Pathetic. EditionPreviously on /trek/: >>217043320
star trek sex with shran
>I don't like Vulcans
>>217057376this isn't funny and doesn't make sense btw
>Have you ever used the holodeck to generate a fantasy where you deliver a pizza to Counselor Troi and Dr. Crusher?
>Computer, load Dino Nuggies program.>Now give them sentience and the ability to feel pain. >Disengage safety protocols
Commander, tell me about your sexual organs.
>I wouldn't say anything. I would listen to what they had to say about profit. And thats what no one did.
>>217057444My sexual organs? A writer's invention.Complete fabrication.
>>217057444
Stew's ready /trek/ers
>>217057635I swear to logic Neelix if it's more liola root I will throttle you into the beta quadrant.
O'Brien could've had any alien gash he wanted, but he settled for some Japanese broad
>>217057319we really should slightly change the OP one of these days, just to see if it prevents adbots from recognizing the general and shilling here
>>217057665I used a secret ingredient from my space pantry, just for you mr Vulcan!
sneed
Why are you people being so mean about this brave Klingon doctor?
>>217057781Never forghetti
>>217057635>My GERMS TEEHEE
>>217057793
>>217057726>share the load mr Vulcan
>>217057831Are you telling me that the jannies are, in fact, trannies?
>>217057793Does he have to look like tariq nasheed
>>217057665Tuvok hated that fucking root more than anyone else because, logically, he should have been satisfied that it was a good source of vitamins and minerals, so who cares how it tastes?But it tasted so bad it forced him to confront the reality that "Tastes like shit" can be a more important factor that "nutritious."
>>217057854For free posting used to gib perma ban for a while
>>217057878They must've gotten a pay raise
>>2170578940 x 0 is still 0
>>217057725We had a totally fucked format thread a week or two ago and it didn't make a difference at all sadly
>>217057949grim
*teleports bullet behind you*psssh...nothin personnel...Anon...
>>217057978terrible episode
>>217057725Parry+ is not actually advertising Star Trek: Academy here. Or Disco or Lower Decks. It's just a funny little joke when folks pretend to do PR for NuTrek.
>>217057997this. it's not real shilling it's disturbing performance art.
>>217057635Invisible stew's looking good Neel!
>>217057991It would've been fine if it wasn't about Ezri. The concept of a Vulcan using logic to justify serial killing is extremely fucking fascinating, could've made for a real effective whodunit since who would've expected the Vulcan? But sadly the show is anchored with Ezri.
>>217058064>the showthe *episodeI mean both are true
>>217057726>the secret ingredient is love
>>217058156And a pinch of Kes' crack.
>>217057635no thanks!
>>217058064data's painting is making me dizzy
>>217057766I laughed out loud at this
>>217057894>>217057903Don't bring this up at the quarterly meeting
got my ________ and my _____ _____
>>217058512got my WARCRIMES and my JAMBALAYA SAUTEING
what happens if a normie snorts a bunch of ketracel white?
>>217058707presumably nothing, as it's a base enzyme that the jemhadar genome lacks, or something similar
>>217058707
>>217058741jej
>>217057635How did Star Trek get away with having a Jar Jar character without having him be universally hated?
>>217058974Jar Jar sounded like a black stereotype.
>>217058974>>217059037Also Neelix was very, very hated.
>>217059037>>217059052...I didn't need to see that.
>>217059066Too bad.
"Neelix bad" is about on the level of "Captain Kirk was a dumb chad who punched aliens and fucked green women" as a Star Trek comment. Not quite but close.
>>217059241"Neelix bad" is something anyone can tell just by looking at him
ringing in the new year with one of the classics.hope you have a great night, frens
>>217059315clean up those cobwebs man, jesus
>>217059315Good lord, looks like where Hard Time O'Brien would live
>>217059315are those piss bottles?
>>217059526yes
>>217059315And how can man die betterThan facing fearful odds,For the ashes of his fathers,And the temples of his Gods
Neelix is great.You are a gay and probably black poofter if you disagree.
>>217060038
>>217059315
>>217057793>SOULLESS>>217057843>SOUL
>>217058026Or perhaps they're genuine fans. People can like a TV show for a different reason than you do, you know. You don't speak for anyone but yourself.
