Why isn't the The Shield mentioned with all time great shows like The Wire, Sopranos or Breaking Bad? I think it belongs there.I just finished rewatching it and it was great. It was airing in the same years as Sopranos and The Wire but it didn't develop such cult fanbase, why is that?
>>205042020>Why isn't the The Shield mentioned with all time great showsit is by people with a clue
>>205042020It was airing in the same years as Sopranos and The Wire but it didn't develop such cult fanbase, why is that?not many people had fx or knew how to pirate
>why aren't more mongrel NPC's poisoning any and all discussion to be had about this program, which is the greatest ever aired on televisionShut up and go away.
>>205042020It's made by Indians
The Shield was the first "prestige" TV I ever watched, unless you count OZ. After watching Breaking Bad and The Wire I put it to the wayside. But in retrospect I think it might actually be better than both those shows. Certainly more entertaining. I had more fun watching Vic Mackey than I did Walter White.
>>205042280The characters and the writing were supreme. The way it was shot was also great. It was made by real people with an understanding of how to expertly craft drama and suspense, all anchored by multi-dimensional characters who were given immense development. It's the greatest TV program that's ever been aired. It's a blessing that it never became big because what is precious, is only known to a handful. I'm glad it's not a big show and most don't know about it. Makes it even better.
>>205042020>Why isn't the The Shield mentioned with all time great showsIt is, many times. Lurk moar.
Was his other show The Commish any good?
>>205042020idk, I was gonna say "it's unironically too good" but The Wire gets threads here and there. I started watching the shield because of a couple of meme/funny scenes but the show is legitimately really good. Absolutely fantastic characters, great story progression for the main cast, and an actual just solid, good fucking ending for once.
>>205042376The only thing that's a bit of a stain is Kurt Sutter saying that truck driver in SoA was Vic Mackey. Of course, it's just him saying it but he shouldn't have.
>>205042367damn, glad he finally let the hair go
>>205034577
>>205042396if only the avgn could be convinced to do the same
It's pretty good but I hate how side characters kind of just get hung out to dry, especially Dutch since he was the most fun/interesting side character that had almost nothing to do with the strike team. A lot of the side characters felt like they had an arc building up but it either got cut short it went nowhere which really makes them feel pointless in the end, like the spic trainee girl
Amazing that one of the cast became a murderer in real life, and it's certainly not who you would guess!
>>205042020Normies don't care what's good, they're watching marvel shit right now
>>205042020It's not ever boring. Pretentious people need boring so they can pretend to enjoy it.
>>205042258What's your favorite show, anon?
>>205043279I'll give you my top 10>1. the shield>2. true detective (up until s2)>3. nip/tuck>4. narcos/narcos:mexico>5. suburgatory >6. everybody hates chris>7. new girl>8. rules of engagement>9. bad monkey (that new one with vince vaughn)>10. king of queensvery random list but these are the shows i watched and most enjoyed in my life thus far. it's not prestige tv dramas alone. i like sitcoms and cutesy shows as a breather from more heavy stuff.
How come I hate this show so much, is it the little bald guy that's filtering me what?
>>205042361/tv/ is full of zoomies who believe if the show doesn't have the buzz and acclaim of Breaking Bad it means it's some hidden fucking gemerald nobody ever heard about
>>205042316>It was made by real people with an understanding of how to expertly craft drama and suspensethat's only partially true, it was an accident. shawn ryan is a boring shitter who is only capable of pumping out boring procedurals and the other major writer was kurt sutter who is a brilliant but insane retard who constantly inserts his fetishes into his shows. it was shawn tard wrangling kurt's radical fantasies into a police procedural that just happened to capture lightning in a bottle. it is the best cop show ever made and one of the all time best for any genre if you have any taste, but it could just as easily been a forgettable corny mess like the unit or sons of anarchy.kurt sutter was the lead writer on THE episode
>>205042390>Kurt Sutter saying that truck driver in SoA was Vic Mackeyhe didnt say that
>>205042020It’s just the Wire but boring.
>>205044020someone did because i remember hearing that.>>205044005The best art is always made when a bunch of people filter each other out and in at appropriate amounts. I wouldn't call what Ryan did afterwards but but certainly less engaging and daring. I liked his new Netflix show. It was fun with no politically diseased bullshit. Kurt is a strange person, needless to say. He made a medieval show no one watched and now went back to milking sons of anarchy for all it's worth. fall from grace, suffice to say. Same thing with the Sopranos and any other great show. Too many cooks in the kitchen is bad but one is just as bad. You need the right handful. A writer's room back in 2002 when the shield was conceived must have been fun to be apart of.
