>>216200232
I hope most of the main characters die or the writers get raped.

>>216200234
>damage control is here
lol get bent netflix guy

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It's a good season
You all are just jaded as fuck
Lmao

Can't wait to see where Will is putting those tentacles on christmas day

>>216200249
They said this season has the most violent death yet which I’m looking forward to. Who do you think it will be? I’m hoping Dustin

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I’m literally fucking shaking right now. I was sobbing during the montage of Will’s memories. It was so touching and powerful. This whole fucking scene. Oh my god. I’m still shaking.

>>216200258
In Mike. He's putting them in Mike.

>Vecna lures children into a private habitat
>spirals and triangular symbols all over the season
>characters mock the idea of quarantine
Is this show trying to covertly redpill us?

>>216200265
It was probably the random soldier who had Vecna's claws come out of his face
I was actually surprised they did a kill that brutal

>>216200265
It have been that one soldier getting vecnads claw through his face

>>216200232

Posting this again because Stobin needs to be discussed. Robin said "I like dick" multiple times lol
>What pisses me off is, supposedly, the original script in season 3 *was* for Steve and Robin to end up together, thus all the obvious hints throughout the season up until a certain point. It was because the script was still heading that way until Maya Hawk opened her dumb bitch mouth and suggested Robin be a carpetmuncher instead to the Duffers who apparently "loved it" and therefore mid-season retconned already-filmed hints toward the then-original ending of Stobin endgame into some virtue signalling shit, likely because they would have been cancelled if they stuck to their guns. It was leading up to be a perfect Stobin ending, and they had to fuck it up, which obviously leaves Steve by himself and thus the writers force him to start pining for Nancy again.

>Stobin was (and still is) my #1 ship and they fucked it

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How did Nancy recognize the Creel House from Max's drawings?

>>216200265
If they kill dustin I'll be so happy. I don't care about the level of violence I just want less of these annoying nerds.

>>216200265
It was Ted

I've come to realize after spending years on /tv/ that anons are literally incapable of distinguishing bad acting from good acting. They literally don't know how to tell it apart, so when they tell you the acting is bad, what they're really saying is
>I don't know what I'm talking about
I'm here to set the record straight
So far none of the acting has been particularly great, but it is nowhere near "bad" the acting on will and mike in s4 was bad. This is somewhere between decent and good. I know what I'm talking about, unlike most anons.
By the way, the best actors in each season were
>s1 joyce
>s2 will
>s3 billy
>s4 max
So far no one in s5 has stood out
Anyways
Good season so far

>>216200337
>no one in s5 has stood out
Holly

This Steve Nancy Jonathan thing is so fucking annoying, I was hoping they would drop that subplot.

>>216200361
She's good, but hasn't put on an outstanding performance as of yet. She is very cute, thoughever

>>216200309
I agree with all this and I still hope it pans out
It's what's best for the characters and it would be interesting to see all the reddit-types who love Steve go insane

Is Will a good gay character? Or is he pozzed tier?

>>216200232
They made Holly too sexualized. It's uncomfortable, bros. What's up with her insanely sexy voice as well? No, bros. This is wrong. This is Murph in Interstellar all over again. Hollywood has no morals.

>>216200390
He's not a character at all.

>>216200265
they nuke the place where they all are
like the ending of Return of the Living Dead

>>216200368
Natural consequence of stretching out a show to 5 seasons and having no idea what to do with the characters. Off the top of my head in the span of minutes I can think of more interesting things to do with these characters
>Have Chrissy be Steve’s girlfriend in season 4 as intended, have him wracked with despair over her death and coming to terms that his adult years are spent on tragic events and he yearns for the kind of youth he sees in friends like Dustin only to be reminded their youth is wasted on traumatizing events too
>Dustin despairs over Eddie’s death, feels exhausted by all the events of the show and develops depression thus alienating him from everyone. Get rid of the stupid bullying shit. Dustin becomes an asshole because he genuinely starts to feel hopeless about life, even leading to him breaking up with Suzie; throughout the season he must find his old drive back

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He's so fucking hot

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Bros

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>>216200398
she obviously wanted to play housewife for Henry, given her parents' issues that she cries her brains out over
aside from the part where she was literally cooking and trying on dresses and snooping through Henry's crap in his room, the correlation is kind of subtle and I wonder how much of it is intentional
but textually it seems like she probably was in love with Henry and wanted to be his wife, prior to Max telling her what's actually happening

>>216200436
Viral Netflix marketing. Even the girls hate this kike

>>216200436
No nosebleed already better than eleven

>>216200444
the dad dying already didn't happen unless the hospital blows up or something

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>>216200456
Kids can't be wives

>>216200368
They should have just paired Steve with Maya Hawke as they originally meant to. It would have saved us from Maya Hawke becoming LE QUIRKY LESBIAN as the show progressed and also there would have no need for the ginger dyke, who is cute, but a complete waste of screen time.

>>216200436
Looks kinda like Leclerc.

>>216200477
Was it really so hard to find an actual forest to film in

>>216200385
The problem is if they try to pull a "Robin realized she actually likes Steve" people would riot about her "erasure" and throw hissyfits. We will have to just read the slash fanfiction and be happy with that

>>216200459
Well that's a lie he and 11 are the only ones of the kids with fans between seasons

It's crazy to think this show used to have a somewhat serious tone during its first season. It was always family oriented and an adventure show, but it took itself seriously. Now it's borderline self parody. If someone went straight into season 5 from season 1 I bet it would be a similar mind fuck as going straight from the first Fast and Furious movie to the later ones.

