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Curse of the Thread Maker Edition

Previously on /trek/: >>214891673
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star trek sex with shran
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>>214901044
Just the idea that on the other side of the galaxy there are all of these happy solid societies enjoying their freedom sent them into paranoid schizophrenia, they had to put a stop to it
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The Bajoran occupation was a hoax!
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Post star trek bely
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sisko abandoned his pregnant wife
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dukats only mistake was not killing them all
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no seriously guys the species that enslaved 2 other races and genetically programmed them to unquestioningly due their bidding as servants to Gods and subjugated or destroyed every other planet in their quadrant in the most cruel and sadistic ways possible dindu nuffin and all the want is to pwotect demsevles fwom da EBIL Federation dey such good lil goo boys who dindu nuffin
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emh should have deleted himself for being full of nazi research.
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>>214901307
No child support in the worm hole
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>>214901270
>they stole worf's chair
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Whenever I watch episodes where they have to disguise themselves as the alien race they're visiting; I always think that it's funny that they manage to have perfectly undetectable disguises. But then I think, oh, yeah, of course they look exactly like that race... they have the same makeup people.
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>>214901549
it was cute how Dukat found it so absolutely hilarious and wanted a souvenir photo
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>there is no possible way i could ever fit in on bajor
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>>214901667
for having basically grown up in slave mine she sure is pretty fragile and naive. i guess that's part of her appeal to some people. it feels like character ended up taking a turn after her
>I don't give a fuck about anything
speech to Garak.
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SNW season 2 is actually such ass. Season 1 was pretty good, i dont know what the fuck happened to the story writers in season 2
Had to sit through an episode of a musical yesterday and I just wanted to blow my head off through the entire thing
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As part of Paramount's year long Star Trek 60 celebration, Parry will have a float in this year's Pasadena Rose Parade.

The float will carry various cast members from the universe of Star Trek shows. So if you're in the crowd, wave to Tawny as she passes by and give her a big 'Lower Decks! Lower Decks!" cheer.
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>>214901864
Nigga i aint american and thank god for that
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>>214901391
You only see the chair after that episode so it means Worf stole the chair from them. Should have been kicked out of Starfleet desu.
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>>214901364
No one is defending (((changelings))) they're just explaining what makes them the way they are
They can't tolerate when solids are free and not being suppressed
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>>214901864
Why would anyone care about a third rate adult animated sitcom that came and went?
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>>214901864
>Space for everybody
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>>214901864
>Space For Everybody
Earth, Hitler, 1938.
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Still working out the kinks on making the 3rd verse duet work, but the Dukat rock opera continues. Very early draft.
https://vocaroo.com/1lzcKUJt0tpr
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>Kruge had a Chineese Crestan
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>>214902281
Delete this
>Israel is nothing like Nazi Germany. It’s not a concentration camp if it’s a whole city. It’s not an ethnostate it’s a secular state that only accepts people of a certain religion. Meow meow meow meow
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>>214902319
>https://vocaroo.com/1lzcKUJt0tpr
the music is good, too bad for the lyrics and voices
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>>214902691
oblivion janeway is my least favorite janeway
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>>214902156
i agree with you but there's a guy here that continually insists that they were only ever interested in "self defense" and it's entirely the Federation's fault for the invasion for not immediately heeding their demands to leave the quadrant and never use the wormhole again.
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who wrote this plot seriously, the Romulan invasion of VULCAN??? Just Vulcan?? Romulans are going to go to war against the Federation for this retard shit?
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>>214902729
no one says the dominion war was entirely the federations fault. the bajorans share a lot of the blame
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>>214902782
WARP ONE!!! THEY ARE CROSSING THE NEUTRAL ZONE AT WARP ONE!! WHO WROTE THIS
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>>214902691
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>>214902782
Vulcan is easily the second most important planet in the Federation and if they were able to mount a surprise invasion and occupy it it'd be a good start to a gigantic fucking war - the problem is how the hell would they be prepared for such an all out war for the federation at a moment's notice without the federation knowing it.
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>>214902782
why would they go to war? the vulcans also want reunification. romulans just want to dictate the terms.
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>>214902782
The same writers who brought Tasha back as her own daughter but as a Romulan. Don’t worry about it
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>>214902729
The Federation were asked to leave and refused, of course. Respecting the territory of other is fundamental to the Federation. Same with Insaneway ignoring aliens and crossing their space without permission, it's completely wrong and they deserve all the consequences. If you kick a hornets nest don't be surprised when people call you a fucking retard.
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>>214902845
vulcan is not important. they only do local science shit and diplomacy. earth and territe does all the heavy lifting
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>>214902898
Unless of course it’s the gamma quadrant. Dominion shits can get fucked
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>>214902782
>>214902812
>>214902845
>>214902862
>>214902876
THE WHOLE INVASION FORCE WAS TWO FUCKING THOUSAND STRONG