>>205044342he said something to the tune of "i wanted it to be symbolic, that 2 of my main characters crash into each other", nowhere does he say or imply that it was vic
the sopranos stuff is autistics sharing memesThe Shield didn't produce any memes
>>205044443But that's what he's saying.
>>205044475>memeswhy can't people just enjoy a show. why does it have to have some dumb parasocial internet nonsense attached to it for people to give it a chance? oversocialization through the internet is the biggest plague of our times.
>Previously on the shield>Police! On your knees ma--UGH!>Let's see that mouth, man>Suck it!>Haaaah... Haaaahhh...>Gkkk... ugh... Ghkk...
>>205044545HE'S PISSIN ALL OVER US
>>205044545I love how realistic the Shield is at times, frankly.>Acevada gets raped>Finally confides in his wife>She's disgusted>Treats him like he's a gay degenerate>Is maybe a heartbeat away from divorcing him>All because he was raped against his willOther shows would have the wife be caring and concerned and loving and supportive, and she'd take them to therapy and it would all work out.
>>205043367>no indian shows on your top 10List ignored
>>205044616I liked the storyline with the gay nigger cop. I never got the sense they were preaching one way or the other about him being gay being good or whatever, they just portrayed such a storyline.
>>205042020it's better than all of them but it's not reddit enough for the normalfag audience
Overrated dadslop. Show is just good not great. Finale is excellent though
>>205043367> suburgatoryYou have my respect. Alan Tudnyk (sp?) is criminally underrated
You can tell most people who shit on this have never actually seen it because the first episodes is one of the craziest balls to the wall first episodes you can have and highly meme-able>>205044656His is crazy because he pretty much stops talking about the gay shit altogether and he seemingly lives a happy life with his wife and cuckson. They show he has some slip ups with thoughts but it never goes anywhere or implies he's heading towards disaster
I still think the Shield has the greatest final episode pay off of any show I've seen.
>>205044716I mostly watched those comedy shows I listed because they had a cute woman as the main lead.
DAAAAAAAAAY
>>205044616>they made you....suck?she should have filed for divorce right there
>>205044616>>205044656The Shield was the only show I've ever seen that did this and it did it so incredibly well. Never writing stories to preach something to the audience, just showing very believable and flawed characters that felt human going through their struggles, whether because of their identity or beliefs, and never having all the right answers. Characters like Claudette would be a mess to watch in a usual story but in The Shield she is done extremely well.
>>205044545>Previously on the shield>We shot....A COP!>When I say suck mah dick you say you want me lick yo balls daddy?>SUCK IT!
>>205044814Easily the best pilot episode ever, the fact they not only had that build up and twist to establish Mackey as the protagonist, but also concurrently had the kidnapper subplot going on at the same time to establish every other character at the farm. Shit was done to absolute perfection, the events of the pilot had weight that was felt in every subsequent episode.
>Previously on The Shield: Shane fucked up again
>>205042020considering how obscure it is irl, the shield gets disproportionate attention hereit's better this way, less retards poisoning the discussion
>>205042562hmmm wutThe point of the "side characters" was to show that regardless of what happens with/to the strike team the hood and cops never really change, I'm not even really sure how you could miss this especially since you point out the spic whose entire arc almost perfectly parallels the arc of Julian who we see from season one, but starting later in the series. It's practically the same premise as the overarching themes in the Wire except less hamfisted.
>The Shield thread>0 mention of Billings
>>205045226except she unfortunately didnt partake in a graphic homosexual relationship
>>205045359Massive plot hole in my opinion.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zErSNwAr-3kimo the shield peaks here.
>>205044616The funnier part is that "gay blowjob" follows him for the rest of the series, like literally until the last episode with Vic finally seeing the picture.I do not know what writers had against the character but the entire trajectory of his plot line just did 180 after that. Actual humiliation ritual.
>>205045432those rare moments where everyone actually works together are nice. it adds so much humanity to them when they have details like Lem, Shane, Vic all being happy to cheer on Dutch when he does well. like how you know shit gets real when Aceveda asks Vic for help, and Vic will actually gladly do it
>>205042020You THINK? Or you know? Fucking fair weather fans
>>205045432this serial killer guy has been apart of every show and movie with crime and or police themes since the 90's.
>>205046616Michael Kelly will play the fuck out of any serial killer or morally dubious government agent
>>205043092Playing a zesty buck can take its toll.
>>205045013fuck off
>>205045432Literally hecking me!
