Defeated Male leaves editionPrevious: >>217840517
star trek sex with shran
he's de most, de most sexy man
sex on de beach? only if it's wit shran
Geordi LaForge translates to "Geordi of the Forge"
more of a jordi debarge guy myself
15 more drekisodes left
What was the thought process of flipping red security/engineering and yellow command with TNG
>>217857213i thought paulie g would be more prominent in this but ig they couldnt afford him except in the first and last episodehe cant save this shit cuz he aint even in it
>>217857258red was already being used on the monster maroon uniforms, so im guessing they continued using it as everyone got used to seeing captain kirk wearing it.
>Alexander Hilary Kurtzman (born September 7, 1973) is an American filmmaker. He is best known for co-writing the scripts to Transformers (2007), Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009), Star Trek (2009), Star Trek Into Darkness (2013), and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) with his writing and producing partner Roberto Orci, and directing and co-writing The Mummy (2017). He made his directorial debut with People Like Us (2012), co-written alongside Orci and Jody Lambert.Jesus wept
>>217857258Picard in red just looked better on camera
>>217857363Kick out the Galactic Homo Starfleet and MAKE BAJOR GREAT AGAIN!!
Why yes, I support the independence of Bajor and Narn, how could you tell?
True virgin loser representation, love my boy Barclay.
Kes
>>217857690Got a blowjob in a Wendy's parking lot from her when I sold her a bag of fake crack.
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>>217857735crop ur shit
>>217857728Did you pretend to be Neelix?
>>217857875No, but I did spill my side of chili all over her when I nutted
>>217857683The most unrealistic thing is how he would even be allowed on the Ent-D. Imagine a five star international hotel where world leaders discuss geopolitics. And then one of the bellboys is this sweaty nerd who can’t stop playing video games on the clock. Wouldn’t he make the hotel owner look bad for keeping him around?
>>217857930you can just say you didnt watch the episode
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>>217857258From what I understand, screen tests with Pstew in a yellow uniform just wasn't working.They also originally wanted Data to wear science blue, but it contrasted weird with his pale white skin and gold eyes, so they switched him to engineering/security yellow.
>>217858150Yuck
>>217858238who sent them to the suede dimension?also why does dorn look like he's having an allergic reaction?
>>217858238>Worf in red>DS9 vibes
Worf on the command track is such a retarded idea and in DS9 he just proves he's terrible at it
>>217858320Worf and Geordi both wore red in TNG S1. I’m glad they both got promotions and changed uniforms, they don’t look good in those TNG red unis
>queued up alternating episodes of TNG and The Cosby show>fluffy blanket>teai've done iti've achieved maximum comfuntil my mug is empty i dwell in the realm of perfection and coziness
Can we just agree the the DS9 uniforms were the best looking? Compare to the gay-ass TNG ones.
>>217858391Nah these are both cool ass uniforms, it’s really hard to pick a favorite.
>>217858391the difference is so marginal they might as well be the samethe DS9 uniforms let avery brooks and colm meaney sport a bit of a belly because of the dark torso where the TNG uniform shows off the bellies, hence the inescapable noticing of fat riker when frakes puts on weight
>>217858238>>217858356Worf looks better in DS9 red than he does in TNG red
>>217858434This I agree with. Each uniform has their moment. TNG ones are more comfy and complement the Galaxy class. It’s annoying seeing Picard in those later DS9 / movie uniforms. But Worf, contrastingly, looks better in them. There more suited for warfare vibes
>>217858391idk, the ds9 uniforms took some getting used to at first, the weird turtle necks that were purple one scene and gray the next were incredibly jarring the first few seasons, then they seemingly got more consistent and they looked quite good. I think it depended heavily on who wore the, Bashir and Dax looked best in them, they were flattering to their body types. The TNG uniforms felt like a nice blend of formal but comfortable, which I think suits starfleet, they're diplomats and want to look respectable but also they want to show people they're friendly so the top is essentially just a fancy sweater. The First Contact uniform is still my favorite to this day, it just looks super badass and utilitarian, though it always tripped me up how Siskos was a two piece and everyone elses was a one piece jumpsuit.
Best uniform(?) coming through.
>>217857690why did they killed her off?its funny she got fat kek.
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>>217858637its a shame they never did anything interesting with him after the "my parents mad me khan" incident
>>217857077shran star sex with trek
>>217858606This is also a close second
So at one point was Starfleet just concurrently issuing three different sets of uniforms?
