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what did you think of the last episode
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i don't know yet
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>>204712367
Wanted it to keep going, those credits camd too soon like I do when ms giganti
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>>204712367
track id for oz and vic's trip thru the abandoned tunnel?
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Why did Carmine let his son get so soft and fuck around for ten years?

>locks Sofia in Arkham for asking about her mom and murdered women
>does nothing to his son who clearly knew what Sofia said about all this and was trying to get her out

I get he was kind of a dumbass and drug addict but if anything that makes him MORE of a liability, no?
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Oz will kill the Black Stutter trust the plan
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>>204712518
Carmine hates women. Not in the woke sense, I mean he strangled like a dozen of them
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This was Penguins best suit

Like a fat Tony Montana
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>>204712367
>>204712462
I want the soundtrack for when the penguin rolls up. It's a great villain theme
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>>204712462
Seconding this
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>>204712462
https://www.tunefind.com/show/the-penguin/season-1/258405
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>>204712541
Agreed
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>>204712538
I don’t think he hates them, I think he’s just severely mentally ill about them

He genuinely loved his daughter and legit wanted her to take over. But as soon as he didn’t “trust” her 100% she had to be broken

He also literally murdered TWO women who were mothers of his children, and then tried to strangle his daughter in the batman movie

Seems more like a genuine serial killer pathology where he’s in denial about it and can usually restrict it to more disposable women, his wife was with him for years after all

She probably just found out about some affairs or the other murders, he didn’t trust her totally and it set him off. Then he regretted it

Also makes the “always wears sunglasses” trait interesting, like he doesn’t like being looked in the eyes and judged
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>>204712576
anon delivers. thank you
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>>204712367
This is the first episode that felt a little weak to me. I enjoyed it overall, but I thought Sal being able to escape prison off screen just because he got his hands on a set of keys wasn't believable. Same with his wife being oblivious to her son reeking of gasoline, while her goons that outnumbered Oz and the black dude 3 to 1 got wiped out even with the element of surprise.
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>>204712462
>Zoomer doesn't know
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He had her as his patient for TEN YEARS and didn’t fuck her once?

Not even a sneaky fondle when she was sedated?

Must have cum in his pants in this moment
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Has Gotham ever been portrayed as the worst place in earth like this show in the comics?
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>>204712652
Constantly
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Pengybros can't stop guinning
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>>204712633
yeah, it's lame when they have to resort to this action scenes where the main character always wins
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>>204712639
kys gatekeeper
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If you marry her, she'll just finger your asshole till you can hear colors
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>>204712652
It's literally been portrayed as having a demon be the reason why it's so awful
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>>204712555
Yeah for sure. I want this too
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Vic's going to fucking die
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>>204712704
she was stunning in this episode, i love eyeliners
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>>204712697
>Gatekeeping bad
>Zoomie still didn't know a song that is quite famous
Not my fault you're retarded
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>>204712697
use shazam
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>>204712721
Penguin will kill vic
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>hmmmm, where is the safest place to take Oz’s mom?
>I know, the abandoned flooded district full of scummy criminals

Smart kid, leaving Gotham and just getting a hotel room in a neighbouring city would be too predictable
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Daily reminder that all you are watching is a guy in a costume. It's not deep, and it ruins future film and television. Good luck getting anything greenlit when movie producers say "But why can't we attach this concept to a guy who dresses like a goblin and terrorizes people?"

YOU created this world anon. None of you fucks are allowed to complain when you support a show like this.
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>>204712367
I'm annoyed that Oz went into an obvious trap. I'm annoyed that this trap consisted only of two extra men. I'm annoyed that Sal just walked out of prison and no one tried to stop him. I'm annoyed that the Falcone father really is the killer, its lame. I'm annoyed that Viti wasn't lying to Sofia about working with her and actually trusted her like an idiot.
The first two episodes were great but the bad writing has just been piling up.
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>>204712538
>>204712587
It probably started with his wife.
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>Sofia is smarter than oz
>Sofia has more money than oz
>Sofia is more liked by vic than oz
Penguinbros....I think our luck has run out...
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>>204712746
>Viti wasn't lying to Sofia
He was, she just didn't give him time
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>>204712763
we've lost to the best
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>Sofia Falcone
This is a loose adaptation of The Long Halloween isn't it? It was Halloween during The Batman and they're releasing it in October
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>>204712796
No.
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>>204712728
>implying
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>>204712772
Then he is an idiot for not shooting Sofia the minute he was free. Why gather the underlings if not to kill Sofia? What did he have to gain by letting the underlings think Sofia would be in charge?
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>>204712817
Don't gotta be rude
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>>204712555
>>204712662
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>>204712828
How the fuck should I know faggot
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I wish this show didn't have the blatant TVisms like shit music and shaky cam during dialogue scenes.
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>>204712842
NTA but when he rolls up to kill tiktok and raspy mommy
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>>204712843
If thats your answer then maybe you can admit its bad writing.
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>>204712730
the shaq movie?
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>>204712743
>support
don't worry anon I don't pay for anything
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>>204712650
>Must have cum in his pants in this moment
I did too
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>>204712746
>Falcone father really is the killer, its lame
yeah that really made Sofia less interesting
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>>204712367
All I want is a Riddler appearance even for 0.05 seconds
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I wonder what it's like to kiss Sofia
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>>204712968
soft and yummy
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>>204712953
You really want paul dano to abstain from sex for another week?
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Somehow Sofia is more hot than she was in How I Met Your Mother
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5CrU-r55Yo thread theme
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>>204712990
A fate cruel enough to drive any man mad
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>>204712652
Gotham City is literally CURSED In the comics, about a dozen different ways too. That’s the reason it can never really get fixed or improved no matter what happens.

