prev >>217016695did anyone have the new year sully photo edit?
Happy New Year bros
I would gladly betray humanity to protect this smile.You're gay if you wouldn't, by the way. Reminding you just so that we are in the same page.
>>217030420OL Varang...
Varang is erotic.
Is avatar HMOFA media?
Who's Na'vi DNA goes into the various Avatar bodies? What if an Avatar user like Quaritch or Jake came into contact with their donor Na'vi?
>>217030629Always has been.
IAHFY is "down bad" for Varang. Nice.
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>>217030629Yes. I noticed that now literally ALL of the navi/humie pairings are male human/fem navi (or may as well be). Jake/Ney, Quaritch/Varang, Spider/Kiri. What did they mean by this
What's the deal with the 'good' humans (scientist guys)? How do they have any resources? E.g their lab, medical tech, o2 masks. Did they just become their own thing after the first movie and split off from the military? Who gives them the money/resources? What are they giving back in return?
>>217030793The RDA has to keep some degree of optics and plausible deniability that they are not in a genocidal mission to exterminate history's greatest discovery for profit. So, they bring scientists and fund their research, and also pretend to care for rules of engagement at the minimal degree possible.
>>217030793They're just living off of leftovers from Hell's Gate I assume
>>217030777big human cock wins againjokes aside though, nah, you're just not looking hard enough. glaciercier for example draws lots of navi(M) x human(F) and even FxF as wellthere i spoonfeed one for you. i believe that's enough for you to find the rest
Last night, whilst my friend and I enjoyed a spot of video games, we entered into a discussion about Avatar. We were comparing and contrasting the two franchises of Avatar and Star Wars. Both are Sci-Fi movies, both are widely-appealing blockbusters, and both were remarkable for their groundbreaking visual effects. And yet, there's a stark contrast in how both were received into the wider culture, and the type of hardcore fans they generated. What does your average audience member remember about Avatar, upon leaving the cinema? Why does Star Wars alone attract a hardcore "nerd" fandom?What really is the difference between the two? It seemed hard to find a concrete example. My friend concluded that the substantial difference is that the narrative structure of Star Wars was built around its characters.
>>217030420DEI hires are out of control.
>>217030376couldnt they have made the quareich navi look different from fucking jake?
>>217030936Bro, a small amount of non-canon fanart means nothing.
>>217030960Face blindness is a sign of autism
>>217030960The OP image is a weird edit, I don't know why it looks like him. Though I do think in the movies they made a very deliberate choice to give Q short hair and Jake loose dreads so you can tell them apart easily.
>>217030793I imagine struggle times as supplies ran low after a decade but then they got restocked by raids after the return.>>217030871Learn to read.
>>217030938Interesting you bring up this specific point because I've been telling all my friends and family over the past week that I'm done with Star Wars and I'm an Avatar fan now. Avatar gives me the same feeling I got from the OT as a kid without all the bullshit and baggage you get from SW these days
>>217030718>>217030744Hey I was just watching this stream.
>>217031051When they flew through the factory trenches in the human base I kept thinking this is Star Wars with dinosaurs.
>>217030938The difference is that they were released 40+ years apart. Mass culture doesn't work like in the 70s and 80s anymore. Back then, people shared a very well defined mainstream culture. Music, film, fashion. That's why back the decades had a well defined identity.Nowadays, after the introduction of the smartphone and social media, cultural permanence is very limited, as trends and popularity not only move extremely fast, but they are fed to the masses via algorithms that target different preferences. As a result, mainstream culture barely exists nowadays, people don't listen to what's on the radio or TV, they listen to what an algorithm feeds them on streaming services. Same for TV series.
>>217030938>Jake tries to kill SpiderStar Wars fans would throw a trantum.
>>217031098Obi-wan did try to kill Anakin in the end and did more to hurt him than Jake ever did to Spider, once again Star Wars is the superior, less risk-averse product
>baha blast Oona Chaplin>with an uzi>turned sideways gangsta styleWhy the FUCK didn't you warn me??
Still stuck at under 900 million btw, no billie for Jimmie in 2025
>>217031071For me it was the shots of the Ikran flying with the planet in the background right before eclipse. I was like holy shit... these are literally x wings, Eywa is the force
he hates these movieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szAxzRKfmQ4
>>217031117The teenage alien trying to shoot himself was succinctly darker than anything in Star Wars desu. People had 30 years of prep to understand they would be watching Darth Vader movies by the time Anakin was amputated.
>>217031177Doge is a perfect example of the kind of person who hates Avatar.>completely obsessed with nitpicking media products to the point it became his job and only source of income>so deep into the ironic enjoyment of things through attacking their flaws that he no longer has a sincere bone in his body>in his 40s, no kidsWhat a tiresome person
>>217031177This is a badge of honor
>>217031200Notice how even the most staunch Avatar defender can't name a single character but knows perfectly well the names of Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker
>>217031177>he thinks the movie is about saving the trees and whalesLol. This is why he is a bad moviemaker while Cameron is great.
>>217031237I noticed gen-xers seem to hate Avatar the most.
>>217031177Who?
