>>216750374
Avatar is gay and so are you.

>>216750374
yes, he died offscreen

I think so. The general is sick of his shit at this point, so I hope he just goes home with Varang

Did this bomb

>>216750374
Zero cultural impact.

>>216750408
they can clone him all the times they want, buddy

>>216750406
Varang is hot as fuck so no, not gay
>>216750408
Spoiler tags dummy.
And he died on-screen in Avatar 1 so they could just bring him back again. Or even just pull some bullshit where he didn't actually die because it was off screen

>>216750374
It's like Cameron dumped the last movie and some new characters into an A.I. screenplay writer.

for me, it's murder squids.

Abatap

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>>216750374
>OH NOOOOOO my wife and/or kids have been taken hostage to bait me yet again!
getting real tired of this trope, they've had that happen at least like 5 times now. It was old when they kept doing it in the second movie and now they had to do the same shit in this one.

>>216750415
I thought the general went down with the ship

Feel torn because in a lot of ways it was the most fun of the three but it definitely feels like things weren’t push far enough in directions they needed to go. If nothing else the Quarritch arc needed a more concrete finish because as of right now he’s still half in half out with another death fake out. Other than that I feel like the Way of Water rehash complaints are overblown. It’s way more character focused than that was with Jake and Neytiri really getting to do more. We need to be done with Kiri’s Deus Ex Machina shit though. Thematically it’s just not adding anything either and the whole “KILL THEM ALL” feels like it lost the plot a bit. Overall the most flawed of the three but still leagues better than all the rest of studio slop.

>>216750541
If I don’t see her onscreen actively dying I’ll assume she lives

>>216750408
He fell into water lol

>>216750603
I guess I should have said "up" with the ship lol.
Someone was in there when it started getting torn apart/

>>216750374
I think Varang is going to get pregnant in 4th one and Quaritch will join the pro-Nai'vi side

>>216750502
>>216750497
He's now a traitor and a failure, so there's zero reason for them to ever bring him back. His actions to get Jake just resulted in a catastrophic losses of personnel and equipment all because he was far too concerned with his predecessor's child and being so nice that the kid could destroy them from the inside.

>>216750817
actually Quaritch and the ash people damn near saved the whaling armada. They got wiped out by being greedy retards

>>216750576
>We need to be done with Kiri’s Deus Ex Machina shit though
That's only just begun. She's going to be full-on Neo from the Matrix in the next one. She can control Eywa completely and tell it to do whatever Kiri desires

>>216750869
The armada only needed saving directly because of Quaritch's retarded actions. He had Jake in hand, got them fucked up by going after Spider. Had Jake imprisoned, got the city fucked up by being nice to Spider and also allowing in Na'vi that could fuck up the defenses giving them IFF tags.

>>216750817
To be fair, he didn’t really have anything to do with them losing Jake after he was captured and was the only reason they didn’t get merked immediately in the final fight. What fucked them over was trying to mass exterminate the whales against the warnings of their marine biologist. Hell, if they’d have let Quarritch and the Ash People ride with them in the first place, the fliers wouldn’t have been able to take out so many gunships before the battle really kicked off.

>>216750869
That's the other thing getting tiresome too. How how stupid the evil fascist American tech monster humans are and especially all their higher chain of command. They're a joke at this point. They let Spider escape, they are constantly arguing with each other over what to do, a Marine biologist just walked in and stole a bulldozer, all the civilians are phone addicted NPCs that feel like extras from Idiocracy, and the whale hunters walked into an extremely dangerous situation after getting their shit kicked in because "money". There is no justifiable reason any of them should even be alive let alone starting a colony. They are all retarded. They have to do something different with them in the next movie for fuck sakes.

>>216750932
If Quaritch hadn't been nice to Spider nor brought in Ash Na'vi, Jake would have died in prison. No Jake then no Toruk Makto, no Na'vi army, no Tulkun actually fighting back.

>>216751016
They also have retarded security protocols. Spider literally escapes by unscrewing a vent lmao

>>216750415
>>216750541
>>216750603
>>216750642
Carmella is dead.
Quaritch is alive.

>>216750817
The whole movie they were building up to "Quaritch realizes that he's a Navi now, not a human, and joins the Navi and Spider" so they could very well pull that. I was shocked that he """died""" like that after the way the movie had developed him

>>216751043
I'm just tired of there being maybe like 5 humans with any common sense out of the supposed millions already living on the planet. Even in real life it isn't that bad.

>>216750511
This. It was fucking terrible and I loved the 2nd one. Its also 10x more woke with kiri being pandora jesus and spider is a zoomer idiot doing fortnite dances.Biggest disappointment of the year.

>>216750540
They have a daughter whose entire purpose is getting taken hostage in the final act.

>>216751016
yes, the point is that they're all retarded and greedy to the point of incompetence since they only thing that matters is getting rich this instant. These aren't supposed to be people you root for. They don't give a fuck about the survival of humanity, they want to make money.

Should we work with allied tribes? No it doesn't make money now.
Should we invest in security? No it doesn't make money now.
Should we retreat after most of our fleet got destroyed and we only live through pure luck? No it doesn't make money now.

Needless to say it's probably the most realistic characterization in the series.

>>216750697
Word of mouth is going to destroy the box office. It was trash. Not worth the ticket price at all. There will be no 4th movie

>>216751127
refer to >>216751086
Also isn't the reason they came back due to earth dying so they need to colonize in order for the human race to even survive? In the first movie it was all about money. Now it's about the human race not going extinct.

>>216751155
The word of mouth is extremely positive so far, the same as the previous movie. Cinemascore and RT audience score supports that

>>216751168
They originally came for unobtanium, which was a super mineral that was invaluable to industry and space travel.

In 2 and 3, they are mostly there for the Tulkun Ambergris that lets humans live forever. It has always been about money, although now that they know about Spider being able to breathe they may shift their focus.

>>216751155
The only badish word of mouth was the critics, audiences liked it

>>216751221
What was the shit about colonizing the earth then? I know they said this in the first movie because earth is dying.

>>216751122
in both the 2nd and 3rd movie. This is ridiculous. They keep doing it over and over

>>216751244
This is the die hard fans that give those positive reception. It will get out that the movie is incredibly mid and people will watch it on VOD vs the theater. It might not even break a billion

>>216751016
I mean outside of the fact that this series is explicitly an ecological parable that’s not really trying to both sides it, you have to remember that the Earth of this universe is all the fears of late stage capitalism taken to a far off end point. It’s not exactly OOC for the species so stupid it destroyed a planet to then immediately go do it again. That’s part of what’s interesting but so far underexplored about the human side of things. Are they actually too far gone?

