Fossoway cider > Arbor wine edition
stop trying to do fossoway cider a thing, it's not going to happen
I went to the store and bought Cider just becase of raymun
>>217750136Cidersippers run this gen
first for my wife
I know I already posted this last thread, but I genuinely, GENUINELY, HATE!!!!!!! that they made Velaryons black for NO GOOD apparent reason. Just messed all of Valyria's eugenical lore up because of DEI.I am also not racist btw, just very autistic about UNNECESSARY lore discrepancies in my favorite pieces of media.And also the fact that GRRM would rather continue to work on a show with BLACK FUCKING VELARYONS instead of FINISHING HIS GODDAMN FUCKING BOOKS
Total Targ Annihilation
>How'd you do it, Snow? Sword through your aunt's heart. Quick one. Lucky for you. Mine was my own daughter before the Battle of in the Ice. My firewitch told me to burn her alive so I'd win, and leave that Bolton's corpse in the mud. She was screaming at me, this dumb Baratheon brat, thinking she could end her father's campaign for the Throne with a single scream from her throat. I had her tied to a stake. Gods, I was a good father then. Caved in her hopes. Probably shattered every dream she had. Tied her to a stake, flaming torch in the air. Right before I brought it down she screamed, "PLEASE FATHER" They never tell you how they all smell like rendered horsefat when they burn. They don't put that part in the songs. Stupid girl. Now the Baratheons will die out like every other house. She could have lingered in exile with the smart girls and today her Northern husband would be pumping her full of my grandsons, her daughters would be married off to wildlings, and she'd be waking three times in the night to vomit into a bowl pregnant with the next one.
>>217750165>I am also not racist btwur post is literally subtextually screaming "I HATE NIGGERS I HATE NIGGERS AAARRRGGGHHHG" tho
>>217750165I hate they couldn't give them more Valyrian looking wigs because not showing their natural hair is offensive to blacks.Meanwhile, little Egg actor shaved his head like nothing for the role.
TAOOBA
Before you go further in this thread why not have youself a nice helping of Fossoway Cidar
>>217750136Fossoway general.Fossoway board.Fossoway website.Deal with it, targshit.
ATTENTIONall blackedfyres and tarfags will kneel beneath the apple
this episode was sponsored by draftkings
'Ate Lannisters'Ate Targs (not racist, just don't like 'em)'Ate FreysLuv the NorfLuv the StagSimple as
>>217750210I could go for a nice cold fossy
This show makes no fucking sense. Why does Duncan, the largest knight, not simply eat the other knights?
>>217750165It's okay to be racist, anon. But yes, you are correct.
>>217750165>Valyria was known for racial purity because of their dragon blood>literally until the point that everyone there had silvergold hair and violet eyes, because everyone had the same sibling ancestors>brothers wed sisters were the norm >and if that wasnt possible for some reason, then cousins wed cousins>Targs and Velaryons are quite literally cousin houses>in fact it was heavily implied that it was all this inbreeding that made Targs so famously mentally unstable in the 1st place>HOTD casting team ignored this fact and just shoehorned in black actors into their eugenic society>"okay, maybe we can suspend disbelief if Valyrians can somehow just randomly birth both lightskinned and darkskinned Valyrians with the same silvergold hair and violet eyes, and they're all considered the same because magic fantasy colorblind world etc etc">Rhaenyra has children with Laenor Velaryon in the show>they come out as mullattosYeah. I too, really dont know what the HOTD producers were trying to do here.
>>217750332they give him heartburn
>>217750332That's only the strategy of the Baratheon chap
>>217750143you have to buy the extra dry stuff, its mighty delicious without all that sweetnesss
>>217750143The taste of cider really varies wildly based on what you buy
>>217750165>just very autistic about UNNECESSARY lore discrepancies in my favorite pieces of mediaim not autistic and even i was kinda peeved about this change. turned me off the show entirely.like, if they really wanted to put in black actors, just put in a ton of side characters from Sothoryos (in-universe Africa) or something. The F&B books were written like a one-note cursory historical account of that time anyways.Who's to say that the court of Kings Landing during the Dance of Dragons wasnt filled with Sothoryosian people?Instead they just went and make Velaryons black. It's just such a lazy, uninspired change. There were much smarter ways to cast more black people into the show than whatever they did.
>>217750343>Yeah. I too, really dont know what the HOTD producers were trying to do here.They were doing propaganda.
>>217750165desu it really drove home Rhaenyra's unfaithfulnesswhat I don't understand is why Corlys and Rhaenys were ok with it
>>217750332that's his ult retard, are you new to asoiaf? every fighter has an ult they can only use once like Dayne's "Howland Reed backstab" or Jaime's "losing his hand for saving the maiden fair" or Selmy's "AAAA i have no armor in this small confined space filled with men with daggers" or Daemon Blackfyre's famous "Brynden i have defeated Corbray and have left myself open for fatal range attacks, let us parley" ult
>>217750165I only needed to see pics like this to know never to watch the show. Same with rangs of power. How could you even sit through it with a straight face? Why would you?
>>217750709>the viserys "heh, sweet sister, if you kill me I will merely metamorphise into 12 different people" ult
>>217750736The dragon fights were pretty neat
>>217750343>Yeah. I too, really dont know what the HOTD producers were trying to do here.just diversity for diversity's sake. there was no thinking involved here. a tasteless change from execs wanting to fill WEF/Epstein quotas.
>>217750403>waits until they're done fucking his wife and jumps out of the closet and devours them when they're taking a postcoital napWhy are Baratheons like this?
Americans and Brits be like: Uh, this fantasy world needs to reflect Detroit and Birmingham. Also, we stand with Israel.
>>217750303This fucking guy looks way too much like Louis from Revenge of the Nerds
>>217750858kek
>Don't fucking scream at me you dumbfuck you>look at you with your stupid crown, fucking 48% body fat>and you, you scrawny albino one eyed bastard>fuck you guys
>>217747110Repeating request from last thread, Can someone do an edit where it's Ryan condal on the left and fire and blood on the right
Anus Targaryen
>>217750210I could go for a nice cold Fidar, Cheers!
>>217751011(You)
can someone tell me if GoT/HoTD/AKo7K all share the same "cinematic universe"?or are they all just parallel universes to each other based on the books? like Joker (2019) is to The Dark Knight trilogy this affects whether i will watch dunk btw, because if it shares a universe with hotdick i will not watch it (for the same reasons as >>217750165)
>>217751011Hugh Jaenys, first of his name.
