No 2 billies fags, apologise.
why did jimbo wait three movies to gib us da waifu
>movie about racist white human getting with a bad alien bitch>makes quintillionsKEKARINO!
>>216914393varang is his light the beacons/gondor calls for aid moment. when everything seemed to falter, and the fandom was waning, and the hype was fleeting, he brought out the sexy dommy mommy "I'll cut off your penis in your sleep if you talk to other girls"-energy secret sauce and by Eywa, it made 3 billies!
The Avatar, he is Hindu, no? Blue, lika Shiva. Is a Hindu myth. Many, many arms. But James Cameron, he reverses, he reverses the limbs, like this he goes woop! and no more many arm, now is many legs. And the movie keeps making the money because it has legs, and I laugh, who think to do this? James Cameron, he think to do this, he dreams this maybe, and what else he dreams? He makes the Hindu god into the cat, everyone love cats! Ever since ancient Egypt we love the cat, it hunts the rat, it hunts the Mickey Mouse, and so they fear it, the Batmans and the Spider-Mans, they fear it, because the cat will kill them, and the cat is blue like the sky, always we look to the sky, we dream to fly, and what James Cameron do? He make the blue cats fly!He do everything we ever want!
>>216914344STOP THE COUNT
ZERO CULTURAL IMPACT
>>216914344How much of that is domestic?
>>216914344I geniunely didn't care about anyone in this movie but Varang and that guy from that TV show where they play in a band in a quirky way.
>>216914344Big news for the Indians
>>216914552Brother, please post that here >>216914276 too. We are uncovering depths previously thought impossible in real time.
>>216914664Just copy & paste, my Jodoposts are meant to be shared around
>>216914614Probably around 25-30% just like the previous 2
>>216914344tell me about varang, why does she wear the bald spot
>only a billyjek what a fucking flop
>>216914538>"I'll cut off your penis in your sleep if you talk to other girls"Why is this so fucking hot?
>>216914344He will honor the blood oath now, right?
>>216914934My theory is that Jim could've gotten A4-5 greenlit with the success of Way of Water but he's holding them hostage until he gets funding for Alita 2-3 and the studio will only give him his 4-movie deal if Fire and Ash is a megahit because the original Alita flopped
>>216914989That's probably it. It's very common that prestigious directors use a personal project as leverage against the studios when negogiating for future movies. I'm guessing after Fire and Ash, Cameron has proved that Avatar is not just a novelty but an enduring cinema series and Disney will probably oblige to whatever he asks for.
>>216914688Okay but is that taking inflation into account?
>>216914344so 3 billies then?
The best part about new Avatar movies is watching the autistics meltdown about how much money it makes and massive cultural impact it has.
>>216914344
These are not the billies you're looking for
>>216915320>Why do you keep watching those giant smurf movies when you should be watching me and my other grifter friends discussing how The Last Jedi ruined Star Wars forever for the 4th billion time!
>>216915448RLM's only acknowledgment of Fire and Ash's existence was calling it Fire and Ass.
>>216914344>Avatar 3 issmall potato.
>>216915490i was talking about this grifter
lol I haven't even been to see it once yet, going tm
>>216915517Was his movie better or worse than Space Cop?
>>216915517What's a grifter?
>>216915505avatar 1 and 2 made more then double of your movie and 3 is probably going to beat it as well
>>216915552Someone who takes money from people via dishonest means, in Critical Drinker's case he grifts people by spouting approved "based" opinions for easily impressionable incels
then why is it flopping?
>>216915552Someone of integrity who goes against the mainstream narrative to speak truth. It's part of the libtard nuSpeak where truth is lies and lies are truth.
>>216915143no, they are artificially lowering the number. It already grossed over 600 but they are saying it's 500m
those shilled (ok ur just that autistic) threads only ever talk about how much money these movies make. who gives a shit just enjoy it
>>216915552Leftist buzzword for 'person I don't like'
>>216915552Member of Jim Lee’s WildCATs
>>216915657It will have made double its budget by Sunday. Oh and it already outgrossed every Marvel flick this year lmao
>>216915490RLM should kill themselves
She won
>>216915517>critical drinker says the movie is average but will probably make a lot of money. (I saw his review)Movie is rated 66% on RT but is on course to make a billion dollars. Why is he a grifter again?
>>216916122He says the most basic, safe, outrage-baity things while using bait-tier thumbnails. He knows his audience of zoomers really well and always says what they want to hear. You can smell the stink of insincerity after a minute of watching his content
>>216916191>Basic, safe >Outrage baity Contradicted yourself in the first sentence lmao
>>216915737>global>still bombing domestically, the only place box office actually mattersLOL
>>216916358He baits his audience into being outraged about some woke shit #54353254325 and tells them what they want to hear about it. What's so hard to undertsand?
>>216916377>bombing domestically You monkeys just love making shit up huh
>>216916467The best thing about Avatar releases aside from the movies themselves is watching autistic faggots melting down about them. We've been here before and we'll see it again once A4 comes out.
The na'vi in Fire and Ash were so sexy I almost popped a boner in the kinoplex. Varang and Kiri are almost pornographic.
>>216916083She (and the CG team) carried the movie on their backs.
>>216915552A grifter is any retard divorcee who has no taste and therefore wishes aerith could've saved him from his life of loserdom
perfect example of what catering to foreign browns does to hollywood
>>216916377this your first Jimbo flick? His films are #1 at the box office for two months, that's his whole deal
>>216916548Yes, both she and Stephen Lang. Honestly some of the strongest on-screen chemistry I've seen
>>216916581These posts make me laugh. Like what do you mean 'foreign browns'? As in outside of the states? The country that's more brown than white now?
