true crime genre really is like that isn't it
>>204900391It's one of the strangest thing normalized in society today. It's treated as completely normal to profit off of the brutal murders of children while making jokes about it.
Why do women like true crime so much?
>>204900475Men equally do but I guess its interesting to learn how shit went wrong
>>204900475The want to be bred by murderers. Dahmer fathered several children by prison psychologists.
>14 year old Psychopath Glue Sniffer Kills and Eats Grandmother, Beats Her Dog to Death with a Rubber Fork!!!
>>204900461>profit off of the brutal murders of children while making jokes about it.No one does thatEvery single true crime channel always has 10 minutes talking about how great the victim is and how tragic it is and how terrible the killer isThey basically have a mandated 10 soapbox segment each episode about how "Killing people is BAD!"
>>204900475women need to be aware of all dangers all the time
Part of the reason why I can't suffer commercialised true crime, and prefer reading the actual documents from the case.
>>204900475Morbid curiosity. I also find it interesting but only the more fucked up scenarios.
>>204900391>true crime doc>true crime docuseries>true crime biopic>true crime "are they REALLY bad?">all on the same personi'd love to be the writer who gets paid for these.
>>204900475It affirms the paranoia they feel towards men
>>204900617I thought he was gay with jungle fever
>>204900817>the more fucked up scenarios.Any good examples of these, or links?
>>204900475Serial Killers are interesting until you realize they all boil down too..>I want to fuck my mom and I hurt my head when I was little
>>204900613Isn't the story always "early life trauma" ? i.e. predictable and boring?
>>204900617murder is objectively high test and alpha
>>204900613I'm german and theres this crime Podcast from one of the biggest papers, called Zeit, which mostly has german crimes as a topic. Its well researched without fluff, sometimes they have the involved judges or investgators on. I'd say it's mostly how things escalate quickly, we do not have those kill counts or deranged Killers like the US, it's mostly family intern and work place related, which is fascinating. I am more intersted in how it went down, than who was murdered, the ultima ratio in every humans life
>>204901002He was a pansexual coomerbrain predator like Ewan MacGregor.
>>204900461>It's treated as completely normal to profit off of the brutal murders of children while making jokes about it.You could say the exact same thing about White Christian Conservatoid Trumptards but with guns.
>>204901057>>204901105This is true. I much prefer stories about daring criminals like prison escapes, big heists or robberies, successful swindlers/gamblers etc
>>204901112>we do not have those kill counts or deranged Killers like the USI mean, if you go back a couple decades...
>>204901227Prison escapes are great. James Earle Ray is a good one, what a fucking legend.
>>204900981True Crime fanatics are such a bizarre flavor of sexist, it really rots their mind and reduces their worldview to "All men are monsters, all women are victims." Watch their reaction any time a female killer starts getting discussed, they'll typically start defending her and saying the men in her life drove her to kill.
>>204901124>He was a pansexual coomerbrain predator like Ewan MacGregor.what
>>204900391actually stopped hanging out with my fwb because she'd want to spend all night watching a true crime drama, having sex, then watching another one. Rinse and repeat. Shit was fucking weird
>>204900475>It's "I can fix them" porn for lonely femoids
>>204900475women really really really REALLY love murder and rape that much
>>204900475Women love gossip especially if it is salacious.
>>204900475You know that feeling when it's raining hard outside yet you're safe and warm inside your home? Might be similar to that, looking at other people's terrible lives and fates to feel better about your own
>>204901484damn ur gay bro
>>204900475the feminine urge to be raped and murdered there are equally unhealthy masculine urges to be fair
>>204900669killing people isn't bad. raping people is
>>204901973it was just strange man, don't know what else to tell you. Sex is only so much of a motivator for sitting through inane bullshit for an hour each time just to have it
>>204900391I don't know
>>204900391true crime YouTube videos have turned me into a paranoid schizo
>>204900475Same reason men obsess over wars they were never involved with and would never serve in if they were born at the right era.
>>204901341Ok, I'm open to your Suggestions, Albert fisch maybe, Fritz honka only offed like 6 women.The GDR said, they never had any serial killers, I only remeber one child murderer.Those spooks destroyed everything in '89
>>204900475Shit is basically gossip, desu. And they've been conditioned from TV shows.Shit, the best thing about having a gf during the winter is that this bitch just wants me next to her while she marathons like twenty seasons of SVU.
>>204901016The Hammer maniacs for example
>>204901873True and it’s fascinating the deeper you look at this. It’s the same reason they unthinkingly believe whatever the corporate media tells them, unless they have a dominant man that tells them different. Women need to be in the in-group, and on the small scale that means gossip, and on the large scale that means siding with the media, because that’s what they perceive to be the consensus. It’s the only way they feel secure.
>>204900475They cum when they get raped, so imagine
>>204900391If she was murdered how is she posting on social media?
>>204900475They see themselves as either victims or future victims. They believe the world is out to get them. This ends up a self fulfilling prophecy. Because they become attracted to what is dangerous to them. Like drug addicts. Thats why they want to be fucked by known rapists. Then the rapist kills the woman who is fucking him and all the other women go pikachu face and ask>where have all the good guys goneForgetting the fact they ignored 9 normal guys for the 1 rapist badboy.True crime just gives women what they think will happen to them. It's a victimhood fantasy. Like Handmaid's Tale.