FMK seven of 9, jadzia, and troiFUCK Jadzia, Marry Seven, and kill Troi
>>217062342Simping over mid women in sci-fi makeup again, are you? Gee, that's not sad or pathetic in any way. Even worse, they're all way out of your league.
>>217058026you speak for me and everyone in this thread, sans that one guy
>>217062579You are in no position to opine about speaking for people in this thread, only yourself, and even that is a stretch.
>>217058026You also speak for me.
>>2170579974chan is the last place P+ would advertise because they’re trying to shed the label that Star Trek is for socially inept white men. That was never the case but the stench lingered throughout pop culture.
>>217062668>Space for EveryoneAnother lie. It's all lies.
>>217063207Another mid woman, and this time, not even the excuse of being in sci-fi makeup. Plus, the actress is a raging leftie.
>>217058026damn I couldn't have said it better myself. It looks like you also speak for me.
>>217063207
>>217062514What's the problem with starting a dialogue? This is 4chan after all.
>>217063371>This is 4chan after all.There's a different rhythm to /trek/ because of the rituals.
>>217059315Asking myself if Picard or Kirk would approve of my living situation has motivated me to clean up my house and my life. This weekend I’m going to steel myself to scrub y bathroom spotless.
>>217063402Rituals of all sorts.
>>217063430One ritual gets posted and that triggers a ritual chain.
Fuck this gay earth.
>>217063478The text is supposed to be "ensign Pretty".ritual rejected.
>>217063503Yup, that's a "pretty" big fail alright!
>>217063519
>>217063478I love bobs so much. I also like when Romulans have a bob with vampire bangs. We're living in the '20s again. Flappers should make a comeback.
>>2170635195D ritual witnessed.
>>217063581>I love bobs so much
>>217058026I can safely say this does speak for the overwhelming majority of /trek/
Now less than two weeks until our Impulse Drives us to watch the debut of the new series Star Trek: Starfleet Academy.
Enough of this gay shit.
Is Tuvok anyone’s favorite character?
>>217064184No.
>>217063408I'm sure your mom will be thrilled.
>>217063581>>217064099>Nightmare alternate fiction>>Nightmare reality
>>217064184Tuvok is my favorite Vulcan.
>>217062579>>217062649>>217063362>>217063998Marching in lockstep, just like the good lefties you are... or a Borg hive-mind.
>>217064099they really gonna do it, arnen't they?!
>>217064099Warp me!
>>217064257Perhaps you'd prefer reddit or bluecry :^)
>>217064184No. For most folks, he's their second favourite VOY Vulcan.
>>217064099Is that Robert Picardo?
>>217064099goosebumps
>>217064099Let's fly!
>>217064099you know it!
In Trek News, our favorite gal Tawny Newsome to testify against Big Mike McMahan in court.Court martial episode!!!
>>217064099I feel included and seen.
>>217064320You should be embarrassed you even suggested that. BlueCry is the definition of hive mind, and Plebbit is close behind. I'm amazed you're actually celebrating your mindless conformity.
>>217064099These plucky young cadets are ready to take the world by....song?*record scratch*
>>217064396Another one of your schizo delusions. Don't you ever get tired of humiliating yourself?
>>217064341It sure is! The Voyager EMH is uploading to the 32nd Century on SFA.
>>217057635>how do we make cookware look futuristic or alien?>lets put the handle directly over the heat
>>217064447what's a record?
>>217064341Yes! Trek fans will recognise him from his appearances in LOW and PRO!
>>217064464Big day ahead of you, Mike.
>>217059315those bottles are filled with piss, arent they?
>>217064499Thought provoking
>>217064447Why is it that Nu-Trek has so much musical bullshit in it? And how did 1 Unappreciated Man in the /trek/ general manage to make an entire opera that puts the entirety of Nu-Trek to shame?
>>217064551When Michael Burnham is talking you WILL sit DOWN and LISTEN
>>217064499dynamic togetherness
>>217064575t. unappreciated anon
Star Trek has been a major platform for diversity since its debut in 1966. The franchise is built on the philosophy of "Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations" (IDIC), which posits that the beauty of the universe lies in its varied life forms and ideas.