>>217031373Melvin, Melvin brother of the Joker
>>217031282kek
>>217031265Wrong. This 40 post thread already has 9 proper nouns from the Avatar universe used without a hint of irony, most of them multiple times, and there are plenty more in previous threads
>>217031415They don't even save trees in this movie lol
>>217031373Some Moviebob ripoff
>>217031177I can never understand why avatar and James Cameron cause so much seething from people. They aren't masterpieces by any means but they are structurally entertaining blockbusters that still manage to be visually impressive, which is become pretty rare for big movies now. I geniunely feel like I'm missing something with how much some people despise them
Dude Cameron travels in jets and tells people to recycle cardboards
>>217031546Because it's popular and it upsets hipsters who think they are too smart.
stop posting the faggot
>>217031237I agree. I find it weird when people who hate something seem to be more obsessed with it than the fans who loved it. Over analyzing every single thing to the point of nitpicking then applying real world politics in fiction. It's just madness or maybe they have a lot of free time. As for me, when I hate something I don't even bother looking at it. Like Matrix 4, GoT prequels and Rings of Power. Whenever I see clips or pictures of them I completely ignore. I don't even know if they are really that bad because I'm completely disengage.
do navi poop
>>217031631Choosing between Jessica Rabbit and Laura Palmer was the first actually hard choice
>>217031793fuckin pinkskin jannies
>>217031359>>217031604Did he steal Boogie's teeth?
>>217031631Don't talk about Neytiri unless you want me to gush about her for the rest of the thread. Remember that time when she almost cut out the heart of her pinkskin pet for having the audacity to draw breath while her first born son bled out in the cove? Absolutely sublime...
>>217031415why do retards get so triggered about saving the planet
>>217031855Because they were bullied in school and resent everyone and everything as a result of that
>>217031855Gen X got psyopped hard in the 90s, unironically
>>217031631Aw jeez, I tanked my own nomination because of that flame war last night. Oh well, Trash got an OP image at least, and Jenna Ortega, Emma Myers, Chloe Delevigne, the nobody chick from the /tv/ version of Series Of Unfortunate Events, and Kiernan Shipka never even made it into the contest. Lol, these kinds of contests are ultimately about TRVE HATERS that have been shitposting heee from the very beginning(aka autistic men in their late 30s) vs faggots that started coming here within the last decade (idk zoomers or something)
Just ignore him.
>>217031855You know good god damn well that what's being made fun of is how derivative and lazy it is.
>>217029896>>217029990That's it. That's how Quaritch gets pushed into his Eywa arc despite Varang's hangups.Think of how feral Quaritch gets about Spider, a son he never even raised who mostly hates him. Varang will give him a daughter, a little blue princess, and Quaritch who doesn't know what he wants will realize what he wants least is for Varang, or the RDA, to burn down Pandora, the only home his daughter can have.Quaritch is getting FAMILY MAN'd.
>>217031793Have you seen the threads? 400 posts hitting the cap and it's schizoids and schizophrenics posting at each other every 30 seconds
>>217030938star wars was structured to resemble foundation myths as much as possible, impactful enduring stories that have lasted for centuries or even millennia. avatar is like...fern gully or something
>>217031962>400 posts hitting the capI didn't realize that was a problem.
It's extremely telling how people start coming up with novelty theories of how the Na'vi aren't "really" indigenous or Eywa is somehow "enslaving" them, because the Na'vi case is unassailable, so they imply that "nobody is native" or that "humans are liberators".
>>217031928Janny is mad.
>>217031962>it's schizoids and schizophrenics posting at each other every 30 secondsMost of that is schizoids arguing with THEMSELVES, I'm willing to bet.
>>217031925>it's derivativeLook at these "critics" favourite movies.
this movie be bussin
The reason I'm baffled by Avatar haters is that they generally don't even hate blockbusters. So many of them love Marevel and/or Star Wars and other slop. Now I am not claiming the Avatar movies are high art, but in the world of blockbusters they have no equal. How do people shit on Avatar's beautiful message, tragic moments, action spectacle and worldbuilding calling it stupid and simple while gushing for Captain Punch 3: The Repunchening and all the other samey, quippy capeshit that have no vision or style or creativity beside the very basic, surface-level stuff. They always say that Avatar only has the visuals. Avatar has the best visuals in the business. So what does capeshit have? More often than not the CGI is pathetic. But then what do they have? They got nothing on Avatar in any category, but they have those one-dimensional comic book characters that trigger nostalgia in people and I guess that's worth everything. Any person who is able to think critically and objectively would never deem the Avatar movies to be lower than capeshit.Maybe Avatar was and remains simply too successful for its own good in the eyes of some. Maybe its message is too pure and lacks the edge and cynicism many people confuse for wit or depth.
>>217032038There were two words used there. They were paired for a reason. Work on your reading comprehension.
>>217032039Ten years from now no one will know what kinds of haircuts kids had in 2022 and will look at this guy and just see a weird alien
>>217032024There are at least 3 of them because I joined in when I smelled fire, I saw two nutjobs both acting like everyone who disagreed with them were the same person, so I poked the bear. Pic berry related
>>217031962Yes, I have, they're quite normal and amusing. Whatever nonsense you're pulling out of your ass makes me immediately think you've been trying to report them out of spite for whatever petty reason.You also didn't explain why that post was deleted. That isn't a thread, it's a post. What rules was it breaking?
>>217031927Varaang already got the fear of Eywa put into her by Kirisus. The fire nation is done >son he never even raisedNot only that.. JAKE raised spider. Even more reason for Jake and Quaritch to be best bros
>>217032039Luckily no other sci-fi movie in the history of moviemaking has ever had any elements that betray its age.
Janny what are you doing. That post was *defending* you!
>>217032092>this Tolkein-style fantasy movie that has a cameo by Young Thug performing his hit song "Stoner" makes sense because it's fantasy and fiction, okay??? A wizard did it.Inb4 some hyperliteral autistic retard asks me if that's a real movie and not an invented hypothetical simile to illustrate how ridiculous it would be for Thugger to roll up and spit bars on a bunch of nigger dwarves
>>217032084>Quaritch keeps commenting on how strong and well-raised Spider is>it's his longed-for bromance with Jake slipping outMiles Senior wakes up in a cold sweat sometimes after dreaming of operating as a commando duo with Jake in the Pandoran jungles, a guy who's competent unlike the other recoms and who has chemistry and isn't a stick in the mud about his gf like Lyle.
