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Renly was the rightful king
I haven't read the books but was that Lannister meant to be so Dornish-coded?
>>217446615>Depicted as a Chad>Got crippled in his first dragon fight and has to sneak attack a fat defenceless woman and her son through treachery because he got BTFO despite having the biggest dragon in the realm on his side and had already sneak attacked another child
>>217446615Any webm requests?
>>217446631The only thing he was a rightful king of was the graveyard if they even bothered to bury him in one.
I just watched the episode and thought it was fine, but I have no real excitement for it going forward. I cannot tell if that is because the episode just whatever or if I am just sort of apathetic in response to GOT and HOTD. I suppose I will have to see what the next episode is like to have a better judgement.
>>217446615>/got/hotd/dunk/Cant wait for what the general is going to be when the arya spinoff releases
>>217446659Any of the dancing.
>>217446659>>217446704Been a while I read DnE, Lyonel and Dunk dancing wasn't in the books right?>>217446659Oh, 'dead' whore's tits.
>>217446691They have stooped making episodic self containing stories and just try to make it a long movie split into 8-10 parts. An episode by itself feels like partial plot leaving everone unsatisfied
>>217446691There's still a lot of time to fuck things up, even though the first steps are good. HOTD and GOT trained you to look out of a gradual decline in quality as a show proceeds, so you won't feel sure about Dunk until it's done or near-done.I have a very good feeling about the show so far based on just the first episode, it feels right. But I've thought the same in GOTS1-3 and look how that turned out.
>>217446650What Lannister? There are no Lannister fucking shits at the Ashford tourney, do you mean dondarrion?
>>217446631> Im voting for renly baratheon because we need a King who sucks cock and eats ass and gets fucked in his ass with cocks and eats cum
>>217446744No in fact lyonel is barely in it until the trial of the seven, this is a good change, it makes far more sense now that he'll step up
>>217446631How on earth did he get the entire Stormlands and Reach to shit all over the line of succession without a single lord going against it? Even the Greens and the Blackfyre fucking shits didn't try to pull the shit they did without at least having something resembling a rightful claim.
>>217446744>Lyonel and Dunk dancing wasn't in the books right?No it wasn't. But in the books Lyonel's intervention feels a bit sudden and contrived, with this change if they do it correctly the intervention will feel more earned.
>>217446691Only problem I have are the actors. Dunk is ok, Egg could've been more haughty. Lyonel reminds me of Ray Stevenson (Titus Pullo) and was my headcanon for the Laughing Storm.
Do you think we'll see egg get a clout on the ear?
>>217446851He never does in the stories, dunk is always threatening to but never actually does it
>>217446849I thought Dunk looked okay in the pictures but the actor is actually pretty good. Besides shitting in my face I guess
>>217446811Plot. You have to understand that ASOIAF is a story of plot contrivance just as much as it is a story of "realism" almost the entire Targaryen family dies to a fucking fire and no one cares enough to mention it until halfway through the story. Because we needed a plot contrivance for why no one tried what Dany did, and also why there aren't like 500 targs running around.
>>217446881>>217446851Dunk would never, he a gentle soul and has a soft spot for fellow orphans
>>217446849This is the thing with the laughing storm, we know almost nothing about him he shows up is cool AF and that's it. Dinc mentions him later in mystery knight when some pro tourney knight is talking about how great he is and dunk says>What you think your better then the Laughing Storm?To which the snail knight replies>I never said that I just said I was really really goodSomething along those lines, but we never really get many or almost any scenes with Lyonel Baratheon, so everyone has their own idea of what kind of a person he is and sure a Titus Pullo type is many including my thoughts about who he was, but I'm really happy seeing this. I can see the fat man writing this character exactly a party animal who is extremely competent at combat and doesn't suffer sicophants and fools likes to drink likes to party loves to fight, it's perfect
>>217446704
what is the premise of this show and why should I care? Egg short for Aegon, I get it so he's obviously a Targaryen, but that's all I know
>>217447027literally me at all of my cousins weddings>>217447049up to you, it's black cop white cop buddy comedy but black cop is actually white kid
>>217447027If it hadn't been for Cotton-Eye JoeI'd been married long time agoWhere did you come from, where did you go?Where did you come from, Cotton-Eye Joe?
>>217447049Watch A Knights Tale, it's about a poor lad trying to change his stars
>>217446744>Oh, 'dead' whore's tits.
>>217447027Peter Dinklage seems taller than I remember.
>>217446754Lyonel what was he? Was he not Lannister? Why the heck was he wearing stag/deer horns?
>>217446811Getting the reach on board was a huge win, what's his face margerys dad wanted her to be a queen and he threw all the strength of the reach at it
>>217447074>literally me at all of my cousins weddingsHe is also literally me if I was tall, white with an attractive face
>>217447123He's a Baratheon you dumb fuck the Lannisters sigil is a lion, shut the fuck up and go sit in the corner, you aren't allowed to post for at least an hour
Cute and canon!
Bobby B did nothing wrong! Bow you Targshits!
House of the Dragons S2 was really bad and dragged on too. Is this better or should I succumb to my Game of Thrones fatigue?
People on here like the second book alot but I'm a big fan of the third. I like the conspiracy stuff and the theme of "true" knights not being very knightly compared to the true lords
>>217447230>Is this betteToo early to tell, I am not a bookfag but I like the potential it has shown so far. The humor is pretty good imo
>>217447230This won't drag. It's only 6 episodes and short
>>217447259I like all 3 I just like the second one best
>>217447049>what is the premise of this show and why should I care? if GOT/HOTD was about the devious backstabbing and power plotting of the high nobility from their POV, Dunk is more about dirt-poor roughshod lowborn idiots who despite their ham-handedness actually emody virtue and honor and goodness more than any of the nobles from GOT/HOTD did
>>217447279>6 episodesFor all three books, or just the first one? Because each book is 2 hours maximum.