WHOOOOOOO WROTE THISSSSSS!!!!!!
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I meant delta quadrant, I’m bad at math
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>>214902898
>let us have full control of the wormhole that lets us travel in to your side of the galaxy or we kill you all in self defense
protean, amorphous tendrils typed this post
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>>214902943
Same writers who wrote a two parter where the baddie is a nutty Vulcan isolationist that doesn’t tie into the other plot in any way and is never mentioned again. Don’t worry about it
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if one was interested in defending their side of the wormhole from a potential threat you would think they would do deterrent and defensive measures like say, mining the entrance to it on their side. you know the thing the Dominion famously did to protect themselves from the Federation invaders. oh wait.
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>>214902915
vulcan has a near total monopoly on the production of autistic vulcan gfs, it would be a disaster for all the human men out there.
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>>214903085
the curious task of the mallwalker is to defend the retardation of ds9 without citing examples of how ds9 is retarded
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I want to pon her farr if you know what I mean
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>>214902701
its an iterative process - literally the first draft. The music is the more important part because you can generate the vocals and layer them on in audacity (or other program of choice). Since the AI doesnt handle ensemble work easily you can just chunk it into a series of duets and splice it. the lyrics are filler although i do want to keep a FREIGHTER line.
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>>214903245
she's dead
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>>214903240
this post makes no sense
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>>214903394
He’s not a mallwalker, he’s clearly deranged, leave him to his madness
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>>214903897
>4 nacelles
Who writes this shit?
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>>214901910
As a Klingon he had pillaging rights as a part of his cultural heritage. It's how they keep his Klingon rage in control.
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>>214903948
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>>214904114
Holy shit, imagine the speed
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>>214902691
>Detained

I like how watching this episode I thought wow, this is a pretty on the nose allegory for Japanese interment in WW2, and then Archer straight up compares it to WW2 internment.

>>214902898
What right does the dominion have to claim the entire Gamma quadrant?
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>>214904164
>what right do you have to your home simply because you own the door? The nerve
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>>214904114
whole crew would devolve into frogs or worse....
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>>214904164
What's with ENT and all the "Archer gets imprisoned and beat up" episodes, they must have had 5 or 6
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>>214904556
he has like nothing going for him as a character or a captain that you could write stories around so I guess they just resort to having him get captured so he has an excuse to be involved in the episode? I dunno.
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>>214904164
>Detained
green Keevan is in that episode
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>>214904744
He also played a random Andorian in ENT.
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>>214904806
that's correct and his character was actually named Telev
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>>214904164
>What right does the dominion have to claim the entire Gamma quadrant?
What right does the Federation have to trespass on someone else's territory when they have explicity been told to GTFO? You can't just say "nuh-uh I don't believe you" and start shitting in their backyard. The Sheliak, the Darmok at Baghdad dudes, Breen, Tholians, Gorn, and a ton of other Alpha quad races are super isolationist AND the Federation respects them and keeps their distance unless specifically invited. Why do you think the Neutral Zone is such a big deal when nobody has claimed it?
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>>214904888
Th..the wormhole aliens said it’d be fine
>it came to me in a dream
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>>214904888
But the Dominion doesn't own the entire Gamma Quadrant. There are plenty of neutral systems just near the wormhole.
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>>214904556
just like kirk
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I wish I had a Bajoran Fried Seafood Orb
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>>214901159
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>>214905329
FOR COD-DASSIA
also, getting closer https://vocaroo.com/19ocL6HGAZNO
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>>214901307
one of the mistakes nutrek keeps making, and by extension that academy trailer that had an entire exhibit on "what happened to sisko", is that sisko was always meant to return. By continuing to state or imply that he never did, or that his fate is a mystery, only reinforces the 'black father abandons his family' stereotype that brooks explicitly wanted to avoid, by having behr change the script so that sisko would eventually return
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>>214901851
It only gets worse.
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>>214904114
There has to be diminishing returns at some point, surely? I thought multiple nacelles only increased the ship's range by making it more fuel efficient
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>>214906154
I think it makes it less efficient but faster
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>>214906389
>puts four engines in his car
>why is my mileage shit?
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What could they accomplish then that they cannot do now?
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>>214906806
Make Trek?
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>>214906806
Care.
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>>214906806
Sincerity and more even hotter women.
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>>214902782
>>214902943
And this invasion force was on just 4 warbirds. There should be enough starships near to Vulcan at any given time to repel 4 warbirds. Scifi writers are fucking terrible when it comes to scale.
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>>214907118
Vulcans are pacifists and all their ships are science vessels thobeit
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>>214907194
So? It's a core Federation world. Starfleet should at least have a number of orbital and planetary defenses (including starbases like Earth Spacedock) and various starships around, even if they're just traversing the area. I say again, scifi writers are fucking terrible at scale.
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>>214907372
You’re right, it’s better not think about and just enjoy the show
>Starfleet: powerhouse of the alpha quadrant
>there’s a borg cube incoming on sector 001
>that’s Earth! Muster the fleet
>it’s a dozen decrepit old turds with nacelles glued on
>good thing those borg were sleepy and needed a nap
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I'm starting to notice that any episode rated <7 on IMDB isn't worth watching.
Am I correct?
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>>214907500
I don't look at the IMDB ratings. Give me a few sub-7 episodes and I'll tell you.
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>>214907500
>looking up the imdb of individual episodes before watching them