>>205046659I imagine guys like him have a great life. you are rich, you get consistent work and are respected and liked by people. you can live a normal life as you aren't a big superstar that people would bother in public but still people recognize you sometimes and show you love. as an aspiring actor, that's what i want to achieve.
What was his fucking problem?
>I was who I was and I can't be that person anymoreThis scene is probably the hardest to watch (even harder than Aceveda's rape scene)
The Shield is a fluke that never happened before and will never happen after. I couldn't stand idiots who kept telling me about True Detective and it's not even close. That show was a bunch of horsesshit. The Shield was something else. Real people with real problems. It was enthralling to watch. Season 2 of True Detective was a lot more like The Shield in some respects but obviously watered down with piss.
>>205042020drags on too long with too much filler contentcharacters outside of main characters arent memorableits just not as good
>>205046909Based except for the true detective opinion
>>205046988>characters outside of main characters arent memorable
>>205042020I watched it because of /tv/ and I really enjoyed it, but I wouldn't say it's as good as The Sorpranos or The Wire. It does have one of the best final episodes on television, and I rewatch it all the time because of how kino it is.On an unreleased note; when I started watching it, my dad walked into the room and said, "Oh yeah, this character dies," and left. I spent the entire fucking series waiting for it to happen just for it to happen on the last fucking episode. Fuck you dad.
>>205043092>You like to run so much, why don't you try running to heaven
>>205045629Acevada was a huge piece of shit, so I approve of it hanging over his head the entire run after it happened.
>>205046870Dutch being a serial killer would have been so fucking dumb, I'm glad the idea was scrapped.
>>205046999going from the shield to that show with vague supernatural bullshit and people speaking like philosophy students at uni was gruelling, man.
>>205042020>I think it belongs there.it doesnt
>>205043937Those zoomlets better watch the Shield.
>>205044949Based
I just assumed it was basic cable trash. When I watched it I was surprised with what they were allowed to show on TV.
>>205042562They were going to have Dutch become a serial killer but dropped it which was the right move
>>205044188My brother in Christ, The Wire is boring. How can you be bored watching The ShieldObligatory DAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY post
>>205042020thats a question i have asked myself often.i think because its a very ugly show. almost all characters are corrupt and nonstop ugly things are happening. there is barely any moments of relief or redemption. just human abyss.basically its too gritty to have a broad fanbase wich is fantastic and stands for its quality. storytelling above all else.
>>205046872Seeing Vic try heroically in the 11th hour to turn everything around when he really lost it all at the end of the pilot was heartbreaking. I wanted him to make it out okay.
>>205048952Every character is ugly for one. The Wire lets you look at Dominic West. Also the plotlines are boring.
>>205047051P
>>205044188the entire season 2 of the wire with the same plot of dead girls in a container is solved in one episode of the shield
>>205045416>DAMAGE CONTROL
>the strike team sneaks up on a house whilst nu-metal plays>they nod at each other and kick in the door>the perp escapes through a backdoor/back window>vic runs after him>perp climbs up a chainlink fence>vic grabs him by the shoulder/leg and throws him on the groundliterally happens every episode and it's kino every fucking time
>>205050602Kek that's so trueAlso>Julian and Danny are checking out a disturbance at apartment complex while nu-metal music plays while the shacky camera follows them along the sidewalk at waist level.
>>205042020Because it’s shit.
>>205042230It has a “cult” fanbase though. As in, small. Because it’s shit.
>>205042230The Shield is why HBO no longer holds a monopoly on prestige TV and it's finale is widely proclaimed to be superior to the Wire's finale even by Wire stans in the press.That said, it's also largely protected from normies cancer ala Venture Brothers, meaning it's fanbase isn't full of idiots and the characters and plotlines are largely anti-pc so the women crowd hasn't corrupted it.
Should I watch The Wire or The Shield? Which season should I stop at?
>>205050816>>205050777Shut up nigger.>>205042230>not many people had fx or knew how to pirateFX was part almost any cable package and the early 00s was when file sharing took off you stupid nigger.
>>205042020Is this the show where the cop gets made to suck some gangster's cock and take pics
>>205050914boththere aren't enough good TV shows to be picky
>>205044616Women want to be with a man that can protect and provide for them. If a man can’t protect his own asshole then he can’t protect a woman
>>205042367It's got its moments but suffers from the fact that it's largely stand alone episodes with a few arcs, one really nasty character death that completely upends the series, and that it goes out of its way to basically write Chiklis's character as a Mart Stu beloved father figure type that resulted in Chiklis being stuck playing dad roles until The Shield came along and allowed him the chance to show the world he could play other roles.