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>>216200312
I genuinely cannot fathom why you watch this show to begin with if you don't like the characters. Man, it's like some of you guys WANT to seethe and piss yourselves. Mindboggling mouthbreathers.
A few days ago in one of the pre-season threads, anons were discussing s4 and one post said that it was "nonsensical and stupid" how robin figured out the music was the key to freeing max "out of nowhere". Insane how so much can just go over people's heads.
>they went to speak to someone who they knew went through the same thing max is going though
>he deliberately made mention of music at the end of the nightmare, which he survived
>the doctor before hand mentioned that music is calming to people and can reach their mind when often words cant
>ontop of all of this max had been explicitly and deliberately shown listening to her favorite music the entire fucking season, the most blatent foreshadowing in the entire show looking back
Yet, for that anon, the running up that hill scene, which was one of the best in the series, "came out of nowhere" and he was fucking sick of it. He hates it HE HATES IT!
you always have to remind yourself when speaking to anons that the vast majority of them are very, very stupid. Borderline retarded. They will misunderstand the plot completely and then call it bad. They will say "the writing is shit" while missing blatently obvious characterization. Some anon asked why an aparition of billy didn't show up to save max from vecna, why billy wasn't in the memory montage. He asked this because the previous scene was all about billy's letter and according to him, the show was treating him "like he had no flaws and was a total hero"
He didn't understand what max's feelings toward him were despite being DIRECTLY told. Troglodyte behavior. Im not here to say the show or season is perfect, there have been pleanty of mistakes and poor choices along the way, s4 was a mess every time it stepped outside of hawkins. This season. So far so good

>>216200428
I think it would've been better to have Billy not die in season 3, and he retains the semi-retcon early season 3 personality where he's not a violent psycho anymore, maybe just kind of a dick, but whatever
and then HE dates Chrissie and he spearheads the revenge quest against Eddie, and they circle back around to be more in line with season 2 Billy but with somewhat legitimate reasoning behind it
Steve should be fucking Robin and Nancy should have an arc where she's jealous or something, almost kicks Jonathan to the curb, but comes to her senses in whatever way, Jonathan would need to vastly improve himself to go hand in hand with this
The California arc was stupid, they should've just made some deal with the government where Eleven can kind of have a normal life in Hawkins but she has to occasionally do government espionage again, similar to Will's mandatory checkups in season 2 at the government lab
If anyone had to be a lesbian, it should've been Max

>>216200309
That was the cherry on the top of season 3's awfulness. The one good thing about that season was Steve and Robin and then they ruined the payoff.

>>216200505
Literally no one gave a fuck about Will up until now.

>>216200504
Exactly, it’s not happening. Just live with the fact that Robin is a dyke with a filler gf character who will mostly likely have to be killed on account of her being a filler character who would be convenient for the writers to kill in order to build tension.

>>216200311
Because she was inside of it dumbass
She specifically saw the stained glass window with the rose or whatever and then recognized she was drawing broken peices of a house. She even directly mentioned the door as the thing that tipped her off
This is what I meant by the way, with my last post. Be careful when you speak to anons because it's very likely you're just talking to a complete fucking moron who doesn't understand that nancy was LITERALLY inside of his house in the vision

>>216200309
Robin being a lesbian isn’t nearly as bad as Maya Hawke turning the character into her autistic self where the difference between s3 and s4 is a 180.

>>216200477
sure they can

hags and fags will be deported to the salt mines, I realized it's too risky to deport them to india

>>216200477
The costume designer for holly was the most based person who worked on the show and it's not even close

Bros, where is Argyle? He was godawful, but it's still baffling he just disappeared. Imagine binging the show for the first time. Suddenly there's this new main character added to the cast. Then he is completely forgotten. KEK

>>216200477
that's not the point, and the character would probably disagree given that she's obsessed with a Wrinkle in Time, a children's book chocked full of freudian symbology written by a woman who clearly had very intense daddy issues of her own
Again this is way more subtle than the show has ever been before and I can't say it's intentional, but at the end of the day it is all just math that adds up to a specific number

>>216200490
Exactly this, it feels like gratuitous virtue signalling, nothing more. Robin's chemistry with Steve was off the charts when they were still filming s3 under the assumption Stobin was still endgame - hints like them holding hands, Dustin pushing Steve to her every moment he talks to him privately, the scenes in the Russian bunker - all great moments to develop the Stobin only for all the foreshadowing they filmed to be thrown out (and therefore the story makes no sense, why foreshadow things only to spit in the face of what you're implying?) and ruined and leaving Steve a straggler who the writers no longer have a conclusion for so they pull the love triangle card out of their asses.

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Who the fuck is this guy? I swear this show has too many fucking unmemorable characters.

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This is my wife Max :)

>>216200477
This bitch is fucking with my head. She looks like a hotter Britt Robertson.

>>216200556
who was argyle

>>216200530
I think about that alot, too. If they had kept Billy alive the show would have been tighter and more focused to an extent, but his death scene was pure kino and his death lead to the dear billy scene, which was also pure kino.

>>216200541
Anon, give us a break. This show has been going on for 10 years. There are 3 year breaks in-between seasons. We don’t remember shit about what happened previously because most of it wasn’t particularly important for these characters anyways (Mike and Will spent all of season 4 on a road trip doing nothing). I don’t even remember how they explain the Mindflayer

>>216200503
Lol I was thinking "was it really that hard to film an Oldsmobile driving down the road"

>>216200256

Surely you can elaborate why it's good so far.

>>216200533
I mean go anywhere online other than /tv/ and that's clearly bs. People have been theorising and writing fetishistic fanfic since s2.

>>216200589
The WEED, DUDE guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsyUa63NM1E

>>216200556
He drove back home
He doesn't wanna deal with any of that crap
He probably doesn't even remember it cause he was toked up the whole fucking time

>>216200532
>>216200537
>>216200550
I found her characterization much worse in s4 than now, now seems slightly less annoying (and she has a cuter hairstyle) but yeah s3 Robin is peak, Stobin is the best ship in my heart, I will just have to seethe and read fanfiction.

