I marathoned all of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure this summer. I don't know how common this opinion is, but I kind of liked the magic breathing more than the Stands, it felt like it had more logic to it, and that the Stands were just an elaborate excuse for wacky puzzle boss fights.>Overall: Part 2 > Part 6 > Part 3 > Part 1 > Part 5 > Part 4>JoJo: Joseph > Jotaro > Jolyne > Jonathan > Giorno > Josuke>Group: Giorno's Group > Jotaro's Group > Jolyne's Group > Joseph's Group > Josuke's Group > Jonathan's Group>Main Villain: Father Pucchi > Pillar Men > Dio 1 > Kira > Dio 2 > Diavolo
>>214125687Nobody ever talks about the manga with Jojo, is it considerably worse than the anime or something? Should Phantom Blood be skipped? Most people seem to do that, but I’m quite neurotic about always reading everything.
>>214125914I started the Kira arc because it was the one that appealed to me even though dio is cool but Kira appraled to me more. Just like dragon ball is slower than z I would only recommend the beginning if you really want to be a completionist but it isn't vital. Tooru is my favorite for his idealogy of a rock above others and dreams and memories speech.
>>214125687>Part 4 lastWhat a faggot
>>214125687I can definitely see why you'd prefer the Hamon seasons, the anime adaptation of part 2 was particularly good. But I don't know how long the series would have been able to sustain itself on that, Stands breathed new life into it and gave Jojo a unique identity beyond just being a goofy but otherwise fairly typical shonen. >>214125914Nah the manga is really good, the anime is just more accessible and memeable. Part 4 is even better in the manga imo, it really lended itself to the cozy, slice of life vibe that I think the anime missed the mark on a little. Some of Part 3 is better as manga too because of pacing. Parts 2 and 5 are better in anime I think, the rest are about on par with eachother. Part 7 I have a feeling the manga will be better but we'll see. Also, don't skip anything, Araki was still finding his footing with Phantom Blood, but it's fun, short, and has important context for the rest of the series.
>>214125914>Nobody ever talks about the manga with Jojo
I still don't understand how Giorno's stand works.
Jojo pose!
>>214125687JJBA is my favorite manga/anime of all time. Part 5 is the best anime adaptation and probably the ONLY part to be objectively better than its manga counterpart, although the Part 2 anime comes close too. Yes, you are wrong for thinking that Hamon is a better power system than Stands. Stands allow for a lot more flexibility in writing fights and Araki (the mangaka) naturally recognized that by Battle Tendency he had taken Hamon to its logical conclusion.I am very excited for Steel Ball Run (Part 7) as it is my favorite manga of all time and I believe an apex example of the artistic medium of Japanese comic books as a whole, right up there with Berserk and Vagabond.If you want my opinion on what I think are the best based on the manga and anime, here they are:>Best JoJo>Johnny > Jolyne > Josuke > Joseph> Jōtarō > Gappy (Josuke8) Giorno > Jonathan>Best Main Villain>Valentine > Kira > Pucci > Dio Brando > Diavolo > DIO > Kars > Tōru>Best BroJo>Gyro > Bucciarati/Mista > Rohan/Koichi/Okuyasu > Yasuho/Rai/Joshū > Polnareff > Speedwagon + Zeppeli > Caesar >Best Group>Bucciarati's Gang > Johnny & Gyro (& sometimes some Friends) > Josuke's Frens > Jolyne's Jailbird Group > The Stardust Crusaders > Gappy & The Higashikata Family & Friends > Jonathan & SpeedWeed & Co. > Joseph (he solo-carries his Part)>Best Part 7 > 4 > 5 = 6 > 2 > 8 > 3 > 1I haven't ranked Part 9 because it is ongoing. I STRONGLY recommend that you read the manga, OP.
>>214126537Can you read the manga starting at part 7, having only watched the anime up until then?
>>214126591yeah you'll be fine. the anime is nearly a page for page adaptation of the manga.
>>214126022>Tōru is my favorite He's easily the worst main antagonist, although maaaaaybe Kars is worse, but I couldn't stand the guy and was really hoping Jobin would be the big bad of JoJolion since he was way more fleshed out. I dunno man, JJL was really good for the first two-thirds and then Araki just decided he wanted to finish it as fast as possible while outright ignoring multiple plotlines and clues he spent the entire Part setting up. "Araki forgot" is a common trope that I understand for relatively small things when the bigger narrative/Part theme is to be preserved, but that's really disappointing to do with so many things when the entire Part is a MYSTERY ADVENTURE.I still like Part 8 and it's still good (no such thing as a "bad" JoJo part), but I would be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed by the ending.
>>214125687Go tell /a/ you faggot
>>2141268728 is fucking garbage man. Its sad since 7 was such a masterpiece.
>>214125914>Nobody ever talks about the manga with JojoWhat an insane thing to say. Real gen alpha shit.