>>217751080we don't know you dumb faggot
>>217751080Not sure, but Blackfyres are mentioned in Dunk while they were practically non-existent in Thrones.There was supposed to be an entire subplot of (F)A(k)egon reaching Westeros to conquer them before Dany in the books, who is also heavily implied to be a secret Blackfyre, but he didn't exist in the Thrones show.I guess you can say there's a nonzero % chance Dunk is its own thing, separate from the other 2 shows.And personally I hope it is, it has a very comfy change of tone from the other 2 so far. Feels like we're in The Shire of Martin's world compared to the grimdark premises of the other 2 shows, with an MC that's truly noble and good instead the usual "muh edgy morally grey antihero" types.
>>217751011
>>217751080Why do you retards always ask stupid questions that require so much effort to answer when you don’t even care about the answer anyway?
>>217751080It's a good show and Martin thinks its his best adapted work so far (he hates Hord with passion) and that's all you need to know.
TOTAL TARGSHIT DEATHhttps://voca.ro/17SPVGXgo5GZ
what the fuck even happens in Ulthos, Thousand Islands, Mossovy, southern Sothoryos and the Conquerors' islands?
>>217751267Hotd*
>>217751115>>217751238i care, you assholes. you could just not reply if you were going to be such absolute faggots about it.>>217751187thanks, guess i'll check it out then.>>217751267>>217751275>he hates Hotd with passionwhy?
>>217751339The showrunner cut several characters from the show and promised Martin that he'll find a way to add them later, only to never follow up on that promise and started ignoring him. He said working with him is abysmal which is something he never even said for D&D. He then went on to make a blogpost about why HOTD is fumbling, spoiled that one of the characters will have a unceremonius, differnet from the book death in S3, and apparently that blog post was only 1 out of 6-8 of his planned posts slamming HOTD.
>>217751339>why?they completely fucked it up
>>217751404>characters will have a unceremonius, differnet from the book death in S3what was this again?
Pick a better OP image next time. You know, maybe something from the shows.
>>217751490Helaena.According to Martin she kills herself for no reason in S3.>In the book, Blood and Cheese (the assassins) makes her choose between her two sons>Helaena chooses to give her life at first (in the show, they made her offer her "necklace" which is fucking stupid)>B&C says they're gonna kill them both if she doesn't choose>Helaena chooses the baby Maelor>B&C troll her and decapitate Jaehaerys (the older son) instead>After this Helaena becomes traumatized and couldn't bear to look at Maelor anymore since she "chose" to have him killed>gives the baby Maelor to Rickard Thorne for safekeeping>Maelor gets killed on the road>Helaena receives the news>Unable to bear the guilt anymore, she kills herself>The population of KL goes into uproar because they loved Queen Helaena>they raid the Dragonpit and slaughter at least 5 dragons (including Rhaenyra's dragon Syrax)Basically, since baby Maelor doesn't exist anymore there's nothing to drive Helaena to suicide. And since they made Helaena an autistic greenseer with no connection to the smallfolk, there's no way KL would go to riot in the show verse. Which is one of the biggest contributions to the extinction of dragons. Or this is how Martin justifies cutting out a baby whos barely even a character from the story affects so many events down the line (the butterfly effect)
>>217751404>He said working with him is abysmal which is something he never even said for D&DThis is how we know that GoT endings were GFFM's endings. I am so glad this cocksucker is seething.
>>217751602There are some people say Jaehaera's death could be the reason behind Helaena's suicide in S3.This is retarded. Jaehaera needs to survive the war, she is the "last (wo)man standing" of the greens. There is a beautiful irony behind this since they joined the war on Aegon II's side because Rhaenyra is a woman, but now the last of Aegon II's heir is a little girl and they end up fighting for her.If Jaehaera is dead, that means Dance is a decisive black victory. The end of the war is supposed to be a compromise where both sides use the remaining kids as bargaining chips: Aegon the Younger for Blacks and Jaehaera for Greens. The war ends with the two getting married and Aegon III rising as Aegon II's heir (instead of Rhaenyra's). Blacks get a political victory by instating Rhaenyra's heir as king but greens get a cultural victory by having blacks dismiss Rhaenyra as the legal ruler.
>>217750970can't believe fire and blood 2 leaked
deadest general
>during their 283 year rule over Westeros the Targaryen dynasty was involved in 9 civil wars or rebellions>that is one civil war or rebellion every 31,4 years>During their 69 year rule in England the house of Normandy were involved in a minimum of 21 civil wars and rebellions>that is one civil war or rebellion every 3,2 yearsThe numbers really do speak for themselves as to the violent nature of medieval politics.
>>217751339>why?Do u even need an explanation? Just look at this bullshit >>217750165and like so many other anons ITT have already pointed out >>217750203 >>217750343 >>217750462 >>217750480 >>217750904 >>217750913, if they're already making terrible casting decisions based more on lazy & forced diversity agitprop from the very getgo, what makes you think they give a fuck about the story?They just want to shove niggers in our faces man. GRRM may be a shitlib himself, but at least he genuinely cares about his characters and about writing a coherently sound narrative. Hollywood just wants to demoralize us with globohomo, and they don't even have the courtesy to make the water sweet before they boil us in it. They just want us goyim boiled, period.>inb4 go back to /pol/This is all literally in the Epstein Files btw. It's not even a conspiracy anymore. HotD is basically just another avenue of subversion by Hollyjews.
starting to think people don't like the targaryens no more bros
>>217751901It's hard to take bro serious when he looks like a slovenly history undergrad.Do they not have scissors in the reach?
>>217751800To be fair to Targs most of the civil wars happened after they got their dragons wiped out. The 4 blackfyre rebellions (not counting John the Fiddler case), peake uprising, Robert's rebellion...When they had dragons the only major civil war was Dance. Maegor's reign can barely be called a civil war since Aegon the Uncrowned's army surrenders in the first battle after he gets smoked by Balerion. Then Maegor gets assraped by the Iron Throne before he can even engage in field battle with Jaehaerys
>>217750165>when you realize Aegon the First and his sisters' mother is a Velaryon
>>217752021Maegor's fall is so anticlimactic its like Gurm specifically did not want that shit adapted into TV
>>217751733>If Jaehaera is dead, that means Dance is a decisive black victoryso it fits the exactly how the showrunners want the dance to be portrayed
>>217751267>Martin thinks its his best adapted work so far and that's all you need to know.Imagine still this much of a GFFM bootlicker in 2026
>>217752138>GFFMGhanan Female French Male?