>>217447230HotD season 2 is 4 really good episodes and 4 shitty episodes. there is no in-between at all, it barely even makes sense to generalize about the quality of the season.
>>217446659Whores laughing at Dunk for being a poorfag hedge knight.
>>217447302NTA, I am pretty sure they will stretch each book for a season
>>217447288I think the 2nd will make for good episodes
>>217447302Lol just the first book but you already knew that you disingenuous faggot
>>217447351I want to see the chicken fort in real life
>>217447331
>>217447027
>>217447367You'll only be disappointed
>>217447027>setting up their future duel in e1Fucking based
>>217447414Damn, didn't recognize him with all that hair
Was a big fan of the tent and dancing scene
>>217447422It's supposed to be disappointing that the point
Is there any show concept that might be interesting in that world but outside of Westeros?
any NIGGERS in this show?
>>217447465Margin Call Braavosi banker edition.
>>217447027B A S E D ASED
>>217447465I personally would like a show on the Faceless Men of Braavos, maybe the origin and how they grew
>>217447487Only you
>>217447487Some minor female eye candy
>>217447507>maybe the origin and how they grewThat is probably one of those things where the mystery and whatever you can think up is more interesting than whatever they will give you.
"Words are wind," japed nuncle as grease dripped from his chin onto the nipples of his breakfast. He broke his fast on black bread, mulled wine, and bacon burned black while the planks of the ship groaned like a fat man taking a shit and the wench squealed as fat pink masts jutted into her swamp. The Princess shat in the privy, cursing the poorly cooked capon they had supped upon the night before, and ignored Nuncle's wise words. She could not hear him, for she was guzzling arbor gold and the more she drank the more she shat until she was shitting brown water. Nuncle tutted, shook his head, "She may be blood of the dragon, but does she know that the night is dark and full of terrors, where do whores go, that a Lannister always pays his debts, that Egg needs a clout in the ear, and that Winter is coming?"
>>217447492kek
>>217438259>>217438273Grok, fact check this for me
>>217446785dis nigga finna get his bussy crust BUSTED
>>217446785Hello saar
Why is Lyonel so peculiar? He is supposed to be just drunk or like that also when sober? Bookfags, is that what his book version is like?
>>217447539Yeah, you're right. I was watching a youtube channel which sorta delved into the origin it was somewhat intriguing at first but the more they dug into it the more it didn't make sense for me. I was hoping they made some cool lore of it in a tv show
>>217447465One of the dragonriders from Valyria trying to reach the southernmost part of Sothoryos. I think she gave up after 5 years, which tells you how big Planetos is.
>>217447558It says so on Wikipedia but i think Ira Parker wrote almost all episodesSo those "women" are just credited with him
>>217447558Oh I see you woke up faggot, could you keep your seething to a minimum
>>217446811Because Renly was fucking popular and beloved by everyone. The Crown was shitting their pants in the books about a Renly victory because of how OP his forces were. Stannis had to literally cheat to win.The most popular Baratheon married the hottest Tyrell alive, do the math
>>217447572I'm not a bookfag either, he felt more Dornish than Baratheon to me
>>217446936I don't think you know what "contrivance" means or is, anon. All the Targs dying to fire is purposefully ironic and one of the base themes of the books. Learn 2 basic subtext, zoomie.
>>217447572His book version is basically absent, he shows up in the finale and that's pretty much it, he's discussed and mentioned but the actual guy isn't their until the finale
>>217447591Aight>>217447599I'm not him but explain the lore
Sweet shield
>>217447601>be beloved, most handsome, propably smartest with most powerful forces>also be married to hottest chick>be gaytruly a monkey paw
>>217447647>explain!!!Basically some anon has been sperging for a couple weeks now spamming and so on the usual, he's very upset
>>217447572>Bookfags, is that what his book version is like?No. In the books he's just big, loud and laughs a lot. Kind of like Robert was before he got old, fat and depressed.
>>217447601Renly was a dick, always making jokes at others expenses. Stannis wins
>>217447659looks a bit gay, is it house Tyrell?
>>217447705That is Set Duncan the Talls sigil and shield you fag, show some respect to the greatest knight that ever was or ever will be.
How many years before GoT and/or after HotD is this?
>>217447781>years before GoTaround 90>after HotDaround 70-80 i think
>>21744778189 years before got about a 100 years after hotd
>>217447694Stannis go to bed
>>217447814I hope you are doing a bit.
>>217447817> I swear, I will go to my grave thinking of my brother's peach.Kinda gay
>>217447027I like his vibe for Westeros, a silly almost mad man with a slight hint of depression
>>217447668Margery was literally suggesting her brother help them get her pregnant, the guy Renly was sleeping with anyways.Renly wouldve done his royal duty and squeezed some babys into her over the years, and then he couldve whored around with whom ever he wanted. she too.Their marriage would've been a lot happier and more productive than Robert+Cersei. Its literally a win-win that he's gay and she's a slut anyways.
>>217447857? No what do you mean that's the timeline
>>217447259People just like the blackfyres and bloodraven
>>217447811>>217447814The Targ family tree in the show skip one of Aerys II 'The Mad King"'s ancestors, right? Jaeherys II? Is it still within that timeframe?
