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Dukatmaxing Edition

Previously on /trek/: >>214509538
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star trek sex with shran
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Imagine the feeling.
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Great op
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If the different versions of the ships were different versions of /trek/ threads, what would his be like?
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>>214533993
Cardassians should have tails and forked tongues but a TV budget can only go so far.
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Who would you most like to see in a bikini on Trek anons?
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>>214534108
nutrek.
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>>214534108
that's the ship in our timeline
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>>214534108
>Timeline where we all eagerly await the next TV show installment and news announcement
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>>214534024
I don't have to imagine it. All of my closest friends were dead or in jail by the time I was 25.
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>>214533993
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How big are Siskos boobs?
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>there's a whole prequel to Undiscovered Country with a bunch of David Warner etc live action scenes
>it's for some game I've never even heard of called Klingon Academy
>details a whole Klingon Civil War
What the fuck, how has nobody ever posted about this in here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU3Fqr7BjSo&
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Which actor got the fattest over the filming of Star Trek?
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>>214534345
Punished Future Kim, the incel without a holodeck
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>>214534317
Then you haven't been here long. I've posted this shit several times. Even features a younger version of this character. Supposedly some of the ideas in the game were recycled from the cancelled Sulu show.
>>214534348
James Doohan followed by Shatner as we're only counting Trek shows.
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pon farr with dr selar
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>>214534442
That seems dangerous. She seems the type to pegg!
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>>214534456
please keep your impure and homosexual thoughts to yourself
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>>214534466
To call pegging a homosexual practice is factually incorrect.
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>it's a Porthos episode
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>>214534563
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>>214534589
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i love Porthos
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>>214534626
>I crave the forbidden cheese father
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>>214534547
Short haired Vulcan women who look at you judgmentally are the best. They should put one in every Star Trek show. That would save the franchise.
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>>214534842
>We were robbed of a S5 Porthos cheese episode
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>>214534894
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>>214534626
>feeds his dog cheese knowing it will give him diarrhea shits
>lets dog run around the ship unsupervised
>crewmen have to clean up random sprays of dogshit on surfaces every day
Why is Archer such a bastard?
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>>214534547
it's the gayest thing you can do in a straight setting
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>>214534985
CAPTAIN'S PREROGATIVE
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i've been reading the DS9 Companion book as we do the watchalong but I just opened it randomly to the Meridian section and I couldn't help but take a peek. it starts off by saying how much everyone who worked on that show hated it and they hate hearing it brought up. fucking kekkkk
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>>214535188
people will criticize star trek aliens for being a bunch of people with rubber foreheads, but nobody's been able to replicate the quality of prosthetic makeup since, not even trek
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>>214535282
yeah there's not really any Michael Westmores anymore.
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>>214534904
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>>214535282
>>214535313
there are still plenty of people who can do it. they only work on low budget stuff like commericials and tv one-offs. they use cgi for any major and recurring characters because actors are pussies and productions are all rushed
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>>214534348
I call S1 of TNG the skeleton crew season since everyone is so skinny. They were really choosing between food and rent the whole year.
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>>214535395
>20k+ for a dog with a hole in its head
soul
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>>214535547
Not the best of edits but still kek
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>>214533993
Does anybody else have trouble taking Cardassian warships very seriously in DS9? They always felt like a paper tiger.

Literally the first time we see them, the Phoenix is going on a one ship tear against them. It easily destroys a Cardassian warship despite having the Cardassians having the prefix code to lower it's shields.

When the Galor class attacked the Enterprise, it was firing all its weapons and barely putting a dent in the Galaxy class's shields. Picard calmly tried hailing them a few times while they fired in vain, then said "Number One, I believe we have been exemplary in our patience." Boom, the Enterprise fired one (maybe two, don't remember) shot and disabled their engines.

