From the podcast after every ep. editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTPCiA-9Ios>"the eyeball octopus distracted the scientist, it did not try to help her">what about canon? is there canon or it's just about vibe and outlines?>"you can make me care about this stuff, but that's not my instinct">"the big things are sacrosanct">"the rest are stories (movies, books) that dig deeper, but are speculative, how you make a queen, things like that, some other author's ideas">"the real canon is Alien and to a large extent Aliens">"40 years have passed between Alien and Prometheus, we lived 40 years with what the xenomorph story was, 40 years later we get introduced to the black goo and Engineers">"that's another great version of the alien story, but even tho it's Ridley that's kind of alternate fiction">"for me the xenomorph is the ultimate evolutionary predator that has existed for millions of years"So we have it officially now, Hawley does not consider Alien 3, Resurrection, Romulus, Prometheus and Covenant canon. Expect the show to break everything. No Engineers, no black goo, no David, etc.Previous: >>214260566
>>214264992fuck hawley desu, who is he to override ridley?
>>214264992fuck ridley, who the fuck put him in charge of the lore? he was just a guy on the set among a big group of creatives.
>>214264992>drools like a spastik>t-rex arms?>short tail>roided out neck>head turns on a pivot like a retard>looks like a retardis this some downe syndrome alien?
>>214264992>Hawley does not consider Alien 3, Resurrection canon.he's a faggot>Hawley does not consider Romulus, Prometheus and Covenant canon. he's based
>>214264992here's the baby pet alien next episode
>>214265221Would pet
>>214265207kek
>>214265221ffs why, this is almost worser than retconing the space jockey, you can't be showing the alien at this level
>>214264992>"for me the xenomorph is the ultimate evolutionary predator that has existed for millions of years"prometheus and covenant don't contradict this idea. the novelization even states that david didn't invent the xenomorph.
>>214265221>>214265249>>214265274
New design
>>214265283where's his backhead penis extrusion
>>214265274>you can't be showing the alien at this levelthis. there's a good reason he hid away in the original movie and ate all the food on the ship to grow huge before revealing his final form. it's embarrassing as fuck to be seen like that as a xenomorph.
and FINALLY
>>214265322baby fleed
>>214265312it really is :(
>>214265283>>214265303What a cutie patootie the little xeno is
>>214265322after 6 episodes who cares, more deflection from the actual alien, all this wasted cgi could have been used for the alien and correting the fucking mistakes they've made
>>214265380>>214265322fucking shills anyone who thinks this baby alien thing is cute or any other type of shilling bullshit is getting tweeted to nerdrotic so he knows the shills are just as bad on here as with john campea and his shilling crew of this dogshit
Am I the only fucking guy that's actually really interested in the Plant Alien?
>>214265475another piece of filler shit they're going to use to just stretch the last 3 episodes out
if xenos were on earth there would be rich assholes hunting them for sport
>>214265166>one of the almost all retard crew of the maginot gets facehuggged>end result is a downy alienAbout checks out
>>214264992What do we think of their helmet?
>>214264255At least this new show credits Dan OBannon and Ronald Sushett
>>214265540>Hmmmm, I want red imperial guards but I need to add something to make them different...
>>214265540they double as helicopter propeler for quick deployment
>>214264992Prometheus and covenant did a lot wrong but ignoring black goo is a mistake. It's the only thing that has breathed some life into the franchise and retained that unknowable threatening element present in Alien. I enjoyed its presence in Romulus a lot. Really liked seeing that the facehuggers had it present.
>>214265274They already showed it in Alien 3, the scene where it spits acid in the guys face and causes him to fall into the turbine.
This show has Disney all over it. I should fucking hate it, but I don’t for some reason.The Boy Kavalier character is so stupid, but, he has weird charm.
>>214265274Best levels of AvP games were the stealth parts as facehugger and then as baby drone
>>214265638discount Timothy Le shallot but I enjoy him more.
>>214265540Imagine those fuckers trying to have a firefight inside a building and tight corridors using those helmets
Did they not collect a single non-predatorty alien? Feels like random creatures from Evolution and not real samplings of alien life.At least in Alien it was a curiosity or weapon collected from an alien ship, not something picked up from a native planet.
>>214265603Why did she call it/her “little asshole”Was it playing pranks on them or something
>>214265699it's her little cave explorer
Are they trying to tell us that Boy isn’t as smart as he thinks he is? He misquoted Clarke and he doesn’t even know how to fix his synths/hybrids.
>>214265303looks like a nigger rapper with fake teeth
This shit is dumb. The xeno(morph)s are genetically wired to want to kill all humans. They aren’t sympathetic or empathetic or affectionate at all.
>>214265716He called up the ship and organized the sabotage himself. And that footage was uploaded to WY by Morrow. He's a brain fucking dead kike.Yutani plot has gotta be leaking the info about the ship to him so he can fuck up his own company with his incompetence. If the show doesn't end with all four corps nuking Prodigy for "containment" and taking the company apart, I give up on Hawley.
>>214265735
>>214265540The helmet doesn't help, but the whole costume is pretty half-baked. I wasn't sold on the illusion that those are actual guards. They just look like they were thrown together at the last minute and would be better off never being shown near the camera.
>>214265772ebin :D
>>214265768>He called up the ship and organized the sabotage himselfNo. That was the mechanic who called him, as he became disillusioned after the horrific death of his wife and what he is worth to the company. Kavalier didn’t set anything up. He’s not some mastermind, so far as we’ve seen.
>>214265768>He called up the ship and organized the sabotage himselfworst part about this episode. it would have made sense if it was the bald lackey. or maybe even kirsch to make it spicy.
the way the Zknow moves is really funny for some reason, looks like a guy in a costume jumping around but I guess that was the intention
>>214265766Wendy is an android thoughbeit
>>214265768>He called up the ship and organized the sabotage himselfHe didn't know the ship existed, Petrovich was the one who looked up Prodigy and leaked everything to them when he became disgruntled.
>>214265800Either way, there's footage of him. Engineer calling him actually works better for my theory, clearly he had direct Yutani orders.
>>214265817Don’t care. She still looks human. David is stupid too.
>>214265806He didn’t call the ship, the ship called him. He’s an arrogant shithead who wanted it to crash into his city. “Cool alien toys :)”He’s probably going to have an absolutely horrific death if I had to guess.