>>204902144But the reasons arent remotely the same.
I unironically think that this canonization of fucked up murders will lead to some of those growing up listening to it to commit their own murders to achieve an eternal notoriety
I don't like true crime as a genre.For me, it's history podcasts (they deal with crimes too but at least real historians have the decency not to be completely vulgar about the issue).
>>204902160I think he meant the Weimar era. Peter Kurten, Fritz Harman, Bruno Ludke, probably more
>>204900475I think that the way they envision violence relies on a submissive role rather than an active role. While men identify with the aggressors (which is why most action cinema is directed for and at men) women do with the victims, and they tend to relish on the monster who would hurt them if he had the chance. Men are also more interested in the fantastical aspect while women are more into the realism.
>>204900475>Why do women like true crime so much?Men will post this as if they don't watch hours of Chinese factory and traffic accident videos.
>>204900475The same reason little girls like classic fairy tales. They like judging other girls when they are horribly punished.
>>204902073ok fag
>>204901112>mostly has german crimes as a topicAren't all your crimes just filthy shitslamist benefit migrants raping and killing white native women so you're not allowed to talk about it or you'll get arrested for hurty words bad.
>>204901112>Its well researched without fluff, sometimes they have the involved judges or investgators onThis is my kind of podcast. Too bad I only know a few words in German and don't intend to learn more.
>>204901410What about the reverse? /pol/shits who say the woman was a trash slut who got what she deserved.
>>204902160I think he meant the 30 Years War, that one got a bit out of hand.
>>204900475I'll never forget the story of this violent rapist who raped and murdered a woman and her young daughter. He got sent to psychotherapy, and guess what? He had an affair with his therapist and got her pregnant. This woman who knew full well the psychological profile of this monster couldn't resist dropping her knickers for him. I found her on LinkedIn and was gonna send her hatemail but I cba.
>>204903288Yes
>>204903475That kind of sounds like Charles Campbell but it may be a different guy.
>>204900692Everyone does. Women just get attention for it, men get told to shut up cause that's life. Women should be told the same, and that if they're so concerned, get a fucking man for protection like a civilized adult.
>>204901112Do they cover crimes committed by non-whites?
>>204901112>I'd say it's mostly how things escalate quickly, we do not have those kill counts or deranged Killers like the US, it's mostly family intern and work place related, which is fascinating.IDK Germany has definitely had its share of serial killers like Klaus Gossman and Thomas Holst, you just don't hear so much about them in the English-speaking world.
>>204901136It IS completely normal to profit off guns, though.
>>204900475gets them all sweaty down below. see >>204901484she was using the true crime to get her in the mood
>>204902054>raping people issays who
>Netflix make a poorly researched and one sided true crime doc>Every femoid decides the killer was actually innocent and should be releasedThis is why they weren't given the vote for centuries.
>>204902651>For me, it's history podcasts (they deal with crimes too but at least real historians have the decency not to be completely vulgar about the issue).Depends on the victim. If it's a child victim, then you can't help but feel bad for them because someone like Samantha Runnion clearly did nothing to deserve what happened to her. Harder to feel sorry for stupid skanks who go in a bar and go off with a stranger while drunk though. Ever heard of Tami Engstrom? She did that to herself.
As another said, the podcasts spend a lot of time pointing out that they're not trying to make light of the situation.TV, on the other hand. There's one show I used to watch a lot, Weird Murders or something like that, where the host blatantly makes fun of those involved. But it also seems to be heavily fictionalized (for one, the host acts as if he was involved in every case). I've seen tasteless ads for other shows too.
>>204900617Dahmer was a faggot whose dick near went near a woman
>>204903309>literally says "what about" in his irrelevant, gay whataboutismGo
>>204900613I dispute that men are equally interestedI think even if men often go through a true crime phase they get over it much faster than women do, who will make it their background noise for decades which I have never seen any man do
>>204900475they regularly have to think "how big is a chance that I will be raped and murdered if I do this or that" so their brain becomes interested in that because human brain becomes interested in what it is already thought about
>>204904147going home with the wrong person actually shouldn't be a death sentence, you weird little freak
>>204904350Nobody thinks you shouldn't kill the murderer, but nobody thinks a dead base jumper wasn't taking a risk
>>204900475they want to be beaten and killed
>>204904344Everyone has to do this, men just don't get attention and sympathy points for it. Everyone has to calculate their odds of harm when making choices, and men are much more liable to encounter harm. The only real way women have it worse is being dumber and weaker, so encountering harm can go worse for them, and total preclusive avoidance is their best shot for survival.
all of the middle aged normie office ladies with husbands and kids that i work with listen to the most horrifying true crime podcasts
>>204901410Women are simple, emotional creatures. This behavior is to be expected.
>>204900692Men are by far the higher percentage victims of violent crime.
>>204904410seriously. lone drunk women are like setting a piece of meat outdoors so wild dogs come and eat it.
>>204904526True, it's not even close.
>>204904458>they want to be beaten and killedNot really. What they get off on is the idea of other women being killed because all women yearn to destroy their rivals.
I like this one
>>204904350Wrong angle. The point is it's an immutable fact about reality that women exposing themselves is a massive risk, and they bear their share of culpability when flagrantly doing so goes predictably wrong.