>>216750502
Lang said a long time ago that he appears in all 4 sequels

>>216751168
the "good" people are represented by Quaritch, who actually has principles beyond getting a paycheck. People like him can't work when the leadership is greedy nepotists that are unable to think more than five seconds into the future. This is what he runs into in the movie.

The colonization effort is for the ultra-rich that can pay for it. Again they don't give a fuck about anything else than living forever in a mansion on Pandora

>>216751122
>>216751265
Tuk saved the damn day! Sullies stick together!

Do you think any of the mercs got any ash clan pussy?

>>216751315
the voice actor for the older brother also appeared in Avatar 3 despite dying in Avatar 2. They could easily just be doing flashbacks or recordings or whatever.

>>216751427
I loved that one xenofucker.
>Hey look at this cutie
>hisses at him
>Yeah, she wants me.

>>216751462
Neytiri didn't even give him a full hiss

Ikeynibros...
Tarsembros...
Mo'atbros...

we won!

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>>216751155
>>216751194
>>216751244
I like to judge A3 on its own level against the other entries, and i felt kinda miffed because it mirrors A2 so much, A2+A3 should've been one movie. Also, it has no "resolution" phase of the story. A3 ends right after the "climax" phase with the final spiral fight, when it should've gone further and shown scenes of all the major characters settling down and hinting at what comes next. Very jarring that it goes to credits right after that battle.

THAT SAID, A3 with all its glaring flaws in the broader movie landscape is WORLDS more entertaining and better conceived than literally everything else. FUCK gay ass political NPC retard shit like One Battle and Eddington. The realm of imagination is so potent and vast, and midwit slop movies made by soulless Hylics like Ari Aster and James Gunn just INSIST on dragging cinema and audiences down towards the abyss.

I got you a burger.

>>216751642
Tbf I think with James not knowing whether 4 and onward would be a thing at the time let alone how long they could take, it was necessary to have some kind of closure to 3 even if it feels kind of unsatisfying. I’m just more annoyed that it was about fucking Spyder.

>>216751642
A2 and A3 are essentially just one movie.

>>216751695
you think he got Varang a burger too?

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>>216751713
>Varang when she gets a taste of human food
>she enjoys the human's junk food too much
>she eats so many calories she balloons up to a hamplanet in a few weeks

Do you think Ronal’s daughter will also be hostagebait

>>216751642
I don't get the complaints about it being too much like Way of Water. Did people want the Sully family to ditch everything and leave for some fire place? The second film straight up has Jake say "we are sea people now". It was never a temporary stop, the places, people and creatures from the second film are essential to the overall plot of the series, it's all one story rather than hopping around to separate ones. In that regard it's more like LOTR rather than some Marvel universe shit. When a new character is introduced, they are there to stay for the story, and I think that's much better than "Avatar but it's fire, Avatar but it's snow, Avatar but it's mud". It goes for character and plot depth rather than width of the universe.

Tuk was cute in this one just like in 2. :)

>>216751101
It really was. My brainlet buddy and I saw it together and he even noticed the recycled plot and set pieces.

>>216751970
my problem is basically >>216750540
the plot of "they take the wife/kids hostage" was overdone in Way of the Water and was just tiring at this point

Honestly feel like if the final battle didn’t exist nobody would be bitching. Rest of the movie is completely different and unique from WoW but the fact that the very end is a fight over whales and one of the Sully children gets taken hostage colored everyone’s opinions on the entire movie.

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>>216751970
>Quaritch just kind of forgot where the Water village the Sully family moved to was

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>>216751990
I loved Tuk's Wind Trader Outfit!

>>216752114
I don't know, looks like he found him pretty easily to me. The family left the village at the start, Quarritch finds them within what seems like a few days, then every member of the family goes missing, and a few days later Quarritch finds them back at the village.

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I was so happy this motherfucker came back and kicked ass.

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>>216752176
I wish he would have taken care of Varang's mount.

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>>216752222
checked. I was hoping Neytiri would kill that one and Varang would be upset about it. They had scenes showing Kiri and Neytiri's mounts get fucked up. Also, would have been neat to see Neytiri get another Thanator

Is Kiri the only character who can actually move their kuru like it's a limb? For all other characters it's just like a dangling braid, right?

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>>216750374
>/AFAG/
Indeed you are, OP

>>216750374
Avatar
Avatar WOW
Avatar FAG

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>>216752325
Right. The tails can move, but not the kuru. They have to hold them with their hands

>>216752114
Quaritch never found the village in the second movie. He started hunting the whales to bait them and they go out to attack the ship.

>>216752291
> Oh yeah that happened

>>216751127
>Needless to say it's probably the most realistic characterization in the series.
This is true. A company in this setting would see things like security, tactics, and diplomacy as "cost centers".

>>216751713
he ate Varang's burger IYKWIM

I beg to differ.
DROP HIM.

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>*cuts him across his chest*
>"Ow. That wasn't cool."

High Quaritch was hilarious.

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>>216751642
Will all you fucking kids stop posting this shit like you were the first to notice and instead acknowledge youre lemmings for Jimmy and the Jews to shear

>>216752506
Damn, it's too bad that 4 and 5 are never going to happen at this rate

>>216751713
Only the meat.

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She needs to be less of a racist and respect the culture and customs of the human refugees

imagine being Quaritch and walking into your fuck-hut to find Varang and Neytiri

>>216750374
> that realization that James Cameron copied the ents from Lord of the Rings
lmao who else felt that they even had a fucking meeting in a circle like in two towers.

>>216752548
>Jake goes to kill Spider
>He can't do it
>He hugs Spider and the tension eases
>Spider says he still needs to pee and the audience laughs
>Jake turns around and walks back looking for Neytiri
>He hears some sort of scuffle behind him and turns around
>Neytiri has killed Spider

>>216752506
> Avatar 2 and 3 used to be one movie
It’s shows
> 4 and 5 start a brand new epic story arc
The main story arc hasn’t moved an inch since the first movie.

>>216752611
Honestly the whole scene with Neytiri crying to herself and realising Jake deciding to kill Spider was all her fault, coinciding with having the red paint disguise on her and it washing off to look like blood on her hands, it's so kino. Saldana always did something special that felt by far the most real and convincing as a Na'vi.

>>216752506
First of all, this isn't a competition smarty pants. I, in fact, did not know this until recently.

Second of all, sounds like execs yet again intervening and forcing the creator's hand to split up great singular works into multiple entries. Like how Matrix Reloaded and Revolution were going to be 1 movie or Kill Bill Vol 1 and 2 were just one movie. And if WB execs werent so ready to move on from the Snyderverse (he's coming back by the way, he's "NEXT"), they probably would sliced the Snydercut of JL into two movies.

>>216752718
>sounds like execs yet again intervening and forcing the creator's...

