>BTFOs Neytiri twice>BTFOs Jake & Quaritch >Makes Quaritch her slave>Mangkwans BTFOs the Windtraders, Metkayina and Omaticaya even with the Tulkuns AND FUCKING TORUKStrongest non-Kiri Na'vi
Everyone has agreed that her head represents a volcano with a black cloud and lava pouring out.
will it reach 1 billy before the end of the year?
Neytiri is racist to her own kids and threatened to kill a pregnant mother.
it was a surprise attack and toruk led the rally of the fliers aimed at the mangkwan after he recovered from his injury for a bit
>>216981472Quaritch fell onto the Toruk at the end and will show up on it in the next movie.
>>216981116I wonder if some of that was just Kiri taking Varang by surprise, or if you can train and prepare for a kuru CNS battle.
>>216981514Honestly I could have watched a 3 hour movie just of Quaritch and Varang and showing her modern/sci fi weapons and tactics.
>>216981116Link to prev: >>216967428
>>216981116What are the chances that in A4, after the eight year time skip, we will see Payakan has made whale babies with his disabled gf?
>>216981116imagine the stench of her blue alien cat pussy
>>216981948The next movie is after an 8 year timeskip. I wonder if she'll be somewhat "domesticated" by then or still semi-feral,
TWO GENERALS AHHHHHHHHHH
>>216982087Is it a sign for...
Every single female Na'vi wants the human dick but there isn't a single male Na'vi that wants the human pussy.What does this mean?
>>216982249Come to think of it, the only relevant female human characters are general Sopranos (KIA) and heli pilot Lucia (KIA).Grace transitioned into Kiri so there's that.I hear something about that flying dragon lady being in the next one.
I'm in love
>>216981400Based based based
>>216981400she isn't racist towards her kids she's just ashamed when their skydemon parts make them stand out. Also Ronal had it coming.
>>216982600what ps5 game is this?
>I'm in this place where I have nothinganyone else felt this was an awkward sentence? Sounds too contemporary. She has a similar line in 2 >your son is actually bleedingactually? Really? That's how Neytiri speaks?
>>216982600She is a racist, she arguably invented racism on Pandora. No Na'vi knew the meaning before her.
>>216982642What bothers me is that every other navi character speaks "normally" but neytiri is still talking in that weird choppy "primitive" way mean to convey navi are simple, like she did when Jake first met her. basically by switching over to "english is actually now navi-speak" she should've switched over to speaking more or less normally, to match everyone else, but she's still speaking like a halfwit.
>>216982017>I wonder if she'll be somewhat "domesticated" by then or still semi-feral,I'd like to think she just learns sort of what's expected, learn the language, some customs, ect, but still never lets you forget that she's in charge. I think it'd be great if she got to do some variation of the "Do you feel in charge?" scene.
>>216981174I'm more inclined to believe it's a reference to Jurassic Park
>>216982676Well she is... you know...
>>216982676neytiri is special
>>216982642You actually can not ask this
>>216982678It all depends on whether Quaritch and Varang go live in a tribal environment, or whether they go back to Bridgehead and then live there for 8 years.If they live at Bridgehead I can see her quickly acclimating to human decorum, she's shown to be sharp-witted and shrewd. I can also see her learning english and then sassing up or intimidating human staff.But if they retreated to a more tribal existence then both Quaritch and her would likely go all in with a tribal warlord behavior and it's more likely Quaritch would become more like her.I don't really see why they'd be welcome at the human base though, they fucked up, a lot of people got killed and frankly, Quaritch is just a mercenary, he doesn't really hold any sway there politically or otherwise. Any new brass coming in would be likely to arrest him and execute him than play his games.
>>216982642>>216982723>Jake you have to kill Spider, he doesn't belong here>Jake the wrong son died, you have to kill your other son, I can't bear looking at him he has the wrong number of fingers>Jake I don't even care about Tuk you have to kill her right now, do it right in front of me so I know it's done >Jake I hate these fish navi, they're disgusting, Jake please kill them all>Jake, Kiri is an abomination I hate her so much you have to kill her as well. I hate her voice and I hate that she has a demon in her and I hate that she talks to Eywa more than me>Jake you have to kill yourself, I love you but you have to die, I can't stand looking at you anymore now that you've killed everyone
>>216982676much like in Alexander (2004) everyone speaks a different dialect despite supposedly all speaking the same language (reef na'vi canonically have a different dialect from forest na'vi though).I mean Varang switches between cave dweller speak and seductress throughout the movie
>>216982737>they fucked upIt's not Quaritch's fault that three separate 1/1,000 long-shots intersected at the exact same moment needed for him to escape. Neytiri managed to slip past the defenses, the marine bio dude managed to hijack an unattended bulldozer, and Spider managed to lockpick his way out of containment. Quaritch was extremely competent. Granted, the following investigation would be a clusterfuck and everybody would be blaming the avatar-revenant in warpaint over themselves.
>>216982666>invented racismI kneel my Queen.
>>216982737most people that went on the whale hunt would have been killed which leaves very few people to actually speak against Quaritch if he comes back and claims he did what he could to salvage a hopeless situation. He might even argue that he and the mangkwan are the most effective weapon against the na'vi
>>216982809Yeah but again he's just a merc. And then died, and was brought back for a very specific mission, which he failed at, with catastrophic consequences.I don't see him falling upward any longer. He's a guy in the field and he isn't showing results.I'm guessing in the next movie human presence will continue to increase so his style of gung-ho ops will be even less in demand.
>>216981116>/afag/>a fagy'all queers itt
>>216982875Very true. My bet is that he goes native and deteriorates into a sort of inverted mirror of Jake's archetype.
