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(((Fërëngi))) ëdition

Prëviously on /trëk/:
>>217394236
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star trëk sëx with shran
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poon foorr with dooctor seloor
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Captain, I'm sensing growth in the southern quadrant.
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DEY HEA
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star trek frotting with gorns
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>>217404184
>Iggy Pop was in Star Trek?
>Yes
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Also thank you for not posted the frog, OP.
The stars don't belong to only him

Not Star Trek
Not Stargate
Not even Starfox
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>>217404184

my tip for when you want to deface the OP: at least put the correct term in the image filename so it still shows up when you search the catalog
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Suddenly, Vulcan Zombies!
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I calculated the ROI of Star Trek movies. I took budget and box office (USD) figures from Wikipedia and used this formula:

ROI = (Box Office − Budget) / Budget

Grouped by era.

TOS (Original Series films)

Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Budget: $44M
Box office: $139M
ROI: ~216%
Profitable, but expensive for its time.

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Budget: $12M
Box office: $97M
ROI: ~708%
Massive hit; best ROI in the franchise.

Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
Budget: $16M
Box office: $87M
ROI: ~444%
Very strong return.

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Budget: ~$23M (midpoint of $21–25M)
Box office: $133M
ROI: ~478%
One of the most profitable Trek films.

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
Budget: $33M
Box office: $63M
ROI: ~91%
Underperformed; borderline failure.

Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Budget: $30M
Box office: $96.8M
ROI: ~223%
Solid comeback.

TOS summary:
Low budgets and huge ROI. Only Star Trek V seriously underperformed.

TNG (Next Generation films)

Star Trek: Generations
Budget: $35M
Box office: $118M
ROI: ~237%
Strong financial start.

Star Trek: First Contact
Budget: $45M
Box office: $146M
ROI: ~224%
Financially successful and well received.

Star Trek: Insurrection
Budget: $70M
Box office: $118M
ROI: ~69%
Disappointing return.

Star Trek: Nemesis
Budget: $60M
Box office: $67.3M
ROI: ~12%
Clear flop; did not break even.

TNG summary:
Early success followed by sharp decline. Nemesis effectively ended the TNG movie era.
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Kelvin Timeline

Star Trek (2009)
Budget: $150M
Box office: $385.7M
ROI: ~157%
Modest success; barely profitable by blockbuster standards.

Star Trek Into Darkness
Budget: ~$187.5M (midpoint of $185–190M)
Box office: $467.4M
ROI: ~149%
Essentially break-even after marketing.

Star Trek Beyond
Budget: $185M
Box office: $343.5M
ROI: ~86%
Financial flop.

Kelvin summary:
Despite high box office totals, massive budgets and marketing costs killed profitability. One modest success, one break-even film, and one flop - not sustainable as theatrical blockbusters.

Overall conclusion

Most profitable era: TOS films (especially Wrath of Khan and Voyage Home)

Most consistent success: Early TNG

Biggest failure: Nemesis

Modern problem: Star Trek does not scale well to $180M+ budgets

This is why the franchise ultimately shifted away from theaters toward streaming and TV.
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>Alexander Hilary Kurtzman (born September 7, 1973) is an American filmmaker. He is best known for co-writing the scripts to Transformers (2007), Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009), Star Trek (2009), Star Trek Into Darkness (2013), and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) with his writing and producing partner Roberto Orci, and directing and co-writing The Mummy (2017). He made his directorial debut with People Like Us (2012), co-written alongside Orci and Jody Lambert.