I usually don’t like Targgers, but the ones in this show seem alright. Maybe it’s all the Westerosi blood they have, or the lack of Dragons.
>>217752040by hotd logic every targ should be a mutt kekit's just so stupid manabsolutely lorebreaking change and they did it thoughtlessly anyways
>>217752138>>217752154GEp FStein Fuck MNiggas
>>217752040Have you read Facts Concerning the Late Arthur Jermyn and His Family by HP Lovecraft?Something like that, but with a brindled woman from darkest Sothyros, must have happened to the Velaryons in the generations between Alyssa and Corlys Velaryon.
>>217751404>apparently that blog post was only 1 out of 6-8 of his planned posts slamming HOTD.Even in his fucking rants he fails to honor his writing commitments
>>217751938Look, HBO (and the world in general) is embarrassed by history and fantasy. That's why they refuse to have decent props, armor, weapons, clothing, hair, make-up etc. They can't take anything seriously that isn't just their modern-day life. Take a look at this image and compare to HBO slop.
>>217751733Does it really matter when Peake kills Jaehaera like 10 minutes after the wedding?
>>217752331HAHAHAHAHA imagine being this assmad that someone shits on Ryan Johnson of fantasy literature.
>Martin is in the Epstein files
>>217752475Was he offered a sassy red-headed woman and a meat pie?
>>217752490He had carnal relations with a underaged, if jellied, eel and roasted piglets swimming in butter.For the diddyparties he covered himself head to to in a thick creamy stew.Needless to say the pink mast was mightily erect.
>>217752475>You hear what she said? You're gonna die, burn slowly in aegony and everyone's gonna be happy about because you get rekt like a chump lmao
>>217752546good joke but I ruined it by responding to other anon. I ruined it again
>>217751003anyone?
>House of the Dragon released>/tv/ creaming their pants over it even after the horrifically bad GoT ending>anons say "D&D aren't involved with HotD, at the very least it will give us 4 good seasons>season 2 of HotD complete trash>/tv/ moves onto newest ASOIAF slopSAD
so is aegon's conquest all but confirmed as the next product?
>>217750461You think so? I feel like cider only comes in two types>Soda>Wine
Can’t Toss the Foss
>>217752575
>>217752586s1 was garbage too. The redditors in this general only liked it because germ told them to, same as why they like this latest lolrandomshitting garbage
>>217752643thank you
>>217752643beautiful
>>217752490Nah, someone just quoted a Tyrion line in a mail to Epstein.
>>217750107Why does Knight of the seven kingdoms not have an opening sequence yet? I can't find it.
>>217752546>Aeggon died in aegony after trying to egg on some eggsI will be here all night.
>>217752586>ZOMGZ LETS HAVE MORE FUCKING ADAPTATIONS EVEN FOR STORIES THAT DONT HAVE SOURCE MATERIALCase in point :>>217752617
>>217752647S1had Paddy C to singlehandedly elevate it to skyhigh levels of kino. S1 Daemon was based too.
does she go in this season or the next season? and will the faggot and dyke showrunners show her getting chomped by sunfyre?
One Egg is forty Eggs?
>>217752617fuck offstop wishing for george to involve himself in more pointless tv projectshe needs to finish his fucking book first ffslike it's literally been 15 FUCKING YEARS since the last bookA Dance with Dragons can literally get a driver's fucking license if it were a human
>>217752798>THAT DONT HAVE SOURCE MATERIALyou don't need everything written by martin.
>>217752021>When they had dragons the only major civil war was the one where they nearly wiped themselves out and scarred the entire realmThat’s not much of a flex, anon. And as you said, the only reason there weren’t at least two majorly destructive civil wars was that some good soul had shanked Maegor on the throne before he could start one. That would be two civil wars between the same family in a century, which is pretty absurd. Add the Blackfyre nonsense afterwards and it’s not hard to see why their subjects would be seething.
>>217750136
>>217752829Funny that, because the only ASOIAF telemedia that's actually good are the ones that are most faithful to his books. GOT S1-4, and now AKO7K.Everything else (GOT S5-8, HOTD) just goes to shit because modern Hollywood cant write for fucking shit these days.
>>217752798It's ok. Gurm has like 3 greasy napkins with notes, that should allow the next chump and his team of rich liberal lesbians to churn out about 20 hours of content.
>>217752798>STORIES THAT DONT HAVE SOURCE MATERIAL?Fire & Blood exists and chronicles everything up to Aegon III's regency. Not that I want [current year] cretins to touch it further.
>>217752889Eh you're right. I forgot F&B had 2 books, always mistakenly thought the series was just one book (F&B II) ever since HOTD got adapted.
>>217751800Is it really violent medieval politics or it's just resistant to the ruling family? Both Targaryen and Normandy came from outside the realm the rule
>>217752586And we are going to do it again and again and again for the next 20 years at the very least.
>>217752867>and now AKO7K.You retards said the exact same thing about HOTD s1. You like whatever gum tells you to like, and he tells you to like the shows when the producers pretending to give a shit about his opinion, that's all 'book accuracy' is. GoT was making major changes in s1.
>>217752889To be fair... F&B does not present itself as easy to adapt as ASOIAF and D&E since it only has like 5 scenes with dialogue for the entire 20 year period that the Dance covers.And it doesn't help that it shoots its load way too early and that after Blood and Cheese/Aegon's crippling it's just the main characters dicking around waiting for their eventual deaths while the lads win the entire war offscreen.
What the fuck even happened at Summerhall?
>>217752972BBQ with some few mishaps here and there.
>>217752939Don't lump me in with the same retards who loved HOTD. I've always hated it from the start ever since they revealed the black Velaryons.I came into AKO7K with huge skepticism, but instead found myself pleasantly surprised. The series so far has been refreshingly comfy, and feels like a cozy mid-2000s BBC show they air on weekday midnights. Of course, they can always butcher it any time, but until they do I'll keep watching it.
>>217752972targ shit and his demon spawn getting what they deserve.
