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>>216866665Here's one for Norm, the underrated Chad
>>216866724Even the toddler is pregnant. Damn.
>>216866724only two kids? Is he gay?
>>216866770Didn't you watch Idiocracy? Smart people like Norm have less kids than dumb people like Jake
>>216866844it's crazy that Jake only has three biological kids
>>216866724Does he ever fuck his wife with his human body?
>>216866902Definitely. Mutxuk is a freak like that
I bet Neytiri would not have let Spider eat with her family at mealtime (he had to wait outside their tent until they were done)
Is there anything in canon suggesting that Grace had herself some fun while driving her Avatar? Her avatar is hot af, I don't believe that nobody wanted to tap that
PSA for anybody wanting first and second movie McFarlane figures, they're being sold for closeout prices at Ross Dress for Less. This is my haul from visiting four Ross's.The small green ikran was $3.The Bob and Seze figures with mini Jake and Neytiri were $10.The Jake and Neytiri figures from The Way of Water were $12.And the large Seze was $18 and can have the regular Neytiri figure fit on its back.I also saw Shack and Thanator chase playsets and an AMP Suit figure but didn't have room to grab it at the time.
>>216866381Cameron is like Lucas in that coolness and storytelling >>>>>>>>> consistent lore. He wanted to show Pandora's oceans and giving the Metkayina physical differences from the Omaticaya was both visually interesting and helped serve the story by emphasizing how isolated the Sully family is from their home, friends, and culture. Now they're in the position of being the aliens, both physically and spiritually. If you asked Cameron if there are desert and arctic na'vi races he'd probably say "Maybe. And maybe we'll see them if the story leads us there."
>>216866970it would make sense for her to fuck na'vi men during her "research"
>>216866987I was really disappointed we didn't get to see a new biome but I guess it makes sense that the ashland is just a wasteland
>>216866883Jake must have the twin gene so it would be cool if in the next movie Neytiri gives birth to twins
>>216866970The na'vi are totally monogamous (at least the ones that haven't rejected Eywa like the Mangkwan), so it's incredibly unlikely. Neytiri was the first na'vi to mate with a "demon."
>>216867039I'm glad that Jim killed off the original Quaritch and made Navitch, The original although badass, was somewhat of a one-dimentional jarhead, and with Navitch becoming his own person Stephen Lang has much more to work with
>>216867109>The na'vi are totally monogamousThat's what Neytiri says, why would one believe her words when she just claimed Jake for herself like 5 minutes ago? If anything, Na'vi are shown to be as imperfect as humans are on a personal level. I'm sure they're not as chaste as they tell you
>>216867109they can have sex without mating
>>216867109I bet Grace seduced young na'vi guys and gave them "private lessons" heh
shame Tsu'tey's parent's weren't in the movie. They got expelled after trying to kill Jake and joined the ash na'vi. Would be hilarious if Neytiri ran into them while undercover. Tsu'tey has a brother too
>>216867163Oh, so that's what her school was all about...
>>216867234>they never made a little girl Neytiri model so they used the adult model standing next to her older sister that looks younger than her
>>216867234RDA, release the Dr. Grace files NOW!
>>216867234Na'vi straight shota...
>>216866970I think in the original 1995 script/story she had a Na'vi lover iirc
>>216867121agreed, but I was disappointed to see his character be stagnant in avatar 3.
>>216867154>Na'vi are shown to be as imperfect as humans are on a personal levelMaybe, but I don't think we've been shown any examples of them engaging in casual hookups and it seems kind of the opposite of how they've been portrayed (as OVERLY conservative rather than permissive). They don't even share ikran.
>>216867345Where can I read about the original 1995 story?
>>216867353Stagnant how? He goes through a whole journey of discovering himself as a separate being from the dead man whose memories he was implanted with. Jake made sure to nurture and feed that bug that already was there in Navitch' head in TWOW
give us fucking barbarian Jake
Probably a very unpopular opinion, but imo Grace's Avatar is much sexier than any of the Water tribe women
>>216867426Holy shit.
>>216867402maybe I should watch it again but the script felt disjointed with too much stuff thrown in. Felt like we didnt get proper build up to a lot of stuff.
>>216867362https://screencraft.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Avatar-Scriptment.pdfA few of the names are different (Jake and Neytiri are Josh and Zuleika) and not every concept made it to the final movie
>>216867426>Ha-ha, Eywa laughs at your Volcano
I just rewatched the 2nd movieHoly FUCK does it look old compared to Fire and Ash, ESPECIALLY the facesdidn’t think that 3 years could make such a difference but boy is it obvious
>>216867437>>216867487barbarian gigachad Jake with a machinegun and pregnant Neytiri clinging to him
>>216867496That's why Jim delayed Fire and Ash a whole year. So they could refine the effects
Jake's kids may be genetic abominations but at least they can comprehend conditional hypotheticals
>>216867431does nothing to me, Tsireya is hotter
>>216867555I mean Jake can't have an IQ above 95. Neytiri is smarter though
>>216867555Funny how human DNA turns na'vi into übermensch. What did Eywa mean by this?
