The Beautiful People EditionPreviously >>217370390
star trek sex with shran
reminder that if you see someone who sounds like a smug redditor who huffs his own farts posting bait, you probably shouldn't respond and should instead hide those posts
Ayo where are all the Bajoran women at?
>>217380918butt vidya
What are some actual good sci-fi cartoons? All the ones I know of like Cowboy Bebop and Outlaw Star and shit are anime. Any good Western sci-fi animation or is it all Biker Mice From Mars?
Rank these Klingons Worf, Gowron, Kor, Lursa, Martok, Kurn, Betor AlexanderBest Klingon? Worst Klingon?
>>217381079Gowron was cool until DS9 made him into a retard
In Awards, the scrappy underdogs of Star Trek: Section 31 are up for the prestigious NAACP Image Award.
>>217381079Worf is basically klingon jesus born againGowron's a politician but he puts his money where his mouth isKor is drukLursa is for childbearingMartok a bestKurn is koolBetor is for SEXAlexander is GOOD in ds9martok a bestworst klingon is uh, that one that died offscreen on the freighter in heart of glory
>>217381069Heavy Metal...
>>217381139lmaoHow shallow is that bucket of nominees?
>>217381069>CAAAAANNN YOU TAKE ME HIIIGHER>TOOOO A PLACE WHERE BLIIIND MEEN SHEEE
>>217381152b r u h >>217381015just for you
>>217381069Dunno if you've heard about this niche show called Rick and Morty. It's hilarious and super smart scifi
>>217381148I always liked Alexander, his impetuous anger over Worf abandoning him was always justified and for how young he is he's an ok kid actor. I can only imagine getting a kid to actually put alien makeup on to be a nightmare.
>>217381069What kind of Sci-Fi are you looking for? Aeon Flux is great, but more philosophical set in a Sci-Fi world
>>217381174I read that post as sarcastic. Did you not?
>>217381187DS9 Alexander is pretty good. TNG Alexander is annoying even if the premise of the character does have interesting angles at least for Worf.The TNG ep where Alexander and Lwaxana team up is maybe the most annoying star trek episode of all time.
ohyou'll watch it all
>>217381225>TNG Alexander is annoyingI disagree. in TNG it shows him being a good kid despite Worf being a terrible parent.
>>217381152Many talented creators and performers are up for the Image Award:https://www.bet.com/naacp-image-awards/nomineesAnd New Trek has done quite well in the past. Many nominations. IDIC is a virtue.
>>217381069Can't think of any non-Jap ones. Was going to mention Ulysses, which I watched as a kid (and maybe doesn't hold up - I've no idea), but that's part-Jap.
i got another email from CEO Brian Volk-Weiss of Nacelle Company
>>217381246He's not terrible in every episode, but go rewatch Cost of Living and tell me he isn't annoying.A character can be annoying and still serve a good narrative purpose too by the way. Doesn't mean he'll be anybodys favorite character
>>217381281
>>217381256I already got 4 (You)s on a post. Do better.
>>217381281and he confirmed they are sending out replacements to people who got the original bad head figures free of charge.
>>217381335ACK turned out to be kino though
>>217381115That didn't really happen till the last season, and Gowron still got treated better than Dukat
>>217381015Post the bannerRemind them
>>217380917ds9 is nu trek
>>217381510Ds9 is old and good though
in order to watch nutrek you have to shave your fecal matter,.
>>217381069scavenger's reign
Lura Thok has aura
>>217381583she's on point.
>>217381069I wanna say Mighty Max.
which ep is closest to blair witch project (1999)?
Our girl's review of Star Trek: Starfleet Academy S01E02 is up:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=as4Q3dipSwEGood analysis as usual. Overall thumbs up and much more positive than her review of E01. Has issues with the romance B story, but admits that's a her thing.
>>217381668that one Enterprise episode where there's a ghost in the woods
>>217381307>>217381281yeah but they both look like shit
I love how he only does this because *five years ago* /trek/ told him to take his Rick & Morty garbage elsewhere
>>217381668The Haunting of Deck Twelve
Academy is good and I realized I dont like this community.I grew up watching Voyager with my single father. We didn't do much together but we watched Star Trek.As a young adult I really got into it. I've watched every series and movie multiple times. I own them all on ITunes and some Blu-ray. Not every episode or movie is good of course, but I love Star Trek. Ive even been to the convention in Las Vegas.I saw all the posts made here leading up to Academy wanting to say how its not for them or how people were going to hate it or how they hate all new Trek.And it makes me sad that internet is such a miserable place. I mean scroll down a bit and you'll see the longest post over about someone who appears personally victimized by a show. Lol.But as is everything these days. So full of decisive negativity. As bid this community a fairwell and mute it I just hope you all find happiness and hope for the future. Maybe a hope you'll find the Star Trek y'all looking for.
