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>>216309906I was disappointed to learn she’s a nepo baby
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>>216310042The only nepos in the cast are her and Maya, it's probably the least nepo cast of a major show
>>216310042Right, she'd have never made it if not for who her parents are, it's not that she's a perfect pretty princess
>https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRuz_49kTeu/?utm_source=ig_embed
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oh that massive cliffhanger of the giant upside down world rupture? we put a band aid on it. barely an inconvenience!
>>216309906I don't get it, its like they changed the show for season 5, the final season, to be some action-packed, 80s style, bang-bang affair.what happened to the character development. the whole this is phrenetic.
>>216310650Will, Dereck and Holly all got major character development in only 4 episodes
>>216310695>phrenetictoo phrenetic
Why are these threads so into Holly? She's an average actress.
>>216310844Because /tv/ has a pedo problem.
>>216309906>im gay!>exposition dump>exposition dump >exposition dump>im gay!>exposition dump>exposition dump >exposition dump>im gay!>exposition dump>exposition dump >exposition dump
>>216309906Halfway through ep 3>Season 5 is ok so far, not great, but ok>Can't believe such a paranoid, detail driven guy like Hopper would do something as retarded as leaving his Rambo knife in the wall when he knew the army was coming>Oh well, I wonder what bullshit they'll magic up to escape the Upside Down now>Cuts to classroom of 7th graders discussing wormholes >"Um, axtually Whitey..."Fuck. She's back.
I’m glad we’re talking about how sexy Holly isWe can’t all just ignore it .
Why are people getting so ridiculously angry when the implications of this scene are said loud? There is literally absurd levels of denial.
>>216310695>derekHow? Everyone but Holly just keeps having the same conversations they've been having since s1.
>>216311143>get molested as a kid >turn out gaydid you think this one through duffer bros....?
Should nancy go to town on eleven's crotch? I've always thought yes.
>Joyce asks how long until the drugs they fed Derek's family will take to kick in>Robin and Mike both babble about the variables, wasting screen time and being less interesting>Robin ends with a clear joke: "Yeah, what could go wrong, right?">Okay, conversation over>Lucas then follows up with "...except for everything?!"Are they writing this Rated R shit for 8 year olds? How could anyone write something like this? How could someone look over a script like this and give it a pass? How could someone film this and not cut it?holy fuck
>>216311188Don't even have to go that far. They are literally seething about even implying that it represents sexual abuse at all, going into all kinds of mental gymnastics how it is anything but.
>>216311244It's adults acting the parts of teens. It doesn't work in the slightest.
>>216311262It's like they missed the connotations of Alien. I don't think they meant it, they were just riffing on Xenos. I think it's that simple. They're just dumb.
>>216311199would rather see eleven from season 1-2 play with cute little holly
>>216311285That's the thing, that's not even an explanation. This writing is awful and shitty if you're writing a kid's show. It sucks if you're writing a show for or about teens, and it sucks if you're writing a show for adults.Following up your lazy cliche "what could go wrong" punchline with a character essentially just explaining the rhetorical question is inexplicable.
>>216311262well thats dumb it was always presented as akin to sexual abuse like in s2 where he says he felt it "touch him everywhere", this series intro they may as well have had one of the Duffers appear on screen and say "yeah this is rape".
>>216311188So holly is gay to? I guess dipshit derek's future as dicksucking derek is all but confirmed.
>>216311330That style of writing is the current Shitflix policy.
>>216309906Abortist whore
>>216311330Not disagreeing. I'm saying that's how it's always been in this show. It worked, kinda, when they were 12yos. Now they all look like college kids.The Duffers never advanced the writing. It's (part of) the reason the new season falls so flat. It's the same shit over and over again. The same discussions. The same dynamics. No one has changed at all. On top of that, they've got a serious case of sequelitis going on. Everything has to be bigger and badder, even if it doesn't make sense. 008 is going to be more powerful than 011 and Veckna, etc. Will's powers come right out of his ass.
What about the Stevester, brehs? Is he based? Yeah, I talk like this now, I also call Hopper the Hopperster, and the Mikester, makes me sound pretty damn badass, don't it?
>>216311038i muted every scene she was in, i did not listen to a single linei turned it off after the jeet showed up againdisgustingwhy are jews like this....
I think this pic is from the epilogue and I think eleven is dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBmR1Ot6538Millie looks gorgeous and young when she doesn't overdo the makeup
>>216311522She really does look cute, so why the fuck does she keep overdoing the makeup? It's like she wants people to make fun of her
>Demogorgon gets beat up like a Foot Clan ninja>It runs away like a bitch>Could have a cool scene where Steve makes an executive decision to drive through the big gate it just left>"HEY GUYS OK SO JUST BEAR WITH ME JUST IMAGINE GATES AS PEANUT BUTTER CANDY BARS"This is the worst written show in history and every single scene has dialogue this bad, there is no break
>>216311038Discussing wormholes in a high school physical class in nonsense. Unless it's presented as pure popsci, no student at that level will have the requisite foundation to properly explore the subject.>inb4 buttmad whitey
>>216311586Trying to look grown up. Common woman thing. Too much makeup in their youth trying to older. Too much makeup when they're older trying to look younger.
>>216311680That or maybe she just has a humiliation fetish and gets off on people denigrating her
>>216311669I was waiting for him to get a piece of paper and a pencil. No cap fr fr gang.
>>216311711She's desperate to appear mature. Married already (not a huge issue). Adopting a kid.
>>216311489plus Papa is alive and he's going to take his well deserved vacation at Hawaii thus the shirt
>>216310042>Her father, Mr. Toby Fisher, a New Zealander and environmental lawyer, and her mother, Laura Clarke, who is a former British diplomat, have supported her journey alongside her brother, Blake Fisher. Literally who???
>>216311857There's some fag in every thread claiming everyone is a nepobaby.
>>216309906The fuck happened?
>>216311489Probably true
>>216311522I've always wondered at what point she had the "Noah is obviously gayer than 7 guys fucking 6 guys with her husband" it was presumably before he actually came out.
I dislike Robin intensely. I don't care that she's a strong-willed woman (so are Joyce and Nancy). I don't care that she's a lesbian (my ex is a lesbian, I was her best man at the wedding). I don't care that the actress is a nepo baby. I dislike her because shes annoying and unfunny. She's like a younger, skinnier Melissa McCarthy in the worst ways
>>216311903Drugs? Ozempic? Or she chainsmokes like no one's business.