schizo behavior
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>>214901270
>>214901391
>>214901910
>>214904061
IT'S NOT A CHAIR, IT'S A SEXUAL PLEASURE DEVICE
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>>214907876
It is a little weird considering he’s likely spending more time debating what to watch then actually watching, but whatever. Each episode is like 45 minutes, if you spend longer then that deciding whether or not to watch I’m not sure what to tell you
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>>214908061
Lol. Lmao even
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>>214907897
>It's not a shuttle! It's a runabout!
>Tosses you out of the runabout
Kinda crazy that Worf was just sitting his sex chair while his parents were talking to him. They really have no inhibitions in the future.
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>>214906806
Everything up to Enterprise was a network show. Network televsion has standard rules and typically very long seasons. Everything post-ENT (aka nutrek) is streaming slop. Streaming shows are usually 8 - 12 episodes long. Another reason why everyone agrees that nothing after ENT is canon
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>>214906806
what happened to season 1 VOY
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>>214908139
UPN was a clusterfuck and I think it was on the verge of being cancelled/not renewed
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>>214907118
>>214907372
are you forgetting that this invasion force was disguised as a peaceful reunification envoy? the whole plan was literally a trojan horse and relied on nobody realizing it. the second they were discovered, the romulans blew up their trojan horses to cover it up
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>>214908139
They produced 20 episodes but UPN wanted to hold off four of them (Projections, Elogium, Twisted, The 37's) to Season 2 for some reason
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>>214908061
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
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>>214908185
don't worry,
the eugenic wars will take care of these creatures
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>>214908267
We’ve talked about this Ricardo, I don’t care about your little warlord fantasies. You missed a corner of my lawn, andele!
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>>214908158
NTA but let's say the plan goes off without a hitch and 2000 Romulan commandos land on Vulcan.
... Then what? Do they cease the main government building and declare victory? Do they open a wormhole to Romulus to let all the romugreeks in? What exactly is the plan? Because even if we assume the vulcans would do literally nothing, not even nerve pinch their way out of this, they could go about everything as normal and just wait for their allies to show up and tell the romulans to scram. It's not like if the romulans would be able to hold the entire planet hostage, or do a sham election, or anything.
>Wow gee do you think that new election where the vulcans elected Lord Dingbutt The Romulan as their supreme godking was legitimate, fellow Federation Member?
>Well my pal Jimroy who lives on Vulcan said it was a hostile take-over of the state
>Do you think there's any truth to that?
>idk I send all calls from the Vulcan Emergency Broadcast directly to voicemail
As a vulcan on the goatfucking continent I could be fucking goats for a month and never even know I got conquered and liberated.
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>>214908407
>cease
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>>214908407
The plan was to eat soup. It’s good for you. Or else
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>>214908375
ah, good ole times
when we used beaners for Indians
and beat you faggots to a pulp like you so richly deserved
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>>214908407
I didn't say the invasion was a good idea or made sense with the numbers they had (2,000 is a comically small force, maybe there was a typo and they meant 20,000, or 200,000, or maybe they had to cut the number of ships down due to the vfx budget so they also cut the size of the invasion force), I was just correcting you in that it was meant to be a surprise attack
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vulcan is so kino
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>>214909031
nta, i'm the other anon, but my point was it doesn't matter if it's a surprise attack or not when it's 4 ships, 2,000 soldiers and a core federation world...hell, ANY world should be able to repell 2,000 soldiers.
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These True Way Cardassians don't stand a chance against my mighty meta beamship! I.S.S. Sulla, go!
Also
>there are people RPing at Quark's Bar
Bonus points for playing the Quark's advertisement the moment you get off the turbolift though.
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>>214908061
the self harm scar on the neck got an audible chuckle from me
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i feel like you can tell the ds9 dudes really enjoyed larping as klingons
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>>214908061
>No one cared who I was until I cut off my cock
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>>214901864
Pride flag exhaust coming out of the exhaustless nacelles, cringe saccharine "space for everybody" slogan. Fuck this shit.
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>>214909458
Yeah, I love the "everybody dresses up as a Klingon episode"