>>217381849We watch good star trek and have fun every night though?
>>217381198oh you're the loser samefagging
>>217381861its copypasta spam
>>217381849Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
>>217381849Theres no reason to give these new shows a chance. They are made by the same people as the last 3 terrible trek shows. Do they even deserve another chance? How many chances do they deserve?People shitting on them dramatically here are just having fun coping with the current dire state of one of the most noble televisions series of all time. Negativity can be used in a positive way, particularly in an appropriate place for it like 4chan
>>217381225>DS9 Alexander is pretty good. In what fucking world other than being an epic contrarianMuch like everything with Worf they completely things TNG established, have him do something completely nonsensical for his character and turn him into literally a retarded clown in the process
>>217381849He's literally making up stories now probably using chatgpt lol
>>217381945Alexander was like 5 years old in TNG. Did you have the same personality at 5 as you did at 18? What do you think Klingon puberty would have done to him? There is more than enough space for ds9 alexander to make narrative sense. And his clumsy semi klingon nature also helps broaden the personality types of on screen Klingon characters too. It's not amazing stuff but it aint bad
>>217381997youre right. alexander is fine in DS9. the problem is worf settling for jadiza and then installing the coward martok as chancellor.
>>217382021this
>>217381596Bonus: sometimes the voice actors are trek people.
>>217381945>>217381997I was gonna say, it makes total sense in the context of him being an apex cringe teen/young adult in their rebellious phase.
A fun Easter Egg in SFA episode 2.
poor lady
"Almond Basket? I love it!"
>>217382021Most of the things they get Worf to do in DS9 are RETARDED. "the most important thing to me is my family's honor" Oh wait lol nvm. Euthanize your brother because you destroyed the house of Mohg's honor again?? yup yup. Also Worf's hesitation over marriage should have been because of K'Ehleyr related trauma not some bullshit made up OC story that was never a consideration for Worf's backstory in the first place.
Here's your 100% betazoid girl
>>217381919>>217381932>>217381954>>217381861>replying to a literal reddit post
>>217382207you think anyone involved knows what a beetlezord is???
>>217382143Counterpoint: almond basket is cute
>>217382485"Don't Believe Her Lies"
Anybody who likes Star Trek: ACK deserves to roast in THE BOX.
i hate this placemy adversaries are stupid but my compatriots are even dumber
oh my god he's taking bluesky screenshots nowwhat did we do to deserve this punishment?
ITT: sour grapes over not having a CBS All Access accountBoth the premier and the Ready Room talk were fantastic, can't wait for episode 2 to drop
>>217381484>your pov as a cheeseburger moments before your demise
>tfw your eyes are too blue for Betazed I want to be a Klingon.
1300 views10 million dollars
Also what the FUCK is happening? Pretend I am a newfag and explain it to me.
>>217382960It's your old Discord buddies.
>>217382960/pol/
>>217382950the cope so far is that everyone is watching it on paramount+ because they wanted to see both episodes
I support SA.
>raping the IP>disregarding consent of the fansYep it's SA
>>217382960you know how there are a bunch of corrupt or inept admirals?
>>217382905>I want to be a KlingonQap'la means "seize the day" not "seize every day"
>>217382999"I could watch that science fiction adventure in HD on my 48 inch wall tv, on the streaming service I pay for, but I think I'll watch it in low def on an app on my phone instead."Sure. That happens.
>retarded boomer doesn't know everyone can watch youtube on their tv
BTW the Grief Puppeteers are whinging that SFA glamourizes criminals. So, guess Kirk has to go back to Rura Penthe now.
Did someone say puppets?
>>217383295>Grief PuppeteersWhat does this mean and why was it capitalized?