The Kingons invaded Cardassian space and nearly overwhelmed the entire thing, to the point that the government was evacuated from Cardassia prime. This happened near instantaneously. Yes it was a surprise attack, but it was also only about 1/3rd of their military, and they got in far enough that Cardassia prime was threatened and their military didn't think they could defend it.
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>>214535574
Cardassia is MEANT to come across as a blustering second rate power that has been outpaced by the Federation.
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>>214535574
>the Phoenix is going on a one ship tear against them. It easily destroys a Cardassian warship despite having the Cardassians having the prefix code to lower it's shields.
TBF, the nebula class is basically a Galaxy with the extraneous science shit stripped out (so starfleet's top of the line ship), vs a bunch of what are essentially space t-34s and cargo ships
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>>214535470
sure there are people who can just make high quality prosthetics but Michael Westmore actually had to come up with original ideas week after week and within the limitations of TV budget and production. and you can see now with nutrek how if you change his designs even slightly it looks fucked up and retarded like with their versions of Klingons and Ferengi. anyway I suggest the TV show Face/Off if you're interested in that sort of thing.
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>>214534345
Pretty decent lineup for tonight. 2 Kinos, 2 mids, and 1 bad (The Last Outpost).
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>>214535574
Youre not meant to? Cardassians aren't a serious power in the galaxy, they're only at powerful as they are now because their only major neighbor in the sector was Bajorans, ultra pacifists

There's a reason they sucked up to the Dominion for power
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>>214535574
Cardassia is analogous to russia in that nobody wants an open-scale conflict with them, but all their equipment is trash
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>>214534626
If he has an accident, can't they just beam it out into space?
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>>214535626
last outpost is kino wrapped in cringe, or cringe wrapped in kino
the TOS episode might be the worst of the bunch desu
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Anyone find it interesting that Porthos was mostly played by a girl and that she has signed more autographs than the nutrek actors?
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>>214535705
that's adorable
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>>214535682
>the TOS episode might be the worst of the bunch desu
>The Enemy Within
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>>214535705
>Bruzy
dude I cannot read cursive to save my life and at this point I'm convinced signatures aren't meant to even be legible letters anymore, they're meant to be like a barcode unique to you
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>>214535699
Fucking Kek! When did this happen? That dude looks old as Fuck and he is a manlet compared to Riker.
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>>214535682
>he doesn't mark out for I'M CAPTAIN KIRK
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>>214535574
Cardassians seemed to start out weak and then they scaled them up in power levels. Some of the stuff said they stole technology from rival powers like the Feds and even Romulans which is why the Cardassians have access to things like plasma torpedoes. Still it is indeed inconsistent with what was shown earlier.

Cardassia by the way is only 5 light years away from Bajor, that's basically next door in terms of distance so if the Cardassians were able to stop the Klingon advance then that's pretty damn good going when their homeworld is practically the frontline in any war.
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>>214535736
it's Breezy
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>>214535740
Read filename and also same thing is recycled in VOY for in S1E7
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>>214534701
> Short haired Vulcan women who look at you judgmentally are the best
This is what people mean when they say they want an autistic girlfriend. Not a femcel who never showers, doesn’t wear makeup or style her hair, and only leaves the house when necessary.
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>>214535574
>They always felt like a paper tiger.
Indeed, they are a paper tiger with feet of clay who is waiting for the other shoe to drop.
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>>214535699
>If Hector Salamanca never got involved with they cartels
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this guy is a live action Calculon
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>>214534701
My man!
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>>214535754
Bro they only stopped them because The Dominion intervened.
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need a vulcan wife that can snap me in two
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>>214535822
The Dominion had too many cooks counting all their Jem'Hadar before they were hatched keeping all their clones in one basket when a Quadrant in the hand is worth two the other side of the Wormhole.
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>>214535912
The VA is kind of hot too desu.
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>>214535953
I just imagined a Vorta saying this to a Founder and then being sent to the meat grinder because she's clearly defective.
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>>214536014
She's aight but nothing compared to the absolute unit on the left.
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>>214536098
it's like a buddy cop movie
Downy & Tightwad
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>>214536239
I'm really confused by the firing pattern. The first two beams are fired with slightly upward trajectory, the 3rd beam is fired with a downward trajectory, and then the 4th beam is is either horizonal or very slightly upward and hits the lowest ship destroying it.

Who the hell were they firing that 3rd beam at?
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>>214536278
>Who the hell were they firing that 3rd beam at?