I thought FAA was awesome until about 5 minutes after I walked out and realized that it's the last Avatar we're gonna get for the next 4+ years. I really wish it closed more threads now because other than introducing Varang and the Mangkwan, it really did feel like the second half of TWOW.
>>216867617>Funny how human DNA turns na'vi into übermenschImagine being Varang and seeing this after a lifetime surrounded by dyel twinks. Must've been surreal for her
>>216867691well she did want to take him as a sex slave
>>216867686The Mangkwan were a highlight and, like nearly all Avatar villains, made the movie watchable. >if the humans met the Ash People first, shit would have been different.
>>216867686yeah I hope there will be something to fil the void until december 2029.And no more shitty comics please. They could at least make some good ones
>>216867426Hair looks way better here. Than those godawful dreadlocks.
>>216867453>>216867402By my count I'd say he changes a lot, it's just that he never dwells on or introspects about it much. Which is equal parts in line with his character and very funny. He hasn't really been forced to make a big ultimatum yet as Jake was ie. saving Spider requiring completely betraying the RDA. I'm sure he will soon.
>>216867431I think Varang is the hottest, but some of that might be demeanor and body language, not just character design.
>>216867724She was definitely very attracted to him right from the start, even before he offered her human weapons. It's actually surprising how well "Love from the first sight" trope works for these two weirdos
>>216868067getting a gun to her head was really hot. Quaritch is also a proper gentleman
>>216867234>they called me sa'nok... "mommy"
>>216867431It's the 'firm athlete's breasts' that do it.
>>216868067They were both in to each other the second Varang mind raped him.
>>216868067Seeing Quaritch, this super sexy alpha male command the scene was hot as fuck. I understand why Varang got so wet. Even I felt a little throb when he came in shirtless flapping his massive dick around. Goddamn, now that's a real man
>>216868199It was definitely the second after he managed to break the connection, only a strong-willed person can do it. Her whole demeanor changes, she becomes intrigued by this "strong skyman" as she literally calls him that.
>>216868312what does she do exactly with her mind rape powers anyway
>>216867885I'll be able to kill some of the time by running chatbots where some background Mangkwan takes me as her pinkskin pleasure slave and other such scenarios. That'll keep me alive for a while.
>>216868333cause pain and read the victims mind, as it happens a pretty useful asset for Quaritch
>>216866665Look at this drip
>>216868341I need some good avatar rule34. I'm struggling here. Even with the game there's nothing.
>>216868114>Quaritch is also a proper gentlemanDude's a pimp. Even in mortal danger he's still holding her shoulder while coaching her, man can't help himself
>>216868333The recipient is forced to spend 1 second emotionally experiencing her deranged femchudcel mind as she dives into the recipient's. It causes great pain to a lesser being but to Quaritch it's an aphrodisiac.
>>216868384Quaritch was a giga chad back in Earth. You can tell he knows exactly what to do. Only a true man of experience can pull shit like this off this well
>>216868312What rape does to a man's kind
>>216868374Bussin
>>216868419>deranged femchudcelIt would be an aphrodisiac for me also.
>>216868459Where's the webm of him dying?
>>216868374>skin blistering, raw and peeling from severe sunburn>fine the next scene
>>216868383I am absolutely surprised that there isn't more porn of this movie, and I'm really, REALLY surprised no femanons have self inserted as a "poor little human", the Mangkwan are way more sexual??? if thats the word(at least Varang) , than a regular na'vi.
>>216868459AYO THE DOMINICAN'S BACK
>>216868555The fact that there's not even a porn community really tells you how hard Avatar failed to create a fandom.
>>216868555Be patient. You do have to wait a couple of weeks for the starving artists to illegally watch the movie online and for them to start making material.
>>216868555There wasn't enough sexual energy in the first two movies while this one is glowing it. There will be porn now
>>216868595Pretty sure there is one. The material they make might not be saved and archived on R34 .
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>>216868555The porn of it I've seen is pretty disappointing.The proportions are all off.
>>216868281I love how realistically he behaved as far as psychedelics go too. The little fascinated laugh/exhale he does when Varang starts to go into her monologue was so fucking real. You know Lang is that nigga.
>>216868428Charismatic southern military officer is a kino trope and Lang is great at it
>>216868555I'm cool with it. Nothing beats a gourmet chatbot you cook up for yourself anyways. But like the other anons said, I'm sure there's about to be way more art starting now. Hopefully some tasteful artist develops a Varang fixation.
>>216868894>Kiri is a clone of an avatar with 10% human DNA or whatever>Spider is a full human with Eywa-derived fungus in his ballsThey're going to create la creatura d'Eywa aren't they
>>216868894I think showing the Na'vi as not being monolithic or one-dimensional by showing different tribes who believe different things helps make them more interesting.
>>216869013Their kid is going to be a 10ft tall human with psychic powers
>>216869013Le 56% na'vi face...
This is probably a dumb question, but why are the Mangkwan more male than other tribes? Does Varang like having a reverse harem?