No, in an interview Cameron himself said that he wanted to split them up and that the studio didn't want that. He had to convince them that splitting them up would also mean cashing in twice while production cost wouldn't rise that much since they would need all the stuff in place any way, so using it all for 2 movies is just more efficient.

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>>216750374
>Quaritch edition

The good Navi have a white human as their leader
The bad Navi have a white human as their leader

Looks like the Navi don't believe in DEI. Good for them.

>>216750374
Be honest with me, bros. Does the movie warrant the 3 hour run time?

>>216752785
>I gotta apologize, Jake. I get it now. This blue pussy really is fire!

>>216750374
Quaritch is the only reason these movies are entertaining at all. He's a better protagonist than Jake.

>>216752718
>>this isn't a competition smarty pants.

Losers say what

>>216752819
It could have been a 2:40 minute film without all the gay whale shit.

>>216752819
Worth it for Varang alone

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>>216752819
Didn't check my watch a single time. Great pacing imo and I was constantly engaged. But then again I really like the world of Avatar. But also, I didn't like The Way of Water that much. I think if you are just interested in the action and spectacle by the best action director of all time you are gonna have a good time. I personally loved it.

>>216752848
Jake isn't really treated as the most important character anymore, it feels like the story has grown enough and it trusts the surrounding cast a lot to support the core from the first film and grow into further relevance. It mostly works, I enjoy watching scenes focused around Lo'ak, Kiri, Neytiri and others. Jake isn't even the narrator anymore.

>>216752812
Almost all humans are white. Both the main protagonist and antagonist are white men with native waifus. And there are literally 0 gay characters in all 3 movies. It's like they're some time capsule from a bygone era. That's why the (((critics))) hate them.

>>216753126
Based actionchad.

>>216752848
they started to turn him into comic relief too much but I do like him. I hope he's not actually dead

>>216753179
Critics love Avatar, though.

>>216752819
If it wasnt an almost carbon copy of avatar 2, sure. James Cameron shit the bed on this one.

There will be no 4th movie

>Eywa has a face
dumb

>>216753225
shoulda made it look like a female alex grey art face

>>216752710
That argument about racemixing remorse must have really hit home for her

>>216752785
There were a tone of small kids in the theatre when I saw it today. Bad parents

>>216751455
They didn't just say he appears in all sequels, they've said he's the villain in every movie specifically.

>>216753225
I couldn't tell if they were trying to say it's Buddha or a giant human baby.

>>216750374
I wasn't super thrilled with the first movie and some of the plot makes me want to roll my eyeballs. I surprisingly actually liked the sequel.
I actually liked the water movie, I mean I'm not sure how I was suppose to tell who was pregnant in the first one so that was a little confusing. If I wasn't binge drinking and the local movie theaters didn't shut down I'd go to the nearest one to see if they have a no singles policy too.

>>216753471
It looked like a grown human woman to me.

>>216753527
It was a Navi face wtf r u talking about it had a Navi nose and everything

>>216750374
>/AFAG/
Bad movie, AAA thread name.
Congrats, OP.

>>216751025
If Quaritch just shot Jake it would have been over, since they were going to execute him anyways

>>216753552
Fucking did not.

>>216753568
Navi nose and Navi eyes.

>>216750502
>Spoiler tags
who gives a shit?

>>216752497
>this is some strong sheeeeit

>>216752373
Man the old designs rock, new jake and ney look like niggers

any cool new human tech in the new movie?

>>216750374
I'm so fucking mad Cameron got me to sit through Avatar 2 all over again with the promise there'd be cute blue human allied waifus. Hate these gay fucking whales so much.

>>216753651
The dreadlocks on everyone look so stupid in avatar 3.

Am I the only one that watches every Avatar moving wishing there was an RTS game?

I wish someone other than James Cameron was writing this shit.

>>216753704
Yeah

>>216753589
actual anons give a shit, go back to r*ddit newfriend.

guys
i think i have a thing for varang

>>216753663
I think the only noteworthy new tech was the bigger ship, kinda lame

>>216750374
The thing I was mad about most of all: There were no new ISV scenes!

>>216753769
Do the giant trader airships count as new tech?

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>>216752785
I cannot wait for the blue nip slip compilation.
Avatar is a God-tier goon-film and James Cameron is an artist.

>>216753766
>guys
>i think i am heterosexual
breaking news, an anon is not a raging homo

>>216753899
imagine if he didn't have to make their asses flat

lucky bastard probably has pre-nerf footages

>>216753762
>i clicked an Avatar 3 tag and am surprised about spoilers
kill yourself faggot

Not very interesting plot wise but it's refreshing to see something else than superhero slop, in your face political propaganda, girlpower slop, or another mid dystopian film. Just having a pro natalist theme with a large family and visually showing pregnancy + baby, especially with the whole "connection to nature" thing, makes it enjoyable. Cameron loves life and I think pumping that message to the masses is infinitely better than what we find in the majority of media we've gotten in the last ten years. Plus it looks pretty. 7/10.

Movie finished, way too fucking long.
also I was way more invested in the General Killjoy and his psycho gf than I was with the actual heroes. Eywa is absolutely useless and the only reason things worked out is a literal deus ex machina
the peaceful Navi girl literally screaming "KILL ALL THE SKYWALKERS!!* doesn't raise any red flags?
I also kinda hate Spider? Dude is an embarrassing self insert for wannabe Navi daters. Dude stabs his dad in the back what like five times throughout the movie?
And also nothing is actually concluded with the movie. I think the head general lady dies, somehow, despite abandoning ship. But the rich entrepreneur dude who I remember being a useless sod in the first film survives and there's no reason for the same stuff not to happen all over again.

>>216753899
Ronal's preggo tits were so full it looked like they'd burst. They really popped out of the screen in 3D

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>>216753663
>APC with the rotatable wheels
>massive whaling ship
>mini-flamethrowers
i guess thats about it

honestly, i had knew the humans were gonna lose, but i had hoped theyd get at least one victory at some point, but no, they just charge facefirst into a whale ambush and get slaughtered by the natives until the fire navi come to save their asses, then keep getting slaughtered by the wildlife when the navi goddess decides to step in
they just job again and again, all that high tech doesnt mean shit against a bunch of cat savages with spears riding on top of fish and lizard birds
what a fucking joke

>>216753266
It halfway was tho, it was female Navi Buddha.

did the air merchants seem way more 'human' than the other na'vi to anyone else? like there was no attempt to make them behave differently from a normal person

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>>216750374
AFAG? k

Just saw it and I liked it. I still like 2 the best though

[Spoiler]
+I like Neytiri in this. Slightly bigger presence than in the last film
+Varang is pure sex
+the air traders were cool. Wish we saw more of them tho
+Quaritch and Varang were fun to watch
+Ewya reveal?!?! Holy shit
+Spider and the changes he goes through
+got to see Tsu'tey again
-not enough Tuk
-not enough Lyle
-Spider getting kissed by Kiri. It should have been me!
-RIP Rotxo. he was a real nigga
-kinda shocked by how similar the film was to Avatar 2. So many scenes felt lile they were ripped out of it.
-the final battle being on the water and involving whales AGAIN
[/spoiler]

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Too long plot was basically the same but holy fuck I loved every single second Varang was on screen, she completely steals it.