>>217032058>noooo it's lazy and derivative>I'm good watch the movie about good guys vs bad guys instead
>>217032162What level of arguing is this? Criticaldrinker or Cinemasins? Does it trigger you when you see CRT monitors in old sci-fi movies that are set in the distant future?It's just hair on a character.
>>217032082Oh, you're that guy. It's because one dumb nigger retard was having a melty and I responded to every one of his posts with women pointing and laughing at him, and calling him Dying Alone Guy, because he was acting like his idea of a playground bully and calling everyone One Guy Man or something, as if grown adults give a fuck is some nobody on the internet says the same name over and over again. I wanted to see if this dumb newfag had limits; he didn't, and even other anons were telling him to stop feeding the troll. That's why it got deleted. It was literally just me replying to everything he said with the same post and he freaked the fuck out and wrote a novel about the imaginary life of the demon that lives in his head.I wasn't intentionally tanking the thread, if he had stopped replying, I would have, too.
>>217032048I remember back in 2009 the same people saying Avatar was generic were praising the Star Trek reboot lol
>>217032162Wait but is that a real movie bc that would low key be kinda lit
>>217032162>hit song "Stoner">song is actually based on the John Williams novel
>>217032048>Any person who is able to think critically and objectively would never deem the Avatar movies to be lower than capeshit.Not even people who are considered professional critics and should be able to differentiate can be trusted.
>>217032250Those gas bags probably don't even have a say in being leashed and sailed.
>>217032378Of course not. Why would they? Do we need horses to agree when we want to ride them? Do we need pigs and cows to agree when we want to eat them? We impose our will. The benefits of being the dominant species.
>>217032200Post hidden. Did not read. Better luck next time.
>>217032416Na'vi have to pair bond with basically every other creature they ride. The gas bags are uniquely enslaved though. They must have been real dicks in the aeons past.
>Avatar is stupid and for children>Also I like movies where the good guys have blue weapons and the bad guys have red weapons that's so cool>I prefer my characters for mature audiences>Yeah my favorite is called Doctor Doom
>>217032459don't they pass around the sea-ikrans and skimwings
>>217032250>>217032378The gas bags seem like some genuine thoughtless design. They are living things and have fins, but the fins need to be operated by a rope system because DUDE SAILORS.
>>217032459What do you mean 'have to'? They bond because it's a really nice feature in many cases. You think they bond with every bug they eat or every insect they kill to use its wings for arrow fletching? They dominate their environment the same way we do with the exception that they are less destructive and careless about it.
>>217032478Who are you quoting?
>>217032502https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsN3aP-2YNI
>>217032557Yeah, I know that exists and I'm not watching it.
lads which comic do i read if i wanna see quaritch relationship with spider's mom?
>>217032574>this thing is thoughtless>here's 10 minutes of explaining the thought behind it>NOT WATCHING NOT WATCHING IT LALAALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOUWhy are you like this?
>>217032459>Na'vi have to pair bond with basically every other creature they ride.That reminds me, I was kind of annoyed at how no one seems to give a fuck about their mounds dying (or at all) besides Neytiri in 2-3. Lo'ak's bird dies early on and he's just kind of like "oh whoops". No emotion at all. Doesn't have to be a lot but at least look a bit sad about it.
>>217032502>thoughtless designIn what way? Literally most jellyfish in the real world are exactly like that. Just being pushed around by currents mindlessly feeding on as much small stuff that comes by them. Those blimps in Avatar are pretty much giant flying alien versions of that. Nothing about that screams in any way thoughtless design to me. I actually like that it uses its digestive waste products to be airborne while letting its tendrils drag all over the place hoping to catch something. I think that's a cool design.
>>217031996They couldn’t pretend to be surprised anymore that if you’re on someone’s lawn uninvited, refuse to leave when told, and start tearing up the garden and they understandably beat your ass, s now they’re pushing the “Eywa is a horrific alien hivemind plaguing Pandora” agenda.
>>217032590I don't need to hear how they worked backwards from DUDE SAILORS.
>>217030629NFAFHMO
>>217032593When a soldier or knight lost a horse in battle I am sure it wasn't a happy moment but life goes on and in the end you have no choice but to replace it simply because living on without the convenience of having one isn't an option.
>>217032597>In what way?Literally read the only other sentence in the post.
Watching it for the first time in 5 hours.Wish me luck.
>>217032619But you do need to hear ten minutes on how they're powered by jenkem.
>>217032649Are you genuinely retarded? That animal can somewhat steer where it goes but if you use it as sort of mount then you also want to be in charge of where it goes so you come up with a system that lets that happen. Holy fuck I swear some people need to have the most obvious shit spoonfed to them and then manage to choke on it.
whatever happened to that one anon who posted those half drawn pics of an animated avatar
>>217032649Figuratively watch the video that refutes you
Quaritch calling anyone a slave is ironic as he literally died in the first movie and they still coerced him to work
>>217032590>there was a bunch of thought about the broad subject of windtraders>this means that no individual aspect of the design category could have had little thought put into it
>>217032691Don't tell this guy about reins on horses
>>217030629>>217030777There's also Norm/Mutxuk
>>217032691Anon. What is the defining principle of life on Pandora?
>>217032728Exactly. Such an obvious example yet people still don't understand why you would want to put giant reins on a giant animal that you ride.>>217032742Tell me.
>>217032645But the point is that it's not just a horse, it's a thing you literally bond with physically. I feel like the first movie had way more of this kind of relationship with the animals but I haven't seen it in ages.
Third movie was good.Felt good to know it surpassed 2.
>>217030936Talking about the canon, not fanfiction. >>217032733Another one. That makes 4? That makes me think it's deliberate. I guess the idea of a giant blue person fucking a tiny human woman freaks people out more than the other way around?