>>204904147>Depends on the victim. If it's a child victim, then you can't help but feel bad for them because someone like Samantha Runnion clearly did nothing to deserve what happened to herThat is true, she was kidnapped and killed by a total stranger but you have other cases where the kid was murdered because her dumbass single mom dated a violent trash piece of shit.
>>204902651>For me, it's history podcastsCan anyone give me some good recs? I've only listened to In Our Time and Dan Carlin, both of which can be decent. Mostly I listen on my phone when lying down to go to sleep, if that makes any difference.
>>204900391True crime is a bunch of shit>This guy is a total PSYCHOPATH>No, he's a SOCIOPATH! He's so cold and calculating!No you dumb bitch. He's a smelly loser who like all the other smelly losers killed someone to feel adored and labeled as le spoopy psycho!! by NPC cretins like you It's all so tiresomeAnd that goes for all the other made up mental illnesses too
>>204904718Martyr Made is great for 20th century social history.
>>204901016Toy Box Killer is the best I have
that was like Richard Marquette's victims. stupid-ass bar skanks. and both ended up leaving their children without a mother because of their own irresponsibility.
>>204904330lol its possible, I ma bit over true crime, its a bit grim learning about endless murders
>>204904741That must be a comfortingly simple life to lead when things are going well for you, but it does get scary and angering when things go wrong suddenly, doesn't it? All these big things happening just outside your periphery for no real, good reason except someone was "bad". At least you know they're bad, and being able to call them bad and maybe shoot them if the chance arises is some comfort...
>>204904705So the kid deserved to die because her mom had shit taste in men?
>>204904840>lol its possible, I ma bit over true crime, its a bit grim learning about endless murdersDepends on what it is. A case like Betty Broderick is pretty interesting but then the myriad of interchangeable serial killers who go around murdering hitchhikers and prostitutes is fairly meh.
>>204904875No one in the history of the planet has even approached saying anything like that. Aren't you embarrassed to be so immaturely disingenuous? You don't want any problem solved as much as you want to justify your feefees, it's pathetic to witness.
>>204904875no the kid didn't deserve it but its death was again caused by a femoid's bad behavior. Muslims were right about women incidentally.
>>204900391My coworkers work a stressful 10 hour shift and then go home and watch this garbage. They look forward to it, even.
>>204904862I think it's pretty likely media stereotypes glorifying serial killers have gotten a few people murdered by people that want that self-imageAnd forget about mass shooters, that era where they'd sympathetically psychoanalyze all of them and question if they were bullied or mistreated and so on like the Columbine kids probably got hundreds killed by dingbats that wanted that for themselves.
>>204904949>No one in the history of the planet has even approached saying anything like that.That was exactly what the post I was replying to was implying.
>hey you!>We got a really spooky one today friends just in time for Halloween ! >This one's gonna really gonna put the jeepers in your creepers!>Unfortunately for our victim, this was one trick or treat she wasn't expecting>After she opened the door, the attacker stabbed her multiple times In both eye sockets. A real peace of shit that guy was!>I can't say what he did to her lifeless body, let's just say, it wasn't very nice. Did I mention that guy was a real peace of shit!>That's all for now folks, take care and don't let the bed bugs bite!
>>204900391lol
>>204900461You can 100% blame Family Guy and South Park for this phenomenon. Those shows normalized laughing at brutality. And millions of kids watched them during their formative years.
>>204904862>All these big things happening just outside your periphery for no real, good reason except someone was "bad".Yes unironically, real life isn’t anime or a movie Most bad people were just born that way, no le heckin tragic backstory to explain themselves, they are just pieces of shit simple as
>>204905115Wildly incorrect. It was: that outcome was extremely predictable, so grandstanding about the injustice is morally wrong when you were told that the vote you were casting was for the Leopard's Eating Your Face Party. Nowhere does this say the child deserved anything.
>>204904862What are you babbling on about schizo. Stop watching movies. NBK was 100% right. "Too much television". That's literally it. "Oh em gee le charismatic psychopath" stfu, cattle
>>204905231Incorrect. The ways people act badly, become bad, etc. are very complex. There are in fact very different types of every crime (rape, murder...) with very different causes and solutions.
>>204900461It’s not a modern thing. People have been fascinated with terrible crimes for centuries, the hysteria around Jack the Ripper comes to mind
So I live in the Allentown, PA area. We don't have mnay notable true crime stories here, just generic street crime like Hernando robs a liquor store. Harvey Robinson killed several people in the early 90s and I read about (another) bar skank in the 1940s who was killed in a cemetery by this ape-like fuck with a fivehead. He was executed for that murder because they didn't screw around in those days.
>>204905261Nothing, I didn't babble.>le charismatic psychopathYou're completely fabricating quotes and attributing them to me, now. Weak.
>>204905199Girls didn’t.
>>204905236>Samantha Runnion clearly did nothing to deserve what happened to her>That is true [...] BUT you have other cases where [...]The implication was crystal clear.
>>204905128is he gay or just a bit zesty?
If women want to masturbate about people getting killed so much, why don't they watch history documentaries about war and death camps? The Solovki Prison camp saw a huge amount of prisoners getting killed and abused but for some reason when the law allows it, women just stop being interested.
>>204905398Yes, that some of the women bore a large share of the culpability for how they ended up. Which is factually correct. And completely distinct from saying "and their child that the guy killed also deserved it!" (the topic of my contention). I have refuted you.