Would be kind if kino if her little gf gets Vecna'd since it would leave her open for canon-compliant fanfiction where she trauma-bonds to Steve and awakens her love for dick

were any of the dudes who stomped dustin the two bullies from season 1? someone said something like "don't piss your pants again" or whatever during the snake scene
season 1 is the only one I rewatched recently (over a year ago)

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I understand why they didn't but they really should have clued Mike's family in on the monsters, if nothing else, given the circumstances.

They made Robin and Dustin even more fucking annoying.

>>216200556
I'm honestly glad he went back to his home planet. Fucking hate stoners.

So was Vecna actually a Boy Scout or is did he just create some ideal persona for Holly to idolize?

>>216200518
I ain't reading all of that lol. The characters have overstayed their welcome they should've mostly been killed off.

>>216200620
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah the mexican yea
he was cool
R.I.P. him and eddy, at least they pulled out before this shit season

>>216200640
They were friends with the blonde guy from season 4, the one who went on a witch hunt against Eddie and the Hellfire club kids

>>216200309
>Robin confesses to Steve about being a dyke
>you can literally see the gears working in Steve's head trying figure it out
>still accepts her being gay, despite it being the 80s
Steve is best boy and I would fight anyone who disagrees.

In confused. Did Will have his powers before he went to the upside down and got possessed or not?

why does mike's mom have an entirely different style aesthetic in every season?
she's supposed to be a middle class midwestern suburban mom, not an heiress living in a coastal city

>>216200642
Duffers won't do it because their job is to clone the dynamic of season 1 every season.

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>>216200541
What vision? I'm so confused

So we all agree Dr.Kay is Papas ex wife or something right?

>>216200265
hopefully eleven, she shouldn't be allowed to live

>>216200686
He unironically needed to unlock his lesbians fetish to unlock his power.

>>216200686
After. The exact nature of his powers are unknown. Whether he’s an extension of Vecna / the upside down or Vecna accidentally created a peer alongside the likes of himself, 8, and 11 is unclear

>>216200683
>Duffers write Steve as even mildly homophobic or butthurt about his crush not being into him
>core audience groups permanently hate him
>actor probably won't even do that season because of fear it will damage his music career

yeah anon the Duffers are great character writers

>>216200518
what a pointless response
do you not realize people hate dustin because not only ugly, but also weird looking, and has an annoying voice?
it's not like he's a particularly amazing character ignoring those facts, either
and on top of that he's been a bitchy little retard this season

>>216200683
I love Steve too, but it would be so so fulfilling for her to realize Steve is the only man she could ever want when her stupid gf (hopefully) gets Vecna'd.

I was reading a decent Stobin fic but it's unfinished and may or may not have been using AI to write which I hate

>>216200687
Because her children have (mostly) outgrown her and she's in a loveless marriage that she acknowledges. It's part of her "character" to reinvent herself, but never actually develop.
Shit, Nancy looks different in every season too. Women. Not even once.
>t. Will

>>216200687
Duffers know 90% of viewers won't even remember what she was like before.

>>216200692
I did consider that they must shop at the same wig store and chuckle to myself about it

The first episode is one of the biggest cringe fests I've watched in a while. Unironically keep pausing it to come here to post because it makes me cringe so much. I'm on the cemetery scene now. Good lord, Dustin. You are so cringe now.

It is absolutely ludicrous at this point in the show that they’re seriously trying to conceal the fact that there are monsters in Hawkins from other characters and act like everyone in the town doesn’t suspect anything gravely supernatural is happening. It’s beyond absurd. They even went so far as to make a new villain in season 4, a jock who thought Satanism was spreading in the town after witnessing his friends get murdered in a supernatural way, as if that wouldn’t be the most obvious fucking conclusion most people would make

>>216200747
see >>216200688

>>216200747
They overdid the human adversaries this season

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>>216200722
>ep4
>steve has idea
>jonathan and dustin doubt him
>nancy gives him the confidence to go through with it
it's not robin, nancy is the right one

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Why does new generation look so old?

>>216200765
I want to build her an ark

>>216200765
not every character. just the gay ones.

>>216200571
Will the Jew

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>>216200607
>the entire cast is all in hawkins working together, using eachother's stregnths, to combat the evil theyve been fighting for years
>there is a good balance of heavy, intense action scenes, light hearted comedy, and mysterious spooky shit
>vecna going after a dozen children all at once is a natural, believable, and horrifying continuation of what he was doing since season one, showing that while they hurt him in the last season, he's still a massive threat, as evidenced by the fourth episode. He's stronger than ever before
>holly
>king steve is STILL the fucking king of hawkins
>the action scenes are blood-pumping and intense. Watching a dozen demogorgun rip an army apart brutally is entertaining and FUN to watch, while also being scary
>will having powers works because he's been at the center of all this shit for years. He's been psychically linked to the hivemind since he was taken over. It's very cool that he's able to use the same system to take control of the monsters. It's a natural progression from how he was a spy
>the writing overall is tighter and more focused than previous season, again, due to them all working together towards the same goal. The trap in ep3 was fantastic for this reason. The best times in the show are when they work together to execute a plan
>holly
There are some bad things too
>bringing back the pajeeta is gay and cringe
>focusing on will's fag shit and robin's dyke shit is gay and cringe
Those are the two biggest blemishes on an otherwise fantastic start to the season

This show really needed a subplot of Mike cucking El

>>216200787
>the jewish boy is the gay sleeper agent
figures

>>216200764
they do that every season anon.
the first season has literal murderous middle school bullies and government agents who kill a guy on sight because he might have interacted with El then become completely ineffectual until the finale.
the show has never been well-written

>>216200780
Heyyyyyy, buddy. More careful with the language, pal. We don't use the o-word here. We call em' milfs.

>>216200794
Happened in season 2

>>216200280
It's like the saw the complaints about every season is just Eleven holding out her hand and scream and pulverizes the monster and they decided to do the same thing to the worst character in the worst possible way

>>216200787
Hold the fuck up if that guy's Will who the fuck is the long nosed jew guy? I thought long nose jew guy was Will.