Jesus wept
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>>217404455
ENT was truly a return to form
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>>217404586
My favorite Transformers movie is the one with Orson Welles.
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>>217404353
Star was just as bad as Insaneway for genociding all magical beings
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>>217404315
>be a hologram
>able to look exactly however you want
>choose this
nigga i would be a fucking T-rex, or at least a fucking raptor, or like a giant spider just to fuck with people, what the hell lame ass bullshit man, at least the doctor has the excuse of being built by a narcissist, what person could pick peak any creature and choose to be an ugly fat retard looking thing
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>>217404609
ENTchad detected
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>>217404663
ugly fat girl is what looks cool to aliens
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>>217404678
ENT is a blast, my only gripe is how deliberately retarded they make Archer so he can fumble and bumble into their story of the week
its great when he's actually being a competent captain
but its frustrating when he's doing something blatantly unsafe for the sake of "curiosity and exploration!"
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>>217404736
>its great when he's actually being a competent captain
when was that?
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>>217404757
every time he told the vulcan high command to fuck themselves
god its nice to see vulcans be insulted to their faces
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>>217404757
When he raided a civilian science vessel and stole vital supplies leaving them helpless. Even Sisko never made such a ballsy move
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>>217404506
If you're not including the cost of advertising those movies, your figures are meaningless.
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>>217404640
The soundtrack for that movie punched above its weight class.
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Fuck ACK
Fuck STD
Fuck SJW
Fuck Trek & Morty
Fuck SPIC
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>>217404866
dangerously based
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>>217404866
Kira as a Cardassian was hot as fuck for some reason.
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>>217404448
it's linked from the previous thread
sorry your automated spambots couldn't find the thread from the catalog
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I love SA!
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>>217404917
i'm not a spambot I just like using the catalog
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>>217405033
is what a spambot would say
your new excomp name is CASHEW TOTE
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wouldn't it be fucking funny if they never bothered to retcon Local Area Network from the minds of the enterprise crew and spock just decided not to tell kirk about her?
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>>217404757
God the NX class is obviously supposed to be utilitarian and "submarine"-like but it really is so cool
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>>217405117
She's going to go out in a blaze of glory and sacrifice herself for the timeline or something.
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>>217404857
idiotic take
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>>217404586
I hate Krutzman so much it's almost unbelievable.
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>>217405055
exocomps are not bots they are REAL PEOPLE
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>>217404586
I liked the Mummy. Cruise rarely makes a bad film.
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>>217405137
nah she has to become a temporal agent, it's the only way they can justify her having existed at all
plus they wouldn't have had her bit with kirk in s2
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Voyager bros....we won.
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>>217405236
That was a decent 'sode in season 2.
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>>217405244
*except kes
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>>217405250
i agree, s2 overall was fairly kino
musical haters be damned
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>>217405244
>sci fi series
>only one alien on crew
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i remember the episode where it really felt like Archer was acting like how you would expect a true Starfleet captain to act for once: defending the defenseless on principle even when it technically helps the enemy.

but it turns out he was actually just being mind controlled to do the right thing and the entire crew was about to mutiny over it. out of all the actual blatantly retarded shit Archer had done that put lives at risk. that was the thing they all wanted to draw the line on. saving babies. Enteprise is something else.
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>>217405722
Neelix, Kes, Tuvok, B'lana
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>>217405244
heck, even 7of9 could be considered part alien since she had Borg components
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>>217404866
Man I want to breed a Cardie babe raw until my dick is so chafed I need to walk bow-legged for a month.
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You helped this happen.
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>>217405730
Complaining about a 30 year old show when everything made since then is orders of magnitude worse?
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>>217405786
Calm Down, Miles.
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>>217405722
>Harry kim
>Chakotay
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>>217405822
there hasn't been any Star Trek made since then
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>>217405138
Why? Advertising is part of the cost of the movie that they have to make up in order to break even. It's not just the production costs of the actual movie.
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>>217405150
Why would you hate someone you've never even met? You really need to get out of your room more often. Better yet, why not write a treatment for a Star Trek show, and several scripts for it? Even if they just end up on a fanfic site, at least you'd prove that you're capable of replacing Kurtzman, instead of just seething about someone more successful than you. Spoiler alert: you've got no game whatsoever.
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>>217405922
I hate you and I never met you. Hating unlikeable people is pretty common.
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>>217405969
It's only common to you, and you don't know if it's common to other people, because you never leave your room.
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>>217405922
shots fired!
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why are you like this all day every day
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>>217406041
I don't pretend I can replace any of the Star Trek showrunners, yet at least I've written a handful of fanfics that I've posted in the usual places. It's far more than the seethers here have ever done, despite having lots of free time on their hands.
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>>217406040
Yeah, this is a view from my room.
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>>217406077
I assume that's a rhetorical question, since you didn't address it to anyone. And only you can answer why you are like this all day every day.
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>>217406077
By rights, this episode should be dogshit, but it's actually kino.
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>>217406135
Because DS9 understands its characters and has amazing character writing.
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>>217406087
You live on the Tokaido bullet train as it crosses the Fuji River?
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>>217406177
Yeah, in an overhead compartment. It has a better toilet than your house.
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>>217406163
That's typical for a soap opera. Which DS9 is. About mall cops in space.
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>we want to be inclusive so we now have wheelchair bound people in a future where medical technology can just make cancer evaporate

Good spot /trek/.

