Death to Worf haters EditionPreviously on /trek/: >>215569702
>>215592034how did worf impale duras with the tip of the bat'leth, when the blow that killed him was an overhead chop, not a stab?
>>215592068The same way this works
I hate how the TNG remaster makes everything pink.
>>215592168The Visitor is such a good ep. Rip Tony Todd
Finished Star Trek Enterprise last weekend, and I found the finale to be very unsatisfying. I liked the show, though. Gon' miss those little guys.The bad thing is that I've now seen all Star Trek series from the 20th century. Should I bother with series from the new milenium?
Can somebody photoshop this into Neelix?
>>215592254no. ent is the end. the first jj movie would've been ok if not for the squeals and beasty boys. maybe prelude to axanar and some of those fan things https://youtu.be/1W1_8IV8uhAstart over at tos
star trek sex with shran
>>215592237I watched one of the most recent movies he was in the other day and Jeffrey Combs was also in it. I pointed at the screen saying "Star Trek" when I saw them in the beginning credits lol
Did it, watched all of TNG in 172 days and now I no longer wish to see Patrick Stewart's bald ass head
>>215592559what will you watch next?
>>215592559You didnt watch the tng movies right...?
>>215592168>Doing a proper watchthrough of ToS right now, haven't got to this episode yet>Terrible episode, but tummy. Also Worf uses the replicator to make actual alcohol, which seems to have been retconned in later episodes.>Kino>Decent>This episode really made me hate everyone on ENT except Trip.
>>215592620no just a passing nutrek writer
>>215592308>Anti-contact>Non-offending>Neelix
>>215592596Something other than ST for the moment, going to do the movies but I need a break from Starfleet. Probably will do Enterprise then Voyager to finish it all though.>>215592620I've actually seen them all before so I know what I'm getting into. I remember being hyped for First Contact in theaters & less hyped for Insurrection, didn't see Nemesis at all when it came out.
>>215592714>Also Worf uses the replicator to make actual alcohol, which seems to have been retconned in later episodes.that also happens in early tng ep where they revive the people from the 20th century, data uses the replicator to mix the guy a drink and he says its one of the best he's ever had. even though data served scotty synthale in the one ep the replicator should have been fully capable of giving him a good drink before they busted into guinan's stash
I'm not drinking coffee from a replicator. Beans? Maybe. A cup? Fuck no.
>>215592838I'd replicate the cherries, roast the beans myself, would make sure I'd get the true experience with smell, taste, oils, the whole shebang. Then I'd whip out my Hario V60 to impress them all.
>>215592314Thank you, will save.
>>215592034sad trekie general
Eat any good books lately?
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>>215592596I love this pic
>>215592314>https://youtu.be/1W1_8IV8uhAman, this shit is so cool... shame it got C&Ded...
>>215593207they eventually produced a whole bunch of short eps. they were ok. the format loses its luster quickly, the interview part. it works well for the short film but thats not enough to keep it interesting over the long term. its still bettter than any nutrek shit since at least some effort went into it
every orifice
>>215593420why did they have that episode where he fucked that random lady that had amnesia?
>>215592168That such a generic synopsis for tonight's TNG that it could be a dozen different episodes.
>>215592034The way it read on my screen lookedDeath to WorfHaters editionWhich has a different meaning
>>215592893>JanewayMr Coffee>BashirV60 pour over >DataAeropress>ReedMoka Pot>SpockSyphon>BeefersKeurig
>>215592168>are treated extremely poorlywhy not just say slaves? is that considered too much of a spoiler or something? lol
>>215593683tng was cut off again so i replaced it with the memory alpha version, which was even shorter but at least finished its sentence
>>215592168>>215593752Just tell me if its the episode where the one planet sells space heroin to the other or not
>>215592168Archer was right and Trip was wrong, interfering with other cultures is cringe.
>>215593778its not
>>215593778No thats Symbiosis.This is the one with the old timey irish colony that has to re merge with their sister colony that is now all clones.Riker offers to wash a womans feet and then kills his own clone
>>215593822This is the episode capsule we actually need.
>>215593809Their culture was shit, claiming to be enlightened while basically practicing chattel slavery. I was glad that asshole engineer who started seething when he was told that slavery was wrong didn't get to reproduce.
>>215593896like these days where we claim to be so enlightened but want hoards of brown people to use as slave labor
>>215592082Delete this
Archer wasn't even really upset about Trip interfering on principle.he was literally so fucking mad because of the fact that they wouldn't be able to use the slave to get knocked up anymore. It's so absurd it's fucking funny. This is your fabled Starfleet captain, paragon of human values.
>>215593721All forms better than pussy ass Earl Grey tea. Picard really does have poofter ass taste, I think I'm actually starting to dislike him.
Which captain has the biggest reproductive organ?