>>214126591NO, don't skip parts. You will miss a lot of Easter eggs, winks and nods to the previous Parts as well as narrative surprises if you start straight up with the universe reset/continuity reboot in Part 7.That being said, most of the winks and nudges are just that and not necessarily important to the overall story. I still wouldn't do it personally. If you're OP and have watched all six parts of the anime, then yes obviously read SBR before the anime comes out.>>214126436Araki is notorious for changing his mind in the beginning of a Part for what he wants that Part to be and this is especially true of Stands and even certain characters (Anasui being originally female in a single panel of the manga that s/he was first introduced). Gold Experience's main ability is to imbue inanimate objects with life energy that he can then partially control. If done on already living objects (such as plants and people), this will accelerate plant growth and increase perception of sensory time (but not reaction time), which still follows the theme of "life energy imbuement" even if it's only used in the Bucciarati fight. Gold Experience allows Giorno to heal wounds from himself and others by grafting inanimate objects onto the wound and turning them into living tissue (although the process is painful). Gold Experience Requiem has all of the "life energy imbuement" power enhanced as well as gaining the ability to return all causal elements done against it or its user (Giorno) and return them to a state of "zero", which basically means it has the ability to remove effect but keep cause in an endless loop that never resolves unless it wills it to be.
is jojo's bizarre adventure actually gay or 'ironically' gay?
>>214126899I doubt Araki will ever beat his magnum opus that is Steel Ball Run, but I have been enjoying The JoJolands a lot so far and Jodio is an interesting protagonist in that he might be our first genuine psycho JoJo, even more than his two predecessors. Then again, I said the same thing while JJL was going on and was very disappointed by the ending.
>>214127325I didn't want to watch/read it at first because it looked overtly homosexual. Then I gave it a chance and was surprised at how good it was with the homo shit being artistic flair and actually based more on Italian Renaissance art and haute couture fashion like Gucci and Versace, of which Araki (the author/illustrator) heavily bases his poses on. It's a unique melding between old and new art and the entire work is very much a celebration of the indomitability of the human spirit. There's only a handful of characters that are outright gay and it's simultaneously in the least gay/most masculine Part (Vento Aureo). It is a work of art in every sense of the word and not gay at all even if the window dressing looks overtly faggoty.
>>214125687>>>/a/281857503>>>/a/281857565see this? >>214126537that's why, people that like part 5 overlook part 7 major faults
>>214125687>Part 6>better than anything>better than the ANIME version
>>214127488Part 7 has minor faults in pacing and significant faults in sidelining supporting characters. Other than that it's a masterpiece.
>>214127521people were trashing on part 6 so muchI was surprised how much I liked it, I wish DP made more original ost, first batches overused tracks from previous parts
>>214126872Overall I can understand someone reading chapter to chapter but wonder of you's perplexed at being so close to danger sold it for me The rock humans are just sociopaths by a different name and origin.
watched first 5 episodes yesterdayman it sucked. i have no interest in this bollywood shite
>>214127551part 7 has one major flawJohnny Joestar is the most boring mc JoJo ever had, this guy is worse than random guy from crowd appearing on one page to die and never return
>>214127325There is a teen called fey and another called camp. Both could be applied here. He might be like the guy that wrote sun and steel and just conflicted.
>>214127591stop watching thenif someone say to you that > oh anon, it will be better after x episodesdon't listen to themdon't like something - fuck it, don't waste your time
>>214127613yeah deleted the torrent and files this morning and reading germinal instead
>>214125687Go back to /a/
>>214127325Yes.
>>214127603>Johnny Joestar is the most boring mc JoJo ever had>Jonathan exists>Gappy exists>Giorno exists>Jōtarō existsI have literally never seen a worse take on JoJo and that's saying something. Johnny's character arc is one of the best in all of manga. He goes from being an arrogant kid with daddy issues to a miserable, whiny pathetic cripple to someone willing to give up his dream to walk again in order to save his best friend and mentor. It's a testament to how well written he is that I went from despising him as a whiny, crying little shit to him being my favorite character in JoJo and probably all of manga.The four JoJo's I listed are objectively more boring protags than Johnny (hell, Giorno isn't even the real protagonist in his part, that's Bruno). I literally have no idea what you're smoking with how awful of a take you have. Apply yourself, anon.
>>214127521never understood the hate for part 6, I liked it since reading the manga. I guess it does drag a little in the middle but so do 3 and 5. the last act of 6 is one of my favourite stretches in the whole series.
>>214127839Part 5 and 6 are the reverse of each other. Golden Wind starts great, peaks in the middle and peters out at the end in a planned anticlimax. Stone Ocean starts great, gets really slow until they leave the prison and then it arguably has the best ending of any Part in the series with the last half being fantastic. I love both Parts but Part 5 is a bit better imo, and is my third favorite Part as a result after 7 and 4.
>>214126030part 4 is mostly filler and boring until kira comes onto the screen.
>>214125687I respect your opinon anon.good job.