According to the traitor his wife died from some insect laying eggs in her eyes.I’m assuming it’s those flying insects we haven’y seen (released) yet.
>>214264992>Hawley does not consider Alien 3, Resurrection, Romulus, Prometheus and Covenant canonHe's literally me!
>>214265828If the ship travels faster than light itself how are they communicating with earth ahead of time
>>214265941Dude it’s Disney. Have you seen how bad their containment procedures were? It’s in theme for the setting but I still find it hilarious. DEI hires indeed!
>>214265735lel
>>214264992pic related should have been wendy instead of the retarded nepo baby
>>214265941They've been able to live chat with people on earth since the first movie
Okay but did those bugs really NEED to fart fucking NERVE GAS?????
>>214264992Awful scene. Terrible actress. Looks like she tries not to laugh. Zero tension, zero horror, just bland, terrible, awful acting. Terrible looking xeno. This episode was so shit, I can't believe a lot of you faggots really think it was good.
>>214265973It should be a lot more delayed or a lot more tedious to communicate, me thinks.
>>214265634do you see the fucking difference between a shadowy alien for a split second spitting in a guys face compared to a trailer for an episode where we will get more than 5 minutes of it in open light in a glass box, is this some kind of fucking joke, alien 3 was cinematic this is pure bullshizen
>>214265766>The xeno(morph)s are genetically wired to want to kill all humans.Source?
Not everything needs to be "delayed" too just because your retarded
>>214265322>builds a nest>out of nothingBravo
>>214265772how come a 40 year old bodysuit looks better than this?
>>214265978Yes because it’s funny “Uh oh lethal stinky”
>>214264992This xenomorph is so lame, so small a normal sized man could tackle it, and one could even handcuff it, with it's hands behind it's back. It look like a larper in a bodysuit. One could push it's long head to the ground, and pin it down with it's body, making it's mouth useless too. Only have the tail spear to worry about, but could just secure that into some sticky substance, where it could push in, but could not pull out, so it could no longer move it anymore. Only chance it would have is intentionally breaking it's own limbs, and hoping to escape using it's acid blood, but it have only so many limbs to try. E.g. what if the cyborg would have sprayed it with some quick hardening industrial concrete instead, of the flexible thing, and have it truly stuck, just needing to be moved by some forklift, or crane, after cutting a hole for it in the building.
>>214266041They sense fear and their instinct is to just fucking murder you >>214266055Dumb doro poster
>>214266032That's been every alien scene in the show though, they never attempt to hide it in the dark anymore, even though it added a lot of creep factor to the original
>>214266078the suit itself doesn'tdesign was better but the quality was pretty poorbut the head and mouth of the 40 year old costume looks a lot better
>>214264992Alien franchise is the vehicle to tell his story but what is the subtext of the story Hawley is telling? If you look beyond all the Alien stuff the audience expects what is he actually trying to say, if anything, with this show? Is it really just the importance of family?
>le heckin' evil negro is just misunderstood
Why don’t Facehuggers go for the ass? Or the bellybutton? There’s a lot more room to implant embryos in the actual digestive tract, not the chest or lungs.
>>214266118shut the fuck up faggot show me where they showed it in Aliens or Alien, where in Alien 3 apart from the birth scene and the spitalso anything after 3 doesnt count it's all faggotry
>>214264992>the eyeball octopus distracted the scientist, it did not try to help herslander. eyeball-chan is nice but misunderstood
>>214266102>This xenomorph is so lame, so small a normal sized man could tackle it,he didn't overpower it or anythingjust jumped on itanyway my headcanon is that zombeye can override the body restrictions that prevent self harm, maybe provide stronger impulses to the nervous system, damage the muscles but push them beyond normal limithe doesn't really care for the damage he can burn through the host and ditch itactivate tard strength like people in distress lifting beyond normal capacity
Do we know the net time this crew spent awake during those 65 years?In any case: You gotta be a full retard if you've got family and decide to fuck off on a 65 year trip like that. Especially Morrow. What the fuck is he crying about? Did he not understand that his Daugther would be dead by the time he returned?
>>214266137During that scene, the lights inside the cable were moving the wrong way.If he's copying HIS memories TO Weyland-Yutani, then the lights should be moving from his head TO the computer.
>>214266238watch the show
>>214266256what did he mean by this
>>214266218He obviously expected his daughter to have a nice life with his pay, not dying in a fire. Are you autistic?
>>214264992learned today that the old Boy Kavalier character is played by Adrian Edmondson
>>214266285nta, but he means watch that specific scene.maybe you'll understand the context assuming you don't have a hard time understanding basic english.
>>214266313>Option A: Live a decent life with your family>Option B: Dodge being a father and and fuck off somewhere elseNIGGERS
>>214266376>>Option A: Live a decent life with your familyDoing what, retardo?
>>214266376>B because im not a bta cuck and like smashing alot of different pussy and even one night stands are fun
>>214266238Are you absolutely shittered at all times?
Has this series turned into complete dogshit yet?Only watched the first episode and it was surprisingly enjoyable.
>>214266316>No it's not, NiEeel! It should be me! I'm the tawented one! I'm the smwart one!*snorts*
>>214266364I was just rewatching it to be sure the lights were going the way I thought they were going.At first I thought he was copying current world info into his head. But then people in here were saying that all his memories and the ship logs were uploaded to WY's network, etc.
>>214266448
>>214266376I don't think he had a choice. He had to pay back the company for the robot arm.
>>214266439>turnedit never was anything else
>>214266465watch the fucking show
>>214264992NOBODY EXPECTS THE EVIL PETROVICH
>>214266474It's dirty how people get gravely injured work for W-Y and then they are forced by W-Y into indentured servitude to pay the company back for new organs and limbs.
>>214266514Explain you arrogant FUCK
>>214265380>I'M GONNA TELL ON YOU!lol
>>214266376he was getting her top tier opportunitieshe was obviously paid more than the rest of the fuckos
>>214266525Morrow mentioned that he had a withered arm when Yutani's grandmother found him so he might have had a choice. Wendy's brother got his lung fucked up while working for prodigy, had it replaced while he was unconscious and still got threatened for its repayment when he was trying to quit.