>>215594646shran
>>215594646Not even stereotypical, it's just the way he holds himself, you just know.
>>215594646>get first cell phone>its nextel and has the chirpevery message was an away mission check in. my first one was so shit it didnt have texting. but it felt like i was kirk
>>215594492>Archer wasn't even really upset about Trip interfering on principle.I see just the opposite.
>>215594816i dunno maybe I'm misremembering or something but what sticks out in my mind about the scene is Archer being like>NOW THEY WONT BE ABLE TO HAVE A BABY, TRIP. ITS LIKE YOU BASICALLY KILLED 2 PEOPLE DID YOU EVER THINK ABOUT THAT, HUH TRIP????
>>215593896>>215594261Slavery is still practiced all around the world. The fact that you seem not to know this indicates the severity of your lack of education.
>>215594894i literally just said that you faggot
>>215592082A good time was had by all
>>215594894Yes, and if an alien questioned me about it I wouldn't try to defend it saying they don't understand human culture.
If a species wants to practice slavery its their right, the universe is big enough, we don't have to interact with them.
>>215595163I want to practice slavery with Queen Arachnia
>>215594492what you are describing is at odds with what you are saying
Another excellent Tony Todd role with the line that I must recite every Thanksgiving.
>>215592228>I hate how the TNG remaster makes everything pink.It has weird color grading but still the best way to watch the show. Paramount went above and beyond with the restoration. DS9 and VOY didn't get 1% the love TNG did.
Currently watching s2e4 Mirror, MirrorGood one. This episode and The City on the Edge of Forever now I see where Sliders got its inspiration from
>>215595000No, you didn't.How fat are you, anyway?
>>215594742Every year since the release of the smartphone has been worse than the last. We need to return to ending calls with the crisp clack of a shutting flip phone.
>>215592228>>215595574Think all the beige & pastel colored furniture kind of creates a washed out effect that is almost impossible to get out without being lit correctly. I don't give them fault for not filming for my 4K screen.
>>215595163All space slavers deserve xenocide. If you're warp capable and still too retarded to automate, you're clearly a failed genetic line.
>>215595574They would have, but DS9 and VOY especially didn't have film masters to reprocess. When LLMs are more advanced, I'm sure they'll do it again for both of them and it'll be closer to the TNG one.
>>215594861The episode established that the progenitor was a biological necessity for their species to procreate.It was wrong for Trip to interfere in the way he did, encouraging the progenitor to rebel against its biological role.
I've never heard of anyone hating worf
>>215595787His son sure did.
>>215595766>but DS9 and VOY especially didn't have film masters to reprocessYes they do, they were filmed on 35mm film but edited on video tape just like TNG was.
>>215595766Oh the masters exist, they're safely in limestone caves in middle America.
I just noticed in the intro of Enterpise they start with>it's been a long roadShowing the Caucasus mountains, Baikal lake>getting from there to hereShowing the American continent on the horizonThe whole intro is like an hommage to white people
>>215595732>and still too retarded to automateHuman brains use, on average, 12 watts of power, versus data centers, to do the same task. It's simply more energy efficient to use slavery, which means you can get more done with slaves than with automation. >b-b-but muh kardashevThe point stands. With a sun's entire energy, you can get more done with slaves than with automation. >b-b-but slavery is immoralSo are most byproducts of civilization. Deal with it.
>>215595885Good.
>>215595787
>>215595766>When LLMs are more advancedI wish I had an edit of this meme with Picard/Riker/Data or Kirk/Spock/Bones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JShPVYFajpM
>>215595935>no we need biological error in menial tasks forever!!!Orbital bombardment commencing.
>>215595774dude are you trolling because that's literally not what happened.
>>215596033S-tier Worf, A-tier Data, B-tier Guinan, the rest all sound too much alike.
>>215593721I use a Chemex you cunt.When I was in Kyoto I had Jamacian Blue through a syphon and I think that is what doing heroin feels like.
>>215596320You're wrong. It's exactly what happened.
>>215596033Japanese voices are so boring. Honestly maybe they aren't it's just that they just do this typecasting thing that's boring
>>215596033>>215596033>If you watched TNG with the Japanese dub, you didn't really watch TNG! You missed the cultural nuance with which Patrick Stewart says "Make it so." Go back and watch it subtitled like a REAL Trekkie!
>>215596273what error?
>>215592034lmao its the Jake's dad went out for cigarettes and never came back episode
>>215596600he literally does come back, several times. you're thinking of the finale.
>>215593815>Picard marry my daughter pls>Come on!
>>215595885Who is that smug looking, animated negress supposed to be?
>>215596700Ensign Beckett Mariner
>>215596033Worf is fantastic, Data is very good too. Disappointed with Mr. Pickert.