>>216311470>Will's powers come right out of his ass.To be fair it's very unclear wear the powers come from for any of them. I'd say being mentally connected to an incredibly powerful telepath throughout your developmental years is as good an origin as any. How did Eleven even get hers, her mom got high or something?
>>216311328I wouldn't turn it off. I just want Nancy to take on a proper big sister role and show eleven how to masturbate, and then eleven can pass it on, it'll be a nice heart warming inter-generational wisdom sharing kind of thing. But that opportunity was wasted now. Instead we just got more black people.
>>216311991Zero issues there. But where were they in S2/S3/S4? And he has total control of them out of nowhere.
>>216311939Of course, she knew the second before she decided to make him her best friend
>>216311903Bottom hasn't styled her hair and isnt wearing makeup. Less light means her skin looks duller
>>216311960>my ex is a lesbian, I was her best man at the weddingNow THIS is how you bait
>>216312022Autismo girl told him to believe in himself so he did
>>216312022>S2/S3/S4? And he has total control of them out of nowhereHe channels Vecna who he was nowhere near in those seasons. The closer Vecna is the more powerful he is but also the more exposed to danger Will is. And he used them at that moment because Mike put the idea in his head with the sorcerer talk and Robin inspired him or something. Its cheesy but not unexplained.
>>216311038She's an annoying caricature - loud sassy black woman. You know she's never in any real danger because of how they write her character too. She takes away all tension in the show with "comedic" moments and is just an annoying character.
>>216311408>We pissed away the final and grandest season of a beloved show on intentionally TikTok-user-ized writing that makes everyone sound like they've been huffing paint while suffering short term memory loss
>>216312063>maximum copiumlmao
>>216312085>nowhere near in those seasonsHe was always there, anon. That's the point. They show it in S4.
>>216311470>The Duffers never advanced the writing. It's (part of) the reason the new season falls so flatYeah the episodes are so long and yet it feels like so much time is wasted in the dialogue. Every character needs everything spelled out for them, even though they've been dealing with this shit for years. Like seriously no-one thought that this Mr Whatsit was Vecna? Mike seriously sitting there like>This guy you're talking to is imaginary, it's impossible for some guy to reach out and appear to you where no one else can see him! And monsters definitely aren't real, so don't worry!Like fucking put the pieces together, Christ. Or Robin being like >Hey Will... maybe you're like a receiver for Vecna's powers!>What? Huh? What the fuck could that possibly mean, given that I'm a nerd who's been in the AV Club since season 1 and also dealing with psychic shit for years. A receiver? Explain it to me like I'm 5 please!
>>216312087>She takes away all tension in the show with "comedic" moments and is just an annoying character.Oh i'm sure the writers think its "comedic" but in season 3 all she ever did was emasculate and humiliate all the boys and make them look like pussies while she was the bestest 10/10 Kween Boss.
>>216312125Not physically present at the time though whch is apparently what's needed to go full anime. In s2 he's straight out posessed in no position to do anythng, 3 you might have a point I've no idea whether the Mindflayer rather than Vecna would make a difference, s4 he's not even in Hawkins.
>Vecna directly murders every single soldier he comes across>The soldiers are completely powerless against him>They're like ants under Vecna's magnifying glass>Vecna just tosses Joyce aside (she lives)>He spares literally everybody who actually can stop him, knowing the demogorgans aren't invincible >He doesn't kill Will despite Will being the one who has a slight edge over him (he must know this)What did Vecna mean by this???
does vecna still have a dick?
>>216312190>(he must know this)he did not know this>Why doesn’t Vecna kidnap or kill Will in that moment?>Matt Duffer: You’ll see as it goes on, but he completely underestimates Will. He perceives him in the way that so many others have in his life, which is as weak, as nothing, as incapable of achieving anything great. So he completely underestimates him in that moment. Whether that’s going to happen again, you’ll have to watch Volume 2.>https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/stranger-things-5-explained-will-powers-return-of-eight-vecna-plan-1236592989/
>>216312022>But where were they in S2/S3/S4? Maybe he needed some kind of training, like the kids got in the institute place. Or maybe it took repeated "connections" for him to awaken them. Again we don't actually know what the process is for someone unlocking powers like Eleven's, it's not genetic and needs some kind of training, and seems to be related to MKUltra, but there aren't any actual rules. If any character in the show was going to awaken their own powers, Will is the obvious choice.>And he has total control of them out of nowhere.I wouldn't say total control, the way he kills them is exactly the same way Vecna killed his victims last season. Maybe he's doing the psychic equivalent of pressing the "kill" button that Vecna already has set up.
>niggers ITT complaining about Erica when quirk chungus xdd Robin exists to shit up every scene she's inMs. Wheeler is the hottestMike's actor fucking sucksThis is objective.
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>>216311596I hate these stupid monsters being literally bulletproof when the army is fighting them but magically they can be hurt when a character with a name hits them with a shovel or a broken bottle.
>>216312237Oh so Henry/Vecna is just a complete retard then? He should've seen this coming from a mile away, knowing that the people around Will are trying to KILL HIM. Even if he underestimates Will, he's gotta know the Demogorgans have fought these people, seeing he sent them over and one came back wounded and empty-handed
https://x.com/horror_fan234/status/1995631848995840180?s=46
>>216312317they have the "bulletproof vests aren't stab proof" logic
>>216312361the fuck is byler?
>>216312344>Oh so Henry/Vecna is just a complete retard then?This would make sense if he's an actual sociopath/psychopath, which he probably is seeing as he murdered his family.They tend to be pretty bad at long term strategy and bad at gambling, they don't process fear the same way normal people do which makes them bad at assessing risks. They tend to be good at in-the-moment emotional manipulation because they usually practice it, but they aren't masterminds.
>>216312438Will Byers, Mike Wheeler. The ship name is Byler.
>>216311960All of Robin’s dialogue is like >Erm… where the chungus is Vecna? Oh uhh oops… sorry for saying such bad words I’m a sorta awkward kinda girl haha
>>216312361>MOVIE AND TV SHOW LOVER | VIDEO GAME ENTHUSIAST | HORROR ENTHUSIAST | FILM STUDENT | STRANGER THINGS 5 V2 COMING DECEMBER 25TH | CREW MEMBER AT AMC>he/him, 23I don' think I've ever been so repulsed in my life you pathetic faggot kill yourself
>>216312485this is getting too abstract for me
>>216312176>s4 he's not even in HawkinsWhat's that to do with anything, anon?