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>>216200780
this doesn't look like high school to you?

>>216200814
Really? I can't remember almost anything from season 2. With whom did he cuck her? Max?

>>216200821
That's Noah the Zionist

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>>216200747
>So, you’re wondering why your town is full of strange disappearances, serial murders that no human could commit, reports of bizarre creatures roaming around, catastrophes like a whole mall burning down, a giant earthquake that defies all known earthly phenomena and creates a huge crack in the middle of the city, and a freakish supernatural storm that makes everyone sick requiring quarantine and severe military presence?
>Well then you’re just a jock chud and deserve to die for asking questions

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>inb4 the entire series was a D&D campaign being played by space aliens

>>216200780
Nancy has a legitimate eating disorder. As to Maya, I don't fucking know, ask her parents

>somehow, dustin has become the most chad looking of them all

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>>216200747
Reminder that the only reason there's any real conflict at all this season is because a random military dude really REALLY hates 11 for no discernible reason, and has arbitrarily decided she is solely, and personally responsible for everything happening, dispite all the evidence to the contrary.

Most of these kids grew up to be godawful actors. Sadie Sink and to a lesser degree MBB act circles around the other kids. The black one and Will are particularly wooden.

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>>216200232
Byler

On episode 3. They really needed to shoehorn the shitty younger black sister into the series again, huh? Except now she's ugly and has the black woman attitude

>>216200830
there is one seen where El sees Max interacting with him and gets mildly upset but leaves. it doesn't lead anywhere.

I don't think any actual teenaged relationship drama is going to happen.

>>216200776
On;y because they changed course from the original script of s3 being Stobin endgame as explained in >>216200309

Thusly, with Steve untaken they fiddlefucked him into a dumb love triangle. I want my Jancy endgame

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>>216200849
is boned

This show lived and died with the red ranger. I was hoping mr whatsit was Billy’s ghost here to come help save the day.

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>watching show
>every time they try to tell me these are "kids"
they took too long making this season.

>>216200830
It's been like eight years since I saw it, but I remember El being jealous of Max throughout the entire season

>>216200780
This is unironically what women look like when lightened by the sun. Most shows/movies now use extremely diffuse light or film under overcast skies to make the women not look hideous.

>>216200780
Because they were twenty somethings playing teenagers in S1 a decade ago. Now, they're thirty somethings playing teenagers in S5 lmao.

In short: Vecna sucks and is boring, Henry is great

>oh hey hop yep i'm in here too! what's going on? nah i'm not gonna tell you. anyway, let's go this way.

>>216200847
>>216200793
This is what I mean. You can only really enjoy this show if you watch it on the most superficial level and really get hyped when Eleven (or now will) stretch out their hands and scream. If you think about the writing for all the seasons any deeper or consider why any of these conflicts even happen, it completely falls apart. The show is just junk food, it’s not meant to be substantial anymore, the whole premise of this season is ridiculous when you think about it for 5 seconds

>>216200793
Agreed on all fronts.

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>jobs to a 5'3 shoplifter

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>>216200794
With Joyce

>>216200899
You are wrong
:)

>>216200882
Didn't the Duffers write a stage play that revealed that the spider was actually diddling him since he was a kid?

>>216200905
They jobbed to a baseball bat the first season. Demogorgons are inherently lame as fuck, always have been

>that scene where Will wants to help by doing something very basic and Joyce humiliates him in front of his friends
LMAO

>>216200918
IIRC the Mindflayer is still the main villain and just used Vecna as his chief pawn starting in the 1950s or whatever

Woah they actually did it. The first part is actually terrible so far. At least Finn looks good af this season

>>216200918
Yeah, but the theater universe is not canon to the Netflix verse. Although supposedly the CGI show they are making will be set in the theater universe.

>>216200868
El only sees Mike and Max in episode 3/9 but doesn't talk to them. she doesn't fully reunite with the others until literally the 8th episode of 9.

one of the things this show has benefited from is viewers essentially rewriting it in their memories to make it better than it actually is and that's what you've done. you just remembered El being lonely and expanded the one scene of her assuming Mike likes Max into a whole subplot because that would have been more interesting than what's actually in the show.

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>>216200846
lmao

>>216200945
>ENTER

>>216200944
What was the season where El meets a pajeta with her own powers that was the leader of a gang of outsiders?

>>216200945
Lucas' hairstyle looks so fucking jarring. It honestly distracts me everytime he's on screen.

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Couldn't they cover his Homer Simpson stubble at least?

>>216200967
2

>>216200945
What a fucking ugly cast. Zoomers age like milk

Okay, I'm going to say it, but I don't want this to come off weird, alright? Holly has great lips.

>>216200975
>why are you shooting my scenes first

>>216200280
a lame cope out

but he never had any defining characteristics beyond being the kidnapped gay kid of the team
so he's bidimensional now, like the nerd black kid who is a jock now

>>216200944
This is an incredibly common phenomenon with this show and you see it all over these threads and Xitter too. The gaps between seasons are so large and the characters do so little in every season that everyone just invents an alternate version of the show in their heads where the seasons are actually consequential and have a lot more meat to them than they actually do, rather than realizing half the reason the seasons are forgettable is not because they take so long to make but also because they genuinely had little of interest happening in them. Can anyone talk at length about what Will did in season 3, at all?

>>216200967
It was an episode in season 2, and it was clearly meant to set up some kind of spin-off, or at least have those awful, but fleshed out characters return likely multiple times
But the reaction was so bad that the Indian was never spoken of again until episode 4 of this season, like 8 years later
And there was an indian girl in the background during the Eleven flashback scenes in season 4, but she was not very prominent
It's honestly hilarious

>Holly is supposed to be 7
LMAO!

>>216201002
Well at least they worked her back into the show in a somewhat interesting way

>>216201022
No way, bro. No way. That girl is at least old enough to willingly go to an Epstein party.