>>215595575Yeah both classics
>>215595787Some guy last thread was raging about him calling him shitbut it's the weyoun fag so take it with a grain of salthe's probably angry Worf gets more screen time than Weyoun (this is what hardcore fans really into side characters often think)
>>215593822>Riker offers to wash a womans feet and then kills his own cloneIf I had a nickel for every time Riker met a clone of himself, I'd have two nickels! Which isn't a lot of money, but it's still weird that it happened twice
>>215592034>Blocks your path
>>215595885there is a bunch of cool history from before white people took over but all the best stuff has been since white people took over. and humans havent done shit since we stopped letting white men be in charge of everything
>>215596958i don't care about screen time all I said was that Worf stories are rehashed and repeated to fuck and back and it bores me
>>215596992You are a fool to challenge a Klingon warrior, barrel.
>>215597029there are a lot of problems with worf but the biggest one is legitimizing jadizas klingon weeb bullshit. ds9 fucking sucks
>>215597072Don't knock dsn because of one bad call.
is there any good star trek AI porn? Would particularly like Hoshi, T'Pol and 7of9.
>>215597156the list is long
>>215597025Whiteys invented:HomosexCommunismFeminismIndiaDS9 (not a compliment)
O.......'Brien?
Why did the federation sign such a retarded treaty, cloaking is way too useful.I stand with Pressman!
>>215595935“Efficiency” is for the impoverished. Those seeking to “make do” with what they have, or worse, trying to buy low and sell high.
>>215597307It'd be kind of like in the 50s if we just said "Alright, the USSR can have all the nuclear submarines. We promise not to make any."
>>215597292>Homosexniggers are the gayest race on earth>CommunismJews>DS9 (not a compliment)Jews>Feminismalso Jews>Indiayeah okay, fucking Anglos giving them railroads and sewer systems instead of what they deserved
>>215597307Every Star Trek treaty is disproportionately in favor of the aggressors so they’ll fuck off and let the federation get back to exploring. Then several generations down the line, when the federation has expanded its scope and membership and is now even more technologically advanced than the old aggressors, ideally completely surrounding their space, the aggressors can either start a war they can’t win or join the federation.
>>215597384Feds are like children, if the Federation were real it would get taken over by conniving aliens, just like the US has been
>>215596764Never heard of her.
>>215597307it was probably inspired by how Japan and Germany were forbidden from owning Nukes despite being easily capable of creating them
>>215597615You don't need cloak if you have shields and planet killer weaponry.
>>215597292>Whiteys invented:You misspelled "everything".
>>215597556Giving an aggressor more than they can handle to distract them from aggression has been a common tactic in history.
>>215597384it was always that way for story reasons. man i'd love to see an aggressive starfleet. a proper section 31 involving themselves in all sorts of stuff, assassinating people. i said the same about star wars years ago - i'm sick of rebels, show me a competent sith or empire commander driving through systems like patton. that would be so refreshing to see
>>215597726It helps that 99% of races are vastly inferior to the UFP.
>>215597189suckstart a landmine
>>215597189If you don't know where to look, then you don't deserve to know.
>>215597731Is there a stardate-based viewing guide?
>>215597847i did a quick search and found this. skimming it i dont see anything wrong. someone def went through some efforthttps://www.johnstonsarchive.net/startrek/st-episodes-1.html
>total talaxian death
>>215597731your taste is so incredibly shit it strains credulity
>>215597847original air date is sufficent for berman. tos is best by production ordee
>>215597941The TOS BDs and Paramount+ go by production order. But TOS is even more fun watching our of order.
>>215597936luckily they didnt listen to me, a fan, and went with making luke a hobbit and killing han and leia became a space wizard suddenly. surely the great strides those made would will undoubtedly lead to good nutrek and we will all hail in a new hayday of scifi
>>215598071Romulan Commander my beloved
>>215598071how is suder not in there. he seems obvious
>>215597731That would essentially be space mongol empire.
I’m watching TNG on BD right now and the sound is equally kino. I don’t believe it ever sounded this good on broadcast, especially in SD. I recommend either a good sound system or headphones to really get the most out of the series.
>>215598442so what? thats how its shown up until the 'rebellion' shows up. 19 movies about rebellions, yet none about a competent commander doing their job to show us how the empire got to the point its at>>215598528early tng has way better sound and music direction than later
>>215598333he murdered a crewman for fun i don't think that constitutes "did nothing wrong"
>>215598594It wasn't for fun, the guy was annoying, it was for long term peace of mind.
>>215598594wasnt for fun, retard
>>215598594are entries to be vs 'for fun' or 'did nothing wrong' ?
>>215598564Since the empire is based on the nazis, they got to their peak essentially by catching everyone else off guard until they overextended into russia. Which is how russia has won literally every war they ever waged. Just let the land kill their enemies.
>>215598071i feel bad for Kilana. she probably got tossed into the meat grinder after letting a Founder die
>>215598676>founder diesso that ocean drop stuff was all nonsense?