>>217383383based rygel posterfucking love that lil guy
How do you make a Jem'hadar klingon hybrid? Jem'hadar mature in 3 days from clone tubes and subsist only on ketracel white after leaving the tube and will die without having a supply and die of old age at like 15. Also no mention that they are progenitor seeded like human/romulan/klingons.The Duras sisters?Bear in mind that
Again, please realize that for better or worse, they aren't trying to appeal to old school Trek fans. They use the name and IP to try and retain a portion of the base, stand out via marketing, and then do everything to try and get the larger young streaming viewing audience of today by any means necessary. They are percieved to be more valuable of an audience by the studios. You can say that is a good or bad thing, I don't care, but people need to realize that is what the situation is.Most people watch shows in the background while they are on their phone. Most Americans want characters in their shows speaking at a middle school english level that they themselves are stuck at. That is just more relatable to them. Did you really think they would want 'Shakspearean dialogue' in their tv show? Studios want these eyeballs because that is how they get money. Simple as.People talk about the explosion of nerd culture, but really what happened is that nerd culture eventually courted the mainstream at the expense of the nerds. It is just more profitable. If you cared about what the 'identity' of these shows used to be, you were essentially labeled an autistic. Entertainment media is mostly an aesthetic now. It isn't about enjoying the show itself, but about how it looks on you and it allowing you to be a part of some ''''community''''...
>>217383406post rygels
why did they put it on youtube if the views dont matter? why dont any of the other streams put their premiers on youtube?why did shari redstone have to sell to skydance at a massive discount?
>>217383479you dont understand, losing is winning
>>217383441if only i had more to give, i think i have a few saved>>217383479it was a marketing ploy, basically a free samplebut it went the way of nu-meat, nobody wants plant based pretend tendies which cost more and are unhealthy and nobody wants pretend trek which wears the uniforms but has no real trek content
>>217383479for promo. most of the people who i know watched it just watched it on paramount anyways.
>>217383428Hollywood has been running itself out of business with this mindset, chasing marketing demographics and short-term winfalls while ignoring niche fanbases and long-term returns.Everything goes for the zoomer audience.Everything tries to create a billion dollar blockbuster.It's as if Hollywood cannot see the value in a very-willing-to-spend niche audience that has sustained an IP through fire and brimstone for 60 years. No, it has to have more than that for... reasons.Sure, it could just try to create a quality product within that IP that respects it which might appeal to long-term fans and actually attract new viewers through a reputation for, you know, QUALITY. But nah, let's just chase a bunch of fans who will never like Star Trek instead and try to change it into lowest-common-denominator slop.These people are not good businessmen and the state of Hollywood and its seemingly unstoppable slide into enshittification is the result.
>>217383548>nobody wants pretend trek which wears the uniforms but has no real trek content first negative take i've seen that I agree with. The whole doomsday vibe really doesnt fit star trek
>>217383559I wish we could have one show that isn't just a 12-hour long movie with so much plot its exhausting. Academy feels like it wants to be a cinematic masterpiece but instead you get choppy dialogue and a flashbang of lens flare anytime there's a window in the scene. Reminds me of the overblown lighting bit in Crisis Point
>>217383548>>217383558so why is it apple and netflix and hulu and amazon dont want to promote their new shows? why is it only paramount who has to give their premium content away for free?
>>217383641netflix is the leader in the market right now so they dont have to botherapple/hulu/amazon all have massive corpos backing themparamount+ is the only one standing out in the cold without backing and relying more on their subscriptions than any of the rest
>>217383641Netflix and hulu are actively losing too much money to give anything away for free. Disney and Warner bros put out episodes of stuff on youtube all the time.
>>217383559>short-term winfallsThat is all the current executives care about. Other executives may be in charge in the long term. They want to boost their own statures, not someone else's.>Everything tries to create a billion dollar blockbuster.Have you heard people talk about movies in theaters? They say that if it isn't the next blockbuster that everyone just needs to see to be a part of the zeitgeist, they can just wait until streaming. Even people here say that. The numbers back it all up too. How do you think these studios will respond?>Use lower budgetsPeople have these mythical ideas of how much it costs to make a movie. There is a reason the small budget indies are starting to shoot in Hungary now. People will support all these writer, actor, crew strikes online (which I am not necessarily opposed to), and then say 'why can't these companies keep their budget under control?'