>>205042020It’s because the shield only appeals to the same narrow brand of “people” as Zack Snyder films.
>>205050914>The Wire>Written by jew>We be pawns in chess and shit. I'm selling heroin because they won't give a nigger a job yo>The Shield>Written by goy>Let's just beat the shit out of these niggers until they stop being niggers
>>205046988it's definitely a bit too much (7 seasons) considering how repetitive the episodes are
>>205043367Here's mine:The SopranosThe ShieldThe WireTrue Detective (didn't watch season 4)Twin PeaksThe X-FilesUnsolved MysteriesBreaking BadBetter Call SaulMXC
>>205050998His bussy still virgin. His purdy lil’ mouth however…
>>205051082I'll give The Shield a shot then
is the Armenian mafia really as powerful as this show makes them seem?
>>205042230I was a teenager when it was airing. It looked fucking stupid, so did Nip Tuck.
>>205044005Should note that most of the really disturbing shit on the shield came not from Sutter but from Ryan's obsession with Rotten, a hire website that had a section for fucked up crimes and the murders/suicide of Chris Benoit and his family.Ryan is a down low sick fuck...And also, Ryan has said that The Shield was also creatively, a response to dealing with Don Johnson's egomania while writing for Nash Bridges. Ryan stated numerous times on the DVD commentary tracks, that Johnson would veto any storyline that made his character look flawed or wrong in any way. Hence why Shield was full of fucked up cops who did bad if not morally questionable things
>>205047051Yeah, he isn’t. He’s the gold standard of paper tiger. Propped up as new threat to hairless manlet, does nothing, and only exists to get “owned” by the little bald guy.
>>205051253You will not regret it. But you do have to give a pass for vic being a shortass
>>205048860The FCC does not regulate the content of cable. Only air broadcasts. Cable can literally show what ever it wants.
>>205051397>Character introduced as competent and intelligent completely destroyed because he didn't know who he was facing fantastic trope. shield one of the best examples of it
>>205048952Just because a lot of loud stuff happens very fast doesn’t mean any of it has any meaning.
>>205050438Which cheapens it.
>>205044005Why is Kurt sutter so obsessed with rape?When i watched sons of anarchy towards the end, it was downright ridiculous how much male on male rape there was. Even his own self insert was getting his ass reamed.
>>205046739>woman is raped: XD>man is raped: >:(
>>205044656Julian's conversion therapy storyline was forced on the writers by the actor, who was on a short term contract and wouldn't re-up his contract past season one unless Julian managed to pray the gay away.Ryan knew the storyline sucked but Michael Jace wouldn't budge on keeping Julian straight, so he was stuck with it outside of the occasion c-plot where they explicitly show that he was utterly miserable and impotent with his wife. He planned on having Ronnie come out as gay to try and counter balance Jace's crap but it got abandoned when season seven has to be rewriten from scratch due to behind the scenes chaos.
I was a teenager when the Shield was released and I thought it was a generic procedural cop show and the problem is that some episodes were really that way so it didn't help, I watched it when I was an adult and I fucking loved it...
>>205050602>it’s movie every fucking episodeBecause (you) don’t have enough time to stop and wonder why they don’t just put someone on the back door.
>>205051576Yes, and?
>>205051082You’re brown.
Hard to think of a TV moment where a character was so utterly BTFO.
>>205051663go fuck yourself i'm the whitest man on this board
>>205051292Nip/tuck is probably the stupidest show ever to air. The shield is part of the same “oh lookit us we so naughty we pushing boundaries of tv where there are none” phenomenon. The goal, first and foremost, was to be “provocative,” which is ultimately self-defeating.
>>205046870Basically Frankie Nunez/Malcolm syndrome. He's smart and charming as fuck but his parents and friends quickly realize that he's an egomaniac and asshole and if left to his own devices, would become a raging asshole that makes luke hell for others. So everyone bullies him to retard his power level, keeping him humble and tolerable since the last thing people need is two alpha male douchebags in the precinct buttibg heads.
>>205051535no it just confirms the wire is too damn slow. you don't need 12 episodes to figure out someone busted the airpipe to kill them after they raped a couple. (exactly the same as in the shield episode)
>>205051805No, you’re brown. Just like most of the shield’s fans.
>>205051850solving the murder wasn't really the point though
>>205051879what are you then, i dare you to name your nationality
>>205051850That didn’t take 12 episodes to figure out in the wire though. But you clearly haven’t watched it, so you wouldn’t know.