>>216916657obsessedbsessed
>>216916122>le zero cultuaral relefence>le 40k cringe speech>le camercon wastes his talent on le ferngully in spaceironic that for a guy criticising how the franchise is uncreative he literally does not voice a single original thought in the entire review.he also fails to mention any of the aspects taht make Avatar 3 special. The great potray of masculinity. the touching family drama, the outstanding visuals and creative designs and showdown that feels well desereved, serious and stoic in a world of reddit manchildren and Self-deprecating humor.
>>216916467>global box office
>>216914344its probably going to make more in profit then 2 simply because he could reuse a lot of the technology he created for Way of Water
>>216916741That image is only talking about domestic, can you people read?
>>216914604This, it's like Korean and Chinese manwha. You know they probably make millions and have some weird dedicated fanbase somewhere, but no Timmy, they're never becoming culturally relevant.Those Chinese stories about cultivating for 93029239 years to become a complex multiversal being are just background noise.
>>216916956Define 'culturally relevant'
>>216916956lol no. its gonna break every record by the last film. its like one of those pro wrestling matches that starts on fire and then they work holds for 10-15 minutes and then it gets to the end and you realize they've been building up to the finish for the whole time.
>>216916716>ironic that for a guy criticising how the franchise is uncreative he literally does not voice a single original thought in the entire review.Like 95% of all avatar criticism then? Hilarious how hard it makes retards seethe
>>216916716>The great potray of masculinity. the touching family drama, the outstanding visuals and creative designs and showdown that feels well desereved, serious and stoic in a world of reddit manchildren and Self-deprecating humorAnd an amazing, unapologetic Gigachad warlord of an antagonist who's so charismatic you can't help but root for him and his girlfriend to win
the butthurt haters are still seething
>>216914344todays reminder that 80%+ of people are barely sentient
>>216917379aww lil baby still mad that awengers isnt #1 all time
>>216917156i hope so much that 4 is all about him joining the navi and starting a new warrior tribe that just focuses on protecting pandora
>>216914447I skipped forward to the scene where quidditch gets it on with the alien baddie and then to the one where they bring the whatshisname to human city to be executed for being a race traitor and i choose to believe that the movie ended there and humans then proceeded to colonise pandora
>>216917332avatar 2 might get a re-release when avatar 4 comes out and then it could takeaway endgames second place
>>216917332I have only watched 7 of these and desu Avatar deserves to be at the top. I kneel.
>>216917513with the right marketing a Titanic re-release could overtake it as well
>>216914393Faggot, Ney'tiri is the god wife, and even in this one she runs this shit
>>216917658Chill out. Nobody is dissing Ney'tiri. More variety never hurts.
Just back from the movie.>The whale shit is finally over (thank fuck for that)>The annoying zoomers have been killed>The annoying zoomers that live have become good characters>The white male self-insert gets to become one of the Na'vi and have sex with Na'vi Jesus, only to get the N-word pass (Na'vi)>Ney'tiri goes full Punished Snake-Nun and is super fucking hot>Quaritch somehow has returned and has a sexy evil bitch >He dies, but it's already confirmed that he and his sexy evil bitch wife returnI thought there was a lot of great character development in this film.That's twice in a row that I've disliked the final fight between Jake & Quaritch though. He needs a better choreographer or something. I know they're supposed to be tired, but they're military men and it'd be much more interesting if they had some interesting dance-moves instead of two retards rolling around on the floor while everything is getting destroyed.
>>216916467>How BONKERS is it?We need to kill millenials
>>216917727Kill yourself, Pink skin. NOW!
>>216917791Also, I'll say again, this might be the whitest film I've ever seen. Are there even black people in it? Every single character seems to be white, and some of the navi that I think are black are actually just white zoomers.
>>216917877Also, this popped up when Neytiri saw my dick
>>216914552I was raping the box office.
>>216914552Please /tv/, make Jodo-posting a thing
>>216917877>little pink handsThe RDA isn't risking groids fucking things up for them
>>216917332>two Jurassic Worldswe're doomed
>>216917932this is hot
>>216917332The top 10 grossing movies of all time was so much more soul before the days of capeslop
>>216914344cultural impact bros...It's over
Based Jimbo found out the perfect formula for getting thirdies' money
>>216917332>2 avatars>2 jurassic world>the ghoulish cgi lion king movie>nigger cat>frozen 2We deserve death.
>>2169183933 Avatars soon
>>216917877>Are there even black people in it?Only some very minor characters. All the main male characters (Jake, his sons, Quaritch, Spider) are played by white actors. Meanwhile the main female cast are various brown women and Sigourney.
I've seen my wife's movie twice now, and may see it a third time before it leaves theaters. She deserves all the support I can give her.
/tv/: it'll flop it has no cultural relevance!!!/tv/ as the release gets closer: ok maybe it won't flop but it won't make anywhere close to the second movie it's on downward trend/tv/: as it gets released: ok maybe it'll eek out as much as the second movie but it'll still underperformThis boardisALWAYSwrong
>>216917877No asians either. I've only spotted a couple of pilots and that's it.
>>216916548>cg team carried a 100% computer animated filmbig if true
Jimbo always wins
>>216914552now every time I see the name H.R. Giger I read it in his voice
>>216917332>3 of 5 top grossing films are Cameron flicksIt's settled James Cameron is the greatest filmmaker of all time, right? There's no reasonable person who can argue differently, right? The man is clearly a genius.
Who the fuck watches this shit
>>216914604Enough about Dune.
>>216917465>baptized in water>this one ends with him diving into fire>next film is spirit>final film returns to earthQuartrich will likely finally become good, similar to Zuko's path being long and fraught with controversy before his baptism in fire. It's unlikely quartrich becomes a race traitor, just an avatar for righteous human interests. With how masculine the films are and the focus with balance, there is likely going to be a common Sky Father and a call for humans to balance and honor their Earth Mother. Cameron is a reasonable guy and just wants balance; he is a sub enthusiast not a luddite. It's been implied twice now that if RDA stuck to a sustainable whale harvest, they wouldn't have problems.