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>drugging an entire family is heckin cool because it's a black girl doing it
is the audience really meant to sympathize with this? seems extremely cruel for no reason

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>tfw no bookworm daughter-wife cutie to bake you cakes in dreamland

>>216201022
She looks at least 12. And if her and Derek really are 7, how does everyone in the town hate Derek and know him? They all got beef with a 1st grader?

>>216201035
I was barely paying attention when that scene came out

this show has way too many characters and they added a fat kid now

>>216200990
I unironically don't remember who Holly is lol
watching this show on x1.5 speed and considering going to x2

>>216201049
Mike's little sister

>>216201049
Mike’s little sister. Was she in the early seasons? Not sure, it was 10 years ago since I watched season 1 in high school and I’m engaged now so whatever

>>216201035
When black people look at black children, do they also find them hideous?

>>216201036
I guess I should point out that the baking timer is a Rooster, aka Cock, and it is of course a countdown as she blissfully prepares for Henry's return

>>216200518
First of all, you are a flaming faggot like everybody else who likes season 4.

Second of all, the "running up that hill" scene isn't just awful because it popularized a garbage singer who was rightfully forgotten, it's stupid because Vecna acts like a retard who gives Max plenty of time to give him the run around in HIS DOMAIN instead of almost instantly killing her like he did with everyone else. Nobody was surprised by the music plot device if anything the characters took way too long to think of the obvious by which time Max should've been fucking dead.

Max's hangup towards Billy is also weird as fuck because it directly contradicts the end of season 3 where she has made peace with his passing a few months after his death. But I'm not shocked by this because season 4 regressed several other characters like Mike and company who had an entire plot line about growing out of shit like D&D which led to conflict with Will because he was essentially robbed of the chance to grow up as a normal kid but come season 4 they are back to being board game nerds because, uhh, fuck you that's why.

Oh yeah and you are still a flaming faggot. Eat shit and die.

>>216201036
>that dance
Come on now. You can't tell me these niggers aren't doing it on purpose. This is WRONG!

>>216200582
Is she the best kid actor? Everyone else seems to be phoning it in

>>216201074
>first paragraph
You're retarded
>second paragraph
Also stupid
>reddit spacing
Return from whence thou came

So who is dying besides Dustin?

>>216201099
Gaten is good, he just looks ugly

>>216201099
Sadie > Holly (as of now) = MBB > Mike > Dustin > Will > the black one

>>216201036
I don't know what Henry's plan is but if he stopped literally right here he would have won.

>>216196604
yo someone needs to edit this webm with visions of Palestinians being killed

>>216200642
Is that my wife Spine

>>216201120
>marry holly
>kill fat kid
>also marry max
>also marry el

flawless.

>>216201099
Sadie seems like the only one who wants to be a "real" actor and not a kid actor in a kid's show like all the boys, who behave like they're on nickelodeon
Millie is alright, but she gets to coast on being the baby yoda of the mid 2010s and doesn't really have to try
Finn can act, but not in this fucking show

>>216201106
Is he going to break one role curse?

>>216200428
>dustin
Intresting. That's almost exactly what happened with max, yet anons call that "slop"

Too many Holly posts :/

>>216200464
Retard

>>216201113
>acting skill = order anon would be dtf them

as always for these threads

>>216201103
>no response

Lol.

>no response

Lmao.

>no u

Learn what reddit spacing is redditor and then fuck off back to that shithole and take your faggotry with you.

>>216200689
Cool
Nice (You) chain, bro

>>216201148
Max was one of the only kid characters they took seriously in season 4 and they rewarded her by putting her in a coma and excluding her from the show until obviously bringing her back

>>216201113
Max > Holly > Dustin > Will > Mike > MBB > Lucas

>>216201141
>all the boys, who behave like they're on nickelodeon
that's really unfair on Nickelodeon. Avatar and Korra were both much more ambitious and mature than this

>>216201099
>being an actor on some netflix show when you could make as much money streaming what you like (as being an actor already puts you on the same tier as a prostitute)
can you blame them

Fuck Holly

>>216201150
no such thing

noah is such a terrible actor jfc

>>216200686
Will has been connected to the hivemind for years. Ever since the first takeover he was apart of it, feeling what they feel, seeing what they see, etc. Billy was also apart of the hivemind, but in his death scene he was able to break away from control because of the love he had for his mother. The smoke was literally still inside him, yet he was able to rebel and take control of his own body because he was strong enough to resist. Will is able to control those demogorguns in the same way. Blatently foreshadowed by the demo from the previous scene at the barn backing off because he wanted it to
Anons will call it an asspull, though, despite 5 season of him being deeply psychically tied to the hive

>>216200720
I like dustin
You're gay

>>216201223
SAAR!

>>216201255
didn't read :)

>>216201247
he's convincing as a gay jewish sleeper agent

what kind of sick fuck would kidnap holly

If you had to choose only one to raise as your daughter, who are your picking, Holly or Erica?

>>216201268
he resembles rosie o'donnell, so in fact you'd be the gay one for liking him

>>216201278
a /tv/ poster

>>216200780
Unironically microplastics in their ovaries
You're not safe either
You've got them in your balls right now

why did vecna just dip out after fingering will?

Tf is this thread moving so fast?You guy watch these slops?

>>216201278
To protect her from monsters? I'd do anything.

>>216201302
It’s the biggest show on TV

>>216201301
He saw the runtime and had to fuck off

>>216201302
I watch it on a second monitor while I Holly-post here.

>>216201182
No vision?

>>216200811
>people are evil and thus the writing is bad

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He should have gone through with it

>don't tell your little sister about the literal extra dimensional monsters that you know exist and have been personally fighting for years

I hope they at least told her not to accept rides from single men in vans.

>>216201325
>nice night for a walk

>>216201318
>unmotivated behavior is the same as being evil

the psychology of other humans is a terrifying mystery to me and that's the way I like it!