These people have literally never watched Star Trek. Or they did and this is literally what they managed to take away from it. We've proven Alex Kurtzman only watched the TNG movies. And also failed to understand them.
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>217405922
hitler
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>>217406198
Even when you're caught dead to rights lying, you continue to double down. That takes some special retardation.
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If you had to choose a government to live under, excluding the Federation, which would you choose? For me, it would be the Romulan Empire.
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>>217404736
If I were Archer I'd fumble and bumble some of the time, if you know what I mean.
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>>217406212
you're gonna be mad when I tell you they had been wanting to do a "wheelchair Officer" episode on TNG for fucking years but it never materialized and they finally got a script that they turned into Melora. like that was their whole idea. just a Starfleet officer that has to use a wheelchair. maybe you don't know as much as you think.
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>>217406203
Have you actually ever watched Guiding Light or As The World Turns or shit? Guiding Light was on the air for like 50 years straight or some shit. It started as a fucking radio show.
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>>217406212
There was a wheelchair user in DS9.
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>>217405790
On its own out of context it doesn't seem so bad? It's just a blue space chick.
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>>217406077
because security refuses to enforce the no trolling rule and he has no life
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>>217406265
Hey Bashirfaggot can you show us your butthole?
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>the LD schizo is now banned from making threads by his own admission
lol
lmao
roflmao even

That's good
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>>217406261
That episode was written by a spiteful cripple who thought sitting in a wheelchair was a choice (and a noble choice for some reason)

>>217406269
She wasn't disabled, she was native to a planet that had a much weaker gravitational field.
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>>217406271
It's a male.
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>>217406235
I'm not lying the bullet train Toto toilet is better than whatever Western garbage you use.
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>>217406312
You don't know why the user is in the chair.
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>>217406261
>>217406269
And it was shit and they never did it again.
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>>217406087
Where's Teletraan-1?
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>ship is shaped like the seal of the UFP
pls
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>>217406432
Is this G1 or Beast Wars?
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>>217404347

>Shape shifting "Founders"
>Enslave a race of elves
>Literally attempt to "genetically" modify them to be more subservient.
>Still insufferably arrogant and condescending with the other races....
>Still insufferably arrogant and condescending.

Poetic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-y_eN-jTTI

>List of Names of Odin
>Fjallgeiguðr ("Shape-god"): A name explicitly referencing his ability to change shape.
>Alfodr All-father, Lord of Alfaheim, Father of the Elves
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>>217406350
Rick Berman stopped them. He's gone thankfully.
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>>217406304
https://youtu.be/_yijcWsLda8?t=10
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>>217404663
You're not AI though
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>>217406503
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>>217406240
They're paranoid, racist Vulcan supremacists who purge everyone and everything, and if you somehow survive, they turn you into a slave caste.
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>>217406240
Klingons are dope, piracy and fighting, then rough sex with the Mrs. when I arrive back home.
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>>217406643
Who would you choose then?
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>>217406681
Probably the Ferengi desu
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>>217406688
Is this a teachable moment?
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>>217406688
Women are getting bigg- woah woah woah
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>>217406688
Does Starfleet not even have physical fitness standards anymore?
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>>217406688
18th century irish indentured servant meant for washing rags and nothing else
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>>217406261
>>217406269
>>217406312

lol

>>217405543
>>217405601
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>>217406304
>everyone who disagrees with me is one schizo!
The /co/ LODE generals proved that the geezers who just want to relive Berman-Braga-Behr BoreTrek are a minority
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>>217406816
Go back there
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it never made sense to me why there isn't "ban evading" and "complaining about moderation" options on this list
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>>217406751
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>>217406897
>retired
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>>217406459
G1
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>>217404184
>Using diacritical marks to try and hide your Discord annex

Starfleet Academy doing great finally broke you.
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>>217406897
Bro was suspended in the Transporter buffer and gained 50lbs
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>>217406916
Are you really playing this game?
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>>217406508
>thankfully
What do you mean?
Rick Berman would never have allowed this >>217406688
He was based.
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So, on Thursday the anger puppets were crowing that YouTube clicks proved no one was watching SFA and everyone hates New Trek. Then, that stopped. Wonder why?