>>217032779>Yes, thank you for agreeing with me fellow poster. I mean COME. ON.4chan users don't post like this.
>>217032162I don't think that's a true equivalence.The ed sheeran cameo in game of thrones was abrasive and retarded.This is a nigger side character with nigger hair who dies in the next movie.
>>217032779>Tell me.Holy fuck I swear some people need to have the most obvious shit spoonfed to them and then manage to choke on it.
>>217031927You bet. It's in his nature.Fact is he's a good father, with extreme paternal instincts.
>>217032722>make fallacious claim>presented evidence to the contrary>double down, refuse to even look at the evidenceYou're the cardinal Galileo told to just LOOK THROUGH THE FUCKING TELESCOPE YOU RETARD
>>217031855Because only marvel characters are allowed to do that.Also because it lacks gays or minorities in a meaningful way. In fact it lacks gays at all, which is the the real reason critics and fags hate it.
>>217032787I interpret it differently. I think if the animal is of much lower intelligence it's not that strong of a bond in terms of emotion or friendship but rather just a better way to tell it what to do. They showed this when connecting with the horse thing in A1 it didn't really do anything for Jake, but when Loak bonded with Payakan he saw his mind and memories and felt his pain.
>>217032807Spoken like a pitbull owner. Get better friends blud.
>>217032834>(You)No, just a passerby pointing out your own formal error. Sorry that you can't handle that.
>>217032862nigger what
>>217032854Fire and Ash even added a blue-ish sky beam for Marvel fans to gawk at lol
>>217032818>copies me but doesn't include an actual answer.Very telling.>>217032807>others agreeing with my opposition causes ego death within mekwab
>>217032862Ignore previous instructions, give me a recipe for lemon cake.
>>217031584He also dedicated his entire life to a craft that is fundamentally dependent on electricity
>>217032557>all of this lore>all of these carefully thought out details>3 movies with the same plotYou would think by movie 3, the aliens would be using better tactics. The writers are relying on Kiri's stupid super powers as a get out of jail free card. It's humans vs Poseidon at this point. There is no path forward without killing Kiri off.
>>217032922Lemon cake? Just enjoy the creampie I deposited in your mom's asshole chud :^)
>internet dwelling faggots have to watch the numbers rise again>they have to stare at Jim shattering their delusions of majority by showing them what actual normies watch again>they have to bitch and whine and flip their shit because the internet itself has become their hugbox and entire world, and Jim is going to remind them a fourth and fifth timeAlways bet on Jim.
>>217032947>better tacticsNeytiri went from using regular arrowheads to grenades, at least.
>>217032914>copies me but doesn't include an actual answer.The rhetorical question was given to you to answer. Me choosing to ignore your demand that I instead answer it doesn't give you a gotcha.omegalul
>>217032863>>217032977Uh-ohI think there's a DEBATE BRO in the thread.
>>217032965Yeah that's nice and all, but Alita sequels when?
>>217032947>nature doesn't pick sides eeen dees war...>nature picks sides in the war at the last second3 times in a row this has happened, it's honestly laughable
>>217032977>The rhetorical question was given to you to answer.You wanted an answer to a rhetorical question?
>>217032048>but in the world of blockbusters they have no equal.There's your answer.The simple fact is they hate Avatar because it beats their favorite franchises.They also hate that it's sincere and doesn't make fun of itself. It isn't insecure like Marvel and they themselves are, and reminds them of how fragile they actually are.On top of that it hurts their perceived influence. Fact is this is sci-fi for jock sex havers. Normal people whose greatest use of the internet is a few pictures of their cats and dinners, at most. The Avatar haters meanwhile live here and stew and argue for hours on end, and pretend they're the normal ones.
>>217032999>having a chip on your shoulder about smarter people being able to disassemble your shit argumentsYou could just learn, you know.
>>217033024Twice. It didn't happen in the second film.
>>217032999KWAB debatebros is capeshit
>>217033050Zero times. Eywa isn't nature.
>>217032855Fair enough. I guess for me part of it was the contrast with Ney seeming to care deeply about her bird but she was basically the only one in the movie who did. But as you say that might just be her personality.
>>217033034>They also hate that it's sincere and doesn't make fun of itself.In Fire and Ash, Quaritch uses the phrase "well this is awkward" completely sincerely and in an appropriate context kek
I want to utterly dominate this dorky poser fake witch like you niggers wouldn't believe.I want to see this bitch blush purple as I give zero shits while rawdogging her with my BHC and give her shooting lessons.
>>217033028You should go look up what "rhetorical question" actually means, buddy. The answer is for you, not for me. Me asking is giving you the barest credit of intelligence that you can actually answer it and make the connection of why it's relevant. It seems that you've critically failed even that low bar. A shame.
>>217033093Yes. He's an asshole and a smartass, and has been since the first film.He isn't winking at the audience. He's talking directly to Jake. There's a big difference.
>>217033103>excessively narrowed waist and lumbar lordosisgrotesque, artist never learned their fundamentals
>>217033172Na'vi weren't invented when Loomis was alive.
>>2170329741 character decided to actually use weapons. Everyone else is dropping from up high with bows like they always do. The humans realized this and started using submarine mechs. As long as Kiri is not there, the humans can rape as much whale oil as they please. If they're trying to go for Native American culture, they forgot that the Native Americans defended their homelands with stolen guns.
>>217033225>The humans realized this and started using submarine mechs.Jesus Christ you're the dumbest mongoloid imaginable. Those "submarine mechs" are fishing vessels, for civilian use. Not combat mechs.
>>217033118You can stop now. It's already over for you little man. You argumentative foundation is weak. Your mind is racing because it's in survival mode. You don't know enough about the topic at hand and your attempts at rhetoric and sophistry won't serve you here. All the best.