Avery Brooks would've been a great Martok
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>>214909031
If it was 200 000 I'd believe it, with 200 000 rifles you could threaten a serious consequence if someone tried to dislodge your occupation.
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>>214909641
It's sad that you've misinterpreted the core message of Star Trek so badly that you find the aspirations of Hope and Exploration somehow offensive and threatening.
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>>214901667
would
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>>214910485
>Exploration
Ick. Sounds like white colonialism mindset. Major cringe
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>>214908061
>Niggas really be like
>"THIS ISN'T MENTAL ILLNESS MOM!"
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>>214909318
what game is this?
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>>214909269
Hannibal's invasion of Rome had 50,000 troops.
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What's your favorite Klingon fit?
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>>214910720
Star Trek Online
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>>214909318
I see you Reyes.
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>>214910916
interesting. is it pay to win though?
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>>214901864
I remember wake up at something like 5:30am so early! :o as a kid to watch the rose parade with my family. Looking at this now just makes me depressed.
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>>214911171
Depends on your definition. You can manage for free and get T6 event ships and eventually grind everything out, but there's shortcuts for everything and there's a ton of lockbox-only ships, as well as zen store only ships like legendaries, however the yearly event gives you one choice of T6 lockbox ship, 2x zen store ship tokens, and 1500 lobi (also used to buy ships), i think you might have to buy out an expired event to finish it now, though, pretty late in the year.
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>>214911275
Ehh you kinda need to drop $5 for the EC cap increase.
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>>214911336
Oh, shit, yeah, it's been so long since I got lifetime i completely forgot.
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>>214908947
>butthurt that I dabbed on landscapers, but not Indians or Mexicans
Lol, you’re white and mow lawns for a living. Do better
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I am so tired of racism in fucking Star Trek threads of all places.
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>>214910947
My guy's name is Hashimoto and I left like two hours ago.
>>214911171
I play a lot of old MMOs that have gone f2p and honestly STO is probably the most fair of any of them.
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>>214911637
Where the fuck do you think you are?

Racism is fucking hilarious. When we're not being really racist, we're being Star Trek racist and talking about spoonheads and Bajorans and god knows what else.
I swear you are such a sensitive little bitch.
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>>214910856
Red leather.
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>>214911794
>>214911275
Cool, maybe I will fire it up
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early tng music is better than later
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>>214911950
This is known. Ron Jones is an OG.
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>so uh, India huh?
>que?
Fun fact: it’s never officially established where Kahn comes from. That and Montalban was great in the role and also in what little I remember of fantasy island. I’d wish for a spaceship
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>>214911821
We say Bajor with a hard R
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>>214911983
No, it's definitely specified that he's from northern India. It's right before Scotty says
>I'll admit, I always had a place in my heart for this one
or whatever
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>Wesley asking the questions we should be asking of AI today
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>>214911637
Cheer up. Here's another draft of the second song from "Stop This Wormhole, I Wanna Get Off!" The audio track is good but there's a couple bits where Ziyal and Dukat's lines are switched. I'll work on that after the Great /trek/ watch along.
https://vocaroo.com/1gESRvO1SUd1
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>>214912064
India is one of those places like the Middle East where the lines on the map are just something some English dipshit came up with on the way out. It’s never specified
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>>214912191
They specifically say he is a Sikh and that he ruled from Asia to the Middle East.
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>>214912258
We have many Sikhs here in Canada too, eh? It’s never specified, his backstory is ambiguous
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>>214912258
Khan is a Muslim name. Singh is a Sikh name. That basically triangulates him to the Punjab. Either India or Pakistan.
SNW's time travel episode puts him in Toronto, so it checks out!!
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>>214912317
So he ruled from Asia to the Middle East from Canada? Don't be obtuse.
>>214912327
SNW? I'm not sure what that is. Is that for gays?
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>>214912189
I love some good old fashioned OC.
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>>214912341
Shut up skanky retard
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>>214912338
Maybe he was born and raised in Canada and used his knowledge of honey smoked bacon to convert the people in Central Asia to his cause. We don’t know
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>>214912403
A Canadian warlord ought to be called Vladimir Poutine.
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>>214912403
I'll countenance many things in /trek/, which is MY thread, but acceptance of Nu Trek as canon is not one of them.