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>>216753976
>I have a pregnancy fetish
This movie did things to me man.

>>216754034
Woops I'm dumb
>>216754009
I felt that too. David Thewlis' character looked very human

>>216750576
It really isn't a good look for the goddess when she waits until half the whales and Navi are dead before saving the day.
Also Varang went evil because the goddess never saved her clan from the volcano despite her prayers and the solution is to link with her and have the goddess tell her to fuck off lol...

>>216753972
>and there's no reason for the same stuff not to happen all over again.
the whales now fight back so they can't profit from the brain juice, I guess

brain juice that they could and should just produce in a lab anyway

I really hope we still get Avatar >>216754051
Four and five

>>216754073
>when she waits
she might not be that aware or good at micromanaging

imagine if you had to take notice of one of your gut's bacteria and consciously help it somehow

>>216750924
I'd say at that point the responsibility was on the armada and the boss lady. Spider's room has a massive fucking window in it. Does nobody think to watch the kid? Jake getting away is also completely out of his hand. The boss lady is somehow even more incompetent than the entrepreneur nerd.

>>216754034
+Crab Mechs were back and actually kicking ass!
- still not enough Crab Mech screen time
+ Norm was back and actually got to do stuff unlike in 2
- the fakeout deaths were REALLY lame. Come on.

holy fuck the way Varang moves is so stupidly seductive

What happened to the whale biologist? Think they crucified him for birds to eat?

>>216754034
If you watch deleted/extended scenes from 2 they cut a bunch of presence from Neytiri for time, there is more where Ronal struggles to teach her to ride the water creatures and then Neytiri shows she can hunt her own way by leaving from her Ikran into the water.
The end scene where she was gonna kill spider is way longer too, she was gonna do it anyway to avenge her son and they really had to talk her down. It was way more tense and I can't believe they cut it.

>>216753329
>Bad parents
Hell yeah
https://youtu.be/GPjW0f9V-wU?si=0NZ38i3VrDtXVze_

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>>216753766
You'd have to be dead to not have a thing for Varang

Have we discussed how much swearing is in this movie? They say shit/bullshit like two dozen times, ass a dozen times, and even drop the F bomb

>>216754190
I think he ran away without anyone noticing or recognising him as being behind jake's escape.

>>216754154
One of the things I kept thinking about during the movie was how in reality there would be an a I making decisions.And the lack of aI is kind of a major plothole but I don't mind

Ranking jimbos movies

T2
The Terminator
Aliens
Avatar Fire and Ash
True Lies
Avatar
Avatar The way of water
Titanic

>>216754253
I called the drunk biologist would drop the f word

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Sooo...did she now join the pantheon of top /tv/ waifus?

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It's a better movie than WoW but suffers from being basically the same movie as WoW.
I fucking love evil women bros

>>216754258
Ey wa is the ay ai dumbass

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Thanks for the hearty keks, anon.

>>216754293
People keep saying it's exactly like the way of water while completely ignoring the whole spider and Kari plot points.

I thought it was better in every way.Shape or form

I'm an abatap & cameron hater, but the VarangxQuaritch relationship carried the whole movie.

>>216754323
I meant for the humans. Like, there would have been an AI monitoring Spider 24/7, his escape was really dumb in general

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>>216754293
She has by far the most beautiful eyes of any Na'vi we've seen yet

Quaritchbros we eating good.

I would give anything to be Varang's pleasure slave

>>216754084
The humans are only losing these fights because they keep holding back and doing stupid shit. They'd literally won at the end of act 2 but their incompetence blew their advantage. They keep trying to wear kiddy gloves dealing with the Navi when they should just napalm the villages and be done with it.

>>216754258
Cameron is a big GUNNM fan I think he would rather explore a transhumanism approach than a self serving machine. Just like the mind inhabits the avatars and the consciousness inhabits eywa after death, I think we would be more likely to see human brains in jars in charge before we see an ai take control

>>216754372
>pleasure slave
lol F that. big Q turning it on her and getting to slam it out is way cooler.

>>216754375
RDA is a private company with limited resources and authority, the Na'vi are not fighting humanity, or they'd be cooked a long time ago

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>>216754328
Well that's kind of what I've said. I like this a lot more than Way of Water but it's tainted by being very similar to that.
>>216754354
The combination of eye shadow with the white and red is great but really what makes it for me is how she moves and how she smiles, it's super alluring.

>>216754404
Wrong. The Earth is colonizing Pandora since movie 2. They didn't want to genocide the Na'vi but after the events in part 2, they should have gone much more violent

>>216754283
>Look Oona, I got you that sweater so you don't have to walk around topless on set all the time. Can you put some clothes on?
>Sorry Jim, it's important for my character that I act as authentically as possible and that includes being nude. Even if the cameras only captures my movements.

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>>216754409
>what makes it for me is how she moves
>"You just tie a really tight rope around your chest and then, where does your center of gravity goes? And then it just drops into the pelvis. And that's where she moves from"
That was actually Oona Chaplin's idea while she was working on bringing the character to life

>Q turning it on her and getting to slam it out is way cooler
>"It's a relief for Quaritch to submit. Whatever that is she does to him, you know, it's cool and he's not sure about it that he wants that done to him. And when it is kinda done to him he's like ehhh, do it again" - Stephen Lang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5C31Azmv10

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>>216754450
Thanks for the tits Charlie.

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>>216754404
Kiri "KILL THEM ALL" Sully says otherwise. At this point they've proven that the Navi are dangerous and have killed enough personnel to where there should be enough folk clamering for revenge. There was no mercy from the Navi faction in that last battle. That dude who got his window broken and drowned a painful death has a family!

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>>216754499
Charlie's greatest project

>>216754431
RDA, like all gigacorporations, is basically suffering from immense corporate inertia. Getting just the plan going to launch a full-on war is in and of itself likely requiring so many years of management meetings, it's a borderline miracle the current fighting is happening at all, and more due to standard security procedures than a war plan.

>>216754506
In case you're joking, they do have families. Spider's mother was one of the gunship pilots killed by Jake and Neytiri in the first movie. Na'vi don't care

>>216754528
>her getting stabbed and her husband and baby murdered at her wedding drove her into a rage so strong she ended up psycho in her next life as an alien catgirl
It all makes sense now

>>216752785
What do you guys think the drugs she gave him felt like? If Quaritch himself said it was some strong shit?