>>217447908If that's true then still yea that's still about right 1/2 way between dance and got
>>217447635>Muh it's purposely ironicNo it isn't. It's a coverup for going halfway it no the story and then the question of "why the fuck are there only 5 goddamn people in the royal family when they've been around for 300 years" shows up. It's ironic in a post-hoc way to justify the needed random culling of the family because the entire setting falls apart if something like that doesn't happen. I swear to God people now adays have this obsession with justifying blatant contrivances with "muh themes, muh subtext!" There is none apart from the immediately ironic "lol fire guys died to fire" and "lol Rhaegar was actually born when that happened, doesn't that make him look like some prophesied hero? Isn't it ironic what happens later". It exists to serve the plot that occurs at the beginning of the story because none of that shit was thought up yet.
>>217447633Stormlanders are practically dornish
>>217447751Duncan the best knight? No sir
>age Dunk up and change virtually nothing else about the character >ends up becoming 100x more relatable to the target audience
>>217447958thems fighting words dorne man
Is season 2 good? I watched the first season and remember being disappointed but i did watch them all. The wigs were bad though especially on the you know whos
>>217447958Well they don't have the plot armor and the hot women(seriously, is there a single stormlander woman in the story described as beautiful?), so they're missing the defining traits.
>>217447882Tony would be a Daemon B supporter and you know it
>>217447908If I remember correctly, J2 is missing from GOT but is back in the HOTD tree.
>>217447953Anon, the first draft of AGoT was like, written in the fucking 80s...It's intentional shit about the Targs.
>>217447991s2's much worse
>>217448008HotD is not canon, it’s lesbian fanfic
>>217447999He would be a Daeron supporter because he has the closest equivalent to an Italian wife.
>>217447991Season 2 is worse than 1, it doesn't even have a good season finaleWait till Season 3 and if thats good (highly doubt it) binge watch it then
>>217448024Is matt smith still in it?
>>217447908Yeah I’ve been meaning to askWhich King got removed from the show universe if ASOIAF so everyone can be aged up?
>>217448049GODS I WAS HORNY THEN!
>>217448049yes but barely any good moments
>>217448035
>>217448049>Paddy got to dry hump thatdang
>>217447974Yes he is go shit on a brick Dayne, you poncy fag. Look at it this way Dunc taught Gerold Hightower who taught Dayne, in the end all the greatest knights in the kingdom can trace it back to Ser Duncan without exception.
>>217448038>Dornish wife a mulignan
>>217448088I cant believe this was so long ago.
>>217448022George literally said himself he didn't even have the Mad King, the dozen+ Targ kings, and etc... planned out at all, he just made them up as he wrote the scenes. You're talking about the same draft that basically doesn't resemble the current story at all. And before you ask for proof:>https://youtube.com/watch?v=OG2-6Tj51FM
>>217447991S2 rushes or straight-out skips over actually interesting or important stuff and in its place focuses on what in a longer season would basically be padding. So it feels both rushed and dragged-out.
>>217448061I’m betting Aerys I
>>217448061Which Aegon is Egg?
>>217448076
>>217448076What category did she get nominated in awards? Best Actor (Female)?
>>217448094Aemon and Daemon would put Lunk in the ground
>>217448109kek
>>217448162>Jobber and Jobber Squared.They both just got hyped up because everyone else in their era was a dogshit fighter, or like Daemon they got their shit kicked in but no one likes to remember it.
>>217448162Best knight doesn’t necessarily mean best fighter
We need to see the Boltons again
>Duncan is irishMy disappointment is immeasurable
>>217448203Daemon was like 13 when he lost a fight to a guy like 8 years older than him, hardly fair and he barely lost. And Aemon never jobbed
>>217448162Lmao no he would've spanked aemon and broken daemons jaw and sent them on their way with the simple proviso to do better, early Dunc is strong late game Duncan is a fucking beast
>>217447659which merchant sells this one?
>>217448203>They both just got hyped up because everyone else in their era was a dogshit fighterWhat? People were legends during this time, it was almost Bobby B’s era of talented killers
>>217448137V
>>217448247That anon is retarded but Dunk is not beating the dragon knight
>>217448302So the Maester in GoT is VI?
>>217448296And yet they got dunked on, they are nothing compared to dunk
>>217448137Is this a joke
>>217448333Dunk literally got Dunked on by sand and fire
>>217448340No, I am not a bookfag and only watched GoT & HoTD
>>217448330No he was the older brother already a maester but he refused the crown, thats why he went to the wall in the first place so no-one would bother him about it once you take the black that's it. So the crown went to Aegon the V may we never learn what happened at Summerhill, don't think I could take it.
>>217448374The picture is a literal egg...
>>217448323As long as caraxses stays out of it I don't see why not
>>217448340>>217448394KEKThe circlejerk is now complete.
>>217448394Damn, missed it
>>217448343Early very early dunk, not Lord Commander Ser Duncan the Tall. You don't fuck with that guy. Unless you want your teeth kicked in.
>>217448418Aemon the dragonknight, not Daemon Targaryen who wasn’t even that great a fighter
>>217448391>No he was the older brother already a maesterI feel like the age depicted in GoT and the year this show is set in doesnt really add up
>>217448448I’m pretty sure grrm described Daemon b as a peak human and called him like Targaryen Achilles. I don’t think Dunk is beating him unless he’s like a teen
>>217448460Oh right lol my bad, it would still be close if we are talking prime LC Dunc vs DK Aemon
>>217448462He is even older in the novels, he is very very very old. The targs aren't like regular folk
>>217448554>The targs aren't like regular folkFar enough
>>217448511If we are talking about their primes then all db, dunc, and dk would all be close
>>217448554Nigga no one in ASOIAF is like regular folks. Robb Stark was 14 years old and leading armies, Jaime and Cersei have incestuous children and the only birth defect is that Joffrey was susceptible to his psycho mother raising him to be a psycho like her.