>>216312493is there any character with good dialogue in s5? They even managed to crack the code and made Steve's writing so unlikable that it overpowers the Joe Keery charisma
>>216312242>Maybe he needed some kind of trainingThat's the thing, anon. If they had gone that route, it would be fine. Even good. There is a backbone to him retaining some juice after S1. It's the suddenly, out of nowhere, ability to use the powers full tilt with total control.
>>216312493I genuinely don't remember what she was like before this newest season but she is by far the worst character this time around.
>>216312524he doesn't feel the connection to the UD at all when he's out of town. He specifically states he only felt the itching when they got back and the gates were about to open when he's talking to Mike.
They actually tied the fat kids hands up for real and probably re-shot the scene multiple times. His hands turned blue. Pretty sadistic.
>>216312493I feel like she was more normal in Season 3 and got more Flanderized. She had moments of excited, quirky girl because they were uncovering a mystery and it was fun, but now she's just like that all the time.She's also just way too comfortable talking about gay stuff with Will in echoey tunnels 10 feet away from a bunch of people she isn't "out" to. It's still the 80's and they're in a small town in Indiana, she should be hiding that shit at all costs.
>>216312565S4 and S5 Robin are the same, she just has more dialogue in 5I don't know what the fuck happened after 3, where she was really good.
>it's another "El & Jim argue about some dumb ass shit" sceneliterally the greatest torture put to screen
>>216312582Not their fault he's a fat fuck
>>216312493I liked her in her debut season, it was season 4 that ruined her like that. Especially when they were joking around in the upside down. Remember in season 1 where every moment in that world was hell, everything was going to kill you and you shouldn't even breath the fucking air? Well let's skip around cracking erm awkward jokes instead tee hee
This season is such a fucking disappointment, not that I was expecting a masterpiece but so far it's the worst season and it's not even close. All the normies just forgot about how shitty is because of the last 5 minutes.
>We gotta make sure to have all the soldiers have resting bitch face and say mean things so the audience doesn't think about Eleven's body count now that "emotionally retarded child tantrum" can't excuse itWRITE ONE SCENE THAT DOESN'T SUCKI BEG YOUPLEASE
>>216312595She became too quirky chungusIn s3 her dialog was specifically written as slightly flirty banter with steve. That aspect went away with the end of s3 and we were left with an annoying dyke bitch
>>216312645Eleven has been mass murdering people without flinching since season 1, you should be used to it by now
>>216312624Every decision they've made so far the last 2 seasons has convinced me more and more it'd have been better if he died in s3. They just keep repeating the same tired protective father who occasionally tries to commit suicide story arc.
>>216312693I agreeThere were two ways for his character to go that could have been intresting>dies. Now El is alone again.>survives via entering the upside down. Returns in s4 and is full schizo after what he's seen and done in there to survive for a year
>>216312493She's been super flanderized this season. It definitely gets pretty grating. I think Jonathan has been the most egregious example of true character assassination, though.
>>216312693Agreed, he just feels like an anchor stopping other characters from developing while also not developing
>>216312624>it's another "El & Jim argue about some dumb ass shit" sceneYeah the overprotective father thing is wearing thin, at this point he's way more vulnerable than she is, and holding her back is putting everyone in more danger. She's the hero of this story, keeping her on the sidelines while he stumbles about in the dark is going to get everyone killed.
>>216312569The powers are from the UD, then they'd be everywhere since El's work everywhere.
>>216312595I think she and Steve were originally intended to be a thing, then the actress convinced them to make her gay. Now they don't really know what to do with her.
>>216309906Did they ever explain why they where using a stupid fucking grid to search the upside down? That's not how tracking or looking for anything works. You hit key points where he's most likely to be first, or maybe try and track the soldiers that are constantly going in? How could they have been there 37 times and not seen either the giant wall or the huge fucking military base?
>>216312671the government is such an undercooked antagonist group I really hope they aren't still a thing after Sorcerer. It's crazy how Jim will stuff the unconscious non-combatant scientist into a locker using him as bait to get shot a dozen times by his comrades, but then he won't just finish off the sergeant leaving him barely tied up so he can warn the lab for an action sequence. and then he doesn't finish off Dr. Kay either so she can probably show up again in volume 2
>>216312813Eleven powers are from herself, it's irrelevant where she is
>>216310650It did the classic 80's thing of starting as a slow-burn horror and becoming more of a horror themed action comedy with each sequel
>>216312693>>216312756I like Hopper and El's relationship dynamic so it doesn't really bother me when the throw it in the mix. Plus, it seems to me Hopper is coming to accept he can't protect her the way he's always tried to anymore. It's like a loose parallel with Joyce and Will. Definitely doesn't bother me.
>>216312813>https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/stranger-things-5-explained-will-powers-return-of-eight-vecna-plan-1236592989/>: It’s different in that he’s able to channel Vecna’s powers. But they’re all related. Vecna and Eleven, their powers are similar. The powers aren’t within him. He’s able to channel these powers from Vecna and use it, sort of puppeteering.>He taps into the hive mind, and then he can manipulate anything within the hive. You’ll see how far he can take it as you continue to watch. But that’s how he’s able to manipulate the monster. So he can’t open a door, because the door is not part of the hive mind.His don't they explain his powers in this they're proximity based to the hive mind located in Hawkins. Moving him to California was actually the right call on Joyces part
>>216312895If they're from herself, getting bit by the mindflayer thing wouldn't have sapped them. I don't blame you, man. The lore is a mess.
>>216312865Why do people keep whining about the scientist? He was willingly working for these black ops glowies and probably experimenting and torturing the pajeeta. And he looked EXTREMELY jewish. He deserved to die as much as any villain on the show, if not more so.
>>216312929>the door is not part of the hive mind.They literally state the Vecna can open the door to take victims. This isn't an explanation, man. It's Lost-tier fanwank from the writers.
>>216312946it's just if he's willing to do that with an incapacitated non-combatant, why would he spare Sergeant Ramirez or Dr. Kay
>Yet ANOTHER scene of Steve being a whiny douche to Dustin, who treats him with equal contemptWhat the fuck happened to this show?