>>215598725what do you mean?
>>215598741when the lady founder was hanging out with odo for the first time odo was asked her how many changelings there are.she told him there are many and one. when she leaves the link the ocean becomes the drop. when she joins the link the drop becomes the ocean. for this to hold true it doesnt matter if you kill one. its just a drop in the ocean. nothing is lost. nothing can be lost unless everything is lost.
>>215598071I like how the collage has a mix of genuine evil doers and characters the fans just find annoying.
>>215599258She was just being evasive and giving a non-answer as usual.Fact is, if the changelings and the link really functioned like that, they'd be The Borg and would have basically zero individuality. They would all contain the others. But they very clearly are just a collection of individuals which is what allows for separation and indeed, deviation.
>>215599258>for this to hold true it doesnt matter if you kill oneit holds true even if it does matter so, no.
>>215599258>but what is an ocean, if not a multitude of drops?Also the vorlons from Babylon 5 also did this hivemind but also individuals concept (as ds9 was a ripoff) where one of them dying permanently changed all the rest. Like having a portion of your brain removed.
>Riker destroying clonesImagine all the paperwork Riker is going to have to fill out for this away mission...
>>215599568Just vaporize the paperwork
>>215599599Then they're just gonna be asking about his desk pop.
>>215592082Why did they even need to do this?
>>215592168I'm guessing Gene came up with that TNG ep, based on the ending where they have to form a polyamorous free love colony to defeat genetic bottlenecking.
>>215599996literally peak star trek
>>215599568I like how in DS9 Odo arrests someone for murdering his own clone and Riker is out here killing multiple clones lol
>>215600385well Odo has principles and Riker does not
>>215600265Her face looks way too much like Vorenus's wife.
>>215600265imagine the spiders and crawlers that hit the floor along with that skirt
1990s concept art for the full scale Refit Enterprise proposed to be on display in Las Vegas for Star Trek The Experience
>>215600265tummy trek!
>>215601924thats the background everyone in elementary school got their pics taken on
Watched the Bajoirian space sail ship 'sode. Couple days ago. It's funny how Sisko says something like: 'I built it an exact replica to plans. Except, I added grav plating. I hate weightlessness'. Like, the writers thought nerds would nitpick that part. That they should be floating. When the obvious question I had was, how did the even get that wooden ship into space? Let alone break orbit. How are they breathing? A dozen more questions. It's funny that they picked just that one to handwave an answer for. And it fits that Trek trope. Where, no matter how bad things get. Grav plating is the last system to go down. The bulkheads could be exploding and shower the bridgecrew with sparks and rocks. But, they will be standing on their feet. Because stuntman wire work is too much money.Also, about 'Explorers' s03e22. I thought I remembered that most of the father/son bonding happened in the BUILDING of the ship. But Jake didn't help at all. Sisko did all that in like a 30sec montage. And it was nice of the Cardassians to immediately admit there was archaeological evidence of Bajorian spaceships as soon as Ben proved it was possible.
>>215592168My Halloween hypothetical lineup:TOS 'Catspaw', TNG 'Schisms', DS9 'Empok Nor', VOY 'The Thaw', ENT 'Impulse'.
He's an amazing cardassian.
>>215592254Im on Season 2 right now and so far the black guy has barely any plot lines. I think he was kidnapped once and another time he almost got lobotomised by the Enterprise doctor.Is he just a token character or does he have his own episodes later?
>>215604371You've already passed peak Travis. He only fades further and further into the background.
>>215604371If you're already past the episode where he returns to his childhood freighter, you're basically through with Travis focus. It's bit scenes in other episodes from there.
>>215604693>Admiral Archer show>Star Trek: Travis, 7 seasons, 20 freightisodes each
>>215598026Watch in stardate order
>>215605139what about time travel episodes
>>215605039Travis: Secretary of Freight
>>215605397Watch them back to front
>>215605806This is giving me faith of the heart!
>>215606034Why isn't the synopsis cu
>>215606162no h&i mistakes today
>>215606022They became more and more desperate to try to bring back their core audience they didn't want. Voyager was the early version of what they did to Star Wars and Marvel and other low status male entertainment.
>>215605039Interstellar truck driving. Don't even try to have space adventures. Just delivering cargo from A to B. Truckie Travis. Maybe one 'sode where he parks his freighter at a truck stop planet. With lot lizards. Literal lizards. Gorn in skanky outfits. So it's like Risa. But worse in every way. The show will sort of be like Elton John's Rocket Man. How it's set in a sci-fi future. Where being an astronaut flying a rocket ship to Mars is just a job. Workaday. Like, he's just a truck driver going to Mars. 'And all the science, I don't understand. It's just my job five days a week'. And, as a fun little nod to ENT. And use an inexplicably odd theme song. Star Trek: Travis should use the Shatner spoken word cover of Rocket Man as its theme.