Anon, I'm confining you to quarters until further notice.
Dismissed.
I SAID DISMISSED.
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>>214911637
there's a bunch of racism in star trek though, and it's kino
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>>214912064
Source? Why would a Scotsman feel warmly about Hindustan?
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>>214912542
>KIRK: Name, Khan, as we know him today. (Spock changes the picture) Name, Khan Noonien Singh.
>SPOCK: From 1992 through 1996, absolute ruler of more than a quarter of your world. From Asia through the Middle East.
>MCCOY: The last of the tyrants to be overthrown.
>SCOTT: I must confess, gentlemen. I've always held a sneaking admiration for this one.
Source: the Space Seed script, you dingleberry
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>>214912450
Lol, I’d vote for him
>>214912477
See I’ve never seen SNW having learned my lesson from S1 Picard. I submit that you’re the nuTrek viewer and I hereby relieve you of duty as commander of Terok Nor on those grounds. You can still be emissary if you want
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what is the most niche, useless fact you know about star trek?
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>>214912633
I said DISMISSED.
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>>214912725
Fine, be that way. I’ll see myself to the promenade and buy myself a jumja stick. I’d have bought you one too, but now? Not in this space food court. Not today
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did the Founders choose to look like melted wax figures just so they look like Odo?
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>>214912716
all of them
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>>214912542
>Why would a Scotsman feel warmly about Hindustan?
scots and punjabis have some sort of affinity based on being clannish mountain folk with a love of mutton, fighting, and whisky
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>>214912542
he knew he was really Mexican
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I sure hope all my nonnies are tuned in
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>>214912987
Where at?
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>>214912987
This is beautiful
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>you are fully function aren't you data?
what did she mean by this
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>>214913009
Her vibrator broke and the replicator is barred from making sex toys
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it's Admiral Bitchaeyv
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Borath, the proto-Weyoun
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i really had forgotten about the whole ruse of Vorta pretending they're Founders
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Seska the Romulan
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>>214912569
He's saying he has an admiration for Khan, as in as a conqueror, the same way one might have admiration for Alexander the Great, not *India*. I swear, reading comprehension is becoming a super power.
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how is "changeling" an insult? it seems like anything you could call them they take as an insult.
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>>214913349
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changeling
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>>214913299
I was implying he had the admiration for Khan, though, not India. For some reason I thought you typed "Hindustani" instead of "Hindustan" before.
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>>214913349
https://youtu.be/lqI18tAnuPc
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>>214912716
You can't fire energy weapons at warp because they're constrained by the speed of light. You can fire torpedoes at warp because they're physical objects that can enter and exit warp bubbles, and may or may not have their own miniature warp drive system, considering that the payload is a matter/antimatter reaction. Any depiction of weapons fire at warp should adhere to these rules, but there are a couple violations regardless. Notably, JJ's Into Shartness has the USS EvilBadGuyShip firing everything it has at warp.
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>>214912987
Fucking kek, this might be your best one yet
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Kira is such a good friend I love her uwu
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>>214913349
>>214913374
Sometimes the insult comes from the tone you associate with it. "Nigger" and "Nigra" come from the Spanish word "Negro," which literally means "black." In theory, there's nothing *inherently* wrong with the word. But it's been used in the past with a tone that was piggybacked on the word and so it is perceived as similar. Changeling can be seen in the same vein.
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>>214913452
hehehe thank you. I giggled a lot while making it
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>>214913375
Fair enough. That specific excerpt however still does not specify Khan as Indian.
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jem'hadar are niggers
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>>214912987
Oh shit, I nearly missed this. Incredibly based anon, great work.
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That stuntman going over the bar has dark hair that Miles definitely doesn't have lol
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Borath is fugly
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>>214913410
if light is constrained in warp how do they see anything? event horizon got this right
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>>214912987
Lmao nice
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>>214913534
>>214913585

thanks, glad you like it~
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>>214913349
I prefer to call them shifter with a hard R.
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>>214913615
we know, Morn
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Sex with Troi
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>>214912987
This gave me a good chuckle. My only suggestion might have been to include that closing shot from "In The Cards", where Weyoun is laying inside the cellular entertainment chamber, but I don't think it would have fit the tone. Regardless, excellent work, I look forward to more in future.
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>>214913584
Magic. Idk, something something blue-shift, something something red-shift. Mass Effect probably explained this at some point.
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>>214913677
Weyoun is too young and fit looking this supplement is for geezers ya feel me lmao

