David Foster Wallace's final essay lamented that we should be in a sincere society that champions excellence instead of irony and ridicule. "So bad it's good" culture that has been popularized by things like RLM, Sam Hyde, and Vinegar Syndrome, is an insult to his memory. It is one of the tactics they use to demoralize a population.>"Go ahead and consume these terrible movies, it's the cool 'in' thing to do.>"You want to show off your superiority don't you? You're a special boy better than these bad movies. People who make non-Hollywood outsider art deserves ridicule!">"There is no such thing as quality anyway, there is no right or wrong, so you must embrace mediocrity for the good of all."
>>204225066Insincerity exists to protect a fragile ego. If you never do anything in earnest, you can never be mocked for doing something cringe.
>be DFW>turn on TV in late 90s>"Is that...? Seinfeld...? Why isn't he taking life seriously?! Nooo this can't be happening! I'm going insaaane!>kills himself
>>204225116says a lot about the trans identity
>>204225066Sam Hyde has said nearly all of this post word for word and explicitly hates "so bad it's good" movies.
>>204225066Watching The Room with a bunch of bros is fun. I don't care about some author's legacy kek
>>204225121LMFAO
>>204225167actually it's not fun and it's demoralization, you're being brainwashed by jews into thinking you're having fun with you're friends.
>>204225165it’s how i know not to take these threads seriously even though i agree with the sentiment sam hyde is harmless unless you’re a troon
>>204225167You might feel like you're having fun, but are you really?
>>204225220jews have nothing to do with it
>>204225066He wrote that essay in the 90s and necked himself in 2008 you retard. I doubt you've even read him.
>>204225220kek
>>204225165Sam Hyde literally makes "so bad it's good" content. See Fish Tank and almost all of MDE
>>204225379sam hyde is edgyfish tank is just a cash cow stream grift
>watching End of the Tour>DFW looks right into the camera >"If your primary sexual relationship is with your own hand something is wrong">winksGoddammit
SHARE YOUR BLU-RAY WISHLIST FROM VINEGAR SYNDROME, SCREAMFACTORY AND SUCH.(AMERICAN SLASHERS)> Blood Tracks (1985)Slasher on a snowy mountain.> Iced (1988)Snowy slasher with the original Wednesday Adams full frontal nude.- https://othercrap.com/special-request-lisa-loring-in-iced-1988/- https://othercrap.com/r-i-p-lisa-loring-the-original-wednesday-addams/> Island of Blood / Scared Alive / Whodunit? (1982)Tropical island setting.> Silent Night, Bloody Night (1972)Gothic proto-slasher.- https://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/Hysteria/silent_night_bloody_night.html- http://1000misspenthours.com/reviews/reviewsn-z/silentnightbloodynight.htm(FOREIGN SLASHERS)Austrian> Dead in 3 Days (2006)https://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/Hysteria/dead_in_3_days.htm> Dead in 3 Days 2 (2008)Finnish> Tuomion Saari / The Island of Doom (2023)https://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/Hysteria/island_of_doom.htmGerman> School's Out (1999)https://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/Hysteria/schools_out.htm> School's Out 2 (2001)https://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/Hysteria/schools_out_2.htmHongKong> Devil Returns (1982)https://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/Hysteria/devil_returns.htmMexican> La Muerte Del Chacal / The Death of the Jackal (1983)https://a-slash-above.com/2015/11/07/la-muerte-del-chacal-review-1983/South Korean> Bloody Beach (2000)https://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/Hysteria/bloodybeach.htm> The Record (2000)> 4 Days (2008)Only ever released on DVD in Japan - https://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/Hysteria/4days.htmTaiwanese> Killing 7 (2013)https://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/Hysteria/killing_7.htm
>>204225162no it doesn't, retard.