>>215606233the drone strikes worked
>>215593713OP has no honor!
>>215593713imagine being at computersso fat you look and see food
>>215606034when i saw regeneration i liked it because it didn't bore me out of my god damn mind like most of enterprise. i made a little half-life 2 map where you see a combine ship crashed in the snow, get attacked by hunters, and go inside some underground buildings where they set up all their computers. the big thing was that i made timed triggers where if you hid in a spot for too long a hunter would blow up the wall and follow you in. the inside of the complex was based on a chapter in counter strike condition zero deleted scenes where you go to shut down a nuclear missile silo after the fall of the ussr and find some terrorists trying to launch it. i didn't finish the map and lost it when i moved computers but now that hl2 has a workshop and i know more about hammer i should remake it
Ensign Anon, report to my Ready Room immediately.
>>215606684that sounds fun. my friend and i used to make starcraft maps with triggers and stuff where the multiplayer map would kinda play like a single player story map would, you find the ship and stuff, story text pops up, then you get ambushed.
Rewatching TNG for the first time in ages and man season 1 has like 4 mind control episodes in the first 10 episodes
>>215606783I'm not in trouble am I?
>>215606807It's a carryover from TOS. Writers were lazy and if they needed a character to act in a way they normally wouldn't, it was because of hypnosis.
>>215606162No one summoned candlejack ye
>it's a Seven of Nine gets gaslit into thinking she was raped episode
>>215607821the doctor isnt appropriately punished for that. whole thing could have been avoided if he wasnt so prejudiced against vulcans
>>215607821NOOOOOO DON'T SUCK MY COCK!
>>215607821It's sad what Seven did to Grady.
>>215607966>Kim got cucked by Chakotay of all people
>>215608071What other Trek episodes are banned in Korea?
>>215608815>This phallic shaped object has a sexual connotation? On a sex planet?
>>215608815Andorian qt spotted
>walter, we had a good thing going. constant runabouts into the wormhole, bringing blue magic back straight from the dominion
>>215608815>Picard still reading paper books in the 24th centuryThat's what I love about old school sci-fi. The authors had no idea what would change and how quickly it would happen
>>215609120Picard is the type of autist who would still do that it's his character it's not like everyone else does it. They read stuff on padds or whatever.
>>215609120How is it that wild to read something like a book in a future that has replication? >no power required>easily replaceable >bio degradable>pisses off the ents
>>215609120E-books have declined something like 5% year to year since the pandemic as people went back to paper books. A true future is a mix of old and future tech, perfectly working together.
>>215609031still with the stupid wig
>>215609097Banks was so perfectly cast in that episode though.>We need someone to play a grizzled warrior who has been fighting and dying in the same war for ages>Say no more
>>215609120They had PADDs on TNG. Picard is just old school.
>your average trek poster
>>215609826I post on my phone and I’m more Ferengi than you
>>215609182If you’re going by sales you just buy one ebook every several years, I don’t trust your numbers. Every book ever written is available free and you store all of them on an sd card. All of them
what is the best Trek episode for Halloween?
>>215610570Catspaw is the quintessential one. The VOY episodes with Queen Arachnia are a solid choice, too.
>>215610570haunting of deck 12 sub rosa
>>215610570
>>215610570schisms
>>215609120>Books, young man, books. Thousands of them. If time wasn't so important, I'd show you something.
>>215609120lol nope real books are still going strong, far outstrip digital, there is just something about having an actual book in your hands
>>215610570Rewatching VOY, and it's crazy how many "spooky" eps it has. Not that many straight-up horror, but a lot of spooky moments that seem out of place after wholesome TNG-style trek. Voyager did the best with the trope of "ship encounters an anomaly and fucked up shit happens".The Haunting of Deck 12 is probably the most Halloween appropriate, but also>Faces>One>Revulsion>Waking Moments>The Thaw
>>215608033If you understood what women find attractive, you'll understand why Chakotay is a serial panty-wetter. I had to have my gf explain it to me. I'm 100% straight dude and I can appreciate his manly chill Dad-vibe.
>>215600265Blocks your path
>>215610853He's just a crazy mixed up emotional Chicano
>>215592254While it was unsatisfying, you gotta praise the gods for the time in which tv shows had the decency to get an endingNetflix surely popularized the trend of not renewing but also not finishing shitThe most painful thing being Dark Crystal Age of Resistance
>>215610777>Maybe if you'd looked up from your books once in a while you'd see what's in front of you.
>>215610902KAOS was a close second
>>215610813It will always stick with me how much potential Voyager had, and how much of that potential was squandered. Year of Hell should have been the baseline for the entire show.
>>215610915A library?
>>215592034Wait that forehead looks a bit like Alexander?