thought I do need to think of a commercial ad that I can use him in. I haven't yet.
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>>214913719
Agreed. Maybe if a hair supplement or sleep aid commercial comes on.
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NOOOOOOOO GARAK
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>Garak using the stun setting

out of character desu
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>>214913653
>what did you say
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i'm getting mad remembering how out of everyone in the show the Founders are the ones who get redeemed in the end and suffer no consequences
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>>214912886
It's because makeup department still had leftover progenitor faces they wanted to reuse
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>>214913965
Section 31 are somehow the bad guys just because they gave the sex addict Odo space AIDS
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>>214913965
>be founder
>bunch of douchebag space mormons show up
>”we’re not interested, please leave”
>”federation values et cetera”
>”we asked politely, you’re trespassing. Please go.”
>”perhaps you didn’t understand, Federation values”
>”all right, that’s it.” *shotgun loading noises*
They did nothing wrong
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>>214914194
i don't know why you keep posting this sentiment when it's wrong and just makes you look dumb. what do you even get out of simping for goo people?
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>>214914194
Allying with Cardassia got the Dominion their foot in the door of the Alpha quadrant.
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>>214914218
Explain the case against them to me like I’m Kes and I’m 2 years old. The Federation was the initial aggressor
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>>214914247
my sista you just heard the Female Changeling explain that they perceive every solid in the universe as a threat that they have to neutralize by either controlling or eliminating it. everyone is an "aggressor" simply by existing outside of their control. what is not clicking?
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>>214914247
The goobacks have spent countless years interfering with and engineering other species to be slaves in their empire. They sent out a bunch of baby goobacks to random points in space to search for more species to infiltrate and destroy, and why do they do this? Because "OY VEY DON'T YOU KNOW WE WERE TREATED BADLY ONCE!"
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>>214914300
Yes, after the Federation and various other alpha quadrant factions invaded their space despite being told that they weren’t welcome and warned against doing it
>>214914303
Not relevant. If the alphas had stayed on their side instead of pushing their luck it wouldn’t have been an issue in the first place
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>>214914352
How did Odo get into the Alpha quadrant again?
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>>214914363
Accidentally fell through the wormhole as some insensate blob of goo. Not even remotely the same
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>>214914352
what the fuck does the Federation have to do with it? they've already subjugated and enslaved the entire quadrant before wormhole even existed. the Federation isn't special they are just more solid meat to enslave and if they never came there first the Dominion would have found them anyway.
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>>214902782
Maybe the Tal Shiar did a lot of ground work ahead of time and there were a bunch of pro Romulan militias armed and ready to go supported by Romulan commando teams that were smuggled in months before the actual operation. The 2000 extra troops would just lend some extra, professional muscle to forces already in place and once Vulcan was seized the Romulans could just present it as a willing reunification and try to rely on the Feds being hippies and not wanting to interfere in the domestic politics of a member world.

Or maybe Sela was better at sucking promotions out of green cocks than she was at planning covert ops.
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>>214914385
>Accidently was sent through space to infiltrate whatever planet he landed on and try to reconnect with the other goobacks
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>>214914385
>Accidentally fell through the wormhole
No.
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>>214914391
It’s the not just the feds though, it’s a whole host of alpha quadrant assholes some of whom like the Ferengi are explicitly there to try and rob the place blind. Thank you for adding weight to my position
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>>214914410
Yes. The founders chucked blobs of goo into space with no knowledge of who or what they are. They didn’t know the wormhole existed until a bunch of alpha quad assholes showed up
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>>214914424
your position is that the Dominion is otherwise peaceful which is batshit retarded because they literally explain that they aren't.
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>>214914456
there is absolutely no proof that Odo came through the wormhole.
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>>214914458
My position is that the federation should’ve followed their own stated principles, respected the dominion’s space and fucked off when they were politely asked to. It’s inconsistent as written with everything the federation is supposed to stand for
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Anyone else think the changeling story of persecution is revisionist history bullshit? One of them probably slit a solid's throat in a fit of incel rage over the most minor disagreement
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>>214914488
I think it's implied, or else Odo was flying through space for A LONG ASS TIME
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>>214914515
Watch your mouth you filthy solid.
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>>214914517
it's more implied that he was in space for a LONG ASS TIME than that the wormhole which opens up for the first time at the beginning of the series somehow opened up 40 years ago to let Odo through and no one noticed. there's no reason he couldn't have gotten into the Denorious belt the long way around.
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>>214914557
Fair enough. Makes you wonder about the wormhole though. You telling me NOBODY ever accidently flew too close? Like a bird setting off a Ring doorbell?
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>>214914515
>Anyone else think the changeling story of persecution is revisionist history bullshit?

do you remember Weyoun 6's story about how the Vorta protected a changeling once and they repaid them by genetically engineering and enslaving their race forever?