>>204225690(OTHER HORROR)> Barracuda (1978)> Claws / Devil Bear (1977)> Count Dracula (1977 BBC)Louis Jourdan (Octopussy) as Drac.> Dragon Blue (1996)Mystical Japanese Gillman & zombie movie.> Frankenstein (1973)http://1000misspenthours.com/reviews/reviewse-g/frankenstein1973.htm> Frankenstein (1984)With Carrie Fisher - http://1000misspenthours.com/reviews/reviewse-g/frankenstein1984.htm> Half Human (1955)Ishirō Honda directed Yeti movie, original cut has never been released by Toho do to offensive Burakumin presentation in the film. Just slap a god damn trigger warning before the film & bloody release it. I wanna see how it compares to Hammer's fantastic The Abominable Snowman.> Lifeform / Invader (1996)Very cool alien design, crap ending.> Man Beast (1956)> Night Creature (1978)Donald Pleasence playing Ahab/Quint against a killer Panther.> Project - Metal Beast (1995)Unique sci-fi metal skinned werewolf movie.> Ringu - KanzenBan / Ring - The Complete Edition (More faithful to novel 1995 Tv movie adaptation before the iconic 98 film)> The Ring Virus (1999 Korean remake of 98 Ringu)> 1999 TV Series: Ring - The Final Chapter & Rasen> The Deathhead Virgin (1974)Nautical ghost story with a masked nude aquatic female killer.> The Intruder Within (1981)Monster on a oil rig film with a solid creature design that sadly doesn't get enough screen time.> The Keep (1983) - Original 210 minute cut!> The Snow Creature (1954)> Vampire (1979)http://1000misspenthours.com/reviews/reviewsn-z/vampire1979.htm
>>204225718>>204225690(OTHER)> The 2 Sci-Fi Channel Dune tv series (2000-2003)> Roswell Conspiracies - Aliens, Myths & Legends (1999-2000)> The 1995 Ultraforce animated series.> The Mysterious Island (1929)http://1000misspenthours.com/reviews/reviewsh-m/mysteriousisland1929.htmSoviet space operas!> Planet of Storms (1962)http://1000misspenthours.com/reviews/reviewsn-z/planetofstorms.htm> Road to the Stars (1957)> The Heavens Call (1959)http://1000misspenthours.com/reviews/reviewsh-m/heavenscall.htm(NUDITY)> Fair Game (1994)Lena Headey (GOT-Cersi) full frontal nude skinny dipping - https://www.aznude.com/mrskin/lenaheadey/fairgame/headey-fairgame1-hi.html> Lady Beware (1987)Diane Lane - https://images2.imgbox.com/f8/f8/VfuQHsMI_o.jpg> Nickel Mountain (1984)Heather Langenkamp's only topless scene - https://images2.imgbox.com/5f/29/u28VOojg_o.jpg> Raven Hawk (1995)Rachel McLish quasi nude.> Thunder Alley (1985)Melanie Kinnaman (same year she was in F13-P5)
>>204225701dial 8 freak
>is that some obscure 70s movie that was critically and commercially panned and no normal person has ever even heard of????>OMG MUST CONSOOMVinegar Syndrome has never released a good movie and they exist purely to milk consoomerist retards. The same type of "people" who buy funko pops.
>>204225690>>204225718>>204225752(UNRELEASED PROJECTS)> Black Water Transit (2009)Unfinished crime film from the director of American History X with Karl Urban, Laurence Fishburne & Stephen Dorff.Brittany Snow (X, Prom Night) said in a interview she spent the majority of the film naked.> Boston's Finest (2010)Katee Sackhoff police pilot.> Lost & Found (2009)Another Sackhoff police pilot.> Occult (2015)Supernatural mystery pilot with Lynn Collins & Josh Lucas from the director of Reign of Fire & the 1st X-Files movie.> HBO's Open (2014)Lesbian sex drama pilot with Anna Torv, Jaimie Alexander & Michelle Monaghan.> Poor Richard's Almanack (2016)From Neil Marshall with Lynn Collins.> Ridley Scott's The Vatican (2013) with Rebecca Ferguson(DOCUMENTARIES)> Chernobyl - Chronicle of Difficult Weeks (1988)Good quality with captions here -Filmmaker died the next year from radiation (RIP)> Great Planes / Wings- https://youtu.be/BvdtHRcTBXI- https://youtu.be/MR2F677wYm0I want all versions released but especially the originals (Some re-airings have changed the narrator, music, editing & added crap CGI)> The World's Deadliest Sea Creatures (1998)Never released on VHS or DVD - https://youtu.be/Js3q-sbwbtA
>>204225690>>204225718>>204225752>>204225814What kind of shill spam is this?