>>215610570There was literally a TOS Halloween specialhttps://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Catspaw_(episode)
>>215609120>>215609163This, Picard was raised by a crazy luddite father and an absentee mother, both brothers barely managed to stay sane through it, relying on one another for resolve. It makes sense his pastimes would be building ships in bottles and reading real books.
>>215610956forehead crests are the same if not similar between family members
>>215610923>every single episode had some gay shit innitNa senpai, that was trashI digested gay shit in episode 1I mumble at gay shit in episode 2I openly said to my gf "This is a lot of gay shit, if there's gay shit in episode 4 I'm not watching this anymore" on episode 3I stopped watching mid episode 4I can understand being a close second for you if you are homosexual, I don't need to see gay shit over and over
>>215595787Just cucks who can't handle KlingonChad taking "their" women.
>>215610944Reddit take. VOY is peak tv Trek.
>>215610944that's how I think about Enterprise
>>215611168imagine caring about gay shit and not just ignoring it
>>215610902>The most painful thing being Dark Crystal Age of Resistanceyou can thank the Jews for that one, they were furious about how antisemitic the portrayal of the skeksis was
>>215612061>ignore the first 10 minutes of this episode with two gays in bed being gay and talking about how much they love eachother in a gay manner
>>215611493Reminder that Worf fucked a buttslug
>>215612234Do did Beverly. She fucked a worm that was possessing her ship's First Officer. And then they went on like nothing happened. It's still one of the most bizarre TNG episodes.
>>215612404she didnt fuck riker
>>215612404Tbf she fucked the worm before it possessed Riker and she shut it down when Riker-worm tried to bone her. Same when replacement chick-worm tried to get her to munch carpet. She didn’t know what she was getting into, Worf knew full well that he was fucking Kurzon and any other number of male hosts rolled into the worm. Trill are gross
>>215612471>>215612495Huh. I remember Troi convincing her to fuck RikerWorm but it's been a while and I'm due for a rewatch.
>>215612519She wouldn’t fuck him, but logically Riker post worm knows what her coochie feels like
>>215612495>>215612519>>215612856The Trill on DS9 are still ass but at least they're so much better than TNG, they put it up Riker's BOX.
>>215613045its the same trill. they made up all that shit about the host being important so they could stay in the federation after there caste system was exposed.
>>215613045They try to be but they never quite pull it off. I’m tempted to blame Farrell but it’s a hard role, being able to sell a creature with several lifetimes of experience in a young body. Much as I like trek I can’t think of any actor on any of the shows that had the chops to pull that off over several seasons
>>215613108Jeffrey Combs pulled it off just fine
>>215613169I stand corrected, Jeff could’ve made it work, but it was a time before Shran’s sexiness so they had to settle for female eye candy. Shame really
>>215613249No I mean he actually did make it work. The Weyouns are all different but it's just underplayed compared to Dax's >WELL THIS REMINDS ME OF THAT ONE TIME WHEN I WAS TORIAS I ACCIDENTALLY SHARTED ON MY BALLS BECAUSE AS YOU GUYS KNOW I HAVE LIVED MANY LIVES AND SOME AS A MANshit
>>215613095>>215613108It's just an ass concept because the host just ends up being an individual sacrifice that is blended into the general life of the symbiote without true singular freedom of expression. It gets annoying after a while for both Dax's when you'd ask for their opinion & they'd come back with someone 6 lives ago. I DIDN'T ASK THEM.Just zero benefits to hosting the worm, other than perceived expanded lifespan but it's not your consciousness.
the p'tak is in
>>215613108>I’m tempted to blame Farrell but it’s a hard role, being able to sell a creature with several lifetimes of experience in a young body.Skill issue. Doctor Who actors were able to pull off being an ageless alien in a young human body
>>215613169>>215613312i got deja vu and checked the archives. i knew I said this before
>>215598528buy an ad
>>215598564I need to find the early TNG score that updates TOS stuff with 80s synths. It's only like the first season, maybe in second. That brief moment where TNG exists within the 80s EPCOT space.
How generous. Aren't all the ales free?
>>215613965no. they still have some sort of money and they still need to pay luxuries. the difference is that people arent obsessed with money. its just a way to allocate scarce resources like human labor and malaysian beach houses.
>>215614104>they still have some sort of moneylol no they don't
>>215614278What was Mudd counterfeiting?
>>215613312>THIS REMINDS ME OF THAT ONE TIME WHEN I WAS TORIAS I ACCIDENTALLY SHARTED ON MY BALLSmy sides are in the delta quadrant
>>215613481>doc who actors were able to pull it offno they weren't able lol, it's been different iterations of silly britbongs the whole timethe only through-line between iterations is that it's written to be the same character
>>215614345TOS is not TNG. There are no replicators in TOS, there's only a crude facsimile which is why they eat food cubes instead of replicated food and there's even a full kitchen on the movie Enterprise refit.There may've been some sort of energy credit type system during this time but it's never explicitly fleshed out.In TNG though, they specifically say multiple times in explicit terms that there is no money in the Federation.