>>217383774>we can't have lower budgets because writers want money
>>217383774Let's not pretend the light grips being unionized is the reason Hollywood spends 10 million dollars an episode on something as shitty as Starfleet Academy. You and I both know where that budget is going and none of it is going to the right place. It's largely going into things like the CGI budget, into paying the two A-list writers they hired to recite D-list written trash, and into the pockets of the Executive Producers. A light grip trying to make 60,000 bucks a year to keep the lights on in Commiefornia isn't breaking their bank, pal.I don't know why you would try and let these incompetent retards off the hook for such an egregious misappropriation of funds.Hire good writers. They're not even fucking expensive necessarily. Hell, hire ONE well-tenured, experienced Star Trek writer and let him pick your young talent on merit, and then let him herd them into writing Star Trek properly the same way the young TNG writers were guided by veterans and yes, even the Roddenberry rules.Doing this one simple fucking thing instead of making Kurtzman himself co-showrunner is how you fix a lot of Star Trek's problems.
>>217383872into paying two A-list actors, rather*
>>217383811It isn't writers specifically. Everyone wants their piece of the pie. It all adds up very quickly.People wonder how Corbet and Fastvoid make movies for so cheap (Hint: they shoot in Hungary). They didn't personally earn any money on the Brutalist either.Sean Baker tried to screw his crew on health insurance items, and was livid when he got forced into it. These indie autuers who manage to keep costs down are going to great lengths to avoid paying anybody.
>>217383872Kurtzman writing the first episode of academy says it all. >hire ONE well-tenured, experienced Star Trek writer and let him pick your young talent on meritstart hiring the fanfic writers again. At least they know what star trek is.The budget almost always goes to the actors and the vfx companies that they overwork and rush to finish. Actors get paid WAY too much and 90% of their cut goes to their agents anyways. Maybe we need a more humble hollywood again
They are hiring young diverse writers because that is the demographic they want to attract. The problem is none of these people actually watch Star Trek, they just have this IDEA of what Star Trek should be because they watched a youtube vid on Leonard Nimoy once.
>>217383872giamatti is B list and hunter is C.
>>217383987i feel like even at the top levels they do not go into this thinking about making a Star Trek show. there is a certain type of show they have in mind they want to make and they just slop IP paint over it. the fact that that IP is "Star Trek" doesn't actually factor in to the writing choices or the conceit of the show.
>>217383987>>217384035They'll just keep failing because of this and wondering why.So far, the only non-Trek fans they've managed to con into liking something are retarded American cartoon gooners, one of the lowest IQ fanbases in existence
>>217384035They are like, "We want our own Wednesday, what do we got? Star Trek? Eh sure."
>>217381281I'm cancelling my pre-orders
>>217384074the thing is, I think it's theorhetically possible to make a "Star Trek" IP slop show that is nothing like Star Trek but yet somehow still manages to be a good show that people would like. like for example I heard everyone saying how good Andor is, even people who don't give a flying fuck about Star Wars otherwise. it's like I said before>good good, bad bad
>>217383254So, your argument is, viewers don't watch tv in HD on the streamer they pay for, but instead watch in lower resolution on the YouTube app.Because -- why now?
>>217384150which ones did you have ordered?
>>217384074even if drecks was somewhat successful it doesnt have any lasting effect because those degens will just move on to the next crudely drawn cartoon as soon as they stop making it. the think they really dont get is that with star trek quantity is more important than quality. we will forgive all sorts of shortcuts and mistakes for 25 stories a year. what i dont get is why they wont try it. CBS produces half a dozen shows with 20+ episode seasons. dont care if it doesnt look like a big budget movie with the beat wiz bang lazers. bottle episodes and cardboard sets is why star trek was greenlit in the first place.
>>217384172I don't suscribe to a single streaming service but I have youtube premium.
>>217384218>I don't subscribe to a single streaming service but I subscribe to a single streaming service
>>217383872I am not saying there isn't a lot of waste, but these shows would still be expensive even if that were not the case. The normies DO want CGI. Actors used to be a semi-wise investment in terms of marketing, but that is a lot less true these days. Regardless, I really doubt Giamatti is asking for a ludicrous amount of money. Unsure on Elastigirl. The only thing I can't believe is that they allow Kurtzman to continue to drive this brand. He has alienated hardcores, and I don't think he obtained tons of new eyeballs either. I understand if they want to chase market trends, but they should absolutely be trying anyone besides Kurtzman at this point.
>>217384266Is YouTube bidding to by Warner Bros? Serious question. I can't keep track anymore.
>>217384218We call that “The Preem” around here
>>217384294Who gives a fuck what normies want. Make your own original sci-fi show for them. Star Trek was made by Gene who was an autstic pervert for other autistic perverts. Being ashamed of the IPs core audience, turning your back on them, and then still wanting to make money off that IP is RETARDED.
Paramount going up $1, bleh.