>>216916716>le 40k cringe speechMost cringe meme.>humanity destroyed Earth but they didn't do anything wrong ok???
>>216919813I saw it with my mom, sister, nephew and grandpa on Monday. I saw it a second time yesterday. My nephew is going to see it for a second time with his dad this weekend. My mom is going to see it for a second time with my stepdad this weekend. My two step brothers saw it, I assume with their wives, and one probably with his eldest child. At least one of my coworkers is going to see it.
>>216915448>Last JediThe irony is that Jake in this movie tries to kill Spider but there's no outrage because Avatar enjoyers aren't autistic.
>>216920035When my coworker sees it, she'll likely go with her husband too.
>>216920036No one likes spider
>>216914344It's sad that a once great Director, responsible for three of the best Sci-fi/Horror/Action films ever made with The Terminator, Aliens and T2, has spent almost 30 years making cartoon remakes of Dances with Wolves!!!FACT!!!
>>216914934rosa says it will
>>216920070he's like jar jar binks
>>216914344Holy shit, I've finally watched it. There is a lot of shit I could complain about regarding the movie's structure but I will still go see it one or two more times. Jimbo did it again. Two billies here we go again
>>216916653Looks like a video game.
>>216914344Why would anyone want to watch this?
>Avatar: Fire and Ash>look inside>more water content
>Just found out nearly half of the money Zootopia 2 has made so far ($560m) is from China The fuck lol
>>216917030It means "things I like".
>>216914344Am I misremembering or was Spider in tWotW fucking ripped? Because he has almost no muscle in the third movie and it's really distracting
Fire people were hardly in the movie. The last hour was the same fight, scene for scene, from Way of Water. Jake and Neytiri are shockingly bad parents. Quaritch needs to either die or not die. Should have spent more time with the traders, traveling the world and seeing new sights. Spider is the most competent character in the entire movie despite being a manlet with a ventilator. This movie was retarded. I give it an 8/10.
>>216917791Holy based, I could have written this post. I found TWoW frustrating and seeing the whale shit end and broccoli hair die were great. Neytiri is sexier than ever and in a constant sex-off with Chief Hello Kitty.>He diesOff-screen doesn't count, this is only a "death" if 4 & 5 didn't happen.I loved how much wise-cracking Quaritch was doing, he's becoming the main character.Sad how Lyle disappeared halfway through the film, I hope it doesn't turn out he's been killed. Despite being totally unwillling he was a loyal wingman for Quaritch's alien pussy arc, he deserves greatness.
Anyone got 'The Most Racist Man Alive and His Na'vi Girlfriend' image?
>>216914344Woah! Avatar has never made money before. This must mean it has cultural impact now right?
>>216921100Mah that guy walked out off screen, he's fine. He's setup to be the classic "you've changed man. Remember the marines?" And then either get in the way and die by big Q's gun or some other tragic means that leaves Q guilty and conflicted.
>>216921195Avatar is more of a spiritual experience, you live it in cinema and leave it there, and most certainly you don't share it with faggots
>>216920792yeah dude he was jacked as fuck and now he's dyel
FIRE FIRE UUUUUHHH FIRE FIRE UUUHHOOOHHH FIRE FIRE UWUUUU FIRE FIRE OWOOOOO
>>216920994For me it's the weird fact that every na'vi seems to act completely normal (by human standards even) except Neytiri who still acts like she's half-feral or something. It's like she got hard-locked into that character she had when Jake first met her, while every subsequent navi that they encountered just seems to act and converse normally.
>>216921267>when there's like three perspectives of sneaking up on the final hostage situation and Varang is there dancing around chanting "FIRE FIRE DEATH DEATH" the whole timeWas this bitch overstimulated from too many fireworks?
>>216921267thank you for your service
>>216921195Define 'cultural impact'
>>216921323She's into uncomplicated relationships and also fire and death.
>>216921323>Was this bitch overstimulated from too many fireworks?That must've been the biggest battle she had ever seen in her life so maybe
>>216914447Yes, correct.Cameron won.You lost, tranny.
>>216921323Definitely stimming, but it's also called maintaining morale.
>>216921298I laughed when her and the water mom were having a wife argument and then just started hissing at each other. But jokes aside Neytiri has way more PTSD and been through more shit than every other character in the film. Her realization of how far gone she was before running to Spider at the end was a good arc for her. If we get a 4th movie it will be nice to see an enlightened version of her.
>>216921298My cope: It's because the narrator in a3 (I don't remember how it was in a2) is Lo'ak and he overexaggerates certain thingsSame with RDA being so fucking incompetent that their massive force gets wiped by savages with stone age weapons and they can't do anything about it despite their tech and recon advantage, seriously those guys can see every whale in the cove but they don't see na'vi setting up a trap? But you could chalk that up to them being corpos and just not caring about doing things competentlyOr the scene with Toruk getting up after being shot fulll of arrows which is supposed to mimick Jake finding new will to fight and na'vi counterattack
>>216914344you can tell the box office numbers aren't being artificially inflated by how no one is actually talking about anything other than how much money it's making
>>216921429It was a bit of a stark turn, but he did save her husband so I thought it was good too. I always prefer when a racist character stays racist and I believe she will but now not to her own family.
>>216921444It's saturday morning cartoon logic. Don't think too much about it.
>>216921389Made up metric I made to cope over the fact my capeshit will never defeat Cameron
>>216921472Oh she's definitely going to gank the pink hands with prejudice, there's no doubt there. It's just that she learned Spider isn't the person to hate, and he's as much a part of her family as her biological kids are. Spider is accepted, finally. The rest of the pinkies can still get it.
