doesn't do shit>old gods don't do shitWhy the FUCK hasn't everyone converted yet?
>>202033967If king's word is law, then Daemon Blackfyre is the rightful king
>>202033998>>202034025>>202034061>greens oppose rule of lawbig surprise, commie fucks
Reminder that blacks are literally these prophecy "torchbearers" and the conflict will be framed as them being morally obligated to win by any means necessary to ensure the survival of the world. A card they didn't need to begin with because Aemond is a now isolated school shooter and the developed greens want the blacks to win.This conflict couldn't be any less one sided and boring.
Reminder that all black arguments for Rhaenya's "legitimacy" can be summed up with this image.
>>202034074Where's he from anyway? Riverland?
>>202034039>2022
>>202034098You think Stephen of Blois was a communist?
>>202034034>condal hates aegon>hess hates jace>condal also hates daemonhow can they write a show when they hate half the characters?
>>202034102>This conflict couldn't be any less one sided and boring.That's the Dance for you
>>202034098It's literally the opposite of the rule of law to just have the king do whatever he wants, you cretin.
Reminder that Helaena spoils Aemond's death in the last episode. It's as if they win cancel the show and they want the audience to already know what happens next.
>>202034090>the name is still extinguished.Not the magical dragonrider blood and the contracts written in blood and old grievances.Those endure.
>>202033967No the council of 101 AC is law
>>202034039She added to it but she wasn't the one who decided to tell the story from the point of view of women and link the whoke thing to Trump v Hilary.
>>202034092Only the righteous fight for the Lord of Light>More and more men were pouring from the trees, not only knights now but freeriders and mounted bowmen and men-at-arms in jacks and kettle helms, dozens of men, hundreds of men. A blaze of banners flew above them. The wind was whipping them too wildly for Jon to see the sigils, but he glimpsed a seahorse, a field of birds, a ring of flowers. And yellow, so much yellow, yellow banners with a red device, whose arms were those?>East and north and northeast, he saw bands of wildlings trying to stand and fight, but the attackers rode right over them. The free folk still had the numbers, but the attackers had steel armor and heavy horses. In the thickest part of the fray, Jon saw Mance standing tall in his stirrups. His red-and-black cloak and raven-winged helm made him easy to pick out. He had his sword raised and men were rallying to him when a wedge of knights smashed into them with lance and sword and longaxe. Mance's mare went up on her hind legs, kicking, and a spear took her through the breast. Then the steel tide washed over him.>It's done, Jon thought, they're breaking. The wildlings were running, throwing down their weapons, Hornfoot men and cave dwellers and Thenns in bronze scales, they were running. Mance was gone, someone was waving Harma's head on a pole, Tormund's lines had broken. The fires were leaping from tent to tent and some of the tall pines were going up as well. And through the smoke another wedge of armored riders came, on barded horses. Floating above them were the largest banners yet, royal standards as big as sheets; a yellow one with long pointed tongues that showed a flaming heart, and another like a sheet of beaten gold, with a black stag prancing and rippling in the wind.>Robert, Jon thought for one mad moment, remembering poor Owen but when the trumpets blew again and the knights charged, the name they cried was "Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!"
>>202033707>the person who is absolutely, hands down, best suited for the job is sidelinedViserys wouldn't have killed innocent people in the dragonpit.
>>202034181Ok, anon, whatever you say.
>>202034090Any female-line descendant can just take the name again, it's not like the name itself was inherited from anyone. Daemon Blackfyre gave himself that name, why shouldn't one of his descendants do the same?
>>202034092Only once twice, and by one priest who is even surprised himself
>>202033646setting Jace up as the reason the dragonsneeds betray them later and make it so Rhaenyra doesn't look bad when the black one sacrifices himself to prove his loyalty. Jace has to be turned into an asshole to make girlboss look good, she can't have any flawsyou knew it would go down this path from the start, writers only get more emboldened when people accept and justify BS like making the Valeryons nogs. Same thing happened with GOT, people accepted D&D doing hack shit in earlier seasons and they got arrogant. People just need to wait 5-10 years for AI to improve more and you'll get proper fan adaptations that BTFO of the official shit
Why wouldn’t the Lords vote for Rhaenys over Viserys? Okay, Viserys is a male, but voting for Rhaenys completely destabilises the Targaryens and means dragons can pass to other Houses. Moreover, the Velaryons cannot practice divine right, meaning they would have to marry into other Houses, diluting their blood. Rhaenys husband is also the wealthiest Lord in the kingdom while Viserys is just the king’s grandson.
tfw you say it
>>202034146I meant narratively, not Factually. The antagonists are like retarded caricatures. Am I watching a cartoon? Does team rocket have any more depth than that or are they just cannon fodder?
