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new movies to watch?

2020 - 2024
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What did you guys think of La Flor?
Or are you pseuds that didn't even watch it?
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>>204715532
Holy fucking kek

Should've used the Burger King crown version tho
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>>204715583
Filmed theater.
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>>204715565
Megalopolis, Joker 2, Abiding Nowhere, the list goes on.
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>>204715532
You're destroying the environment
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>>204715668
you didn't even watch it
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Jej
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where does one start with John Ford? i've already seen Grapes of Wrath
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>>204716061
you can stop right there. Irrelevant director.
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>>204715532
made me lmao irl
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>>204715565
some of them might not be /film/ but my top 5 are, in alphabetical order:

Days
Megalopolis
Memoria
Monster
The Worst Person in the World

this year has been sorta mostly average. i really dug "Grand Tour" and "Viet and Nam" (the latter of which may achieve a kind of following) though!!! x
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>>204716375
>Megalopolis
yeah i'm thinking based
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>https://youtu.be/p4PoPdvyy9Q?si=y34CHvvSkLpaKcY9
Every morning I wake up and sing this song. It is a little tradition of mine, and has brought good fortune into my life.
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>>204716061
Don't bother.
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>>204716375
>The Worst Person in the World
what's wrong with you
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who pays for all the movies that are made? less than 0.1% of movies made every year make a profit.
Who's footing the bill? and why?
And don't even compare it to music and literature, which are cheap. Cinema is very expensive.
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>>204716061
You already started, go on now
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>>204716978
>less than 0.1% of movies made every year make a profit.
megacompanies DO NOT want to make a profit in [current year], the whole industry is a tax exemption scam
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>>204716978
I don’t know, but if I ever have that type of money I’m paying certain directors to make a film starring my daughter that hasn’t been conceived of yet.
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>>204716061
Watch How Green Was My Valley next
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>>204716061
Watch the ones that are part of the National Film Registry first I guess
>https://www.bfi.org.uk/lists/10-best-john-ford-films
>http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/articles/ten_underappreciated_john_ford_films.htm
I think these are good lists. I've seen all of his stuff that's available. Well, almost. Aside from some of his (available) silents and early talkies almost all of his films are at least enjoyable
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>>204715565
Blonde, the /film/-filter of the decade.
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If you could live in any directors world, which one would you live in? I think I would live in the Bressonian universe personally.
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>>204717296
Rohmer hands down, just peace, quiet and long, eloquent talks with beautiful girls.
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>>204717296
David Hamilton
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>>204716061
just pick a film that sounds interesting and watch it. all of the films I've seen from him are at least worth watching
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>>204717296
Tinto Brass
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>>204717296
My life is already Bressonian enough. I think I would choose a slice of life anime world so I could be surrounded by cute people and maybe feel real love for once in my life. Goodbye /film/ I’m going to imagine myself in a world like that.
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>>204717671
Buffalo 66’ is practically every American’s reality.
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>>204717671
Lmao Christina Ricci’s whole purpose in Buffalo 66’ is to tell Vincent Gallo how based he is. Would be nice
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>Wow, Billy you’re so fucking based! Ignore anyone who says you aren’t.
What is the female version of Buffalo 66’?
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>>204715565
Only the River Flows
>>204716061
Stagecoach
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>>204717074
why no daughter yet?
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>>204717989
any lifetime movie
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>>204717759
That and to have perfect teenage tits
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>>204717989
Female wish fullfillment fantasy that is actually a humorous critique of said fantasy that exposes the fantasist's hurt and vulnerability? Valley of the Dolls maybe, although it's not as self-aware.
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>>204718415
>>204718211
Dumbass
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Stagecoach (1939)
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>>204718415
Get off Gallo’s dick. How is it a critique of said fantasy? I seriously doubt he was aware of it. That being said it was a great movie.
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>>204718482
First, I don't like Gallo, he's a typical narcissist and a compulsive liar that herds cattle into worshipping him.
Second, you can't read even relatively unsophisticated films and are definitely not ready for /film/ films despite watching hundreds or probably thousands of them. Not watching, looking at is a better word; like somnabulist sleepwalks not realizing what's in front of him, you look at films not understanding the richness that's in front of you.
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I wasn't ready for this trauma dumping
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>>204718658
You haven’t answered my question. Your words mean absolutely nothing to me.
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>>204718824
Not being ironic right now, I wonder if Bergman wanted to cast Ingrid Bergman in at least one film of his because their names sounded really similar
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>>204715878
Based Family Plot appreciator!
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>>204717296
Bunuel would be fun, I'd be surrounded by sexy willing sluts and magical realism.
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>>204719010
6/10
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>>204718972
He's not appreciating it
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>>204716061
The Searchers.
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>>204719164
Family Plot is the new Serpent's Egg. A through and through pleb filter by virtue of the filmmaker saying fuck it and making a passion project instead of catering to bougie tastes of the current trend.
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>>204719010
10/10
>>204719175
9/10
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>>204719010
sex/10
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>>204719213
Why is everyone in this general so dumb?
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>>204719682
It's a combination of actual retards and contrarian faggots 'pretending' to be retards by liking weak films
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>>204719777
you faggots shit on Vertigo all the time, fuck off you try hard braindead no subs, amerislop watcher.
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>>204719799
Vertigo is amerislop
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>>204719799
Another example of the contrarianism itt, except it's disliking great and popular films
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>>204719833
>>204719844