>>216312946>torturing the pajeetabased, GO HOME
>>216312936I think she was just traumatized and went too far with her powers and was depleted, the bite didn't help, maybe it "absorbed" her powers. But yeah, the Duffers are always making shit up, so who knows?
>>216312693The majority of characters in this show have not changed or developed since at least season 2. >MikeHas a relationship with Eleven that has barely been explored past season 3, has pretty much done nothing exceptional or important since season 1. >NancyHasn't changed as a character at all since season 1, she still likes guns and solves mysteries >Jonathan Does nothing at all >JoyceBecame Hopper's sidekick in whatever wacky adventures he goes on now that he's an action hero character>SteveAs a character is still the same as he was at the end of his season 1 redemption arc. the cool guy who fights the monsters>WillDivorced from the main cast in the first 2 seasons, background fodder for the whole show until this season>ElevenHolds her hand out and screams while fighting the bad guy in every season
>>216312969Unless I read it wrong that's because Vecna and Eleven both have innate powers to open the door, Vecna and Will also share access to the Hive mind he got through the Mind Flayer. So Vecna has 2 sets of powers technically I guess
>>216312984The Sergeant was like one of his brothers or something, waiting for Charlie in the jungle, the smell of napalm, etc. He was practically sucking his dick when talking to Eleven about questioning him.Dr. Kay because Jimbo doesn't kill women.
My based gun loving, Republican voting trad wife!
>>216313113she gives me padme vibes
>>216313015The only ones who have changed a lot are Max, Lucas, Dustin and Hopper
>>216313113you've not watched past season 2 have you? This women is definitely getting at least a minor in gender studies in college.
>>216313148Wrong version of the game, first of all. Second of all how fucking rich is this kid's family to afford an arcade machine in his room? Why are they living in a small Midwestern town instead of Beverly Hills?
>>216313148Bro had the NES expansion pack with those SNES/Arcade graphics
>>216313148Love this little chud
>>216313153>Lucas got a girlfriend in s2... Started liking basketball I guess?>Hopper depressed dad in s2... I mean I guess he lost his job since that
>>216313191That's still more than anything you can say for Mike or Will
>>216312985>Yet ANOTHER scene of Dustin being a whiny douche to Steve, who treats him with exasperated contemptFix'd. Dustin is the one starting shit.
>>216313049Jim is just a jobber, he left the knife in the flesh wall and spared the Sergeant with easily-untangled rope within walking distance of the lab. it feels really forced like they know this storyline with El/Jim is kind of boring so they lazily slap in an action scene. it was annoying when Dr. Kay had Jim in the tentacle and she was doing this really shitty cliche monologue, and then instead of distracting her by saying something to pique her interest he says like "Fuck you!" as if he's begging for her to have the tentacle choke him out.you can say well he's not a super competent action hero, he's a bumbling sheriff. but I don't think that's what they were going for it's not trying to tell us more about Jim's character and it's more like a cliche storyline just slogging through the expected plot beats. I haven't liked Jim's storylines for a long time which is unfortunate
All I know is that Lonnie deserves an apology from Joyce
>>216313113>upper class daddy's princess that gets straight As>even looking at a poor freak like Jonathan>she learns how to shoot a gun while he doesn't know how to hold one>still a couple after like 3 years>Jonathan, who has NOT ONCE done anything particularly heroic in 5 seasons>all he's done is tag along while other members of whatever group he happens to be in do the heroic shitName ONE significant thing he's done on any season, including this one
>>216310085I guess they didn’t want to pay both girls cause it’s not like Nell is more experienced than them Also reminder that only 4 years have passed in Hawkins since s1…
>>216313204I mean Will had a whole gay acceptance arc and got magic powers that last one alone is probably the biggest development of any of the 4 main boys
Joe Keery plays Not!Steve in a new Neesoncore film.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgwpL2trC3w
>>216313043Like I said, very wanky, anon.
>>216312985Dustin is sulky and lashing out because of Eddie's death. Steve is just responding to Dustin's change in attitude. This is almost explicitly spelled out in the show.
>>216313271What happened to this guy, how did he become the king of shitty movies? You were in Schindler's List, have some dignity
>>216313249Ass faggotry is not character development goy slave
>>216313249Only happened after 10 years of nothing
>>216312595They turned into a Big Bang Dyke. The kiss of death.
hey this was the bar they're meant to go to in the epilogue. No 11 still... Or Jonathan
>>216313307still more development than 90% of the characters have got in that time
Do you think they're going to bring back Eddie as "Kas the Bloody-Handed"? I don't really think it's a good idea, but that seems to be what Dustin's little arc is building towards.
>>216313229i absolutely would go to bat for S1 Jonathan, his stress with Will being missing and his mom seemingly going insane was handled so believably; love the moment when they find Will's "body" and he has to deal with his mom claiming it was fake. Nancy and Jonathan discovering the truth together was a fun plot beat to see unfold. He felt important and relevant and the acting was so good. The only good thing he's gotten past S1 is he'll occasionally have a nice brother moment with Will and he had 1 good moment with Nancy in S3, where she's like oh we'll just find a new job and he was like wtf Nancy unlike you my family really needs money I can't afford doing this bullshit with you
>>216313390>I would go to bat for S1 Jonathananybody would go to bat for S1 anybody, it's almost perfect television
>>216313390Jonathan has been raped harder than any other character in this show as far as I'm concerned. He did nothing in S4 except drive around and be a pothead and now in S5 he's still obsessed with Nancy who clearly doesn't want to be with him and antagonizing Steve while his brother is going through yet another mental crisis. Complete reversal of who he was in S1.
>>216313390More proof that this show should've ended after the first season. Every character has an actual purpose in that season whereas now the writers have absolutely no idea what to do with any of them anymore.
>>216313449The show is objectively mediocre now and it's more beloved than ever. I don't really understand it. It's so obvious that season 1 was the only truly good season
>>216313377I think that would be jumping the shark at a level too extreme even for season 5 of Stranger Things
>>216313229Oh yeah she's dating him irl.
>>216313377>Do you think they're going to bring back EddieI remember reading somewhere that they didn't expect the character to be so popular, and were looking at ways to bring him back after Season 4. Honestly I think he should stay dead, but he deserved a cooler death.