>>217384459Invasion America, made by a group of Trek vets. Gargoyles is Science Fantasy, but ditto. Roswell Conspiracies: Aliens, Myths and Legends. Superman: The Animated Series. Batman Beyond. These are shows with a cinematic quality ala Next Gen era Trek, all have incredible episodes that put most new sci fi shows to shame in terms of artistry and intelligence. Cadillacs and Dinosaurs is alright. Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles is strong though limited on sci-fi. The movie Titan A.E. is good, ditto for Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. Marvel Knights Motion comics like Iron Man Extremis, Eternals, and Inhumans are quite thought provoking. You won't find anything with actual stimulating writing or maturity in the last decade. But you will find plenty of things written for 12 year olds that grown adults tell themselves are adult because their is heavy swearing and bloody violence. Once you run out of the good stuff, I'm sorry
>>217384388Oh. Have you forgotten? Star Trek belongs to Paramount, and they will do whatever they want. Crybabies who don't watch but still bitch, and steal everything else, don't have a say.
>>217384459>Final Fantasy>AmericanTransformers is more American
>>217384507Based bootlicker
>>217384510The completely original film from 2001, based on the concepts shared by the Japanese games, not any of the anime-esque spin offs of the Japanese games. The film is as western as the Wachowski's Speed Racer.
Allamaraine
I can see where Academy is going and it's not going to be good. That said...I actually like the Jem'Hadar lady. That is all.
TOS is unwatchable trashStar Trek starts with Wrath of Kahn and ends with First Contact
>>217385125>spoilerI didn't at first, but she's kind of starting to grow on me.
Apparently, Star Trek: Starfleet Academy has become the first Trek series ever, over all 60 years, to be certified Fresh on RT.The scrappy undergrads of SFA win again.
>>217385149It is completely baffling, but that is exactly how I feel. You get it.
a SFA First Fresh Trek.jpg
>>217385125>>2173851495 threads ago I said that she would surprise us as the most competent actress. I wasn't wrong. Worst character is the goofy looking photonic. Imagine Geordie or Uhura were retards. You think Martin Luther King Jr. would have encouraged Nichols to not quit the show? You keep playing the negro retard for our cause!
>>217385176>35% audience >beaten by two fat old cheese heads>beaten by a video of an empty room with a spock plushie sitting in a chairlollmao
>>217385281So, are these people actually mentally retarded or something? One of them eats their fucking commbadge.
>>217385125Tut, tut! She's Jem'Hadar-Klingon. Don't be racist.
Ayo, all praise to da Founders who bless us widdis ordah of KFC. May it make us stronga and sheeit, and may we serve da Dominion widd a side of collard greens.
>>217385281SAMs deep dive episode is SFA S01E05, written by our own Tawny Newsome. Praised by critics who have seen it already as one of the best episodes of Trek ever, out of the whole 950.Might want to reserve judgement until you see that.
>>217385455I can't understand why Picardo can't see this? Why is he pretending that Star Trek was always like this? That combadge is huge, how and why would you even put this close to your mouth?
Explain to me, why all the pretend shills?
>>217385404"Dear take out the trash.""Mommmm! I can't! I'm busy spamming down votes in the Culture War!"
>>217385531Because the mods on /co/ wouldn't let him have his Lower Decks general year roundSo he came here and posted his gay cartoon and got made fun of, so now he's spitefully driven to try and ruin /trek/ by spamming stuff we all hate here and "ironically" shilling.I wish I was lying but that's the stone cold truth.
>>217385455That's the story I want to see. How did a presumably 18 year old girl who absolutely should know better swallow her badge?
>>217381069Space Dandy. It stars a dandy guy, in space.
>>217385531those who discuss it openly find their posts deleted anon
>>217385570Ha. Reminds me of Metroid threads on /v/, where one guy constantly tries to bring up the most hated game in the series and is rightfully shit on for it.
>>217385575comm badges are just tide pods of the future
>>217385575That's Episode 6. Her deep dive.
>>217381069Planetesits about garbage collectors cleaning trash around earth's orbitits 10/10 tbqh
>>217385125She’s fun, episode 2 made me start to like her. I wish more characters had makeup like her (i think?) and not CGI, i miss all the costuming from TNG and DS9 before everything was cg.
>>217385615They're doing a deep dive about a one-off joke character? You know it wasn't SAM that swallowed the combadge, right?
>>217385570That was five years ago. He's been doing this for five years.That's some grudge of his.