see>>204719682
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>>204719821
What's the name of this camera gimmick, /p/atricians?
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>>204719946
pov? it is literally in the filename. Are you one of these retards by chance?
>>204719833
>>204719844
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>>204717296
Antonioni Cinematic Universe for me.
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Fortune Cookie Filmmakers Who Should Be Avoided at All Costs
>Hector Babenco
>Lino Brocka
>Luis Bunuel
>Jackie Chan
>Alfonso Cuaron
>Robert Eggers
>Victor Gaviria
>Wong Kar-wai
>Ang Lee
>Fernando Meirelles
>Esteban Ramirez
>Carlos Reygadas
>Sion Sono
>Edward Yang
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Is All About Lily Chou-Chou any good?
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>>204720189
sounds boring, what's the appeal? sleep walking your way through mid tier European cities with friends who are all vapid assholes.
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>>204719844
There are enough of us in here as to make Vertigo non canonical. Another classic 7/10 from the Hitch, he is unironically babby's first old time director. Casablanca mogs, Kane mogs.
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>>204720243
There are like 12 people here and only 2-3 autistically shit on Hitchcock because they are typical 4chan midwits POPULAR THING BAD
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>>204720239
Yes, it's great.

>>204720240
1-Very high chance to encounter AND fuck with Monica Vitti
2-Everyone dresses the right way
3-Everyone has money
4-Everyone is on vacation to exotic places
5-Cool cars
6-Cool jobs (writer, broker, photographer)
7-High chance to have a threesome with Jane Birkin and another bitch
Would have to be regarted to pass on such an opportunity.
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>>204720239
>le japanese high school bullying
No.
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Serpent's Egg > Persona
Family Plot > Vertigo
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>>204720302
Why would I want to fuck with Monica Vitti? She seems nice.
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>>204720239
It sucks
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>>204720360
Fuck Monica Vitti* lol I'm ESL
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We're all ESL here.
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>>204720326
>>204720362
You deserve getting all of your money thrown into the sea
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>>204717296
When I'm feeling coomer Zalman King

Feeling kakoii
Takeshi Kitano

Feeling >goofy Mike Cheslik

Feeling Booring John Boorman

But probably Id be satisfied murdering this anon >>204717380 and taking the Hamilton universe for myself
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>>204720329
this anon gets it
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Hitchock Ranked
>GOAT Tier
Psycho
Rear Window
>Amazing Tier
North by Northwest
Rebecca
Strangers on a Train
Vertigo
>Great Tier
The 39 Steps
Foreign Correspondent
The Lady Vanishes
Lifeboat
The Lodger
Rope
>Good Tier
The Birds
The Man Who Knew Too Much (34)
Sabotage
Saboteur
Shadow of a Doubt
Suspicion
haven't seen the rest
>>204720329
I haven't seen Family Plot yet, but Serpent's Egg is unironically a great film. I don't understand why it's shit on so much. I still think Persona, and a few of Bergman's other films are better, but Serpent's Egg is not bad by any means
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NO!!!!!!!!
THE TONE IS UNEVEN!!!!!
THE CHARACTERS ARENT LIKEABLE!!!!
WHERE ARE MY QUIPS LIKE
DAVID FINCHER!!!!
WHERE IS THE SERIOUS TONE LIKE JONATHAN GLAZER!!!!
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>>204720470
watch Dial M for Murder, dawg.
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>>204720470
give the birds a second chance, it always plays better when you know the focus isn't really on bird attacks but the Tippi Hedren performance. She by far turns in the best performance by a Hitchcock protagonist.
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>>204720374
Me too, I'm just fucking with you ;)
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>>204720528
zoomers are always filtered by the Birds, Dr Strangelove and Raging Bull. The themes are just way over their heads
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>>204720605
>>204720528
Oh yes because le killer pigeon is such a deep concept. Hitchcock fucking sucks. Because of muh Truffat everyone pretends he was something that he wasn't.
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>>204720605
And Lola Montes!!!
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>>204720525
I'll get to it eventually, nigga. calm down
>>204720528
I've watched it twice already at this point. I did enjoy it more on a second watch, but still not enough to raise it above the good tier. actors' performances really don't matter a whole lot to me, so if that's the only reason you like it so much, I don't see it going any higher on another rewatch. I've also seen the sequel, which is not nearly as bad as everyone says. it's a solid 5/10
>>204720605
1. not a zoomer
2. I really liked Dr. Strangelove and Raging Bull. just not a huge fan of The Birds
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>>204715460
>>204715486
https://youtu.be/jyJJmMSnqdM
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>>204720605
yeah looking at all these replies, /film/ seems to have been taken over by broccoli headed teenagers who think Fincher is the height of the medium.
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>>204720605
I never liked Dr Strangelove, I can prove that I'm not a zoomer, I actually caught the Metropolis reference in that film...
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>>204720701
For real, you can't raw dog Ophuls straight to Lola Montes. He has a whole filmography full of trademarks and themes that you have to earn. Zoomers are in a race to log 2,000 films on letterboxd and skim over so many established classics like the pathetic weasels they are.
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>>204720776
Bruh fr these ones me tho on g>>204720682
>>204716106 Fincher films fire tho? No cap
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>>204720776
Certain threads on /fit/ require a penis length shot with a timestamp to participate. I think /film/ requires a bank statement in order to participate to show:

No netflix or streaming subscriptions
No theater visit to see Deadpool va Wolverine or Terrifier 3

This would help to filter all the undesirables out of /film/
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Zoomer this zoomer that... y'all are some bitter ass boomer niggas in here.
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>>204720936
I am 100% down for this
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>>204720817
He is an MTV music video director with no style, no aesthetic eye, and no soul. His shots are drab his colors dull and lifeless. His blocking is amateur.

Mank was his only film made for artistic purposes, exposing what a lousy auteur he is underneath his love of violence and shock content. He should be directing Terrifier movies, not cinematic art.
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>>204720964
It is just that one bitter guy. He is probably a film professor at a community college.
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>>204715532
Holy fucking based
Please add a crown to this and it’s perfect
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anyone been to the Tsaicafe yet?
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>>204720233
>Fortune Cookie Filmmaker
what does this mean
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>>204721605
filmed theater
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Is The Substance future canon?
>la femis alumni
>jewish woman
>cannes winner

Just saying Jeanne Dielman had the same beginnings
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>>204721605
you must be new here
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>>204716061
My Darling Clementine.

>>204717345
Same.
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>>204721651
Just stop
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>>204721605
Same as every other /film/ buzzword: whatever you want it to mean.
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>>204720326
How do you propose a film tackling bullying then?
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>>204721728
unlike most /film/ buzzwords, I'd say this one has a pretty solid definition. it's directors who package up a culture they have never really experienced in order to sell it to a foreign audience (typically American or film festivals)
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stacy starr
annabelle flowers
taylor moore
raylene
zoey holloway
brianna beach
tara tainton
persia monir
rachel steele
margo sullivan
natalie wonder
taboomomnatasha
butt3rflyforu
missbehavin26
Jolie Lyon
kitty leroux
lovely lilith
annabelle rogers
xev bellringer
fiona dagger
mistresst
sloansmoans
lalunalewd
lewdestbunnie
sydney harwin
daras daily taboo

anyone else I'm forgetting?
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>>204720766
Actual kino.
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>>204721985
>anyone else I'm forgetting?

you know who
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>>204721985
Jaybbgirl
Miss Malorie Switch
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>>204720233
What the fuck do non-asians got to do with fortune cookie filmmaking, you absolute fucking retard? I try to educate you about the grift, yet you mongoloids are unable to understand anything.
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>>204721985
>Sydney Harwin
muh dick... if you love being raped, this is your girl
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>>204721850
Tsai-style, long shots of bullies lined up as football players in full gear tackle them repeatedly
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>>204722107
Hispanic grift, pendejo
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>>204722198
Exactly. Not fortune cookie filmmaking.
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>>204722213
chipotle filmmaking
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list of grifts by nationality/race

Asians -- fortune cookie filmmaking
Latinx -- chiptole filmmaking
Creams -- McDonalds arthouse
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>>204721476
It closed down but you can still buy his trademark coffee online

www.tsaileelu.com.tw

100g for only $74 (plus tip)
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>>204722266
lol I was the one who made that screenshot and crunched the numbers.
But I thought the cafe was brand new.
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>>204722213
>>204722226
>>204722253
all fortune cookie filmmaking, regardless of where they are from
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>>204722266
>coffee grift
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>>204722283
Idiot.
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*rips off his fans*
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>>204722410
>t. fortune cookie poster
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>>204722428
Fool.
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>>204722418
>makes millions of dollars
>charges 100 USD for a cup of coffee