Odo was somehow impressed by that which I thought was baffling.

but anyway the point is Odo asks WHY the changeling was being chased and Weyoun says
>What does it matter? Solids have always feared and hated shape shifters you know that.

The propaganda is literally genetically encoded into Vorta brains I don't believe a single fucking word of it.
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>>214913965
It's OK we used the wormhole as our space garbage disposal after the war.
CLEAN IT UP SHIFTERS!
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>>214914777
A daring synthesis
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eh
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>>214914572
Nimoy has such a charming smile
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>>214910854
He was one of the best strategic minds the world has ever had. And he lost.
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>>214914689
It’s mutualism. Solids are the changelings as dogs are to people. It’s not complicated
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>>214914807
He didn't lose, Carthage told him to give up
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>>214914807
But that's exactly my point. Motherfucking HANNIBAL had 25x the troops that the Romulans had, and he was only trying to conquer a single fucking Peninsula.
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>It's a B'Elanna tried to rape inoccent shota borg cock episode
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>>214914596
I mean yeah. Stable wormholes are extremely rare, and space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mindbogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space.
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>>214914817
He was defeated in battle wasn't he? He wasn't getting reinforcements fast enough that's for sure.
>>214914842
got it
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>>214914972
Yeah I guess it's not like the Bajoran's worshipped the Wormholer's or anything.
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>>214914939
Yeah, Icheb's gotta keep an eye out for her.
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>>214901667
There should be thousands upon thousands of Cardassian half-breeds on Bajor after 50 years of occupation, Ziyal would have no problem finding a social circle.
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>>214915178
>There should be thousands upon thousands of Cardassian half-breeds on Bajor
And that’s just Gul Dukat alone. What a legend.
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>>214905898
I wonder if this is because Avery Brooks has no interest in reprising his role.
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>>214915329
He was a little out there for his time when the show ended. I can only imagine his reaction to nutrek now. I can’t actually but I bet it’s funny
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star trek
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Have you received it, /trek/?
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>>214915441
sex with shran
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>>214904114
MOAR
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>>214901148
Is that honor falling out of his pocket?
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>>214915479
He's spilling his gagh in front of his crush
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>>214914515
Nah, DS9 shows that solids mistrust even single Changelings like Odo. A lot of them would’ve been terrifying so it’s believable.
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>>214915717
Odo, you mean the dude who was willing to let all his friends die because he was busy having an orgy with all his long lost family?
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>>214915450
The only BBC i care about is Siskos
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>>214914807
>>214914990
The seeming low number of invading Romulan troops makes more sense if you assume they’re special forces who will stage a coup and bring install a puppet Vulcan government which will then choose to leave the Federation and unify with the Romulans. That would be more in line with the Romulans’ scheming nature, like covertly supporting the House of Duras against Gowron.
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Hey STO guy from the other night who was talking about a good Romulan torpedo boat, which one would you recommend? I've got one of them T6 token things
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>>214915766
He’d never goo orgied before. In his post-linknut clarity he realized his error. We’ve all been there
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>>214915885
The Goo is hard to resist
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>>214916571
https://youtu.be/AlPrEocc4oE
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>>214916571
Glory to you, and your goo
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>>214914352
>Yes, after the Feder
No, before. What do you think the Dominion is, sunshine and rainbows? Everyone is a slave race.
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>>214916631
In the gamma quadrant which is dominion territory, internal matter just like chattel slavery of Ferengi women. Fuck off they’re full
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>>214914557
>>214914596
there was the bajoran poet who flew in centuries ago and nobody really knew what happened to him until he came back out, so there's a precedent of the wormhole opening and nobody knowing
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>>214914557
How the hell do you think Bajor got its orbs and the Pah Wraiths were confined to the Fire Caves, anon?