>>216982762Neytiri is not a jewish old testament character
>>216982875Quaritch got high and donned tribal alien paint in this movie, there's no way he'll care about the human military after he gets his Toruk.
>>216982937I think he might return to Bridgehead, realize there's noone left in charge and noone to receive orders from, collect some military gear and then head out into the wilderness with Varang and her tribe.Next time we see him it'll be Jake going to get help from him and he'll be in full Kurtz mode somewhere deep in the jungle.
>>216982960this does sort of solve the issue of getting away from his Jake and Spider hunting autism, but then he does genuinely care for Spider so I can't imagine him just laying off for that entire 8 year time jump
i havent watched the avatar movies because i think long form content is an outdated way to consume media, but do the movies ever touch on the fact that realistically they would be capturing and breeding the cat women by the thousands for sex tourism?
>>216983057He seems pragmatic. He got orders to get Jake so that's what he was trying to do. But then the order-givers got fucked up so that's the end of that. And he knows Spider is in good hands so I can see him being okay with that. He's going to turn into that crazy meth uncle living out in the outskirts out of a trailer with his crazy meth wife.
>>216981548I hope so. Though I think Varang probably grabbed him.
>>216981811This.
I still don't understand why 14 year old Kiri has to sound like 75 year old Sigourney Weaver. Surely HACK Cameron could have made it digitally higher at least
>>216983097No. Pandora is too far from Earth. Just getting people and equipment there is difficult and takes a long time. Along with the atmosphere not being breathable, it’s one of the main reasons humans haven’t settled there quickly and the RDA struggles as much as they do with the Na’vi.
Why does Neytiri call hom "MaJake"? Is she mispronouncing his name and now it would be awkward to correct her?
>>216983157It's not even just the tone of the voice it's the really shitty voice acting. Sigourney keeps overemphasizing every other word. Literally sounds like a granny talking thinking people can't hear her.
>>216983186it's affectionate "my Jake"
>>216983186It's a black thing, like LeBron
>>216982721>>216982719Neytiri is very clever
>>216982875But he did bring in Sully. It wasn't his choice to show him off in their little plastic cell which led to his rescue. He also brought in Spider and the lab guys had enough time to study him and now have a new goal: replicating the mycelial integration that will let other humans live on Pandora without needing masks. That's the final key. The whale juice lets them live indefinitely, the spore will let them freely roam the new world. Ardmore almost killed off their most valuable asset out of impatience and even though she died, Parker won't let his dad or the other suits forget that. She tried to push both him and Quaritch out of the loop when they were the ones focused on the real prize.
>>216983200this
>>216983186Manigga you cannot be serious.
>>216983057Quarritch cares about Spider not dying. But he seems fine with Jake raising him somewhere else.
>>216983157The only good thing about watching this movie in non-english dub is that Kiri is voiced by an actual girl.
>>216983157I don't mind her sounding weird because she kind of is weird. It's clearly just because she is a clone of Siggy's previous character, but to me I like how it makes her stand out and clearly not a normal kid. She even has a moment in Fire and Ash where her voice gets all distorted when she commands Lo'ak, it reminded me of Dune.
>>216983315It would be really simple to fix Kiri's voice with AI, not as if there isn't plenty of source material of Sigourney Weaver as a young woman to draw from. I'm annoyed that Cameron didn't do it.
>>216983254the entire thing is a mess since he only really has a mandate to get Jake and no other command whatsoever and his team is dead. So he's just a merc. And the entire Bridgehead base apparently has one general and no other officers in sight. and I don't think they want him as a liability around since there are constant fiascos with the Jake saga. the movie is kind of misleading because it keeps showing Quaritch as someone with charisma of a leader, but his actual role in the human hierarchy keeps diminishing. In Avatar he was presumably the main merc leader of the human base, then died then brought back for one purpose only, to find Jake and nothing else then he flexed that a bit and in the end everything went tits up. I don't see him coming back to the base and going "well I just got promoted to general haha". His story progression has his path diverge from the human side, not reinforce it.
>>216983360You're purposefully ignoring the fact that she (a 75 year old woman) kissed Spider (a CHILD). Even if you like her voice she should then avoid problematic dialogue/actions
>>216983097It's getting there. see >>216978063
>>216981116When Quarritch brings his gf to the human base he introduces her to the general as:>This is Varang, the Tzahik of the Mankwan.For us as the audience this is a perfectly understandable sentence. These movies are very immersive after all, and draw you into that alien society. But for the general it must be pure gibberish. So in a way, we viewers have gone native too. Bravo, Cameron.
>>216983399>they didn't show the entire command structure so it must be this one woman in charge with zero contingency for her death or any lower chain of command to take over really dude?
>>216983399No half-way professional military would let Quarritch within a thousand miles of the Jake hunting operation. He's too compromised by personal feelings (revenge against Jake, father to Spider).
>>216983444>But for the general it must be pure gibberishI mean, I'm sure he's been briefed on as much information about the Na'vi as is available. It wouldn't be complete gibberish.
>>216983450Honestly yeah. It follows the same stupid saturday morning cartoon logic like the rest of the human ops on Pandora. It's GIJoe logic. Quaritch shows up on base and just immediately gets briefed by the general personally. There's only two scientists working there total. One whaler. One corpo executive, etc...
>>216983444based appreciator
>>216983463They're not military, they're mercs. Everyone on Pandora are private contractors.
>>216983483Quaritch is specifically an ex US marine like Jake. They're technically mercs now but they still kept the military in them.
>>216983468I know the movie only focuses on a handful of characters but you cannot be this stupid. Do you think the base has no toilets because they never show them taking a shit? Bridehead is 6 miles across and you think there are only two scientists there.
>>216983520My point is that the RDA is not a military, it's the security arm of a megacorp, and the people calling the shots at the top are not military.