>>202034039>reminder that hess' literally threatened to walk from the show if her version wasn't kept>HBO have incurrent year moment
>>202034291Based nuncle
>>202034227>And through the smoke another wedge of armored riders came, on barded horses. Floating above them were the largest banners yet, royal standards as big as sheets; a yellow one with long pointed tongues that showed a flaming heart, and another like a sheet of beaten gold, with a black stag prancing and rippling in the wind.>>Robert, Jon thought for one mad moment, remembering poor Owen but when the trumpets blew again and the knights charged, the name they cried was "Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!"still shocks me that people claim no one loves Stannis and that he has no charisma
>>202034283Sexism, they knew what Jaehaerys wanted, Daemon was hiring mercenaries in case they didn't vote for Viserys, etc.
>>202034092Old Gods give you precognition and possession abilities mate
>>202033916>for some reason the Targs don't use this obvious dream as propaganda to justify their rule and tell everybody>despite the fact it's well known they survived the doom due to their family's prophetic dreams>keep this important knowledge completely secret so that a single person dying could result in the knowledge being lostGRRM is such a hack for this retcon
>>202034283Because it sets a precedent that daughters can inherit over sons, which threatens any house whose eldest child is a daughter married to some other house - it means that house can lay claim to the daughter's ancestral lands over the male heirs who carry the name.Besides, the vote wasn't between Rhaenys and Viserys, it was between Laenor and Viserys.
>>202032925ahm .... Rhaenyra is aWHOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
i just can't believe alicent betrayed literally everyone on her side and admitted to fucking criston cole to rhaenyra. if rhaenyra had said yes, she would likely have caused the deaths of>her son>her other son>her other son>her lover>her brother>her fatherlike what the fuck
>>202034232That is literally what is happening anon.Those friends in the Reach are most likely from houses that lost lands after the Blackfyre Rebellion and who grew up hearing how in their great grandparent's time they lost land.Here's me hoping some Peake shows up to help fAegon
>>202034233...because they didn't? Obviously no one took into account the fact that Maelys would be the last of his line and also childless and the women were married off and didn't bother. And why should they considering none had ambitions for the Iron Throne.
>>202034273I just know that Sara Hess is behind this but it's not like I trust Condal either, he made it clear when he said they want the audience to root for Hugh so you just know what he's doing, Condal also thinks the Rhaenicent scenes were exactly what everyone wanted to seew. We literally won't be free unless Condal and Hess get replaced.
>>202034283Wasn't the vote between Laenor Velaryon and Viserys Targaryen in the books?
>>202034384Who on the writing team is self inserting into alicent
>>202034370Fire & Blood and its aftermath has been a disaster for ASOIAF
>>202034384It was a heckon' wholesome woman for trump coming to the light moment.
>>202034384womyn can go no wrong chud
>>202032725Wasn't Johanna in the episode 8 leaks?
>>202034384Hess moment. In her lesbian fantasy world all women love each other and hate all the men in their lives but its le ebil patriarchy that keeps them from admitting it
>>202034406We won't be free any way. The only way to fix this is restarting from episode 1.Preferebly with a new cast.
>>202034398So at which point will these staunch genius loyalists reveal to the kingdom that the kid raised and crowned and presented as a Targaryen was a Blackfyre all along? Epic prank btw
>>202034489>Season 2 >Conflict is being undermined by pigshit men>Rhaenyra and Alicent not being the banner waivers in the conflict>Literally take field trips to see the bestie and learn they both did nothing wrongYou are literally describing season 2, holy shit this sucks.
>>202034144Because it's the men bad, woman good show.