They were signaling that they're going to recycle this shot several more times and they ain't paying to redo the VFX each time!
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The EMH's are hilarious together. The whole "message in a battle" episode is really enjoyable. 7 of 9 being autistic, Belana not knowing how to deal with 'tism, the whole shibang.
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>>214536278
In this scene they were given the order to fire at will, the first two miss, the second two both hit and destroy the same ship, around the bottom then the center of their shields. If they redirected their shieds to where the first shot hit, the second shot straight into their center line with weakened shielding would have been accidentally catastrophic. Whoever fired the first shot is definitely getting assigned extra firing drills on the holodeck, though.
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>>214536432
>insert shot of Excelsior-class ship breaking away from Ent-D for the seventh time this season
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I have started to treat my job and other tasks I have to do as though I were on the Enterprise and they were my duties there. My life has improved as a result. Anyone else do this?
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>>214535188
You know what's worse than Meridian? Meridian apologizers. I know, I know, doesn't seem possible, but they exist, I've seen it with my own two eyes.
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>>214536674
I just got a WFH call center job. That makes me communications chief.
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>>214536695
probably Dax simps and coomers. disgusting.
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>>214536645
>Whoever fired the first shot is definitely getting assigned extra firing drills on the holodeck, though.
Kek it was Riker as he was manning tactical in Yar's place since she went with the Enterprise-C
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>>214536674
stale pasta
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Dukat really was a good and just leader. It was the filthy Bajorans and their senseless hate all along that was always the problem:
https://youtu.be/R2HY50xw3WU?t=28

Finding out the truth in this episode was the most mindblowing twist in DS9, and made the destruction of Cardassia Prime and victory of the Federation and Bajor such a tragic ending to series.