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>>216754486
That was a great idea, honestly she's by far the standout of the movie for me and basically everyone I've talked to. I hope we see more of her. I don't entirely love how she basically becomes Quaritch's sidekick towards the second half, it's more fun when she's being evil and having fun with it.

>>216754620
The effects looked similar to an acid trip, I know, I've tried it once

Spider is an ungrateful, cringy little shit in this movie. Quaritch goes so far out of his way for him and Spider throws it back in his face every time and brags about it. Him screaming like a chimp at the airship because he's too special for them to kill made me want him to get karma so bad. The worst part is that they'll keep letting him away with shit in the next movie. Ever need to deal with Quaritch? Just get Spider. And because I can't self insert as the little bastard I feel cucked in every scene he shares with Kiri

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>>216754375
>>216754404
>>216754431
>the navi have, so far, been fighting whats essentially a bunch of fishing vessels with an armed guard
>they have massacred them to the man whenever possible
>the fishermen themselves have also completely underestimated pandora and its capabilities
>they realize that the whole world is hostile to human life
>so they bring in a proper modern army to pacify the planet
>proceed to bomb and artillery strike the shit out of everything
>send in unmanned drones to get air control before they put boots on the ground with close air support
>bring in proper war vehicles like tanks and IFVs
>carry out a campaign of total destruction where they purge all native flora and fauna before using the leftover ash as fertilizer for native earth flora, beginning the terraforming process
>the aliens can no longer even get close to human territory without getting spotted by cameras and sensors and a swarm of kamikaze drones being sent their way
>casualties amongst the colonial troops decrease to practically 0

thats what the humans would do, if james cameron gave half a shit about telling a compelling story and didnt just wank his mary sue cats at every chance

>>216754671
The USA could literally do that to every country on the planet in a week, and yet we still haven’t done it.

>>216754671
I mean, don't they want the planet for its?Resources, not to turn it into a dying world like the one they're trying to escape from

>>216752785
GIWTWM

>>216754638
She was out of her depth dealing with the humans but I'd quite like if she learns to play the political game in the sequel. Become the media darling.

>>216754709
>The USA could literally do that to every country on the planet in a week, and yet we still haven’t done it.
the US could do it, but its dealing with ”fellow humans”, so they would never get away with it
the pandoran colonists are dealing with inhuman aliens, theres no one who would judge or persecute them for it

>>216753822
i don't know what "ISV" means

>>216754737
I'm calling it now, she's gonna get knocked up and motherhood will change her

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>>216754737
The problem is that she doesn't speak English, so she can only really interact with those humans who learned the Na'vi language

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>>216754742
Interstellar Vehicle. Their spaceships they use to get from Earth to Pandora. Saw them in 1 and 2, but sadly not 3.

>>216754740
People love animals way more than they love other humans. If there was a no Muslims button everyone would push it, especially other Muslims.

>>216754740
To be fair look at how badly they got fucked up by one begrudged marine biologist... who they don't even know the identity of, he committed his terrorist attack with no consequences.

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>>216754737
I like how happy she looked when she was walking with Quaritch and everybody was admiring her, she seems to like the spotlight.

Do you suppose they're going to do anything with the new kid? The youngest child just stood around with her cute prepubescent nipples but didn't really have a role in the story. Why toss in a new one when they won't use the kid they've already got?

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>>216754661
He was the same in the last one. The humans keep trying to be nice and friendly to him, and he uses that to fuck them up hardest and get people killed. The only reason the flying ship crashed is because they allowed him on the bridge unrestrained and not in the brig with hand and ankle cuffs. The little shit even saved Quaritch so pretty much everything in this movie was his fault.

>>216753899
there's a scene with neytiri's titties in full view

>>216751016
I'm hoping Earth gov kicks RDA to the side for their incompetency and comes to Pandora full force and shit gets real in the next movie.

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reminder that na'vi have very small penises, meaning that the avatars must have exceptionally big dongs by their standards due to the admixture with human dna

varang had a reason to consider quaritch as a sex slave

>>216754925
reminder: dicks grow, virgin

>>216754811
propaganda could easily sway them into commiting atrocities, but that is assuming you even need to send in soldiers when you could just shoot a rocket at them or send in a swarm of drones
just show the civvis a bunch of dead humans covered in arrows and that will turn them around right quick

>>216754820
thats just BS, the truck has cameras everywhere, you telling me that they have no way of knowing who drove it?
and thats not even taking into consideration the cameras that must be scattered all over the city itself

>>216754925
Also proportional to their body size they also have smaller brains so humans have bigger dicks and are smarter lol.

>>216754889
I actually skipped 2. Is there any reason why he faces no racism for being a puny human who needs a mask to survive whilst the fucking whales of all people are the ones hating on their own? The whales were saying how he was a maverick and was putting dangerous ideas in everyone's head but them saying that about an innocent whale baby came across kinda hilarious

>>216754925
>muh dik

>>216753944
>LOL this is 4chan and we spoil things here because that's what 4chan is XD
go back and then kys newfriend

>>216754998
>reddit calling the redditor reddit

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it's so funny that she started posing as soon as they put a camera in front of her, she's so cool

The general lady was so fucking stupid tho... She relies on Quaritch for basically any agency, handicaps him whenever capable, puts herself on the Ash folk shit list immediately despite them bringing her Jake and Spider, fucks that advantage up, and then drives her ship into a magnetic pillar that she literally knew about and dies. She does die right? I know she said abandon ship but when the deck was destroyed I swear I saw a woman covering her face which I think is her.

>>216750374
>Are we finally done with the bullshit "Quaritch leads a mission to capture/kill Jake" plot?
Yes. Avatar 4 will introduce a conflict that isn't resolved until Avatar 5.

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>>216751315
>all 4
Now that would virtually be a fancy feast...

Just saw the movie, first thought is that Navi pants are just assless chaps

>>216755056
Nothing was resolved in this movie. What has changed? Spider can live without a mask due to deus ex infestation, the sister dies giving childbirth... and that's it?

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>mfw the reason Kiri can't connect with Eiwa is because she is Eiwa
it was teased slightly previously but this movie made it very obvious. I love it

>>216754671
Most humans aren't niggerfaggots who want to destroy natural beauty like the corpo golems are. This story isn't about humans vs. navi, it's about corporate goyslaves vs. people who give a shit about nature and beauty. Plenty of humans fight against the corpo drones.