California, Texas, and Florida are like the Mecca of serial killers. More in those states per capita than anywhere else in the US.
>>204905450Also that's pretty mass on mass, and it's depersonalizes things too much. Women want the victim (the substitute for them) to be individual, ideally special.
>>204904718Inward Empire and the Dangerous History Podcast are both really good, though both only do American history. DHP is a hardcore libertarian iconoclast, which isn’t really my thing but he always makes great points.
>>204900461>>204900475People have always had a casual attitude towards death. You're complaining about the vvest fallvn because of podcasts, but in the past the entire public sat through public hangings, burnings, drownings, and lashings.
>>204905328>kid spends entire childhood torturing small animals, bullying other kids, stealing and assaulting >in and out of prison his whole adult life for constant violent drug and property crimes>ends up killing 2 hookers and is arrested>WOOOOWWWWW this obvious violent psycho subhuman is an obvious violent psycho subhuman!!!! What could have made him this way, I bet it’s socioeconomic factors, so deep and complex!
>>204905502it helps to be warm weather states where being homeless and living outdoors all year round is possible so they attract lots of transients
>>204905479>Depends on the victimAre you claiming the mother of the hypothetical murdered child was the victim of that crime?
>>204902981they like war, police bodycam footage of minorities being murdered, and mass shootings instead
>>204905535Then why don't they watch holocaust documentaries then if they want to feel special?>depersonalizes things too muchWhat kind of piece of shit doesn't care for human lives like this.
>>204901136go back to blue sky faggot
>>204900475According to an fbi profiler on a podcast i was listening to, women like true crime serial killer shit because psychologically they are educating themselves on how to avoid serial killers.
>>204905610You seem very sure you're making a point, but that's not actually occurring. You've highlighted a single of many ways that one of many kinds of crimes ends up happening. Learn more!
>>204905700The appeal behind true crime is that it is possible for it to happen to them. It doesn't happen in war torn shit horns but in developed countries.
>>204905370>Me me meNo one's talking about you. No one cares about you. I'm talking generally.
>>204905668>>Depends on the victimI didn't say this.>Are you claiming the mother of the hypothetical murdered child was the victim of that crime?No.
>>204905757he's 100% right, you're no better because you watch war crimes and police bodycam footage
>>204905792
>>204905792T. woman>Nooo don't just tell him to shut up, he needs to talk to 100 therapists and he needs psychoactive drugs to be okay!Shut it
>>204905786No, that person was incorrect, and very possibly they were intentionally lying in order to put forth a more politically correct narrative. The truth is women are sexually turned on by the idea of being overpowered, raped, and murdered.
>>204900391Weird how twitterfags will talk shit about true crime channels but not say anything about general horror channels like Nexpo and Crowley even though theyre infinitely more popular and do the exact same thing
>>204905891I actually prefer watching Indians get run over by trains thoughbeit
So there was Molly McClure. This was '80s Seattle and she was one of those "career" women types who was still single at 28, and she invited a nog with a felony record into her apartment (although she didn't know that) a couple times. She died and the nog got life without parole and is still in prison. The end.
>>204901136
>>204905700>What kind of piece of shit doesn't care for human lives like this.It's not about "not caring" it's about different kinds of caring. They way you care when a loved family member dies is very different than the way you care when you hear X country shot a missile and it hit a school. Women, people, can't self-inserted into a mass of people, the do so into individuals. This is why war and muh holohoax movies always follow to story of particular characters, and why a dry documentary bird's-eye-viewing the same events feels very different. The former is the kind of caring that women who love true crime shit are engaging in, with an excessive emphasis on imagining themselves in whatever scenario.
>>204902030Like what
IDK my sister must be the exception to the rule. She doesn't like true crime stuff at all because she says it could happen IRL and is too scary.
>>204905819The Kent state massacre happened to US women
>>204905786Some probably are but that's gonna be far from the majority. Some people watch crime shit to learn how they could go about doing crime shit, but most people just like the heists and pews as spectacles.
>>204906112They were literally asking for it.
>>204905842Incorrect.>>204905908I'm correct.>>204905934That's n
>>204904526not when it comes to abductions, sexually motivated killings, etc.
>>204906100your sis sounds based. introduce me to her.
>>204905345Jack The Ripper was a jew
>>204902637They are all waiting for their chance.
I self insert as the person being interrogated in all those types of yt videos from the past handful of years
>>204905934**That's not how that works. I'm just pointing out over-simplification, and I'm correct.
>>204905786And grandpa drank that whiskey for his cough. *wink*
>>204906086rape and murder
>>204900391>4channelers will moralfag over content like this while having weekly threads about how based this guy is
>>204900391Sounds like the toll got paid, case closed
>>204904410>>204904695cope, you tried being a murderer apologist and victim blamer and utterly failed
>>204906119>Some people watch crime shit to learn how they could go about doing crime shitAlways wear gloves to not leave fingerprints, don't start blabbing to cops the moment they question you, never represent yourself in court, make sure to erase your Google search history (eg. "how long does body take to decompose") etc.
>>204906285>you tried being a murderer apologist No>and victim blamerNo I pointed out that no one's saying a crackwhore's kid deserved it.>and victim blamerThoughbeit I do apportion an appropriate amount of responsibility to the crackwhore, yes.