How could Sisko not see that he how unjustly maligned Dukat had been, and why didn't he swtich sides and convince the Federation to side with Cardassia. Never made any sense to me if they're supposed to be the good guys.
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>>214536471
Yeah, shame about Andy Dick.
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>>214536716
Do you say "open hailing frequencies" and "on screen"? I would.
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The charges, Officer?
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>>214537223
in the interest of time we have decided to forgo the trial and proceed with exection of the sentence
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>>214537116
the truth that blew my mind in this episode is finding out that Dukat actually subconsciously knows how incredibly insecure and delusional he is and has avatars of the people whose opinions he values most telling him so in the back of his mind all the time. it actually sane washed him a little bit. a true crazy narcissist wouldn't acknowledge let alone be able to identify their own faults.
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>>214537116
Sarcasm aside, I can't help but think dukat makes a decent argument in the first three minutes. The occupation was well underway and wasn't going well, and if it wasn't him, the central command would just send in someone worse. Maybe he is coping, but at this point he has no reason to pretend. Sisko just keeps baiting him and baiting him over and over until he snaps.
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>>214537149
What comedian would you replace Andy Dick with?
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>>214537377
star fleet are all bleeding hearts and would say you had a moral imperative to internally dismantle the occupation
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>>214537116
>occupation had been going on for almost 40 years
>death toll of 5 million for the whole occupation
>so that's 1 million every 8 years
>125,000 deaths per year
>death toll decreased by 20%
>100,000 deaths per year
>only around 274 deaths per day, planet wide
Assuming my math is right, maybe he was on to something
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>>214537569
no they just say not being AS cruel as he could have possibly been doesn't fucking matter to anyone but him. a file clerk felt more guilt about the occupation that he did.
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>>214537619
guilt and a sack is worth the sack
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>>214535612
>cargo ships
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>>214537377
I mean to win the argument Duck Hat just has to point out that more people die choking on hasperat or in tachyon highway collisions each year than did during the entire occupation of Bajor.
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>>214537631
he had more than guilt he had a whole elaborate plan to force Cardassia to face accountability that was foiled but sure okay
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>>214537498
martin short
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>>214536695
>>214536718
Never. I just think the B plot is funny.
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>>214537498
Nobody, Andy was great. I meant it's a shame about how he's doing now. He's as bad as Jennifer Lien.
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>>214534024
What episodes are these pictures from anyway?
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>>214537498
Justin Roiland
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>>214534433
I thought James Doohan didn't gain weight until the movies though.
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>be dukat
>end the occupation
>bajorans dont even say thank you
he really should have killed them all
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The deflector on the enterprise nx-01 looks so fucking retarded. What were they thinking when they did that?
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>>214538125
>What were they thinking when they did that?
"Let us consciously disregard the opinion of some autist 25 years from now. Muahahaha!"
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>>214537668
>>214537956
They still don't have a statue of him
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>>214538175
Not an answer.
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>>214537678
it was never going to work, I think you missed the point of the episode
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Hey Trek did you know Eddington from deep space 9 was played by the actor that played the protagonist in Krull? He merely shaved. Also garak is played by the bad guy from Dirty Harry but everyone knows that
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>Dukat's statue, whatever happened there?
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>>214538392
for me Garak is Larry from Hellraiser
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>>214537668
My grandpa is a Cardassian occupation denier. I have no idea why. We live on Earth, have no connection to Bajor, and he isn't really a conspiracy kind of guy in general. He has never been to Bajor or met a Bajoran yet he has pages of documents 'proving the hoax', such as a full script for the movie The Occupation of Bajor with a bunch of random letters from the words highlighted showing 'the secret messages' from the director. He says that Gul Dukat wasn't really in charge and that 'every picture of Bajoran resistance is clearly staged' and has huge printouts of grainy photos of Cardassia to prove it. Not sure what he has against Bajor, but if you bring it up to him he calls you a 'Bajoran liar.'
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>>214538392
I get the feeling eddington was supposed to be one of those beloved ham characters like the andorran played by Jeffery Combs but the performance and writing sucked
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>>214538563
people do love Eddington and claim he did nothing wrong all the time
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>True love is the greatest thing in the galaxy - except for an BLT, where the bacon is nice and lean and the tomatoes are ripe and not replicated. Theyre so perky. I love that
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>>214538125
Putting the deflector at the front of the ship makes way more sense than what we see with all the other Federation ships.
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>>214538770
>It's over Sisko, I have the hair ground!
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>>214537615
Bajoran genocide denial is illegal on over 100 Federation aligned planets, Anon. Including Earth. Please cease and desist immediately.
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>>214538563
iirc he was originally supposed to be that black officer that was sisko's old friend who defected, that's why he gets so bent out of shape about "betraying the uniform"
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>>214538823
I think he means the shape, where it's clearly an incredibly squished oval that was done so in a cgi modeling program, instead of a circular dish
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>>214539131
its experimental
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>>214539146
pretty sure other archer-era starfleet ships had the same stupid dish
also that makes no sense that they'd give an experimental ship a worse deflector dish
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>>214538563
It's mostly just the the Maquis had no follow-through and was a failed plot on two different shows because they didn't write enough and no one gave a shit. No one ever actually cared if the Federation stepped on a few little people for the greater good so the only choice was to write a bunch of evil federation plot and the show was still too Roddenberry for that.
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>>214535473
I think DS9 avoided that fate. Everyone stays slim. Especially Kira and Dax.

But Voyager had the Trek Gain problem too. The actors for Tom Paris and Harry Kim put on weight in the later seasons. The producers even had to step in tell them to drop weight.

In an interview, the actors said they both raided the catering food table for food between takes. They said Star Trek had the best catering tables on the entire Paramount lot and they couldn't help themselves.


Enterprise...I think they all stayed slim. But Trip and Malcom's actors got really big after the show ended. If you watch their Trek Podcasts on YouTube, they are big fellas now.
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>>214535935
>Bro they only stopped them because The Dominion intervened.
No rewatch DS9 and those earlier pre-dominion war episodes. The Cardassians were able to (barely) stop the Klingons from reaching Cardassia Prime. But the Klingons took a huge chunk of Cardassian Space and the outer Colonies.

Dukat stole a Klingon warbird that had all the Klingon communication codes and Battle plans. He tried to rally the Cardassian Council and military to launch a counterattack and push the Klingons out. But the Council and Military were so demoralized that they said no. They wanted to negotiate a peace treaty with the Klingons and give up territory.