>I MUST CONSOOM, I AM A HUMAN LOCUST AND I MUST CONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>216755084
>>216755056
There's also going to be a 6 year time skip so they already filmed the scenes with the teenagers to avoid them being too old for the first act of A4

one of the dumbest aspect of these movies is that the humans never learn from their mistakes and just keep repeating them ad nauseam

>natives have bows strong enough to pierce their cockpits
>instead of armoring them, lets just leave them as is!

>the natives love the tolkun and are willing to die for them
>lets just keep attacking them anyway and expect no retaliation

>the tolkun are actually pretty smart and capable of strategy, one of our guys even lost an arm to one
>lets just go after the big ass congregation of them and expect them to act as dumb beasts!

>the natives have air superiority and our close air support get shredded whenever we try to use them
>lets just completely ignore trying to regain air superiority and hope our CAS can fire their rockets before they get swarmed by flying raptors!

they are written so poorly and made into a joke time and time again, it gets tiresome

>>216754976
He does generally face racism. Neytiri despised him and wanted Jake to send him away to be with his own kind. The only ones who like him were the kids and they grew up with him. He mainly played with the kids and stayed out of the adult Na'vi's way. It helps that he speaks their language and respects their traditions/lifestyle.

The whales were pacifists. The whales have long memories and their ancestral tribes got into big wars killing each other. So they resolved to give up killing so that it wouldn't result in big body counts of dead whales. This is obviously way before the humans arrived, but the whales were set in their way after so long. Payakan's pod was attacked and most of them killed, so he killed some humans to protect his pod. And the whales got pissed and outcast him. It took until this movie to finally get them to listen.

>>216755044
Yeah she was definitely still on the ship when it got sucked into the magnetic field, I didn't get that either.

And yes, she was cartoonishly racist.

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>>216755113
>Plenty of humans fight against the corpo drones
I've worked as a corpo drone for several years, from an entry level to low-mid manager...never again

>>216755105
Uhhh, Kiri being Eywa's Avatar is kind of a big deal?

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>>216755092
that's how we like em

>>216755126
>natives have bows strong enough to pierce their cockpits
To be fair Neytiri takes out most of the air vehicles in this movie and she does that by blowing them up with the grenade arrows.
>the natives love the tolkun and are willing to die for them
They do expect retaliation, they are armed to the teeth when they go in. They just don't expect it from the tolkun themselves because they aren't supposed to fight back.
>the natives have air superiority and our close air support get shredded whenever we try to use them
Now you are just splitting hairs

>>216755180
and the first thing she did with that power was command all life under her control to kill the humans. "Kill them all!!" Were her exact words if I'm right. Honestly I'd have been so pumped if that command had gotten Spider killed.

>>216755126
I can't think of another series where the Hand of the Writer been so blatant and one sided

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>>216754234

She looks pretty frisky to me.

>>216754781
Why didn't they just land on the Na'vi?

>>216754976
it was pretty big in that movie that neytiri didn't see spider as one of her own, it's why it was such a point of contention and her development in this movie.
at the end of 2 Quaritch holds Tuk hostage, Neytiri reciprocates and holds Spider hostage. Quaritch instantly backs down, in the extended cut she was still going to kill him anyways saying "a son for a son" because she knew the entire time he was Quaritch's son, and Quaritch had just killed her oldest son. This is where spider gets the scar on his chest, neytiri is the one who gave it to him and even before that moment when they're on the boat he has a shellshocked look on his face as he's hiding and watching her kill humans with inhuman hatred.

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This shot was dope

>>216755092
for easy access

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This is on sale right now. Is it worth it?

>>216755044
it's such an obvious play to intentionally pit the natives against each other, obviously it's what happened IRL in history and europeans made out like bandits. She's right though that letting them stay there was bad op sec, Jake would've never gotten away otherwise if Na'Vi were never allowed on base.

>>216755326
No

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I chuckled at the ending

>>216755147
At least you didn't get eaten by a squid.

I really really like the firtst movie and have zero passion to ever watch this. Damn.

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>>216755214
>To be fair Neytiri takes out most of the air vehicles in this movie and she does that by blowing them up with the grenade arrows.
Sure, but im not talking about neytiri only, all na'vi attack choppers in the same way: dive bomb them from above before sniping the pilot with a well placed arrow
>They do expect retaliation, they are armed to the teeth when they go in. They just don't expect it from the tolkun themselves because they aren't supposed to fight back.
Except that they didnt prepare in the slightest, they just got a bunch more people than last time
They know the natives go under the waves before pouncing on them, but they havent installed any spikes or rails along the sides of the ships to prevent that sort of thing
And no, the humans DID know the tolkun were intelligent and capable of violence, the ship in the 2nd movie literally got destroyed by one losing his shit
Even if that were a freak case, people would learn from it and avoid giving the whales the advantage of surprise, such as swimming into a whole cornered pod of them and expecting them to be good little kittens
>Now you are just splitting hairs
No, i am being perfectly logical, its a well known fact in military doctrine that you do NOT bring close air support when you dont have air superiority, because then your gunships will just get destroyed by the enemy fighters
You need to control the skies before you try to bomb the enemy

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>>216754781
Jake had command of hells gate and he spent 12 years being a tree hugger instead of manufacturing an arsenel over a decade. All those humans are sitting ducks while landing against ikrans with RPGs

>>216755140
>when she's holding your dick as you pee

>>216755391
When the squids showed up and started noshing on the plesiowhatever I was thinking they were free from the fungus hivemind. Kinda a parallel to the ash tribe with an animal that lived in a place so far from the trees that they followed the proper rules of nature.

So the final battle obviously disappointed me.

>"FUCK ATHEISM, PRAISE GOD!":The Film
Based Jim, did it again.
11/10

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>Here's your fire waifu bro!

>>216755421
NTA but my impression about the humans was that they bought all their mechs/planes so kinda shit out of luck on upgrades for at least a few decades.

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The most important thing that no one is talking about: they capture Jake and have him in prison, the entire city is looking at him and taking pictures, Selfridge is there, the General is there, how did not a single person ask how the fuck did this dude permanently transfer himself into his human-created avatar body? That's a huge damn deal. Fuck the whale juice, if they can just move their current consciousness to a freshly made body, they are immortal and can put themselves into any body they wish. Want to be a gigachad or even a stacy? Boom, done. But no, everyone just looks at Jake saying "yay, we got him! time to shoot him! nothing special to learn from this traitor! Now Spider, that's the real special guy we should study!"

>>216755032
this scene was so surreal but i love it.

>>216755484
holy cute

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>>216755484
>she's right behind me, isn't she?

I will not be satisfied until we see a time skip 100 years into the future where humans have fully settled pandora, replaced its serene natural landscapes with parking lots, strip malls and mcdonalds, and the na'vi are reduced to reservations where they live off government assistance and are all fat and addicted to alcohol

>>216755032
can quaritch be considered the new main character of the franchise? he has the most development by far.
sure, jake was our boy in avatar 1, but he has nothing to do in the sequels.

