I don't understand who this show is for.>every woman is strong and powerful and can hold their own against men in physical confrontation>90% of the cast is a minority>you're suppose to be rooting for the people who want to subvert control of the universe>the emperor is portrayed as a spineless cuck faggot>men are easily manipulated and emotionally toyed with by women>Ragnar Lothbrok is pretty much typecast as unhinged nowImagine this show the other way around.>in this universe mostly dominated by women a magical order, exclusively consisting of men, mostly white, wants to subvert genetic lines to create more controllable rulers and shadowpuppet the galaxyWould anyone root for the latter?
They're literally a cope version of the golden path. Anyone who read the books knows they are an order of retards bent on controlling destiny for themselves.
bruh have sex
>>206069688Anon it's just slop trying to capitalize on the surprisingly good nuDune movies. Just let its viewers dwindle like ROP and it'll fuck off eventually.
>>206069688i like dunc 1 & 2 but i have no drive to watch this
>>206069930wtf even is this?
>>206069948You are not missing anything. I have a friend who says he actually fell asleep halfway through episode two and only woke up because his TV started playing some war movie after it was over.
>>206070013kino
>>206070041Damn, There has been so many things I planned on watching and then lost all interest. like joker 2.
>>206070201Yeah I'm in the same position. I was really hoping this show would be a fun expansion to the movies and perhaps introduce an interesting side story, some good characters or some fun lore. But nah, it's just [The Message] over and over again.You can tell the showrunners hated how Paul Atreides was portrayed in the movies.
This is the writer and showrunner. Hope it helps OP.
>>206070475Fucking really? God damn, way to confirm all my worst fears.
>>206069688>every woman is strong and powerful and can hold their own against men in physical confrontation>you're suppose to be rooting for the people who want to subvert control of the universe>the emperor is portrayed as a spineless cuck faggot>men are easily manipulated and emotionally toyed with by womenAll of these are present in the books and straight out of Frank's LSD riddled leftoid mind
>>206070538>t. hasn't read them
>>206070475I no longer want to watch this show
>>206069688>>in this universe mostly dominated by women a magical order, exclusively consisting of men, mostly white, wants to subvert genetic lines to create more controllable rulers and shadowpuppet the galaxyI'd watch that. It might not be good or particularly well-written but at least it would be something original in today's world.That being said no one like >>206070475 would ever make a show about an order of men trying to fix a problem.
>>206070574I've read all the Frank books and you're dellusional if you think his leftism didn't seep into the books
>>206070538It's one of those cases where we aren't supposed to root for the protagonist (Paul) but the reader ends up doing iy anyway because he's based. I only like the first book really, but the rest of the Frank written books have some interesting ideas in them.
>>206070817This. A lot of women I know who saw the Dune movies say the same thing. It's kinda like the Warhammer 4ok conundrum. The human's aren't particularly nice, but they're better than the alternative so you might as well root for them.You might not like Paul, but his mother isn't better and neither is his GF so you might as well root for him.
>>206070201If you're as jaded and dead inside as I am, consider The Penguin. It's better than it looks.
>>20607047510/10 for Hutt vore fetishists
>>206070538Frank Herbert isn't a Leftist, he was actually a me.ber of the Republican party and even helped them out by writing speeches for them and in his books showed how governments can be tyrannical.
>>206070723Frank Herbert was homophobic and transphobic and he was not a Leftist.
>>206070908I never made the connection before but Dune must actually have inspired Warhammer quite a bit.
>>206071747Most of the modern sci fi genre takes stuff from Dune
>>206071747Yeah, a lot of the empirical aspects of Warhammer are pretty much straight from doom.
>>206070723I didn't notice
>>206069688It's a modern show with modern messaging. How the movies managed to get made is anyone's guess.
>>206069688>5 mins into the show>"yeah, i fucked around in my free time and discovered the voice">random club scene straight out of some cw showAbsolutely dreadful, instead of showing origins of great houses and shit, we get whatever this is
>>206069930The power of propaganda like this is lost immediately when I can just picture Tariq Nasheed jerking off in his bedroom about being sodomized by fat slave traders in the 1800s.
>First 5 minutes >Atreides are bad guys who lie>All rulers of the great families are greedy power hungry bad guys who need guidance from women>Manipulate rulers to breed new rulers who they can control for reasons>Majority of bene gesserit are white in what is a diverse cast otherwise>First 20 minutes is literally women talkingI don't think this is for us lads.
>>206074103it's all so tiresome
>>206073226I fucking died inside when the bitch casually brings up having learned the voice in her spare time and she just invented that shit on her own. Writing is dead.
>>206073226>>206074707Funniest part is that's actually in the book too. Granted it's a book written by Brian Herbert, Frank's son as a cashgrab but still.
I fell off the fucking second Mother Sacred revealed her plan to make "more controllable rulers" through a genetic archive. I remember thinking to myself, "oh so this is the plot setting up the villains", but we're actually suppose to root for these people?Are you insane? They want to undermine all freedom in the galaxy because they're right and everyone else is wrong? This is like hyper-wrongthink-Hitler and they're suppose to be the good guys? Fuck me.
How many Dune books has Brian released so far?50?
>>206074825Bad writing being in the book does not make it less bad.
>>206074857I mean, the Dune fans hate it, so, yeah, both the book and the show are bad. Anything not written by Frank is non canon if you ask me, crazy that they decided to adapt this of all things.
>>206074834You see, they want a WOMAN ruler so it's okay.