Dukat got super pissed and angry at his people being cowards. So he secretly went to the Dominion to negotiate the Cadarssian Empire joining the Dominion in exchange for Dominion military assistance.
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>>214535945
Oh snap. Did the original artist make more pictures?
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>>214539632
Was Dukat in the wrong for doing this?
>no more Kliggers stealing your space
>no more faggot Maquis hiding out
The Dominion saved Cardassians.
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>Was Dukat in the wrong for doing this?
are you dumb?
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>>214539765
also, The Dominion killed more Cardassians than anyone. and civvies at that lmao
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>>214534120
T'pol and 7of9 in thongs while Captain Sisqo sings the thong song
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You're buying the new Lego set, right /trek/?
I am.
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>>214540507
There is no way that is official. That Fucking looks like Shit!
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cringe or based?
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>>214540666
It's real.
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>>214540715
i'd like to hear the argument for how he's cringe
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>>214540726
Is this an actual leaked pic or is this just some shitty fan made version? The official Lego site only has a teaser with a Picard minifig.
https://www.lego.com/en-us/themes/star-trek/about
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>>214540666
that'll be $850 plus tip
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>>214540507
>>214540726
Why not spend the cash on a model of higher quality and not deliberately overpriced? Unless of course you plan on making the millennium falcon out of it, which you can do with any lego set.
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But was anyone trans in 1972?
https://vocaroo.com/1Q0mP6vJPUvm
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>>214540507
>>214540726
Why is nuLego obsessed with not looking like Lego?
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>>214541160
patent on lego expired
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I just finished Enterprise for the first time and now I'm empty because I have nothing left to watch
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>>214540726
>>214540507
Looks ugly as fuck, those square angles don't work with Starfleet ships. It works on Star Wars because all the ships are cobbled together shitheaps that barely function, this looks like the Zimbabwean helicopter version of the Ent-D. Cargo cult shit.
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>>214541505
you can now watch babylon 5 and stargate
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>>214535912
>*dude wants to see a women
>I got you my guy, check out this cartoon
why are pdf files like this?
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>>214541505
Did you watch Strange New Worlds yet? It's better than Enterprise desu.
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>>214540808
respects bajorans
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>>214541144
Trannies always existed but they kept to themselves and didn't force everyone else to play with their deulsions. HRT for gender transition is a relatively new thing and there aren't longterm studies on its effects on the body and mind.
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>>214541842
that's what happens when you get your shit pushed in by one
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>>214541915
We already know that trooning out on estrogen pills causes them to shoot up schools and shopping malls
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>>214541603
you're not on twitter retard
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>>214541624
I did, and it was putrid shit
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>>214537619
The file clerk that Kira forgave because he was only one man and couldn't do anything about it? The file clerk that hid under the bed and didn't even try?

Dukat did way more about a situation he was born into than that whimpering little shit. What is are his tears going to do after the fact?

Dukat tried to take a bad situation and make it better, but those fucking filthy violent Bajoran scum just kept rejecting his attempts and making it worse. He has nothing to feel guilty about how things turned out. He was just doing what he had to do, and went out of his way to do more to prevent unnecessary deaths.

He's basically Oskar Schindler, except if the Jews kept trying to kill him and called him Hitler after the war ended, blaming him for everything.
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>>214541505
animated series is worth a watch
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>>214541925
I do the Kirk bodyslam before the double fist and counter any attack with aikido, which actually works in the star trek universe
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>>214541950
That and all the SSRIs and Benzos their shrinks pump them full of for "social anxiety".
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Did ds9 ruin star trek by making it grim dark?
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>>214542111
DS9 is the funniest show. why do people try to force this "grim dark" bullshit?
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>>214542111
DS9 is rated TV-PG. It's tame as fuck. It didn't get grimdark until P+ forced their shows to be TV-MA for prestige credit.
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wasted trips undeserving of a reply
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Starting Star Trek Beyond on my timeline watchthrough. I'm expecting about a 6/10 movie from what I remember. Why is every newer Star Trek movie a revenge story? Is it Wrath of Kahns fault? After this I'm forced by my own ambitious past self to watch Picard and then the last 3 seasons of Discovery. 60 episodes of hell.
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>>214541975
>I did, and it was putrid shit
Why are you doing this? Fucking why are you doing this!? Just because some chick you like won't Fuck you this how you are going to act, this is the level of attitude you are going to project? Go touch grass MotherFucker, and by grass I mean pussy hair.
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>>214542260
it was hilarious finding out the only reason geordi didnt keep the beard is because producers refused to let him keep it
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>>214539765
Dukat's only mistake was launching an attack on the Federation so soon.