>>205051919Only brown people care about such things.
>>205051953i watched it twice but i kept falling asleep because it's another episode of nothing
>>205051983nationality has five vowels, brown people don't even know what it means
>>205051984Not enough loud noises eh
>>205052012Why cant the melanin enriched resist the siren song of the “no, you”
>>205051565He's a complete degenerate. He self inserts all his weird fetishes in all his shows
>>205050900> also largely protected from normies cancer ala Venture BrothersWhat do you mean? How has it avoided normies for so long?
>>205052013>that budget john goodman>that budget gene hackman>the homo hitman who goes through the same tragic buttboy lover gets killed circle about half a dozen times>we be the pawns in chess yo>the muslim brother hitman who can intimidate three hardened drugdealers at once by babbling about how cool his bullets are>same poor good boy not cut out for life in da hood cycle about 5 times>muh obsessed alcoholic detective who can't let the one case go>tards going to this day "hamsterdam was such a great idea" >"me my mommy and daddy"-tier 32 year old dude playing 17 year old bodiepeople who praise the wire are all losers. it was a pretty high quality criminal procedure type show but if you really think it was top tier you're out of your mind
>>205050438It's about polak doc union and how they had lie in bed with mafia to keep thier shit afloat, you retard. Dead slav hoe storage is just a catalyst of it all crumbling down. You can literally conjecture whose where's are these the moment Greek appears for the first time.
>>205042230fx was basic cable. the entire concept for the network at the time was "free HBO". their shield was the first major success in this pivot.
>>205052099You could’ve just said yes.
>>205052152yes i could have
>>205052199Great self-own there bro, that really got him.
>>205042020Thats a good question, Im not sure. Maybe because it was marketed as raw and grimey instead of prestigious? As it stands it could easily have aired on HBO and gotten the acclaim it deserves. Anyone I know who watches it after Wire/Sopranos/BrBa says its just as good and can run with those shows. It couldn't be made today though, its way too brutal and honest.
>>205052342It aired concurrently with the wire. They were both responses to law and order. The problem is David Simon had already made a network television version of the shield, homicide. So the shield was just “homicide: loud and fast.”
>>205045629I liked Acevada's redemption arc and got pissed when the picture came back during the last season. Like the other anon said though, he was a shitty person playing a shitty political game and got humbled, had he been smarter, less ambitious or more patient he would never have been in that situation, but he decided to go after Vic and (like everyone else who tries to) payed a horrible price. All things considered he got off pretty easy in the end.
>>205042020I always wanted to watch this show. IS it shit or is it worth checking out?
THIS GUY... THIS GUY IS JUST PISSING... JUST PISSING ALL OVER US... AND WE JUST SMILE AND LICK IT UP?
>>205052529> he got off easy in the end He was raped.
>>205042020People aren't ready to accept Kurt Sutter is a genius. The Shield and Sons of Anarchy are two of the greatest shows ever made.
Reminder: the show is based off the failed rampart police district. The corrupt cops Vick Mackey and crew were based on were all black. So remember, every time you see the little bald guy, that’s a nigger with a thin coat of high gloss white paint.
>I brought you some food
>>205042020The production quality wasn't anywhere near the HBO level.Cheap budget, cheap sets, you could tell a lot of the show was made on a shoestring budget.Basically, The Shield's presentation is what brings it down.
>>205053219No one is ever going to accept him as a genius because all he ever writes are very turbulent puddles. His fans would be just as happy with “jingling keychains: the show.”
>>205053286i understand why they went for shakey cam in the early 2000s but it really hasn't aged well
>>205042020>That episode where he kneels on the black guy's neck.Didn't age well.
>>205053293filtered
>>205053219Sons of Anarchy was a massive step down in quality from The Shield and becomes self-parody by the end>You see, we've gotta get on the same page as brown so we can take out black. Or else yellow is going to come in... Also the main character did a really shitty American impression if you ask me, always threw me off. His accent was just a little wrong.
>>205053578I accept your concession.
Justified is also good
>>205053641I think that’s just his voice. It’s the same in everything he’s been in
>>205053378I think it ads to the show feeling like it's a cop show more than anything. I know body cams weren't widely spread anywhere in the timeline of the show, but it really feels like someone is just filming an episode of Cops. All those obstructed shots, zooms, and quick panning.It's especially apparent when someone is being arrested when the preferred choice is over-the-shoulder pov, like it's a TV crew with the cops.
Is he the most universally beloved character on /tv/?