>>216921470>He bet against Big Jim...AGAIN
>>216921429I think they kinda wasted that scene, either they should have Neytiri actually stopping Jake instead of just coming to him and Spider after the situation was defused or have Jake react much more strongly to the realization of what the fuck he considered doingAlso Spider is not a very good actor
>>216920994If you were making these movies from scratch, a human soldier falling in with a crew of alien mariners/traders who sail the skies of a bizarre planet on airships held up by giant floating jellyfish would have been a rock solid setup for a whole series. That easily could have been something Jack Vance wrote in the 60s or 70s.
>>216921544I agree that the scene wasn't executed very well... but then, none of them were. The only good movie in this franchise is still the first one, when the sense of discovery and adventure were at the forefront and it wasn't just 3 hours of miserable softcore torture porn of watching blue people's houses get burned and family members get tortured. And none of the actors are very good, lol. The franchise is thoroughly mediocre, which is probably why it's so easy to be entertained by. It's big, expensive, nice to look at, and empty at its core. But I still enjoyed it.
>>216916809Where does it say those are the domestic numbers? The tweeter’s name is “global box office” not “domestic”
>>216921544The entire point of that scene is to have an Abraham sacrificing Isaac symbolism. Jake even tries to call out to Eywa for guidance.
>>216921562I mean that setup alone would still be good for an Avatar sequel. The sky people were defeated in the first movie. 2 and 3 should have been about adventures in Pandora. The world is still beautiful, it's just submerged in all this corpo military bullshit that, frankly, isn't all that interesting. I just want to see more Navi, more fauna and flora, and more cultures. Instead we get glimpses of it before the marines show up again in their helicopters.
Why are normies like this?
>>216921529The moment when they wake up to Spider suffocating in the middle of the night and Ney just decides to wait it out instead of helping save him was brutal. Was that implying she misplaced those mask filters or am I overinterpreting?
>>216920712Hard to goon to proper furry porn with the Chinese government censoring so chinks gotta make do with the furry movie.
>>216921682The main problem with the franchise is that the planet is perfect for exploring but wherever you go it seems like it's the same tribal villages copy pasted with a slightly different theme.Those sky merchants looked like they come from some other franchise desu, it felt like a final fantasy thing. I wish the entire planet is like that. made out of cultures of various stages of "refinement" and so on. But Cameron just keeps defaulting to the same primitive native tribes vs colonizing humans shtick.That final battle in 3 felt like almost the same one from 2. I swear like 50% of the shots looked copy pasted from the second movie. Maybe he's going senile or something. I get that he likes water-themed bullshit but come on.
>>216921640Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>216921661And that's exactly why Eywa of Neytiri stopping Jake would work much better than him just kinda changing his mind
>>216921267
>>216921768Cameron has to reinforce the notion that the entire family is good. Jake changed his mind on his own, Neytiri changed her mind on her own. There was no "higher power" telling them to do it.
>>216921814Look at that goofy smile. What an idiot. God I love her.
They are gonna turn this guy into an anti-hero, arent they?
>>216921756it wouldnt make sense if you had people in the Renaissance or whatever, it would be just dumb and ruin the plot. Maybe if you had another planet with some backstory about the ancient Navi moving there 1500 years ago it could make sense
>>216921756I think what I disliked the most was how convinient everything played for the main characters and how lucky they were all the time, neither Jake nor Quartich dying after all that shit is just ridiculous at this point. Also in the span of the two movies there were way to many kidnappings.
>>216921860My prediction is that he is going to have a Big Boss arc in the forth movie. I can already smell the Man who sold the world edits.
>>216921896>in the span of the two movies there were way to many kidnappings.wait until you read about the 100 Years War
>>216921819Okay fair enough, that flew over my head, I still don't like that scene very much though
>>216915156RIP Lewis Hamiltonheadshotted by Neytiri
>>216921944Same guys getting kidnapped more than five times in a span of two movies is a lot different than lots of different people being kidnapped in the span of one hundred years, isn't it?
>>216921860like Vader saved Luke, he will save pandora.
>>216914393You had one for each.1: Neytiri 2: Kiri3: Varang
>>216920712Both are them aren't making a dent compared to U S A
>>216921851On second watch, I aprreciated how she fake cried and acted vulnerable when Quaritch first grabbed her, but was working on her escape.
>>216921968It must be some special kind of autism that made Cameron get back the same actual background grunts from the first movie to turn into the Avatars in 2
>>216914344>overperformingIn what way? That's 20 million less than Avatar 2 on the same day.
>>216922445Just like she "fake" shat her loincloth when neytiri had her by the USB?
>>216921814Why is she able to torture smurfs with her hair? What is that shit about all of a sudden
>>216921860Turn? He's fighting to kill a traitor to humanity without sacrificing his son.
>>216922490She outwitted Sharttiri and had her on the ropes in no time, Varang is just that good
>>216922445>On second watchimagine watching this slop twice kek
Why do MCU fans have such a vendetta against these movies?
>>216922490Watch it again. As she's acting that way, the camera cuts to a closeup of her deliberately moving her kuru to connect to Quaritch's, which is how she turns the tables. She also escapes Neytiri's hold pretty quickly, though I think she was really worried there.
>>216914604The cultural impact is in going to see them. It is weird they're only successful as movies. It's weird that it is common to see kids wearing clothes of other billion dollar franchises but not Avatar. I have seen Star Wars parodied and homaged my whole life but I have only seen Avatar mocked. Yet they keep making the money.
>>216922556When Jake tells him he's not quartich and that he's his own person with memories of a dead man... Do you think Jake thinks that about himself too?