>>217448147>mummer's farceyou motherfuckers
>>217448076jewish hunter schafer
>>217448462Yeah see >>217448008but see >>217448136I saw some Targ family trees online based from the show, they removed either J2 or A1. They probably didn't think HBO would make prequels.
>>217442925 yeah how dare western men stand up to inbred rootless easterners that lost their homeland
>>217448147Any other webms you saved? My hard disk went kaput. Fk I saved a lot of hotd shit.
>>217448613>Jaime and Cersei have incestuous children and the only birth defect is that Joffrey was susceptible to his psycho mother raising him to be a psycho like her.Wasnt there a theory that all of Tywin 's Lannister children were actually Mad King's children and hence Targ blood
>>217448613That's not that outlandish look at our favorite leper King Baldwin 15 years old stunning victory against Saladin
>>217448664Also George has said that gunpowder doesn't work. The Maesters have basically been getting cucked when it comes to advancing science and improving the well-being of their fellow citizens by magical bullshit that keeps them in the late Renaissance at best. Who the fuck wouldn't want to get rid of it when all you get in return is Bloodstone Emperor's, Woods Witches driving future rulers insane, year long winters, and giant fire breathing lizards that kill millions of people
>>217448671Forgot how funny this lil nigga was, miss him like you wouldn’t believe
>>217448671I have a bunch. You want more?
>>217448690Just Tyrion cause his hair is platinum
>>217448585Dayne beats all three
Anyone have the book excerpt off Egg asking if Dunk is short for Duncan? It was pretty funny, was in another thread
>yo Robb, let these guys command most of your armyWhy are the Starks so retarded?
>>217448671A tale as old as time, if only you knew the webms that have been lost to history, so much bran talking rape, it's an entire series, my favourite was when Jamie was confessing at trial and bran out of nowhere >Sansa, the rape Sansa it was beautiful
>>217448690That doesn't explain Craster and why all his children aren't literal puddles of flesh. Though I do like that theory a lot, and it is one I actually subscribe to just because of how funny it is and how it fits thematically unlike the god awful Tyrion one. >>217448696The difference is that Robb isn't the only one, we have Benjicot Blackwood, Jon Snow, Daemon Blackfyre, and etc... Even irl we only have a few examples of actual teenagers kicking the shit out of grown men in battle or in wars, in ASOIAF once every generation some group of God-chosen teenagers are born.
>>217448720Can't believe they did this. Cucking then a mean, sansa deserved it. She's gonna seduce that young kid in winds of winter
>>217448671NTA, looking for edited sub webms or any HoTD webms?
>>217448754Dinc taught Gerold, Gerold taught Dayne, Dunc beats Dayne even with his faggy magic sword.
>>217448764Bloodraven
>>217448764starks are descended of aemond targaryen through the whents
>>217448764Plot-induced stupidity.
>>217448796>She's gonna seduce that young kid in winds of winterAren't she and Harry the Heir about the same age?
>>217448812That argument works both ways anon
>>217448712>>217448720Yeah send em
>>217448812>>217448754>>217448585Dayne is always the top. The mountain would beat dunc the lunk too
>>217448857
>>217448849He's talking about Chadrobin.
>>217448863Whoa slow down there
>>217448778Only have a handful but this is one, thank Tim Apple for iCloud
If Barristan died as a child wouldn't the entire setting be better off for it?
>>217448905if all the targs died the entire setting would be better offthat's why for all its problems the ending of GoT was based
>>217448720Do you have bran calling out Jamie at Winterfell during his 'trial'? I lost it ages ago and it was the best of the Sansa rape collection, it was perfect
>>217448764The Boltons had been "loyal" bannermen for about a thousand years at this point, and had supposedly quit the flaying stuff despite some unsubstantiated rumours. The show makes the timeline a bit murkier and Roose trying to convince Robb to flay his prisoners should arouse some more suspicion, but most of the backstory of the two houses can be assumed to be similar since it's not directly contradicted.
>>217448926I don't think so. >>217448928>
>>217448920Yeah but that's too obvious, I was thinking just single characters who fucked everything up without realizing it. If we're going that far we might as well approach the scenario from if every Valyrian died while they were still in their sheep fucking stage. The entire setting would be infinitely better for sure because not even the Andal invasions would have occured.
STOP RAPING HER, SER
>>217448902>>217448953Yea that's the classic one, but thanks all the same
>>217448953That wasn't rape
>>217448982Sorry, my bad!
>>217448905Maelys would’ve been worse than Maegor so we still needed Barristan to end that Blackfyre rebellion
>>217448953Back when this episode (2nd?) first aired, I was scratching my head 'cause Bran was waiting for Jaime in the middle of the freezing cold night (EP1) when he's the Three-Eyed Raven and definitely saw Jaime arriving in the morning??
Dunk is literally me
Why is dunk looking so confused and lost all the time, is he dumb?
>>217449020Maelys never stood a fucking chance desu. His only hope was stalling the entire seven kingdoms into the Stepstones then playing cat and mouse the entire time. Barristan killing him just sped up the inevitability of him dying in battle and taking the male blackfyre line with him. Even if it didn't, he wasn't a dragonrider, so eventually someone would have Faceless Man'd him.