>>217064575well it's simple you see opera anon actually likes Star Trek
>>217064472Just don't ask why a hologram who's existed for hundreds of years would suddenly decide to look 72, or why this would make him appear "more human", or why looking perpetually 72 wouldn't be weirder than looking perpetually somewhere around 40, or what'll happen if he keeps the ageing going and eventually hits Admiral McCoy age, or why he suddenly doesn't want to be seen as a hologram, or why the people around him wouldn't already know this famous hologram was a hologram, or why they couldn't have recast the part with a younger actor, or why they couldn't have given Picardo another role, or why they couldn't have created a show that didn't lean so heavily on memberberries and avoided the issue of having an actor return to the role of an ageless character after having significantly aged. Don't ask anything! Just get excited for next slop and consume next slop.
>>217064575Tumblr makes everything now
>>217064711In Star Trek, we don't fear the Blackness of Space. We celebrate it.
>>217064816In space, no-one can hear you steal
>>217064759Are you sincerely asking? Because that is a v autistic complaint. Obviously, EMH has to look older because Robert Picard is now older. Maybe you just have to think of a better head-canon excuse though if you're going to have a Sonic's-blue-arms style temper tantrum about it.
>>217064759"SFX Magazine clarified that in Star Trek: Starfleet Academy, the EMH introduced a subroutine that allowed him to age."
>>217064871>>217064886No, I'm not asking. I'm switching my brain off.
>>217064759Why wouldn't he want to experiment with looking older?
>>217064929See >>217064921
>>217064929Why does Microsoft Windows keep getting worse after 30 years? Computers just be like that.
>>217064886SFX Magazine put their best muckraking gumshoe reporter on the story to get that scoop
>>217064871>>217064886>>217064048
>>217064447Trekkies are tanned, rested and ready for New Trek.
>>217058707nothing wrong on a friday night
>>217064507Literal schizo. Maybe you're confusing him with former NYPD officer Michael McMahon. Even AI can do better than that. No wonder you're unemployed.
>>217064981Microsoft has never produced quality software. Their business model is literally based on writing a whole lot of crappy code in a big hurry. And these days, they admit 30% of their code is written by AI. Long past time to switch.
>>217065196>they admit 30% of their code is written by AI.30% of /trek/ is written by AI.
>>217065122In Trek News, looks like Noell Wells is taking the stand! Better watch out, Mike! It's the measure of a man!
>>217064575TOS had a couple of musical numbers early on because every show did back then. It made sense because the cast were all trained singers. But the reason NuTrek is so fond of this is because they're desperate for a song to go viral on TikTok like Wednesday and Stranger Things.
>>217065122They're thinking of the Vince McMahon allegations. But getting confused because Vic Mackey is a similar name. And that's a fictional character played by the actor Michael Chiklis. Who plays TV cops a lot. So, they've jumbled all that up into Michael McMahon on trial
just read that Roxann Dawson is a hardcore catholic conservative republican and all the other trek casts hate her because they're so left-wingkekI'd wager that's why everyone else has been invited back to do some NuTrek shit except her
>>217065474I thought for sure she'd at least directed a DISCO 'sode. But no. Looks like she's too busy directing other shows to need that ex-Trek favouritism scraps like that hack Jonathan Frakes.
>>217065474You don't get invited back until you're on record bashing Trump in an interview or social media. The "Star Trek Family" is conditional like that.
>>217065610what's this?don't tell me chakotay is of the same flavour? who knew the maquis were such chuds
What will be Kurtzman's legacy ?
>>217065413DISCO and SNW had literal Tony Award level stars. What are you on about?
>>217065758The appellation "The Man Who Saved Star Trek".
It's so embarrassing.
>>217065758Saving the franchise from ENT
>>217057997DS9 waa awful.
>>217065758super weapons
>Prickard at 92% in 2022 (this was even before S3 aired which everyone sucks off)lol what a joke
>>217065956flaky skrreean hands typed this post
>>217065899Damn I can't believe every nuTrek show has been BETTER than the original series!
>>217065899Picard only ranks higher than TOS-DS9 because they didn't have next day episodic reviews back then. This was the state of television journalism in 1987. And many critics are the type to s*yface at every callback and memberberry.
>>217066010
>>217066010Incredible! Looks like Old Trek just Sucks!
>>217065899gamechanger
>>217066010I always thought TOS was better. But you can't argue with scientific proof
>>217066095this image is making me queasy.