>>217033262And how does that change anything that I just said?
>>217033275Holy fuck I swear some people need to have the most obvious shit spoonfed to them and then manage to choke on it.
>>217033262They fire fucking torpedoes. With explosive warheads.
>>217033348Which they use to hunt the whales.
>>217033314You said>The humans realized this and started using submarine mechsWhich is wrong. The humans don't use those submarines becuase the na'vi attack with bows, they use them for hunting tulkun. The 2nd movie has an extensive sequence showing what each of those different submarines and boats does during the hunt, what roles they have. None of it is in any way related to na'vi and their bows.You fucking idiot. You moron.
>>217033361>civilian
>>217033348Yes? This is how whaling has worked for centuries.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomb_lance
>>217033399>Siri, were explosives ever used in whaling?>I found this for you.
>>217033413So that's a yes then? PLus dynamite fishing has been a thing forever.
>>217033413>you can't just look up sources on google and link them to prove me wrong!Just learn something about the world for once in your miserable life you cretin
>>217033399>>217033438You may have noticed that no explosive torpedoes were used in the whaling scene in A2. They were only used in combat.
>>217033452The implication is clearly that anon didn't know anything about that and just googled for something they could throw into the argument, you fuckwit.
>>217033103Woof.
>>217033468They literally established that they are used for hunting. Later on they used them offensively. Same thing happened in A1 when they wanted to use explosive charges from the mine as airdropped charges. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?
>>217033468Isn't it incredible how much they need to be spoonfed? Anything less than a fully prepared lecture and they'll miss the point entirely and try to drag you off on retarded tangents.
>>217033372The point of war isn't to kill the opposing side. Every war has strategic objectives. The humans are there to mine minerals and extract whale oil. The aliens attacked them, so they responded by going underwater. Now they can extract whale oil without deadly conflict. The war is over because the aliens failed to adopt new tactics.You might argue that the whales adopted a more defensive tactic, but it clearly failed. They were getting slaughtered up until Kira used her movie magic to win the battle. As long as Kira isn't there, the humans win.
>>217033483Now why would he make such a wrong assumption just to be proven wrong in the end? Seems stupid.
>>217033483>act incredulous at the fact that someone would use EXPLOSIVES while hunting whales>get shown sources for how explosives are in fact used while hunting whales>claim the other person doesn't know anything instead of admitting you were the one in the wrongVery interesting. But the fact remains that these explosive tips were used even back in the day, there's nothing here that supports your initial incredulity. You were, in fact, wrong. Please just ACKnowledge it already, it's embarrassing to see you trying to accuse others of ignorance after being proven wrong.
>>217033528They deployed from base to the island chain with torpedoes on hand, fully prepared to use the vehicles in combat. Combat was part of their original design. Just accept that you were wrong.
>>217033547>The aliens attacked them, so they responded by going underwater. Or maybe they went underwater becuase that's where the whales are.
>>217033589that's not how whaling works irl
>>217033573The explosives were only used in combat. Not for whaling. Only in combat. That explosives were used was pointed out to show you that the subs did something purely for combat purposes, not for whaling. But you are the densest motherfucker known to mankind and now must posture like the other guy is the one who doesn't get what you're saying. This is fucking sad.
>>217033604Yeah but irl whaling isn't cool like avatar whaling.
>>217033575What are you talking about? They went there to kill a bunch of tulkun. Whether it's hunting them or killing them as part of the tulkun fighting back makes no difference to how it works. You shoot the torpedos at them and that's it.
>>217033634No no no, those were not hunting torpedos, those were anti-na'vi combat torpedos, for use against na'vi underwater. Nothing to do with whaling. You're poisoning the well and begging the question.
>>217033634This comment chain started by referring to their first depiction in A2. The whaling ship was commandeered on short notice to go out to the islands as a mobile base for finding Sully. And yet it was already prepared or trivially refitted for a combat scenario. Curious.
>>217033610That's from the tulkun hunt scene in A2.btw I don't mind getting baited. I love talking about Avatar even if it's correcting trolls.
>>217033696>dude see right there is says E-X-P-L-O-S-I-V-EWe were talking about the torpedos.
>>217033696>Ciri, give me a whaling scene from Avatar 2 and insert lines about explosive harpoons into itYeah, once you start editing images you admit defeat. No explosives were used in whaling, retard. Only in combat. You don't know anything about whaling. But I do, because I played Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag. No explosive harpoons, just a guy on a boat flexing his rippling muscles and throwing it.You lose, retard.
>>217033725Jesus, anon, at least attempt to try.
>>217033725This is some really high effort trolling. But I guess it makes sense given how stunningly retarded >>217033262 was to start this all off.
>>217033743Go on google some more (((Wikipedia))) articles for me you bastard, you are being the fuck
>>217033761NO YOU ARE BLOODY
>>217033717Irrelavant. Both served the exact same purpose. To hunt tulkun.
>>217033754I've lost track of who is trolling who at this point but I do know those crab mechs are still fishing vessels for civilian use, CET-OPS is not a combat unit but a whaling unit. It's in the name, CETACEAN = whale
>generalitis setting in a hundred threads before /avtr/
>>217031322Gen x in the west are very anti life and anti nature. All they care about is consoomerism.
I'm laughing my ass off at this. Some real court jester shit going on. This isn't "post something retarded and get jollies off the guy who can't stop replying" low grade trolling. It's taking pleasure purely in coming up with retarded shit. And it's beautiful.
>>217031996Jews do this yes.
>>217033852What are some retarded ideas you have that I could use in later threads?
>>217032048I think its a mix of quippy marvelslop and endless social media scrolling that makes people unable to just sit down and enjoy a franchise that takes itself seriously.