There's only ONE thing I don't understand. If Vecna's plan was to allow Will to get rescued in season one, then why did he keep trying to kill everyone who was trying to rescue him? And why didn't he just let him leave?

i've got no memory of who henry is

>>216201374
vecna

>>216200818
>he completely ignores 001 killing the soldiers with creative and flashy means such as, pulling the pins off their grenades, sending the fire back at the flame thrower, using his vine arm as a stabby whip
>he completely ignores the finale of s3, where El lost her powers completely and the monster was killed via fireworks and closing the gate
>he completely ignores El now able to launch herself two dozen feet into the air skillfully
It's like you guys deliberately ignore the creativity when it's there. Obviously the hand and scream move is the default because that's the bread and butter of the show, but holy shit you people really just want to do your absolute best to not enjoy things man
>this is fucking gay, El is just holding out her hand and crashing a helicopter. This is so stupid, she flipped a van? Fucking shit series. Boring.
Kill yourselves

holly better not get tentacled i will cry

Will's mom trying to drown herself alongside her daughter to protect themselves from getting mutilated/raped by a monster must be the darkest thing in this show so far, right?

>>216201398
they were hiding lol

>>216200847
>arbitrarily
El has personally killed several dozen government agents and soliders
>there's literally no reason for the glowies to want El, a literal government lab rat. Why are they hunting her down? Doesn't make sense that they want her. I just dont understand

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>>216201374
Doctor from El's memories. He was number 01 and El unknowingly turned him into Vecna all those years ago when she cast him to the shadow realm.

>>216201398
I meant Mike's mom.

It must be said that 10 years later and Mrs Wheeler is still a hottie.

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Is this really what marrying a jewish woman does to you?

So, I don't get it, is Henry using the Mindflayer or is the Mindflayer using Henry?

>>216201185
Imagine writing something this braindead

>>216201463
speaking from experience, yes
worst 9 hours of my life (don't ask)

>>216201283
everyone is gonna pick Holly, this isn't even a question

>>216201477
Why? Are they racist or something?

>>216201465
no one fucking cares, dude

>>216201394
she already did in Will's vision :(

>>216201301
Because he's an egotistical retard who holds grudges and he wants will to suffer, not to die. Same thing in s4. He could have killed El but didn't because he wanted her to watch max die first
A character being a retard is not bad writing, retard

So Vecna's plan this whole time was to wait for Holly to get old enough to marry her? What the fuck is this show. That's not only really creepy, but Vecna wasn't even a character a couple seasons ago. Holly was a glorified extra until now. And now suddenly both are central pieces of the plot.

I like Anthony from Sweeney Todd, he is a good character and a great singer

>>216201494
don't know if i've seen that part yet i'm not paying much attention but either way i'll have a cry why not

>>216201485
hopefully

>>216201317
No
Nancy, never had a vision in the show, ever. Dunno what that guy was talking about. It doesn't make sense that she knew it was a house

>>216201492
I do.

>>216201358
Explain how any of the examples that you, specifically, used were "unmotivated"
I'll wait

>>216201509
>Nancy, never had a vision in the show, ever
I don't remember last season, but in the first episode they mention Nancy had a vision of the future.

>>216201502
did you really expect them to stop introducing new stuff just because this is the last season? that would require them to have set up payoffs properly instead of just improvizing season-by-season. this isn't The Sopranos.

>>216201509
Vecna showed her stuff in season 4

Dipshit Derek is a good character and I won't hear anything to the contrary

>>216201538
It's delightful derek, you cunt

>>216201502
>So Vecna's plan this whole time was to wait for Holly to get old enough to marry her?
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>216201524
>mentioning the sopranos, of all things, in a conversation about good writing
Lmao

>>216201540
sorry Derek

>>216201552
Did you watch all the episodes yet?

>>216201564
Suck a fat one

>>216201568
yes, when was it ever inferred he’s gonna marry her?

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>>216201476
>worst 9 hours of my life (don't ask)
I'm asking.

>>216201521
if side characters are introduced, do something extremely evil, then essentially disappear, its unmotivated. the government agents in season 1 really just murder that diner owner because the show needed a hook in the first episode, then they become completely ineffectual until the finale. its standard bad writing.

this episode had a scene where the bully is scared by a snake in his locker to motivate the later scene where him and his buddies attack Gaten at the graveyard. he wasn't a cardboard cutout. to make up for it the show is poorly written in other areas.

Was necessary that Nancy told the doctors and police that her parents got attacked by a muslim who thought her mom wasn't modest and deserved to be honor killed? Couldn't have she said they got mauled by a pitbull or something?

I don’t know if people are just pretending to be retarded or if 4chan has gotten stupider, but it really isn’t a hard show to understand and yet some people still can’t.

>>216201584
Anon, that anon was shitposting

>>216201602
Speedwatching is a thing. That and looking at your phone every two seconds.

>>216201476
adult circumcision takes NINE HOURS?

>>216201597
If this season had been released during the summer of Floyd, there would have been a subplot of Lucas being wrongly accused of the attack. We dodged a bullet.

>11 does a 12 and a half minute run using her powers the whole time several times a day
>no worries
>uses her powers once to open a car door
>nose bleeds and she's out of energy
uh huh

Mike is way too chill about his parents almost dying

>>216201497
>it's 2025 and we're still doing Gilgamesh villains

>>216201618
>>216201602
people tend not to speedwatch as much if a show is actually good. just saying.

>>216201635
He's too chill about his sister potentially being dogmeat

>>216201633
Everything in this show is shitty plot devices with no consistency. The writers suck.

>>216201644
calling something bad when you “speedwatched” is so fucking retarded kek

>>216201635
everyone is way too chill about continuing to live next to the Hellmouth with their entire families including younger siblings. but that's been the case since season 1.