>>204905865Try reading the entirety of >>204904705 again.The quoted part was referring to the VICTIM not deserving it, while the reply included a "but", implying the child in that example did, in fact, deserve it.There's no ambiguity. You are just retarded.
>>204906329A big thing you learn from learning to do crime is don't cause it's way too easy to fuck up.
>>204900391Lmao this is literally Morbid, and before that Crime Junkies
>>204906062I mean only 4 people died at Kent State but for some reason the fact that it was justifiable homicide according to the law and it was law enforcement that did it, turns women off. Which is weird because they were all over George Floyd.
>>204906370>Try reading the entirety of >>204904705 again.Done.>while the reply included a "but", implying the childNo, the blame was on the violent piece of shit the mom dated, and then to a lesser but appropriate degree, the mother for dating the piece of shit. Nowhere was the kid themselves apportioned any blame.
>the worst rapist!>the mid rapist!>the best rapist!
>>204905614Also large states with lots of empty land.
>>204906424Kent State is also always presented in its political context, making the story the political ideas and feelings around it, and the killings just fodder for how right one side is and wrong the other is. The victims themselves aren't the point when that incident is covered.
I never really understood the process of 'profile building' and 'identifying the motive' as a helpful tool employed to catch a serial killer or predict his next moves.Why does there need to be some hidden mystifying reason for some unhinged mongoloid to run amok killing people?Is this a movie only thing or do professionals actually try to 'scientifically decode' the behavior of a cretin with killer instincts?
Kortne Stouffer, Jessica Chambers, Gabby Petito
>>204906472I would like to think of myself as the best, but there's that famous stat about how most people judge themselves to be a bit above average, so I'm probably low-mid at best.
>>204906537Maybe because the political ideas are the fucking point? Do women even know what those kids were protesting for or are women just that braindead?
>mother and two little girls brutally murdered and stuffed in oil barrels by their own father>30 year old neckbeards with a 4chan thread: ASS DRUK SELF DEFENSE FOR NUGGIES UH YEAH SO IF YOU SEE THOSE KIDS TELL THEM TO CALL ME
>>204906329I'm pretty sure Ronald O'Bryan was the stupidest murderer I've ever heard of.
>>204906537Does this mean 20 years from now nobody will know or care about BLM? Since women are too stupid to follow political contexts.
>>204906541>Why does there need to be some hidden mystifying reason for some unhinged mongoloid to run amok killing people?Because different people do different things for different reasons, and when they cover up their crimes sufficiently, using the aspects of the crime that they didn't/can't cover up can lead you fairly reliably to "the husband did it" vs "the jealous lover did it" vs "the somolian scientist who just came here for a better life did it", etc.>do professionals actually try to 'scientifically decode' the behavior of a cretin with killer instincts?Not out of some philosophical "desire to know", only as a means of winnowing suspects and following the lead to the specific person most likely to have done it.
>>204906595Those threads are pretty funny thoughbeit
>>204900932I think being the guy who gets to write the "HITLER'S SECRET [insert anything here]" documentaries would be easier and pay better though.
>>204906595/threadimpossible to recover from this
>>204906568>Gabby Petito>two white trash junkies get into a fight and one kills the otherNever understood what was so interesting about this case.
>>204906592This is why women don't care all that much about the victims of Kent State in and of themselves. Woman are just that braindead.
>>204906595babbys first gallows humour
>>204905967There is...nothing wrong with...the stilted cadence...or shameless plagiarism...of Nexpo...
>>204906541All the profiling shit was basically a fraudulent fad
>>204906652The women who care about Israel/Palestine today don't even give a shit about the Irgun/Haganah, and that's directly part of the same story of the same side they hate, in an issue they claim to care about. Women really are that braindead.
>>204902160>The GDR said, they never had any serial killers, I only remeber one child murderer.Erwin Hagedorn.
>>204905376Everyone watches Family Guy. My cousins watch it as a family together, kids and all.
the problem is watching/listening to true crime shows made by women. the ones made by men just focus on objective facts and police investigation.
>>204900391At least on youtube there are two types of true crime channels.The ones that focus on the crimes, and the ones that focus on the dude that tells the crimes.There is that channel called Coffeehouse Crime that's full of female simps that go on and on about how awesome the dude's voice is, while he talks about the most violent shit out there.>"Cozy up and enjoy a coffee, while I tell you about how this 14 year old girl got raped by 20 guys before she got dismembered and fed to a bunch of pigs."Absolutely fucking wild.
>>204906742>no think of le heckin victims!!Stop virtue signaling retard, people watch these kinds of things for danger, thrills, excitement, you don’t care either why are you pretending like you do? It’s really annoying
>>204906823It was pared down to a much more technical, material part of criminology over time. It was pioneered by people who "deeply wanted to know" and most of it was abandoned when that proved mostly fruitless for solving case-by-case. Where that kind of study has any value is across a huge preponderance of cases, but even from that, you can't bring that much back from the academic world into the detective trenches.
>>>/his/17210411Ah the bad old days before divorce was acceptable so women couldn't get rid of an abusive POS husband outside of killing him.
>>204906541I think it's mostly a movie/tv thing now, law enforcement has basically retired it. Most killers will be caught with standard evidence based homicide investigation
>>204907002>Stop virtue signaling retardI'm not, I'm just denigrating women. Climb out of my ass, faggot. I'm not saying I care or anyone should, I'm saying women pretend to and that their actual motives are much baser and easy to discern.