>>217752972I wouldnt worry about it
I thought Dunk was supposed to punch Aerion once. Instead he unleashed a full combo of punches, grabs and kicks. Stun locked his ass
I don't even know what Summer hall is.
>>217752972Egg tried to fulfill the Azor Ahai prophecy and killed most of his family because of it. The same way his great-grandson Rhaegar tried to do the same with Lyanna and got the Targs nearly genocided by a very jealous Bobby B in his physical prime.At this point, trying to bring forth Azor Ahai has unironically killed more Targs than the Others ever did lol
....semoc eH
>>217753049Maybe the real Azor Ahai was the friends we made along the way
>>217752972summoned a demon or a god instead of hatching eggs
Funny to think Robert Prime would canonically no diff literally every character in both of the prequel shows.
>>217753027nothing to concern yourself with, nothing happened at summerhall worth mentioning
>>217752377I just explained why it matters speedreading faggot
>>217753049nope, egg was actually trying to resurrect dragons at summerhall, not bring forth azor ahai. rhaegar was the one who was obsessed with azor ahai tho, and he got absolutely btfo'd for doing so, so ur right on that one. you must've confused them both>>217753027it's basically the events of the final season for dunk&egg, most probably. dunk and egg get burned to death in summerhall because he tried to hatch dragonsiirc martin has said before in one of his blogs that if he does finish writing asoiaf, he'll be writing dunk&egg novellas until he dies. and if he manages to reach all the way till summerhall, he'll die a happy man or something i think.
>>217751602>>Maelor gets killed on the roadI'm not sure I could have handled seeing that go down, it was savage enough in the book
>>217750165That quite literally wouldn't be happening if people like you would just admit that you really are racist.
>>217753100The narrative would have you believe that Jaime and Arthur, who have a combined record of 1 battle fought against armored knights between the two of them, would beat Robert because they have superior speed and because they won a lot of jousting tournaments.
>>217753131Anon, Egg believed that resurrecting dragons IS the first step to fulfilling the Azor Ahai prophecy. Did you speedread that part on F&B? They're not exclusionary motives.
>>217753131I choose to believe its a fakeout and dunk and egg escaped and hit the road as hedge knights living out their days getting into wacky adventures, and since its never getting to summerhall in book or show no-one can convince me otherwise
>>217753166Egg's reign is not covered on F&B...
>>217753100Honestly Robert Prime was fucking Superman with the way Martin described him. 6'6, pure muscle, extremely athletic, wielded his giant warhammer like it was a pillow. Even the Mountain was implied to be wary of him, despite being larger. He was basically Guts from Berserk or LeBron James in real life, big, but most importantly also extremely agile.Robert Prime was basically a character with maxed STR and DEX. The Mountain only maxed his STR, whereas famous swordsmen like Barristan/Arthur Dayne/Jaime only maxed their DEX.Rhaegar was a retard for thinking he could ever take Robert.
>>217753206>The Mountain only maxed his STRfucking wiki fag, the mountain was scary fast, he wasn't slow in the least the mountain maxed every physical stat
>>217753190You're right. It was in the original series. Honestly there so many damn fucking books I got them all mixed up, it's been awhile since I've read them all.
>>217752930>And we are going to do it again and again and again for the next 20 years at the very least.SAD
>>217753224Do you not know what maxed means? Mountain was fast, yes, but not as fast as Robert. If 10 was the max for each stat, Robert is like 10 for both. Mountain has 10 STR but probably only 7-8 DEX.
Jaime? Soloes them all.
SER ARLAN'S BIG AHH DIH
>>217753100well it's a forgone conclusion, most of the top tier fighters use swords, Robert uses a hammer and is stronger than most of the top fighters and almost as fast as them IN FUCKING PLATE.Jaime, Selmy, Dayne, Blackfyre, Aemon, will fuck Robert up but they are not walking out of a duel with prime fully kitted Robert, even with their magical swords.Robert was strong as fuck, faster than a guy his size and stength should be while in plate with a weapon made for killing men in armor
>>217753224Mountain was fast but his feats of speed more have to do with him being that fast at that size, he's not even faster than Sandor or really near the speeds of any of the top fighters
>>217753100it's hard to say. until gurm dies before writing more d&e novellas, we cant say for sure.for all we know dunk could turn out to be an extremely formidable fighter in his prime. he's taller than robert and he's an ancestor of brienne, who's also one of the best fighters in the realm in her time.
>>217753206>Rhaegar was a retard for thinking he could ever take Robert.Rhaegar was a fool yes but he was trained by the some of the best fighters and by all their accounts Rhaegar was fucking good, Robert was just better in pretty much every way, though Rhaegar deserves some credit, he still tried to duel the strongest mf in the verse and did wound him at the very least
>>217753285fair enough
>>217753224oberyn kind of made ser gregor his bitch though till the end of the fight, mountain is fast but he's not beating the likes of prime Jaime or Criston Cole or DaemonB or Dayne
>>217753305>Rhaegar was fucking good, Robert was just better in pretty much every wayRhaegar doesn't even win the point for best drip
>>217753341oberyn was top tier he doesn't get included in lists of great fighters because he lost the only fight we see with him on the page.
>>217753355Cersei and Lyanna would rather fuck Rhaegar than Robert despite Robert being a 10/10 in every way, so Rhaegar definitely has him beat there.
>>217753380true i guess rhaegar wins one point
>>217753377>oberyn was top tier he doesn't get included in lists of great fighters because he lost the only fight we see with him on the page.sadly really true but also it's hard to make an argument that Oberyn can beat people who you would commonly find in the top tier, because they are all as fast as him so he would not have the same advantage he had against the mountain, but oberyn is said to be super versatile and plans his fights accordingly, mf would probably use a trick and pull out a bow and werewood arrows mid fight with daemon blackfyre lol
>>217750165I hate the Velaryon = Black change because it robbed us of prime gooning material
>>217753380having a good face is everything...even in a fantasyland like westeros....prime robert was bigger and stronger and fitter, but he had a gaunt, above average face at bestmeanwhile rhaegar was literally cited to be one of the most handsomest man to have ever lived.face always wins bros...grrm is such a secretly blackpill-coded writer...