>>214266216I like this theory a lot
>>214266521I liked how he missed the big dangerous exposed nigga and aced the headshot on the covered sidekick
>>214266559I wonder if the crew was retard heavy because families would sacrifice a member for benefits like schools and housing.
>>214265978You'd fart nerve gas too if you had to eat British 'cooking'
>>214266559That kid really needs to work on their penmanship if they want to go to college. Very sloppy handwriting. It's barely legible.
>>214266559If Petrovich can talk to earth in real time despite travelling at FTL why can't morrow?
>>214266521who?
>>214266656they were close to earth when petrovitch talked but that might be irrelevantand morrow spent time in stasis, can't talk in real time when you're asleep
>>214266656Maybe the calls were closer to earth and he got those messages when they were out in the further reaches of space
>>214264992Babou Ceesay (playing Morrow) says he learned to be Morrow by watching No country for old men and There will be blood. Is this real or something PR told him to say to fit popular memes?https://youtu.be/zTPCiA-9Ios?t=1123
>>214266656The saboteur fucked up the communications too. Morrow was looking at recordings.
>>214266697>>214266713no they weren't because the whole point is Petrovich is co-erced into being prodigies bitch boy because he lost his wife and he' bitter about it so that well after the fucking journey, but nice cope shill
>>214264992>Hawley does not consider Alien 3, Resurrection, Romulus, Prometheus and Covenant canon.Why is this allowed? Don't the bigwigs realize an incoherent mess is not a good product?
>>214266580Yeah, but that arm is badass. No kid could resist it.>Check it out! It's got a Rambo knife, and a blow torch! And all kinds of super spy stuff like computer file copying and encryption!>Oh, boy! Where do I sign up?!
>>214266656marrow's company benefits do not cover spacephone bills
I have no idea how to properly tonemap this shit. Anyone knows?
>>214266619I dunno but they were unfazed that the bitch can just deny him a quarter of his 65 year commitment compensation for no real reasonpeople would throw a bitchfit if you took their monthly wage
>>214266761>Don't the bigwigs realize an incoherent mess is not a good product?bigwigs are getting bent over a table of cocaine while kathleen kennedy type of whores watch so they have dirt on them in the future to blackmail them with, there is nobody who cares about these franchises, the whole goal is to crash and burn them because they have too much hold on the generations that matter and it's disrupting the influence of the younger generation
>>214266758Not arguing further with a shitskin ESL
>>214266770fuck black inspector gadget
>>214266785>a quarter >one sixteenth
>>214266796holy shit you might want to take your meds if that's your rebuttal
>>214266616too many dumb things happened during that episode to even bother to count themthat episode was Benny Hill tier
how would you rather die you can only pick one>A Facehugger>B Eyeball>C Tick Water
>>214266822You wouldn't say that if he was pointing the blow torch at your crotch.
>>214266691THE EVIL PETROVICH
>>214266877I would rather die by memory copying unto a synth.
>>214266521>timeline where USSR still exists>not even doing badly>year 100 of the special 3 day military operation to capture Hohol-9>backstab all your coworkers and release bioweapons on Earth just so another company might give you an android bodySASUGA ROSSIYA
>>214266545he was downloading mission data from the ship so he can destroy the computer and leave nothing for prodigyhe fucking said sohow the fuck could he be copying anything to WY when he's on a crashed shiphow the fuck can he be copying current world info when he's on a crashed ship
>>214266879he wouldnt even get that far you think I would let a ESL DEI hire do that to me?
Now that we have confirmed low sperm count guy is the one that ranjeet feeds to the xeno, this also confirms leak that the other niglet (dumb one) partners with him.
>>214266907I don't know... He's pretty sneaky.
>Don't get to see the actress with big tits slosh around as she runs away from aliensGayest episode
>>214266896beats the western DEI hire crew that can't even seal a jar of highly dangerous alien contagion
>>214266905im so confused you guys are confusing me>>214266915you mean Aarush
>>214266937She should be wendy. see >>214265968
>>214266915what even is the purpose of the niglet? they all have side quests except him, actually the other isaac newton niglet also has zero relevance
>>214266758this doesn't have anything to do with what we said
>>214266793grim
>>214266968you fuckers said it was close to earth how can it be close to earth if the white niggas wife died on their expedition back, make it make sense, anyways
>>214266842yes
>>214264992>No Engineers, no black goo, no David, etc.Holy based.
>>214266316>old Boy Kavalier characterWhat?
>>214266905Hmmm nyes I see. The computer did say something about erasing the original content.But then this means that there's no evidence about Kavalier talking to Petrovitch anymore.
>>214266999what the fuck are you talking aboutspeak like an actual human being you illiterate fuck
>>214264992>No Engineers, no black goo, no David, etc.Dog shit
>>214266950>you mean AarushYeah, Aarush Ranjeet, his full name.
>>214267035None of this is canon.
>>214267053its actually Aarush Singh
>>214267057its made by Ridley himself, he was even on set for like a quarter of both productions
I can't explain it but it's just dogshitI'm trying to watch ep 5 but I just can't do itIt's like a theater kid version of Alien
>>214265618It's non-name alone makes it unthreatening. And it's vague as hell. Hawley's done nothing wrong.
>>214267090>trying to watchfucking man up and watch it you bitch, it's actually got a good ending for once
>>214267089>its made by Ridley himselfOh I'm sorry, I forgot that Ridley Scott personally designed the Alien aesthetics and plotted the script.I thought he was just a director for hire, fresh off The Duellists.
So the hybrid technology is not top, TOP secret? Some random W-T engineer knows about it?
>>214266915>this also confirms leak that the other niglet (dumb one) partners with him.What leak? it's been in the previews for ages.
>>214267093>Hawley's done nothing wrong.He's directed the talent badly. Everyone is chewing their lines. Morrow looking just like Parker merely invites unfavourable comparisons to the naturalism of Alien.
>>214267133Why you fuckers hate ridley so much just because he didn't explain your shitty space jockey? Because he didn't make it exactly like Aliens 1? Because it's not a slow moving shitty movie, grow the fuck up, the world has moved on we want a more visceral alien movie and that's what we're getting one that actually makes it "Alien" sick of you fucking haters
>>214267153It can't be top secret. It's a product they are going to sell. It was probably teased on every billboard.