>>216755456
>"FUCK ATHEISM, PRAISE GAIA*": The Film
fixed that for you

>>216755326
it's literally the best farcry game
unfortunately that means it's still a farcry game
also like someone said how all the humans in the movies are white and straight, ubisoft obviously ramped up the DEI big time
if you thought the movies were very on the nose "sky people bad" the game kicks it up to a million.

>>216755484
Ahhh! My fire wife (human/Skywoman) can't be this cute!

>>216754258
In reality? LLMs are a dead end. It's not alive and will never reach sentience because we don't know what sentience is. If the technocrats were building datacenters using organoids made of brain tissue, we'd have something to talk about because we obviously know brains=sentience. But that's not the case.

And thank god for that. The looming techno-antichrist will never cometh, Deus Ex, Ex Machina, Skynet, Jarvis, Ultron, iRobot, all this shit was a paranoid false prophecy.

>>216755484
Why is she hotter as a catperson?

I'm watching the second movie now and its shit

>>216755528
At this point Quaritch is like the Vader of Avatar.

>>216755326
No but I hate fps games

>>216751860
She's already a coke-head in the wild, so she'd probably end up strung out on the best drugs Earth has to offer.

>>216755492
why did jake not try to get the word out to humanity?
that was grace's original plan, and she knew that people back home would care if they knew the truth
is it too much to ask that jake recognises that he is human? he only got his perfect life through sheer luck because his brother died

>>216755492
Because that requires humans to confront the question of their mortality and consciousness. Jake was willing to leave his past and his body behind for love of his new home. Quarritch did it but he can't decide if he is devoted to his old ideals, or if his new self can be a different and better person unshackled from his past. I don't think I would be able to ditch my body and mind out of some vague promise that my next body would have my memories. Would it have my "self"? Because I want that.

>>216755485
They literally build them on site, we see their factories in the 2nd movie
They could easily upgrade or improve on their designs to counter the enemy
Hell, the russians and ukrainians in the current war started welding scrap metal to their tanks to protect against RPGs, you telling me the pilots wouldnt start strapping armor to their cockpits themselves if they knew how the enemy operates?
Humans are reactionary creatures, we adapt and we overcome, the ones in this movie are as clueless as a bunch of greenhorns who have never seen combat, but most of these are supposed to be mercs with experience from fighting on earth!
Just admit that they are written poorly and purposefully gimped

>>216755577
I think it is canon that eywa is like a read-only computer and that jake literally did die at the end of avatar 1

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>>216752139
Fire and Ash has the best live action Avatar costumes

>>216755235
Not just Spider, all of the humans that allied with the Na'vi.

>>216755559
it's not real so they can just pretend the sentient AI exists, you know... like in that other movie he made.

>>216755492
jake sully dindu nuffin

>>216755608
No. The canon is Jake's self was moved to the Avatar. Grace was almost moved, but she ended up the in the Avatar's womb instead. Quaritch is the one that was copied/pasted since humans can't actually move the self.

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>>216755032
>>216755496
If Quaritch dies I will just tell myself this is the Canon ending. Jake is executed, humanity wins, Quaritch and the Fire na'vi prosper alongside them

>>216755492
>how the fuck did this dude permanently transfer himself into his human-created avatar body?
They did it themselves with Quaritch. They haven't figured out to breathe on Pandora. That's why they cared more about Spider.

>>216755492
Because to do so would cost at least the millions upon millions it costs to grow an avatar body in the first place. It was such a monumental loss when Jake’s brother died that they sought out his brother in the first place

>>216755566
lol no

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>>216755484
Too tall for my taste and she looks like she doesn't shave

>>216751247
Justification mainly. Dying Earth also sounds very improbable if they have Space Travel and Space Mining operations.
Sure the Flora and Fauna may went the way of the Dodo on Earth, but Industry can easily sustain life. They already do that on Pandora.
Oxygen Recycling, Water electrolysis, Carbon scrubbing, etc is not complicated to have at scale, just Energy intensive.

>>216755694
that's a good thing

>>216755672
You don't have very good reading comprehension, buddy? The people on Pandora did not have any technology to copy Jake's brain and put it permanently into an Avatar. The only thing they can do is remotely control them from an expensive pod. Spider's mutation is nothing compared to what happened with Jake. If the Human's controlled Eywa, they could force it to move anyone's self to any body they wanted.

God damn I would do anything for Varang bros

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>>216755492
They already figured that shit out long time ago, they used the tree neural network to copy his memories into the avatar. Its the exact same shit they did with Quaritch. They dont believe in spiritual vodoo mumbjo jumbo, its all science to them.

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>>216755694
She shaves

>>216751274
There was applause at the end of my showing today. I totally agree with the complaints of it being thematically way too similar to 2, but other people seemed very pleased. All the jokes landed with real genuine laughter from the audience

>>216755738
It's not the exact same shit. Fuck, you're stupid. Probably not going to be able to talk to you, so just go back to jerking off to whales or whatever

>>216754737
>Become the media darling
yes
>she learns to play the political game
Nah. I'm not saying she should lose all agency in the plot, but her role in politics should, at least in some part, involve her being propped up by the human military as a figurehead. We love manipulation through sympathetic regimes.

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Would killing Spider do anything? The RDA already examined him.

>humans are capable of splicing alien and human DNA to create hybrid bodies which they can then pilot remotely via wifi
>They are somehow unable to genetically alter themselves to be able to breath on pandora
Lets be honest, why in their right minds would they want any pandoran life form in their bodies when it has been shown to be unpredictable and potentially a sentient pseudo hivemind
I have a theory that the reason all the scientists and jake turned on their own was because they were brainwashed by eywa through their avatar connection whenever they used their head tentacles to connect with the flora
Its clear the planet is a self aware and intelligent organism, so it being able to manipulate the avatar pilots is fully within its capabilities

>>216754661
>>216754889
His only experience with the military is them trying to kill everyone he has ever met, burn his world to the ground, and imprison him.

>>216755528
If there is a new protag, it is obviously Kiri.

>>216755705
>>216751247
I mean for fucks sake humans have cracked cloning and genetic engineering tech. They can terraform whatever fucking planet they want, or based on the scale of their manufacturing and industrial capabilities, build some fucking dome cities. There should be 0 fucking reason humans are on the edge of extinction. Or even needing to hunt the whales. Once they get a single sample of the brain goo, they could fucking clone that shit in a lab, or whatever fucking gland that produces it. Voila!
God damn it pisses me off when writers forget shit like this, because it sinks the whole fucking plot.