Tsai is this general's eternal lolcow
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>>204722266
That is absolutely fucking outrageous lmao

I tried the David Lynch coffee back when he was doing it and it was garbage, but I’m a coffee snob light roast fag. Lynch has even said he drinks instant coffee lol.
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>>204722458
>t.
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To the Ethiopian guy from last thread- I really fucking hope you’re drinking Ethiopian coffee, they’re definitely my favorite. Kenyan and Colombian next
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coffee is for fags
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>>204722487
Explain to us coffee elitism, please.
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>>204722474
He needs more money for his poor cat's eye treatment. Be reasonable.
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>>204722559
instant coffee = vhs
ground coffee = dvd
whole beans = bluray
non brand generic farm grown whole beans = film print
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>>204721985
>No Mama Fiona
Ngmi.

Also,
Tatum Christine
Jocelyn Baker
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>>204722704
Do you consume whole beans? You have to grind it at some point.
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You deserve to pay $500 for an espresso if you're the type of retard who thinks a film director has any special insights on gourmet food
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>>204722704
Cool, I really don't drink coffee at all since too many years ago, but I used to drink coffee all the time since I was a baby and until I was 15. My grandma used to put coffee in my feeding bottle all the time.
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>>204722683
>Tsai's cat has squinty chinese eyes
Come on now.
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>>204722864
Ngl, gourmet food maybe overrated; it's pseud filtered stuff for the food world. Nothing like KFC, best fried chicken in the game.
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>>204722553
We're all coffee drinking fags here.
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>>204722934
To me something like gourmet food is gastronomical counterfeit money when compared to a good KFC chicken.
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I drink three cups of instant coffee every day
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>>204721651
Depends who is voting again. If it's jews and their woke golem then yes. If the canon is restored (Lean, Malick et al) it will be eligiblle for a Razzie.
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>>204722814
You’re going to need to invest in a $2k+ grinder
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>>204722977
I drink like 6 cups of tea a day, and like 2 or 3 of chocolate. Addiction to unusual substances.

>>204722958
This, but unironically.
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>>204722977
Same, 3 to 5 cups, otherwise I get sleepy/depressed
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>>204723016
>$2k+ grinder
Ain't no way
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>>204722906
Based obasan
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>PLEASE PRE-ORDER MY SHITTY PAINTINGS
>COLLECTORS PM ME
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>>204723001
>eligiblle for a Razzie.
It speaks for how fucked up things are that The Substance won awards instead of being laughed at and nominated for the Razzies. Back in the 90s, it would have been that way
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>>204715456
Motherland tawk, sounds like propaganda
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>>204723070
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>>204723070
nigga is a natural born grifter, respect
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>>204723099
At least it's better than Gallo's paintings.
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>>204723056
She was giga based. She was a fan of Saint Seiya and knew every character's name by heart. Also was a die hard soccer fan.
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>>204723016
Lmao if you actually buy that you're a moron
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>>204723099
>>204723178
I don't know what to think of these paintings. Neither of them satisfy my tastes, but for some reason they seem interesting enough. Tsai's paintings do feel like Tsai, Gallo's one doesn't feel like what I'd expect him to paint.
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>>204723099
I think the man is unironically p-word. I mean look at this shit
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>>204723292
lol the internet hates all art except renaissance paintings
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>>204723335
pedophilic? yeah, I think so too, though I'm not sure what his shitty chair paintings have to do with that
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>>204723335
It gives vibes.

>>204723342
Very pleb take, the classical art fags are kinda like elitist metalheads or boomers who only watch classic films. I like many kinds of art, but those paintings just don't cut it for me.
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>>204723196
>Saint Seiya
>Die hard soccer fan
Hello fellow latino.
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>>204723292
Gallo's paintings are mildly interesting until you realize all of them are the same still life bullshit with very little variation
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>>204723342
there is no way you can tell me with a straight face that either of those paintings are good. Gallo's would at least look alright hung on the wall of a small bar near the bathroom or something, but Tsai's look like they were painted by a toddler
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/celebs/
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>>204723410
Hi bro.