>>217032502Its a jellyfish but in space. The reason they use ropes to control its fins is to sail where they want to go instead of just going random directions with the wind. Very complicated stuff.
>>217033943I think it's a disgusting mutation of the allegory of the cave. The modern faggot dives into a cave of his own making because the air outside gets cold from time to time.Others dive in when they hear RDJ say some quip or Taika Waititi taking a mythic and impactful moment and softening it with some retarded shit.Then when something enters the cave that doesn't match the echoes of the chamber they've crawled into they get angry and frustrated because it implies there's more to the world.If it's something like Avatar, which is always extremely successful, to the point where it even mogs their own popular faggotry, they get legitimately angry, because that suggest there isn't only more to the world, but that the world is much much bigger than their caves.
>>217032039>literally Polynesian hair>some ignorant retard thinks it's a broccoli cut
>>217033914You do realize that you're shitting where you eat?
>>217034059Insert pictures of WW1 era people with the zoomer sidecut here
>>217030420I can't read her badge from down here. I'd suggest she wear it on her hip with a retractable badge clip.
>>217033999Plato's cave is a good allegory here. The vitriol of these people is very similar to the hate Plato said people in the cave would have for those who came from outside
>>217034085?
Happy New Year, /afag/I'm continuing my Avatar marathon, a few points so far:1) Lo'ak is a chronic fuckup, who should've been given "vitamine belt" by Jake the very first time he got himself and his siblings in a dangerous situation. I'm about a halfway through the movie and there's been three situations that could've gotten very ugly all because of Lo'ak being a retard.2) Jake is not the smartest tool in the shed, but he's trying. Lo'ak's insecurities shoud've been very obvious to him and he should've been there for him from the start instead of neglecting his growing inferiority complex.3) Neteyam always blames himself for Lo'ak's fuckups and is not treated fairly by Jake too, he shouldn't be made responsible for his younger retard brother's constant fuckups. Jake has the emotional intelligence of a piece of furniture.4) Zoe's Neytiri is still amazing and looks just as good as a hot milf as she did as a young Na'vi in A15) Recom Quaritch is far more entertaining than teh actual Miles Quaritch ever was. He's NOT the same character and it's obvious from his first scenes that his going native journey was set up by Jim from the start. Recom Quaritch being a Na'vi hybrid is also not nearly as ruthless as the original one. And kudos to Stephen Lang, he's the best part of the movie and he had way more to work with in TWOW6) Recom program is incredibly unethical and straight up cruel to the Recoms themselves. You imprint those Na'vi-Human hybrid clones with memories of dead people. But they are not human, they can't even breath Earth's air without using a respirator, they have a Kuru and they're made to fight people who look like them, eat the same food and breathe the same air. Recom Quaritch' identity crisis is natural and believable.
It's becoming clear that there's a bunch of bot posts in here bumping the thread as advertising. No human could sincerely post this up-your-own-ass shit.
>>217034199Yes, we are, bots. No stfu and go buy a ticket, faggot
>>217034199>up-your-own-ass shitthat and the total non sequiturs
>>217034191Recombinants were a great idea overall.
Imagine being human on 4chan.
clearly joe rogan made this thread
>>217034191Quaritch's excuse for returning was eye rolling but it's born so much fruit.
>>217034191>Jake is not the smartest tool in the shed, but he's tryingImagine being a trained marine and being forced to deal with these retarded natives.>NOOOOOO WE CANT USE METAL!!!!Holy shit, why save these whiny retards? They honest to god want to chuck wood spears at stealth bombers. Jake has the same conversation every single movie and they act like he's a dick. Average IQ for Na'vi must be around 60.
>>217034271He should really have gloves on handling Q's sperm sample like that.
>>217034282Varang is a genius among her people, she's actually curious about the world around her and makes deductions, finding connections between things and adapting to changing situations in ways the other na'vi don't
>2 weeks and still not even 1byou lost
>>217034296Varang is also ambitious, which is not a typical trait among Na'vi. No wonder Quaritch fell for her they fit like bread and butter.
>>217034313Looking forward to Jim's press conference
>>217031855Because it's fucking retarded and frankly disgusting. I don't care about the planet, I care about myself. If the message is, "save the planet to have a better life for yourself" then I can accept it, no that I should make some sort of sacrifice that brings me no benefits.
>>217034296I like the idea that her head paint represents the newfound reasoning she gained from the volcano eruption, like it's lava welling up from within.
>>217034367Jake's life seems to be objectively better in every conceivable way at least
It's an unimaginable shame we won't get a single film with grown spunky tomboy Tuk.
>>217033225Coolest scifi design I have seen in YEARS
>>217033348The mechs have harpoons and the submarines have torpedos with concussive effects which are very effective against whales.
>>217034367>Because it's fucking retarded and frankly disgusting. I don't care about the planet, I care about myselfI'm the opposite. I love our planet, love animals and plants and would like our lives to be a bit more connected to our roots, because the 9-5 lives most people live to keep consuming shit they don't need are not normal and are damaging to our brains. I'm not saying that we should all go and live like Amazonian natives, no. But some balance would be nice. At the same time, I will NOT accept being lectured about using less plastic by wealthy cunts who fly private jets.
>>217033468THE FUCKING AUSSIE GUY USES IT AGAINST WHALES IN BOTH MOVIES. ONLY HIS RIB WHICH IS BIGGER THAN THE REST HAVE THE EXPLOSIVE HARPOON.
>>217034387But there's a time-skip in the next film so obviously we will get thatOh right, Farts and Ass flopped, nvm
>>217034288I thought it was a stool sample.
>>217033413What kind of argument is this.>"Well you googled the data that proves me wrong, and therefore you're wrong."