>>216983399>I don't see him coming back to the base and going "well I just got promoted to general haha".he should and then he should shoot anyone that disagrees while Varang gives him bedroom eyes
>>216983529I'm saying that you're headcanoning complexity into a story that is written like a saturday morning cartoon.>yeah dude there are five more generals and 10 more corporate leaders just outside of frame, laughing with meMaybe there are ten more Quaritches running around with ten more Lyles too.
>>216983463Quarritch represents millions of corporate investment and years of experience. His accomplishments outweigh his failures which is why he was sent back.
>>216983444for me it was sitting in a packed theatre with the entire audience buying in to talking whales, and nobody rolling their eyesCameron is a master filmmaker
>>216983444>Kempe leren?>MaweyLoved this bit. This is Cameron reminding us that Varang doesn't know any English and she and Quaritch are always speak Na'vi which is English to us. Second, for the very first time it puts Varang in a position of vulnerability where she's completely out of her element and has to trust Quaritch taking charge and rely on him handling the business.
>>216983571Little missy.
>>216983571it's funny when she tells her goons to stand up straight and not look scared
>>216983399>I don't see him coming back to the base and going "well I just got promoted to general haha". His story progression has his path diverge from the human side, not reinforce it.it would be fun actually for him to arrive back at base and find out that everyone in the military who outranked him is dead with replacements 3 years away, so he hangs out there with the ash tribe for a while as relations between the remaining humans and quaritch continue to deteriorate
Can we get a webm of Loak putting the gun in his mouth on the shore?
>>216983645>your boss got sucked up in a magical vortex so now you have a new boss that spends all his time fucking and doing drugs with one of the natives>you can't use runway 4 because they've built a camp there and they hiss at you whenever you get too close
>>216983557Yes they have an admin zone the size of several city blocks for uh one exec.
>>216983557
Bussin Foreal fuckin died
>>216983712I honestly can't fathom how some people can't even picture a fucking apple. Since I was a kid I was imagining entire scenes with distinct characters having dialogues. Imagine not being able to imagin a porn scenario in your head too. How the fuck do these people even live their day-to-day lives?
>>216983565I still can't take the talking whales seriously and my eye rolling and snickering is not audible to you.
>>216983772I like the films, but think the whales were focused on too much. The women in my family adore the whales and their plot line though.
>>216983772lol this dude doesn't understand whales
>>216983807There was a young girl in the family next to me who kept flinching audibly and crying whenever a whale got quotah'd.
>>216983771I think a lot of the difference here is based on everyone not having a shared understand of what "picturing something in your head" actually means, and not people actually being different. I think this is kind of junk science, and hugely overblown.
>>216983772We already have Orcas, who are basically talking dolphins. They are extremely social and have some brain areas that are more developed than ours
varang is bald
>>216983867downstairs
>>216983887no on her head
>>216983557apparently there was a fierce and powerful woman that quarritch loved and had a relationship and a kid with and she just never showed up before dying offscreen
>>216983867Good.
>>216982718Thought the same surprised I haven't seen any edit with her cut in as the spitting dino yet.>tfw will never be spat in the face by Varang
>>216983921bald women are ugly
>>216983687Here you go
>>216981116So are we still calling for Total Pandoran Death or did this bitch convince everyone otherwise?
>>216981947That's his sister, you sick fuck!
>>216983867she actually has a weirdly shaved center rift with hair around the perimeter, there was a shot that showed the top of her head and I was thrown off by how odd it was
>>216983951cool thanks, I think I can make some sort of>Avatar bros...... it's over.......reaction gif with this
>>216983951This is why they don't allow metal. Harder to do with a bow and arrow.
>>216983987Feel free to, we still are not going to stop loving these movies
>>216984002You can always just cut your wrists
>>216983952Holy sexo.>>216983935Varang and the chick from the D&D movie prove you wrong.
>>216983952
>>216983951me if an Avatar movie ever misses the billy
Will Lo'ak and Tsireya's ancestors have a Shadow Over Insmouth moment in the future?
>>216983951literally me
>>216984045I'm glad Neytiri killed that pregnant fishnavi. It was played off as her dying from a wound but we all know Neytiri did her in.
>>216984053You have two beautiful women in your life who love you and couldn’t stand to see you hurt?
>>216983981yup>>216984010neytiri is naturally beautiful and varang is bald and only looks hot because she wears a bunch of makeup
>>216983951Countdown nigga when the delay is announced.
>>216981116I really liked the first Avatar but the last two were shit and just blatantly recycled the plot of the first film, minus the whole 'torn between two worlds' dynamic. Especially F&A. The entire fucking climax is an exact repeat of WOW. I almost didn't believe what I was watching. Only things I found remotely interesting were the Ash people and the Colonel's "arc", if you can call it that.
>>216984071They're both queens of /tv/, there's no need for waifuwars
>>216983712>>216983771I have aphantasia stage 5. I didn't even know I was disabled like that until a few years ago when I randomly heard about it. I always thought that when people in a story or whatever say that they see their wife's face before them it was meant as poetic hyperbole. Or when during meditation exercises they tell you to "imagine waves on the beach" it was a deliberately impossible task to make you shut down your reasoning (like koan poetry). But apparently normal people can just activate a video game HUD and impose fake visuals over their eyes? I dream at night (mostly nightmares), so I vaguely know what fake images are like. But I can't willingly visualise anything. I'm so fucking jeleaous of people with imagination now. Especially for porn and masturbation. Can you guys just willingly summon a pov video of Varang having sex with you??? But it also sounds a bit scary: Like, when you stand at a red traffic light and it turns green. How do you know it's really green, and not just your imagination? Is that why people are obsessed with platon's cave?