>>202034291Based
>>202034283>Viserys+Son of popular prince Baelon+Male line over the female line+A man, with a child+Last name Targaryen+Allied with the Vale, brother allied with Royce+Last rider of Balerion+Daemon apparently raised an army to threaten people if his brother wasn't elected-Balerion is dead>Rhaenys (Laenor)+Corlys is the richest and wants his son on the throne+Closest claimant to Jaeherys (primogeniture)+Lords angry with Old King support Laenor (Stark, Manderly)+Baratheon support+Laenor has Seasmoke-A woman, and line through a woman-A child-Last name VelaryonAnd at the end they chose Viserys, and apparently by a landslide
>>202034379It doesn’t set any precedent, it actually enforces Andal Law. Rhaenys was the only child of Jaehaerys’ first heir. Under Andal Law she should inherit.>>202034418Yes
the rightful queen
>>202034273everything about this show makes sense when you realize they are distorting an established story to make rhaenyra look as good as possibleWhy isn't there a black aly or joanna lannister? they would make rhaenyra look weak.Why did the cut Nettles? So Rhaenyra doesn't come off as a racist, jealous, targ supremacist when she runs off with Daemon.
>>202034558I loved her...once
>>202034370oh, also forgot>despite claiming to rule due to a dream about a threat from the North, do nothing to prepare>no ties to the rulers called the Kings of Winter with a sword called Ice>allow Night's Watch to go from 10K men and 20 forts to less than 1K and 3 forts due to lack of funding
>>202034518Why would they?The gain nothing by it.
Cute!
i miss 2016that's when the franchise was at a combined peak of popularity and receptionnow it feels like this franchise will never recover
**Criston Cole:** As I was saying, one cannot discount the influence of noble birthright. It is the cornerstone of the realm's stability—those who inherit their power have the wisdom to wield it.**Larys Strong:** "Noble birthright is the cornerstone of the realm’s stability..." You know, Ser Criston, that line sounds awfully familiar. Wouldn’t be from Maester Vickers’ treatise on the Lordships of the Riverlands, would it? Page 98, if I’m not mistaken.Yes, I’ve read it too. But tell me, were you planning to pass off the whole passage as your own insight? Or do you actually have a thought of your own to share? Or is this your usual sport—regurgitate the words of wiser men to impress those who don’t know better? Embarrass my friend in the process, no less.**Criston Cole:** You presume much, Larys. You think you can judge me because you've read a few books?**Larys Strong:** No, Ser Criston. I judge you because I’ve seen men like you my whole life. Men who believe that power comes from lineage and titles, rather than the mind. The sad truth is, in fifty years, when you’re too old to swing a sword, you might start thinking for yourself. And when you do, you’ll realize that you’ve spent your life repeating what others have told you, without ever forming a single original thought.**Criston Cole:** A man like me will always have his place in the world, Larys. I’ll have my titles, my lands, my legacy. And what will you have? You’ll be nothing more than a whisper in the shadows.**Larys Strong:** Perhaps. But at least I won’t be unoriginal.
>>202034518Do they have to even reveal it? I'm sure if Daemon Blackfyre had won the war, he would have ascended the Iron Throne as Daemon I. Targaryen. And I don't think fAegon even knows about it. By marrying Dany they would unknowingly heal the rift that started so long ago.Of course that is not going to happen, since fAegon will marry Arianne.
>>202034672>everything about this show makes sense when you realize they are distorting an established story to make rhaenyra look as good as possible>Why did the cut Nettles? So Rhaenyra doesn't come off as a racist, jealous, targ supremacist when she runs off with Daemon.i think this might be accurate
Maelor was written out so that Aegon has no male heirs to threaten Rhaenyra's claim, which allows Alicent to offer up her sons to Rhaenyra while letting her daughter and her single (female) granchild live.
>>202034370did grrm even make up "aegon's dream"? i thought it was invented for the tv show.
>>202034144>condal also hates daemonTo be fair, Hess also hates Daemon
>>202034672>Daemon being cucked into a male wife that twitter moms don't like him anymore.Dont have the talent to make him have free will and care for Rhaenyra lol?
>>202034642Rhaenys's position would be stronger if her father had ever actually been king, but he wasn't. He died still a prince, which left the matter ambiguous. And when the lords convened to settle the matter, Rhaenys was outvoted 20-1, which is only possible if the Andal lords overwhelmingly voted against her.Jaehaerys himself came to power ahead of Rhaena, who was Aenys's oldest living heir.