>>217449082worse he’s poor
>>217449120man Daemon Blackfyre really had the best shot to take down the Targs before Bobby B and he fumbled
So did Ser Arlan actually knight Dunc or is he a filthy liar?
>>217446659montage of Dunk getting clouted in the ear
>>217447877I like how low observant he is despite his larger than life persona. His comment on Dunk’s shamed hunching and how he should embrace his god-given nature feels like a key moment for Dunk’s self-esteem.
>>217446811I forgot, did Renly's camp also use the story of Joffrey being a bastard to solidify his claim or did only Stannis do this?
The joke was that typically the tree would be blocking the ass, conveniently censoring it, but they filmed it from an angle where you could see the ass spraying out shit. You might have autism if you missed that.The joke was that they went through the trouble of positioning a large tree between the camera and the subject, but didn't take the opportunity to use it to censor the ass spraying shit. It's an inversion of the convenient censorship trope and plays on viewer expectations, i.e. irony. Thanks for making me dissect a joke, assholes.
>>217449188sneed
horses: 10/10show: 6/10 I was bored, no huge cockups
>>217449188I wish there was a tree blocking my view of your post.
>>217448920Jon didn't die
>>217449188No the tree. Blocked dunks 11 inch cock
>>217449188Its certainly the worst part of a pretty wholesome show
>>217449188>GoT theme>Dunk shittingBravo GRRM
>>217448613You typically don’t get birth defects after just one generation, unless both parents happen to carry some rare genetic mutation. It only becomes a problem if you keep doing it over and over again like the Targs.
What is your favourite:>Great House>secondary House>cadet branch>dragon
>>217447492good one
>>217449255Um
>>217447991It is inferior to S1, so there's no reason why you should like it if you didn't like S1 (unless it was for some ass-backwards reason). There are a few worthwhile subplots and some cool scenes, but the overall plotting is a botched abortion.
>>217449174Renlys whole claim was "come on guys it me.. Renly. Imagine the chill vibes if I'm king "
>>217449255Reminder Dany is supposed to look like this when she was sold to Drogo. No wonder she was in pain. Imagine being a virgin in 7th grade then suddenly a massive man with a 12 incher bends you over every night. No wonder she turned crazy
>>217447991episode 1,2,4 and 7 are as good as season 1. the other episodes feel like filler.there is almost no middle-ground. Bryan Condan is struggling because GRRM himself didn't do the work of making the story TV-ready in F&B like he did with GoT. the old man can just publish his cliff notes now and let someone more motivated make it into a show.
>>217449162dunno
>>217449162Liar and the truest knight who ever was or ever will be
>>217449337Well his real claim was he had the reach behind him
>>217449162in the book he did. it probably wouldn't even have occurred to dunc to lie and we learn about it entirely from his inner monologue.
>>217449174Renly was too stupid to even notice, and started projecting on Stannis claiming that he was just making shit up to avoid admitting what a dumbass he was. He had not one fuck to give, if that was his actual nephew he still would have usurped him for no reason. He is by far the most shit tier ASOIAF character.
>>217446811Renly was Lord Paramount of the Stormlands and their liege lord which is why they followed him. The Tyrells knew Stannis would never trust them after the siege of Storm’s End. Renly offered to marry Margaery and make her queen which won the Reach. Stannis was deeply unpopular and a heretic. Joffrey was the anointed king, so the line of succession isn’t really what matters it’s who has the ability to press their claim.
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>>217447027I stood up and yelled 'GO WHITE BOY!' when this scene happened
>>217449243the resurrected can't reproduce, according to grrm. plus he's sworn not to breed and not an acknowledged targ. lol
>>217449360Ok Ryan complain all you want but you've fucked up a lot, I mean the dragon coming out of the pit killing hundreds of small folk and nothing? Think you dumb fuck just think.
>Stop raping, serNobody warned me about this woke shit
>>217449360i love to put blame on the fat man but season 2's faults were on him not george
>>217447027Godforbid a whiteman wants to get down
>>217449477>story about a peasant raised by a single mom attempting social mobility among the 1%Dunk's story is inherently woke and always has been
>>217448759Idk why you need it posted, it's verbatim to the show, but here you go>“What’s your name?”>“Dunk,” he said.>The wretched boy laughed aloud, as if that was the funniest thing he’d ever heard. “Dunk?” he said. “Ser Dunk? That’s no name for a knight. Is it short for Duncan?”>Was it? The old man had called him just Dunk for as long as he could recall, and he did not remember much of his life before. “Duncan, yes,” he said. “Ser Duncan of…” Dunk had no other name, nor any house; Ser Arlan had found him living wild in the stews and alleys of Flea Bottom. He had never known his father or mother. What was he to say? “Ser Duncan of Flea Bottom” did not sound very knightly. He could take Pennytree, but what if they asked him where it was? Dunk had never been to Pennytree, nor had the old man talked much about it. He frowned for a moment, then blurted out, “Ser Duncan the Tall.” He was tall, no one could dispute that, and it sounded puissant.>Though the little sneak did not seem to think so. “I have never heard of any Ser Duncan the Tall.”>“Do you know every knight in the Seven Kingdoms, then?”>The boy looked at him boldly. “The good ones.”>>217449162It's never been stated definitively, but all signs point to Dunk lying. This makes for good drama, since this give him imposter syndrome, but also makes him strive to embody knightly ideals, making him better than most "real" knights.
>>217449444The show did make one good point here>Until my deathHe died, once he is rezzed then his oath is done he stood the wall until his death.