>>216984071Varang is pure sex.
>>216984109zoe is a trillion times hotter
>>216984121no
>>216984130Yes.
>>216983565>and nobody rolling their eyesI actually did. I had completely forgotten the whales could talk, with subtitles and all, not just some R2D2 shit.
>>216983571>COLONEL GOAT CHEESE
Varang's sister in avatar 4?
>>216984118>But I can't willingly visualise anything.Damn, if you're not trolling, this is actually weird to even read about>But apparently normal people can just activate a video game HUD and impose fake visuals over their eyes?Yes>Can you guys just willingly summon a pov video of Varang having sex with you?Yes, easily
>>216983830That sounds like my mom and sister.
>>216984122Oona is super-hot but Zoe might be an actual fucking vampire. It's absolutely ridiculous the way she looks and moves at 47
>>216984160Her and the colonel survived so honestly, probably.
>>216984160>poisoning her fatherWhat the fuck. I don't like Varang now. I thought she was kind and sweet.
>>216984161Is it as clear as a drug hallucination?
>>216984203>I thought she was kind and sweet.She led a band of bloodthirsty marauding bandits that did the Naavi equivalent of scalping people in the film.
>>216983435There's no AoC on Pandora.
>>216983435They had an age appropriate actress stand in for that mocap.
>>216984203that's not paint on her face it's baby na'vi blood
>>216984161Not trolling. Just severely mentally disabled I guess. I think I'm otherwise high IQ (I even have a phd), but knowing on what I'm missing out on with imagination is driving me one step closer to do an Lo'ak.
>>216984203You have to give it to her, usurping your father as the leader of the tribe at 15 and then managing to hold power for years tells you how sharp and dangerous she is. She's also unusually ambitious for a Na'vi
>>216984068uh...yeahLOLOLOLOL
>>216984273>>216984206For me personally it depends on the mental state and surroundings. If it's calm or I'm chilling in a chair or a bed it can be very clear, but other times "the movie" is not totally stable and crisp. Sometimes you have to rewind it too to get the better version because it gets somewhat trippy.
>>216984273That's so stupid, you can't even know if there's actually a discrepancy between what others experience and you do. They're just interpreting their headspace. Questions like your traffic light one actually do trip up the framework and nobody can accurately explain what they mean in relation to the real environment they see with their eyes.
>>216984118>Like, when you stand at a red traffic light and it turns green. How do you know it's really green, and not just your imagination?just is bro, sorry you're defective
>>216981116The entrance of her tent is a vagina.Very subtle here Cameron.
>>216983771>>216983838I can't even tell how this chart is meant to be interpreted. If someone tells me to think of an apple, unless that was the explicit instruction, I won't see some 4K transparent background image of an apple, that isn't how constructing something from memories works. Images have context, always.
>>216983841It's not an issue of believablity, it's just the emotional moments they go for where they attempt at personification that just never really lands emotionally for me. It takes me out of the movie and makes me feel like I'm watching a sappy save the whales PSA. And don't get me wrong, I think IRL whaling should be outlawed.Compared to WOW I will say that I actualy though they had some cool moments in this film though. The way the water rippled when the old ones spoke during the council meeting was really neat. And the RDA watercraft getting squashed after their "I thought you said these things were docile" moment was funny. No no, the space whales were simply choosing death before this.
>>216984438>If someone tells me to think of an apple, unless that was the explicit instruction, I won't see some 4K transparent background image of an appleI just picture an apple on a solid black or white background
CARMELLA CAN YOU PLEASE ABANDON SHIIIIIIIP
>>216984122maybe if you're gay
Will you be alive to watch Avatar 4 anon?
>>216984504varangs actress is a horseface
>>216984432the path to a woman's tent is through her vagina
>>216984518>tfw four years until Avatar 4
this rapids scene looked so deep in 3D, all the vines and water in your face.
>>216984519That's a pretty cute horse then
>>216984560She is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen.
Firegirl being a size queen for kill distance and taking a second to register the meaning of the delay in the sniper report was magnificent.
>>216984560she looks like my bio dad (he transitioned last year)
>>216984566It's the eyes. I don't know how the fuck did she manage to stay a normal, well-adjusted person being a third generation nepo-baby, but many rich people and rich celebrities have this dead look of an empty husk who can't be impressed or surprised by anything anymore. Oona meanwhile has very warm an soulful eyes, full of life.
Alright, I'll play the Avatar Video game. It even has a 3rd person mode now.
RDA wants to subdue Pandora? They can put sun blocking shades in orbit around Pandora to lower global temperature to ice age level. The forest will naturally die off and Navi with it. The material for shades can be found on the other moons orbiting the same gas giant Pandora does, where Eywa can't do shit.Sky people should fight with the sky as their weapon
I thought Norm's avatar body was shot and killed in the first movie? How is he running around as a na'vi again and colonizing their women?
>>216983097>i havent watched the avatar movies because i think long form content is an outdated way to consume mediaIf this isn't bait you should reconsider suicide.
>>216984856it got shot but he found it in his human body and treated the wound
Reminder that the song is about varang and quagmire
>>216984544The water was insane, I almost drowned as a teenager so I actually felt slightly uncomfortable.
>>216984602>immediately recognises what a sniper is when experiencing it for the first time>spots the guy shooting from over 200m away and looks directly at himthat was cool as fuck
>>216984794That would be so short sighted and detrimental to what the RDA wants they might actually try it
>>216984539>Lo'ACK
>>216983841Are you seriously comparing the wolves of the sea to those goofy filter feeders in the film? Fuck you!
>>216984996Technically it's a tribe of killer whales.
>>216984991kek
>>216984465That's really weird.And when you read a scene in a book?
>>216985012Pandora is too gay for toothed cetaceans. Sad!