>>204906229Stop letting other monkeys tell you your ape brain problems are real
>>204907042Those were the good old days. The women sacrificed to abusive POSes, and the POSes sacrifices to murderous women who "just couldn't take it any more" were more than compensated for by the security of society having real marriages as a building block.
>>204900475Because I accidentally broke my brain and now I need something playing in my headphones 24/7 or I won't function, true crime is one of the great slopmax genres.
>>204904058Holes
>>204907080>I don’t care>that’s why I’m crying over a bunch of dead commie retards
>>204905975For me it's Brazilian police spankings
>>204905376Girls did. Every borderline normie girl you meet in an undergrad liberal arts program loves South Park and Family Guy.
>>204907042Then again there was Randy Roth. I mean, 1991 wasn't the fucking 1800s but his wife was too Christian to divorce him even when she knew he was an abusive controlling POS, and finally he drowned her in a fucking lake.
>>204907091It's not anyone "telling" anyone anything. You, me, a kid raised in cartel streets, and Jeffrey fucking Dahmer are all very different psychologically. Suppose we all killed a victim each, the reasons why are vastly different. This isn't imagined. People have inner worlds. Maybe you don't, and this concept baffles you, but it's a feature of the wider species of which you're a barely-clinging member.
>>204907177But the holes get wet when you rape them
I like to watch Franco and Pinochet documentaries because I like to daydream about mass killing my political opponents and sleeping like a baby over it, knowing God and the law are on my side and I'm going to pass away of natural death in my old age with people still bringing flowers to my tomb 40 years on. This is the true dream folks.
>>204907181>that’s why I’m crying over a bunch of dead commie retardsI'm not, though. I don't have all that much sympathy for anyone at Kent State. I'm discussing the topic as an example of when women care about violent , not emotionally invested in the drama of it.
lotta this itt
>>204907369**I'm discussing the topic as an example of when women care about violent crime and why, not emotionally invested in the drama of it myself.
>>204901112Look up the murder of Michael Spang, that one's hilarious. He was actually American but he was murdered in Germany by a butthurt punk rocker. It should honestly be a fucking Tatort episode if it hasn't been already.
>post: |>post, twitter : O
>>204902078https://vocaroo.com/1mU8xGGa5LVm
>>204904058Arthur Fleck
>>204907152Go detox from stimulation.
>>204907356>FrancoHe was a good man.
Samuel Little is believed the most prolific serial killer in US history but he's not even well known because he and most of his victims were black.
>>204907492People get more invested in innocent victims that are fully human.
>>204902078https://vocaroo.com/6tNgTtvFEH
>>204901422puta's ex husband hands wrote that post
>>204907424True, you also don't see terrorist attacks being covered in that stuff either, like islamist organizations make a shitton more victims than whatever murderer of the day does BUT they are political and they want to bring on a new law so women don't care
in Little's case his psychological profiling is trivially easy to figure out>his mother was a prostitute so he hated prostitutes and resolved to kill as many as he could especially if they were black>a few of his victims were white or Latinx but about 80% were black>he had a traveling companion/girlfriend who was almost 30 years older than him probably because she resembled his grandma whom he was attached to as she mostly raised him
>>204907356Franco was innocent, all the murders were done by the left during pre-civil war times, after the war what he did what apply justice.
>>204906586What are your stats? I've got:>3 by outright force>12 by intoxication>4 statutory19 rapes is pretty good, I think.
>>204907639>channel about murderers and serial killers>why aren’t terrorist attacks covered? Are you retarded
I wish there were more Mt Everest documentaries. Something more involved about Green Boots or Sleeping Beauty, etc., but youtubers can't show corpses anyway.
>>204907739>4 statutorySHE WAS 17 YEARS AND 360 DAYS OLD, YOU SICK...
>>204902279was that the case of the teens luring old people with dementia out in the woods and then beating them to death with a hammer? That was fucked, I never watched another gore video after that
>>204907762>terrorist attacks don't involve murder
>>204907739You're black, aren't you?
>>204900475Women are sociopaths.
>>204907887Nope: white, blond, blue. I just really like rape.
>>204907002>people watch these kinds of things for danger, thrills, excitement, you don’t careNormalizing this was strange to begin with, nta but I "care" enough to not watch them for the most part
>>204907762When muslims beheaded Samuel Paty in France what was that, a legal killing?
>>204905687I find it hilarious how you have to quiver in terror every time you waddle your fat ass into a Walmart lmao
>>204900475Addicted to thrills
I tend to think Dean Corll is the most frightening serial killer of all time.
>>204906595Watts stuff was almost unavoidable if you use this board and there was just 1 person making the same threads everyday about it ">I really miss those kids"
>>204907963Have yet to see a true crime media address that murder.
>>204905580Those were bad people though. Your post is as stupid as someone generalizing that all whatever is bad.
>>204907865Terrorists are a kind of murderer, yes, but that’s not the main focus of the channel, which is usually just individual murderers and not organized criminal groups. It’s like a channel that focuses on planes, suddenly making a video about hot air balloons because they’re both vehicles that fly around, it’s technically true but that’s not why people are there.
>>204907314Yeah but holes like to maintain the illusion they're in control. They don't like to admit they like when something tries to fill them up
>>204908220Are women aware that organized criminal groups can do far more damage than any individual murderer can, yes?