There’s a physical portal to hell in the basement of Arkham Asylum because Amadeus Arkham was an occult worshipping crazy man who designed the whole building to channel evil juju

The swamps on the outskirts of Gotham are infused with evil energies for some reason, Solomon Grundy was just some dude who died and fell in the swamp and it resurrected him as a giant zombie

During colonial times there was an evil sorcerer named who was imprisoned and buried alive in the area that would become the city and his evil magic warped the area, when he escaped he named himself Doctor Gotham in pride at his influence

Oh, and there’s a literal demon bat God named Barbatos infused into the city itself. that is the reason Batman exists

The entire state and balance of Batman and the Joker is literally some cursed eternal balance. Batman must exist and the joker must exist. Joker was implied to either be centuries old in some stories or at least that there were previous jokers who were basically identical for some reason.

So clearly it’s more the city conjuring these things, or at least the events to make people into them.

So in a way, Bruce’s parents were killed by the evil magic of Gotham in order to make him become Batman
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Imagine simping for a tranny who had a nosejob.
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>oz LIED about me

Huh? What did Oz say that was a lie about Sofia?

He never said she was the hangman, he just said she was talking to a journalist… which she was!
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>>204712650
Is that supposed to be Dr. Jonathan Crane?
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>the thing about penguins kid…
>they always live in the subway

What?
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Only thing i didnt like was how easy for Maroni to escape from blackgate. Yes, its fucking Gotham prison's are meaningless but it feels like a big plot convinience.

Oz scenes are great as always.
Viti's death was unexpected but i liked it. Goons grabbing bloody money was a kino scene.
Also at the end when generator blows up Oz should have said fuuuc- like the first episode.
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>kills the leadership of the crime family
>just renames it, pays the goons some cash (not even that much)
>all the goons join her new crime family
>all the goons are instantly simping flr her

this is unbelievable and retarded
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>>204713181
No, that’s Julian Rush.

Other than being a psychiatrist literally nothing he has done is anything remotely like scarecrow
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>>204713189
i thought that prison was maronis whole house, like every guard is paid off by him
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>>204712723
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>>204713192
How is it simping if she's the one giving them money?
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>>204713189
>Goons grabbing bloody money was a kino scene.
how fucking retarded is it to drop the money into a pool of blood?
now the DNA of that shmuck is all over the bills.
its all evidence for murder
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>>204713199
Thank you for the spoonfeed.
I haven't actually watched this show yet (I will I promise) I mostly click in to look at photos of the cute Italian lady.
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Slick move just burning a woman and her son alive
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>>204713211
literally nobody would follow that dumb mentally ill roastie that rejoined the family like 2 weeks ago and has zero crime experience.
in reality they would have murdered her too and the whole thing would have crumbled apart and the Moron family would stand alone against Oz
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>>204713192
Its kinda been established that Falcone goons aren't really loyal. Oz's crew is pretty much proof of that.
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>>204713215
no ones searching for dna on random dollar bills, I guess the goons just cleaned up the place after sofia left
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>>204712681
Penguinea is best guinea.
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>>204713257
the new boss is a crazy woman, who would be retarded enough to take part in that shit?
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>>204713237
>literally nobody would follow that dumb mentally ill roastie that rejoined the family like 2 weeks ago and has zero crime experience.
That would've been the case if she hadn't straight up confessed to gassing the entire Falcone estate and shooting the guy who publicly disagreed with her once. She made enough of a show of strength and promised enough for an average retard hench to a least wait and see.
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When is penguin gonna recruit killer croc now he’s in the sewers?

You’d need a huge nigger to play him and to put up with the scaly makeup
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>>204712681
If they're committing to making The Batman a trilogy, I think the second one should have Penguin unambiguously defeat Batman and get away with whatever his plot is.
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>>204713192
all the made men are dead
only goons left and they only do for money

its not that far fetched
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>>204713282
why would you trust someone that murdered their own family?
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>Hey kid, you feel that right?
>Its humid here,dark.
>You know what thrives in a place like this?
>Mu-muh-mushrooms?
>PENGUINS, kid!
>Now come here i'll show you how to strap a rocket to those slippery shits.
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>>204713310
I expected them to say that evil thrives there
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>>204712367
when the music started playing and Sofia walked out with full makeup and outfit i couldn’t fucking stop myself from grinning so stupidly.

Penguin’s gonna get what’s coming to ‘em.
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This probably isn't the thread for it but the director of Batman and producer for this show Matt Reeve had two other shows that were scrapped. One based in Arlham Asylum. And another about a corrupt GCPD officer. These were cancelled.