>>204723429
I feel he has potential.
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>>204723429
Very oppressive colors.
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Let's see /film/'s paintings.
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>>204723623
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>>204723623
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Impressive. Very nice. Let's see David Lynch's paintings.
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>>204723711
I like it.
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are there any directors who can actually paint?
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>>204723801
James Cameron
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>>204723875
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>>204715456
Real Asian cinema?
Watch Dersu Uzala (1975). True Asian kino.
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>>204723923
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are doomer movies disingenuous?

if you can direct a movie it means you have the money and social skills and people respecting you. what are you so depressed about?
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>>204723801
Joe
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>>204723801
Kathryn Bigelow according to wikipedia but I can't find any of her paintings
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>>204723801
Warhol
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>>204716375
>Monster
I enjoyed this, but the ambiguous ending was kind of ruined when the director went out and said what it actually represented.
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>>204723875
I like retro sci-fi art a lot
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>>204724047
>A Conversation (On Devastated Fabrics, On an Interpretation of Sculpture, On Metaphors, On Cinema and the Sun, On Animism, On Dreams), 2022
vibin
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>>204724015
You're starting to discover the doomer grift.
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https://screenrant.com/best-directors-all-time/
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>You know, some people believe that if they are making compromises, if they are conformists and they are dealing with the system, [they will have advantages]. But if you make these kinds of compromises, you will fail, because on the screen you see very clearly the personality of the director, in every case. You have a lot of excuses for doing this shit – you need to pay the bills, you need to support your kids, etc. But these excuses are not working, because your movie will not be honest, and this will be clear. That’s why I am telling everybody not to do any compromise, because if they do it, there is a problem. I am saying all the time: please do your movie with your phone, edit it on your computer, and put it on the internet! You can be famous this way also, it doesn’t matter. I have never done this kind of compromise, and nothing happened to me. I am still alive. And nobody had the courage to say anything.
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>>204723042
>>204723212
Current grinder is Lagom P64, use it daily for espresso. It’s less than $2k but not by much.
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>>204724347
>Jordan Peele, Ryan Coogler, Spike Lee
Truly the three greatest black directors of all time.
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>>204724376
you've been scammed, anon
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>>204723711
https://youtu.be/PpdMzy6kz3M
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>>204724466
>Jordan Peele, Ryan Coogler, Spike Lee
race grifters
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>>204724347
American cinema DOMINATING
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>>204724347
>ctrl + f "tsai"
>zero results
>close tab
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>>204724558
>Gullible responses to Get Out and Us show that woke viewers outsmart themselves and are cinema illiterate, and Hollywood knows a surefire way to trick-or-treat them: Under the horror-movie rubric, the woke generation will fall for anything. From here on, I will no longer refer to Jordan Peele as a race hustler. Us proves he is something simpler: a charlatan.
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>>204724347
People (deservedly) shit on Letterboxd and its user base. But it's still better than this kind of Gen X/millennial "movie buff" school of film criticism.
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>>204724015
>what are you so depressed about?
We're all trapped in a hell controlled by psychopaths and the only way out is death.
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/films/ with loving B+S or F+D incest?
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>>204724652
>https://letterboxd.com/dave/list/official-top-250-narrative-feature-films/
I mean, it's far from being perfect but is there a better list aside from the current S&S one (which is also admittedly not great but it used to be)?
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>>204723623
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>>204724652
>But it's still better
No. Also, there’s a ton of this shit on trannyboxd too
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>>204723946
this film is a metaphor for Kurosawa and Tark's friendship
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>>204724814
TSPDT and the /film/ canon
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>>204724814
The greatest top 100 of all.
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>>204724821
Film name? Un Lac?
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>>204724879
Still never seen #1 and never will, Reddit snuck into /film/ and you should all be fucking embarrassed and humiliated by this
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>>204724933
That whole chart is reddit and cinema is shit
>b-but what are you doing here?!
Fuck off redditor this is a shitposting website
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>>204724868
>https://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_all1000films_table.php
>12
The psyop continues
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>>204724814
>1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die
https://boxd.it/1Rhi
>Film as a Subversive Art ::: the complete list
https://boxd.it/aEtXM
>Jean-Luc Godard - Introduction to a True History of Cinema and Television (1978; translated 2021)
https://boxd.it/e6b56
>Kinema Junpo's Top Japanese Films of All Time (2009)
https://boxd.it/2c6GU
>The Story of Film: An Odyssey
https://boxd.it/5U2y
>They Shoot Pictures, Don’t They? 1,000 Greatest Films of All Time – 2024 Edition
https://boxd.it/rsTaq
>The Ultimate Film Canon: 20th Century (1901-2000)
https://boxd.it/1HVMM
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Bela Tarr curses a lot in interviews. Very unbecoming of a man his age.
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>>204724354
>please do your movie with your phone, edit it on your computer, and put it on the internet!