>>217066034>They didn't have next day episodic reviews back then. They just didn't okay!Of course they did. The deadlines for daily newspapers were late at night, and reviewers would be at their desk typing away with the tv on. In addition, networks would have early screenings of episodes so papers and magazine could prepare copy before a show aired.Why do you keep coming up with these imaginary tales?
>>217066152I just focus on how all those nutrek toys didn't even sell on clearance.
You need to come to terms with this.
>>217066010That is an accurate assessment. Old Trek had a handful of good episodes for every hundred episodes of dross. New Trek is smaller but better per season. Less raw Trek ore, more refined Trek gold.
>>217065354Source? Mine is https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/29/satya-nadella-says-as-much-as-30percent-of-microsoft-code-is-written-by-ai.html
>>217066276>more refined Trek goldhttps://youtu.be/S6QdY6YDfj0?si=HIHoqj8qTwRbsB1g&t=22
>>217065413>nuTrek wants songs to go viral on TikTokSo, they're in touch with modern times, and understand marketing? Is there something wrong with that? TOS wasn't pure, you know. They hyped their show to appeal to women.
>>217066314
>raw Trek oreATTENTION BAJORAN WORKERS, GET BACK TO YOUR URIDIUM!!!!
>>217066376GUL DU KAT DID NOTHING WRONG!!
>>217066195The Ilia socks didn't sell either.
I can't wait for Kurtzman to squat over my face and spray his molten gold all over me again!
>>217066376>>217066391CARDASSIA!CARDASSIA!CARDASSIAAAAAAAAAA
>>217066323>whataboutismrape thumb isn't sending his best
>>217066431No matter how many times you're wrong, you just keep bleating the same slander. Pre-generative-AI bots have more self-awareness than you.
>>217066431Are the rumors true? Did Mike McMahan rape Noell Wells in the hot sweltering summer of '22?
Avatar: The Way of Water (2022)Production budget: $350M–$460M Worldwide box office gross: $2.343B ROI (range because budget is a range):If $350M budget:Gross ÷ Budget = 6.69×ROI = 5.694 569.4%If $460M budget:Gross ÷ Budget = 5.09×ROI = 4.093 409.3%Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982)Two commonly cited budget figures:Option A (Box Office Mojo budget)Budget: $11.2M Worldwide gross: $97M Gross ÷ Budget = 8.66×ROI = 7.661 766.1%Option B (Wikipedia budget)Budget: $12M Worldwide gross: $97M Gross ÷ Budget = 8.08×ROI = 7.083 708.3%
>>217066323If you can't tell what's wrong with that then you shouldn't be here.>>217066458He's right you know.
>>217066376
>>217066478
>>217066186Google has an archive of old newspapers. And I just searched it. Curious if they actually did have daily TV reviews. Or if you just made that up. And I don't think they did. Searching: 'Star Trek'. Filtered to pre-1970. It's a lot of like TV guide listings. What time it's on. A few articles about the show. Season renewals. Cancelation. Some cast interviews. Letters to the editor from fans and haters. Ads for Star Trek merch. But, there are no daily episode-by-episode reviews that I can find.
>>217066477Obviously not. Do you even have a source for that rumor? Your seething schizo imagination doesn't count.
>>217066564You're full of shit!! New Trek is better than ANY of that crummy Old Trek!! AND YES I AM TRANS GOD DAMNIT AND I AM PROUD
>>217066564Newspapers?! Try "TV Guide" magazine. Freaking zoomers.
>>217066564What periodical is this scriptum from, Sir?
>>217066479You don't think the network should have hyped Star Trek based on how attractive Nimoy and Shatner were to women? Do you even market? There is nothing noble nor redeeming about failure.
>>217066515An entire season of Star Trek Voyager cost less than a single episode of Stranger Things S5.Assuming one episode of Voyager cost $2 million in today’s dollars. A single episode of Stranger Things S5 reportedly ran $50-$60 million bucks. Personally I miss longer seasons with less expensive episodes.edit - as a reference, each episode of Strange New Worlds reportedly costs $7-$8 million.
>>217066676Where does all that money go?
>>217066713I'd rather watch a show about Cadet BPD.
>>217066657That one is from: The Pittsburgh Press 3 Mar 1968.This one is: The Day 5 May 1967, New London Conn.