>>204906541You'd better hope that a criminal has some rhyme or reason to his actions, cause if it's totally random you'll never catch him
>>204906186I wouldn't let her date someone from 4chan.
>>204907492>blackand prostitutes, drug addicts, and vagrants.Low class victims are not considered interesting.You could strangle 100 junkies and no one will bother to make a podcast episode about you unless you have some gimmick like dressing like a clown or bizarre corpse mutilation.
>>204908312Always wondered why there wasn't any serial killer that would just pick random names out of the phonebookMaybe there was
>>204908369There isnt really because that not how humand minds work. No one just randomly starts killing random people.
>>204908445So you're saying Hitler had a reason to go after jews?
>>204908300>Are women aware that organized criminal groups can do far more damage than any individual murderer can, yes?And? What’s your point? A hurricane can cause far more damage than a sinkhole, so are you saying videos should never be made about sinkholes? Something’s capacity to cause damage isn’t related to how interesting it is.
>>204900475gets their rocks off
>>204907639Yes the overall point here is women don't really care about the victims. Care, when it arises, is for themselves, and this is best done on a one-on-one basis.
>>204908470Yeah.
>>204908295I like to fill them up :)
>>204904758MM looks great, just what I was looking for, thanks a lot anon. >>204905579These look good too, thanks.
>>204908516Except all that shit is going to be pointless when there's lawful death squads rounding up you and your family and no, you can't do anything about it because YOU are on the bad side of the law.
>>204908300>Are women awaregonna stop ya right there
>>204908470>>204908523Oye very shut it down
>>204908706I like to make them bigger
>>204908744I'm the good guys. To me goes the spoils, anon.
>>204908056Looks like a nice chap.
>>204908359>about you unless you have some gimmick like dressing like a clown orSheila Keen-Warren. That is all.
>>204908300Women care about some perceived emotional aspect of serial killing.Organized crime is more like a violent industry than a passionate act.Pedro the gang member chopping up Sanchez the rival gang member is not interesting because the motivation (money) is so obvious.
>>204908873kek I love the theatrics
>>204900391Murder makes women horny.
>>204909005>Pedro the gang member chopping up Sanchez the rival gang member is not interesting because the motivation (money) is so obvious.I know a chick who likes stuff like this, but she's not picky, and it's just excessively morbid fascination with violence. I think she's actually dented in the head. Suicides, cartel killings, you name it she watches it.
>>204900391>women
Ronald Gene Simmons. That guy, that fucking guy, man.
>>204901002That's just Ryan Murphy's sexual fantasy. In truth Dahmer fucked plenty of pussy.
>>204900475>>204902144>>204902603They are the same. Humans are problem solvers by nature and when something goes wrong we want to try and prevent that from happening again. When women hear about a woman being murdered they want to know exactly how & why that happened so they themselves can avoid being in that situation. Men don't want themselves or their sons being drafted at 18 into a war they don't give a shit about so they need to learn the entire political landscape of every side to find out why the conflict started in the first place and what can they do or what needs to change so it never happens again. No one wants to die. It's really that simple.
From personal experience a lot of this true crime stuff can be used for people who are kind of messed up in the head to watch them and say to themselves "Well at least I'm not THAT messed up"
>>204900692Who guaranteed women that nothing bad was every going to happen to them?
>>204909152We're also problem causers, and when something goes wrong we want to try and cause that to happen again.
>>204900391>It's been 11 years>Still no 5-part true crime docu-dramaWhat's the angle here?
>>204909142>has an incest baby with his own 16 yo daughterDamn.
>>204909329Originally, their male guardians, who ensured this to a miraculous degree. Now, it's other women, but they want this without the limits of the guardians' custody, and of course that's not how reality works, and they're very mad about this and unwilling to accept that it's a result of their choices.
>>204908359Smart criminals specifically target undesirables like minorities or criminals because police and communities are less likely to look for them.
>>204908369There are but you'll never know. Nobody would even think that the murders are connected.
>>204909572The problem with undesirables is that I do not desire them.
>>204909341He's black, that's why. Only non-white I can think of them caring about is Adnan Syed.
>>204909572Yes, that is common understanding by now.The real puzzle is how many black drug-addicted hooker hobos one has to decapitatebefore one becomes as interesting as a killer who has only tortured two white middle class college students to death.
>>204909316>true crime episode starts going into the past of the killer>as XXX spiraled deeper into isolation and madness, his behavior changed, going straight to and from school every day without any kind of interaction with others. Classmates reported that while he was not aggressive, he never spoke a word unless directly spoken to, just sitting in silence in an unsettling manner >have to pause the video and pace around the room a few times before watching the rest of it, sometimes have to wait until tomorrow
>>204905687All those combined amount to less than an hour per year.
>>204900475They get off on watching the extreme end of the dark triad from the comfort of their own homes.
>>204900475You wouldn't get it.
>>204909334If it's for personal gain yeah. Just like not wanting to die.
>>204911262I want others to die.
>>204902637lolI bet you think playing GTA turns kids into killers too
I can't have any respect for a chick who gets wet over real life murders on tv. It's very odd, I'd much rather be single than have to watch that weird shit. Play videogames like a normal person instead.
>>204900475Women love being killed.
>>204911489Playing a ton of those games have caused me to look around my environment for crime opportunities, esp cars, just as a subtle background reflex.There's no resistance required on my part to not follow such an intrusive thought, but there are retards out there. One or two copycats of just about anything will always happen (see dudes dyeing their hair and acting like the Joker).