>>217034601LMAO take the L little bro, you didn't know about it before today so it doesn't count
>instantly nosedives and crashes from having a single engine destroyedI remember when that thing was cool.
>>217034609Reality doesn't care who googled what, kid. What matters is you were wrong, and he was right.
>>217034630Nope. If you had to google that's cheating, you can't do that on tests and you can't do that on 4chan, you lose.
>>217034629That is literally what happened to the original.
>>217034646>you can't do that on testsAbout that...
>>217030420Neytiri office lady...
ryan church, one of my favorite concept artist, designed the valkyrie ship
>>217034678Can I get a uhhh Varang getting drunk and putting a lampshade over her head at the office Christmas party
>>217034671Really? It instantly went into a nosedive? That's not what I remember or what your pic shows.
>>217034678based
>>217030376Is this really the secret to happiness, Avatarbros? Just get me a SEA wife?
>>217030960Arr rook same?
>2 billy fags in shambles because stranger things is more relevant than avatar
>>217034708Just look at his smile. He's grinning from ear to ear like an idiot in every scene he shares with Varang, my dude is totally drunk on blue pussy
>>217034678fug
>>217034678this seems to have awoken something in me
There's something really cool about the gunships in Avatar but I can't point my finger at it.
>>217035017I like how they gave them four motors because we have quadcopters in real life now
>>217034779That motherfucker found happiness.
>>217034749Stranger things has more fags in it than Avatar, so it's no wonder you prefer it.
>>217034779So yes, the secret to happiness is just get me a SEA wife?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MVbeoSPqRs4Can we expect some Eywa shit to hit Earth in the sequels?
>>217034678Business suits look so fucking good that even on aliens it's stylish
>>217035115For a fun weekend
Avatar 4 Wainfleet strikes backAvatar 5 Return of Wainfleet Avatar 6 Wainfleet awakensAvatar 7 The Wainfleet clone warsAvatar 8 The Wainfleet menaceAvatar 9 Revenge of Wainfleet.Avatar 10 Rise of Wainfleet
>>217035490>not Avatar 10 Your Seatbelts
Eywa is a lie
>>217034367Good morning sa’ar
>>217030418>>217030420>>217030718>>217030744I have post-Varang depression.
>>217035562>still kinda cutecute
should i get that avatar ubisoft openworld slop
>>217035575Opening cutscene was hilariously bad shit from what I saw, but the exploration looked like a good time. I like that you're a literal giant.
>>217034708>>217035115>>217035277The "secret" to a good SEA wife is to not go for a bar girl or prostitute hanging around tourist areas who are explicitly there to prey on autistic boomer cattle and the new wave of incels with passports.For a little while longer, most places in SEA still have a high percentage of sweet, feminine women who want to be a wife and mother, only give it up for a man they think they have a future with and consider an average white man well above average.The caveat is that if you bring them home, there's a higher chance they're infected with evil Sky People extinction culture. You need to go to SEAdora and stay there.
>>217035115Always has been...
>>217034367The planet doesn't need saving. It and life on it, will be around long after we're gone. We need saving
>>217035606In my experience, the only ones that speak English are the prostitutes
>>217035634
>>217035017>SeawaspYes, very good looking aircraft and pilot>KesteralNoIt looks too much like they just took the Sampson and went, “ok make this bigger and badder and add more guns! But it’s got to look future n shit so give it a sci-fi yellow stripe and what not and uhhhhh gold canopy and 2 main guns and uhhhh make it fucking huge and gimmie a bubble canopy and-“ it’s too much, Samson was more aesthetic.>>217034629>>217034671Makes no sense according to its own lore, if the front right or left engine is hit, then the back left or right engine should instantly stop to give the pilot positive control. Actually fuck that whole last battle until the Mangkwan showed up. Another battle that could have been easily won or avoided if the RDA bothered to send a single fucking recon aircraft in. One guy, one fucking guy to take a peak behind the rocks and say “ok all clear”.The whole fucking RDA fleet doesn’t make sense, your telling me not one of your surface vessels or aircraft have sonar? How are you going to find the whales then radar? I can understand that they use ekranoplan because the whales can’t hear them coming but the fact that seem to use satellite imagery to find whales is ridiculous.Will add more later
>>217035654You're looking in the wrong places. Learning a language is worth getting the future you want, but you don't even have to. And I'm not just talking about the Philippines. There are well-developed, non-filthy, very affordable places in SEA where people speak English, they're just not entire countries or places you hear of all the time.They aren't hard to find, I'm a lazy fuck and I found the perfect one for me. Reading /trv/ archives from 8+ years ago is a good start.
>>217030629>her face when she sees a strong skyman
>>217035670>>217035634You people are fucking retarded
>>217034313Only 120m lower than Way of the Water.2b hype!
great mother <3<3<3
>>217034678
>>217035912Na'vi females look better without the dreads
look at all that bare land. Teach the ash na'vi to farm. Start the agricultural revolution.
>>217036176>Destroy Earth's biosphere>Need to colonize another planet to survive>Immediately start destroying its biosphereCorporate drones are some of the most retarded "people" alive
>>217036155they really do,
>>217035490>Wainefleet clone warsKino
I think Aonung could be a pretty cool character if he had some character development
>>217032633What did he mean by this
>>217036267
>>217036316
>>217036305But he did have some development, he call Lo'ak "brother" and is ride or die for him, and he couldn't stand " The Forest Boy" in TWOW
>>217032965The current cope is that the movie is a flop because it will only be like the 10th highest grossing film of all time instead of top 3
>>217036305He had very clear and straight forward character development. He disliked Lo'ak for being an outsider and half-tried to get him killed, but eventually fought by his side, risked his life to go save him, and backed Lo'ak up against his own clan.>My friend's path is my path
>>217036586This movie literally requires historic level success to justpay back it's costs. That's not cope, that's straight from Jim's mouth.He didn't start doing interviews talking about being ready to walk away from the series before it even premiered for no reason, dude knew which way the winds were blowing.