>>217858637>that scene where they reveal Bashir has been kidnapped and replaced because he's still wearing the old uniform
>>217858606>>217858637>>217858678
>>217858703Could've been a great reveal but it always felt somewhat anti-climactic to me.
>>217857690they should have had Kes wear the longer hair and catsuit earlier in S3; they still had her dressed like a little girl which hampered her character development I feel
>>217858708Starfleet cut back on heating during the movie era.
>>217858783It gets cold in space
Just finished Voyager lads.No resolution between Tom and his dad even though Admiral Paris was in the episode and Tom's daddy issues have been a theme since Season 1 No drama over Chakotay and B'Elanna (and the rest of the Maquis) being disciplined in autismo starfleet fashion. It was hinted it would be an issue in Life Line (S6E24) but I guess the beef was resolved off-screen after Pathfinder established instataneous transgalactic communication? Why do it off-screen though? Same with Neelix and Kes's break up. Isn't that quite pertinent info? That Chakotay and Seven relationship that came out of nowhere beyond a holographic simulation of Seven's a few eps earlier, Chakotay hadn't even expressed interest before this episode. Same thing with Worf and Troi all of a sudden making out in TNG's finale but at least that episode was kino They never actually fucking reach Earth. They just get extremely close to it. Too goody goody perfect (perhaps DS9 ruined me). Only goodie that dies is an Admiral Janeway that ultimately won't exist anyway? Also a little pissed off that one old woman with technology 26 years in the future can carve through the most formidable enemy on Star Trek like butter just because it's expedient. Why wasn't there a multiple-episode arc where this sudden discovery of a transwarp hub didn't feel so rushed? The Neelix departure episode was far better imo IMDB gives it an 8.6/10, am I being autistic? What's the /trek/ consensus, pro or anti?
I'm watching TNG S5 E25 Inner Light.What are you guys watching?
Do you guys really live this way or is this clip AI generated?https://media.shitposter.world/shitposter.club/08/47/1c/08471c09e0c5ddccfc4fd111dc1ecbb84e7f0e287f2e12e3f71e4e84648cbd62.mp4?name=JCAZCGaw-URLYA.mp4
>>217858837Opinion tends to be mixed, most people agree it has some very good but also some of the worst episodes Trek has to offer.
>>217858837No, that's a good assessment.Most Star Trek series finales are bad-to-meh with All Good Things being the best as it clocks in at "it's alright".The Neelix episodes shows you how much more fulfilling it would be if they actually gave each character an ending instead of just arriving at Earth and rolling credits.
>>217858837>No resolution between Tom and his dad even though Admiral Paris was in the episode and Tom's daddy issues have been a theme since Season 1He was horribly worried about Tom multiple times.>Same with Neelix and Kes's break up. Isn't that quite pertinent info?Neelix's breakup was long coming.>That Chakotay and Seven relationship that came out of nowhere beyond a holographic simulation of Seven's a few eps earlier, Chakotay hadn't even expressed interest before this episode. Same thing with Worf and Troi all of a sudden making out in TNG's finale but at least that episode was kinoOkay so that was actually because of Chakotay's actor intentionally trying to get fired from the show as he had grown tired of the role, and thought that making escalating, stupid demands would get him killed off. They caved to every single one, no matter how stupid. Beltran redeemed himself later in PROD and gave a 10/10 performance there.>Too goody goody perfect (perhaps DS9 ruined me). Only goodie that dies is an Admiral Janeway that ultimately won't exist anyway?Prime Kim is dead. The kim from ep 1 and the kim from the finale aren't the same kim.
>>217858683Service uniformFormal uniformLeisure uniform
>>217858683They've talked about this a few times. It takes a while for new uniform designs to roll out fleet wide yes, I know it should be "instantaneous" because they're replicated, but I guess they get instructed to wear them at a later date, so they allow for multiple uniform types to be in service at any given time.
>>217859059Also I don't see why starfleet would just not care that much about 100% uniformity and would allow people to wear different uniforms to their tastes.
>>217859080>>217859059>>217858683the different uniforms are for different personnel. people on starships had one uniform, people serving on starbases had another, etc
>>217858837There's positive sides to Voyager but the show is immensely dragged down by the lack of character development and long-term continuity. The Maquis conflict never mattered. Being trapped on the other side of the galaxy never had any lasting consequences. The characters didn't really grow or change. This culminated in the lackluster ending.