>>217751404>>217752359And then he deleted the original post. The motherfucker is actively unwriting now
>>217750970the concept of this being actual dialogue between daemon, bloodraven, and daeron and daemon being played by arnold is making wanna learn how to use ai kek
>>217752359>>217753435His assistant deleted it and he didn't continue writing cause the execs didn't want the heat to grow between him and HBO as it would affect viewership. He's also contractually obligated to cooperate with them to produce spinoffs (which expires this year)
>>217753409yea but taking all the information into account, he adventured around essos, he studied at the citidel and earned a few chain rings, he essentially beat the mountain then got too cocky, you'd think he'd get some recognition
>>217753472>you'd think he'd get some recognitionthe most fair recognition you can give him is placing him above the Mountain, and i think he'd be happy with that
Since we're talking about fighters, who are your top 5 strongest fighters in asoiaf history, /tv/?
>>217753488ok I'm happy with that too
>>217753425>but he had a gaunt, above average face at bestNed would behead you for saying that>He saw the king as he had been in the flower of his youth, tall and handsome, his great antlered helm on his head, his warhammer in hand, sitting his horse like a horned god. He heard his laughter in the dark, saw his eyes, blue and clear as mountain lakes.
>>2177535091. Prime Barristan2. Prime Jaime with his swordhand 3. Prime Robert4. Daemon Blackfyre5. Arthur Dayne (he's mostly carried by his magic sword imho, not so much his skill)
>>217753509BobbyB, Dayne?!, Jaime, Selmy, Daemon B
>>217753537>muh magic sword muh magic swordoh get fucked daemon had valyrian steel, that is such a copout
>>217752919Most of those conflicts were against themselves and the norman barons they replaced the anglo-saxon aristocracy with after some initial revolts.
Funny how dunk the lunk would have died begging if he hadnt punched the targcel
>>217753509
>>2177535091. Bronn2. Strong Belwas3. Victarion Greyjoy4. Lyn Corbray5. Syrio Forel
>every thread it is a bunch of faggots rating muh top 5 warrior topsRate the top 5 qts of asiof
>>217753586ashara dayneashara dayne ashara dayneashara dayneashara dayne
>>217753556Valyrian Steel is nowhere near as OP as Dawn. It's basically in-universe Damascus Steel. Whereas Dawn itself is implied to be a sword forged using the cosmos itself.Give Jon Longclaw or give Ned Ice, and they'll both still get gimped by a prime Barristan/Jaime with a dull sword. Give Jon Dawn however, and he's implied to be able to kill the Great Other with it (since he's Azor Ahai and all that).It's not the same.
>>217753586gwin ashfordeggaryatommenbelwas
>>2177535861. Bessie2. who cares3. some whore4. random 6 year old that pedo gurm glazed a bit too much when writing F&B5. prime old nan
>>217753605>Damascus Steellol get fucked again, its unbreakable never needs to be sharpened and takes some sort of magic to even forge it, what the hell are you talking about
>>217753586Patricia RedwyneRohanne WebberDesmera RedwyneYgritteSansa Stark
>>217753537>>217753545>>217753570why does everyone have the same 5 people loland 4 of them are from the same era toowas robert's rebellion really that cracked with great fighters everywhere? or is it a recency bias thing?
so im guessing Dunk never makes it to the "top" of fighters in asoiaf?
>>217753683>was robert's rebellion really that cracked with great fighters everywhere?yep, it's either the best or second best era of fighters for westeros, lightning in a bottle also it makes sense since post Roberts rebellion is the main story line so ofc martin is gonna make it cracked
>>217753509Darkstar and four of his shadow clones.
>>217753660Yeah, just because it's in-universe Damascus Steel doesnt mean it's not stronger than IRL Damascus Steel. It's still very powerful, but its combat usefulness just comes from how extremely sharp it is, how lightweight it is, and how little maintenance you need for it.The way Martin describes Dawn on the other hand makes it feel like it can probably straight up just shoot out cosmic laser beams when the right person (Azor Ahai) wields it. It's really not the fucking same.
>>217753683the rest of the top 10 usually have people from before Roberts rebellion, but the only people who usually make it into the top 5 who are from before that era are Aemon the dragonknight or Daemon b
>>217753689he's not a great fighter, he even thinks so himself. dunk can kinda just brute force most of his opponents who are smaller than him because he's so huge. he's not that good of a swordsman either. he's just a down and dirty fighter who isn't afraid of chokeslamming his opponent and smashing them with his bare fists.prime bobby b, who is almost as huge, would beat the everliving fuck out of him.
>>217753689he eventually becomes Lord Commander of the Kingsguard but we know nothing of what he did during that time and how good of a fighter he is past the end of the novellas
>>217753689He becomes the commander of the King's Guard. In the books he is mentioned as one of the greatest. In the TV shows there is a scene where Joffrey mocks Jamie for being barely mentioned in the annals of the King's Guard while Duncan has like 5 pages.
>>217753509Jaehaerys I is underrated
>>217753689see >>217753292
>>217753733he is a very good swordsman come the mystery knight, he literally says>I told you I'm much better with a sword
>>217753740It names tons of his feats in that one fluff book. He kills a bunch of blackfyres and beats a baratheon lord in a duel
>>217753753as far as targs go hes a top 5ver for fighters for me
>>217753689The issue he has is that despite his legend growing with time and putting in hard work like no one ever did to reach the heights he did, most of the top tiers were already unhorsing famous knights and getting glazed as the next coming of Ryam Redwyne since like age 10.
>>217753769>He kills a bunch of blackfyresthat feat isn't what it used to be by then tho lol
Say almost like a video game like mountain blade or something you repeated the Rhaegar and Bobby B fight 10 times. How many of those times do you think Bobby comes out on top?
>>217753753He legit has more feats than half of the overly wanked kingsguards that people name drop when talking about great fighters.
>>217753802someone did that, the answer i believe was none and a stalemate
>>217753556>>217753660>“All knights must bleed, Jaime," Ser Arthur Dayne had said, when he saw. "Blood is the seal of our devotion." With dawn he tapped him on the shoulder; the pale blade was so sharp that even that light touch cut through Jaime's tunic, so he bled anew.nta but dawn was legit just fucking cracked.its probably sharper than valyrian steel.and like the other anon said, it probably has latent magic powers too.like LOTR-tier of magic.