>>204911578>I can't have any respect for a chickCoulda stopped there.
>>204911320Psychopaths make up 1% of the population but this is 4chan you're probably just a schizo
>>204911751I think you may be underestimating the proportion of the population that wants others to die, anon.
>>204902078I knew a retard just like this in high school except he wore the same hellsing tshirt every day.
>>204906224literally me
>>204901016Can’t remember his name but there was a black guy in Atlanta that specifically targeted other blacks. He said something like “do you know how many crimes I can prevent if I kill a nigger baby?” He was thinking about all of the future kids that kid would have, and all of the crimes they would grow up to commit. I think it was the 80’s or 90’s.
>>204912305Jesse Lee Peterson
>women: to be a woman is to live in constant fear. We have to clutch our car keys at night...>also women: no I don't think I should be allowed to own a gun for self-defense.>also women: why yes I do think we should import millions of criminals from the rape capitals of the world.>also women: proposes to imprisoned serial killers
true crime is only good if theres some mystery or huge twist or evidence that doesnt add up, I dont care about some random murder
>>204906979And he has a british accent on top of all of that.
>>204907386
>>204903662Sorry bro. Hope things get better for you.
>>204900613>Men equally doI'm a male true crime fan but this is objectively false. True crime viewers/listeners are overwhelmingly female.
>>204912788Yeah there's a fundamental difference in the viewership by gender, both quantitatively and qualitatively.
Why are people acting sensitive over this now? It’s normalHow else do you think human beings cope with how delicate their lives and the lives of everybody they know really is?We can’t just live in fear constantly. This is a better alternative
>>204904464These same women look at you weird if they find out you carry a gun.
>>204912530They think they're the character in the movie who doesn't die but gets to see all the spicy drama unfold
>watched all of the true crime videos>watched all of the caving incident videos>watched all of the aviation incident videos>watched all of the naval incident videos>watched all of the crowd crush videos>watched all of mr ballen's gay storytelling videosWhere do I go from here?
>>204912949Unless you fire it directly at them. >>204911113
>>204900461Not really, in many corners of the internet there's growing moralist outrage and a push to focus only on the victims. (and weirdly to hand the government more powers of censorship when it comes to coverage of crime).
>>204906265He had to get it on. They were making a move, with the nuggies.
>>204900461It's literally always been this way retard
>>204900617I think you are confusing him with Bundy, who even then only fathered one child. Dahmer was very gay.
>>204900617>>204913231Diane Downs has had multiple children since she was incarcerated for shooting her 3 children, killing one.
>>204912904Rise of psychology culture and the Marxist idea that everything about people is conditioned and re-conditionable. These tend us towards looking for the ways everything icky and mean and unflattering and inconvenient and scary can be psychopathologized, rendered in feel-good neo-Marxist utopianism, and prescribed an ineffectual and non-sensical solution (usually amounting to justifying a scapegoat everyone can viciously abuse). Just having someone you're allowed to hate and harm is actually more cathartic than it seems, and this allows a culture to limp on blind on Marxism for longer than you'd reasonably think.>tl;dr so that we can vent our violence on approved targets
>>204905128>peace
>>204901410I know. Aileen Wuornos basically has a fanclub on Reddit who excuse her actions quite bluntly with no nuance and boo hoo "she had no other path in life"
>>204913017Get out of the stands, and onto the playing field, friend.
>>204913448I'm pretty sure committing crimes is against the law. I'll have to get in a plane crash or die in an underwater cave, I guess.
>>204913590
>>204906472I like the serial killer who was nicknamed "The Sex Beast"
>>204913385Nobody does that for Alyssa Bustamante, who actually apologized for her crime. Aside from a few weird simps, people absolutely hate her. To be fair, she did murder a 9 year old girl.
>>204913863
>>204906100Show me your sisters vagina.
>>204913938You can really see the light fade from her eyes in the mugshots.
>>204913863>Alyssa Bustamante, who actually apologized for her crimeshe doesn't even need me to fix her, she just needs me to save her brehs
>>204913149jfc
>>204913017Industrial workplace incident videos.
>>204906184Why does the motivation matter when its still men being killed more?
>>204914245That'll scratch the itch. Ballen did a lot of those.
>>204914156She was denied parole not long ago. She can next apply in 2029. Write her a letter.
>>204906652A major media and UN talking point that justified the overthrow of Sadam was a story about his soldiers taking babies out of incubators and leaving them on the cold floor to die.How many people care anout that now?
>>204908056Just read the wiki and the "final confrontation" is right out of a movie.
>>204914245ΔP
>>204914883>DIVER 1 NO
>>204914516Not me!
>>204900475>female friend talking about the latest serial killer show she's watching>make a joke about how all women seem to love serial killers etc>she gets offended "not all women" etc>week later she's telling me about another serial killer show she's watching
>>204900461The difference between some sort of ethics (even if pretense from hypocritical Christians) doing true crime hustles, + independent career women unbounded by any moral codes other than being some artist/wordsmiths of "content". I used to be SO annoyed by the pollyannas on WEBSLEUTHS, but they had some morals & threw ~prayers for the victims a lot.
>>204915078Meanwhile, Chris Watts gets so many love letters he uses them like trading cards