This is absolute bullshit, as we see the last two days with Haver and Gapsik Mukbang. If a film isn't at the hollywood level today, it will immediately be ridiculed. His advice only worked before audiences became so mean.
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>>204725309
All part of the grift.
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>>204725376
the trick is to make it a private tracker exclusive and then you can claim it is a rare film.
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>>204724814
That algorithm change they did a year ago made it worse. Started weighing the five-star ratings of new releases more heavily.
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>>204725450
The trick is to not publish it at all.
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>>204725376
Hi Joel, your movie sucks
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>>204725376
that only applies to you, Mr. Haver. anons were relatively nice to Gapsik Mukbang
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>>204725205
A couple of cool but weird lists
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>>204725376
I haven't seen anyone make fun of Gapsik. As for Joel, mumblecore bullshit has always been (rightfully) ridiculed by serious film fans.
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We're all serious film fans here.
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>>204725635
Cinema is my life.
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>>204725205
>Jean-Luc Godard - Introduction to a True History of Cinema and Television (1978; translated 2021)
What a faggot, listing everytging made by him up until that point. He must have been truly, insufferably narcisistic.
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Best mumblecore films?
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Cinema, mon amour
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>>204724814
>Official Top 250 Narrative Feature Films
63% seen
>>204724868
>>204724879
>The /film/ Top 100
50% seen
>>204725205
>1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die
52% seen
>Film as a Subversive Art ::: the complete list
15% seen
>Jean-Luc Godard - Introduction to a True History of Cinema and Television (1978; translated 2021)
36% seen
>Kinema Junpo's Top Japanese Films of All Time (2009)
13% seen
>The Story of Film: An Odyssey
45% seen
>They Shoot Pictures, Don’t They? 1,000 Greatest Films of All Time – 2024 Edition
54% seen
>The Ultimate Film Canon: 20th Century (1901-2000)
32% seen
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moar like mumblebore
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>>204725681
https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/film/all-time/g:mumblecore/
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>>204725712
ok
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>>204725735
>2. Pretend That You Love Me (Joel Haver)
Haversisters... we fucking won
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>>204725681
Breathless
Husbands
Yi Yi
Anyone Else But Me
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>>204725205
>Jean-Luc Godard - Introduction to a True History of Cinema and Television (1978; translated 2021)
What a king, listing everytging made by him up until that point. He must have been truly, inconceivably based.
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>>204725735
Grim.
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>>204725735
>RYM
A sad cope. Serious critics on letterboxd would never rank him alongside the titans of mumblecore, Bujalski, Perry, Schimberg, Swanberg. No.
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>>204725934
It's rated even higher on trannyboxd lol
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I'm more of a mumblegore aficionado
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Joel Haver is not Mumblecore, he is Mumblecore Revival. You retards need to get your genres straight. GOSH!
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>tfw this is one of my absolute favorite films but I don't like any of Malick's other works
What director is like this for you?
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Proto-mumblecore
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Menschen am Sonntag (1930)
Treno popolare (1933)
Partie de campagne (1936)

Doomers can suck my dick.
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>>204725681
>Best mumblecore films?

Mumblecore (2011)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcj0wrLBDoE
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>>204725309
MOMMY NOOOOOOO HE SAID A BAD WORD I CANT TAKE ITTTTT MAKE HIM STOP WAHHHHH WAHHHH HE SAID NAUGHTY WORDS I CANT HANDLE IT CALL THE FBI RIGHT FUCKING NOWWWW!!!!!
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>>204725934
>Serious critics on letterboxd
LMAO
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Redpill me on Frownland (2007)
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>>204726203
Kinda shat myself there as well.
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>>204726231
Go fuck yourself along with all discussion of mumblecore worthless garbage
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>>204726231
My smile is stuck.
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>>204726093
would Gallo be considered No-Wave?
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>>204726231
jewish

>>204725934
four jews

noticing a pattern with mumblecore
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I'm more of a New Tales from Portuguese Cinema fan
https://boxd.it/ye3lm
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>>204726271
I think he rubbed shoulders with a few of the no wave guys back in the 80s but no I wouldn't consider him part of the movement
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>>204726053
Neo-Mumblecore
>>204726271
Neo-No-Wave
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God, what a garbage thread.
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For me it's remodernist cinema

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remodernist_film
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New American Cinema -> New Hollywood/American New Wave -> No-Wave -> Neo-No-Wave -> Mumblecore -> Post-Mumbcore (Mumblegore as a subgenre) -> Mumblecore Revival/Neo-Mumblecore
did I get that right?
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>>204726557
you forgot The New Talkies
https://boxd.it/IzNG
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who remembers the /film/ manifesto
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you autists never fail to entertain me
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>>204726726
neo-autists
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>>204726718
The /Film/ Manifesto

In our modern day soulless age, we, the signed, Generation Z, and Generation A, are seeking new modes of authenticity and truth in cinema.