>>216985019>And when you read a scene in a book?Then I picture a scene in a book. I don't understand what got you confused?
>>216983951> tfw you can't even die permanently because Ewya has you backed up on a USB stick
>>216985063Based popup mind.
>>216985081>popup mindIs this what it's called? I had no idea it was called something, isn't it how most people imagine things?
>>216985081Ok, I got it now. What I meant was, when I read a book, I just play out the scene like it's a movie in my head. Isn't this normally how people are reading books anyways?
>>216984991kek good one
>>216985063Do you imagine only what is described, or do you fill out the blanks? For example, for an outdoors scene, if the time or weather were not specified, do you for example see that scene playing out in clear daylight, and adjust if it's later revealed to be a cloudy evening? Or do you see none of that until the text gives you the details?
>>216983645Funny enough the new game kinda implies that's what happened. He seems to be top dog post Ardmore's death. The game actually builds him up as more competent than her. They Human military leader from the dlc actually respects him and his combo of RDA and Ash Na'vi seems more competent. They actually treat their Na'vi as allies instead of cheap fooder.
>>216985218>adjust if it's later revealed to be a cloudy eveningYes, I do this
>>216982600Cameron and Saldana both confirmed she's a racist retard.
>>216985253Looks like Zoe and her family
>>216982642Yeah agreed, that is awkward sounds nothing like something Neytiri would say.
>>216983900Paz right? Miles mom. She was actually a helicopter pilot ( were they called scorpions in the setting?)
>>216985253Delete this horror now
>solos three of your simpsNothing personal, Varang.
>>216983157>>216983200she drops into and out of that weird accent all the time too.
>>216985286>sounds nothing like something Neytiri would sayHer son getting murdered and dying in her arms while she was helplessly watching definitely can make a mother spiral down into a very dark place. I don't understand how some people have trouble understanding how mentally fucked up Neytiri is at the beginning of FAA
>>216984856>imagine your dad is a skinwalker
>>216984673The new dlc is the best part.
>>216982642>anyone else felt this was an awkward sentence?No? I think it was meant to be taken literally. She is a forest nigga far away from her clan, her home, her life.
>Zoe Saldaña is set to become the highest grossing actor of all time worldwide.
>>216985359He seems like a chill guy. Feel weird that he doesn't have a similar arc to Jake were he neglects his human body.
>>216985377does it have any new lore?
>>216985413Based Zoe
>>216985414>He seems like a chill guyHe's super chill. Dude just wants to do research of Pandora, bang his sexy blue wife and play music for the Na'vi
Why doesn't Edie Falco remember being in Avatar?It's pretty amazing because it's had so much cultural impact
>>216985309died off-screen award
>>216985218>adjust if it's later revealed to be a cloudy eveningI often ignore descriptions, at least for characters, once an internal image has taken root it's hard to change. I.e. in GoT father Lanister is described with big side burns. I tend to picture him with long hair, more akin to Thranduil from Hobbit movies.
>>216985383I get what she's saying, but shouldn't it be something like >I'm in this >>PLACE<<! Where I have nothingor >I have >>NOTHING<< in this place!her line sounds like something a modern american woman would say, not Neytiri
I've very fascinated by the script split that happened with 2 and 3. Was it all one script ending at 3's attack on the whales and 2's boat crash was created following the split? Did Cameron earnestly have the entire narrative as we saw it across the two movies and split it?I just want to know more about the decision making, as while I think this does work standalone it is absolutely the 2nd half of Avatar 2, which is even crazier as I thought Avatar 2 worked fine as it was.Cameron might be the master
>>216985466A-are all of those his children? Gonna repopulate Pandora on his own...
>>216983900>>216985287Did I ever tell you about Paz?
>>216983772I was honestly surprised to not hear many people laughing at the whales in my theatre.>>216983771I feel like if it's something like "picture an apple" I can do it perfectly, but when it gets to picturing scenes with multiple people and detailed environments I go to stage 4. It's kinda like an RPG where I can get a clear image of one or two people at a time, but everything else is just represented by a low-detail placeholder.
>>216985466avatar comics are revoltingly poorly drawn
>>216985583No, Norm has two kids with his wife >>216984794, the rest are his students, iirc
>>216985456This basically is the Gosling scene...
>>216985413based based based
>>216985673Does Spider usually speak Na'vi to the Sully kids or do they switch back and forth between Na'vi and English?
>>216982017Jesus Christ
>>216982017Muh dick...
>>216985253Cuddling with human Tuk and Kiri
>>216985703>Dr. Anon, I'm CIA>the flight plan lists me, my Avatar, but only one of you
>>216985253Wouldn't be so bad if Kiri looked more like Grace.
>>216984122she's literally a nigger
>>216985724What does Neytiri have to do with chocolate? Will there be a Cupcake cupcake?
>>216985756>Two holes
If only Abatap were alive to see this...
>>216985786I smile every time I remember he's deadFucking Baskinfag of his era
>>216985756What did they mean by this...
>>216985218>NPC tries to comprehend having an imaginationNeat
>>216985794tfw personally lived through his reign of terror. I feel a weird fondness for that era even if it was rage inducing
Does Quaritch still have his fully automatic six shooter?
>>216985786>>216985794>>216985817QRD, I don't remember. Even though I used to be in the WoW threads...
>>216985731well as long as it's just cuddling
>>216985853he does actually, it still works when he's a na'vi. He doesn't use the two-round burst mode though
>>216983951Do na'vi even comprehend the concept of suicide?
Watching the original version online after watching dub in cinema, Avatar must be one of the only movie where the dub version is so superior.>no dumb accent slipping>no bro and cuz>no geriatric teenager
Will it end #1?