>>217753531Ned's romance novel tier descriptions of Robert are always so fun on reread. He usually doesn't describe people much, but Robert is an exception.>Would that Ned had been able to say the same. Fifteen years past, when they had ridden forth to win a throne, the Lord of Storm's End had been clean-shaven, clear-eyed, and muscled like a maiden's fantasy. Six and a half feet tall, he towered over lesser men, and when he donned his armor and the great antlered helmet of his House, he became a veritable giant. He'd had a giant's strength too, his weapon of choice a spiked iron warhammer that Ned could scarcely lift. In those days, the smell of leather and blood had clung to him like perfume.
>>217753753we will never see him fight maegor sadly
>>217753793Yeah, he should have just won a bunch of filler tourneys during times of peace, beat up a gang of outlaw niggers and get himself killed by a manlet frogman and he'd be half as great as Arthur Dayne.
>dayne fanboys ITT just cant accept that their GOAT was just hardcarried by his magic sword and his maxed Charisma stat which warped everyone to think he's the hottest shitlollmao even
Pretty funny that in this fantasy series, no one is as skilled as the great real world knights like William Marshall
if dayne was carried and a fraud so was daemon blackfyre
>>217753883>>217753900Dayne is more carried by the fact that everyone hypes him up as greater than Barristan when Barristan is legit the knight with the most feats in Westeros' history aside from all the offscreen shit Dunk did that Gurm says he'll write eventually.
>>217750107Why is Tanselle performing the "Evil dragon is slain" puppet show while all the targs are literally at the jousting tournament? Did she purposely want to rile them up and insult them, or did she not think anything would come of her seditionist act?
Darkstar solos every here
>>217753886https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuno_%C3%81lvares_PereiraThis guy's life reads cooler than any of the fag fictional kingsguard. >. Nuno Álvares Pereira himself, seeing the banner of the Grand Master of Santiago, fought his way through the Castilian army until encountering him, and after a brief duel, the Grand Master fell mortally wounded.[5] With his fall and the overthrow of his standard, the Castilian army demoralized and was soon broken and in disorder, and could not stop the Portuguese attack, being quickly and totally defeated.
>>217753827Valyrian steel>Made from blood magic sacrifice that makes the steel blackDawn>Made from a shard of the moon when the second moon explodedDawn is probably the only weapon that can penetrate Eurons Valyrian steel armour.Also Valyrian steel seems to have a mind of its own. Jon finds the sword swinging up to block attacks and kill faster than he can process what is happening. Valyrian armour will probably move Eurons body like a freaky doll to block hits
>>217753026I think he punches him then knees him in the stomach all while blowing through 3 guards.
>>217753425Cersei explicitly says she grew to hate Robert for his alcoholism, cheating, and the sexual assaults he'd always deny afterwards. She acknowledges he had been handsome, but it was his other faults that revolted her. >For Robert, those nights never happened. Come morning he remembered nothing, or so he would have had her believe. Once, during the first year of their marriage, Cersei had voiced her displeasure the next day. "You hurt me," she complained. He had the grace to look ashamed. "It was not me, my lady," he said in a sulky sullen tone, like a child caught stealing apple cakes from the kitchen. "It was the wine. I drink too much wine." To wash down his admission, he reached for his horn of ale.
>>217753918The evil dragon puppet show is part of Andal culture and a famous story, being that the evil Valyrians haven’t tried to ban it, it’s probably expected by common people that they’re OK with it.
>>217753833>meanwhile Catelyn describes Ned's lovemaking as "dutiful" hmmm
>>217753900Daemon fought someone who was a knight of the kingsguard, one the best of his time, arguably better trained, came from a long line of sword masters from a house known for their sword masters/trainers (a house that trained several targaryen generations), a wielder of a a valyrian steel sword so it was a fair fight. a sword almost as renown as blackfyre or dawn that is given to only the best fighters of that house. fought him on equal footing in the middle of a warzone in a fair duel for almost an hour
>>217753586Young Alicent, Rhea Royce, Meera Reed, the Waif, whatever Ramsey's mistress was called.
>>217753918In case you're not trolling, they were performing a popular folk tale that predates the Targs by hundreds if not thousands of years. Nobody had ever associated it with the Targs until one retarded schizo incest baby decided to sperg out.
I still don't get why Americans call cloudy non-alcoholic apple juice cider
>>217753975i seriously don't get how Dayne beats Daemon lol
>>217753883So what you're saying is Arthur Dayne is a really cool guy that everyone likes with a cool magic sword ? Sounds shit! I hate that dude!
Remember Quaithe? That went nowhere.
>>217753963Jaime outright says Ned had loved Robert more than he ever did Cat, so yeah.
>>217753670I think this anon likes redheaded tomboys
>>217754002if he did Catelyn should be #1.The actress for Catelyn doesnt do her canonical beauty justice unfortunately (no offense to her, her performance was great), but in the books, Catelyn is described to be almost comparable to Cersei in beauty. Just swap the blonde with red.
>>217753975>in a fair duel for almost an hourthats so unrealistic but i fuck with it
>>217753975
>>217754039Not really man. Lots of battles lasted all day for hours and hours. One side gets tired gets a few losses then they lose their formation then theres a hole now a whole flank is lost etc
>>217754051ty
>>217750136shut up and drink your cider anon
>>217754054it's said that the duel itself was about 40 minutes, two men who are the best at what they do fighting in plate for 40 minutes
>>217754033show Catelyn had a motherly beauty to herHowever I do agree she was too old for Cat, same for Sean Bean (and pretty much 90% of the cast)
>>217753963t. Littlefinger>Her loins still ached from the urgency of his lovemaking. It was a good ache. She could feel his seed within her.>This is not Ned, this is not the man I loved, the father of my children. His hands were clasped together over his chest, skeletal fingers curled about the hilt of some longsword, but they were not Ned’s hands, so strong and full of life. They had dressed the bones in Ned’s surcoat, the fine white velvet with the direwolf badge over the heart, but nothing remained of the warm flesh that had pillowed her head so many nights, the arms that had held her. The head had been rejoined to the body with fine silver wire, but one skull looks much like another, and in those empty hollows she found no trace of her lord’s dark grey eyes, eyes that could be soft as a fog or hard as stone. >And after the war, at Winterfell, I had love enough for any woman, once I found the good sweet heart beneath Ned’s solemn face.You will never have this, you Braavosi scheming manlet
>>217754039Valyrian steel magic anonlike >>217753931 said, the swords make your body move faster than you can think.Both fighters had Valyrian Steel swords, both were probably beyond exhausted halfway through, and both were just running on the fumes of their swords puppeteering them around to fight.Daemon was just the better fighter and so he won in the end.