>>215614345mudd was not a crewman aboard the enterprise in the tng era, nor was he even a federation citizen
>>215614405>There may've been some sort of energy credit type system during this time but it's never explicitly fleshed out.>In TNG though, they specifically say multiple times in explicit terms that there is no money in the Federation.In Gambit the four armed pianist explicitly told Riker she didn't accept federation credits.
>>215614405call it whatever you want. cadet sisko spent all his transporter credits going home for dinner. in all versions of star trek people are paid for their labor and people use the funds to buy luxuries.
>>215614522Could be a system exclusively for external trade but most likely writer error because that episode fucking sucks lol
>>215614529>transporter creditsThose weren't currency I don't think, unless you're able to transfer them. They just allot a certain amount of transporter use to each starfleet academy cadet.
>>215614535Sisko mentions wasting transporter credits as a cadet.
>>215614585they wouldnt need a credit system unless resources were scarce. if resources are scare you need money to allocate them because command economies and barter systems are ridiculously ineffecient. the real point is it doesnt really matter. money is not the driving force in peoples lives so all the problems with money have been eliminated. its just a universial medium for exchange. jews arent fucking everything up pushing paper around.
>>215614585Why? If there's truly no scarcity why would it matter?
>>215614671>>215614695>they wouldnt need a credit system unless resources were scarceOh, it's you. The guy that always argues this same retarded fucking point.But yes, there are reasons. One would be teaching students responsibility and limiting their travel to teach them discipline, you brainlet.
>The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity.>A lot has changed in the past 300 years. People are no longer obsessed with the accumulation of ‘things.’ We’ve eliminated hunger, want, the need for possessions.>It’s a strange thing, a hotel designed around a culture that had money and possessions.>Jake to Nog: Not for us!The Federation has no money!>Sisko: “Then use your latinum. Starfleet doesn’t use money.”>Kirk (to a 20th-century woman): “They’re still using money. We need to get some.”I'll take these references over offhand lines typically given by outside spec script writers.
>>215614715>PICARD: A very dangerous piece. Were you really going to give this to the Daystrom Institute?>VASH: Well, maybe not give it. Five years is a huge investment, Jean-Luc. I deserve to make a reasonable profit.shut the fuck up, retard. there is money. everything falls apart without it
>>215614852Vash is very clearly someone who works outside the Federation system. She is probably the worst example you could use. And the fact that the Institute has goods to trade for it implies nothing in your favor either.
>>215614819>The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity.no reference to money>A lot has changed in the past 300 years. People are no longer obsessed with the accumulation of ‘things.’ We’ve eliminated hunger, want, the need for possessions.no referenxe to money>It’s a strange thing, a hotel designed around a culture that had money and possessions.conflicts with the countless possessions owned by the crews of federation starships>Jake to Nog: Not for us!The Federation has no money!jake is a retard who doesnt know shit about fuck>Sisko: “Then use your latinum. Starfleet doesn’t use money.”cant find this quote anywhere but starfleet uses money all the time>Kirk (to a 20th-century woman): “They’re still using money. We need to get some.”he says that to the crew. and in this case he means they are still using physical money to put in an honor box to buy a newspaper. same with the exact change on the bus and when he tells the broad they dont use money to buy pizza.
>>215615021The Sisko quote is: >Nog: “You don’t understand, Captain! The Ferengi don’t have Starfleet credits.We have gold-pressed latinum!”>Sisko: “Then use your latinum. Starfleet doesn’t use money.”Pretty explicit.>he says that to the crewWrong, he says it to Gillian.>Gillian: “You don’t use money in the 23rd century?”>Kirk: "Well, we don't."Anyway, I accept your concession.
>>215614879>goods to tradevash doesnt want goods. goods are fucking worthless if you cant sell them. the federation institute pays money. this is econ101 shit. you cant handwaive it away by claiming every example of people using money is an exception. they still use money because there is still scarcity and money is the most effecient solution. THEY JUST ARENT OBSESSED WITH IT LIKE YOU
>>215615054>>Kirk (to a 20th-century woman): “They’re still using money. We need to get some.”i really hope youre nta, retard
>>215615065>goods are fucking worthless if you cant sell themWho says Vash can't sell them? She deals with non-Federation races typically, Ferengi, etc. Her whole character is the independent rogue who lives outside of the boundaries of Federation rules. Again, a terrible example on your part.>>215615082Take it up with Gene Roddenberry faggot>In the 24th century there will be no hunger, there will be no greed, and all the children will know how to read.Do you think Gene would care if some autist says "it all falls apart without money!!11" No, because Star Trek isn't about realistic world building and never has been you fucking dipshit.