However James Gunn is meant to release season 2 of Peacemaker and a show about Waller staring Viola Davis. Ithink Batman 2 will get the same treatment as Joker 2 after MOGGing Gunn so hard
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>>204713303
>why would you trust someone that murdered their own family?
That's every Falcone. Every mafia, really. You're just trying to justify your sexism with logical arguments while there are none, because you think women are bad.
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I haven't hears that The Cure song in forever
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>>204713327
you do know that the penguin is never going to lose right
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>>204713192
The point is if you grab a stack then you're joining up
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>>204713341
Are they planning to make multiple seasons of this show? He might lose Season One if so.
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>>204713341
>Vic dies
>Sofia goes back to Arkham
>Penguin wins
Good tragedy kino
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>shit casting happening twice
gayyyyy
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>>204713279
To the average fuck you got mine minded goon all she hasn't killed anyone who mattered to them. If she keeps up killing her own crew then maybe they would reconsider but right now Sofia is offering them money and equal positions of power without the need for infighting. Why would they give a shit now if the money and operations are now under their control?
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I thought she was gonna be more pissed at Oz for killing her brother, almost like she forgot and only focused on the fact he betrayed her years ago
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>>204713310
>JESUS FUCKIN CHRIST VIC HOLD HIM STILL
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>>204713388
only one
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Oz vs Sons of Anarchy next
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>>204713334
>Every mafia, really.
no they are not
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>>204713402
Oz killing her brother will come up later I think. They established that her brother was the only person who ever cared about her
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>>204713391
Wait are they filming an episode on a weekly basis? I thiught this was a miniseries.
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>>204713192
They're all going to leave when Sofia goes off the deep end. It's only a matter of time before they realise the bitch is crazy and going to murder them on a whim.
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>>204713425
Could still reveal he never tried to actually get her out until after their dad died because he wanted to take over and he just played her too
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>>204713437
Dumbass
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>>204713415
Thank fuck. I'm so tired of shows not ending while they're hot.

>>204713424
My dad was in a mafia, I would know.
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>>204713437
yup
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>>204713334
NTA, but let's assume you're 100% correct that she didn't do anything unusual for a crime boss.
>Your facts were wrong or you used a fallacy therefore I get to read your mind and make up whatever motivation I want for you because no way someone was just incorrect
This triggers me so fucking much and I hate how ubiquitous it is.
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>>204713444
>It's only a matter of time before they realise the bitch is crazy and going to murder them on a whim.
isnt this basically what they should have realized the moment when she confessed to killing her family and then shooting Viti in the head in front of them?
why be loyle to some loon who can end you any moment?
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>>204713444
If anything that's what tends to happen with the Maroni's and Falcone's. They get overshadowed by the more colorful villains.
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>>204713437
Of course they are. Are you dense?
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>>204713452
He's the one who got her out of Arkham, maybe he actually cared about her but who knows. Everyone is a piece of shit in this show
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>>204713402
She saw Alberto's ring on Maroni. I bet she will do some dumb shit to get it back.
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>>204713464
No I thought filming was pretty much complete for the entire season. But i guess I dunno how these things work.
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>>204713437
How else would this issue almost cause a cancelation?
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>>204713503
>filming was pretty much complete
Yes retard
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also why the fuck are the Guns so unrealistic?
when Sofia shoots Viti the slide of her pistol doesnt even move and it doesnt even sound like a gunshot.
wtf?
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>>204713503
is there a season 2 on the way? i hope so. i hope episode 8 teases a PENGUIN VS SOPHIA movie at the end
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>>204713516
Alec Baldwin fallout, nothing even resembling a real gun will be in a movie for a long time
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>>204713503
Streaming can change things based on reaction but the show is definitely done filming dumbass
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>>204713503
>filming was pretty much complete
Yes retard
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>>204713516
Seems like everyone who gets shot in this show just has a reverse shot with CGI blood
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>>204713516
Guns have always been just a prop to serve the plot.
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>>204713531
You couldn't fire a blank that close to an actor's face.
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>>204713563
>>204713569
I know a guy who can
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>>204713466
I'm sorry anon I was just baiting, don't be so fucking racist.
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>>204713466
I'm sorry anon I was just baiting, don't be so fucking racist.
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>>204713568
Plots are just delivery mechanisms for gun kino.
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>>204713594
Go back to /pol
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>Alright kid, you know how it's always rainin' round here? What if I started carryin' on me an umbrella?
>But get this: it's got a gun in it! A fuckin' gun! Ain't no one gonna see it comin'
>And uh, maybe some other bells and whistles. Like some knockout gas...maybe a sword or some shit?
>Kid, what if I could get the thing to fly?
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Even if Batman doesn't show up... what happened to THESE guys? I actually liked how they were set up in the movie without much dialogue.
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>>204713621
please
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>>204713621
I really like how Oz and Vic have a sort of Batman and Robin relationship.
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What are we thinking the big finale is gonna be? Like a Batman cameo? Joker? Two Face? There has to be something to tease the next Batman movie or a 2 season
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>>204713627
They are the 2face gang or joker gang?
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>>204713610
I'm from /po/, newfag.
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Batman must be too busy solving random crimes and beating up muggers to notice a massive crime family power shift I guess
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>>204713621
I'll forgive everything if the series ends with Oz shooting Sofia with a gun hidden in an umbrella.
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>>204713547
>>204713524
>>204713507
>>204713486
>>204713459
OH! TAKE IT EASY SWEETHEART.
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>>204713627
They were never some big gang or anything. Just niggers with halloween makeup, playing "knockout game" for tiktok views.