>>216868730Writing this post made me watch the scene again and I caught something I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone else point out yet. When he's psycho-truth-serum'd up, Varang asks Quaritch if he wishes to serve her, to which he replies that he serves no one. That's interesting, since of course on paper he serves the RDA, all of his superior officers, fronts as mr. soldier boy, and so on. But in his heart, when he can speak only truth, he says fuck that shit. It's of course obvious throughout the latter films that that's where this is going but I found it neat that you essentially have it confirmed in one line there.
>>216868067Ah shit, damn watermark. Here's a better version
>>216866979haha this nigga buying toys
Jake and Varang kuru-fight when?Neytiri and Varang kuru-fight rematch when?
>>216869064They were never monolithic nor one dimensional. They even warred with each other. But they all followed their real, tangible deity. What you wanted is a tribe that rejected religion and instead sided with the white man invaders. This will of course lead to their eventual destruction and conquering of the savage land to profit the settlers. It's a classic happy ending for the white man, and a tragedy for the natives. So it makes sense you'd find that more interesting.
>>216866979Can you see Neytiri's nipples?
>>216869223They're all baldies so its hard to tell sometimes but from what I recall anytime there's a group of them you see a decent amount of bitches too.
>>216866979I never bought a McFarlane figure, how's the quality?
>>216869228Yes, I caught this too. I said this previously a few days ago, Quaritch is not really a soldier at heart, he's not meant to be loyal, obedient zogbot. He has a warrior's spirit, he's a conqueror. At his truest self, he's a warlord who wants to fight, fuck and drink
>>216869318NTA but I have. Not a huge fan.Nicely detailed but that's about it in my experience.
>>216869356
>>216869537why is her acting so bad in this
>nooo you can't be a hecking chud!!>but MaJake I DO hate pinkskinned skydemons!
>>216869537>>216869356>That thousand yard stareLyle here looks like he's got PTSD from Quaritch' shenanigans throughout the movie
You guys think we're going to see any good human characters ever again? Every single human introduced in the last two movies is either a cartoon character or a cardboard cutout. Also, if there's a timeskip in 4, what do you think is going to happen to allow it? You kind of have to set up a static situation first and everything still seems completely chaotic as they stand right now
>>216866902My man asking the important questions.
>>216867426James you sneaky bastard
>>216869686The time skip is going to reveal that things are worse than ever. The human city is enormous now, there's a dozen more popping up, another wave of human colonists has come flooding in with reinforcements. The Na'vi have been driven even further away by the humans and Mangkwan. They were never going to win and it's only a matter of time before Pandora is colonized and run into the ground. It's why Neytiri eventually ends up heading to the dead Earth
>>216869013spiders mother is mexican
>Avatar 4Na'vi of the ice, eskimos and sami anologies, they kill alien seals and even though the others navis find it horrible they will say how it's part of their culture and social right.>Avatar 5Na'Vis will enter the space age and become like the humans they fought so badly.Pandora will be polluted, they will start colonizing another planet.And so the cycle starts again.Also Eywa will be proved to be a neuro-abomination that sent it's spores on earth and created the myth of God, Jesus, Zeus, Odin, Shiva, Quetzalcoatl and whatever else there is.
>>216869845How is Neytiri supposed to stop the colonizers by going to Earth?
>>216869686That RDA guy on the loading dock who catcalled nateyeri will become a small tertiary plot about naavi who fuck human men, same way "but the whales" guy had his contribution expanded after establishment.
>>216869995Cameron, why haven't you made Alita 2 yet?
>>216869845I've seen many people claim the last one is set on Earth. Was there a legit leak or is this a group schizo?
>>216869845>It's why Neytiri eventually ends up heading to the dead EarthAm I tripping or wasn't there talk at one point about human avatars being how they're going to pull this off? Either in the big leaks from a few years ago or one of Cameron's long-form magazine interviews. Because the logistics of her actually going to Earth seem impossible
these movies are so gay
>>216870063These are the straightest movies made in the past 40 years.
>>216870044https://gizmodo.com/avatar-5-plot-james-cameron-pandora-earth-jon-landau-1849854542
>>216870044Thank fucking God she decided against doing a nosejob, it'd ruin her unique look and would've made her just like thousands of same Hollywood plastic dolls
>>216866665>>216869845Where are they even going with this plot? There's no way the Na'vi can defeat the humans unless Eywa has some asspull Deus Ex power that destroys all the humans and their infrastructure. Are they going to learn how to co-exist, with Na'vi being relegated to reservations? Are the humans going to completely win and destroy the na'vi? I can't imagine the ending being very satisfying if there is only two movies left.
>>216870079This. No wonder the journos and redditors hate them. They promote family values, healthy relationship dynamics, traditional "to be a father is to protect" masculinity, and the main antagonist is an unapologetic Gigachad who does whatever the fuck he wants. These movies are not boring, they're a breath of fresh air in a desert of pozzed capeshit.
>>216869974>We find naavi in the frigid north >They're also based and arms length from aewapilled due to climate >Fight humans, want human weapons, are amenable to peace and trade in assault rifles, distilled spirits, and husbandos >Lyle gets to score and she loves playing Xbox
>>216867268That was weird for me too. Kek.