>>204225066He's not wrong
>>204225806>>204225838Fuck you pic related is good.
>>204225846when you have no social skills even among autists and crave negative attention as a defense mechanism
Same guy wrote infinite jest, most insincere and ironic book ever written.
>>204226028how so
>>204226075Sincerity is by definition supposed to be direct. Infinite Jest entire structure is built on obfuscation, formal tricks like intertextual quotation or incongruous juxtaposition.
>>204226231Isn't is more about a sincere attempt to entertain maximally without which we get dishonest filmmaking as a crutch for novelty and surprise.
>>204225066>champions excellencedid he define what this meant?
>>204225066He killed himself so nothing he said ever mattered.
>>204226435>>204226383Bump
>>204225162>>204225770Trannies mostly make sincere and earnest garbage that is cringe because it's saccharine bullshit. Even the People's Joker, which is ironic on its face, is a very sincere and earnest exploration of tranny shit.
>>204225121spbp
boutique label connoisseurs are sincere in their hobby and appreciation you fucking retard. you can't lump that whole sub culture in with the mainstreamification of an epiphenomenon like The Room
>>204225066The worst part of "so bad it's good" being such a popular refrain is that no one can any longer process the concept of someone genuinely liking something that isn't considered "good" by the cultural hivemind.>Mortal Kombat (1995) is a good movie.>You mean "so bad it's good," right?>No, I mean I enjoy watching it.>I get it, I love watching it, too. It's so bad it's good! I'm with you, anon!>No, I don't think it's a bad movie at all. It's a GOOD movie that I ENJOY watching, it's not ironic.>If you like a bad movie, it has to be because it's SO bad it's good. There's no reason to be a contrarian and call it good when everyone knows it's bad.It's very frustrating. No on can just hold or discuss genuine opinions any more.
They should release youtube video essays on dvd.
>>204227593When I was a kid we had Batman Forever on VHS and it had a trailer for Mortal Kombat on it, it got me so pumpedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHIfHL5UgFs
Wallace was a TV junkie himself. if he'd had the developed culture and social coummunities available now to celebrate his interests with others rather than penitently flagellating himself in judgmental neurotic isolation maybe he wouldn't have been so miserable to off himself
>>204226383Pic related. If you're still confused, ask your ESL teacher on Monday.
>>204227673I had the soundtrack as a kid. Very kino to blast when I had the house to myself
>>204227593people like OP don't get it no but revelry in 'camp' is very in vogue throughout culture at large right now
Is TJ really sad and why?
>>204225690It's this autist again. No one cares about ghost dancing. Your wishlist is terrible. You deserve death.
>>204227940Who is TJ? Are you a bot?
>>204225066VS isn’t “so bad it’s good” thoughThe remaster older /low budget / forgotten / non mainstream films so modern audiences may enjoy them>bbbbut it’s not a 200 million dollar Hollywood blockbuster about superheroes!!$ YOU ONLY LIKE IT IRONICALLYLol…absolute state of you
>>204225220Some of the most fun I've ever had with my friends is when we were just acting stoopid and getting drunk together. We're all university educated professionals. Most of us have wives and children. But we don't spend our time off debating philosophy, religion, or the nature of current politics. We could certainly do that, but we'd rather get druk and make jokes about farts and people we don't like.
>>204227968 I thought I was on a /ftl/ thread sorry lol
>>204225121lol
>>204227593Have you ever really had this conversation? Who are you quoting? You aren't just making up arguments in your mind again are you?
>>204227593So true, it is almost as if there is no 'good' anymore. They don't even know.
>>204225066>is an insult to his memoryi don't know who this guy is and i don't care and i don't know anyone who cares
>>204228136>Have you ever really had this conversation?Yes.>Who are you quoting?Directly? My older brother. But I've encountered the overall sentiment a lot in general.