He should have waited, built up a bigger military, and let the Founders smear the Federation for using cloaked mines.

Which apparently violates a ton of treaties about mines and cloaks. Let the Dominion turn everyone against the Federation and pressure them to remove the mines.

Maybe Dukat could have convinced the Romulans to attack the Federation along with the Dominion.
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How do I get into TOS? Will LSD help?
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>>214542260
Can someone explain this?
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>>214542414
You have to be straight and white to truly enjoy TOS. Sorry not sorry.
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Why does Riker look like he ages 10 years between season 1 and 2
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>>214542418
One can only speculate on the intent but it is my belief that the creator of the image intended to convey that Geordi preferred Sisko’s choice of facial hair and hair style more as time progressed in the series Star Trek, Deep Space Nine, and I concur
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>>214533993
Wesley Crusher is relentlessly handsome.
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>>214542273
why do you keep replying to people like this grok? why do you keep capitalizing epithets? why do you project your inceldom onto other people? why are you shilling a bad tv show? why are you so bad at english benchode bastard blood bitch mother bloody fuck you sir?
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>>214542255
JJ Abrams has a fetish for watching people get blown out into space.
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>>214542568
idk if you noticed but he grew a beard
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>>214542621
besides the beard obviously

his eyes in particular look 20 years older
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>>214542621
that's what you do when you get fucking fat to tried to hide it
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>>214542621
I remember in high school the first guy who could grow a beard was like the king: he could buy beer and slayed pussy. Fast forward a couple decades and he now works at a grocery store and has more hair on his back than his head, but I assume it was fun for him while it lasted
t. beardlet
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>ywn get beamed onto a klingon ship with a fight club DVD and have them all think you're based after starting an actual fight club
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>>214542749
if klingons watched fight club theyd wonder why that pussy didnt wanna keep being tyler durden
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>>214542669
>eyes
idiot homo
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>>214542401
the more you think about ds9 the more it sucks. replicating mines are horseshit. even if they worked it wouldnt prevent the dominion from blowing them all up at once or just spamming jem'hadar from delta. some % would get through and thats all the edge the dominion needed
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>>214542823
the dominion doesnt have infinite resources
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>>214542619
Jesus Christ they just did this changing gravity ship falling toward the planet bullshit at the end of Into Darkness. I hate Abrams.
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>>214542847
except they literally do. even stranded in alpha they were easily outproducing the feds.
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>>214537810
Second one is The Menagerie I think
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>>214542823
and another thing. why the hell would the wormhole aliens get involved only once to stop the dominion? really no need for the mines at all, the wormhole aliens could just keep the dominion in delta until their rape baby was ready to come home.
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>>214542401
His ambition outweighed his patriotism, just like his father.
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>>214542877
If you really want to think about it as claimed xenophobes the dominion should’ve just blockaded the wormhole on their end and destroyed any ships that came through instead of engaging in an offensive war where they don’t control the choke point, but then there’d be no war arc and no Weyoun, just a bunch of feddies ablooing about how they can’t go explore and colonize someone else’s claimed space
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>>214542871
the shame of it is that its star trek. would be fine if it was the orville motion picture or even galaxy quest 2. its just not star trek
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Frankly the Dominion told the federation when they destroyed that ship in the Delta quadrant, "STOP COMING THROUGH THE WORMHOLE." And yet if you pay attention the Federation just cannot stop having little missions in the Delta quadrant after that. They were absolutely in the wrong. Or at the least they were totally foolish. And who paid the price? Not even Earth. It was Cardassia who got ravaged. If they really wanted to make an interesting TNG film it should've been about Garak seeking revenge against the Federation. At least we would understand where he was coming from and it wouldn't be some fucking new villain. Imagine scenes between him and Picard.
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>>214542943
i agree but i am willing to accept the premise that the founders are so paranoid they will do whatever it takes to destroy any perceived threat.
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>>214542965
It's really not Star Trek. McCoy is the only redeeming character.
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>>214543017
>It was Cardassia who got ravaged.
it was a Cardassian who invited them in to assrape the entire Alpha quadrant (except Cardassia we promise) in the first place. what kind of mental retard shit on you on blaming the Federation for what happened to Cardassia?
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Gues char
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>>214543017
Unfortunately the writing doesn’t bear close scrutiny. The Feds were absolute in the wrong and the Dominion behaved inconsistently with their characterization as isolationists, but we got what we got and it was ok
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>>214542871
Okay fine I'll give this movie a little gold star. Spock saying "horse shit" was funny.
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>>214543061
Data’s daughter
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>>214543058
It was the Federation who got explicitly warned "stay away" and they ignored that warning. Everything the Dominion did was to protect themselves from an invading power.
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>>214543053
thats my point. strip all the star trek trademarks and its a fine scifi action movie series
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>>214542943
The writers for DS9 said they were seriously considering letting the Dominion win and crush the Federation Alliance. And maybe doing a Resistance story where Freedom fighters fight Dominion rule in a new series.