I had three seizures on New Year's Eve in three hours and spent the night in the hospital. Any Star Trek episodes for adult-onset epilepsy?
>>217066713"Big Tawny!"
>>217066746her hips are shapely and fertile
>>217066747Shout out to da black n' yellow.
>>217066749
>>217066749Half a LifeRelicsToo Short a Season
>>217066749Hi Bash! I found your mum. Another The Pittsburgh Press 3 Mar 1968
>>217066801Don't want any Scottish viewers, then.
>>217066801Can I watch that on Keppra?
>>217066699Fuck if I know. Stranger Things and Wednesday are CW shows that cost 10x the average CW show
>>217066820If that was my mom you would be able to tell they are bipolar from just reading the text.
>>217066861pure unadulterated zest
>>217066801
>>217066801It's a bit silly for Scots to be allowed a dress uniform cultural variation. Because if the get one. Surely every other culture on Earth gets one too. And if everyone is wearing different uniforms. The they are no longer uniforms.
>>217066749Wow. Better take care of those ass-worms before they kill you completely. I say this because I care about you deeply and want you to get better.
>>217066920Careful. Sounds like you're doing that thinking I warned you about.
>>217066564I think back then they had previews for new seasons and general "best of/worst of" for the year. I'd be surprised if they were thorough enough for individual reviews for every episode. That didn't really start until the new millennium with the internet.
>>217066920>hurr durr words must only mean one thing
>>217066963>hurr durr the world began the year i was born>yet i pretend to know everything about itdo zoomers really
Code of Honor was always voted one of the worst episodes of TNG in the old Starlog magazines, but no one said it was racist until around 2011 when SJWism started taking over.
>>217066920Actually, irl uniforms are much, much more varied than star trek ones.
>>217066564The Google newspaper archive is primarily small town papers, unlikely to has a dedicated media reporter, late date line for late breaking stories or advanced screenings.You can look at big city papers, especially their What to Watch Tonight column or equivalent, or as an anon mentioned TV Guide. Front of the magazine section.
>>217067022I have been to a Japanese high school before and they really are not.
>>217066920Every culture on Earth? Speciesist much? Ensign Ro and Lt. Worf aren't from Earth, yet they were allowed uniform variations, and not even dress uniforms—as in the uniforms they wore during working hours. Try watching Star Trek more.
>>217067124YOU try watching MORE. Because Ro was NOT allowed. Riker bullied her about it
>>217067105That's not even a valid comparison. School uniforms vs. military uniforms? And you pick the most conformist culture on the entire planet? Talk about lying by omission.
Nutrek is gay.
>>217067179Who the fuck are you Commadore Matthew Perry?
One last job.
>>217057376>hating on ElvesNGMI
>>217062496can you not?
>>217067177Uh, what? Here is the literal scene where Picard approved Ro's nonstandard work uniform. Now present your evidence that Riker bullied her about it.
>>217067449Hey, you learned to make a webm that isn't all compressed looking, nice work
>>217067465>praising the troongo talk to Worf I'm so fucking serious
>>217067449She literally only made a big deal about it then because Riker bullied her earlier
>>217067411>lazy shill complaining about having to shit up two threads instead of just oneThat's what they pay you for. Chop chop.
>>217067465Deflection AND moving the goalposts. That's almost an accomplishment. Now present your evidence that Riker bullied Ro about her nonstandard work uniform. And feel free to supply an upgraded clip of the same scene. Spoiler alert: you won't, because you can't.
(a young woman in red uniform beams in, wearing a sullen expression and a fancy earring)RO: Ensign Ro Laren reporting as ordered, Commander.RIKER: You will follow Starfleet uniform code aboard this ship, Ensign.(she removes the earring)
>>217067481It was really more of a recognition that all of his other webms are shitWebm related is still the GOAT in terms of formatting and clarity
>>217067495>Spoiler alert: you won't, because you can'tNo, I won't because I'm not the person you were arguing with you mongoloid
>>217067495NTA, but are we going into the weeds to avoid acknowledging that the new show just alienated any potential Scottish viewers?