>>204225066Sam here, what's up fella? I'll give you the joker prison experience
>>204225066I'll enjoy whatever I want to enjoy, and you can go fuck yourself. Thanks.
>>204225066You keep calling these old, low budget movies terrible, but nine times out of ten they're pretty honestly made which always resonates with people and is a stark contrast to modern productions.>>204225121That's a shame...
>>204227965I got my movie.Cope bitch.
>>204225066>"So bad it's good" culture that has been popularized by things like RLM, Sam Hyde, and Vinegar SyndromeOh you sweet summer child. Watching cheesy movies to laugh at them is *way* older than that. What do you think MST3K was? Or even (Son of) Svengoolie, Joe Bob Briggs, and Elvira? And that's a line that goes all the way back to the OG hosted horror shows of the 1950s like Vampira and Shock Theater.
>>204225066There are very few "so bad they're good" movies anyways so it hardly mattersTroll 2Plan 9Samurai CopThe Roommaybe some others but really most "bad movies' are just boring so they aren't enjoyable to watch or they are perfectly fine movies with some funny "bad special effects"
>>204225066Honest truth
>>204225066So what did Vinegar Syndrome do exactly that has gotten someone so asshurt that the dipshit now feels compelled to create countless thinly veiled threads just to whine about them?
>>204227737>to act as militant supporter of the quality of being very good????no wonder the dude killed himself since he was a wimp
>>204229166Someone exposed that he's a poorfag who couldnt afford to buy them.
>>204225066Imagine if he made it to 2024. He'd be a ranting schitzo promoting some bullshit ideology. Rabid leftie shilling for literal terror organizations, rabid righty shilling for maga or a woman.
>>204225265I posted about this last night too but if you read the pale king you can see where it starts to go off the tracks and he is fucking miserable and thinks he's a big retard who sucks at writing.
Actually Sam Hyde is sincere core. You just don’t get it.
>>204230035He was kind of a waspy chud
>>204230249Exactly, all three paths are equally possible.
>>204225066David Foster Wallace's entire world view was fallacious, which he finally acknowledged himself and rectified by his suicide. His "teachings" hold about as much weight as Jordan Peterson's ones after he got addicted to downers. They are both bitches.
DFW should've just gone on The Simpsons like the Pynchmeister did
>>204225066I don't think having a low budget and using unconventional filmmaking styles means that the movies are bad. I find a lot of stuff Vinegar Syndrome offers to be very creative and endearing. Even the ones that are genuinely badly made often have some value as historical curiosities.
>before your mom died she told me to tell you ching chong ching chang chong
>>204225066If a movie is "do bad its good" then why its entertaining. A bad movie is bad because is boring. If a movie, even a low budget one, entertain you, then its just good.
>>204230035he would be woke 100 percent. he cared too much about his academic reputation to be otherwise
>>204230126I agree with that point but my point was E Pluribus Unum is not his final essay and OP clearly has not read it. His issue was ironic media not people enjoying crap because of something being so bad it becomes funny.
>>204229166I assume it's the same schizo that posts the anti-physical media thread every 48 hours. Just some loon that is eternally butthurt that other people buy things they enjoy.
>>204227593I feel the same way about Street Fighter (1994). I like it for what it is. Unironically. I have since I was a kid.
>>204230388They had an episode named after his short story collection, so he might have gotten around to it at some point
>>204230388I named my first cat Ruggles (Tommy's middle name). He died of cat AIDS when he was only 3. He was the coolest fucking cat. He'd have been like 10 now ;_;
>>204228015damn dude, why not both? dialectics with the boys is one of life's greatest pleasures
>>204225066>is an insult to his memoryI don't like David Foster Wallace so I'm just going to keep on doing what I'm doing. Telling people how to enjoy art or media"properly" is pretentious as shit
>>204230337>His "teachings" hold about as much weight as Jordan Peterson's ones after he got addicted to downers. They are both bitchesJordan Peterson is a Jungian psychologist anon , him getting addicted to downers doesn't somehow invalidate his understanding of human behavior
>>204225121*slap bass starts playing*
>>204225066I unironically enjoy a a few of their releases
>>204225121A show about NOTHING>kills self