>>216922579go watch your marvel movies faggot Eywa hates you
>>216915588>>216915517
>>216922637It's weird but seeing what franchising and whoring those franchises out leads to, I think it's for the best. I only worry that after the last avatar movie gets made they will be lost forever since noone ever brings them up
>>216921413
>>216915588kek true
>>216922726
>>216922721I mean women directed some good movies, not a whole lot but there is some kinoAnd to be completely honest, there are only like two or three good batman movies out of bajilion that was made
>>216922755kek
>>216922755>>216922797when we elected George Bush twice he was like nope im outta here
>>216914344I feel like avatar 2 and 3 should've been one 6 hour long movie instead of a two-parter pretending to be two different films
>>216922865yeah it should have been a part two because it doesnt work for me as a stand alone film
>>216914344James Cameron yet again did the impossible. He made me like Lo'ak
>>216922832>Lesbian icon >Spends all movie fucking the chad colonizer Why are Twittards like this?
>>216922940lo'ak be bussin fr cuz
>>216922941If she identifies as lesbian, then she's lesbian, chud.
>>216921267I could probably tolerate the brutal runtimes if these movies were filled with bimbo-maxed aliens.
>>216922446IIRC most of the recoms were just stunt artists who he worked with in the past
>>216923030THIS IS FIRE!!!!!!
>>216922721James Cameron is not just any woman; he is a lesbian.
>>216922721>more kvetching Keep it up tranny 2 billie incoming :)You lost ;^)
>>216922648Why would he? It's consciousness transfer, not a clone with memories
>>216923209That's the same thing really
i neED A BAD XENOS BITCH GOD HELP ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>216923244>>216923209Depends. If souls in avatar are real and eywa can somehow interact with them then it's a consciousness transfer otherwise he's a clone.
>>216923030
>>216923008I get the joke but unironically this scene is really cute.
>>216923209I don't believe there is any difference besides what semantics the people around them used. Especially because of anon's super computer theories I subscribe to. There is no data transfer from the basics of computing to the nervous system. Data is copied and wiped from the source matieral.
>>216923312If counsciousness is transferable then the concept of soul is pretty BS. Spider only needed an invasive species to make changes in his DNA to grow an UBS port and he could interact with the planetary computer without issue.
>>216923312It's kinda clear it works like an organic computer. It stores the "information" of a person by copying their neuron synapse stuff. Even giving Spider a way to breathe the air was explained "scientifically".They all continue to live in an organic computer essentially. And then that computer (or a human tech equivalent) can copy the stored info into another person.And as we see with Kiri it's possible that the copied person is then a separate individual since Grace's personality still exists as a separate imprint from Kiri's.Eywa can essentially copy/recreate/store any person and make as many copies of them as needed looks like.Hope Cameron goes somewhere with this and Eywa manifests the earliest navi from way back when this first started to do a lore dump.
>>216914604>ZERO CULTURAL IMPACTCould you imagine how onerous it would be to hear fat slobs go, "I see you?"
>>216921544Is everyone just illiterate these days? Abrahamic sacrifice is a trope thousands of years old.
>>216914604and yet a huge money impact, itś time to stop coping with that shitty argument, Cameron doesnt make movies for you to remember shit, he make movies for it to buy a new yacht, and hes winning while you seethe, Avatar is shit, my gf invited me yesterday, its a stupid movie, its slop, but how the fuck cares about muh cUlTuRaL iMpAkT
>>216923473Only meme I remember is the bad crop one. Didn't even laugh at the bit I just found Lyle's stupid face funny on a instinctual level.
>>216923395It is. I loved all their interactions.
>>216921860>baptized in water last film>multiple calls to See>ended this film diving into fireHe's not going to turn race traitor, but he is going to be purified and see humanity is acting against itself. He'll turn against the RDA to save earth.
>>216923682The end game is humanity and the navi combining into one. Just look at Spider and Kiri. That's the template. Both are "of both worlds" and in both cases they have been altered. Cameron is cheesy so a solution will be to get the human side to yield and adapt to the environment and then it will be implied that Eywa's seed/philosophy will be brought over to Earth to "repair it".
>>216923682He will go against the RDA because they will they will try to fuck with the firechuds.Then blue jesus will install the Eywa DLC on Earth to repair the biosphere so that humans leave Pandora
>>216923828Indeed.>family oriented>muh balance>Navi God is Great Mother>sky people God is... Sky FatherAnyone doubting ought to consider the films are overtly tracking the five traditional elements: air water fire earth and spirit. People talk about no cultural impact, but ignore the spirit through organic computation stuff was considered weird and dumb in 2009, only for the zeitgeist since to develop spirits and magic as memes and patterns in the shared human consciousness.
>>216923682Need to have this pic with Quaritch and his future little blue spawns and how he saved the human race
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>>216914344>>216914636https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZHBeIAeILk
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Lovely childhood friends.
>>216914344Does anyone know anyone who actually watches these movies?
>>216924614Nope, it's obvious they're lying to us about ticket sales and box office returns. They also lie to us about pretty much everything else so it makes sense they would lie about that too.
>>216917030Does it inspire anything else. Do people reference it in common conversation. Do people watch it years later and seek it out or hold it up as an artistic staple.
>>216924614i watched it and got a boner everytime the firelady showed up
>>216924587Damn, it’s a lot sweeter than I remember. I didn’t see him having his hand on her cheek and her smile afterwards is also sweet
COME VOTE IN THE /TV/ TOURNAMENT>>216921850
>>216921444>>216921483Their tech isn't useful during the battle because of the flux vortex. The movie told you this in the previous parts. Now it's also literally showing you the vortex. Do you need a YouTube explainer or something?
I don't vote
And still forgotten just a week laterr
>>216922611Not enough quips, ironic distance or fourth wall breakage. Not enough material for a 50-parter YouTube "video essay" arguing about mining unobtainium or USB sex.
I was tricked into watching this movie thinking it would be about FIRE and ASHES and seeing a different side of Pandora, instead its just that gay shit about whales again with 30 seconds of volcanoes
>>216924652I didn't say that, I just don't know who the fuck the audience for this movie is. I don't know a single person IRL who's seen either sequel. Is there just some entire subculture of Avatar obsessed people out there that've completely cut themselves off from everyone else or what?