>>217753425>grrm is such a secretly blackpill-coded writer...not so secretly since we found out it extends to not being able to end his series, because muh blackpill is the antithesis of narrative resolution. ultimately he didn't want his story to be "about" anything because themes are meaningful and meaningfulness isn't blackpilled enough for him.
>>217754067Sounds reasonable to me anon, trained knights were strong fit fucks.
>>217753975you forgot the best feat, Daemon was able to beat Gwayne without outright killing him
>>217753982Yes just like blood sacrifices and other superstitions were openly practiced by westerosi before the targaryans civilized the continent. Things change, so you better change with it.
>>217754072...I shapposh Shansha's pushy is off the table as well
>>217754001In the end Ned never fucked any other woman after marrying Cat and he raised Rhaegar's filthy dragonspawn behind Robert's back. So I guess poor Bobby got cucked by both his waifu and husbando.
>>217754039It's really hard to kill someone in full plate duels. You need to get them off the horse, then you hit each other with a sword until one falls or you're both knackered, them you wrestle on the ground until you can get a blade into the joints of the armour or rip off his helmet.
>>217754033This was who they had for the pilot. Getty image simply to get one that would be from 2011 when GOT aired. The actual original pilot is something like 2009. Is this better or worse casting?
>>217754116you can have lysa
>>217754131i have pretty damn good stamina from years of boxing, that shit blows my mind to be fighting in armor for an hour
>>217754137
>>217754072littlefingerbros......why didn't the CIA save him....?
>>217754135This is definitely bias since we've already seen her performance as Cat but I wouldn't trade Michelle for anybodyhttps://youtu.be/0cyEM57UJks
>>217753998I always imagined her wearing some kind of african tribal mask, not whatever the hell that is
>>217754096Blood sacrifices were largely banned by the Andals, not Targs. Valyrians, on the other hand, kept practicing blood magic until they literally exploded, with Egg successfully replicating the proud Valyrian tradition in Summerhall.
>>217754144Plate armour was a lot more manoeuvrable than it's thought. 20KG spread amongst the body isn't as restrictive as you'd think. 20kg is the difference between a thin man and someone overweight (but not obese). If they're already physically fit, it's a bit draining but not critically.
>>217754135lore wise it's very much betterbut Michelle Fairley is a great actress so I still wouldnt trade for it
>>217754068>she was too old for Cat, same for Sean Bean (and pretty much 90% of the cast)it's hilarious to go through the books again and realize so many major characters are between 30-35 years old
>>217754191but 40 minutes? a fight to the death?? with someone apparently just as skilled as you?
>>217754203Yep but thats middle-aged for medieval times, which was the era ASOIAF was based after. 30-35 in the year 1000 is like 45-50 in the current year, because life expectancy is like max 60 back then.Characters like Master Aemon who lived till 80+ are incredible exceptions.
>>217754231>MasterMaester* my bad
>>217754239You do not need to bother with *. We know what you meant, and any going to take issue with it is just going to be a cunt.
>>217754227That's why they devolved into wrestling at the end, you start getting into "can't physically keep swinging a sword" territory but if you stop completely, you're dead. Swords were also nowhere near as heavy as they were made out to be and a well balanced sword is easier to swing. Plus they were using steel that's practically magical in toughness/sharpness: weight.
>>217754231Yeah, but they desperately try to avoid casting teenagers because of how much it sucks dealing with child actors so they replace them with 17-18 year olds played by actors in their early 20s which means that they have to age parents accordingly.Though, I got to say, the franchise has had pretty decent child actors aside from how bad British puberty was to some of them.
>>217754239this isnt reddit. were not cunts. its ok
>>217754191>>217754227look its dumb ok, gurm doesn't understand how combat works at all, for instance sure battles could last for hours but not everyone was fighting the entire time you would swap out and go rest, seriously go have some food and take a nap the whole >siolders can sleep anywheretrope doesn't come out of nowhere, everyone from the highest ranking general to the lowliest drummer boy wold be taking breaks
>>217754203even Stannis is just 35. kek
I wish this thread was only about the new show, I open the thread and you guy are talking about something I forgot about 5 years ago
>>217754304There is such a narrow window to actually talk about /dunk/ alone. That is basically the day it is released.
>>217754330>blood-magickers>misbegatsthis guy has a great choice of words
>>217754330There is another version of this webm.
>>217754392Imagine if Egg was there for that.
Blackfyrebros... our response?
>>217754370im honestly still abit peeved they dont force their targ actors to wear purple contactsthe violet eyes are very central to the physical characteristics of targs, its a pity that it's left out in all the adaptations
>Dunk and Egg 4: the She-Wolves of Winterfell
>>217754330>W-what the fuck dude, it's not that serious
>>217754422it's a nice song, would sound better sung in Summerhall
>>217754304What's there to talk about? We're barely at episode 3, there's no "Tyrion courtroom speech" moment of great acting yet, and all that we've seen so far have been very faithful to the books, so bookfags like me (and many others ITT) more or less know what's going to happen.
>Dunk the lunk will die a virginImagine watching 12 seasons of this incel bumbling around westeros
>>217754392i like my version better
>>217754516Brienne is his great granddaughter no? He'll probably get laid in the end. Maybe by the 8-9th book/season lol
>>217754516dunk fucked old nan, this is canon
>>217754527>>217754542Isn't he the most noble knight that ever lived? How come he broke his Kingsguard vows?
>>217754527no season 4, wolves of winterfell, where do you think hodor came from?
>>217754547he's not a knight
>>217754547hes not kingsguard at that point, egg is like 14, wolves of winterfell comes right after mystery knight, so season 4
>>217754527Not only Brienne but Hodor as well kek. Dunk becomes a Chad in the end, even fucked prime Old Nan and gave her Hodor.
>>217754554>>217754581Ah you're right kek. I forgot he shagged Old Nan and bastardised Hodor.>>217754547Dude, I dont think we'll ever see Dunk get knighted until the very end. Martin wants to write at least 12 books of dunk and egg, only 3 were written so far. Dunk getting knighted is like 10th-11th book territory. It's stuff that happens right before Summerhall.