>>216201602
It's a little bit of people being retarded, a little bit of people being way too autistic and a little bit of people pretending to be retarded (they don't realize that there's virtually no difference between pretending and being in the context of an Anonymous image board)

I'd watch Miami Vice with Hop

>>216201654
I'm pretty sure I can follow the rich layered subtext of this show at 2x speed with subtitles thanks. it's not a really highbrow story like Harry Potter.

>>216201593
>then they become completely ineffectual
They are literally hunting down El for the entire first season and come close to capturing her multiple times. They're not "side characters". They're a primary antagonist for the main characters
You don't understand what bad writing is
The jocks that attacked dustin did so because of dustins behavior, which was made very clear. They "dissappeared" from the show because they got what they wanted by beating the shit out of him. Dustin getting attacked caused him to miss the crawl, prompting jon to have to go in his place and eventually causing will to do something after his mom made him look like a bitch, and also sowed strife between he and steve, who have had a very close relationship for most of the show. But go ahead and keep talking about how "there's no character drama" anymore and how the writing is bad because, "dustin getting beated up was pointless"
Fucking idiot

>>216201635
he's just autistic

>no new monster designs
>just demogorgon spam because they are recognizable

Mike and Nancy never even visited their dad while he’s in a coma. Poor Ted.

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>>216201588
>21st birthday
>go to vegas
>get hammered
>28 year old yid slag gets me to marry her at a drive thru chapel
>marriage is valid
>no proof of intoxication
>for nine hours spends my money exorbitantly, insists on a crazy honeymoon, paycheck comes in at midnight
>she files for divorce after nine hours
>gets half of my paycheck
>have to pay spousal support fees for a period of six months
>try to fight this legally
>have to subpoena the establishments i drank at
>her lawyer claims that just because i made the purchases that doesn't mean i drank them or was drunk during the wedding
>claims that the excessive spending mentally prepared her for a life of excess and comfort and stability and that when it was denied to her it was a terrible shock
>punitive damages added on to what i owe her
>expensive appeals
>wage garnishes
>takes three years to unfuck it
>sue her for damages
>only able to recover the half of my paycheck she took and a quarter of the spousal support
>she tried to claim we had an understanding of commingled assets and tried to take my car, computer equipment, and (she thought) expensive record collection
>now ten years later she's on a protection order and isn't allowed to contact me anymore
I'm glad it's over

>>216201584
Maybe I got it wrong then. I'm watching it on french, but I can't speak it, so I'm going by the visuals.

what was the point of the holly trying on different outfits scene

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>>216201677
>a really highbrow story like Harry Potter

>>216201699
Cute

>>216201699
because she wants to be a cleric and needs the right fit

>>216201699
Unironically fan service

>>216201685
Retard

>>216201685
You are massively retarded man

>>216201699
same point as the scene where she flops on the couch and almost shows up her dress
whimsy

>>216201685
you're super fucking retarded

>the devils anus opening up across town
>people are still fucking living there normally
There's suspension of disbelief and then there's that.

>>216201699
It's bad writing

Stop talking about Holly

>>216201685
You might be retarded but she sounds evil.

>>216201699
if the astroturfing about Vecna wanting to marry her is accurate it could be forshadowing.

>>216201714
>>216201715
>>216201724
>>216201731
What was he supposed to do, make perfect decisions while drunk?

>>216201726
I assumed by the s4 cliffhanger that everyone was gonna be evacuated. I had a good kek when I saw the kids skating over the fucking cover.

>>216201736
she's a little girl why would vecna want to marry her

>>216201685
didn't Sean Baker make a movie about you?

>>216201726
Did you not notice the convoy of people leaving the town at the end of s4? Many of them gtfo, but alot of them are not going to uproot their entire lives over an earthquake. Especially when you consider they're retarded and believe the government when they say that everything is le fine.
You ask why people still live there and say it's unrealistic
Nigga, people live in fucking tornado alley where their houses get lifted into the air every other fucking year in real goddamned life man. People live in dangerous places for no reason other than they're there
I guess real life has bad writing

>>216201745
Because he's a pedo. He was clearly trying to groom El last season too. And maybe Will as well.

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>visit /tv/ when (hot new thing) is airing
>'surely THIS time they won't all be a bunch of retarded pedophile faggots'
>
I mean really some of you just need to die.

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>>216201497
>Because he's an egotistical retard who holds grudges and he wants will to suffer
How does not hurting any of his friends and giving him super powers make him suffer?

>wheeler's get mauled by a demogorgon
>survive the 8 foot tall monster with blade hands slashing you across the neck and/or impaling you in the chest
Why does no one fucking die

>>216201745
idk it sounds fucking stupid to me.
but Vecna is already obviously planting visions to create problems so maybe he is luring her with stuff about being a princess. that could be PG-13 enough.

>>216201764
Because with great powers come great responsibility. Are you retarded?

>>216201750
There was red hellish energy fuming from the streets. That's an indication to leave the fucking town.

>>216201002
Season 2 was a rush job after the massive s1 success and Netflix wanted to keep momentum. It’s pretty obvious that ep was kind of a “monster of the week” filler to round out the contract; they just didn’t have enough plot or character development ideas so, hey, let’s send eleven out on an adventure that makes no sense. It was roundly criticized as out of place, people joking it wasn’t even canon and everyone should just forget it ever existed.
>>216201026
It why is pretty brilliant the Duffs turned it around into a serious finale plot point. It’s massive fuck you to the haters.

>>216201745
UuuuoooOOOOHHHHHHH levels are off the charts
>>216201753
But seriously, often times psychopaths dont develop mentally into adults. Alot of times they target kids because theyre internally kids themselves and are afraid subconsiously afraid to go after adults. Henry, specifically, showed max he was afraid of those caves. Something happened to him there that probably cause him to turn into a groomer (he got diddled)

>>216201782
Because Bob and Eddie already died to show the audience any character can die.