>>214267093>Hawley's done nothing wrong.He directed the only 2 epsiodes that are on the maginot so he can do his little Alien "homage" ima. fanboy faggotry and left the rest for everyone else to fuck up
>supposed to be extremely smart child PRODIGY with a trillion dollars>only has acted like a dumb retard so farthey better use some asspull and make him sinister in these final episodes instead of a bumbling retard
>>214267183I dislike Ridley because he tried to lay claim to something that isn't his.He was a director for hire, nothing more.Alien was a group project of which he was an important part but my no means the driving force.
>>214267211for someone so smart why does he have a conversation with petrovich knowing that every video gets recorded?make it make sense
>>214266316I learned this by recognising him. Plus his name comes up in the credits.
>The one episode everyone thought would be good ended up being the worst episode of this shitfest so far.
>>214267229you're making out he was brought on like Fincher was in 3
>>214267233he can just say the video is fake
>>214267244>worst episode of this shitfestpic related?
>>214267233Because he deleted it and it wasn't recovered until well after he sabotaged everything
>>214267258even dumber
>>214267244i thought it was good
>>214267153they made the impression it's a secret for now but maybe it isn't
I watched half of the first episode and stopped because it was cringeNow I'm trying to watch ep5 which I was assured would be kinoWell it's even worseWhat gives?
>>214267244the fuck kind of fantasy land are you living ineveryone is praising it
>>214267244what a twist!
>>214267272If you think online ratings for corporate products are actually authentic then I'm not surprised you liked this garbage.
>>214264992>Gets beaten by a child in a robot body offscreenA pretty bad look for something that's supposed to be the ultimate evolutionary predator.
>>214267244ep5 was good bro, my only nit pick is that it was weird how no one really seemed to care that their coworkers were dying initially.
>>214267318It was the ultimate predator. Against humans, that is.
whats the deal with that eyeball nigga
>season almost over>muuh 5 aliens>no fly>no plantbravo noah you fucking retarded liar
>>214267318The synths are kinda busted, Wendy jumped off a massive cliff and that would have killed a drone for sure if they tried the same thing. She could probably rip one to bits if they didn't have that pesky acid blood.
>>214267347People die all the time bro, whats for dinner?
>>214267198Then the dying kid's parents should be at least a bit suspicious.
>>214267388>that pesky acid blood.you mean that jobber shit that can't even melt a fucking paper cutter?
>>214266785Alright bitch, guess who's gonna wake from their next cryosleep pregnant?
>>214267426you weren't supposed to notice that...SHUT IT DOWN
>>214267388They introduce her robot form with this big sign of invulnerability and half the audience immediately forgets she's going to be very hard to hurt. I was surprised one xeno even managed to knock her out.
>>214267475Well they show the same xeno barge over a filled cargo container and decapitate rooms full of people in seconds.
I get this sweaty just using the toilet
>>214267035>No Engineers, no black goo, no David, etc.Good
>>214267475How can her body bare the hydraulic impact strain of jumping off a cliff being totally fine, but at the same time she gets a robo concussion from a tiny cut from the xenomorph? Does the xeno now have the kinetic energy transfer a dozen Blue Whales?
>>214267599Who ever handles the spritzing of this guy's FX sweat every episode should be paid more.
>>214267655she got hit by the chatter feedback or some shit
Odd that only now we got to see the xeno grow into a little guyBefore it was all offscreen or vaginal wall covered
This Chinegro is my favorite character.
>>214267599This scene was my favorite because I never really even considered this as a possible reaction a cyborg would have when downloading shit loads of data. Usually when you see a cyborg/part robot thing interfacing with any kind of machine they don't really react except for just staring off into the distance and slightly looking around like they see the actual data flying towards them or some shit
>>214267272yea because none of those 3k reviewers are glazing or paid shills right? fuck outta here i rather watch mauler and nerdrotic for reviews now because they are the most honest
>>214267732watch johnny mnemonichttps://youtu.be/B01qdizkq5o?t=82
>>214267732Never seen the Matrix, huh?
>>214267684It would be nice if the show made sense and only now was she getting the feedback AFTER encountering and fighting one, instead of, for no reason, from the very start.
>>214267844>/25(Thu)15:58:08 No.214267288▶> I watched half of the first episode and stopped because it was cringe> Now I'm trying to watch ep5 which I was assured would be kino> Well it's even worse> What gives?Alien, Aliens, Alien 3. Thats it.
So I was thinking. With Hawley blatantly calling Prometheus and Covenant alternates we will need a clear delineation between the original works and his stuff. I propose.Alien (original)>Alien>Aliens>Alien 3>Alien Resurrection>Prometheus>Alien Covenant>Alien RomulusAlien (alternate)>Alien>Aliens>Alien EarthAvP>AvP>AvP Requiem>Predator Badlands
>>214267886Alien, Aliens, Alien 3. Thats it.
>>214267844romulus is not canonanything that isn't a direct sequel is a hack job and not canon
>>214267018Very unbased
>>214265768>>214265830>>214265941Why is the fanbase here and on reddit so fucking stupid?
>>214267951>it's a man in a suitWhat an awful, awful show.
Is Boy actually gonna "play" with that synth chick? seems a little fucked up considering the circumstances
>>214267203Why do these people always only direct an episode or two. If i was involved in something and putting my name to it I'd want the entire thing to be mine and the best it could be.
>>214267375>>214267375answer mewhy was it calling the xenomorph in the ending sceneand did the eyeball control it successfully?
>>214267026He copied the data to himself you stupid fuck
>>214265283If the xenos only need the flesh/nutrients from a single lung, why don't multiple huggers impregnate one body?
>>214267272I hope to fucking god Dan O'Bannon is only credited because he wrote Alien and he didn't have any hand in this
Why does everybody in every conversation consider ALIENS canon?In my opinion the only canon original movie is Alien. The concept of a queen in not canon.Seriously go watch Alien, and then Aliens, it doesn't even feel like the same universe
>>214268055That's correct, he's been credited for every single piece of Alien media because he created the damn thing.
>>214265280Hawley is a retard. He literally got stuck on the idea of david creating them like the other drooling retards that pop up every thread. I don't understand how idiots think just because he fucked around with the goo and looked at engineer shit that already existed that means he created xenos. He didn't and they existed before.