So what would actual fans of these films on this vietnamese basket-weaving forum consider the major flaws of the most recent film to be? The "critics" seem to have very unfavorable opinions.But as with the last two films, I enjoyed it overall. First thing, and this isn't exactly a negative for but it felt a lot like I was binging a season of a TV show rather than watching a film. The negative aspect comes from the fact that at many points there were situations and interactions throughout the film (and the previous one) that I feel were repetative. The battles are always cool and the perilous situations for any of the Sullys are tense because you don't want them to die and you know they arent afraid to kill them off. But how many hostage/captive situations will be escaped from? How many standoffs and deals will be made without anybody deciding to skip the theatrics and just pull the trigger? How many times will the RDA try the same comically evil retarded shit over and over again? What random miracle will Eywa do next? I'm reaching for criticisms because I do like these films and I intend to keep watching till Jimmy is unable to make them anymore. I just can't really put my finger on why I dont LOVE these films.
Saw it for the first time today. I don't know what to say. I feel empty inside. Noticed some literary allusions in it, Jake & Spider = Abraham & Isaac, Scoresby and that blind tulkun = Ahab & Moby DickI loved Varang. FIRE FIRE DEATH DEATH, what a chuuni little girl she is. She's younger than she seems, really. When things don't go her way she panics, and she acted very petulant with Lo'ak.>Make thunder!>I told you, no thunder>MAKE THUNDER!LmaoAnyway I'm going to go see it again. I don't think other filmmakers are even trying anymore
>>216985934Also Quaritch usually sounds younger than 70, which is better. No real reason avatar people should sound the same as their human body
I am legitimately confused by the navi being upset about deaths, like yes they are dead and in the spirit world and that sucks for them i guess but the movie literally opens with the brothers hanging out despite the oldest's death. I just don't quite understand the human view of death, where we don't know what happens, is being applied to them when apparently even in death the navi can still all hang out casually by connecting to tree wifi.
>>2169859862 and 3 are 1 movie, that's why there are so many repetitive scenes. I guess in the next 2 things will be much different. Like 4 is said to be much darker and 5 will happen on Earth.
>>216985984It'll be lucky to beat Lilo & Stitch.
>>216985986I agree both movies repeat the same things too often and despite having a combined runtime of six and a half hours there's still a lot missing. Did they really have to cut a bunch of scenes to have another fucking whale montage?I guess you can say that everything good about the movie is because it's Camerons unrestrained vision, but everything bad about the movie is because it's Camerons unrestrained vision (he loves whales)
Anyone else think the ashen people should've been the main antagonists of the movie? They were built up so much only to be sidelined by "humans bad" shit
>>216985903Do they scale the guns up for giant hands?
>>216985929Why wouldn't they? Even dolphins know how to do it
>>216985934James and his team are so ass at writing teenage dialog. Its like what a board of executives imagine how a bunch of kids talk
>>2169859861 > 3 > 2Cameron is obsessed with underwater filmography. Wasted years trying to experiment underwater mocap and waiting for tech to advance even further. If he was more pragmatic, he would've made Quaritch and Varang evil duo in 2010s. Quaritch can do the same shit Jake experienced in Avatar 1 and it still would be 10x more fun than what we got in Avatar 2.
>>216985864He'd spam. And then he'd spam. And then he'd spam some more. His autism seemed to simultaneously be>Avatar is the greatest movie ever madebut also>No one else is ever allowed to speak about or mention Avatar, to discuss Avatar is to disrespect it, only "haters" post about Avatar so I must stop them as the True Avatar RespecterAnd this was before CAPTCHAs or post timers so he could literally just make the whole board 100+ threads of himself proclaiming Avatar's greatness and how everyone else is forbidden to speak
>>216986277Seems the general consensus is that Quaritch and Varang were the best part of the new film and I'd agree with that. First film he was just generic army dude villain to me. Second film he felt like a rehash out of left field along with spider. But this film he was the highlight. I'm fully on board with him being a rival character or getting a redemption arc or whatever the fuck Jimmy has planned for him.
>>216983186Based sexless incel virgin
>>216985636>Miles did I ever tell you about your mother? She had the juiciest ass out of all RDA female personnel on base. >The way she walked simply hypnotized you with her magnetic booty and if that didn't work her tits would just glue your eyes to her. Ohh swear I couldn't look over her neckline with how distracting it was.>When we had sex she would leg lock me so hard I could feel my pelvis being fractured. It was like my dick was the legendary sword Excalibur I simply couldn't pull it out. >Of course said unprotected sex lead to you. In retrospect I should have worn a rubber. Luckily Pandora has no child support laws so I was safe.>Anyways after she gave birth to you I started avoiding her. We didn't have time to reconcile because we had to go bomb the natives.>That adventure resulted in both of us dying. Funny enough in the exact same way. Arrow to the chest.>I loved your mother. Truly the finest and tightest piece of human ass on this moon.>And she was a good friend.
Okay let's get an answer to the most burning question the movie raised.Would you, or would you not eat Quarich's burger?
>>216982600>she's just ashamed when their skydemon parts make them stand outThat's a little bit racist
>>216985543It was actually all one script with 2, 3 and 4Some anon's have said they were at a test screening early in the year where they had a terraforming weapon in orbit that damaged eywa planet wide and that jake armed the na'vi with guns because it was all or nothingCameron corroborates this last part in an interview where he said he changed away from that because there were already na'vi with guns and he pulled toruk makto forwards from movie 4
>>216986515just looked like an empty bun to me. Really sad burger. He better teach the ash na'vi how to BBQ
>>216985543>Cameron might be the masterThis is something everyone has to figure out sooner or later
>>216986540maybe they should behave a little bit better and not subject their mother to such suffering?