>>202034384it's even worse because the force Rhaenyra to irrationally refuse because logic would have the war end there>Aegon can't produce an heir, no need to kill him>could either make him your fool as a mockery or send him to the Wallwriters once again wanted an ebin confrontation between them and twisted the story to make it happen, same shit happened in late season GOT. It's what hack writers do
>>202034380
>>202034757yikes
>>202034757if they could get away with not doing blood and cheese at all. they absolutely would
>>202034370>for some reason the Targs don't use this obvious dream as propaganda to justify their rule and tell everybodyThat's my biggest issue with all this they'd have carved that prophesy into rock in every town in Westeros to justify their rule it'd be retarded not to.
>>202034815>Jaehaerys himself came to power ahead of Rhaena, who was Aenys's oldest living heir.And over his nieces as well, who were both Maegor and Aegon the uncrowned's heirs
>>202034836they tried their best to make it as uneventful as possible
>>202034273By trying to absolve Rhaenyra of every potential fault they're just making her boring. She has even less agency than Alicent now. Jace is much more interesting than Rhaenyra but they want us to think he's the bad guy. These writers are incapable of writing compelling protagonists and then chimpout when the audience naturally likes the more interesting antagonists.
>>202034652nice tits
>>202034715>not a single scene of Helaena and/or Jaehaera visiting the injured Aegon>instead we get Alicent swimming in a lake
If you’re riding a dragon and you have to go poop, what do you do? What if your dragon has to go poop? What if you’re in a dragon battle and everyone has to go poop?
>>202034896>>202034273
>>202034859This. There's no reason to keep the prophecy a seekrit.
>>202034815The Andal Lords did vote against her, but I’m asking why exactly they voted against her, and why it was so lopsided.Also, Jaehaerys became king because Aenys’ line was dispossessed and needed to retake the throne. He took it as a claimant. Different situation.
>>202034907>instead we get Alicent swimming in a lakeI think that was meant to show how conflicted she is so there's at least some build-up for why the crazy bitch goes offf the rails next episode
>>202034885it's apart of a larger problem. they treat reactions to tragedies like obligations. like they need to get them out of the way before the next big plot point. >rhaenyra sad for luke for one ep then moves on>aegon freaks out over jaehaerys dying for one ep then moves on>helaena doesn't even give a shit>corlys grieves for rhaenys for one ep then moves onnone of the deaths have staying power because they don't work them into the story, rather they treat them as obstacles.
Not cheat on your first husband you treacherous whore. Alhamdulillah.
>>202034918im sure if you had to poop, the dragon could sense it via bond. the real question is if you could tell if they're agitated and thus need to poop
>>202034918You shit before battle.
>>202034907imagine if she fucking drowned. like they kill alicent off early and we never saw olivia cooke in this show again
>>202034725>2016That's also the year libshits went insane.
>>202034967The vote was against Laenor though
>>202034967Aenys's line wasn't dispossessed, Jaehaerys was. Maegor himself made Aenys's granddaughter Aerea his formal heir until he had a son. But Aerea (and her mother Rhaena) were passed over because they were female. I think it makes perfect sense for the lords to vote against any precedent that allows daughters to inherit over sons, because it will inevitably be used by those daughters' husbands to lay claim to their in-law's family lands.
>>202034907>>not a single scene of Helaena and/or Jaehaera visiting the injured Aegoncan't let him have a functional family life
>>202034907In case you didn't realize. The men in this show are afterthoughts and memes.
>>202034098The rule of law means that a government is beheld to the laws of a country just like any other person, rather than being unaccountable tyrants who can make whatever decision serves their whim.
>>202035135The vote was against Laenor formally, but practically speaking it was a vote against Rhaenys since Laenor only had a claim as Rhaenys's son.
>>202034918So you think some small folk is ever out tending their sheep and then a dragon just comes along and drops its huge dragon shit on them? Could shit of that mass traveling at the rate of acceleration could kill a man?
>>202035136That doesn’t set any precedent. The oldest child’s heir has always taken precedence, regardless of gender.
>>202034672>>202034750>>202034809they said they didn't kill laenor because they didn't wanna do bury your gays, but they bashed another faggots face in like a couple episodes prior. real reason is having rhaenyra kill her husband at his sister's funeral while still being cordial with the parents of both would make her seem like too much of a piece of shit
>>202035293>>202034918Do they make dragon shit fertilizer?
this is now George's best quote>No matter how major a writer it is, no matter how great the book, there always seems to be someone on hand who thinks he can do better, eager to take the story and “improve” on it. They never make it better, though. Nine hundred ninety-nine times out of a thousand, they make it worse
>>202035358I'll happily read that quote out loud while pissing on the fat fuck's grave after someone else finished to write his magnum opus.