>>205053641charlie hunnam even did shit brit accents whilst he's a brit. you never seen green street hooligans? it's like a parody of the english
>>205054015You know the cops cameramen were fighting to make everything seem more dramatic than it was, right? So in this fake drama, you’re praising attempts to add more fake drama. This is ultimately what puts people off the show. It’s trying way too hard and it’s pretty obvious it’s trying so hard to cover the fact it has no depth.
>>205053286The final 7th season had noticable higher quality production, it's a shame it wasn't like that from the beginning
>>205054394this is /tv/ man
>>205054394
>>205045432>Ellen Carmichael, Steve Billings' attorney>The bitch-dyke?Dutch boy does it again!
>>205055261I hadn't watched this film in forever. I did so a week ago. I was astonished by how much I related to Travis. Last time I watched it in full was when I was too young to get it. As a man in the middle of his 20's, the things Travis feels and experiences unsettled me in how much they are alike to my experiences. Even down to how he mishandles social situations and feels malaise. I tried university, went for an art degree because my young self thought that the arts were a good way to differientate myself from my family and friends. Big mistake. I ended up with wasted time and money. Anyway, I might give The Shield a chance. After Sons of Anarchy ended, I've never watched a show from beginning to end.
>>205055615the shield is way better than sons of anarchy
>>205055615>tldr he's literally me
>>205051717Claudette as a character would be absolutely hated on /tv/ today but she is so well written. She basically doesn't change at all throughout the show, remaining self-righteous and sitting on the moral high ground for the entire duration of the show, but she is still incredible to watch. The ending she gets is just as crushing and depressing as Vic.
>>205054641I'm talking about handheld movement and blocking choices where they would specifically film like it's a TV crew with the characters, not fucking how fake Cops was. Take your dick out of the microwave or do I have to explain that Shield is a written drama for FOX?
>>205056072Pretty damn close. I had the same interaction he had with the movie theater cashier girl. I really told myself to try to talk to a woman like that but it went horribly. She even called out to someone just like what happened to Travis. I work in a metal factory and there's these two old gentlemen and one of 'em talks exactly like that cabbie in the movie. He says stuff about how your work becomes your life and how life is good when you focus on simple pleasures like football, food and other stuff.
>>205042020The show has a low-class, thuggish air to it that makes typical prestige television snobs turn their nose up at it. The pilot has the Strike Team shoot a guy while Kid Rock plays in the background. It's hard to wax poetic in The Atlantic about a show like The Shield.
>>205057068This is the only post that gets it. It was too real and authentic and had no pretentious posturing about it which made the big boys kneecap it at awards shows. Masses only watch shows that are socially beneficial to follow or did before streaming.
>>205057120FX was all trash content and reruns back then. It's no wonder people didn't give The Shield a chance.
>>205057235>didn't give The Shield a chance.It ran for 90 fucking episodes unimpeached. What are you talking about. Just because today's zoomers don't know what this is, doesn't mean no one watched it.
>>205057730I'm saying most people didn't even know it was good because it was lost in a sea of cable TV garbage that was rightfully ignored
>>205051596>season seven has to be rewriten from scratch due to behind the scenes chaos.QRD?
>>205042562With the way things ramped up in the last two seasons, a lot of the side characters were necessarily pushed into the background, but they still felt like real people living and working in that world. Forcing a big conclusive arc on Dutch or Tina coveniently timed right at the end would have felt phony.
>>205056563… yes, I completely understood that you’re talking about how they tried to imitate how cops cameramen generated fake drama in a fake drama. Not sure how you didn’t understand that, outside of simple iq disparity.
>>205057120Yes kid rock always blasts when police are in firefights that’s realism.
>>205059959Then what the fuck is your criticism then? You are right there saying that the fact that they are emulating "fake Cop show" shooting style somehow devalues its drama because of said style. Are you mental?You think everyone who is watching immediately thinks that it's so fake connecting it to Cops staging shit and in turn not caring about Vic and the Strike Team? Dick out of microwave. You don't get to talk about anyone's IQ.
>>205052642I have never hated a character more than John Kavanaugh, which is a testament to how great The Shield really is. For all his flaws and how awful a person Vic is, the second the show gives me a character that is a legitimate threat to him and has all the weight of the establishment behind him, I fucking HATED it.
>>205042020I watched a few episodes and whenever the bald guy wasn't on screen it wasn't good, the sheboon was awful, not watching, simple as
>The killer in me is the killer in (You)
>>205042020I keep forgetting to watch this show. Everytime there is a thread, people talk it up, and by the time I've finished my currents watches, I just get into other things.