>It's made X amount at the box office in Y amount of timeThis is the most pathetic shit I've seen and it's the only talking points here. This movie really has no merits or cultural impact whatsoever.
>>216925078Yes, I make it my life's mission to hide from you. Me and the other Avatar watchers meet up every third Friday of the month to discuss our meticulous plans to avoid crossing paths with you irl.
>>216925099>Cultural impactYou indians really do need a new line
>>216925099desu compared to the first two movies there actually is a fair bit of film discussion if only because the femdom cat, when the first came out /tv/ was barely interested in box offices and when the second came out all they talked about was the box office
>>216916377You and gunn lost, supergoyschizo. When Netflix kicks him out because he can't generate infinite billies like Cameron, try not to kill yourself
>>216914344Anyone have a screenshot of neytiri climbing onto the flying thing when shes injured. After she mounts it fully, theres like a few frames where she just looks oiled up and sweaty with her huge thighs spread out and ass thrust into the air. It took my by surprise because it felt like an entirely different fuckin model of her.
>>216921692Reading too much into it for sure. That said, had he died then and there she would not have lost a minute of sleep
>>216925371I know exactly which frame you're talking about
>>216925210I think it's funny, mostly because it's true.>>216925300>the femdom catThat's all there is to it desu.
would you live in a hunter gatherer society and forced to abide by extremely regressive tribal norms and have no privacy or possibility of self expression and no modern medicine or even a sanitary way to take a shitIn exchange for the promise of eywa of backing up your memories and possibly maybe your consciousness. Plus don't forget mandatory ancestor worship!
>>216914344Jack Champion and Britain Dalton are relentlessly handsome.
>>216923030I don't get the runtime complaints, the ticket costs the same so you get more movie for your money. If you don't enjoy it you can leave and if you are an adult who needs a bathroom break every 2 hours consider wearing diapers
I have become increasingly infatuated with varang since watching the movie, just like with kiri 3 years ago. How does Jim do it?
>>216917497holy based
>>216925730Good, I felt like I was going insane.
>>216923495The English internet has expanded beyond the Anglosphere recently
>>216925797The 3 laws of Eywa are basically made for the na'vi population to remain stagnant. I wonder if they wrote it organically after total civilization collapse in to avoid technological runaway or if was something what the designers of the moon made up to make sure their creation didnt evolve past a population threshold
>>216925371do you have a general time cause the movie is over 3 hours long
>finally villain Na’vi>they’re still just savages, but armedI wanted a Na’vi antagonist who went full humanboo, like they’re wearing clothes and embraced human culture and technology and turn their back on Eywa and her hippy ways. Basically a reverse Spider.
>>216917094Yeah because in the days before Chinese and Indian overpopulation got to its present state, you could reliably watch the highest grossing movies and have a good time. Now the average moviegoer is a barely sentient LLM with brown skin wrapped around it and it's now a collection of capeshit escapism.
>>2169228652 and 3 have many of the same story beats but different exposition. The story with redundancies removed (another water battle, Spider captured and tested again, Quaritch burning villages again, whale brain hunter guy defeated again etc etc) could be reworked into a 4 hour movie
>>216926056Meant to reply to >>216917379
>>216926040It'd be a cool paralel and probably the end game, the fire navi will be more humans because of Quaritch and the humans more navi because of Spider
>>216926037It's just after they get attacked by the ash clan. Neytiri gets shot with an arrow and falls down into the forest. A bit after that, whenever she wakes up. She slowly climbs onto the flying thingo that came to find her. The exact frame im talking about is when shes mounted it full and shes essentially lying chest down on top of it with these huge sweaty thighs hanging down either side and her ass thrust up. It probably literally a second of footage before the scene transitions. I can't give an exact timestamp, but thats sort of near the start to middle of the movie.
>>21692610238 minutes if anyone has a not shit copy yet
FUCK YOU James Cameron I was promised new fire Na'Vis that didnt respect Eywa laws and fot all industrious and shit + a new side of Pandora and instead I got ANOTHER 3 hours long zoomers + whales drama
>>216926102>It's just after they get attacked by the ash clan. Neytiri gets shot with an arrow and falls down into the forest. A bit after that, whenever she wakes up. She slowly climbs onto the flying thingo that came to find her. The exact frame im talking about is when shes mounted it full and shes essentially lying chest down on top of it with these huge sweaty thighs hanging down either side and her ass thrust up. It probably literally a second of footage before the scene transitions. I can't give an exact timestamp, but thats sort of near the start to middle of the movie.
>>216926218Thank you based James Cameron for giving me more HS drama with a Pandora background + rouge whale cop Payakan "neck kneeler killer" Tulkunski, it's all I wanted
>>216923454I want the firat Navi to be some scientist and eiwa an actual organic computer.
>>216914344but.....I said.....the....the Avengers....the opening day.....nnnNNNNOOOOOOOOO
>>216926218I like the whales
>>216923422He didn't need that at all. Sully transfers to the Avatar body permanently by laying next to the tree. He had nothing unique about his anatomy except his legs didn't work.
>>216915552A con artist
reminder that whales are sentient in real life too
>>216918991Nah, her performance was magnetic. Great casting.
>>216916653you JUST know
>>216921692she just didn't care what happens to a human. She barely noticed Spider breathing without a mask. Redheaded stepchild treatment
>>216916377>still bombing domestically,Not even remotely. It's holding incredibly well despite a huge winter storm this weekend. Go on, move your goalposts.
>Jake asking Neytiri if she hates their children for being part pinkskinI mean I’d be kinda pissed too if I was a pretty traditional person and my sons all talked like modern day human teen punks. Seriously Jake, you taught your boys to always be saying bro and shit? The fuck man.