>>202035335If they don’t it would be stupid.
>>202035420It is known
>>202034642Does Andal Law actually matter to the lords at this point? Anyone still in power at this times ancestors bent the knee during the invasion and then kept loyal to the Targs for the next century
>>202035323Maekar's son Daeron had a daughter who should have been the heir to the Iron Throne as per your understanding, but she was passed over for Maekar's second son Aerys instead. Likewise Aegon was Aenys's eldest son (and Rhaena was his eldest child), but Aegon and Rhaena's daughters were passed over because they were female. Viserys I took the throne ahead of Aegon III's living daughters.
>>202035454The Targs techincally "andalized"They adopted heraldry like WesterosiThey (nominally at least) adopted the Faith of the SevenThe book of laws of Jaeherys was a compilation of Andal law
What's your house sigil, /got/?
>>202035358he just gave us a quote for every millenial/zoomer writer trying to ruin classic franchises
>>202035507Rhaegel had a living daughter as well, and she was passed over after Aerys's death and Maekar was crowned
>>202035454Yes because they are not fucking dornish. See the Stokeworth and Rosby case where Rhaenyra doesn't hesitate to fuck over her fellow women, since she is the exception to the rule.
>>202035454Andal law is what governs the Targ monarchy. The Targs converted to the Andal faith, followed the Andal chivalric traditions, really the only Valyrian thing they kept was the incest. Some of them were really into the Faith as well, not just for political reasons - Baelor I was such a believer that he's practically a saint in the Faith
>>202035420It would be much more interesting if Season 2 had Rhaenyra and Alicent being unapologetically the two players in "the game of thrones" instead of these two wenches that bemoan and get pushed around by men before meekly protesting the war they're the center of before reluctantly going "ahhh nooo we gotta fight anywaaaaaay" during the ending. They're the main characters to the point Aegon, Aemond and Daemon are smothered and yet they're so fucking boring, unmotivated and spineless. Should have been Daenerys vs Olenna tyrell.
Why do pajeets worship the Targaryens?
>>202035508>>202035545>>202035561Huh. From the show I always just assumed it was more Norman invasion style top down culture conversion deal
>>202035588Don't insult the essosi like that.....>>202035585Too late. Wishful thinking at this point.
>>202035328Why would they whitewash her when she was a piece of shit?They could have focused on Alicent if they want a sympathetic female character, she’s more compelling anyway.
>>202035612The Normans were a mass invasion. The Targs were just three siblings, who could be assassinated or subject to constant riots and revolts if they didn't have popular appeal. So they had to Andalize themselves heavily.
>>202035510Probably something edgy like a cross COA with a knight's helmet in the first and fourth quarters, and a sword & shield in the second and third.
>>202035612In Fire & Blood they make a big deal to mention that Aegon wanted to present himself as another Andal king.He unfurled his banner, a custom that the Targs didn't practice.In Oldtown he formally converted to the Faith of the Seven and was crowned and annointed with sacred oils by the High Septon.Visenya formed the Kingsguard, and they chose the number seven for a religious reason.And during Aegon's life, no incest marriage happened, not even incest bethrothals.
>>202035704>And during Aegon's life, no incest marriage happenedDidn't he fuck both his sisters regularly
>>202033197Shut up, you retards are annoying.
>>202033197Damn this raises some good points
>>202035507Aegon V’s ascension was done via Great Council and therefore resets the succession; Maekar’s daughter was seen as incapable as she was slow and had mental issues. Aegon the Uncrowned’s daughters were passed over because Jaehaerys took the throne at the behest of a coalition of most of the major Lords in the kingdom and a large army. Viserys II came to the throne due to the precedent set by the Great Council of 101 that the throne can only pass through male lines.
>>202034827kek
>>202035763Yeah but they mention that the Faith didn't make a huge deal out of it (beyond some grumbling) because Aegon had already married both his sisters and consummated the marriages before he conquered Westeros, so it was a done deal from their perspective. But they were heavily against new incest marriages and there was a mass uprising when Aegon's grandson and granddaughter married.
>>202035827Daeron’s daughter*
>>202035763No new marriage I meant.When Aegon's first granddaughter Rhaena was born, Visenya said they should marry her to Maegor, the High Septon (and Rhaena's parents) objected and Aegon listened to them.