>>215615107money was extremely prevalent under gene.>bet credits to navy beans>federation spent good money on our training>money I got>I just bought a boat>I would pay real money for him to shut upyou cant win. give up.
>>215615175>anon has never heard of turns of phrase or colloquialisms
>He thinks that when people say "[they'd] bet dollars to donuts", that they're being literalRetard fatigue
>>215615175Those are just turns of phrase.But anyway, that's a different guy entirely, 60s Gene. That was "grounded television writer" Gene Roddenberry, the guy who got TOS on the air and let other guys like Gene Coon do realistic worldbuilding for him. It's where we get the Prime Directive and a lot of Starfleet's hardline militarism.But that's not who made TNG or the TOS movies.The guy who made those was coked up sex addict cult leader 1970s Gene Roddenberry who started huffing his own farts and getting high on his own supply. He almost became a Jonestown type during these years, or Charles Manson, it's kind of a miracle he didn't.The concepts of TNG are way more high-minded than TOS by design and no money is one of those concepts whether you like it or not. Realistic? Grounded? Maybe not but that's not what Gene was trying to do with TNG and S1, for all its flaws, shows a lot of his utopian concepts in action before the stroke mushed his brain.
>>215615216Impossible. You can't bet credits navy beans if credits don't exist. It makes no sense
>>215615246such a phrase can only be turned if dollars exist. im getting bored
>>215615369one of the dumbest posts ive ever seen
>>215615410am i supposed to be impressed that you learned how to read today?
>>215615369No one has been hoisted by their own petard in hundreds of years, but people still use the phrase.
>>215615541No one has been hoisted by a petard ever. Petard means a fart.
>>215615798It's a grenade. You would hoist the grenade towards your enemies unless it blew up in your face, hoisting you by your own petard.
>>215615798petard means bomb, you doltto be hoisted by one's own petard means to have something PROVERBIALLY blow up in your face
>>215614819That’s Picard projecting his fantasy. Plenty of humans still like money in the 24th, the federation isn’t the boss of everyone
>>215615957we're talking about the federation specifically you phoneposting retard
>>215615970That’s an ad hominem, not an argument. Does the federation control Risa? Do the whores get paid in transporter credits? Ask your mom
>>215613965Probably because the Captain is giving permission for them to have some beers on duty
>>215616025>comes in at the end of a long conversation>doesn't know what the hell people are talking about>makes an assumption>it's wrong>...that's an ad hom!Are you fucking drunk?
>>215616050No, the other guy is correct regardless of how much text you post. They have money if for no other reason than to transact with non-federation types, they just dance around it, Picard’s grandstanding to some frozen primitives notwithstanding. You’re just dumb
>>215616098>the free love swingers planet totally has money my mom says so
>>215616098Nope. Whenever the Federation trades with an alien species, they exchange goods and resources directly. They don't give the Cardassians some money, they give them industrial replicators (member those ones the Maquis stole?). They trade dilithium. They trade technology (with warp capable species). They exchange cultural resources, sensor readings, etc.You are a brainlet who can't imagine a world without fiat currency.
>>215616231how do propose they ration the hotel suites and whores without money?
>>215616025The sluts on Risa are paid in sperm.
>>215616231Your mom may give it away for free, Risans aren’t so stupid >>215616234>I have no concept of history or trade between disparate cultures Alright, fine, they have no money just like Odo doesn’t obey the laws of mass conservation
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>>215616234then why did they bid 1.5million credits for the Barzanian wormhole?
>>215616333They were planning on stiffing them and paying them in 1.5 million creds worth of stem bolts or sensor readings. It’s pointless trying to reason with the guy, he’s in lala land
>>215616360>be the federation>trade valuable commodities for gold-pressed latinum to use with species that use gold-pressed latinumit's not hard to figure out
>>215616360>1.5 million creds worth of stem bolts>worth
>>215616514>>215616516The point is that they not only explicitly reference federation credits, it’s necessary for it to exist in some fashion. Money can be simply regarded as a medium of exchange, it’s a lot easier than pricing things in jumja sticks or industrial replicators. Picard’s speech to the frozen industrialist was just him being a condescending prick, not a reflection of how things must necessarily work to transact economically. I’ll stop because it’s a fantasy universe anyway but really it’s just basic logic, whether it’s called creds, quatloos, latinum or dollarydoos
>>215616038non-alcoholic synthetic beers?
>>215616642thats what i was trying to say
>>215616689Cheers m8, this round’s on me
>>215616642If that was true why are they never mentioned again
>>215616989Because it’s a massive hole in the writing generally and Roddenberry was a dumb shit for pushing the notion in the first place: to say that people aren’t infatuated with it in the future is fine but to say it doesn’t exist at all logically makes no sense. Don’t worry about it
/trek/ or treat you cunts