>>216917513I don't think it's making 500 million on a re-release. 50-100 is the range of a hugely successful wide re-release.
>>216916377>IT FLOPPED>OK IT DIDNT FLOP >ITS FLOPPING -DOMESTICALLY->OK IT DIDNT FLOP DOMESTICALLY>ITS GOT NO LEGS>OK ITS GOT THE BEST LEGS OF ANY MOVIE IN YEARS>IT WONT MAKE A BILLION>OK ITS NOW CHARTED TO MAKE 2 BILLION SO WHATYou are now here lmao
>>216923244>>216923312>>216923405It's an explicit difference in the movie. Jake's living consciousness was moved from his human body to his Avatar body. Quarich is a save point uploaded into a Avatar body but his buman body and consciousness is long dead.>but if it were real...It's not real, this is how it works in the movie and it's clear to anyone with eyes.
>>216926444Jake doesn't like a 'military dad' at all, the kids do whatever the fuck they want with no fear
>>216926458Just because the movie director is retarded doesnt mean I have to be too
>>216924815But I cannot nominate Varang.
>>216926444You can't change your origin no matter what else you change. Jake even climbed the vines in the first movie using the marine corps taught climbing technique, he's still part human on a subconscious level he can't change. His kids emulate him.
i just saw it today and it was very good.on par with the first and better than wotw, though i still enjoyed wotw.just very good emotional scenes and as always i was rooting for the sully family the whole time. can't wait for the next one.
>>216924815YOU HAVE NO DOMINION HERE
>>216926482I think it's fairly well established that Jake is not massively intelligent. Not retarded, and he has raw cunning in military regards, but he's got limits otherwise. So his parenthood approach is simplistic.
>>216926484>the movie says it works like this, but I'm going to sub in my headcannon then declare it dumb.I don't even like the movies that much, but you're a moron.
>>216926521jake is the chud and quaritch is going to become the hippy
>>216926342yes the whales are great
>>216926482He's a pretty terrible father. His "father" speech in this movie, after he said to his son "you killed your brother" wasn't about asking forgiveness or saying it wasn't true, it was "its ok son you proved yourself valuable at last"
>>216926485>>216924815I nominated NeytiriYou could get away with Kiri since Weaver is a hundred years old
>>216914393He gave us kiri and tsireya in the second one.
>>216926484>magic does NOT work like that!
>>216926539Are you the kind of retard that will jumps through hoops to justify that a parsec in Star Wars means something different because yadayada
>>216926564He had it easy for all their childhood, just peaceful Na'vi living for years, nothing much to worry about besides teaching them to hunt and ride. He's been less than stellar since the war returned and he's supposed to be leader before father.
>>216925158i KNEW it!!
Did anyone make a webm of kiri cooming and looking like she's riding cowgirl?
>>216926600No, I don't care about that shit at all. It's just clear in the movie that Quarich and Jake are different. The movie doesn't even have that strong of lore, but this one is explicit>inb4 autism>where do you think you are.
>>216926201I'm open to seeing the shit copy if you have it. Just even if it confirms what I saw.
>>216923682Cameron said a long time ago, well before 2 and 3 were full into production, that Quaritch would evolve in very interesting ways over the course of the films, he's definitely on a journey rather than just static antagonist, and I think it's working.
>>216926654Its clear the character think that yes, and its stupid.
>>216914344>didn't even know the third movie was out>only learned about it here>nobody in real life talking about this movie>somehow still making moneyI don't get it. Something isn't right here.
>>216926703Yeah, no one talks to you.
>>216926691Why is it stupid? You can clearly see the giant tree and ritual transfer his essence at the end of the first movie and They give a detailed explanation on how they made Quarich and keep harping that he's not the original Quarich.Seems like you want to hate it for some reason.
>>216926703>everyone's seeing it and not telling anon again
>>216926660the quality is too ass
>>216926734>Yeah, just spread out a little more, Zoe
>>216926703>guaranteed replies.jpg
>>216926734you just know Jimbo looked at all these shots from all angles to find the ones THAT HE COULDNT SHOW US
>>216915721Based /co/ brother
>>216926716>>216926732Yeah, turns out I don't talk to internet shills like yourselves in real life. Not a big surprise there.
>>216925830If you can't tell your story in 79min, you're probably a shitty storyteller.
>>216926826I AM THE IMPLANT!!!!!!!!
>>216926826ARF ARF ARF
>>216926804Yeah, it's easy to piss off Avatar shills. I've been doing it for a couple years now.
>>216926848
>>216926722Because there's no fundamental difference between a "copy" and a "transfer", first of all. And the fact that they keep saying there is doesnt make much sense because they make it like its a big deal, but why should it matter to Quaritch? It might have mattered to the original if he was alive and having a blue clone around, but from blue Quaritch pov there is no difference. The process was seamless and he woke up in the new body, just like Jake did. Can Jake truly know he was "transfered" and not "copied"? Would it have made any difference to his experience as a Navi? I think not.
>>216926061I struggled with trying to understand why the decision to repeat those story beats was made, i believe it had to do with what the Tulkun whale elders said, on how violence repeats in a spiral. I think that's the theme of A3 is that we're seeing the characters live through similar events to A1 and A2, and A3 ends in a literal spiral vortex.The one thing i would change, if Cameron does go through with extended cuts for A2 and A3, is have at least 1 character go "Hmm, things are happening again, just like before." Or something.
>>216914344>doubting Big Money Zoe
>>216926921she's one of the better actresses working these days
>>216926703it isn't right that it only makes money in american and no where else sir
>>216923495Some black lady behind me even said it out loud, I stood up and said you aight black girl
>>216926734Yes, thats it, the one on the right. Thank you. Yeah, I need that shit in 4k. It was so fucking sweaty and juicy on the big screen coming out at me in 3D.
>>216920639Cool, which videogame?