>>217067565They already ruined this version of Scotty by casting a guy who is WAY too young when Scotty is meant to be older than everyone on the Enterprise but McCoy really
>>217067597It's JJ tier casting where everyone is the same age
>>217067506
>>217067506>no videonice fanfic, ensign
Over time you'll start to notice that Riker is an asshole to anyone outside of the senior staff clique, or if it's a woman he DOESN'T want to fuck
>>217067506Obviously overridden by Picard's order. Now supply a nice webm of the scene.>>217067527Then make better versions of any webm I post. Spoiler alert: you won't, because you can't.>>217067565What about >>217066801 is offensive? I'm not Scottish, so maybe I missed it.
Funny how Starfleet Command just lets this faggot cocksucker run all over the place
>>217067465>>217067527And why exactly do you deserve good things? We both know you'll just find a threadbare excuse to seethe about it... you know, like you have already.
>>217067787Who are you even talking about? And does whoever you're talking about report directly to Starfleet Command, or is there another officer interposing between them? Do you even understand the chain of command?
>>217067736>hurr durr I'm an asshole that cowers before authority and am only nice to women I want to fuck>then I project this onto RikerI'd rather not know so much about you, anon.
>hurr durr>Grok?>spoiler alert:I should make a new B I N G O card with his catchphrases
>>217067760>What about >>217066801 is offensive?It's self-evident, but I'll humour you. Imagine instead of a guy wearing some clown-car version of a Scottish uniform it's a guy wearing an exaggerated, ugly-looking yarmulke, and the people around him are laughing and sneering at him, and we're meant to empathise with them, i.e. agree that he looks retarded. Now, are you going to(a) pretend that jews wouldn't find that offensive(b) deflect(c) insult me(d) ignore this post entirely(e) do some combination of these thingsor(f) surprise me?
>>217067927well, that's different.
Is it worth watching ALL of the original series before NG? Or is there like a recommended list of "best of" episodes for the OG
>>217067905Of course the 'hurr durr' homo is also the bingo bitch
>>217067939There will BE no skips.
>>217067939can you "what should I skip" fags please drink bleach already?
>>217067938So (b) deflect. Since (you claim) it's not self-evident to you, I had to use an analogy. But whatever. Trust me: any Scots who might have watched this will be pissed. (And likely pissed in another way too, but that's by the by.)
It's time.
>>217067939Dont be a fag and watch the whole thing. I'm on my first watch and ever episode offers something. And stop treating shows as some project to complete. The story is told every episode, so give every episode you attention.
>>217067905Oh, you want to start up the bingo cards again, do you? I'm ready. Are you?
>>217067951>>217068043you won't do shit pussy
>>217067449SECKS WITH RO LAREN
>>217067927Really? Because it looks awfully similar to Scotty's dress uniform in TOS.
>>217068072Gauntlet thrown. Remember, this was your idea.
lol
You can tell when it's malfunctioning when it gets SNW and SFA confused
>>217068132You salute the kilt, not the man.
>>217064871>that is a v autistic complaint.you're in a star trek thread
>>217067939107111112114116119122125126201203204206208215302
>>217068175Non sequitur. The discussion >>217067927 was about whether the Scottish dress uniform depicted in >>217066801 was offensive.
>>217065899now compare the number of ratings
>>217067939TOS was the Mod sexy adventures of the youngest Starfleet Captain ever. TNG is about Captain Creepy Old Guy who finds an excuse to have a tween boy on the Bridge of his starship, consisting mostly of Sociology lectures on why Western Capitalism sucks.Watch TOS. Toss TNG.
>>217068235Your comparison is invalid. Riker fulfilled the Kirk role for TNG, and Picard fulfilled the Spock role. Literally everyone knows this.
Now THIS is carpetry.
>>217067939watch it all in release order, including the movies. (Except for TOS watch it in production order because the network aired episodes out of order)
Anyway, he's definitely going to try to steal the thread so prepare yourself.
>>217068489i'm prepared for you and him to circlejerk each other for the rest of the day no matter what happens until some blessed janny puts you out of your misery or you pass out whichever comes first
ATTENTION BINGO WORKERS
trek star
Ezri and Jadzia still got WORFED
Lower Decks is less boring and more fun to watch than Enterprise.
>>217069113Sure, if you're 9.
>>217069126Actually, Beverly says it's closer to 12.
>>217069113Lower Decks are the scrappy underdogs of the Trek franchise.
>>217069147Scrappy underdogs? More like crappy bum-durr-dregs.
Let's try againnew>>217069238>>217069238>>217069238