Ned's death is an echo of daemons, when you set your eyes on the throne, honor will kill you quicker than anything else ever couldHe bore the sword, he was the better mana treacherous little whispering rat made sure he died anyway"for the realm"
>>217754612you really need to stop talking about shit you know nothing about, dunk was lord commander of the kingsguard for years before summerhall, what the ever loving fuck are you babbling about?
>>217754547He probably impregenated one of Eggs sisters and went into exile into Essos and probably joined the Golden Company. Dunno if that was before or after they made up and made a kingsguard again/for the first time
>>217754547Dunk fucked before becoming KingsguardAlso he's far from noble, he probably lied about being knighted by Arlan. But he is a good guy for sure, one of the best.
>>217754612>It's stuff that happens right before Summerhallwhat makes you say so? i want to see a before-and-after comparisons of dunk being a fake hedge knight and dunk being a kingsguard, and ultimately its lord commander.
>>217754641no him and egg survived summer hall and went to essos
>>217754629Daemon might've been more honor retarded than Ned
btw its been a while but im pretty sure its mentioned ser arlan took dunk to a whore house to lose his v card
Anyone know the name of this actress?
>>217754700This brotha starving
>>217754422cock, was he going to say cock?
>>217754474Not really. A bunch of Targs are described as having blue eyes instead. The trait isn’t exclusive to them anyway, even though they love claiming it is.
>>217754696I think he drunkenly said he would but forgot about it when he sobered up and Dunk was to embarrassed to remind him.
>>217754612>>217754641How the fuck was Gurm able to write 3 ASOIAF novels plus D&E in a five year period but has been incapable of writing jack shit in the last ten years? Even in the mid 2010s when everyone was already tired of his of his shit at least he was churning out Targ tales that eventually became F&B and was actively writing episodes for the show.
>>217754721Obviously. Somebody had taught Egg the kid-friendly version of the song.
>>217754612???>In late 233 AC, after Aegon had ascended the throne as Aegon V Targaryen, Duncan escorted the king's brother, Maester Aemon, to Eastwatch-by-the-Sea, where Aemon was going to join the Night's Watch.>Duncan eventually joined the Kingsguard. While it is unknown when exactly he took his vows, the first known mention of him as a Kingsguard knight is in 236 AC.>In 236 AC, Ser Duncan fought in the Fourth Blackfyre Rebellion and personally slew Daemon III Blackfyre, the Blackfyre Pretender.>In 239 AC, when Prince Duncan Targaryen broke his betrothal to Lord Lyonel Baratheon's daughter and married a commonborn girl known as Jenny of Oldstones instead, the enraged Lyonel renounced his fealty to the Iron Throne. Duncan served as King Aegon V's champion in the trial by combat, in which he bested Lyonel, thereby ending his short rebellion.>In 252 AC or 253 AC Duncan, by then Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, participated in a winter tourney at King's Landing, where he was defeated by a sixteen-year-old Barristan Selmy.>In 259 AC, Duncan perished along with King Aegon V and Prince Duncan, among others, in the tragedy of Summerhall.>Little is known about the events of the tragedy, but it seems that the Lord Commander's valor saved some of the survivors from dying in the great fire that consumed Summerhall.He's going to be knighted halfway thru. Not "by the 10th-11th book". He has so many feats that need to features.Fuck are you talking about?
>>217754732This is incredibly satisfying. Especially that disarming kick at the end.>I’m a super special snowflake ubermesch, how dare you!
>>217754612>>217754757you guys need to stop using knighted for becoming kingsguarddunk is already a knight
>>217754742the first 3 ASOIAF make a lot of mistakes in the later lore and world building and shit just got bloated as things expanded. I think GRRM wants to release Winds before any of the other stuff so the symbolism in the later Dunk and egg books don't spoil the big reveal (azho ahai/bloodstone emperor reborn created the white walkers after taking over the weirwoodnet in the heart of Winter which is a frozen wierwood tree, the last hero will defeat him to bring the Dawn) but he can't finish the book while also keeping it trim enough to be one book so it doesnt need to be split, while also moving everyone where they need to be.I just HOPE he has copious notes and books hes sitting on and denying while trying to finish Winds. He must have she wolves on winterfell done because he announced its release in like 8 months before it just fell off the face of the earth
>>217754721its an old song trick egg isn't singing it quite right, there are more then a few real world songs that do this however if you must be retarded/eslPrince Baelor was the first bornPrince Maekar sprang out lastDaemon was the bastardso they kicked his bastard (gr)Ass is green in summergreen grass I adoreBut grass is red all overwhen you kill a rebel(H)whore(es) die in battleThis battle was the frontBalckfyre's not a truebornhe came from the wrongCUNT(try) was in perilThe Anvil was a rockThe Hammer smashed the bastard with his giant veiny COCK
>>217754742Writer's block. His "gardening" writing style made things very hard for him to continue. Instead of having a clear outline for the story to move along in, he just lets his characters do whatever they want based on their personality and his mood for that day. Then he improvises and writes onward from there.It's great for making believable/relatable people, ASOIAF is a series thats heavily carried by its characters. But in terms of ending a story like that it's a nightmare, because how can he realistically tie everyone together into the same climax, while making it cathartically satisfying for the fans as well?
>Elaena married her first husband, the wealthy but elderly Lord Ossifer Plumm. He died on their wedding night (supposedly after seeing her naked)The power of targ lolis
>>217754832EPSTEIN FUCK NIGGASPSTEINFUCKNIGGAS
>>217754716an actress with a big ass is too rare of a thing to just let go
>>217754744I thought it was just a reference to popular folk songs with censored rhymes for older kids like Miss Susie had a Steamboat.
>>217754811what would be the following line?
>>217754859but what will you do with her identity if you find it? it's so strange, if you want something to jack off to can't you just choose from the infinite amount of porn already available?
>>217754859its probably some extra man. might even be a porn star
>>217754891>but what will you do with her identity if you find it?lol
>>217754788He technically isn’t, but nobody knows it.
>>217754882no idea because>host of dornish spearmenis the first line you need the second line to set up the joke for the next verse
>>217754928>>217754928>>217754928
>>217754922yeah but I don't think he'll ever tell that to anybodyhe'll probably only ever tell it to Egg and he's gonna be like "no problem Dunk, you're the truest knight to me" or some shit like that
>>217754811aye