>>216313449It got too popular for its own good, S2 was supposed to be a completely new story with a different cast.
>>216313495I didn't even like season 4 much but compared to this season it was a million times better. At least you actually cared about what was going on with Vecna and trying to see if they would catch Eddie. Now he's dead and almost every character does nothing interesting and it's just lame as fuck
>>216313470I disagree. Season 1 was incredible, but Season 4 was still very good. It had every single hallmark of the dogshit issues that have plagued 2-5, but they at the very least managed to contain their retardation enough to make it enjoyable and fun. Vecna's Curse, the satanic panic lynch squad, Eddie Munsen, Max's storyline, it's all good stuff. Even the atrocious unnecessary Russia subplot was made somewhat palatable because it seemed like they were actually committing with their stupid idea (it didn't look like disney channel shit like the S3 Russia stuff)
>>216313510For real? Stranger Things was gonna be an anthology series?
>>216313446I like Steve but he has cannibalized every thing Jonathan may have gotten, a part of me wonders if it would have been better to cut half the cast and have characters like Will & Jonathan just be given Dustin & Steve's storylines
>>216313555Yes.
>>216313476I think so too, but Dustin's small arc (if you can really call it that) is very clearly leading up to something and the arc in question kicked off because of Eddie's death. I don't know much about DnD but I've heard people say there are other similarities between Kas and Eddie as well. >>216313495They could have handled it a little better, but I didn't mind his death so much. I think he should have gotten more screentime and more of an arc, though. I rewatched S4 before S5 came out and I forgot how little Eddie is really even in it. He's just sitting around for half the show.
>>216313555When they originally pitched the idea they said it could be an ongoing franchise either as an anthology or continuous series. Obviously they went with continuous I don't think that necessarily a mistake since the one time they tried something with a mostly new cast we got season 2 episode 7.
>>216313551Season 3 really did feel like a Disney Channel movie kek
>>216313470it peaked hard with S1, but the show is still very fun to watch
>>216313617True, probably would've been like True Detective but worse.
>>216313551>(it didn't look like disney channel shit like the S3 Russia stuff)I personally didn't mind the silliness that S3 got in to. The series was always trying to replicate 80's movies, and it nailed that feeling. Movie franchises always get goofier the longer they go on, so seeing Steve running around a brightly lit 80's mall trying to solve a Russian espionage plot was pretty on point. Also the Terminator-coded Russian dude that kept kicking Hop's ass. Not really scary anymore, but still fun.
>>216313495>deserved a cooler deathhe deserved to just not die, especially in a way that was really pointless
bros was holly in the earlier seasons?? I don't remember her making my pp so hard..
>>216313586>is very clearly leading up to somethingI'm pretty sure its accepting grief and his guilt not supernatural stuff. Everyone seems to be learning a lesson this season like it's OK to be gay, you have to let your kids live independent lives etc.
>>216309906Rewatching this show now has got me wanting to train up some loras, and make some Billy x Mrs. Wheeler NTR.
>>216313637I mean I still watch it, I'm just bothered that everyone casually accepts that it will never be above average again when we know from season 1 it very much could be if they just took the time to develop the characters instead of the Duffers trying to one-up their favorite 80s movies all the time and make this big fucking empty spectacle all the time
>>216311903The wall, she was 18 at the top and is 28 at the bottom
>>216313557Steve hasn't really had good storyline's either, then kid needs to get a girlfriend and learn some useful skills. Seems like he always ends up losing.And Jonathan just seems like "Will's brother and Nancy's boyfriend", he was always shy and withdrawn but now it's like he doesn't exist outside of his relationships. He's become so empty.
>>216313674Different actress
>>216313653>Yeah, bro I heckin LOVE nostalgia! That assassin dude in S3 was like...like the TERMINATOR man!>No I don't actually care how good the show is, who cares lol >Franchises always get goofier man why would you want things to not get worseFucking kill yourselfI hate that I have to live in a world where S3 is middle-of-the-road quality because the Flayed stuff manages to elevate it above the awful-on-all-fronts S2 and the worst dialogue in TV history S5
>>216313676>I'm pretty sure its accepting grief and his guilt not supernatural stuff.Yes but these themes are usually explored through the major problems in the show. The "kids living independent lives" and the gay thing are explored through Will and his connection to the hivemind, for example.
>>216313655there was so many ways to write the scene, I don't know why they wrote it like that make the scene more tense have him go out saving Dustin do something. I don't even know what happened to the demobats
>>216313716I thought S3 was a step up from S2 and was better than S4. I never understood why it was so divisive.
>Really annoyed at the way the Demogorgon was treated in Season 4 because it made one of the coolest original movie monsters into a joke>mfw S5
>>216313716Sometimes it's good when things are fun, I don't know what to tell you man.
Pedos in here lusting over a 7 year old girl, disgusting animals need to be burned alive
>>216313702Chrissy was supposed to be his girlfriend but they changed it.
>>216313811they're actually pretty quiet at the moment. don't know if there was a mass banning or someone set up a discord.
>>216310327I want a quirky chungus gf and nothing you say will convince me otherwise.
>>216310327i love robin again
robin and that little fanta head better have an extended sex scene
THIS SUMMER
>>216311960>my ex is a lesbianlmao no surprises here
>>216313321The person who wrote this tweet is retarded.>GeorguaOkay, typo.>are all reported to be their>to be their>theirTheir what?
>>216313811*14 and [age-of-consent-in Europe-map.png]
>>216313945>Kali: uh guys you forgot about me again!
>>216313176>>216313178He's playing MAME, retards.
>Four entire episodes of joyless misery with worst of all time character writing and lazy narrative>30 seconds of cool where Sorceror Will Vecnas the demoswasn't worth it
>>216313811it doesn't count the same if it's F/f
>>216313811The character is 7 but the actress is currently 14, probably 13 during filming. So it's kind of a double pedo sword because character age and actor age are both too young. Either way, pedos in her still lusting after a girl who is most definitely not fully sexually developedAll of you "Hollyposters" need to turn yourselves in, I am concerned for any young girls who you may have access to, you fucking predator creeps
Will Byers you horny little pervert
>>216313989This could have been boiled down to two 40 minute episodes. So much time wasted. Robin literally repeated her entire coming out story from season 3, I've already heard this fucking story get to the plot already!