>>217449347No joke I had a blonde gf like this in 7th and 8th grade and only kissed her. Not even tongue just pecks. I was going to finger her one night but my friend who was my ride threw up and I had to leave with him. Her parents never let her out so I did have another good chance because we didn't really do anything at school. We broke up when we went to different highschools. I remember freshman year she posted a selfie and it had over 150 likes and I realized I'd never have a chance like that again. I didn't have sex til I was 21 and got a prostitute. Many such cases
>>217449530he returned to it tho lol
>>217449417>Renly was Lord Paramount of the Stormlands and their liege lord which is why they followed him.Robert and Jon Arryn had a sizeable amount of rebel lords during the Bobellion and that was even with Aerys burning innocent lords alive.Any stormlander with a shred of honor should have told Renly to fuck off when he crowned himself over Robert's supposed heir.
>>217447487>any NIGGERS in this show?2. One of them istanselle pitifully and one of the whores named Beony, they look more mulatto, abliet you can still tell.
>>217447027THE FUCK IS LYONEL DOING
>>217449548But he fulfilled his oath that the point, he isn't beholden to it after he's rezzed
>>217449515If Westeros is the size of South America, how would hedge knights ever be able to prove they were knighted?They travel more than a few leagues for their next job and no one will know who they are.
>>217449557no actually the honourable thing to do would be to follow their liege lord
>>217449500my post doesn't contest that point. I'm saying GRRM is a non-factor and any showrunner has to basically do his job for him. if you read F&B and can't tell how much work it needs that's just you failing to recognize the problems.
>>217449582he rejoined
>>217449347Emilia actually had boobs and a butt so is better
Why does he wear the mask?
>>217449174No, the opposite. He denied it, because that would make Stannis the rightful king. Renly's claim was "I'd be better at it".
>>217449347>>217449420 >>217449539 >>217449623fucking bot
>>217449444>the resurrected can't reproduceJon isn’t dead his consciousness transferred into Ghost
>>217449420anyone have the webm of Drogo doggying Dany
Honestly if you have a horse, a sword and a shield and promise to follow the rules, then who cares if you have been knighted?Being able to afford those things is already the greatest barrier of entry that most peasants could never pass.
>>217449587That's kinda the point but if you have no horse no sword no armour and more importantly no skill then you can kick bricks. Anyone can lie about being a knight go ahead and prove you are one you stupid dung eating peasant.
>>217449598What's even the point of F&B as a source when Ryan and Sara just claim that it was written as a sexist maester's account of what happened?
>>217449459To this day that one scene is almost as bad as every change made by D&D. It took them 3 seasons to start really getting stupid and it took Ryan less than 1.
>>217449652But what kind of women would fuck a dog?
>>217449638I'm a bot for saying I liked the adult better? Kek never changed /tv/
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>>217449625>fox maskProbably from House Florent, so just trying to hide his massive ears.
>>217449668lol they really claim that? top fucking kek, it's the unabashedly pro-cunt book in the series yet.
>>217449682thats better thanks anon
>>217449603When? Certainly not I the books as he's still dead, and what did he do in the show? Hang a bunch of traitors and fuck right off, I never saw him reciting the vows again idk maybe I missed something those later seasons are total shit so maybe I did.
>>217449591That is completely false. Helping a Usurper is not honorable in any sense in Westeros unless said Usurper is rebelling against a monarch that has broken the feudal contract. Even then as we see with the loyalists during the Rebellion, that's still up for debate. The entire Stormlands just betraying Roberts memory is insane bullshit that only occured because the rest of the lore surrounding them hadn't been written yet.
>>217449668that's GRRM's own framing for it. >What's even the point of F&BGRRM needed an excuse not to finish ASoIaF silly
>>217449717in season 8 he rejoins the night's watch in the end as punishment for killing dany
>>217449459Are you talking about Rhaenys and the Green coronation? I don’t think he was responsible for that it was the other guy who left after S1.
>>217449695>Rather than a novel, Fire & Blood takes the form of a scholarly treatise about the Targaryen dynasty written by a historian within the world of A Song of Ice and Fire, Archmaester Gyldayn.[9][10][11] Gyldayn cites a variety of fictional primary sources for the historical events he describes, whose accounts sometimes conflict with each other, reflecting medieval methods of historiography and thus making Gyldayn an unreliable narrator from the reader's perspective.[12][13]retard
Jaehaerys will always be my favorite character.
>>217447487Just enough to remind you that it's not fantasy. Some random chinks too wandered in.
>>217449587It was quite explicitly stated that it's alright as long as someone can vouch for you.
>>217449756nice quoting of ryan and sara, little faggotyou upset i'm right?
>>217449759Jaehaerys died wanting to see her sagain
>>217449756>pointlessly quoting WikipediaWhat an odd response.
>>217449568he's feeling himself, he's in his own lane
>>217449794He wanted to call her a whore again with his last breath.
>>217449719Both Renly and Stannis are usurpers. Joffrey was acknowledged as Robert’s and was the anointed king, They are claimants. It would not be betraying Robert’s memory to follow his other brother who is their liege lord and not a heretic I don’t know what your point is there.
>>217449785the citations are reviews of the book anon.
>>217449837that they arenot really relevant to ryan and sara or my point but at least you can copy/paste.
>>217449587good luck trying to pass yourself as a knight in KingsLanding
>>217449360The fact of the matter is that the best and worst episodes of the series were written by the same person- Sara Hess.The whole story is just fundamentally flawed because the main characters are Daemon, Rhaenyra, and Alicent, but they don't actually do anything after the war starts. In the books, Rhaenyra's an entitled, spoiled obese princess demanding people win her war for her. In the show, she's an indecisive bitch who said that the war started when Lucerys died, but also can't we just talk it out PLEASE? Daemon doesn't do anything until he kills Aemond in a sick murder-suicide, so instead we'll have him meander around Harrenhall having spooky dreams.The Dance of the Dragons just wasn't written in F&B to be made in the way that the tv show wanted to present it.