>Chief Scientist gets facefucked by the facehugger>Shithead nigger is left to care for the specimens>Chief Security Officer is competent>His assistant is a shithead>Chief Engineer is the saboteur>Engineer under him is level headed, his apprentice doesn't know the difference between biology and geology though>Captain gets facefucked and dies do to stupid junkie doctor>Assistant to him is an incompetent retard that was fucking the chief science officer>Doctor is a junkieI mean, plot conveniences aside, at least they made it a point to show that the leadership was fucked and they had to rely on the retards to deal with the situation
>>214268076>Seriously go watch Alien, and then Aliens, it doesn't even feel like the same universeIt's 60 years in the future. What do you think our world was like 60 years ago?
>>214268076I don't know, man. Usually I'd only say that the second act of Alien is canon. The first act is all sit-com shit about being on a spaceship, and then the third act has Ripley suddenly transform into an action hero? NO WAY MAN, not *my* Alien. Act 2 canon or nothing.
>>214268094Deacons existed before, the actual xeno is David's work
>>214268121>What do you think our world was like 60 years ago?The same as now, minus the internet.
>>214268117>>Shithead nigger is left to care for the specimensWhat specifically is her position?>at least they made it a point to show that the leadership was fuckedNo, they had stupid characters do incredibly stupid things because that is the crutch bad writing lives on.
>>214268146According to who? Even in covenant, David's creations don't match the design of later Xenomorphs.
>>214268023It started witg hawley wanting to make a sci fi about corpos, androids and if your conciousness is in a robot body are you really you.That got rejected, so he offered nepo wendy and nepo nibbs roles in exhange for their parents throwing weight behind it.That got some traction but not enough, a producer at disney had promised the execs he would put out a new alien property.Hawley was topd he could do his show if he slapped an alien skin on it.I have no source but if you want you can google image search >drmanhattenitwasrevealedtomeinadream.png
>>214268157>minus the internet.And that hasn't drastically changed society at all, has it?
>>214268137Even the start of Aliens completely throws out all of Ripley's character development in Alien. I get she has an arc about PTSD and over coming it, but it is jarring.
>>214268055Dan O'bannon has been dead for 15 years.
>>214268185>Even the start of Aliens completely throws out all of Ripley's character development in Alien.How.
why did Nibs say she was pregnant? I get she was freaked out by her experience on the ship but that was some bizarre coping mechanism
>white guy cant eat spicy food and starts coughingthey just couldnt help themselves could they
Actually guys this frame here is the only one I'll ever consider to be canon.
>>214268214Because a robot can't get pregnant and she doesn't want to be a robot. Good thing we have Level 3 which is just a button that calls two fleshbags!
>>214266937Indeed, very grim
>>214268191has anyone told his wife
>>214268158Chibuzo was another science officer under Chief Science Officer Bronski(face hugged guy who dies in cryo). We don't know how under she was, if she was just an apprentice or just a science officer under the Chief.
What's the deal with Chibozo? How can you be this dumb? T_T
>>214268225This is the only one I recognise.
>>214268283>first xeno jobs>second xeno becomes a petI forgive Aliens for making them into zerg rush bugs that died in the dozens This worse
>>214268264In episode 1 before anyone is facehugged the chief engineer refers to them as "Chibuzo's specimens". She wasn't some minor Science officer that had to pick up the pieces, she wasn't some dumb nignog who was washing floors previously.
>>214267198Why would they tease a product that doesn't even exist yet? Even their operations on the kids was top secret and implied to be illegal.
>>214268284not canon
did they give them dicks and pussies?
>>214268346There's no illegality when his company is the highest legal force on the continent. Only retrieving the alien specimens would have global implications.
>>214268283Priorities, and the fault of Zaveri (acting captain). When Petrovitch caused the fire to kill the navigation systems and released the eggs, it caught the Chief Medic and the Captain. She was left to command and she is shown throughout the episode to value the crew's life over the cargo. This is shown when Morrow asks if they checked the other specimens and everyone is like "Oh right". Chibuzo then is overheard saying "this is the reason I eat in the science bay" or something to that effect because Mr. Teng creeps her out. In essence, the whole thing happened because of sabotage and the acting Captain taking priority with the crew instead of finding the saboteur and making sure that the specimens were all secure. Even if the Chibuzo thing hadn't happened, the Xeno would have still fucked them up. >>214268340She was shown doing the equivalent of watching them and taking notes. She wasn't doing anything extraordinary and "her specimens" could just easily be meant to be seen as her being tasked with observing and doing the logs. I mean, the apprentice engineer was a certified dumbass and was tasked with repairing some panels and that wasn't made out to be a big deal.
>>214268168Well yeah we see him get extremely close and then he embarks on his voyage of experimentation on the colonists in part to make a queen.
I thought the Teng guys was a synth or something. He talked so weird.
>>214266937>>214268237Those tits really aren't as impressive as you're making them out to be.
>>214268174These consciousness shows are always made by fucking retarded jews so they never get to any real substance from it. The answer is that you can't really transfer you, the robot would be a different subjective. However where it becomes interesting is does that also carry over to ourselves with cellular turn over - does any 'you' actually persist beyond memory of past events. My belief is not really and the you of tomorrow isn't really the you of now. Just a series of chained thoughts and memories that give a sensation of a persistent subjective being. But instead the shows will just say "maybe the robot is them :) if they have a heart they are human beens"
>>214265221AWWWWWWW SO CUTEEEEEE <3 <3 <3 I NEED A PLUSHIE NOW!!!! DISNEY TAKE MY MONEY !!!!!!!!!!
>>214268225Based frame respecter
>>214268433>then he embarks on his voyage of experimentation on the colonists in part to make a queen.When does this happen? Is this from a comic or something?
>>214268428>the apprentice engineer was a certified dumbass and was tasked with repairing some panels and that wasn't made out to be a big deal.He was assigned to welding the steering column so they wouldn't crash on Earth
>>214264992How is Ridley allowing this disrespect when he is a producer on the show?
These chucklefucks managed to capture all these dangerous aliens? I guess all the competent crewmembers were in stasis.