But they were later "instructed" (ordered) by those above them, probably the Paramount Executives, that the writers absolutely could NOT do that. The were told that the Federation must not lose. So the writers had to back pedal hard, and come up with ridiculous plot holes and deux ex machina to make the Dominion suddenly lose. Like the Prophets interfering and erasing the Dominion fleet in the wormhole. Or the virus affecting the Founders. And stuff like the Romulans joining to war.

The Federation literally had plot armor given to them by writers.
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>>214543098
I agree it was ok. Now I'm just imagining Star Trek Nemesis with a post-war Cardassian plot and it would have been pretty kino.
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>>214543098
When you think more and more about it, the Federation tends to be in the wrong more often than not. They're hyper expansionist trying to control the galaxy via root beer and baseball. Just look what happened to the Ferengi and Cardassians who got in their way!
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>>214543170
Ehhhh the first 2 were really annoying and stupid to me and I just watched them. They weren't just bad Star Trek they were genuinely annoying movies. ST Beyond is so far slightly more tolerable.
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>>214543212
The Federation claims to respect other cultures but they just. Kept. Going. Into the Gamma quadrant despite being thoroughly warned against it. I watched the whole series recently and couldn't help but notice how often they kept going there after the Dominion said "stay out." It's why I personally rate Voyager higher. Starfleet just doesn't act like Starfleet in DS9
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what different factions does the star trek community consist of? And what sets them apart?
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>>214543304
The Dominion doesn't own the entire fucking quadrant ffs
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>>214543212
The federation is analogous to the space mormons in Starship Troopers, setting up shop, knocking on doors and proselytizing where they’re obviously not welcome then being confused by the reception they receive. I’m curious what happened to the Orion Slave Empire between TOS and TNG
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>>214543357
If you own the door you get to say who comes through. Don’t be stupid.
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>>214543357
Regardless, it was foolish of the Federation to continue entering what they considered to be their space, (i.e. the space near the wormhole). They basically got extremely lucky to win the war at all.
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>>214543357
>The Dominion doesn't own the entire fucking quadrant ffs
They own the space around the wormhole. They said so in later seasons. The Dominion set up defenses around the wormhole and claimed the area with their fleets.

But the Treaty at the end of show forced the Dominion to remove their fleets and defenses from Gamma side of the wormhole to allow "free passage" for the Federation.
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>>214543409
they didnt really win the war. everything we know about the founders tells us they would overthrow odo and return to their old ways as soon as they got the cure.
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Future swearing is weird. It's ok to say hell and damn but not piss and shit?
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We get to see this Kino tonight!



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