They just got very unlucky that day.
>Its a big city i cant be everywhere.
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>>204713627
Weren't these basically just a random gaggle of douchebags who go around beating people up? I thought their group was contained to the people we saw on-screen.
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>>204713650
I think season 2 is going to be either Penguin vs Zsasz (Vic becomes Zsasz) or Penguin vs Black mask
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>>204713650
Oz removed from power and looking back at the camera as he walks into a sewer pipe beneath the Gotham zoo penguin exhibit, setting up season 2.
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pls don't kill her
send her back to arkham
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>>204713653
Street Demonz. But its not said. They had a thing were you join by painting half your face. And by killing/beating a stranger you paint the rest of your face so you're "made".
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>>204713663
They’ll probably have him save Penguin from inevitable execution. In fact it’ll be used every time the writers put themselves in a corner
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>>204713682
I think Vic is going to die. Or if things go totally off the rails he'll become Robin
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>>204713668
Moron. Get your head checked. Fucking troll.
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Why does everyone think there's going to be a season 2, this was stated to be a one-off series that segues into The Batman 2.
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>>204713692
Horse teeth. Frog eyes. Bangs that look like Edward Scissorhands cut. Pear shaped body.
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>>204713697
Woah thats intense info, Thanks, I dont know the lore that good I guess
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>>204713699
That could actually be good if done right.
>Batman saves Penguin from being executed, following his moral code but making Oz's rise inevitable
>Penguin appears less as an antagonist and more an active part of the environment in future works, occasionally giving an assist to Batman if it benefits him since
>still very clearly a criminal whose activities bring him into conflict with Batman at times, but rather than taking Batman's attention, he and his empire are just a constant in Gotham
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>Penguin got his Robin and his own cave before Batman did
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>>204713650
No Batman cameo, dont set yourself up for dissapointment. I dont think Reeves will do a retarded Thanos set up at the last second so i'm not expecting to see any big names.
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>>204713723
If this series makes a lot of money they are 1000% doing a season 2
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>>204713723
It's better than The Batman or Batman 2. They should cancel that movie and just keep going with this show.
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>>204713708
Boy you're everything they've said you are. But I guess I am too.
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>>204713748
I AM NOT TRANS
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>>204713706
Yeah Oz is going to kill him and become fully evil
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>>204713739
>Batman saves Penguin from being executed, following his moral code bu
Thats funny considering he's sat back letting the mob kill each other this whole time.
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>>204713723
People just like a decent crime TV show. That's basically what this is.
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>>204713391
>shitcasting
Mark strong did billions miles better than ugly jew
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>>204713748
Wtf are you saying now? Are you schizophrenic? Get your ass home boi
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I thought Victor's actor sucked at first but now I realize he's supposed to be a total dumbass so it makes sense
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>Bliss
This was seriously the best they could do?
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>>204713744
>they are 1000% doing a season 2
No, they are not. Farrell is not only very expensive, but he also admitted that he does not like to deal with prosthetics all the time.
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>>204713723
this show has been too successful to NOT do a second season. season to is getting announced at Christmas
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>>204713692
Yeah she'll probaby go back to Arkham. Reeves want to do a "crime saga" but he killed off 2 bigggest families in a miniseries.

Keeping her as an antagonist for Penguin, Catwoman and future crime boss like Black mask is the smart option.
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>>204713794
If you think "Bliss" is a dumb name for a drug you should see what names they come up with for pot strains
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>>204713797
Money talks. Especially in show business. Ferrel will do what they want him to, season 2 otw
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>>204713723
Tbh I don't even want Batman 2 I'd rather keep watching this instead. The first Batman wasn't even that great, but this show is actually good.
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Was the chick in the cell next to Sofia actually a plant or did she just murder a crazy lady in the cafeteria?
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>>204713797
season 2 is getting publicly greenlit by the start of 2025
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>>204713697
>its real
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>>204713798
>this show has been too successful
Proof? Agatha has higher ratings.
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>>204713831
I think that completely depends on whether or not Colin Farrell is up to do another season
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>>204713797
>Farrell
>expensive
Kek, this isn't the 00s anymore.
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>>204713852
he just did the most acclaimed role of his career 2 years ago
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>>204713797
I've literally never seen a movie with Colin Farrel before Batman. So people saying they don't recognize him in the make up means nothing to me. That being said I hear it so much I can totally understand why he wouldn't want to. The same thing happened to the lady who played Mystique in X-Men
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>>204713875
Penguin in theBatman?
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>>204713852
Sitting in a makeup room for hours fucking sucks. If he doesn't want to do it why bother?
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>>204713849
>>204713893
see>>204713819
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i just want more sofia, dont care for the penguin plotline at all
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This show is good but if Battinson doesn't show up then it could have just been any crime drama show
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>>204713893
>If he doesn't want to do it why bother?
$$$
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>>204713899
You think Colin Farrell cares about fucking money?
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Reminder that IGN gave the Penguin a low score, and they watched the whole thing. Keep your expectations in check. Things could go south in the finale.
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>>204713943
I don't think anyone has cared about IGN since like 2008
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>>204713943
And every other shill who watched entire season praised the whole thing.