>>216314069faggots are so gross
>>216313989Why did Vecna just leave the main characters alive but he killed all the army guys
>>216314161Army guys dont have any plot armor. Just like how the demigorg didnt even attack any of the main characters in the home alone booby trap house.
>>216314161The main characters didn't have guns, and he doesn't consider them threats. El is the only one he'd bother paying attention to, even Will he only talked to because he wanted to mock him. To him everyone else is just El's non-powered support cast, without her they're useless.
Why are the army people bad again?
>>216314039>The character is 710
>>216314039They up-aged the character to "between 9 and 10", which was the description given to the kids the military took.I don't think anyone told the 14 year old actress, though, because she acts like she's 5.
>>216314039>13/14>not sexually developedI'm not defending perves who are in their 20s+ lusting, but that's the age development happens.
>>216314288>Developedis not the same as>DevelopingThe process has begun but not completed. She's still a child.
>>216314216He's not the Predator retard
>>216314161>Why did Vecna just leave the main characters alive but he killed all the army guysWhy didn't Vecna just move to another town after he got beat the first time?
>>216314309No, it has completed. It's why girls can get pregnant at that age.
>>216314216why are they such a nonthreat even though they nearly killed him last season, and it was weird how we had that quick moment where Lucas wonders why they didn't finish off the Wheeler parents and how he never takes half-measures. it's like the writing wants you to wonder why he's selectively sparing. but obviously in the climax of Sorcerer he flat out tries to kill Mike, Lucas and Robin which again makes you wonder ok why are you killing them now
>>216314367>it has completed. It's why girls can get pregnant at that age.Pedos are so fucking retarded lmao
>>216314216>He doesn't consider them threatsThey are actually the only people who have ever been a threat to him his entire life>b-b-but he's arrogantyeah nobody with a brain can stretch their disbelief as hard as the duffers want them to
>>216310262yup I'd bust a hot one in finn's mouth
>>216314340He's not a perfect killing machine either, he's just some guy with superpowers. He'd rather flex and brag than take out every potential threat, it's not that difficult. Kill the guys with guns and get back through the portal before Eleven, the real threat, shows up.
What’s this expression called?
>>216314248US government bad REEEEE
>>216314397Eleven is the only one that's been a threat to him, and she wasn't there. Every season ends with her foiling him, he probably isn't aware of the whole mystery inc. support they're all bringing to the table, or doesn't care. No guns, no powers, not wasting time on them.
>>216314420?i haven't slept in 37 hours and cocaine is the only thing keeping me upright
Is there any chance of Byler happening?
>>216314440Nancy's group is the main people that nearly killed him last season. And he very dramatically tries to kill Mike Lucas and Robin at the end of the episode so it's not like he just doesn't care at all. He'll do things like walk up behind a disabled soldier and skewer his face, but then with Joyce he gently wafts her away. People definitely are not wrong to point this out
>>216314482Slay
>>216311287Hollyheads are sure to be well-sated with content for the next four years!/ourgirl/'s raw talent and beauty guarantee many roles to come!
>>216314482No, Robin has already brought up the story of her liking a straight girl and having to get over it, which is something we already knew and so didn't need to be repeated, they're setting up Will letting go of his crush on Mike and moving on.
in real life will would troon and shoot up a school
>>216314420>WHAT'S THIS>WHAT'S THIS?>THERE'S BLONDE DYE IN THE HAAAIR
>>216314528that should be the death nail in the couple, it was basically the show telling Will to move on (romantically). but this show is so hairbrained I absolutely can see them doing the epilogue after 11's death that hints Mike and Will started dating. and then we'll have to suffer through people telling us we didn't see it coming because of our latent homophobia, even though Mike has never once shown any romantic interest in Will.
just finished watching the latest epsso the lesson is that accepting the fact that youre gay will unlock your superpower or some shi?
>>216314367No, it hasn't completed. That's why little girls look different from grown women, even after puberty has started. And the mortality rate is way higher for minors who give birth, every year closer to 18 increases the success rate.
>>216314508Yeah fair enough, at a certain point it does just look like plot armor. There could be another reason, like maybe he needs them for something. Maybe the demogorgons were going to drag them into the upside down rather than kill them when Will stopped them. But I'm just guessing, it's probably just sloppy writing.
>Final season>The sheer amount of time we're wasting on the dyke Robin subplot and the gay Will subplotthe twitter troons who begged for this shit and cheered for it in S3, S4, and now S5 make me sick because it's clogging up this fucking show but they don't care as long as they get their erotic fantasies supported
>>216314668>at a certain point it does just look like plot armorAre you being serious? Of course its plot armour. Its not that deep bro. Same reason the terminator tosses john connor around multiple times instead of just immediately snapping his neck/heart/brain in salvation.
>>216314390Pedo is lusting after someone too young to get pregnant or get someone pregnant. That's quite literally what the word means. Trying to obfuscate the definition is a back-handed attempt to legitimize actual pedophelia.
>>216314600I guess it's never completed. That's why 70yos look different than 20yos. Learn biology, kid. They teach it in school, or they used to.
>>216314687we had a scene of Lucas wondering out loud why the demogorgons (controlled by Vecna) didn't kill Karin and Ted why would they point that out
>>216314482No. Robin’s speech to Will made it obvious for everybody with a brain.
>>216314809It's going to turn out Karen and Ted bullied Henry in school. You watch.
>Delightful Derek's laugh when his dad hits the ground
>>216314592would be hilarious if true
holly is amazing, she may just save this show
>>216314915She already has
>>216309906I WANT TO FUCK BOTH ROBIN AND STEVE IN THEIR ICE CREAM UNIFORMS!I WANT TO BEND THEM OVER ON A TABLE IN THE ICE CREAM PARLOR AND TAKE TURNS FUCKING THEIR HOLES!I WANT TO FILL THEM BOTH TO THE BRIM WITH CUM AND THEN I WILL MAKE THEM MAKE ME A STRAWBERRY MILKSHAKE!!!
>>216313965Saar please redeem the indian girl saaar
>>216314248Top Goy ahh comment.
>>216314931>>216314915I finished for her several times during the episodes, she’s perfect.
>>216314854max sees a flyer that says henry is staring in a play on november 6th, which is the same day will died. and earlier in the season Lucas has dialogue where he talks about how all this started on november 6th.if it turns out his main motivation is he got bullied at a play that will be so gay
I had no idea High School life was so rough in the 80s.