>>202035861Would Bobby be angry at the cucking or happy his BFF is in love and he no longer has to fuck her?
this guy is a massive cunt
>>202033306the red keep will get totalled and Bran will elect Harrenhal as his seat and rule for the Isle of Faces yes.
>>202035827If the great council of 101 set the precedent that the throne can only pass through male lines, why was Jacaerys Rhaenyra's heir? He was a descendant through the female line, and his name was Velaryon. Shouldn't Aegon II have been Rhaenyra's heir then?
>>202035861Was wondering how that was going
Honestly wondering : In the show universe ; If Aegon snuck onto dragonstone and went before Rhaenyra and asked for clemency how would she react ?
>>202035959they would capture him and parade him through the city before killing him with rocks
>>202035959If he did it before his coronation on the way to Essos he'd be fine. But at this point the only person retarded enough to think that was an option is Alicent.
>>202035959She would spend three episodes asking her council and Jace what she should do, Aegon would get exasperated and go back to KL
>>202035946That’s not the precent that the Great Council sets. Jace was Rhaenyra’s heir because he was her oldest male child. Whatever House the father is part of has no bearing on that.
>>202035773>yasssssssss queeeeeeeeen!!!!!!!!!danyfags are pathetic she is such a boring character
>>202035510Black figures hanging from a tree on a white field.House words: "Valeryions Go Home"
>>202035335How the fuck was Ned so confident in his understanding of genetics that he was willing to commit an act or treason over it?
>>202035959>I'm sorry My Queen.>WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE NE DO!?
>>202036028lol
>>202032858>the Stark kids all descend from AemondHuh? Also, I don't think Jon's going to get a dragon in the books. A resurrected secret prince Lord Commander skin changer with an albino direwolf, a valyrian long sword, and a fucking dragon is just too over the top. Young Griff needs one for the Dance and if the Night King took elements from Book Euron like I think he did it might be >Dany/Drogon>Aegon/Rhaegal>Euron/Viserion
>>202035959She'd kill him and the AH AH AH AH AHHHHH AH AH song would be playing and then Baela and Rhaena would nod their heads saying "Das riiiiite yaaaaaas qweeeen" while Jace seethes in the back because he is male and all males want is war
>>202036079He was reading a book that covered 300 years of recorded Baratheon genetics, so he had some sources to cite
>>202036079It really is stupid. His own nephew is proof that seed isn't necessarily always strong.
>>202036028It's so funny that they try to make her appear competent while she is anything but.That's how you know actual women wrote the show; they try to make rhaenyra look in charge, except women IRL have no idea what the fuck they are doing and therefore they make rhaenyra act like the woman that they, the writers, are.
>>202035946Arguing precedent based on a one off event that only took place due to the rules kingom is nonsense to start with, but just like in real life like in the US courts even when "precedent" is set, it's only respected until those in power decide to change it, and then we have new "precedent". TLDR; Precedent and laws are all bullshit if you want them to be
>>202036079Aren't the Baratheons descended from bastard Targaryens and remarried into the dynasty repeatedly? Where does the brown hair even come from its that strong?
>>202034039How'd this Hess lady get a lead writer role on this show if her writing is fan-fiction tier
>>202036150Targs genes are recessive and weak whereas every single time a Lannister (if not any house) got impregnated by a Baratheon the kid had black hair.
>>202036079The Seed is strongAnd Durran Godsgrief demanded that every member of his lineage must have black hair>>202036121It's a theory that claims Aemond and Alys's kid who was running arround Harrenhall is an ancestor of Catelyn Stark. Lothston into Whent.Theory aside, Catelyn Stark does have some interesting ancestry, her mother being a Whent
>>202036198Black hair is a dominant gene but wasn't the theory that Orys is a product of Aegon's father fucking a bride on her wedding night?
>>202036234>And Durran Godsgrief demanded that every member of his lineage must have black hairwhy?
>>202036198Orys Baratheon was widely believed to be a bastard half-brother of Aegon with the same father, yes. But he had black hair and all of his Baratheon descendants had black hair too.