>>217449759https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_Nesle_affairPretty much the same
>>217449827based
>>217449759What the fuck was her problem?
>>217447403literally me ongod
>>217449695>unabashedly pro-cunt book in the series yet.That's true.Only one to have a maester call Rhaenyra a queen or argue for the rights of a woman to inherit over a brother.Funny that's it's still too sexist for them.
>>217449815F&B is an unreliable narrator work anon. it's not disputable and GRRM intended as much before there was a show.but even if it were 100% factual the fact remains that you couldn't just film it and have a viable show because its not detailed enough.
>>217449360No. Most of S2 sucks because even the non-filler stuff is poorly done and completely fucks up the story.
>>217449851>kettleblack
looks like everybody online is mostly talking about dunk pooping
>>217449759women, am I right?
>>217449882F&B is full of weird little retcons too.>>217449902Yup. Now if anyone were disagreeing with any of that.
the guy that played the baratheon looked like an elongated peter dinklage
>>217449836No they are not. Stannis knows for a fact that Joffrey is the usurper, a bastard of no Baratheon blood who holds the throne because of deceit. That is by definition not usurpation because Joffrey's entire placement on the throne is based on a lie. The difference here is that Stannis has this reason for his usurpation, if they didn't believe it and stayed loyal to King Joffrey, that would be one thing, joining his other brother, who clearly doesn't even believe something like that, and who only believes he should potentially be killing and/or disinheriting the legendary ROBERT BARATHEON's children is absolute insanity after they bled for him for like 3 years straight. It is absolutely a betrayal of their oaths to not follow the succession that is in their minds the law of God's and Men in favor of his brothers ego just because he happens to be their Lord. Either they believe the children are legitimate and they are betraying their oaths by not upholding Joffreys succession, or they know Stannis is right, and he is the legitimate King, and they are betraying their oaths by not upholding his succession to the Throne.
>>217449850thanks for the concession you fucking retard.>Ryan and Sara just claim that it was written as a sexist maester's account of what happened?^^^ the idea that this was a "claim" is incorrectyou haven't read the book
>>217449859>Rhaenyra's an entitled, spoiled obese princess demanding people win her war for her.Ok but this is also just your headcanon and interpretation, Rhaenyra was acknowledged as heir and had just been usurped by her brother. She was a middle aged woman who had six children so obviously she’ll be a bit chubby.
>>217449906that doesn't count
>>217449360season 2 sucked ass. i knew shit was grim when they made blood and cheese, one of the most insane and disturbing things in the asoif universe, and made it lame, gay, and forgettable. say what you will about dumb and dumber, but they would have nailed that moment and made it memorable television.
>>217449933Thats sad. I thought the episode was good (apart from the shitting). Hope they dont fuck it up. As someone the same height as Duncan hitting his head a lot and always being hungry is something i relate to
>>217449741Either way the showrunner is responsible and it was a pants on head retarded scene, not that it happened but that it's never mentioned again and all of season 2 is about winning or losing the small folks when they should all be onside with the greens after that shit and it's never mentioned or brought up. That's the problem, it's fucking stupid.
>>217449939>Now if anyone were disagreeing with any of that.>What's even the point of F&B as a source when Ryan and Sara just claim that it was written as a sexist maester's account of what happened?it's not a "claim" and I was demonstrating that.
>>217449851Ser Robert Strong gets appointed to the fucking Kingsguard, and it doesn't bother anyone that they haven't heard about anyone alive from the house Strong for a long time now. It's not like house Strong is some obscure house from the boonies with no historical relevance either.
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>>217449956>^^^ the idea that this was a "claim" is incorrect>>217449695>lol they really claim that? top fucking kek, it's the unabashedly pro-cunt book in the series yet.I get you're Indian but maybe you should read what's actually being mockedI'll make it easy for you, Raj.Is it:A) the book is incorrectorB) the book is sexistLook at the post and think carefully over your curry while you formulate your ESL response lol
>>217449954is that why i liked him?
Can't wait for more gay sex between Rhaenyra and the Worm in season 3
>>217449249I am pretty sure GRRM has a scat fetish
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>>217449737Who cares? S8 was the worst of them all, I'm any case iirc Jon fucks off beyond the wall anyway, I was talking about actual plot relevant shit not epilogues, which are also stupid.
>>217449984I think you saw anons laughing at Ryan and Sara and somehow interpreted it as them laughing at and/or arguing with you.
>>217449988that's cause they all know it's gregor but they don't want to get Oberyn'd
>>217449902Using the unreliable narrator as an excuse was fine when filling up blanks like the reason for the fallout between Rhaenyra and Criston, but it's completely retarded to use it to justify Alicent wanting to kill her sons and run away with Rhaenyra when every other line out of the few pieces of dialogue F&B gives her is "I fucking hate Rhaenyra's whore ass and her bastards"
>>217450010He has a lot of fetishes, and a lot of them involve children, or whores.
>>217449969>one of the most insane and disturbing things in the asoif universechrist you're easy to impressthere's more disturbing stuff in The Bone Temple
>>217450018>I'm any casewe're talking about the show, i corrected you on a point. chill out, anon. targs are gone.