I think that IGN faggot was bitter that Batman didnt show up and beat everyone.
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>>204713964
I don't think anyone knew what this show was going to be until the first episode released. Comicfags wanted Batman but surprisingly we got an R rated crime drama
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>>204712367
No I’m tired of this shit. Why is it so Larry fink? Why is it so watered down and paint by liberal numbers? Why can’t he just have a normal crew if he’s a remotely high ranking crime guy? Why does he have to adopt this 17 year old black dork with a stutter? Why did the penguin only show up for 3 mins in the last episode and maybe 10-15 in this one?

That girl is not a good actress and I hate wading thru the months of PR firms trying to manufacture public opinion. It’s like you can’t find organic opinions until months after the final DVD/Stream release.
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What the fuck is Sofia's end goal wearing lewd outfits and giving everyone looks like she wants to bang?
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>>204714003
I am right and you fucking know it. Larry Fink posts on this board himself, I guarantee it. Like a perverse caricature of King Theoden leading the charge of the Rohirrim, he leads an army of Indians to shit up this board pushing The Penguin. I can't take the constant psychological warfare anymore. I know what is real.
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>>204713964
grace randolph also didn't like the show
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>>204714047
The finale will have a gangbang scene where random viewers who won a raffle ticket draw get to fuck her on camera.
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>>204713928
everyone cares about money
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>>204714106
That's a glowing review for the show.
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>>204714154
I don't and I'd gladly appear for a second season of The Penguin (I was an extra playing a janitor)
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>>204713993
Anon. What do you WANT to see?
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>>204714176
does that pay well?
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>>204714196
I volunteered for the job because I know that even with extra roles, you need someone who will take the production seriously.
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>>204713988
While it is a shame that we have to get what The Many Saints of Newark SHOULD have been disguised as a Batman spinoff it is valid to ask where Batman is considering his presence in the first film was felt by every criminal. I just think its funny how many people get pissy that people might want to see him.
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>>204714208
>he did a janny job for free
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>>204714208
pls tell me you at least got smth to eat
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>>204714208
>its not about the money
>i was an extra playing a janitor
>I volunteered
>someone who could take production seriously
Please be real
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>>204714208
life imitates art
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>wears a tophat

What are our odds we get an umbrella gun?
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Yeah, its kino.
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>>204714594
you have to make a tiktok account to use the app

so oswald went through that process at some point. he tapped his phone screen to make an account name and a password and opened his email app to verify it... started following people in gotham to see what the local gangs were up to...
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>>204714623
I hope they make Colin Farrel do shitty tiktok dances in the full Penguin prosthetics just as a humiliation ritual.
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>>204714623
yjk he has a fanboy account
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>>204714594
>>204714623
Isn’t it more likely vic just told him this was on tiktok and showed him?
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>>204714623
Probably his whore gf made an acc for him.
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Penguin is going to trick Batman into taking down Sofia and Sal and that'll lead into the Batman 2, calling it
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>>204712367
Weakest ep of the season. Could have easily cut 8-10 minutes. Tighten the shit up.
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>>204713943
>IGN
notorious shit taste havers, it'll probably be kino with that score
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>>204712367
That was b-b-b-b-boring, dropped.
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>>204714488
That scene was cut. Note his purple car in the foreground, now destroyed.
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>>204714934
What scene would it be though? It’s snowy in the area

Could easily be him at the end with a new plum car
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>>204714934
Looks like a different car, he probably gets a new one later on
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>>204712367
No mobster would ever serve a woman. Not even if she tried bribing them or giving grand marxist-esque speeches.
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>>204713807
this series is a one-time thing, so that wouldnt make sense
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>>204713327
Are you a tranny? Because you act like one.
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Imagine what could've been lads... We missed some real kino
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>>204714184
NTA.

I want to see christopher nolan's gotham make a return somehow. What a waste it was to effectively retire batman for eight years between the two dark knight movies.

But since that's not doable. I'd rather stop with the diversity bullshit and watch a good believable crime show set in gotham. The last tv series on fox was dogshit. Felt like a cw show with a batman skin.
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>>204715281
we missed another cgi kiss between him and the stripper..
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>>204712367
Mid episode.
>Helen shaver
Yup
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previous episode was the red flag, the bell rung