Oh, that's why.
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>>217406866
He can't because the mods gave him a Stone Cold Stunner and kick him off the board
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>>217406751
>Why isn't the Education Liaison ripped like an 18 year old Cadet?

You didn't even watch the episode.
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>>217406997
not fat + he's high rank + he's old
young cadet has no tenure and 0 excuse and hasn't earned the privileges of command
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>>217407044
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>>217407110
If only we hadn't seen them serving on the bridge of the ship during a crisis in those clips they released a few weeks ago.
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>>217407044
It's like you're begging to be embarrassed over and over again.
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>>217406755
jej
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>>217407002
Why wouldn't he? Have you ever listened to Rick Berman or watched his works? He was concerned with coming in on time and on budget.

He vetoed the Romulan warbird and the only reason we have it is because Andy Probert went around him to Gene and then got fired for that.
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>>217407139
>15,000 dislikes
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>>217406772
DS9 has a whole episode about a chair chick who refuses to be helped. She falls over.
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>>217407126
Why are you digging this hole? She's not young or a cadet.

Stop making me defend a bad show you fucking retard.
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To the guy who was having a go at me yesterday for "feeding the troll" (if he's here): I haven't engaged with said troll at all since then. So how did that work out?
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>>217406688
>Computer
>Chicken, deep fried, hot.
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>>217407178
>Stop making me defend a bad show you fucking retard.
Nobody is making you take retard positions, you're doing that on your own
The other anon is right, you're an idiot.
>>217407189
Obviously he's extra motivated with a new show to shill but the rule holds, barring exceptions
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>>217407189
it worked out great because you didn't contribute to it are you really that fucking retarded that you don't get how this works?
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>>217407133
>>217407139
if you have the energy to reply to low quality bait, then you have the energy to alert security that there's an advertiser/troll. it takes a village, people
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>>217404184
Based retard OP making it impossible for anyone to find the thread in the catalog
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>>217407139
>My review bombing is winning the Culture War!

No one pays attention to you Click Commandos. You're the blue bottle buzzing in the window screen.

Decisive New Trek Victory
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>>217407044
>what are bots
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>>217407248
>>217404917
You're a stupid faggot.
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>>217406415
Did you rent a GPU for that?
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>review bombing
Proof? There's none? Cope.
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>>217407280
>says the rétärd
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>>217407209
Shit, you are here :) Not convinced the threads went any better, but fine, sheesh. I'll continue not firing back as he continues shitting all over /trek/ and replying to himself.
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>>217407319
Notice how I was able to find your reply because it was linked? That's something you somehow managed to have trouble with.
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>>217407265
>They're bots but I'm not! Now let me flip ips to make another down vote. My cunning plan can not fail!

All you've done is make review bombing like yours useless. It doesn't work.
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>>217407351
how about instead of expending wasted effort replying to a redditor with 0 social life, you >>217407230
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>>217407351
i promise not to report if if you admit it but are you literally like 12 years old? I have never met someone having so much trouble understanding the value of not feeding trolls and fighting against the concept like a fucking retard like you. if you're such a stubborn childish retard that you can't help yourself but reply to trolls and help him fill the thread with worthless shitposts go ahead.
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>>217407261
>Decisive New Trek Victory
So is there a new season of Lower Decks in production right now?

They are making more right? Considering how beloved, critically acclaimed, and popular LD is, there's no way they'd just let it die. right?
I mean we won, it's a decisive Nu Trek Victory so I can only assume this is the case.

Anyway, we did it!
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>>217407261
>>217407411
Remind me how many seasons and episodes did TNG,DS9 and Voyager had?
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>>217407372
Why do you think generals have the name of the general in the OP? Brain dead imbecile.
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>>217404817
Mirror Porthos best Porthos.
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>>217407384
What funny is if they just pandered to the fur fag audience with a edgy goth caitian with grabbable ass they would have made millions even with cuntsmans ADHD grade school writing
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>>217407453
The name is in the OP, and you found the thread just fine. You're bitching just to bitch.
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>>217407399
>>217407402
Lighten up, eh? None of this shit matters.
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>>217407513
retardo ad absurdum
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>>217407133
Their Re:View videos are comfy and earnest in a way that Star Trek completely abandoned. Perfect bedtime viewing.
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>>217407542
set engines to coze
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>>217407534
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>>217407411
Any day now Big Mike "He Likes 'Em Tight" McMahan will announce Star Trek: Lower Decks: The Motion Picture. Any day now.
Any day now.



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