>>216314915i want to punch holly in her stupid face. ugly cleft lip having bitch
>>216314915i want to **** holly in her stupid face. ugly cleft lip having bitch
>>216315133i’m 35 and she looks older than me herelmao they’ve gotta be kidding with this
>>216315158I want to **** her face too anon, but we need to be more gentle with her at first
>>216315146
>>216315158i too want to **** holly in her face
>>216315133that a lot of benzos sir
>>216315133In season 1 the upside down was toxic. Maybe this is what it does to your skin. Nancy looks old as fuck too.
>The year is 2007>"Hey Steve, remember me? Its Robin! How ya been? Me? Oh, well, I guess it really was just a phase I was going through. I still think about you...so uh, you seeing anybody?
>>216313892>>216313916She'd act like that around your kid btw
>>216315277What a rough 27 that is
>>216315277in 2007 she'd be 39
>>216310327Thats the look of someone who knows whats happening to the kids in those trailers back there, and she's worried that you might ask her if she knows where those kids are. She's hoping her quirky little dance will mentally distract you long enough for her to pass by without you asking.
>>216315357So she looks her age?
>>216315364>>216311525she could unironically play Bonnie Blue lol
>>216309906I wonder why she doesn't keep the Robin hairdo, since it really suits her face.
First for Debbie.
>>216313892I've never actually met a "quirk chungus" in real life. Most women under the age of 60 who I meet range from "irritable bitchy" to "flat affect with a hint of bitchy," or the occasional "insincere polite with bitchiness boiling just beneath the surface." They're like the female himbo, somebody who only really exists in fiction.
Hopper has coldly killed like 15 Army guys at this point. Now he has the evil Dr Kay subdued, the highest authority at the military base, and the one whose been hunting El for years, but he just knocks her out?This soft modern feminist writing wont let him blow her brains out even though thats exactly what his character would do.
>>216315662>even though thats exactly what his character would do.None of these characters make any sense, schizo
I don't understand people complaining about their agesWe used to have 30-year-olds play high school students back in the day
>>216315719Did these shows were nostalgia bait and lasted for 10 years ?
>>216315662>the one whose been hunting El for yearsHas she? I legitimately thought she was just the new villain of the week. I don't remember her character at all in previous seaons.
>>216315118>staring in a play on november 6thOh shit I didn't see the date. I hope that's not what they're doing.
>>216315719From the start. I mean, if they were going to do a time jump, why not just make it 1990 or so?Anyway, it's all going to be retconned anyway. Wormholes and BTTF references says time travel, which says everyone is coming back and it's all for nothing.
Why are Hop and El just okay with casually murdering people now
>>216315826El always was. She killed all kinds of people in S1.
>>216315826They always have been. Maybe less so El, but she's still comfortable doing it. It's the inconsistency that bothers me, not the killing.
>>216315791>when that tentacle cervix penetration hits
>>216315863>Maybe less so ElLol.
>>216315849>Test tube baby with little to no control over powers and emotions>Doubtful that when she mangled the brains of the Hawkins goons in the finale of S1 she had much of a choice whether she killed them or notyeah clearly the same as knowingly deliberately snapping somebody's neck
>>216315881>shown to scramble brains and snap necks all season>durr, we don't know if she meant to do itOf all the things to complain about, you should shit that actually makes sense for the character. El is a borderline sociopath, which makes sense considering she grew up in a lab.
What the actual fuck
>>216315746>I don't remember her character at all in previous seasons.She wasn't, but theres a 19 month time skip between season 4 and 5. Presumably she's been the one in charge for most of that time.
>you're the brightest of them allVecna wants to use the kids as batteries, I guess. Holly has the most power.
>>216315878Slightly less so. And only really before S4.
If they hadn't done that flashback I would've legitimately thought this was a boy.puke.jpg
>>216315769To keep the show in the 80s from beginning to end. I wouldn't be surprised if the finale is NYE 1989
>>216315968They really got upset nobody liked the "El joins a gang of ethnic losers for no reason" subplot huh
>>216314116I think it's cute :3
>>216315881>yeah clearly the same as knowingly deliberately snapping somebody's neckit's ok, she apologized for it
>>216315964El has never been shown to have any issues killing people or have any remorse for her actions
>>216315968Is there anyone that's actually happy about this? They really should have just pretended this character never existed.
>>216311733I'm like 90% sure he did that in season 1
>>216316017Saar they made me rea happy i will watch all starnger things episodes now
>>216312409named characters can hurt them with bullets, though. Hop killed one in one shot with a pistol in season 4
>>216314248they somehow still think 11 is behind everything even after all this time
>>216315719half the kids in my grade looked older than them
>>216316005Pretty sure she starts to show some concern and remorse when she gets tangled up with the pajeet's gang in S2 unless I'm misremembering. I guess what I should be saying is, up until S4, every time she ostensibly killed people it was usually kind of impulsive and from a sense of self preservation/preservation of others, like the van flipping scene in S1. That's how I remember it, anyway. Now she's just just snapping necks without flinching.
>>216311903Eyeliner and better lighting in the first pic. That’s 90% of the difference, she’s always been mid.
>>216316046i'm pretty sure that was a demodog
>>216316032>implyingHolly would have brought that crowd in more than the poojeeta
>>216314599I guarantee that they were going to use Mike's speech about Will being a sorcerer as the flashback but some exec said to replace it with the gay shit at the last second
I have no issue with the actor's ages in S5 because with the setting and the way they're presented I can just pretend they're supposed to be young adultsS4 is where it's off-putting because they're trying to put lipstick on a pig and make these young men look like kids
>>216316017The Psychic Antifa gang in Chicago was one of the weakest subplots of the entire series. I don't even remember what the point of it was, they found them, and then they left.
>>216315662my wife is a feminist but even she was screaming for her beloved Hop to blast that bitch's brains out.
>>216315662I barely remember the black military villain too or what his motive is
>>216316102Difference between killing the people coming after and trying to kill you and regular folk. The army is fair game.
>>216316102she was always very cold I also remember that scene in S1 where when they're in the school she gave like 10 of Brenner's men an aneurysm or something, they started bleeding from the eyes and nose. I don't think this show wants killing as a moral quandary it's just something she needs to do
>>216316157They exist to show how virtuous the show writers are.