>>216870110I think in 4 the humans will become like Spider, but instead of it allowing them to conquer Pandora more easily, it will cause them to become in tune with Eywa. Then I think in 5 an expedition will be sent to Earth to spread Eywa there and stop the planet from dying.
Are we on track for the 2 billies bros?
>>216870110>Eywa is already a planet-wide biological supercomputer that communicates with electrical signals>Spider and Kiri's kid learns both ways equally>Teaches Eywa how to interface with computers and machines>Bring Eywa seed to Earth and start cultivating it>Hacks the planet, taking over computer networks and communications systems>Earth can now begin to heal under Eywa 2.0's guidanceBam, there's your saga conclusion
>>216870159I wasn't in to the idea of just being like "here's more tribes from different climates" but the idea of Na'vi living where there isn't much plant life to connect to the global network through is a fun idea. Though it strikes me as more of a comic thing than a movie thing.
>>216869974>EywaNo she turns out to be a alien who somehow changed the whold planet like a parasite
>>216869974Avatar 4 will be filling out the rest of Pandora with them traveling with the wind Navi again. Avatar 5 will be them traveling to Earth and that will top off the Sully saga.
>>216870418Holy cute.
>>216870418Kek
>>216870418I should've become an artist bros
>>216870434Did they ever mention what happened to Sully's original human body?
>>216870418Thats adorable.>>216870541Probably buried under the Tree of Souls or something like that.
>>216870524it's not too late bro, everyone can be an artist
>>216870541His human body's buried somewhere. I think by the Tree of Souls. He was known to have a breakdown from suffering an identity crisis or something.
>>216870665why didnt cameron put this in the movie
>>216870665>>216870740I had a redditela effect moment a few months ago because I could swear I saw a scene where they lay his human body to rest in a deleted scene or featurette on one of the blu rays or something, but it was never filmed. I don't even think it's in the screenplay.
>>216870814Soul.
>>216870541They ate it>>216870665Non canon
>>216866902Based NormHe can experienment everything, >human male- human female>human male- navi female>navi male- human female>navi male- navi female
>>216870740Because it would have been a less interesting version of Quaritch crushing his own skull.
>>216870110I'm thinking that the humans will win in 4 but then in 5 all the Na'vi will do a great ritual, giving all their power to Kiri who will sacrifice herself to Eywa who will create a giant magnetic pole shift on Pandora destroying all humand and stopping any more ships from orbiting.
>>216867234GIWTWM
Kinda weird how you had Altered Carbon, Cyberpunk 2077, and TWOW all coming out within the span of a 3 or 4 years, all heavily focused on saving someone's memories/consciousness onto a chip and transferring it into a new body.
>>216870110Humans have been shown to be able to:>grow a kuru>breathe on Pandora>fully interface with Eywa >fully interface with Pandoran wildlifeThey will be shown to be able to>reproduce with na'viand the entire series is built on human/na'vi romantic relationships and asking the questions: What makes a human, human? What is a soul? Are our physical forms incidental to what really matters, the soul? Can we all choose to live different lives, to enter a new world and learn what life really is? It's all leading up to humans and na'vi becoming one people, united by blood and spirit and faith.
the real Jake died during the soul "transfer"Eywa is a computer, it's just a cut paste of data on the hard drive (brain)when the hard drive have too much defective sector, it fail, like how Grace failed the transferThe "afterlife" is just eywa making shit since it have a copy of everyone
>>216871468Earth Humans will never become one people with the Na'vi because it requires making some hard sacrifices: they will need to give up never-ending growth. They can't just continue to breed endlessly so there's 100 billion people. They can't destroy all the forests, empty all the oceans of life, pollute the air, and fill the world with plastic trash. If humans were to settle there, it would only be for like a few million and they'd have to remain around the max population number Eywa sets. She is the guardian that maintains the balance on the moon so it lives perpetually.
>>216871633hurr durr
>>216871633He didn't die though. His soul transferred to his avatar. Pretty neat.
>>216871700That's why Eywa will Pandoraform Earth instead
>>216871088>>navi male- human femaleRare, but based.
Avatar's Earth reminds me of that song from the Repo stage play where the Graverobber sings about how planetary migration failed and they had to build floating cemeteries in the sky to hold all the dead. Maybe that's what they needed the unobtanium for.
>>216871743is this nigga confusing jake with quaritch?
>>216869301They are fully modeled.
>>216872040that's the audience for these movies
>>216872040he might be talking about spider
>>216871700One of the leaked potential titles for one of the sequels was "The Seed Bearer." Like >>216871717 said, they're going to go to Earth and plant a seed of Eywa to terraform it.
not only can it not beat indians but it can't even beat the other two movies and a children's cartoon
>>216871743What family? He only has a shitty son who actively avoids him and act like an ungrateful shit whenever he saves his ass.
>>216871088It would have been hilarious if Trudy had lived and Norm married her in his human form then had his Na'vi wife for his Na'vi form
>>216872110I wish Trudy came back, imagine na'vi Michelle Rodriguez that would be hot as fuck
I AM THE FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>216872133I can only get so hard anon.
Legs status?