and this latest episode they jumped the shark with no return. its just became unrealistic slop. How the fuck police don't track Sofia after her family got gassed? how the fuck they don't check cameras and buy her aliby? the fuck was she sparing this guy just to kill him? the fuck oz just kidnaps the crime sindicate son so easily, then so easily gets into jail to blackmail the boss mob criminal? the fuck oz forgets about sofia and doesn't try to go after her, while pretending she is some threat before she can consolidate power? the fuck the rest of falcone family just being goobers who get scared of her shitty cringe speech and then impressed by a bag of money? they probably have the same ammount of money in their bathroom to wipe their asses. they have no reason to "join" her, after she killed the family. She has no leverage, she is just a crazy bitch who kills everyone around her, treating people as disposable and then gaslighting that it were her victims who were doing this. this shit was painfull to watch, its like some woman tier writing, who thinks this is how criminal syndicates run. You just give some barely coherent speech, dangle penny and kill the most respected man in the room - and everyone suddenly becomes your fans.
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>>204713192
Goons gonna goon
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>>204715417
>How the fuck police don't track Sofia after her family got gassed?
this, the Commissioner would be all up in her Ass and she would be getting attention not only from the local Detectives but also from the Feds and possibly the DEA too.
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>>204712367
Sophia turned into pj Harvey
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It was better than episode 4 but I think having two backstory/setup episodes in a row is terrible pacing. Hopefully the pace picks up for the last 3.
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>the character 1 sits in the room
>shots fired outside
>character 2 comes into room and points the gun at the character 1

this is such a garbage move, like why watch shit like that if at any moment any arc can end like this? just out of nowhere, without any set up, the character 2 just knows where character 1 is hiding, few shots indicate that the guards were eliminated. Its fucking lazy shit. Just what is the point of watching this diarhea now, if they can pull this off? What stops them from doing the same but instead of character 1 it will be Sofia, and Character 2 will be Oz ? Just no set up, one scene Oz is just shitting in the toilet, and the next scene he will just somehow magically finding out where Sofia is hiding, off screen kills her guards and then pointing gun at her. They did this shit with the old Salvatore hiding and Sofia suddenly without any build up on his door, so how do i know this will not happen again? Why even watch some filled about stuttering nig-kid, when in the end they will just tie all lose ends with this bullshit trick? i won't be watching the next episode. Fuck this
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>>204712367
again full of filler, not atrocious as the previous one but still unsatisfactory
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>>204712738
Nothing exists outside Gotham in the Batman universe
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>>204713201
Then why is he even in there to start with?
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''call your wife, see if she answers''

Cold shit
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>>204713409
KEK
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>>204713235
It's almost like he's a supervillian or something
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>>204715529
How he is able to work with her after her clearly killing one of his men is beyond me. Only dumb moment of the episode.
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>>204713340
came here to post this
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>>204713493
Why? It wasn’t “Alberto’s ring”

They literally explained it was Sal Maronis ring, that Carmine stole

Her brother had it for like five minutes
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>>204715618
Talk about being cooked
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>>204714934
>it's impossible for oz to buy a new purple car!

Fucking retard
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>>204712367
>*murders that white criminal from his old neighborhood to show he has finally become a goon*
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>>204715192
She could show up in movies. Milloti has enough talent for movies.
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>>204713663
The crime family keeps getting eliminated
He’s probably happy
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>>204715667
>Why would a crazy bitch do something crazy?
Jeez, idk anon.
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>>204713692
Penguin shoots her with a gun hidden in an umbrella
She ends up in a wheel chair
However she’s actually fine
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>>204715488
You know, it looks like they just took the bodies and didn't even secure the crime scene, allowing her to call in the mob meeting in the same building where multiple homicides just happened. No questions like what gas it was, why no one noticed the leak, how come they died so quickly, even the guards who would have smelled something. No search of the house to see how gas was spreading, no lab analysis - NOPE. Just took the bodies and forgot about it.
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>>204715591
Bludhaven?
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I'd tittyfuck penguins mom.
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>>204712367
Other than Sal Maroni magically being able to escape from prison with just one key (as if there aren't like multiple doors with different keys in the way and multiple guards in the way), I liked it.
I'm sure there's other ways Sal could have escaped without the writing being dumb, like maybe having him counter-bribe the corrupt guard with more money to let him escape and live.
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>>204713887
Probably talking about We Ain't Friends No Mo which was pure kino
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>>204713943
Anon, I'm sure you can find better critical opnions out there than IGN's.
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>>204716076
She'd throw you out of bed the same way she threw out Oz.
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>>204716236
Everything with the Maronis seemed rushed. When did they get all of the mushrooms? How did they manage to fuck up their own ambush so badly that they lost Mama Maroni, Son Maroni and the truck full of shrooms?
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>>204715417
>How the fuck police don't track Sofia after her family got gassed?
They didn't care and were happy they were dead, and likley thought Sophia would run the family into the ground. Which she will.

>the fuck was she sparing this guy just to kill him?
She needed him to call the soldiers, then killed him as a power play/to convince the others that all of the other guineas were selfish cunts but she's not like that.

>the fuck oz just kidnaps the crime sindicate son so easily, then so easily gets into jail to blackmail the boss mob criminal?
Obviously they didn't anyone would be brazen enough to do that, it's suicide.

>the fuck oz forgets about sofia
Vic literally asks about her at the start of the ep and Oz says she's powerless.