>>216316157It was meant to set up a spinoff but the episode was a total dud so it was scrubbed. That's my take.
Is she the same age as Winona?
>>216316161it's going to be so annoying when the military is still an antagonist in the 2nd act, I wish it was done they're like the Russians idgaf 11 and Jim's plotline was so boring
>>216311143L-lewd
>>216313015I liked season 3 Steve going through a mini quarter life crisis.>reminds me of myself.
>>216316157>I don't even remember what the point of it wasIt was supposed to he a soft launch for a spin-off series, but it was so poorly received, they were forced to scrap it...or so the rumors go
>>216316162His motive in S4 was that part (or the main goal?) of Eleven was the creation of a global-distance assassin, so when the kids in Hawkins started dying, they didn't know Vecna existed so they believed Eleven to be the only thing capable of killing them.
>>216316171I mean I don't have a problem with the killing anyway. Just don't get the inconsistency, but Hopper is the worst culprit as far as that problem goes.
>>216316201>why is the antagonist in S1 still the antagonist in s5!?
>Fucking retarded posters bringing up S1 El not feeling bad about killing people as evidence that it's fine in S5 when S1 Eleven is a few notches above 'raised-by-wolves'rangeban brown countries and every board will improve a thousand percent
I don't remember anything from any season except season 1. Vaguely remember that there was a Russian base underneath the mall.
>>216316111>but some exec said to replace it with the gay shit at the last secondProbably not an exec, just a writer who saw it and said "oy vey wouldn't it be wonderful if instead of this nerdy DnD shit we made it a gay positive allegory? Oh and it would be perfect if Robin is the one to unlock this power in Will, since Robin is a Lesbo, i'll chatGPT some rehashed Coming Out Of The Closet dialogue from season 4 and have Robin randomly give Will, The Talk, for no reason at all, other than to make sure the audience will make the connection right before the epic battle"
>>216316207Okay so why do they still hate Eleven if they now do know about Vecna, and why is Eleven just straight up killing the army people now if her reputation is already in jeopardy
>>216316235>why is Eleven just straight up killing the army people now if her reputation is already in jeopardyBecause they're trying to kill her.
>>216316220Maybe the actress just sucks and there barely seems to be a difference between s1 el and s5
>>216316218Brenner was an actually engaging relevant character. Dr Kay feels like just a waste of time, have the military just be there for the big climatic Sorcerer fight and then let that be it we don't need more of it lol what possible thing can they add to the series that won't be boring time-wasters
>>216316235>They do know about VecnaI don't think they do. They say when they take the kids in E4 that they're not sure why Eleven is abducting them>Didn't they capture the NINA project lab in S4? Wouldn't they then know about Vecna? Or just by asking the S4 survivors?The explanation for this is just that they don't want to believe any of it, but really it's just flimsy writing.
>>216316220She said "sorry" to the one soldier before she snapped his neck. Or is that not enough character growth for you chud?
>>216316259I agree. Kay sucks. But the premise is the military is the group behind the project. That's been so since S1.
>>216316235do they know about Vecnathe military is so undercooked I don't know what they know or don't know, for all I know they think El is the one controlling everything
2025>I am forgotten
>>216316268I think only Joker knows about Henry. Everyone else thinks he died with the rest of the group.
>>216316280It's just really lame and lazy writing. Why even have these guys be the antagonists if you're not gonna commit to fleshing them out? Ultimately Eleven's role in season 4 amounted to her doing the same things she did in every other season anyway, no real development
>>216316346it's like the russians. the upside down stuff is always so fun and interesting, but then they have to cram these human antagonists in our faces as blatant padding
> test
>>216316297Nah, he'll come back. It might show how shitty the writers are, if they fucked up this character's involvement with the gang.
>>216313148How did he get up so quickly?
>>216313390California was a mistake on a plethora of levels
why are they getting uppity in episode 4 over military guy slightly hitting Derek when he insulted them?the fuck they expect?
lmao wine bottle is enough to finish off Demogorgon but 20 or so assault rifles are like butter to it
>>216316791>finish offShe stabbed it in the mouth (weak point) and it barely got a scratchI agree that it's inconsistent and gay, but don't just lie about shit you retard
>>216316759Better question is why the fuck a soldier would bitchslap a 10 year old for being mouthy. It's so cartoony
>>216312936>>216313006"I've been building it... for you."Since it's never explained properly I can only use my impression, but my take on it was that everything about the fleshflayer was designed to counter (and indeed proved to cripple) Eleven after the mindflayer discovered her in S2. It itself is a psychic entity, so leaving a piece inside her body to "eat" away her ability made sense to me in the moment. S4 calling it "a mental block that would only go away if she witnessed her fight with One for some reason" is what didn't make any sense to me.
>>216316815idk perhaps he just got pissedits not like only mentally stable people are allowed to join military
>>216316843Is the "I've been building it for you" line Billy's in S3?I think people (including me prior to my latest rewatch) are just reading too far into it. I think it literally meant that the Mind Flayer was making the meat monster *for* Eleven, as in something to kill her that she couldn't stop (she was incapable of doing more than delaying it).
watching Venca coming into the scene is like watching San Francisco gay pride
>>216316933What does that mean?
>>216316877It was a present and El didn't appreciate it, that ungrateful bitch
>>216316815this, lol
>>216316810>She stabbed it in the mouth (weak point) and it barely got a scratchNah, she went full Slasher on it, there was black blood everywhere in the kitchen. And then El tracked it by finding gallons of blood in the woods. Absolutely retarded.And then there was the home alone scene where they bonk it on the head with a shovel. But the Demogorgon absorbs hundreds of 5.56 rounds like a sponge. 5.56 can go through 1/4" steel btw.
>>216316945it's super gay
>>216316877>Is the "I've been building it for you" line Billy's in S3?Yes, during which the fleshflayer is completed and then goes after her as an episode cliffhanger.>I think it literally meant that the Mind Flayer was making the meat monster *for* Eleven, as in something to kill her that she couldn't stop (she was incapable of doing more than delaying it).Right, and I agree with you if that scene was isolated. It's just, saying it, her getting attacked, the wound being alive and crawling around (as an episode cliffhanger), and immediately losing her powers right then, as if from it, was sequentially connected and felt narratively connected. Like I said, it was just my impression from it. It's not stated and is in fact denied in S4, with a new reason given that I felt made less sense.
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