>>216872335Strong. Feel them.
>>216870266If they made Avatar spinoff books I would buy all of them. The comics that are out now kinda suck. You would need to get those french guys that draw BDs to give the setting the artwork it deserves.
>>216871468So valen is gonna travel through time and save them, got it.
>>216872335https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECEz3a4GErE&
What's up, cutie
>>216872655>DAH!
>>216872655>Neytiri: Hisssss!>Soldier: Me-ow! Kitty didn't get her din din?
great Jim interview with Michael Biehn from two days agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vEYRARBXxk
>>216872655>That hiss she makes to say she wants me I love naavi girlsI love em!
>>216872699He looks good for 71.
OUTTA MY WAY PINKSKIN FUCKING SHITS
>>216872699>Cameron: you couldn't pay me enough to return to the Alien franchise
>>216872046Show us the figure anon. We must know.
>>216872907Don't show Neyney this pic
What are the odds that all of the wildlife on Pandora have those USB ponytails purely because of Eywa infection and not because of their innate biology?Like, sure, they might not need eywa to breathe like Spider did, but eywa was literally able to assimilate him into the mind-meld stuff in like 20 minutes.
>>216872216noisy group of vigilantes I bet
>>216872655being a human in the avatar verse must be insane because like holy shit there's a cat-girl planet!?
>>216873300She’s sort of in denial about that and Jake even calls her out over it.
>>216873375>noisy group of vigilantes I betThey were Na'vi
>>216873442Reminds me of what I overheard in the movie theater lobby: "the navi probably see every human the way we see Indians".
>>216873442This was the best part of the movie.Little pink hands kek
>>216872699Jim predicts AGI aka SKYNET in two to five years...
>>216873542Fire and Ash had some fun new characters, but rehashing the same set pieces was a bridge too far.I get that he likes the ocean, but come on bro.bro. bro.
>>216873518I thought that line was funny too.
>>216873564I GOT YOU BRO
>>216873588I really enjoy how racist Neytiri is.Her meltdowns are usually a highlight
>>216873643COME ON CUZ
Any other avatards playing Frontiers of Pandora. The open world Pandora is pretty amazing
I miss him, bros.
>>216873643>>216873664>>216873757BROS
>>216873775I demand a scene in Avatar 4 where Rotxo asks how he died>you got shot by a crab mech>Rotxo: bro, no cap? Fr fr?
>>216873798Kek, or just have him wave to someone visiting the spirit realm and all he says is Bro.
>>216873826they already joke about this in the movie>"We have to keep going! Tuk, what do we always say about the Sullys?">"...Sullys stick together?">"NO THE OTHER ONE"
did I speedwatch or did they ever explain why humans were even allowed to come back and settle as much as they did. It feels like a big damn plot hole to me. First movie already had Eywa send the damn hordes. But then they decide to just have her let the humans come back, touchdown, and build a fucking polluting city? Anyway, fire and ash feels more like a part 2 of way of water instead of a 3rd movie. For better or worse. Wish they didn't try to fake out Navitch like that, it would've been fine to just have his girlfriend save him and see them fuck off.
>>216869223i think the lore reason is because the tribe mostly expands by recruiting outcasts and criminals from other tribes. but yeah it's just as the other anon said, with their gay haircut and full body paint it's kinda hard to tell the male and female apart just from a glance
>>216868555Porn artist here, there's no demand. I've made Avatar art, and even the popular stuff is niche. I think if Avatar were released between 1988-2002, there'd be hardcore Avatar fans and more explicit stuff, but it feels very behind the times, conceptually. Blue cat elves would've flown on the early internet, but in 2020's? There's way more to be horny for.
>>216873883The way they landed their ships in the second movie.They burned the forest where the ships landed and they had swarm bots that could put up a building in a week.
>>216873883Yes, you did speedwatch. And not the brightest bulb in the shed. You're one they are forced to make long, drawn out exposition scenes to explain everything in minute detail for and you still don't get it
>>216873902Post some links so I can judge. I was always interested in very accurate porn, but most of it was exaggerated hips and tits and such.
>>216873757WaaaaaAaaeeEeeAaaaEeeAaaaaa
>>216870418It's literally just this scene.>>216873883RDA use nukes at the beginning of the second movie and basically blast a giant dead zone that they then secure a perimeter around. That's how they can build the city unmolested by Eywa. (Well, obviously their supply lines get pretty harassed, but you get it.)
>>216870418Why would a Navi know? That's why she asked the skyperson Spider first
>>216870222$1.7-2b is right on target
>>216873883>did I speedwatch or did they ever explain why humans were even allowed to come back and settle as much as they didLiterally the first scene of the 2nd movie. The expedition scale is just so much bigger this time around because the goal is specifically to build a colony instead of just mining (plus they preemptively torched the forests around the landing zones so there'd be no animals to send)
>>216873918That ship landing was so fucking dumb; the ISV's literally were not built to withstand an atmosphere. My guess is that the writers and science guys had the RDA use warheads but Cameron is such a boomer that he didn't wanna show nukes working or being useful, despite the fact that Bridgehead is OBVIOUSLY powered by fission, if not fusion.