The episode was decent but a lot of this stuff is just you being stupid. I don't feel like replying to everything because there's a lot of dumb shit in the episode (hostage trade scene, guy walking out of jail) so I don't want ot defend it.
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Why ate anons can't grasp this is an evil vs evil conflict between Oz and Sofia? Both are written in a way you can root for each of them (Oz came from nothing and was constantly looked down as a nobody by the mob, Sofia was locked in hell under false charges by her own family) but neither is the hero, Oz is a betraying scumbag and Sofia embraced the Hangman persona.
What i am trying to say if "oh the show is trying to make you hate Oz and show Sofia as a the good badass girlboss" you are either a retard or a speedwatcher or both.
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>>204716660
>waste episode 4 on drawn out Sofia-related shit
>the stuff that actually is related to Oz gets crammed into a very rushed episode 5
It's so obvious the screenplay writer really just wants to write about a female mob boss.
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Hot woman cant be evil.
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>>204716811
The screenplay writer just lit a female mob boss on fire in a very stilted, unbelievable fight scene.
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>>204716799
How can Sofia be a sympathetic character when she doesn't walk like me?
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>Gotham has an underground public transportation network
> Calls them "underground trams" instead of "subway"

what is this stupid universe
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It's schlock. I am enjoying it but it is schlock. I can't believe there was a group of people seriously thinking this show was going to grab a bunch of emmy's or was comparable to the Sopranos.
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>>204716931
There is already a subway. That "tram" syatem appears to be a very old abandoned project.

Its Gotham. That city has layers upon layers of bullshit coming from British American colonies.
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>underground tunnels
>not flooded with trash and sewer water to the brim
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>>204713943
>DEI trannies opinion

oh fuuuuc-
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>>204717034
Actually there was a shot of Oz looking at some "flood controll hatch" or something. Probably that abandoned "tram" system was more sophisticated and well designed than the subway.

Or Bruce probably managed to drain the tunnels because he is also using it.
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>yeah we are just gonna accept the crazy woman as boss because look how crazy she is
>not just take over because Falcones are no more
dumb fuckin show with dumb ass writing.
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>>204713237
stay mad chuddy
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season needed more episodes to flesh out some of the stories
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I just got back from another miserable day at university and I am planning to watch the new episode of The Penguin. It is sad that due to Joker 2 shitting the bed, DC won't make anymore serious stuff for mature adults like that and Penguin and will just make childish drivel made by that nonce James Gunn. I'm hoping for more shots of Cristin's amazing body and what are the chances she goes nude? 0.1 percent?
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>>204717020

Canonicaly if Gotham is in basically modern day Atlantic city. they wouldn't be able to build anything underground. the soil is far to soft, its basically a swamp. NYC gets away with it because Manhattan island is hard rock
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>>204717810
>hard rock
You could even say bedrock.
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it took me a week of pausing and coming back to find my place, but i finally managed to marathon the first episode, what am i in for?
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>>204718015
you found it a bit confusing from all the time skips but in general you liked it
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>>204713627
I love how in movies, criminal gangs are often incredibly diverse.
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>>204712367
Worst episode. How could she not smell gasoline on her son?
> Sophia said take as much as you want
Why didn't any of these soldiers fight with the others over the money? Why did Sophia think that giving money to ordinary soldiers was a smart idea, what if they run out or the soldiers demand more? Why the fuck would Sophia decide to kill her possible ally? It's so stupid, she's spent her whole life away from her family's machinations, and then she's stuck in a mental institution for another ten years, and then she decides to kill the one person who knows the whole system. And where are Penguin's fucking subordinates? He was the boss's right-hand man, ran the whole drug operation, and now it's like he's just a neighborhood mobster.
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>Go down to the gooncave
>Find this
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This show is so fucking bad. The dialogue, the plot, the acting sans the two leads, the way it looks, everything about it. If this is prime time HBO in 2024 then fuck me it is over. The dialogue especially is excruciating.
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>cop responds to being teleported to crazy monster town largely like most people would
>in the process, shoots one of the monster and the round goes through it into someone else
>Boyd, allegedly the most level headed, still blames her
Everyone in Fromville is retarded except Henry.
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>>204717384
it's a show written by jews. the guys would rape her to death right then and there once Johnny Viti was killed.
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>>204718356
lmao thought it was in the From thread
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>>204715417
She needed to keep Viti because if she called the whole family they wouldn't come. Viti on the other hand could summon everyone.
Then she killed him because she didn't need her anymore and he argued against her. But yeah, that whole thing about the money is fucking retarded. anyone who would have a place as such a table would be loaded as fuck. You wouldn't even be there unless you had a lot of money and a high body count.
Also her psychiatrists becoming her boy toy is beyond ridiculous, a simp retard who worked in Arkham wouldn't know the first thing about how to keep mafia running. And why the fuck would the mafia family be ok with a stranger showing there from nowhere.
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you really can't do fast paced tv shows anymore you need to explain every single thing to these dumb fuck retards
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If some zoomers get to listen The Cure because of A Forest being featured when they go underground at least the show achieved something. Great band.
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>>204718506
Cure is gay shit for fags and women, which are just fags who were born female. Listen to Stranglers.
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>>204718474
They're comic book mafia families. The only criminal activity that either family seems to be involved in is the manufacturing and sale of fake comic book drugs.
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>>204718506
that zoomer girl isnt going to give you that hawk tuah
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>>204718530
Which is a shame. Mobsters have done some creative/lucrative scams. Like the time they owned a bunch of gas stations. See a big chunk of the price of gas are the taxes. Gas stations collect them when you pay for gas and at some point, have to forward them to Uncle Sam/the state government. There is however a long delay between when said tax is collected by the gas station and when the government will actually come out and ask what the hell is going on if you don't send anything in. So for months these mob owned gas stations were collecting money, ignoring the letters, and then they just abandoned the places around time an IRS agent actually showed up.
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>>204718498
I just want a coherent plot
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>>204713333
Why leave Viti alive during the gassing of the house to just pop him later?
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>>204718612
That was lukoil. They were owned by the Russian government.
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>>204718657
He knew where the giant bag of money was.
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>>204712367
I thought it was really heavy handed on the violence against nonWhites. I'm OK with this.
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>>204718698
they dont even do fire stunts anymore? too dangerous or what
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>>204718698
Seemed way too cartoony how fast they burnt, also the mother just instantly burning with him from one cut to the next. Should have just had him shoot her instead then get burned when her son fell on her.
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>>204718860
The fire also only burning towards the kid and not the car they just pulled him out of.
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>>204718698
kek
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>>204718698
SHIT COLORED SKIN BURNS LIKE COAL
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>>204718673
No, I'm talking about a different scam.
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>>204719082
No, you're talking about the same scam that used lukoil gas stations. It wasn't thought up in New Jersey by local gangsters. It was a scam perpetrated by a Russian company using Russians.
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>>204713334
Women ARE bad
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>>204718877
Didn't catch that
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it's mid, probably the last new hollywood show i'll ever watch
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>>204719155
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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I thought that short haired Arkham chick who attacked Sophia was a man at first
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>>204718530
Wouldn't huge mafias such as Falcone and Maronis be involved in child prostitution too?
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>gigante
That's such a stupid fucking "name". It's so silly and she says it like if it hits hard like falcone or moroni
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>>204712367
Didn’t watch. Dropped after last ep. Don’t watch woke shit
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>>204719389
on the previous episode i decided to only finish it so i can shit on it here
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Why didn't Sophia just sing her troubles away like Arthur and Lady Gaga?
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>>204719443
did she get raped in prison too?
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>>204714866
This and the last one were weak because of sofia. He really should've just shot her after the car crash. I already didn't give a shit about her character and I care less now that she's not a lady killer and is a victim of men
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I think I’m dropping this. The first 3 episodes were kino but I don’t care about the girl boss character and she’s getting way too much focus
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>>204719845
sofia was always the side char retard
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>>204712746
Agree with all this. They have some type of ending with Sofia etc.. in mind and they have to come up with all sorts of bullshit writing to get there. Sal just walking out of jail is absolutely retarded also.