>>214268549End of covenant and the Covenenant: Advent message
>>214268428>She wasn't doing anything extraordinary and "her specimens" could just easily be meant to be seen as her being tasked with observing and doing the logs. The specimens "ARE THE MISSION". Even watching them, given how dangerous we know they are, how many of the crew have been killed to get them, is an important task. Even more so since we see no one else doing anything with them.>the apprentice engineer was a certified dumbass There is no way he would be selected for a 65yr mission of that importance.
How is the entire crew so fucking dumb. Seriously, what the hell. I usually don't even pick up on this kind of shit, but these people are all borderline retarded.
>>214268499I think a big part of this is that anything made by a Jewish writer/director has a really hard time showing sincerity, just because they aren’t very good at writing it. So the majority of the script is smug irony/deconstruction with the attempts at sincere characters being perfectly infallible or otherwise not believable. (See: Wendy)This is a big reason I wasn’t a huge fan of Spaceballs. Sure, it’s funny in the abstract, but you can only go so far on “isn’t this work by other people stupid?”
>>214268592It's confusing why she's even doing tests on them. With the crew mostly in stasis it's clear it's a transport vessel and not designed as an operational lab. Just get them back in one piece rather than having some nigger bitch tell them what happened to the alien bugs when she gave them a dead rat until one sharted in her face.
>>214268617My headcanon is that the entire mission is fake; only the black security robot guy had the real objective, which was to make sure a ship full of bioweapons crashed in Boy Retard’s backyard.
>>214268569>David only mentions creating a Queen in the Advent short filmHmm. Well I'm still not sure how that means he created Xenomorphs but alright. So you think the Xenomorph didn't exist before? Only the deacon? Is there any evidence they didn't exist before?
>>214268679Well with the backbursters, deacon and fifield mutation it looks like the goo tends to make xeno-like creatures but we only see the actual 90% complete xeno at the end of covenant from David's creations. So it's assumed that the xenomorph we knew didn't exist before. Obviously there are all the issues of his xeno being shit compared to the insta-spore aliens but regardless.
>>214266208The fact we can't tell if it was helping or distracting, and what it did later with jeet xo and the xeno, shows how bad this shit is written and directed
Give it to me straight bros - what are the chances the hot girl survived the crash in her stasis pod.
>>214268782none. ukranian subhumans deserve total dearh, no exceptions.
>>214268592>he would be selected for a 65yr mission of that importance.Why are you guys under the impression these missions are top priority of human advancement where we only take the best of the best? These are 65 year contracts where everyone you know will die. Where you get creeps like Teng, emotionally dead ones like Morrow, idiots like Clem or Malachite, or ones with nothing to lose like Morrow or Shmuel? In the original Alien, they were the equivalent of space truckers. Yeah, they're science officers and doctors but you guys act like they're these 150 IQ top 1% humans being sent out on these missions. God knows how many DSR vessels the corpos have where they throw 50 billion on a ship and some crew thats probably .5% of their whole wealth, for a chance to gain trillions in research. They're doing the equivalent of gambling quarters at a casino machine. I doubt Yutani would have given a single solitary fuck if the ship had crashed on the moon and completely desintegrated. "Oh, that one ship my grandma sent 65 years ago crash? Oh well, there are like 200 more on the way in the next 10 years". If we were talking Prometheus were its an experimental vessel with top tier people being sent to investigate with the top brass of Weyland on board and they acted like absolute idiots, then yes, you can complain about that. But this are burnt outs with nothing going on wanting to make it big with a insignicant percentage share on a corporation.
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>>214268921They would get a certain % of 150IQ faqs, but it would be rare to be on a ship with mostly them. What happens if the corporation that sent the ship goes out of business in the meantime? The shares of the ship would be bought out by another corporation? Would they be getting some 'unknown ships' returning all the time as records were lost?
Xenomorph CGI in Covenant was waaaaaaaaaay better. Like it was creepy real, the movements were strange and odd and scary. It had some unique texture with real muscles.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7AaTYSqo3QIn Alien:Earth xenomorph is not even registering amongst the other aliens, even the eye thingy is more intresting, while the xenomorph looks all CGI rubbery and fake undetailed.
>>214268557Ridley Scott is a stupid old manHe did not write Alien.
>>214268985Its crazy that A:E fumbled the bag so bad people are looking back positively at covenant now
>>214268921>In the original Alien, they were the equivalent of space truckers.Because in the original Alien they were literally space truckers on a few months mission hauling commercial cargo. This is A 65 YEAR MISSION to collect valuable biological specimens. This is completely specialized and would require severe intelligence and psychological restrictions. You aren't going to risk you 65 yr mission because the apprentice has a double digit IQ. You aren't going to risk your 65 yr mission to collect valuable dangerous creatures on "scientists" too stupid to contain hazardous biological animals. The ONLY reason Teng's behavior would be tolerated would be if he was a synth and they needed him to run the ship while they were in cryo. It's now been revealed he wasn't a synth making the toleration of his behavior all the more retarded.
>>214265322>>214265303anyone who is okay with this is a faggot
>>214268985we really out here comparing cgi in a tv production to a movie?
cringe show. the alien looks gay and moves homosexuallyI'd rather watch Prometheus or covenant again over this slop anymore
>>214268463I wonder if they filmed the scene in episode 1 with the idea that he'd be a synthetic without knowing what the plot would be, and by the time they got to this episode they didn't know how to tie him into the story so they just dropped the idea and left him human
why didn't morrow tell kirsh and the hybrid kids that their boy genius boss caused his ship to crash to earth with deadly aliens inside? they might not have believed him but it would have been worth it for the potential distrust and chaos it might have caused within prodigy
>>214269036I always looked on Covenant as a flawed film that at least had some original Alien spirit at its core.I think without studio insistence on 'le xenomorph' at every turn and the horrible space station alien one rehash finale with obligatory BLACKED insertion it could have been great.
>>214268985looks weightless and lame. the only thing i remember from these movies are the engineers, but that was a real actor with real biomechanical skin makeup. the praetomorph just looks like some early 2000's CGI crap.
>>214268985>even the eye thingy is more intrestingProbably because the faggot showrunner seems more interested in his own creation, the eye-thingy. He's using Alien franchise to introduce his own stupid shit that he couldn't put into an original IP
>>214269142I get the impression in a more fleshed out story he was meant to be a red herring that there may be a chestburster in the girl that he was watching. But it doesn't really carry over in a rushed show.