>>202036215same way baela and rhaena's actresses got cast she's a gay minority
>>202036258I was just memeing, but it's very likely a Durrandon magic bloodline thing, not a Baratheon one
>>202036121>too over the topJon is the fucking chosen one, has been since AGOT. He literally is the Song.I wonder if Ghost will die in the books or not. Jon will probably be inside him while his real body is dead, but I have no idea if he'll experience death a second time through his wolf or not.
Ain't Baratheons considered pretty much black haired targs due to the intermarriage and them starting as a bastard house?
>>202036234Hmm, I see, but would a literal bastard's bastard marry into the Lothstons? Interesting idea though, I haven't heard it before. I wonder how the Aemond Alys thing is going to play out in the show.
>>202036198I thought it came from the durrandon side but that’s not made explicit anywhere. Instead seems like it came from whoever Orys’ mother was.
>>202032736Dis nigga Jace man kek
>>202036325Sure but he's not like Rhaegar tier over the top yet. I don't think it's like GRRM to have a chosen savior fix everything. Jon's parents being revealed only drove Dany insane in the show but he didn't really even defeat the Night King
>>202036121A second Dance happening and the Dragon having three heads is exactly why I believe the dragon to get wight'd will be none of Dany's.Cannibal, if still alive, would be absolutely monstrous in size so it would work very well.Alternatively it could be Vhagar's skeleton if the Others reach as far as the God's Eye.But if a dragon has to die beyond or close to the wall, I think it being Cannibal makes sense; Skagos is very close, much more so than Dragonstone, and Bran skinchanging inside it would explain a dragon not being afraid to pass the Wall.And zombie dragon WILL happen because that's just way too cool of an idea for Dumb&Dumber to come up with.
>>202036349>wonder how the Aemond Alys thing is going to play out in the show.It won't kek
>>202036003>>202036023But what if he asked really nicely?I dont know if show nyra has it in her >>202036125Ok yeah probably this t bh >>202036028and pass up on being a girlboss? probably not
>>202036590Need sauce
>>202035959>I HAVE NO CHOICE AEGON>I'M POWERLESS>WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE ME DO?>I HAVE TO KILL YOU>*looks into the camera* I WISH TO BE MORAL AND SPARE YOU BUT I MUST KILL YOU>I CAN'T MAKE HARD DECISIONS!>WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE ME DO!??!?>I-I have decided to be merciful and spare you life....>I am a merciful and just female ruler>*looks into camera, winks*>AEGON, WATCH OUT SYRAX IS GOING OUT OF CONTROL>I CAN'T STOP HIM AEGON WATCH OUUUUT>Alas he is dead... and I will take the blame... must I bear this to!?!
>>202036125>>202036003>>202036023>she'd kill himmanner of execution ? Sat on
>>202036379But for it to be 300 years of black haired, blue eyed, physically big Baratheons it has to be one of those magical bloodlines
>>202032596Can someone PERFORM A BLOOD SACRIFICE so that Nintendo makes this game?
>>202036633>>AEGON, WATCH OUT SYRAX IS GOING OUT OF CONTROL>>I CAN'T STOP HIM AEGON WATCH OUUUUTThat would be such an "It's fine when a mulatto femoid does it" moment it wouldn't even be funny
>>202036633>MY LEAL LORDS WILL AVENGE ME SISTER
>>202036680I can picture it as Fire Emblem Fates.A Black victory storyA Green victory storyA Self Insert victory story
>>202036542>And zombie dragon WILL happen because that's just way too cool of an idea for Dumb&Dumber to come up with.it's a complete hack idea, wall will get brought down by Euron with a controlled dragon
>>202034078Not on Sara Hess' watch
>>202036616Its not porn sorry to disappoint you, anon
>>202035336so I’m coping for what? because I don’t buy your erotic fanfic where Jon rips Dany’s bodice?you truly have to be a showatcher if you don’t understand how the 2 were thrust together because Faegon got cut. what would i be coping for anyway? I have no attachment to where these characters will never end up in the books that won’t ever be finished. Simply stating 50,000th “muh sekrit heritage” theory copypasted onto Dany makes no sense.It’s far more devastating to her to see young griff, who may or may not even be real, get a better reception and more legitimacy than Dany, who is the real deal. that would be what might break her.not whatever, “Jon so mean and angry now, we must have sex then get delivered the bad news by Maury Povich right when we’re about to get married” scenario you clearly slap your flaps to each time you type it out.