>>216986388If you really look into it, Mangkwan was already in other Avatar media even before they filmed Avatar 2. So Varang and Quaritch was probably planned back then. Also if you analyze Way of Water it looks like a story solely meant for Lo'ak after getting exiled when he accidentally caused his brother's death. Then he gets redemption after taming a Tulkun which is analogous to Toruk. So why does Avatar 2 and 3 seemed to be mixed and matched? What happened? One possible answer: Disney interference - they wanted more family friendly easy to understand story. Notice how Avatar 2 and 3 has less Navi language. That's got to be Disney executive meddling. I mean Cameron spent months teaching the cast to learn Navi in Avatar 1. Why waste it unless it's ordered by the higher ups? Another thing, Way of Water is perfect for Disney rides and it we did see it in Flight of Passage ride. In Hollywood, it's always about compromise between director, writer and producers. Sure Cameron has a lot of pull but ever since Fox got bought out he needs to cater to Disney whims. So as a compromise he made Way of Water first. I also believe Spider is an idea from an executive as a sort of audience self insert. You see this shit in Disney movies where they'd have child characters or comedy characters because they believe it makes the movie more relatable.
https://youtu.be/KM4qJBNhY_QI just hope that the next movie shows the humans learning from their experience and making the cockpit of their vehicle arrow-proof, so the Na'vi need to find new ways to disable them.Like, it made sense in the first two movies, because these were utility vehicles first and foremost and were not expecting a massive assault, but showing the RDA being smart and ruthlessly pragmatic will go a long way to make them feel even more threatening.
>>216986290Oh, it was for the first Avatar... I'm too much of a young/newfag for that.Thanks for the explanation.
>>216986754I love these movies, but having three of them end with Na'vi launching a massive attack against a large RDA force, with the Na'vi initially losing then the tide being turned by the planet itself intervening seems a bit much.
Tried to rewatch the movie but it's honestly quite shit, I'm just rewatching Varang scenes
>>216986754PS1 Tuk
>>216986060That's just a backup copy of all his memories when he went to the spirit world for the last time, he didn't know how he died.
>>216986750>meant for Lo'ak after getting exiled when he accidentally caused his brother's deathI genuinely don't remember how he died... Was it during the final fight in 2? Or was it earlier?>I also believe Spider is an idea from an executive as a sort of audience self insertThe consensus seems to be that it's Cameron's own self insert, finally getting to bang Weaver.
>>216986772Yeah, especially considering that in this case the planet intervening seemed to be presented as a result of Kiri finally breaking through to Eywa. Yet the planet had intervened twice already without Kiri's breakthrough. Not mention how earlier in the movie Kiri was able to perform an even more spectacular miracle without having her breakthrough to or the guidance of Eywa.
>>216985284>>216985253So cute
>>216986896He gets shot rescuing the girls, before the final fight.
>>216986934And how was this supposedly Lo'ak's fault?
>>216986910>Yet the planet had intervened twice already without Kiri's breakthrough. Once in the first movie, zero times in the 2nd. Payakan just had a grudge against the whalers.
>>216986876kek, cute
>>216986948Thank you for correcting me. I guess I should have rewatched the second one more recently if I was gonna talk about it here. I was supposed to on Saturday but a friend bailed on me.
>>216984203She's (symbolically) raping people within like 5 minutes of first appearing onscreen
>>216982721>>216983227shes not stupid she's just traumatized
>>216986910I feel like Kiri getting through to Eywa actually undermined her developments earlier in the movie. She interacts with the environment herself, not through prayer. That seems like a much more active character development
>>216986946Jake explains it in the third movie.>If Lo'ak had done what he was told, he wouldn't have been near the whaling ship and the kids wouldn't have gotten captured, so they wouldn't have needed to be rescued, so Neteyam wouldn't have died tryingBasically it boils down to Lo'ak making friends with Payakan.
>>216986990>(symbolically)literally.
>>216976351I watched Avatar 1 on a Quest 2. Basically get a Side-by-side/Over-under rip of the movie (rutracker has the best collection of 3d movies). You can play it with software like Bigscreen, Skybox, or Pigasus VR (I preferred pigasus since it had the most options, but I haven't done this since 2022).Kinda sucks having to wear a brick on your head for 2.5 hours tho, Quest 2 is pretty uncomfortable. Haven't tried any other headset
How is this guy still the antagonist after all these years? Will they just bring him back to life every time they kill him no matter how many times he fails at taking pandora?
>"Qwaaritch">"Qwaaritch I want one!!!"
>>216981947Would be too kino
>>216987041Quaritch died in the first movie. Recom-Quaritch survived the 2nd movie and likely survived the 3rd one as well, he just took a leap of faith
>>216984045>ancestorsDo you mean their descendants?
>>216987029Ah okay, makes sense with simple side by side. Thought it would be baked together or something.
>>216985986WoW had me completely burned out from kidnapping and whales. FaA brings those things back again, which takes it down even if that's not a failure inherent to it. If there hadn't been endless whaling abd kidnapping in A2, then I wouldn't have minded it in A3.
>>216985456I thought her panic at the thought of him connecting to the tree without her was cute>N-no! You're not doing it without me!
TWO NA'VILLION DOLLARS INCOMING
>>216986702I mean imagine a white woman calling her half black children "could you act less like little n*ggers" when they misbehave
>>216985984No, tracking to 1.8b.
>>216984856He got shot and lived, easy
>>216982676Maybe all of the other Na'vi are speaking Na'vi, which is translated into English, while she is actually speaking English, as good as she can
>>216987041I don't think he's going to be the antagonist anymore. Or at least they have an opportunity to take him in a different direction now and I hope they don't because that would be interesting.