>>206074881He only wrote the two books, right? I don't actually know a lot about the Dune books, I just enjoyed the movies and did not enjoy the TV show.
>>206074934He wrote like 20 books. Well co-autored with another author Kevin J. Anderson, who is a producer on the show iirc. It's basically official fanfic made as a cashgrab, just the son milking his dad's intellectual property for money. The latest one came out just a couple of years ago.
>>206074934Oh if you mean Frank, he wrote 6 books originally.
>>206069930>free chicken
>>206075002Oh yeah, I meant Frank, should have specified that. I'll look into those 6 then. Is there a "first" one I should read first or just in release order?I really think I could enjoy the Dune universe and I love to read.
>>206069930>Americans
>>206069688Hollywood suits have never stopped looking for a new GoT. Wheel of Time failed, Foundation failed, the Witcher failed. Now it's Brianslop time.
>>206075057What of Rings of Power? Surely that'll be the next PHENOMENON!
>>206075081Yeah, that too, of course.
>>206075037Yeah, release order. Read Dune, then Messiah, then Children of Dune. That's the original trilogy. Then the last 3 books if you want more, but I don't like them personally. They skip like 3000 years after the original trilogy. And then if you like those you can read the Brian books, but wouldn't recommend.
>>206075117Alright, neat, thank you Anon!
Let's be real, if this series had a straight white blond blue-eyed male as protagonist no one ITT would be complaining about writing issues or whatever. You're all just mad that it is portraying something you don't like.
>>206075157it would be more pleasant to look at but still shit. cw shows have hot casts but they're still garbage
They adapted Brian Herbert
>>206075037Rule of thumb: if it says "Brian" on the cover, avoid like the plague.
>>206070013The average American media in 2024
>>206075206Couldn't have said it better myself.
>>206075206I think Brian comes across as funny likable guy in interviews, I have nothing against him as a person, but the man has no idea what Dune needs and should never have written a page in his life.
>>206075379
>>206075398Interesting books are written by interesting people. When you read Brian's prefaces to the latest edition of Frank's original books, it becomes very clear that he's not an interesting person.
>>206070475>alison schlopker
>>206075459Does he even write them? I thought he teamed up with some shit tier sci fi writer to shit out all those books
>>206069688>>Ragnar Lothbrok is pretty much typecast as unhinged nowAnd I love him for it. He's my hero.
>>206069688>>in this universe mostly dominated by women a magical order, exclusively consisting of men, mostly white, wants to subvert genetic lines to create more controllable rulers and shadowpuppet the galaxy>yfw that's actually what happens by the time of Heretics and Chapterhouse
>>206075379is this the book version of shovelware?
So far the only quibble I have with the show is them fucking up the timeline. 116 years after the Butlerian Jihad should have the Corrinos on Kaitan because Salusa Secundus was rendered a rad-tox wasteland a century prior.
>>206069688>in this universe mostly dominated by women a magical order, exclusively consisting of men, mostly white, wants to subvert genetic lines to create more controllable rulers and shadowpuppet the galaxyIt's called World's End Harem
>>206069688Wait, we're supposed to root for the bene-gesserit? I thought they are the villains and Ragnar, the princess and the rapist from Broadchurch are the heroes
>>206076011I'm pretty sure the showrunner wants you to root for the women, yes.
>>206071747Warhammer has almost no original ideas, its just pulp scifi anyway.
>>206075698/a/ is the most retarded board on this site by far.
>>206069688>every woman is strong and powerful and can hold their own against men in physical confrontation>90% of the cast is a minorityI dropped it after 30 minutes because of that. I want sci-fi to be set in a different world, not 2024 Hollywood.
>>206069930unironically got 'em
I've seen gay women sisterhood order of witches thing in Wheel of TimeI've seen Ragnar finding faith in SolI've seen boring politics with houses and kings/emperorsNothing to see in this shit. Let's move on.
>>206069930>my penis is bigger than yours!"That's a misunderstanding. The uncivilized african evolved in a dry, hot climate. Having a penis flop about when not engorged aided in heat dispersal. Same reason for your big ugly lips and your nappy hair. If we were to compare actual erect size, you'd see we were both within a standard deviation of one another."
>>206070013A chud receiving some humiliation from superior Human.
They don't do a good job of making you believe the Bene Gesserit are particularly skilled, all the men are retards so controlling them wouldn't take a day of training.
>>206069946>surprisingly good nuDune moviesThe what?
>>206069688>I don't understand who this show is for.Women
>>206077832and yet women won't watch sci-fis.
>>206069688>based on anti-cannon cashgab books by hack son who seems to despise his father's legacy.>takes a universe where women are already (or will be) the single most powerful faction pulling the strings and somehow manage to make them even more overpowered.>shit pacing, shit casting, shit production values.Yeah I checked in out of morbid curiosity then checked out after 20 mins. Utter garbage. Lol at how they managed to make the Emperor's court look like a small community council meeting though.
>>206076840This. The Emperor is suppose to be one of the smartest most skilled people in existence and he folds like a fag the moment he meets any resistance.
>>206078058The few scenes I remember from that planet I was kinda baffled the emperor lived so... small. They showed grand views of his palace from above, sure, but the entire palace might as well consist of 2 small rooms and a hallway for all I know. In the first episode there's this wedding, and it's done in the emperor's throne room and I'm sitting there wondering why? You don't have a banquet hall or some ritual place to do this? You had to re-use the tiny-ass room the emperor sits in on the worlds tiniest cuck-chair?For a universe like Dune, where things are suppose to FEEL grand in scale, everything sure feels fucking tiny in the show.