>>216873757who?
>>216873971She literally asks that exact thing to Lo'ak verbatim
>>216873757Tsu'tey was awesome. Him translating Jake's speech was more hype than anything in the last two movies other than maybe the humans returningThe Omaticaya in general mog the other na'vi hard
>>216873999You're an idiot that thinks they're smarter than they are. It's Cameron's fucking ships. He had them designed by real engineers with plausible science. He's been to the bottom of the ocean in his own submarine. He knows far better than your dumb ass what they can handle. Dipping down into some calm air to hover at 1G along the same normally tensioned axis while dropping off some cargo then ascending to orbit is not some crazy outlandish feat, imbecile.
>>216873902>Netyri sucks The simple truth. And they, until now, failed to establish any other female characters with presence. Or that wouldn't vanish you to the ATF shadow realm. Rule of 3 applies to most series to be the minimum for true lewd posting. Avatar just got it's 3rd female character if you count lolibaba sigourney weaver now that she's legal in Pandora years. The fish women didn't land at all. The teen has 0 art and prego mom has like 5 graven images in 5 years. And no sfm porn.>Varang already had a viable 3d model made before the movie was even out And a lora for slopmaking We really should have had 6 or even 9 characters as a "roster" by now but the female characters that haven't been varang or netyri have gotten minutes of cumulative screentime in 9 hours of movie.
>>216873999>"...so it'll give you about a couple megatons per warhead, though it'll usually be split among multiple re-entries; now, we usually mount these on those big missiles you need the keys to launch but sometimes they'll be on tactical weapons..."
>>216874088How the fuck is dipping your long range transport ships into a turbulent atmosphere to blast ultra-radioactive slag all over your landing site more logical or plausible than using a nuclear warhead as a daisy cutter?I'm not denying that the ISV is a realistic spaceship; I'm saying that using it that way is fucking stupid and you know that.
>>216873757He didn't fly so good
>>216867268Why not make Sylwanin younger that would make Ney hate pinkskins more than an older sister dying
>>216874101>Indo-European "sky father vs. earth mother" cosmology but it's a global hive-mind fungus vs thermonuclear weapons
>>216873995People who get mad at the humans losing in the sequels aren't paying to the big picture. Some literal boats and probably fewer than 200 total human deaths is inconsequential in the big picture. It's like the British losing a handful of patrols on the New York/Canada border and thinking the Indians are going to capture Boston.
>>216874082Unironically, his actor was far better than any of the new Navi we've seen except for Varang.
>>216874199Movie 3 is like the battle of islawanda where a thousand British died deleting a third of the Zulu nations military. Before the squid ex machina the assembled naavi had gotten slaughtered by the ash tribes inexplicable ability to actually kill things that would die to human weapons. With bridgehead and the thousands of men shown to live there being completely fine outside of a damaged refinery complex a lot of people will be very mad at the unexplained massive expansion of man (again)
>>216874199The one valid complaint: why didn't General Carmela get off the boat with everyone else after specifically giving the order to scram?
>>216874101She would have loved to have seen the ships landing.
>>216874415It's revealed in one of the comics, but at the time she was under official investigation for possibly embezzling $40,000 from an ikran feeder, so her death may have been suicide.
>>216874415I’m guessing either as commander she wanted to be last off the ship, or the lifeboats were being wrecked by squid and whatnot. Would’ve been nice if they took a second to explain though.
>"Varang my cupcake I brought a book for us to read together. I think you're going to like it"
>>216874012>>216874415Two whole movies and she didn't get a single scene that was as badass as any of Quaritch's in the first movie. I feel like that was a bad move by Cameron. There was space for two antagonists. The new human commander should have been someone respectable not a joke
>>216874511That seems like a strangely small amount.>>216874536Yeah, or at least given her more of a heroic death. I like that the Aussie guy got to go out like Captain Ahab.
>>216874559Also having Quaritch be incredibly strong and capable but still get hurt helps sell the idea that Pandora is absolutely lethal to humans, something that Spider's continued presence makes harder and harder to believe.
>>216874536>as commander she wanted to be last off the shipReally dumb since she's not an admiral nor captain of that ship. Her responsibility is to Bridgehead City, the overall human force on Pandora, and the entire human colonization effort. That bitch should have been off quick and the actual boat captain could go down with the ship.
>>216874623Cameron probably should have made these guys a little more badass. Most went down like storm troopers.
>>216870159based Haida enjoyer
>>216874623The first movie made it feel like every human on Pandora was potentially moments away from death at all times. Jake is a combat veteran force recon marine and everyone instantly accepts that he's dead if he has to spend one night out there. At the same time, humanity still felt untouchably powerful. Jake and Grace desperately pleading that the Omaticaya have no conception of what's coming and the slow buildup to the hammer being dropped is more impactful than any of the battle scenes we've gotten in the sequels.>>216874559Quaritch was fantastic in the first one. His presence dominated every all-human scene he was in. He wasn't just some meathead who looked big in shirt sleeves; he really came across as an exceptional man who was fully aware of the responsibility on his shoulders but also absolutely confident in his ability to carry it. If there's one huge criticism I would make, it's that every single adult who's a real character is now CGI. It's all sugar with no salt.