In the original movie, the Alien grows within the span of what, like a few hours at most?It bursts from Kane's chest and runs off, then they jettison his body into space, maybe an hour or two passed after it burst from his chest and ran off. Then they immediately formulate a plan to track / hunt down the alien to kill it, and right as they begin searching the Alien grabs Brett after he finds some shed exoskeleton on the ground to imply it grew larger in the meantime.So how do they deal with this discrepancy? How can the alien be a tiny creature in the next episode when it is shown to be able to grow to a full sized adult as seen in the original movie in the span of a few hours? Also, what is the mechanism by which the alien's cells divide fast enough and it is able to grow a hard exoskeleton that is literally 20x+ the size of what it was when it came out of Kane within a few hours at most?
>>214269181The eye thing is complete crap. It's SCP tier with no thought whatsoever to it making sense functionally or as part of an ecosystem. It's just an eye on top of tentacles.
>>214269254"I don't consider Alien (1979) to be canon"--Noah Hawley
>>214269254Think it's meant to be a couple of days until it re-emerges. The nostromo is gargantuan with the cargo.
apparently Teng is just a weirdo masturbator hacker, he just got on the ship for money and doesn't interact with other crew membersi can imagine that person being real
>>214269254if this is the case, maybe the writers/production team made it grow inside a single lung to imply that this xenomorph has adapted for poor nutrition and slow growth. so it took the host's DNA as all xenomorphs have done so far, but the lack of mass in the host made it think it's best to prepare for slow growth in this environment.
>>214269145Because that would spoil the reveal.
>>214269369>apparently Teng is just a weirdo masturbator hackerPerfect choice for this important mission! Sign him up! What could possibly go wrong!
>>214268225For me?
so who captured all those aliens ? i doubt it was the 80 IQ Crew.
>>214266058Well, where does the alien get all of it's mass? It goes from chest burster to full grown in a day or two with out eating anything. It's pure moron writing from those who think that food magically appears in stores.
>>214269544It was other 80iq assholes who aren't depicted on screen.
>>214269602>in a day or two with out eating anythingYou don't know either of those things.
>>214268027It didn't control the xenomorph, because the xeno doesn't have eye balls. Did you watch the ep? The xenomorph threw off the eyeball guy
>>214265540>pulse vectorOh my God can we get guns that DON'T have a fucking carry handle and ammo counter?
>dude is so afraid of the woke mob he hesitates whenever he sees a woman or a minoritymany such cases
epic show
>>214269725Just like the predator in Prey it never looked more like a guy in a suit.
>>214269602I always assumed it went off an ate some shit. The nostromo is big and likely has some food around.
Why this tick didn't release neuro-toxin gas in this moment, but would release gas later?
Is the eyejack a rival to the xeno on whatever world they come from? How inteligent is it? Is its intelect relative to whatever creature hosts it?>>214268774Making the creature an enigma and Not knowing its intentions is GOOD writing, you are just profoundly retarded
>>214269544Apparently there was another team, that got mostly killed during acquiring them. The whole crew stuff is just really badly done imo. >Captain/other people dying? Who cares, let's crack some jokes. >Saboteur on board? Yawn, whatever. >Oh we're going to crash into earth? Shit happens I guess, ... anyways... >Ayylium containment breach? So what? I'm gonna eat some food and slurp this water real quick.Couple that with the alien being a fucking retard again and not being able to catch up to some 40 year old hag strolling through the ship. Or getting btfo by the enigneer/eyeball. Apex predator btw.This whole episode was kinda infuriating, especially if you think about what could've been...
>>214268463well synths don't talk weird
>Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Alien: Resurrection, Prometheus, Alien: Covenant, Alien: Romulus, Alien: Isolation, Aliens: The Computer Game, Aliens: Alien 2, Aliens Online, Aliens: Thanatos Encounter, Aliens: Unleashed, Aliens: Extermination, Aliens: Infestation, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Aliens: Armageddon, Alien: Blackout, Aliens: Fireteam Aliens: Outbreak, Aliens: Theory of Alien Propagation, Aliens: Nightmare Asylum, Aliens: Female War, Aliens: Countdown, Aliens: Reapers, Aliens: The Alien, Aliens: Genocide, Aliens: Harvest, Aliens: Tribes, Aliens: Renegade, Aliens: Horror Show, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Aliens: Earth Angel, Aliens: Rogue, Aliens: Sacrifice, Alien3: Terminal Addiction, Aliens: Taste, Aliens: Crusade, Aliens: Backsplash, Aliens: Labyrinth, Aliens: Salvation, Aliens: Cargo, and Aliens: Alien are all great versions of the Alien story, but they exist in kind of an alternate fiction. It's not my Alien. I didn't consider them when writing Alien: Earth.-Noah Crawley
>>214269770It was considerate of the plot
>>214269770Only larva can release gas
>>214269770It likes eating living hosts so it only gases you if you try to peel it off mid-feeding.
>>214269779>whole point guy called cavalier was cause his wife died during capturing themYou can't just say it's a whole different crew when one crew member literally states the reason he treasoned was cause of it.
>>214269770>Why this tick didn't piss with a hardon?Woman detected.
Why would they dump the body into space? Its stupid for so many reasons. Like what about just freezing it and bringing it home? Why pollute the space with the bodies that potentially contain alien embryos? Since aliens are property of the company, the company wouldn't want that body to be disposed of, so the recommendation from the mother would be cryo-preservation. They need every kilo of that precious alien biological material.it looks like the scene is just a stupid homage to old movies like Alien 1 and Alien 3(they burn the bodies there), instead of being contemplated part of the plot.
>>214269896It's like burial at sea, you dumb fuck.
>>214269896>Why pollute the space with the bodies that potentially contain alien embryos?Assuming it's not jettisoned with too much force, it will maintain roughly the same trajectory as the ship and burn up in the atmosphere.