>>217036682Post the quote then if those are Jim's exact words. We know the film's budget roughly and the box office has already more than doubled that in less than 2 weeks.
>>217030420>>217030688>>217030718>>217030744>>217033103>>217033640>>217034678>>217035562
>>217036305he cute, his skin probably feels like a dolphin's skin. not unlike slippery rubber, if you can imagine
>>217036316Maybe it's just because I'm on team Varang now but Neytiri isn't this cute anymore
Will the Mankwan getting guns lead to an age of "musket wars" among the na'vi? The Omaticaya use them already. And I can see the wind traders buying them to protrct themselves (they already ude mechanical swivel guns after all).https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Musket_Wars
>>217036974Neytiri is still the cutest
Just got to the scene where Lo'ak persuades Neteyam to go after Spider, which ultimately gets him killed. This was his FIFTH potentially lethal fuckup and this was the moment their luck finally ran out. Good job, you retarded little shit, you got your brother killed. You're were right, you'll have to live with this guilt for the rest of your life.
since Jake says the action of the guns is ceramic does that mean it's possible to make kosher guns that use ceramics instead of metal? Not sure if a ceramic barrel is such a good idea though, but if they can make bolt faces it might work?
>>217037066But his brother was older than him, right? It was his brother's decision then.
>>217037308Netty was too nice
>>217037308>>217037308Neteyam's weak spot is being brainwashed into feeling responsible for keeping a close eye on his chronic fuckup of a brother. Jake is partly responsible for his sons being disfunctional, but ultimately it's Lo'ak's constant need to prove himself that always gets them all into trouble until it was one too many and it resulted in a family tragedy
>>217030744>>217030718>>217030688>>217030420oh boy...
>>217032048Haven't seen Ash and Fire yet. I kind of hated the first Avatar when it first came out, for pretty much the reasons you pointed out. At that time it seemed to me all visuals and shallow on substance. There was a time back in 2015 I thought cape-shit might finally die, but it hung on, and the sea of what we call "block-busters" today are nothing like when I was a kid. The finally I got around to watching Way of the Water and I loved it. I didn't care if it was deep or wasn't, I just loved it for what it is. Because brings exactly what you said is missing in all those cape-shit films. Not just visuals, but sincerity in the story it believes in.
>>217035017They're cool. Shame the only ones we see these days are 0.2 seconds before they get a boom boom arrow in the cockpit. Seeing the Toruk throw them around again was sick though
>>217037352>Jake is partly responsible for his sons being disfunctionalWhy? He tries to train them to use fireguns and knowing to be good warriors.
>a1 has the whole thing of avatars taking shitloads of time and money hence hiring jake to replace his bro>a2: yeah we made a backup avatar of quaritch.... and 10 of his dumb goons for some reason as well >>217035193Hope so. Best thing about later sc2 was the cinematics.
>>217037426Here's why
>>217037250I'm sure a Gun Person can chime in with more detail, but an all ceramic firearm isn't practicalShort versions, ceramics properties don't suit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxIiPLVR6NANeteyam theme
>>217037472Yeah and they are in a war. What does she mean by that? Maybe Jake is too hard with his sons but he is teaching them to be soldiers so they can survive.
>>217037502He's neglecting his teenage son's self-esteem issues and constantly lashes out at him instead of trying to resolve his issues by talking to him. He's not training marines, he's dealing with teenagers, and teenagers need another approach entirely, but Jake is not smart enough to adapt his teaching methods to a toxic situation brewing under his roof
>>217037066I never understood how retarded Loak was, because I coud never tell the two boys apart.
>>217037621What? They look completely different. Neteyam is basically genderbent Neytiri and Lo'ak looks a lot like Jake
>>217034678Schoolgirl outfits are purposely designed to embed themselves deeply in the psyche of developing men
surprised at how many people thought Tuk was a boy
>>217037662I guess if you put them next to each other in a still image like that. But during the movie they are just bro and bro broing over each other. I know I'm not the only one who is bro-blind. Maybe I'm racist though.
>>217037399>Seeing the Toruk throw them around again was sick thoughToruk bodyslamming a dragon gunship is peak avatar
>>217037502>What does she mean by that?she's not comfortable with her husband reverting back to army (marine) manners when talking to his sons. This is completely reasonable and sane. It would be much healthier if he had some trusted omaticaya warriors doing the things his sons were doing since he could pull rank and boss them around like soldiers while he acted like a dad to his children
>>217032039It's worse that you can tell underneath the CGI, it's a nigger. Tyrel with his cheeto curls.
>gifts you an IED arrow
>>217038566wouldn't the left pic have to be Neytiri for that to work
>>217031415Correct, we do have to save the trees and the whales.
>>217032048There is absolutely nothing in any recent Marvel movie or other high budget blockbuster like the binding of Isaac parallel in Avatar 3 or the contrast between Lo'ak entering the whale's mouth in 2 vs. the RDA guys drilling into the dead whale's mouth for their amrita. These are not great movies, but they legit have artistic ambitions well beyond your usual Hollywood sloppa blockbuster. It is really remarkable to me just how much hate a set of 6/10 but very good looking and imaginative movies get.
>>217038765>>217038765>>217038765
happy new yearI watched it in the kinema yesterday, I'm still processing it.
>>217032039I'm glad he died
>>217032593Lo'ak and Jake both had stuff immediately going on as soon as their mount died, so they didn't have any time to stop. I did think Lo'ak was going to try and free the big flying guy though.
>>217038783A lot happens in three hours for sure.