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>>216874623>Spider's continued presence makes harder and harder to believe.The face that his bones are not natural carbon fiber weave.
>>216874548>her face when Quaritch reads her the landslide slaughter of Captain White and his menYes. Yes.>her face when the attack on the Gileños villageYes, Quareetch! Leave no woman and child alive!>her face when the alpha bear takes a Delaware scout alive and her face when the Glanton Gang find the Vandiemenlander and the remaining Delawares scalped and hanging upturned>her face when the Yuma raid on the Glanton GangYES! YES! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! SCALP AND FLAY AND BURN THEM ALL, QUAREEEEETCH!>Quaritch becomes visibly unnervedHaha. Yeah. That's enough story time for now, Cupcake.>Varang pouts and folds her arms like a spoiled kid, her cheeks bulged.Aw, but Quareetch!
>>216875052It’s hilarious that he calls her “cupcake”.
>>216874935Yeah, it goes to show that all of the effects are lost without a strong narrative core that they all serve cohesively.The scene in the first one where Neytiri actually holds human Jake for the first time after he's almost choked to death on the air truly manages to express how vastly alien the humans and the navi are to each other. Contrast how Spider and Kiri aren't even that different height wise and how everything in the ocean seems weirdly non-threatening to the point that humans can just jet around in mini-subs taking potshots.
>>216874101Ain't no fire like nuclear fire.
>>216875272They could have made a movie where Jake and co. have to go into a really dangerous region with lots of dangerous predators and a really hostile tribe of Na'vi, but instead we got more harmonious whale slop with some angry squid.
>>216875272Cameron made Avatar without knowing that he would ever be able to return to that world. It was his baby and he knew he had 1 shot to make it count, so everything in that movie is as close to perfect as he could make it. Now he has a blank check and doesn't have to consider anyone else's opinion about anything. So he's free to focus on the things he values most and de-emphasize the stuff he doesn't think is important. So the series went from 80s style sci fi action to fantasy space opera and as a consequence the villains became flatter and less formidable, Pandora became more tame, the na'vi became less alien, and kids began to share centerstage with the adults. It's Jim's true vision for his universe, but it's not what the first movie was.
>>216875052>hears the Judge's interpretation of war>war being god>"Yessss, Quareeetch! This storyteller...he gives voice to my feelings! War is what decides truth! Not the false goddess Eywa!"
>>216872335Great, but still grossing worse than A28 Million less in China compared to A2 First week
>>216873730Played last yearGonna buy the fire and ash dlc these days
>>216874935And even the first movie was toned down somewhat. If you read the 1995 story outline it feels like humans are barely hanging on by their fingernails.
>WW box office at 483 millionNo 500 million for Jimmy? No leggie-weggies, hmm?
Swiss Family Pandora.
>>216869810What a deep cut reference. Love that flick.
>>216872216>Fresno
>>216872655Why is there no art of Neyney in her funeral getup?
>>216866665I'm seeing an appeal.
>>216877944I hope Jake gets a new hairstyle in the next movie because his dreads looked kinda shit
>>216874174because Sylwanin was supposed to be the next tsahik and marry Tsu'tse and Neytiri had to reluctantly fill those roles
>>216866902Based midget porno enthusiast
>4 years until we can return to Pandora.Why?? I can't wait so long.
So now Quaritch will go and find Varang and what do you think he will do i the next movie? Keep trying to take his son from Jake and Neytiri? But Spider isn't going to want that.
>>216878131Please understand, bombing the Japanese is more interesting to him now
>>216877769I dislike the lack of Neyney art in general
How do you think Jake and Neytiri will go to Earth? They get help from someone in the RDA and get into a ship or how?
>>216870110To me the endgame seems to be Eywa revealing herself in the flesh to stop some sort of conflict which will in turn lead to humans and na'vi to actually coexist
>>216879545>Eywa revealing herself in the fleshKiri already exists, dumbass.
>>216879629We know for a fact Eywa and Kiri are two different beings in the sense that both exist at the same time. With that said, it's clear Kiri is meant to be Eywa's eventual replacement. At least that's my current read on it
>>216879709Why would Kiri replace Eywa?
>>216879709You understand how God and Jesus are both one and two, right?
>>216879834Actually no, literally nobody understand how that is supposed to work
>>216879834>you understand [catholic heretic babble]
Giant plane that costs billions of dollars destroyed by a single arrow to the propeller.Are the humans supposed to be dumb or something? How difficult is to put a metal protector to the propellers?
>>216879489Taken aboard as ships cats
>>216880091>this thing operates on the flow of air>let's just obstruct that airflow, surely it won't affect lift at all
>>216873730Bought it last week with the Fire dlc (not the other two). The surround sound is nuts, I can locate the ground pounding machines from 300 m away by ear.
>>216880188Air can flow through metal with little holes you know.