The filmmakers of the past have let us down, focusing on political pandering, aloof satirization, and the current trends of the arthouse, including, gay sex, trannyism, and hardcore gore.

The current day filmmakers are chasing lazy, indulgent genre exercises called "elevated horror"

They believe that this genre, 'elevated horror' allows them to be auteurs like the greats of the past, while indulging in the ugliest impulses of today's filmmakers.

They wish to have their cake and eat it too.

The truth is that these 'elevated horror' films belong in the dumpster.

We in /film/ reject the horror genre all together.

We reject CGI, AI, and digital tools.

We reject the Cannes Film Festival, the Berlin Film Festival, and the Venice Film Festival (all have now been co-opted by David Lynchian 'elevated horror' films, therefore they all must be discarded).

We in /film/ champion 35mm and 16mm film NOT digital cinematography.

We champion real actors, practical effects, and hand made cinema.

We champion melodrama as the peak of cinema. Films about real people, real drama, and real themes.

We reject 'symbolic' themes. We reject 'film as paintings', which only serves to confuse the power of cinema into abstraction.

This abstraction has become a crutch for the worst filmmakers.

We reject David Lynch. We reject the cowardice of ambiguity instead of concrete themes. We reject spectacle and memes instead of real human authenticity. We reject catch phrases. We reject vibes, for they are a means to lull you into hypnosis. A true film will wake you up, not draw you into sleep.

Signed, Generation Z, and our friends, Generation A. We are the future. Respect us because soon, you will have no choice.
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Define Neo No-Wave and its relationship to OG New Wave kino
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>>204724884
Yea
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>>204726785
wrong manifesto. this is the real one

The /Film/ Manifesto

Everything is cinema.
Nothing is cinema.
Everything for cinema.
I would die for cinema.
I would kill for cinema. I would do anything for the gods of the silver screen. The only thing that I would not do is accept
1. inauthenticity
2. stolen valor
3. movies propped by: mass media marketing, commercial interests, political agendas (fascism, and wokeism) and gossip culture.
4. cinema should challenge and provoke. It should not merely entertain or comfort, but force the viewer to confront difficult truths, question their assumptions, and see the world in new ways. The greatest films are those that leave us changed.
5. cinema is both a collaborative art form, and also the product of an auteur. An auteur masterpiece is no better than a film who you don't even know the director's name.
6. committees and focus groups cannot create art. Cinema is not commercial.
7. cinema is also not mathematics. There are no scores. There is no consensus. There is no objective truth. Art is subjective. A bad movie can sometimes be good. A good movie can sometimes be bad.

Most important. Cinema can be anything, but it cannot be boring, but if it must be boring, it must be interesting.
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>>204726785
Why so much hate for Lynch?