>>216201759
the holly pedos should kill themselves asap

>>216201787
"People" still live in new orleans today after huricane katrina

>>216201814
Maybe they shouldn't

>>216201807
You realize only the character is 7 but the actress is much older, right? Or you think lusting after El's curvy's body also makes you a pdf file just because her character is meant to be a teenager despite the actress being old enough to be married and have her own kids by now?

>>216201821
Bad in irl life writing

>>216201750
If you want to lean on realism, the government would never ever let anyone stay there.
That whole place would be massively locked down and not a "oh do not concern yourself citizen, carry on, please do not ask questions".

>>216201824
kill yourself pedo

>>216201782
>>216201804
you can tell the Duffers are annoyed they didn't anticipate the positive fan reaction to Eddie and pander to it by keeping him alive too, because they're making being sad about his death Gaten's whole thing.
it's literally the worst of both worlds.

>>216201833
>>216201750
the idea that they've been scoping out the military camp from a tower and used the portal dozens of times already without being caught is FUCKING HYSTERICAL.

The Will bullshit is so fucking retarded man. I already hated the show for turning into capeshit and now they just randomly get superpower out of nowhere. I hope they will at least kill him off later

>>216200556
California. That's where his job and his weed dealer are. No reason at all he'd stick around in Warzone: Hawkins

>>216201846
Yeah. You literally see a bunch of soldiers behind the truck as it enters the portal. How the fuck did no one see Hop? LMAO

>>216201833
What makes you say that? The government does not have their best interests at heart. Quarantining them to limit the spread of information to the outside world is as believable as forcibly relocating the entire town

>>216201851
>I hope they will at least kill him off later
The Duffs have been explicitly clear that they don't want to kill off any of the main characters. IIRC they even said this wasn't one of "those" kinds of shows and it's going to have a happy ending or something.

>>216201851
>out of nowhere
Didn't watch the show award
Gonna save you some time
You won't like the rest

>>216201685
This is what happens when the drinking age is 21. Adults that can’t handle their booze.

>>216201867
That's obviously bullshit, since when they had to kill Barb, Bob or Eddie they had no qualms pulling the trigger. This ain't a Disney movie, kid. Everyone can die here. They have already shown us that.

>>216201861
Before they don't have xray vision you moron he was in the truck behind a crate

>>216201846
I will remind you that Russians built an underground secret lab underneath the local mall

>>216201897
Sure, but they should have still seen him getting inside the truck. Harbour is like 6' 3" and fat.

>>216201900
>russians built the mall itself
>it's somehow a stretch to think they would simultaneously build a basement beneath it
I think all of the russia stuff is shit, but you guys are really reaching here

>>216201891
>This ain't a Disney movie, kid.
People died in those old Disney movies though.

>>216201917
>ignores the part where the recon tower told him when to get into the truck because no one was there
>>B-BUH THERE WERE SOLDIERS THERE
You are trying your hardest to dislike the show

I liked it.

>>216201941
We don't like tv shows on this board.
Please see yourself out

>>216201863
Locking up an entire town causes way more questions than "idk earthquake released swamp gas and the entire town had to evacuate".

>>216201939
the problem is that they're meant to have pulled this off an absurdly basic plan repeatedly without issue for months. it's just bad writing.

I assume the US military aren't going to need to be taken seriously for the rest of the season because otherwise its a huge fuckup.

Faggots complaining that Hawkins citizens don’t realize there a demonic supernatural force killing people, is like complaining no one in Santa Clara figured out vampires existed in The Lost Boys or there’s an underground mob hideout in Astoria’s Goonies. It literally a 80s movie trope then
Duffers are playing with. And anons on this board are fucking stupid. It’s not even good ragebait.

>>216201863
>Quarantining them to limit the spread of information to the outside world
anon people in the 1980s had telephones

anyway this isn't even given as the reason for life continuing as normal. the Duffers just ignore the issue because they're writing the show for people who watch very superficially.

>>216201981
They already shown that the flesh monsters are immune to bullets for whatever reason.
So they may aswell just be comedy relief tissue paper men.

>>216201762
So many Will flashbacks this season

>>216201999
>David Harbour takes an assault rifle to the upside down so that he can shoot any US military that discover him

makes sense. "death to America" - the Duffer brothers.

>>216201867
>>216201891
No it’s not. The first series came out at the height of Game of Thones and other series where every major character was expendable ad killed off for shock value. The Duffs are on the record in interviews saying they hated that and weren’t going chase that trend.

>>216202101
What a Chad.

>suddenly 11 can read peoples minds

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>convoy rolls into monster world
>everyone dead in 10 seconds

>>216202169
Hopper is alive ;)

/tv/ is a Steve board, right?

>>216202169
>military base isn't just built on both sides of the portal because... it just isn't okay?

>>216202193
No, we are Dustin and Erica board.

>>216202193
seems to be a holly board now

>obnoxious ugly black girl is... le super smart!

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So uh…how’s this kid’s family doing?
>inb4 still tied up in that barn with fabric over their heads

Is A Wrinkle in Time any good?

wtf holly don't go into the forest alone

>>216202345
It's fine Joyce is clearly planning to adopt him and raise him right.

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The Henry is a pedophile theory is getting popular. He might not be a literal pedo but he’s definitely a groomer and reading the replies under this tweet got me thinking. The grooming kids, “you were my first”, treating holly like a housewife, caressing will’s cheek, shoving pseudo tentacle penises down kids’ throats.
It could all be an allegory of child sexual abuse. Someone said that Henry is scared shitless of that cave because he got diddled in it.
Here’s my crack theory
>henry/vecna’s dad was molesting him
>he ended up becoming the quiet and socially awkward fucked up kid
>got revenge on his family by killing them all
>repeats the process of abuse to other kids, starting with will and eleven

Screencap this post

>how am i in here when i'm in a coma elsewhere?
*looks at camera*
>very reasonable question
>oops no time to answer that let's go!!
.....