Yes
>>214127987it's not "filler", it's just slice of life. which is exactly why I like it. each to their own though, it's a different vibe to the other parts. but if you want to talk about real filler, Part 3 is way worse for that. soo many pointless villain of the week fights without any of the comfy small town worldbuilding that 4 has
Was Pucchi supposed to be black? I couldn't quite tell. He doesn't look anything like any other black character in the series.
>>214125687GOAT part is incoming though
>>214125687>t I kind of liked the magic breathing more than the StandsSame, I checked out after 2 seasons of Stands, just wasn't interested in them.
>>214128064He is half black but he got most of the black genes
>>2141265373 lower than 8 is a crazy take
>>214126591yes, the anime is essentially a frame to frame adaptation it's about as faithful as it gets
>>214128064I don't think so, he's just a swarthy mediterranean.
>>214127325it's flamboyant, which is conflated with faggotry nowadays
>>214127325Araki is the gayest straight man you could ever find
Friendly reminder that there are the fandub of the manga on YT and they're actually good
>>214128064He's just a swarthy Italian-American. Weather Report is his fraternal twin. Yes, he still looks Black and I don't really care of Black people want to cosplay as him.
>>214125687Spin mogs all, part 7 is the bestPart 8 is too fucking confusing. Stands don't translate well in manga anymore. They'd probably be confusing in anime too with how quickly and terribly they explain everything
>>214128101I liked most of JoJolion until the last 20 or so chapters. Stardust Crusaders was too generic monster-of-the-week for my liking (although I get that format was easier for Araki to figure out what he wanted to do with Stands) and Vento Aureo is just a better Part 5 in that regard. Phantom Blood is obviously the least-good Part since it's Fist of the North Star mixed with Dracula with Jonathan being the generic goody-two shoes protagonist that serves as an excellent baseline for his descendants to play off of.
>>214128238They are half-black and half-white.
>>214128267Spin > Hamon7 = KinoJohnny and Gyro a bestValentine a best
>>214128282Incorrect, though I understand why you think you're right. Wes Bluemarine's (a.k.a. Weather Report, a.k.a. Domenico Pucci) adoptive mother (the woman who switched him at birth with her dead child, making the Puccis think Domenico died shortly after birth) is the one who married a Black man in 1972 and the detective in that panel assumed he was half-Black despite looking White while her real baby died shortly after birth and THAT baby is half-Black, not Weather Report. The Puccis are therefore fully Italian-American without any Black blood in them.
>>214128094Incorrect. A common misconception.See >>214128282>>214128309
>>214128382OopsSee >>214128372
>>214125687Lisa Lisa best waifu. Best MILFu. Best mom. Best mom-for-incest.
>>214128274*a better Part 3 in that regard
>>214125687I haven't kept up with the series in almost a decade but I always found it hard to rank each part since they're intentionally supposed to be so different from each other. If I had to pick an objectively best one it'd be 7 in terms of sheer quality of writing and art, or 2 for how much it built upon the foundation of a FotNS ripoff and really is the beginning of Araki combining his various influences to create something unique. But really it's carried super hard by Joseph being such a great protagonist. Also disappointing to hear how Jojolion apparently turned out, I think I stopped reading after the beetle fight but it had a lot of promise
>>214128465Reminder that Lisa Lisa is the only woman who even attempts to help in the first five parts, and the only time she gets into a fight, she instantly loses and becomes a hostage and has to be rescued by Nazis.
>>214128585Lisa Lisa and Caesar being so useless is one of the worst aspects of BT
>>214127325It is meterosexual
>>214128554JoJolion is kino up until right after the hospital arc, at which point the final 15 or so chapters are disappointing dick jerking around trying to avoid the main antagonist's Stand until they beat it via asspull. It's a very disappointing ending to what was an otherwise amazing Part.
>>214128554>>214128585>>214128643Hence why Part 2 has the worst group/squad in all of JJBA (see my >>214126537). Joseph hard carries the Part from start to finish and the only true help he gets is from Speedwagon and Stroheim. Lisa Lisa and Caesar both job so hard it's embarrassing.
>>214126591Totally, Part 7 is it’s own thing but if you’ve seen the anime you’ll be all set for the callbacks and fan service
>>214128643>>214128939Lisa Lisa had to job because editorials wouldn't let Araki to let her win battles so they delegate her into damsel in distress.Frankly after Joseph saves her she should have reward him with sex. Maybe she did after he returned after his funeral and THEN told him she's his mother after he cums.
>>214129003>Maybe she did after he returned after his funeral and THEN told him she's his mother after he cums.Fuck now that's a good doujin premise.
>>214128939My biggest problem with the anime is that it's too faithful, if the side characters in part 2 had a bit more to do and the villains were more fleshed out it'd be perfect. But instead they adapted it warts and all. The part 3 adaptation is worse for that anyway
>>214125914SBR is considered the best part and one of the best manga ever made, retard. You don't see people talk about the manga because you only interact with speds and browns who don't read.