>>216927004Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora
>>216927004Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora™ available now on PlayStation 5, Windows and Xbox Series X/S.
>>216926734>that second picDamn, it looks like something straight from Showgirls. I'm going to watch it in imax soon.
>>216927004it looks like a game from ten years from now, and its mid quite frankly
>>216927021>>216927032that a game where a 5090 struggles to run despite being insanely optimized?
>>216926896To argue on if the tree actually tranferred his soul is undetermined because we, in real life, dont understand what consciousness actually is. And to delve into the same discussion regarding Na'vi Quaritch will have the same pitfalls, they said they transfered his memories and his "consciousness" into the recom body, but they don't specify if thats the same as his soul, etc.BUT i can say for certain that the process for Na'vi Quaritch was NOT in fact seamless. They essentially reloaded a save state into a different body. Na'vi Quaritch had to be informed of his own death and all the events that transpired after.Is there "continuity of consciousness" or "soul" like what seems to have happened with Jake? Undetermined. But the processes at play between the tree transfer and the recom save state seem very dissimilar. That's relaly all i can say.
>>216927021>>216927032>>216927067I just started playing this and I've been running in a straight line for 30 minutes. Scammed again.
>>216926921There is the timeline where she and Worthington got married after first Avatar. They had undeniable attraction during Avatar 1 promotion tour. You just knew she had hots for that white boy.
>>216921323>Varang is there dancing around chanting "FIRE FIRE DEATH DEATH" the whole timeBeavis was reincarnated as a chick?
>>216921195Gay ass nigga who thought big dimes Jim wasn't gonna obliterate everything else kek
>>216921413Cameron loves trannys, he made Lambert one
>>216927086It's been emphasized to him that he's not really Quaritch but a copy of day-old memories from a man who's been dead for 15 years, just a product of technology and he's not obligated to continue that person and identity. There's "biological" technology going on with Jake and Ewya and the transference there but it's obvious much more direct A to B, leaving the previous body behind.
>>216927086>BUT i can say for certain that the process for Na'vi Quaritch was NOT in fact seamless. They essentially reloaded a save state into a different body. Na'vi Quaritch had to be informed of his own death and all the events that transpired afteFrom the save state he was on to the moment he woke up it was seamless. That some years of "real time" were missed for Quaritch and a couple of minutes/hours were "missed" for Jake as he was under transfer is no fundamental difference to the process. If you have a cloned blue body ready you could die and be back up in the same amount of time the transfer of Jake took.Blue Quaritch is not the man that died in the suit, but he is very much the man that was saved on a drive, and those men were not very different.And again if the "transfer" process for Eywa involved transfering Jakes memories to the planet drive and then back again in the new body, making it essentially a copy, would it have changed anything for Jake?
>>216927089You're better off playing Death Stranding if you're into walking simulators.
>>216927067>that a game where a 5090 struggles to run despite being insanely optimized?i have a 5090 and run it on unobtanium settings at 4k
Were human men always interested in Na'vi women? They are supposed to be their enemies, and just a few hours ago a group of cannibalistic Na'vi became allies. React!
>>216927279>You're better off playing Death Stranding if you're into walking simulators.except the walking in that is acrady as fuck, you should probably play RDR2 is you like walking simulators
>>216927236But from his POV he has not been dead for 15 years. He was just put under to save his memories and then he woke up.
>>216927293neytiri is so OP in this movie. i'm glad cameron never forgets to showcase the best girl.
>>216927293she should have ripped their dicks off
>>216927293homosapians were fucking everything, including the previous lineage.
>>216926040If it wasn't for the You shall not set stone upon stone law, you could have Aztec level Na'vi
>>216927293Humans will do one of two things to virtually anything>Try to eat it>Try to fuck it
>>216926040They're gonna move in that direction. It's supposed to be a huge time jump between 3 and 4, like 8 years, many Ash Na'vi are gonna go foreign.
>>216926734
>>216927329I think that's bridging a lot of gaps that we cant truly bridge because the save state memories were stored on a hard drive and later relayed to the recom brain. This will fall into the same problem of "continuity of consciousness". Like in The Prestige, you have to ask, when Jackman uses Tesla's cloning machine, is there continuity of consciousness between him and the clones? And the thought experiment of the consequences of teleportation, if a machine creates an exact copy of you on the other end of the teleporter and destroys you, is there continuity of consciousness? Because if there is a delay in destruction, technically there are two identical people on either ends of the teleporter machine. Are they "continuous"?Because of the fact that we dont understand what consciousness is in real life, and because there was such a large gap in time between original Q's death and recom Q's awakening, i will tend to lean towards the idea that original Q and Na'vi Q are two completely different entities, souls, consciousnesses, or whatever you wanna call it. Na'vi Q is just slowly breaking free from old memories that were falsely implanted into him.
>>216927955>is there continuity of consciousness between him and the clones? I think we could say there is because of how the clone reacts to the gun, no confusion at all about the context, he know where is is and why its happening. Nothing indicates theres any difference between the two in any case. > i will tend to lean towards the idea that original Q and Na'vi Q are two completely different entitiesOk, but why? From blue Quaritch pov there wasnt any time gap at all, why is "real time" relevant here?>memories that were falsely implanted into himWhy falsely? He has no other memories or personality that the ones he was transfered. The doubts over his mission/obsession about Jake should stem from what happens to him after, and what type of life he can expect to have in strip mined/terraformed Pandora. Trying to separate him from his own mind because "he's not the same man" might make sense for Jake because it's been 15 years, for Quaritch its been a sleepover. Would the 5 years in cryosleep between Earth and Pandora mean that everyone arriving is a different person?
>>216922611I don’t, I just like trolling all the faggots who spend all year going “this movie has to make eight trillion dollars in the first hour or it’s a FLOP that will make everyone involved perform seppuku” about every other movie that gets released.