>>216880299you have no fucking idea man. i fly fpv drones, and while 360 propeller cages IS an option, like 99% of pilots choose to not put on those 50gr or so extra weight because of just how much those seemingly insignificant pieces of plastic fucks with your maneuverability (and drains your battery). the extra protection on your props aren't worth it if it severely impedes the main job of your aircraft which is to fucking fly
are there any tulkun in this one?
>>216880563More than before. It's a stupid, female-led society trying to keep Payakan down
>>216873757Tsu'tey bros. He deserved better. But he's in peace with Sylwanin now.
>>216881212Sylvanas Windrunner?
Ok so get this.... the Na'vi.... invade Earth.
>>216866665Doing it with Kiri in front of Spider
>NOooOoOOoooOOO
Why do people say this is anti white?>calls out neytiri racism as hypocrisy (BLM fraud) >Jake even tells her to embrace their own humanity >pigskin as a degrading slangJim woke up. This is his best movie since aliens
>>216879854Dont project your lack of understanding on everyone lmao
>>216873757Aaaaeeeeee aeeeeeeeee aeaeaeaeaaaaaa
>>216879489Maybe captured and shipped back to Earth to be executed
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>>216881987There was a group of black people in front of me in the theatre that "ooh"ed or giggled every time "pinkskin" was said. They definitely enjoyed seeing a culture with a meaningful slur for white people.
>>216880797what are those ridiculous chains and rings made of? the ones the matriarch whale wears.surely it's not metal
>>216882100they finally understood that racism is inherently funny
>>216873341100%, Spider grew a kuru out of nowhere once he got the fungal infection from Kiri. I think Eywa is more interesting as an alien parasite.
>>216882321The average American black is violently racist at a level that would get a white American a door kicked in from the FBI. "Pink skin" barely registers among the other stuff they say.
>>216882100>meaningful slurSouth Asians say that slur all the time, it's not new nor is it offensive coming from a race who's skin looks like literal shit - so I couldn't see it working in AVATAR either
>>216875655Imagine introducing her to the history of Earth, feeding her Earth cuisine, reading her philosophy and religious books of Earth, seeing her react to different things. As Quaritch gets closer to her she begins feeling more comfy letting out her cute side near him, she doesn't need to put up the facade of being strong around him only. I need a slice of life TV series starring Quaritch and Varang now.
>>216878474Quaritch and Varang will have a whole litter of evil children next movie. And they will hate their pinkskin step brother
>>216870418wagie Lo'ak...
>>216866665where do i download this movie and zootopia 2?
Among it's other problems, I feel like Jim wrote himself into a corner. Jake resumes being Toruk Makto, unites the Navi clans again and... they *lose* against a whaling operation.Eywa intervenes but all this does is wipe out the whaling op, the human city is still standing continuing on with it's thing, and they know humans can be adapted to the atmosphere. How are there stakes going forward? The combined power of Pandora can't take out a lone PMC
So now that Eywa is confirmed as a real, sentient, all-mighty being, Varang was totally right that Eywa abandoned them and let them intentionally starve?She could have just sent some of those amphibious squid to go jump on lava to give them calamari.Actually it seems every problem ever on Pandora was personally signed off on or at least tolerated by Eywa
>>216883113Yes, we knew that already since the last movie. This isn't star wars. They can't defeat the evil empire. There isn't a happy ending and the settlers will eventually flood pandora and destroy it. All they can do is to enjoy the paradise for what little time it has left.
It didn’t hit me until rewatching some bits of 3, but Grace’s Avatar body is still around, chilling in that tube in the lab. I can’t help but think that this will be important later (perhaps Kiri gets wounded and transfers her mind to her mother since she’s a clone, or something)
>>216883154No. Eywa has never worked that way. Eywa maintains balance and order of the ecosystem, that is it. If one tribe decides to genocide another, Eywa does not take sides. It is only now that Eywa has acted because the humans were an existential threat to the moon's overall ecosystem. And Eywa is not confirmed to be a being. It's an interface to a computer-like system that Kiri can now access and control. Just because your computer displays a friendly face when you log on doesn't mean it's alive
>>216870418cute, sauce me nigga
>>216883186I don't know, doesn't seem hard to motivate a scenario where the human settlers have had enough with corporate greed and incompetence and force a change in leadership to a faction that wants to preserve humanity and to do that they need to preserve Pandora.
>>216883206Sorry to ruin your fun, anon. But the real reason they keep it around is as an onahole for the humans there who don't have their own avatars.
>might gross +70 Million for the weekend>Between 650-750 Million by sundayAVATAR WON
>>216883453>mightOr it might not. It might FLOP HARD. Biggest drop off for the 2nd weekend of the year, how about that?
Varang totally demanded to try a cupcake after Quaritch explained what it meant, right?
>>216866665>>216872655It's kind hot how angry and racist Neytiri is the whole movie, if I know how, I would have commissioned a cg of her getting raped by humans
>>216884153>no porn of Neytiri having to please human men to infiltrate Bridgehead
>>216882665Fanfiction writers, I need it NOW.
>>216883995Yes, during off-screen pillow talk at the Bridgehead camp.
>>216883995She only likes the cinnamon cupcakes. Blueberry cupcakes disgusted her
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