Of course the wormhole had opened before, many, many times. The wormhole is not close enough to Bajor to be seen with the naked eye. It's nearby in the massive terms of space but remember, they had to move DS9 to put it close to the wormhole. DS9's position in space is not the same as Terok Nor's which orbited Bajor.
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>>214916753
Thinking about it though it seems likely to me that the orbs originated inside the wormhole. If I remember correctly there was a throwaway scene in the pilot where the wormhole help stabilize the wormhole somehow, so it’s not really clear if transit was possible other than the implied transit of Odo as a lil’ blob o’ goo
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Wormhole aliens help*
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>>214916793
They were in containers, not just free-floating blobs of goo
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>>214916870
Yeah but they were literally little blobs of goo that apparently didn’t even know how to shapeshift. Rough
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>>214916793
are you saying the changlings are the worm hole aliens?
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>>214901148
star trek ships are real. the show is propaganda.
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Is there anything more cringe than DS9 revisionism?
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>>214917043
Pretty much everything that came after it.
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>>214917043
nutrek
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>>214916953
No I’m just saying it’s not clear how transit through the wormhole worked before the emissary showed up and that the orbs don’t come from the gamma quadrant but from inside the wormhole. Perhaps it’s wormhole alien poop of some kind, I don’t know
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If I want to watch Trek where do I start? And I do want to watch William Shatner as Kirk. I remember liking the movies that came out a few years ago with the guy from Heroes.
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>>214917068
DS9 was the first nutrek however
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>>214917112
Watch that one episode, with the Klingons, and they like. Talk about their problems. That's a good one.
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>>214917160
Klingons seem to have a lot of problems
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>>214917303
The only problems Klingon's had was with anything that couldn't be hit with a Bat'leth
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>>214917142
no
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>>214917112
Start with the original TV series. The cage is a pilot without Shatner and it is fine but it is not the series in the final form.
You made a good choice starting with TOS. Kirk is by far the best and most well rounded captain.
If you were up on a ship and the shit was about to hit the fan you would want Kirk in THE seat.
That and all other Trek is in dialogue with the original series.
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>>214917112
So you're gonna wanna watch:
>TOS -> TAS (optional) -> TNG -> DS9 -> VOY
-> ENT
As for the movies, you're going to want to watch these ones between TOS and TNG:
>TMP -> WoK -> SFS -> TVH -> TFF -> TUC
After that, someone else can help you with the remaining movies. I know Generations comes after TNG, but I forget when Insurrection and First Contact happen during DS9. I know Nemesis happens after VOY though.
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>>214917576
TNG movies a shit.
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>>214917576
Nah fuck this shit. Be a chad. Watch Enterprise first.
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>>214917677
Agreed, but there are some kino moments. I really like the shot of Soran on the cliffside, his arms raised high in rapture as the nexus approaches on the horizon
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>>214917463
It was the first to usher in gay and marxist ideology shit. Even Babylon 5 made fun of them at the time lol. Everyone except theatre kids thought it was dogshit.
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>>214918486
but that's wrong you retard. do not reply to me further, you are clearly stupid.
(he will continue to reply anyway)
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Why do poltards vehemently oppose utopia though?
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>>214918682
well he kinda has a point
but for the most part (((they))) failed to subvert with real retarded currentday bullshit
it always made sense in the context of the show
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>>214918742
>utopia
because marxism isn't utopia and never was part of Trek,
like any other woke mental illness
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>>214906389
I thought the rationale was that more nacelles = each nacelle had to do less work = less fuel consumed
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>>214918774
You're going to have to define marxism, otherwise it's just a catch-all term for things you don't like.
What SPECIFICALLY do you object to?

The part where everyone gets free shit?
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>>214917112
no matter your viewing order, don't marathon binge it until you hit DS9
maybe hit 3 episodes max a day,
or even just one and think about it a bit
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>>214911637
What?
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>>214918807
marxism is well fucking defined
google it
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>>214918885
No nigger, you name the SPECIFIC things in Star Trek that you object to.
If you can't, you're just a schizophrenic freak.
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>>214911637
>racism in fucking Star Trek
yer a bit retarded, aren't ya
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>>214918872
reminder that in "if wishes were horses" colm was pissed the writers were pairing him a leprechaun character, so they were forced to change him into rumpelstiltskin
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>>214918952
ah
first DS9 season was almost just as retarded as TNG's and so gets more watchable with every viewing
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>>214919005
I just watched the
>Nog can’t even read
episode and it’s touching. Jake helped him learn to read. He’s a good boy
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>>214919161
agreed, it's quite heartwarming
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the first season of ds9 is kino
if wishes were horses and move along home are kino of the highest order
>>214919161
just got to the episode where nog wants to join starfleet. he has such a great and tragic arc

it's funny how ds9 has multiple side characters that have better arcs and storylines than main cast members of the other shows
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>>214918872
Just a reminder that there were two Irish groups in that episode. That was the Catholic Irish. The ones that show up later are all Protestant.
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>>214918807
Why bring up marxism at all if you agree it's never been a part of Trek?
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so seductive
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>>214919659
>Riker goes to planet of women, gets laid
>Kim goes to planet of women...
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>>214919682
lol, guarding that V card
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>>214919682
Please use his correct name, Ensign Harry Kim.
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>>214919682
Gets beaten with phallic objects.
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