I can't help but love Shane to death, in spite of all his fuck ups
>>205047051Unironically great casting with Kavanaugh. He had a strange, uncomfortable presence that fit perfectly.
>>205053256NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>205063107I watched it on the same recommendation earlier this year, it's worth it. I also watched Farscape based off the threads on here and that was great too.
>>205063645lol thanks for reminding me to watch farscape as well. I need to finish some shows so I can start some new ones.
>>205060449Let’s look back at the post shall we?>>205054641>cops cameramen were fighting to make everything seem more dramaticDocumentarians trying to manufacturer fake drama>the shield does this tooFictional show production using fake drama techniques to distract from how shallow and nonsensical the writing always was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtzky5KNFN8Based dutch putting chonkers in their place.
>>205064274Cops were not manufacturing fake drama by using handhelds and running from preps. They were manufacturing it by telling niggers to act crazy on camera, what the fuck is the correlation here when operator isn't a character in Shield? Did you seriously interpret me saying that use over-the-shoulder filming as me pretending the camera is a character?In no way does the Shields camera style highlight or distract from the writing, it's not an active participant but a style, it's not too dissimilar to Succession. They have as many conventional shots as shaky handheld.Seriously, your dick is boiling in that microwave. Now, it's a fucking stratagem to "distract" with a handheld of all things. It's not that dynamic to begin with, what are you even pretending is jingling here. At this point, you're just trying to have the last word by saying nonsense.
>>205064972Anon, the cops film crews were never in danger.
>>205065196Nooooo!? No way. Truly? I never thought about this when I literally said they were asking niggers to act crazy to film it.Next thing you're going to tell me Shaun didn't blow up Lem in the The Shield.
>multiple shots throughout the seasons where the cameraman can be seen in multiple shots>they just leave it in anywaylmao sovl
>>205065416I only remember one shot like that, it was when Shane was getting up while fighting the black Strike Team member
>>205065543seasons 1 and 2 had heaps IIRC
>>205042230The Wire didn't get it's GOAT tier status until it was done airing.
There's been an officer involved shooting.
>>205056648You'll find that once you are shaken out of normie life you will never truly get back in. You just learn to fake it.
So was the whole reason Aceveida was trying to get rid of Vic was because he allowed Vic to torture the pedo in the first episode, and he didnt want Vic being able hold it over his head?
I binged this and enjoyed it, but it's pretty clear why it isn't talked about as much as shit like the wire and breaking bad and the sopranos. I think it's kind of like a B tier show like Dexter or something. Maybe zoomers will start watching it and making tiktok edits in a year's time or something.
>>205067375no Aceveda was just a scummy ladder climbing politician looking to make a name for himself
>>205042020I started rewatching it recently too. I imagine some things like the gay cop who gets blackmailed, bullied, goes to gay conversion therapy to cure himself... not going to be taken as well as Omar being a badass gay faggot.Things like that and the show using Kid Rock music as the soundtrack don't age it in a good way.
>>205067524other than the Sopranos it's the only show I can think of where there is no drop off as the series progresses
>>205068774Call it a period piece then, faglord.
>>205056471no she wouldnt be hated cuz shes a well written well performed black woman who's a human and not HECKIN WHOLESOME STRONK WOMYN OF COLOR
>>205069006It didn't stop me from watching, I'm just trying to answer his question.The way the Autistic child storyline is handled would probably trigger plenty of people too.It was pretty realistic, but they'd refuse to admit that.
>>205042020Because its fucking obnoxious. They never actually do cop shit. Ever. Its JUST a gang. Thats it. Thats all it is. Even the actual gangs in The Wire are easier to empathize with. And less psychopathic. And less villainous.Its like trying to watch Officer Tenpenny exist with impunity.
>>205069647they bust guys all the time anon, it's basically the police squad that every cop in the wire said they should have every episode(no petty busts, run it up the chain for the big fish)
>Previously on The Shield>who took my dingdongs?>I'm not gay!>Suck it!
>>205069647Think of it less as a cop show and more as a dramatization of the CRASH unit, one of the most corrupt police units in police history.
>>205070433Perfect. And it was always unnecessary too. Just... deploy the police and stop ignoring shit in the ghettos. No extra powers needed.>>205069739>no petty bustsLol no. Arresting and jailing every gang member and lowlife criminal you can as fast as you can engages in a war of attrition that, if properly done. Gangs simply can't survive. And ideally, you provoke as many shootouts as possible. Take fewer prisoners, leave more bodies.