>>204726889
Word salad
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Is there a list or something for silent films? Want to see more
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>>204726791
>Neo No-Wave, often referred to as Proto-Mumblecore, is a film movement that emerged in the early 2000s, characterized by its lo-fi aesthetic, improvisational dialogue, and a focus on the everyday lives and relationships of its characters. This movement can be seen as a response to the more polished indie films of the late '90s and draws from the experimental and avant-garde roots of the No Wave cinema of the late 1970s in New York.
>Like No Wave films, Neo No-Wave productions often utilize low-budget techniques, including handheld cameras, natural lighting, and minimalistic sound design.
>The dialogue often feels spontaneous and conversational, reflecting a more naturalistic approach similar to Mumblecore but rooted in the experimental spirit of No Wave.
>The narratives typically center on interpersonal dynamics and the complexities of modern life, often exploring themes of disconnection and existentialism.
>Neo No-Wave draws on the aesthetic and thematic explorations of the original No Wave movement, which rejected traditional narrative structures and emphasized avant-garde and experimental filmmaking. Films from this movement, like those by directors such as Jim Jarmusch and Lizzie Borden, influenced the style and approach of Neo No-Wave.
>Neo No-Wave can also be seen as an evolution of the American New Wave of the late 1960s and early 1970s, which was known for its innovative storytelling and focus on youth culture. While the original New Wave was characterized by a more polished style and often dealt with broader social themes, Neo No-Wave embraces a rawer, more intimate style that reflects contemporary sensibilities.
>In summary, Neo No-Wave (Proto-Mumblecore) can be viewed as a bridge between the experimental spirit of No Wave and the character-driven narratives of Mumblecore, maintaining a connection to the American New Wave's legacy while innovating in its approach to storytelling and production.
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>>204727090
Lmao this isn't a thing. It's just regular indies. Even no-wave was a huge stretch.
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>>204726791
A re-evaluation of the purported subversive power of no wave cinema within the context of a neoliberal faux-progressive system which has absorbed and commodified the very act of transgression itself.
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>>204726785
Peak Reddit aside from rejecting Leeench.
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>>204726785
Homosexuality is based and beautiful tho
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>>204726056
This and Badlands are way different/better than his later work so I get it.
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Cassavetes mumblecore
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>>204727434
*shoutingcore
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We're all mumblecore here.
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>>204727482
The language of mumblecore connects us all.
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>>204726785
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Joel Haver is the true mumblecore auteur
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>>204726271
His cinema, no. His music, some of it, like Grey (the band he was in with Basquiat), and Bohack, yes.
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>>204727416
I said I didn't like any of his other works but that's excepting Badlands, it's also great yeah. Just not one of my absolute favorites like Days of Heaven
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>>204726785
>We reject [...] AI, [...].
False.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jmmSBssLLM
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>>204727011
my personal favorites
>GOAT Tier
7th Heaven
The Big Parade
The Crowd
Dr. Mabuse, The Gambler
Foolish Wives
The General
Intolerance: Love's Struggle Throughout the Ages
J'Accuse
The Last Laugh
Limite
Napoleon
La Roue
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans
The Thief of Bagdad
>Amazing Tier
The Adventures of Prince Achmed
Battleship Potemkin
Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ
Berlin: Symphony of a Great City
The Birth of a Nation
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
City Girl
City Lights
Diary of a Lost Girl
Die Nibelungen: Kriemhild's Revenge
The Docks of New York
Fantômas
Greed
Hearts of the World
I Was Born, But...
Joyless Street
The Kid
Lucky Star
Metropolis
The Navigator
Our Hospitality
The Outlaw and His Wife
Orphans of the Storm
Pandora's Box
The Passion of Joan of Arc
Phantom
Salt for Svanetia
Tabu
Les Vampires
Way Down East
The White Hell of Pitz Palu
Woman in the Moon
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Claustrophobic thread.
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>>204727609
>Bohack
Throwback to when he made a sockpuppet account to post a 5 star review of that shit on RYM then never logged in again
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>>204727885
Man this guy wishes that he was way bigger than he was. Bet half the posts about him here are from him as well. Sick man
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>>204727885
Kek that's hilarious.
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>>204722887
I think about Tsai’s mooncakes every night.
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>>204727731
best film of 2024
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>>204728006
Who doesn’t?
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I've never seen this film but here's a homoerotic image
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>>204728278
Amazing cast, mediocre film.
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>>204726449
This should not have a wikipedia. All this movement shit is just word salad by charlatans.
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>>204728387
These past 10 years or so every fad gets a wiki page but before that no one bothered to write all that shit
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Haver
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>>204728511
So is he a fag?
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>>204728278
Buffalo '66 prequel.
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>>204728511
>Canadian
Of course
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>>204728511
Why is /film/ obsessed with this guy?
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>>204728714
I know what you mean, but why?
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>>204728797
He's so big
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>>204728797
He was caught posting here and bitching about getting blocked on letterboxd
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>>204728797
It's one sperg.
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>>204727242
let me break it down for you
>New American Cinema
Brakhage, Mekas, Anger, Warhol, etc.
>American New Wave/New Hollywood
Hopper, Hellman, Altman, Allen, etc.
>No-Wave
Jarmusch, Borden, Ahearn, Bertoglio, etc.
>Neo-No-Wave/Proto-Mumblecore
Gallo, Clark, Korine, Hartley, etc.
>Mumblecore
Duplass, Bronstein, Bujalski, Swanberg, etc.
>Post-Mumblecore
Baumbach, Alverson, Perry, Safdies, etc.
>Mumblegore
Saulnier, Wingard, Wheatley, Brice, etc.
>Mumblecore Revival/Neo-Mumblecore
Haver, Kogonada, Cummings, Hill, etc.
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BAKE
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>>204728511
>Haver
What's he having?
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>>204728919
Seems like Haver just invented a wave so he could pretend to lead it.
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>mumblecore
>nowave
What the fuck is this /mu/ sounding terminology
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Let’s do this. Post a song get a rec. https://youtu.be/GMqlmMDJxJQ?si=I-nae5zMQcDDDtG5
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bakin rn
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>>204729036
I know right, this is retarded.
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Can we get back to /film/s already?
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>>204728919
Dolan is more influential than all of them with the wokewave
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>>204728387
you're missing out
https://rateyourmusic.com/film_genre/Remodernist+Film/
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NEW

>>204729186
>>204729186
>>204729186
>>204729186

NEW
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For me, it's dextromodernism.
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For me, it’s sharthouse.



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