>>216984105Are there any drawfags who can make a version of this where Jake is the hippy and Neytiri is the most racist navi alive
>>216987280I hope they do*
>>216981116You sure like your feminist trash.
>>216987330I like dommy-mommy
You know as much as I love a crazy bitch villain, I was really disappointed with the Ash Na'Vis just being tribal retards driven by a sob story instead of rational people seeking to a better quality of life, and saying "know what, I don't really care about what the other tribes say, having a road between our villages will make trading much simpler.. and that volcano ash make the soil grow plants a lot quicker, maybe we could plant those seeds here and tend to them to have more food"
>>216981400She's honestly the most based loyal fierce stunningly beautiful wife in all of fiction and it's shocking to me that /tv/ overlooks her for the retarded ashy nihilist bitch just because she sways her hips more when she walks
There's this scene in the movie right after they escape Bridgehead and before Jake tries to kill Spider, when they land at the river and I'm like 43 % sure that there was no CG used, it was just a real river with real stocks and real sunlight shining on it.
In another thread, someone said that Varang was having an overstimulation melty during the big battle. Is it true? I did not notice that
>>216982017SHE IS A DANGEROUS WOMAN
>>216987413What is Tom Brady gonna do with that Na'vi woman?
>>216987413Me on the left
>>216987413>mfw trying to kiss the cute Na'vi girl
>>216987041>proud human supremacist and avid xenophobe>gets a single drop of native pussy>wtf I love Eywa nowHe would be the perfect character if he was still just as based and telling his waifu how fucking awesome humanity is and look at all this cool tech and shit, bitch. Let's go kill some Na'vi fags. Instead he gets soft and starry eyed. At least he's still the only interesting character in this dogshit franchise, even if he just keeps getting watered down.
>start writing a bad fanfic>it's a different timeline where pandora was visited by horse men>no space cat plot armor, the aliens use drones to remove all the males>all the women are gathered up for a gangbang>neytiri demands a negotiation>lmao okay sure, get in the ship>she is fucked silly by 20 aliens with horse cocks>but eywa protects her daughters>all semen evaporates in the womb by magic>what now, losers?>oh wow you sure showed us>keep fucking her, boys
>>216987423She was just chanting FIRE FIRE DEATH DEATH like a lunatic
>>216987413
>>216987466He doesn't give a shit about Eywa though. You didn't even watch it
>>216987466>He would be the perfect character if he was still just as based and telling his waifu how fucking awesome humanity is and look at all this cool tech and shit, bitch. Let's go kill some Na'vi fags.Which he does.> Instead he gets soft and starry eyed. This part never happened.
>>216987513>tfw grabbing the ass for every photo
Is the newest game any good? In a moment of weakness I bought the complete edition bundle on steam.
>>216987559It was half the price on Ubisoft's own store. And you need an Ubisoft account to play it anyway
>>216987282Never ask a native activist the race of her boyfriend ...
>>216987607
>He knows. He knows you know. He knows you know he knows...Lucky fucking bastard, kek
>>216987559I only recently started playing it and it’s okay so far, but hasn’t blown me away. Looking forward to getting an Ikran because aerial combat looks like the highlight of the game.
>>216984646I would give her the business end of my dick
>>216987394based. I love Neytiri
>>216985253and that's why you go varang
>>216987439>with that perfectly normal-sized human woman painted in blue*FTFY
>>216986910I felt the point was that Kiri never actually gets Eywa to do what she wants. She has been doing it herself all along. It's a Jesus situation
>>216987413Ideal height
>>216985253it's so funny how such a trivial thing makes fragile chuddies cry their little eyes out
>>216988161Eywa is a caretaker program. Its purpose is simply to preserve the planet's ecosystem long term. "talking to it" like it understands and has a personality to do stuff for you is idiotic. Kiri simply discovers she has admit rights since Grace's soul passed through Eywa and can force the program to do what she wants.
>>216986772Eywa didn’t intervene in the second one though
>>216988457Eywa DID intervene. The Recoms are literally only there because Eywa is constantly destroying any human forces that venture out. The Recoms are perceived as normal Na'vi, so allowed to pass. Eywa is not an all-mighty, omnipotent, God. Its power is only through the animals and whatever is connected to the network. It can't destroy the human city as they blasted a miles wide barren hole in the forest and have a huge kill zone to destroy any animal hordes.
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>>216988538The guy I replied to claimed Eywa intervened at the end to save the Navi. That didn’t happen in the second one
>>216987394Unironically this.Neytiri is pretty much the perfect wife material. Not waifu-bait, but an actual portrayal of a woman who deeply loves her man and her family, and does it all for them. Plus cute as an angel.
>>216984181Niggergenes
>>216983399>died then brought back for one purpose only, to find Jake and nothing elseThis is your headcanon. The blue team was established to have a counter to the planets natural defenses since they were considered indigenous. Their first mission was to take down Jake since he was leading attacks on RDA bases and fucking up their supply chains
>>216988590She's pretty much the only wife in cinema actually embodying "we are mated FOR LIFE". It's not a joke. She's not always ready to abandon him whenever something goes wrong. She doesn't always agree, but she will not openly display those feelings toward her husband in front of others causing him to lose face. It's refreshing. But sad that the concept of wife has diminished so much.
>>216986060It isn't a spirit world, those are simulated copies made from memory backups. An argument could be made that those are still separate, but sentient beings, although they don't seem to have a persistent life inside. The copies can be booted up to be interacted with, but the process ends when the visitor exits. Regardless, the original person is 100% dead.
>>216983557>Maybe there are ten more Quaritches running around with ten more Lyles too.And ten more Varangs, yes.
>>216988921Yep, it will be interesting to see after the time skip when everyone's aged so much, they go in there to visit and the dead are all still the same younger selves.