>>205070961>Just... deploy the police and stop ignoring shit in the ghettos.Blame politicians. In fact, it's a plot point in Shield that the governor is purposely not deploying enough police units to the neighborhood in order to drive real estate prices down. Then later on, the unit is hamstrung because the politicians think it's bad optics to have a white unit swooping in and saving the black and latino ghettos. The Shield is a pretty good depiction of what the good (white) people on the ground have to put up with when they try to 'stop ignoring shit in the ghettos.'
>>205065340You’re basically a wwe-tard when someone says wrestling isn’t real. Your IQ is two digits
>>205069340vic's child getting the spergs from a (((vaccine))) was kino if anything it would resonate with people now more than ever now that more people know the truth>>205069647that is exactly how cops are, the show just ramped it up to extreme levels
>>205043367>(up until s2)fucking filtered
One of these days Alice! Bang! Zoom! You're going to the moon!!!
>>205069974
>>205042316This
>>205051355>but from Ryan's obsession with Rottenrotten.com? i haven't thought about that site in decades
Because it’s too based
>>205082404>rotten.com>mfw this week's pic is pornOh yeah, take that pilon
>>205065416homage to trailer park boys
>>205051254SPOOK STREET
>>205051047I remember him as the sloppy weirdo drunk on Long Island or Staten Island? One of the island places in NY.
>>205056471Oh I hated her fucking guts but that is why she was a much needed and good character. The ornery black woman angle is tiresome but she made it work. Much like Kavanuagh being based and fucking with Vic and his crew until he had a moment of guilt. Sometimes, a character you hate makes it more fun. Peggy Hill is another example.
>>205053529It aged like a 30 year old single malt scotch, pussy.
>>205054394That is not Vince Masuka.
>>205046988after watching the first episode my brother and I were pumped as hell, and we plowed through the first two seasons, but sometime in the third season we were really burnt out and forcing ourselves to keep watching.I don't think anything changed around that time because I don't remember many details of the show at all. I just knew I didn't care anymore.
>>205063185Lem deserved to die and ronnie\vic are shit for turning on shane.
S P O O K S T R E E TPOOKSTREET
>>205045432>HEY DELETE MY LAPTOP WITH A BUNCH OF PIZZA ON IT K THX>uh okay>never brought up againHow did Dutchboy do it?
>>205042020Redditors can't cling onto it because they say nigger a lot in the show. Also doesn't have any le epik meme moments like Slopranos or Breaking Bad does so they can't run anything into the ground.
>>205042020It is mentioned here. When dumbshits like you invade Wire threads to insist The Shield is better. As if.
>>205044545>it's me, I'm kesakhian>he made you...suck??>MONEY TRAIN>we killed...a copp
>>205087204It is. The character you posted is proof of that. What a fucking idiotic caricature.>le gay gangster
>>205087204Agreed, people are smoking some heavy doobies if they think it's better than the likes of The Wire and The Sopranos, but The Shield is most certainly in my top 5 shows. In my opinion where it loses some points is the fact that it is somewhat stretched as a serialised cop show, rather than the tighter, more concentrated primetime drama structure of the aforementioned shows.
NYPD Blue was a better show than The Shield.
>>205087259All HBO shows sans TD are overrated garbage only pushed through osmosis. The Shield is a better piece of work on all basis. Writing, acting, directing, music. Everything.
>>205087337>Kid RockOpinion discarded. You're trash. A big ollll' piece o' garbage.
>>205051821>the same “oh lookit us we so naughty we pushing boundaries of tv where there are none” phenomenon. The goal, first and foremost, was to be “provocative,” which is ultimately self-defeating.except this is when IASIP was at its best
>>205053378>it really hasn't aged wellthe movie End of Watch fucking copied it
>>205079732new cops on the block
>>205087411>i disregard this show because it used music that was topical at the timeYou're a bugman with no soul.
>>205087318weird how that was buried by time
>>205087337>All HBO shows sans TDmore like since TD
>>205087204what are you talking about? the entire strike team in the shield act like omarthe reason he is in the wire is because the cops don't run around like vigilantes and he provides a more realistic angle for action
>>205087953meant for >>205087229
>>205087953>realistic>magic negro walks around in public without getting clipped>survives as long as he did>survives a 5 story jumpSome of you plebbitors really don't know what the hood really is like. Thats not even mentioning the Shakespearean writing given to the hood characters.Wire is on the same totem pole as the shield when it comes to realism.
>>205090176>omar is too cartoonish>other characters are too shakespeareanSo it's simultaneously too shallow and too deep for the setting.You're the one repeating reddit talking points here m8.