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>>216755778
Spyder doesn’t actually breathe. The fungus is dumping atp into his body.

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>>216755484
she cute af

>>216755658
giwtwm

>>216755658
I like how, in the spirit world, Spider is the same height as Kiri.

>>216755821
We still can’t synthetically manufacture drugs. Every drug you take is just a processed plant or fungus.

>>216755658
FUCK.

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>>216755766
Why are you chimping out?

>>216755658
IT SHOULDA BEEN ME

>>216755658
kids a real trooper because he had to pretend making out with Sigourney Weaver was hot
I mean I totally would but this kid is so young

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>>216750374
how many billies are we at?

>>216750576
>t definitely feels like things weren’t push far enough in directions they needed to go

it could have been the best Avatar movie and one of Cameron's best if the ending wasnt so shit

>>216755740
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The way "get away from my mother, BITCH" worked for me in this movie when I found it cringe in a literal Alien movie last year is proof that James Cameron has the mandate of cinema heaven and can do no wrong.

>>216755872
Stop being retarded. I'm not talking about us, I'm talking about the humans in the movie, who can clone and genetically engineer wholly functional bodies. It is within their power and interest to just clone the organs of the whales that produce the immortality juice.
They can also clone plants, animals, whatever they want.
It's one of those technological breakthroughs that solves one of those massive sci-fi issues of space colonization.

>>216755778
>having a picture of an entirely new, unknown organism is just as good as having the real thing, right?

>>216755911
lmao

fuck catgirls

>>216755965
>They can't clone them because -insert scifi mumbo jumbo-
Is it really that hard, anon?

>>216755929
it would have been cooler if she said it word for word: "get away from her, you BITCH"

>>216755992
Just say cloning makes the wrong goo and allude to communing with fungus being a needed step to start the process.

>>216755992
Apparently it is because they never do

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>>216755658
>Hey Spider, now that you got your new kuru, let's play doctor!

missionary with kiri or pelvis crushing cowgirl with varang?

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>>216755965
>It is within their power and interest to just clone the organs of the whales that produce the immortality juice.
Nta, but maybe the organs who make the juice also require more to make it, like the whale's diet or way of life
The shit is stored in the brain, so for all we know, it could be made as a side effect of social interactions between pod members

Now that the general is dead, i think that the next big villain is going to be the chairman that was already mentioned
Would be cool if they revealed that this guy is like mr house who ran simulations to see when earth will collapse and it showed that its got like 50 years max and everything the humans have been doing has been in an attempt to get as much funding as possible and to get as many people and resources from earth before the planet devolves into anarchy
This chairman bankrupted his company to afford the initial colonization and now everything he does to make more money is to get as much off earth as possible
Would also be cool if he were a cyborg who gets badly damaged at the end of film 4 and has to get installed into the city's network to survive, which gives him complete control over it, turning him into a mecha eywa
So yeah, pretty much just mr house

>>216755816
She's basically Neo or space catgirl Jesus

We need some human interaction with the whales.
Right now there are three intelligent species in these movies.
The Na'vi interact frequently with both humans and Tulkun, but a human has never exchanged a single line of dialogue with the entire third set of characters.
They could use some of the massive runtime to have, for example, that marine biologist who helped them escape actually meet the beings who he worked to save.

>>216755421
>Except that they didnt prepare in the slightest, they just got a bunch more people than last time
There were a lot more people, and the whole operation was organized on a super tight deadline, compounded by the chaos just caused by Neytiri busting Jake out, a leadership crisis, and undermined by the reassurances that the tulkun are completely docile.
>They know the natives go under the waves before pouncing on them, but they havent installed any spikes or rails along the sides of the ships to prevent that sort of thing
The Na'vi are clearly shown to jump out of the water and shoot them or throw spears at them, out of reach of any spike. Also, where are they supposed to get those custom-made anti-Na'vi spikes on such short notice on whaling boats?
>And no, the humans DID know the tolkun were intelligent and capable of violence, the ship in the 2nd movie literally got destroyed by one losing his shit
The ship was destroyed and sank because it rammed a rock and split its underside. The single tulkun's attack did not do nearly as much damage.
>Even if that were a freak case, people would learn from it and avoid giving the whales the advantage of surprise, such as swimming into a whole cornered pod of them and expecting them to be good little kittens
The whales that attacked them were not in the pod they surrounded.
>No, i am being perfectly logical
But not sound, from the looks of it.

>>216756131
>Maybe they can because blah blah blah
The movie never says they can't. It doesn't even try. All it does is bend itself into pretzels to MAKE humans out to be the most over the top cartoonishly evil idiots to ever exist because Cameron will get pissy if people continue to side with humanity over his furry ocs
He will never allow the humans to do anything cool, logical, or anything that isn't motivated by whatever hippie dippy bullshit he was upset about when he wrote the script.

>>216756229
They still heavily underestimated their enemy, again, for the 2nd time in a row

>>216756268
I watching part 2 now and I'm thinking its really cool that we crossed the galaxy to find out whale brain bile makes us immortal or some shit. A real testament to human ingenuity.
Bravo, Cameron

>>216755965
Clone != successfully bring to maturity. The bigger the tulkuns get, the more amrita they produce, but that takes a lot of time. Any such cloned organs, provided they even worked, or even made useful amrita in enough quantities to be economically viable, would also take years if not decades of maintenance. Meanwhile the whales are right there.

>>216755965
They can’t clone navi’s. Those are just hybrids. They couldn’t even get the finger count right.

>>216756603
Then clone hundreds, or thousands. Tens of thousands. Make farms. Genetically alter the them to produce more, or to mature faster. It's the most valuable resource to ever exist for the richest people who have ever lived.
>>216756695
They have five fingers because they're hybrids. Not because they're bad clones.
They have to be hybrids because they need THEIR OWN personnel to be able to mentally pilot them, and that requires a close genetic match.
That's why they needed Jake Sully at all.
ERGO
Hybrid puppets.
You shills are forgetting your own lore.

>>216754671
The movies biggest mistake was failing to show how the inhabitants of Earth perceive Pandora. Namely, they're obsessed with it. Humans have even brought some animals and plants to Earth. Eyewa is even worshipped by some. If this corporation were to suddenly destroy all of that, it would be like Amazon burning down all the rainforests and killing all the elephants and whales. Bezos would be killed by his own security guards within the hour. That's why humans won't drop a few nukes or asteroids on Navi.

don't make another thread

>>216755884
Anon probably meant that Eywa transferred Jake's consciousness to the new body, and not simply copied it as was the case with Q. After the whole ritual, Jake's old body was merely an empty shell, just like avatars before a human enters it. People probably didn't know this. They probably thought Jake was just a copy.

>>216756872
Too late >>216757111