>>202036784Damn, surprised there’s no HotD porn yet (that I know of)
>>202036771Or Three Houses, yes. I was thinking about it earlier. I think the protagonist should be either Aemond or Daemon according to which route you choose, and ultimately end with the God's Eye duel and perhaps a different outcome depending on which you are.
>>202033200cry moar. Old was just being himself
>>202036778I doubt a dragon will bring down the wall. More like blowing the horn itself is what does it.But the Others wouldn't be much of a challenge without having a dragon themselves I think. We'll probably see actual spiders and wight giants, too.
>>202033297God I love Aemond
>>202036633>has her moralfag cake and eats it toobrave
>>202036665it could be, or just sloppy writing. If we go with the mythic origin story of the durrandons marrying the daughter of “the storm god,” that would make it lean toward insuring black hair from that side of the Baratheon line.
I feel like the Almond vs Daemon fight is going to end up looking super cheap like when Rhaenys fell to the ground and it looked like a 1980s straight to TV movie
>>202036125too bloodthirsty and mean, she'd get blood on her hands and that's not okay. She'd forgive him and then a chandelier would fall on him, killing him. She'd start crying "poor Aegon..." and then look at the camera and say "WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE HAD ME DO?!"
>>202036665>>202036994it's just a plot device
>>202036810There’s one lady that does VR scenes. She has one with Rhaenyra.
Jacebros...we survive another season . But is it even going to be worth it?
>>202037003Oh its going to be terrible. Even a good CGI production would struggle with a guy ninja leaping of a dragon with a sword to impale someone never mind this
>>202036824MC as a dragonseed, maybe?I always thought Rhaenyra and the gang were lucky none of Saera's bastards by powerful men came looking for a dragon.Like the one who's father was a Triarch of Volantis, imagine that guy with Vermithor.
It would be funny if Elinda got found and gets the Ros treatment
>>202037093they should invite zack snyder in just to film that one scene in slo-mo and nothing else
>>202036778It’s funny, I had the opposite reaction when it happened. I thought it had to be d&d because it was the laziest and fastest way to resolve the “how do they pass the magic wall?” tension from the very beginning of the story. and that was confirmed when it went nowhere had no actual impact on the story during the battle of Winterfell. Think about it, the inclusion of the zombie dragon literally had no impact, other than to keep the dragons busy (another unresolved question) for a few hours. It was just a cool bit for the promos
>>202037128>zack snyder>not Michael Bay
>>202034159Yeah then she tells her nuncle, that it’s just a book and you are just a part of it. Like saying ‘let’s get this shit over with’
>>202037169>>202037169>>202037169NEW
>>202037125She'll probably be holding court for Gaemon Palehair, if he's not cut
>>202037003It’s already ruined because daemon sucks now
>>202036036Only thing more pathetic are you retards bullshit essay theories.
>>202036803>doomcuckYou sure seem to get passionate arguing about characters you don't care about in a book series that will never be finished.>It’s far more devastating to her to see young griff, who may or may not even be real, get a better reception and more legitimacy than Dany, who is the real deal. that would be what might break her.You do realize it's exactly the same thing, right? They are most likely the three heads of the dragon so having parallels between all three of them makes complete sense. Having Dany be fake and Aegon be real serves exactly the same purpose as what you said.Still doesn't invalidate the obvious storytelling of having Jon and Dany fall in love with each other. I didn't say she'd go crazy because JON in particular is legitimate. I said it mirrors them.Jon thought he was illegitimate for his entire life while in truth he isn'tDany thought she was legit for her entire life while in truth she isn't. That's what I'm saying.
>>202037327How does it feel to simp for an entitled female who isn't even real
>>202037416How does it feel to write essays about how much you hate a female that isn’t real chud?
>>202032925LOL!!!!
>>202037487You can admit a character is evil without hating them lmaoWho doesn't love Euron?
>>202037066I don't think so. I don't expect anything good from these writers and they completely ruined his character in the latest episodes. He'll die probably at the first episode of the third season and they'll make it seem as if it was his own fault.
>>202037631>without hating themBut you clearly do.
>>202034102if jon was never born and got lost beyond the wall dany would never have had to go past the wall to save him and lose a dragon, which is what allowed the night king to destroy the wall. The long night only happened because of jon/dany, and then arya solved it. You can hate this, but this is show canon upon which hotd is founded.
>>202038113Wasn’t that dumbass idea to go beyond the wall Tyrions?