>>214269777>The tick has escaped>POV of eye watching the tick escape>eye bangs on glassTo anyone who isn't a blithering imbecile this scene implies the eye is trying to warn the tick has escaped, not distract to allow the tick to do something it has already done.>POV of eye seeing the tick mess with the mechanism>Eye bangs on glass>Scientist looks at eye and says something while you see the tick escape in the backgroundTHAT is how you actually show a successful distraction. The fact that they then show these dangerous, valuable specimens are kept on a precarious height you have to awkwardly access is only compounded by the fact the containers are made of glass that shatters when it falls from said height. Utter fucking moronic garbage for stupid fucking retards.
>>214269896If the threads are just gonna be filled with questions and speculation this stupid, rather then focusing on the interesting parts of the show, then i guess ill be skipping out on discussions for this show this time aroundJesus christ
>>214269971Holy shit, Jesus Christ watches this crap!
>>214269943Corporations cutting corners. Idiots getting the job after lying on their resumes. Shit pay for a shit job. This is actually pretty realistic. lmao
>>214269770Wasn't actively feeding at the moment? Dunno, don't expect any answers. They just do shit however they want to move the plot forward. Medic not dying 3 times to the ayy.Ayy not being able to catch up to captain girl, while standing not even a meter away from her. ""Science" officer" lady drinking and eating in her lab, I mean, studying aliens in her dining room. Engineer apprentice being an absolute retard, you wonder how he even puts on his pants every morning. etc>>214269857Alright, but that reveal felt shit. Especially when the dude then just showed up to shoot at the guys (how did he get the gun btw?). Also kills the wounded dude first, with a difficult shot, instead of the cyborg security officer, who then sneaks behind him and nothing personnells him.>>214269943I also thought it tried to warn her, but saw the possibility of it being a distraction. Would've been better without any explanation imo. Especially with it attacking the ayy later on (but also calling it first? I guess to defend itself)
>>214269934no, its stupid. Imagine burial at sea, but you burying a man, who is infected with the Thing.FUCKi just realized how stupid the Thing movie is, because it just needed to run to the ocean, or grow wings and fly to the Ocean, transform into a whale and consume biomass. or maybe it could just melt the ice, and reach ocean beneath. Instead it was fucking with MacReady for no reason. the point is - every body you dump into space can be retrieved. Like what they did in Alien:Romulus. Someone can just catch the body you dumped, and bring it on board, and do research, reconstructing xenomorph DNA from the traces.
>I don't wear any protective garments or gloves.>I bring food and drink into a biohazard containment lab.> keep dangerous specimens in dirty glass tubes and reach into them to feed them with my bare hands.Not exactly out of the manual, is it?
>>214270028>it just needed to run to the oceanDoes it know there's an ocean to run to?
>>214270030do the same work long enough and you start laughing at the manuals. hell most people stop caring about safety stuff after like 2 months and these people have been there for decades
>>214270028>melt the ice, and reach ocean beneathAnon I...
>>214270117Weren't they on ice for most of that time?
>>214270030The bigger issue is doing scientific experiments while in transit. The aliens should be left in cryo until they reach their destination.Also, sending the aliens on Earth is beyond retarded.
>>214269602It either eats - organic and inorganic material through the mouth and nutrients through the vents on its back or builds a cocoon like the one in Romulus that attaches to the power grid and uses that energy to grow it.
>>214270141Yes of course, but I'm sure they work months basically without any real supervision
>>214270028>the point is - every body you dump into space can be retrieved. Like what they did in Alien:Romulus. Someone can just catch the body you dumped, and bring it on board, and do research, reconstructing xenomorph DNA from the traces.No, the Alien: Romulus thing was absolutely retarded. If you drop something in deep space the odds of someone finding it is for all intents and purposes are zero.
>>214269725Why are her nipples out? Is she aroused by the xenochad?
>>214269602submarines of today are filled to the brim with food to the point where every couch backrest is just filled with random food items, so the nostromo might follow a similar logicstill, i don't fault people for thinking the xenomorphs don't eat. for all we know, they don't. we never see them eat nor do they leave piles of shit from the humongous amounts of food they would require in order to grow, let alone survive. not that i blame them for that one, we don't need to know every detail. but they could mention it in some movie to clear up the confusion and stop people from thinking xenomorphs breathe space magic to survive.
>>214270030>eats toast butties
I need Kirsh to do somethingAnything
>>214270318Xenomorphs are vegan.
>>214270318>nor do they leave piles of shit from the humongous amounts of food they would require in order to grow,Thats what acid is for
>>214269755>>214269725Directors don't understand how to properly frame or light their movie monsters anymore perhaps it's because of the whole CGI thing that new directors fail at this.
>>214270318>We never see them eatAvP:R shows one snacking on the bully
i feel like they cast a lot of ugly actors for this show. not even hollywood ugly but just plain unattractive. coupled with the ESL it must be a deliberate casting choice
>>214270594Just like us :)
>>214270714It's so we can self-insert more easily
>>214267229In Ridley's defense a good chunk of the good stuff in Alien was there because he bitched and moaned until it got included
>>214270714The original alien starred relatable space truckers instead of models. This means you can’t complain when the new people are all offensively ugly. Showrunner gets to disregard canon, though; stop gatekeeping. :^)It’s the same shit as “this character was voiced by a black guy once in 1989 so they’re canonically black and you can never change it but we’ve re-imagined™ the redhead”
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>>214270028The thing is highly intelligent but also very careful about what it doesIt doesnt attack before being found or attacked, since even if it took out a human thatd be an instant "get set in flames" moment it sure as fuck wont gamble on running around outside without being ice cubed againGiven its goals it had two optimal paths, bidding its time until enough had been assimilated to have a majority or make a spaceship and fuck off, which is what it did
>>214270266If you know where it was dumped and the trajectory and speed, you can find it.
>>214267272I liked it.
>>214265063This is my impression exactly. Don't get me wrong. I think this show is the second best thing to come out of the IP outside of Ridley's contributions, but his decision to ignore Prometheus and Covenant rubs me the wrong way and makes me think he doesn't understand the philosophy behind the thing. He's just doing the standard hero/villain good/evil thing...He doesn't understand Boy Kaveliar except for as some kind of shallow evil villain ala. Darth Vader (in the original trilogy), or Voldemort, or Sauron.David is not a shallow evil villain like that. It's a competition between master and slave, father and son.
>>214271146sure just solve the n-body problem
>>214269725its head looks like a penis, anyone never noticed that?
>>214271406no, no one has ever mentioned that