>>217449955>That is by definition not usurpation because Joffrey's entire placement on the throne is based on a lie. No, Robert acknowledged Joffrey as his son, and he was anointed as king. Stannis is usurping his him. You may think he’s justified in doing so but that doesn’t make it any less of a usurpation. The line of succession is that Joffrey should be king, both Stannis and Renly are going against that.
>>217449902>F&B is an unreliable narrator work anon.No it's not, at least not in the way you suggest it is.The book at some points VERY DELIBERATELY tells the reader when an upcoming part of Fire & Blood will be unreliable. For example when the story reaches Criston's defection to the Greens, the narrator beats you over the head with a warning: conflicting accounts of people who weren't all really there, private event without the public eye, etc. Impossible to know for sure which version is the real one. Parts like this are the actual unreliable pieces of the narrative and whenever they occur the narrator warns the reader quite clearly about it, but they're the exception not the rule. The rest of the text is clearly meant to be authoritative unless it explicitly indicates ambiguity.GRRM says as much in his blog, where he just cites parts of F&B directly as the 'true version' in comparison to HOTD's fanfic shit.
>>217450019their criticism was incorrectit suggests that IF they read F&B they were too illiterate to understand what the fuck they were reading. embarrassing.
>>217448720Here's your new Lara Croft, bro
>>217450088No, he gave them outlines, some as long as just one paragraph.
>>217450044>targs are gone.Tick tock.
>>217450101At least it's a human?
>>217450112Not a male line Targaryen
>>217450088>12 unpublished Dunk and Egg storiesWhat the fuck?
>>217450106Us Dunkers are sure as shit going to have a better series than HOTD
>>217450075>my headcanon is correcthence the seething at the showrunners, and the need to attack them for describing the book accurately. its like they're changing YOUR story. thanks this was interesting. anyway the book is shit and the negative reviews of it were accurate. we have HBO to thank that there was even gave us one good season.
>>217450106>some as long as just one paragraph.Source?
>>217447027> hour long pointless dance sceneMeanwhile, the only clips we get of Ser Arlen are jarring quicks cuts of him smacking around Dunk like something out of a Three Stooges movie and lets not even get into the scene of Dunk literally taking a shit...It's clear that Gurm's contract with HBO allows them to do whatever the fuck they want with his works.
>>217450088checkedSo this is where his time went when he should be finishing Winds and Dream lel.
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>>217450069You're being retarded on purpose. Robert acknowledging Joffrey as his son when he didn't know he was a bastard is irrelevant in a society that bases claims off blood and legitimate marriage. Otherwise Edric Storm could have pressed his claim and no one would be able to complain about Daemons. The Line of succession is that Joffrey is a fucking bastard, so Stannis is King, or he isn't a bastard, so Joffrey is King, the Stormlords picking Renly outside of those two choices is naked and absolute treason. Have a good day and try this shit posting post-modern logic nonsense with some other fool, I'm as tired of your stupid shit as whatever whore pushed you out of her ass.
>>217450131Blackfyre's are the real targs
>>217450153Literally this same interview, if you read past the deceptive headline.>Even though we don’t have the ins and outs of every story, we know canonically the major beats of Dunk and Egg throughout their lives. So we wouldn’t necessarily run into the same trouble as the flagship did. And George has outlined 12 more of these stories that he’s shared with me. These stories take them all the way through their lives. Some of these are just a paragraph, but they give you a sense of where they’re going to go and the people who come back in and out of the story.
>>217450088>12 DnE storiesOne of them better be the time he knocked up a Tarth princess...
>>217450044And you were wrong to do so, I was talking about the show as well seeing as Jon is still dead in the books. Him "rejoining" the watch off screen in the show is pointless and not relevant. As I said one of the interesting things the show pointed out is, once Jon is rezzed his oath is defunct.
>>217450151NTA but you're a very dishonest bitch.
>>217450174fax
>>217450151Nobody mentioned any headcanons. I am telling you exactly what happens in the book Fire & Blood: nearly everything is presented authoritatively as simple truth, however when there is an event GRRM wants you to be unsure about then he pointedly starts narrating about how witnesses disagree or nobody really saw the truth, etc. Like Criston's defection - that is one of those intentionally unreliable events and GRRM intended it as such.But the rest is written to be broady credible and GRRM even says as much in his blog. Just open the book and read the pdf to see for yourself. Funnily enough most fans also treat the narrative of F&B as broadly credible whenever it suits their preferences - for example you'll struggle to find anyone complaining about the Daemon/Aemond duel at God's Eye or call it unverifiable nonsense (even though it was above the clouds and nobody could've seen it. Do you know why they don't call it unreliable? Because everyone thinks it's cool. But once the text goes against people's tastes or makes one of their preferred characters do a bad thing suddenly it's "unreliable propaganda ):" even when the text doesn't allude to any biases from Eustace or Mushroom. I can forgive online retards like you for making the mistake, but HBO showrunners doing this fanfic "muh unreliable propaganda" nonsense to such a degree is pathetic.
>>217447572>Why is Lyonel so peculiar?Bad writing. The Lyonel Baratheon in the book is a hard partying hard fighting guy like his descendant Robert. I don't mind his inclusion in the show as he plays a part later in the story but he was badly written/directed and just kinda slouches around doing nothing.
>>217450257Stop arguing with him, he's shitposting because he can't get attention with a unique, genuine, or creative thought.
>>217450171I’m not using post-modern logic, you’re just a Stannisbro who is being a bit retarded. Robert never denounced Joffrey as a bastard and he is the anointed king, that is clear cut. Stannis is going off what he believes and is still usurping what is the anointed king. Just because he usurped for good reasons doesn’t mean he wasn’t still usurping.