All I care about is penguin absolutely fucking Sofias shit up. I imagine he will sacrifice Vic to do it. I dont think he will out right kill Vic, but he will let him die to get what he wants.
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>>204712367
I just gave the show a try and surprisingly its actually good and I look forward to each new one.
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>>204719845
>girlboss
>entire episode of her being betrayed and tortured
>will still probably lose in the end
Maybe there have been too many "girlbosses" lately I guess.
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Sofia has a massive dump truck
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people genuinely believe sofia will win? she's only a girlboss if she wins against all the men worse than her
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>>204712367
sofia's trauma was caused by a man that hated women, so in turn what she does is
>kill her entire family including a bunch of innocent women
>traumatize an innocent young girl
>decides to become a mob boss, a culture that inherently profits from the suffering of women and prostitution
>wears an extremely revealing slutty outfit as a mob boss

She should have remained a psycho killer type character and used the Bliss drug as a kickstart for her to get slight metahuman powers and have her as the paranormal element in the story and foil to penguin since he's always the powerless but very good gangster among Batman's gallery of super powered villains. Making her into a mob girlboss is the worst direction her character could have taken. Show's still good and fun but now only because of Vic and Oz who are both amazing.
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>>204720285
The show ending with her ending up back in Arkham would be kino
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>>204720285
well the shows called penguin so I figure the show ends if he dies
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>>204720338
sofia kills oz at the end and goes into an insane rage where she gains his personality
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>>204719334
Yeah they took it from the Long Halloween comic, but it’s a name she married into and not her mother’s name. It sounds pretty stupid, more forgivable in the comic since Sofia is massive and the name echoes that
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>>204712367
LITERALLY NOTHING HAPPENED
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am I hearing the cure, a forest. this is unexpected
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>>204713667
>I'll forgive everything if the series ends with Oz shooting Sofia with a gun hidden in an umbrella.
>Sofia lures Oz to a meeting out in the rain
>Obviously he is disarmed before meeting her
>he only has an umbrella on him
>Sofia monologues, says it's time for Oz to die
>mid-monologue a bullet goes through her forehead
>camera cuts to a muzzle, at the end of Oz's umbrella.
>Sofia's goons, now without a leader, swear fealty to Oz
>Oz does a penguin laugh
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>>204720391
>my name is sophia... sophia penguin
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>>204714934
that's a rolls, maserati exploded
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>>204715705
It's plum, you wise guy,



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