>>217858851Olympic figure skatingI'm gay, btw
>>217858606I just…can't get over the fact that it doesn't join in the middle. It's stupid.
>>217859112But the Voyager uniforms are modeled after the DS9 ones.
>>217859289yeah they kinda stopped giving a fuck about the consistency of that apparently but that was the original idea behind the different uniform designs
>>217858783Is it true they kept it cold on set so the womens' nipples would be perky? That's something Gene would do.
>>217858348(You)
>>217859409i dont want your (You). Worf simps disgust me
>>217858627low empathy is a sign of being brown>>217858708>
>>217859112>>217859289Voyager was supposed to have the new uniforms originally designed for the TNG crew in Generations
Alright, Inner Light was sort of sad.
>>217858956>Beltran redeemed himself later in PROD and gave a 10/10 performance there.This. The episodes where he is marooned and the kids find him are kino. Also, finding out the fate of his first officer.
>>217859457>pips AND the sleeve braids or w/e they were calleddumb
>>217859289I just choose to believe that because the voyager was a new ship with state of the art technology they had the crew wear the more utilitarian DS9 jumpsuits cause they expected them to have to do more potential repairs if shit went wrong.
>>217859516yeah. They claim "too many new elements" as an excuse for ditching them, but I think they were horrendous and they knew it.
>>217858837In the recent comics they reach Earth orbit then instantly get taken over by disguised Species 8472 and whisked away to fluidic space, at least one crew member dies during the takeover. Imagine surviving seven years of bullshit just to die with Earth visible through the window.
>>217858837im sorry anon, please understand no star trek show has a good finalethe writers just arent capable of it
>>217859833all good things... is one of the best ever. tf are you talking about?
>>217859850No. Only the last scene is great.The episode itself is very mediocre. Most people don't remember the plot at all and if it was anything except for the final episode, it would be right up there with other disappointing two-parters like Descent.
>>217859889ok here's your second (You) you had me going with the first post but you blew it
>>217859906Not even the same anon.
>>217859833i think of "All Our Yesterdays" as the finale of TOS and it works great. and the actual last episode is good too even if it doesn't function as a finale.
>>217859920really not cool of you to hijack someone else's trolling attempt and ruin it by sucking at trolling
>>217859931Turnabout Intruder is EGREGIOUSLY sexist.
>>217859965i disagree.
>>217857690Kes worries me. Because she was such a cute mousy, elf like girl, to me she was so attractive and really an ideal girlfriend.Then she aged and looks like a cross between a rock troll and a Hargrave witch.
>>217859275It does, it has a zip but he's wearing it loose. It's more comfortable not to be zipped up.
>>217859450Thanks, I hate it.
>>217859457>our audience is too stupid to figure out new uniformsTrek has always hated you.
>>217858837>That Chakotay and Seven relationship that came out of nowhere beyond a holographic simulation of Seven's a few eps earlier, Chakotay hadn't even expressed interest before this episode.As one of the other Anons replied to you and explained, Chakotay's actor was bored and felt his character had no purpose on the show and was trying to get fired so kept giving increasingly weird demands he thought the studio wouldn't acquiesce in order to give them a reason to fire him.However, the studio kept giving him a raise whenever he asked for higher and higher wages so he thought that he would ask for his character to be in a relationship with 7of9 because that's such a ridiculous ask, especially as she was dating the showrunner/ producer of Voyager at the time, but the guy sat there and agreed that he would give Chakotay a romance with 7. I mean, what more can be said?
>>217860158>I mean, what more can be said?Taylor Swift is a phenomenal Lyricist.
>>217860203
fuck it just do another prequel that takes place even before ENT I really don’t care anymore
>>217860258>No Lieutenant CivilianFail
Watching Voyager. This is the most likeable cast since The Original Series. THe only criticism ive heard is that janeway veers wildly as a captain and you have episodes that run over the same ground as previous trek. Thats the whole of Next Gen to me tho.
>>217860258why isn't he in uniform?
>>217860268He's on his day off in the holodeck, still hasn't thought of what programme to initiate which is why the background is white, he's browsing which is also why the background isn't the default black and yellow lines or hologrid like in voyager.
>This is the power of math people!Why was this DS9 line so controversial?
>>217860273>This is the most likeable cast since The Original Seriesyou seriously think harry, tom, and chakotay hold a candle to the TNG cast? or DS9 for that matter?
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>>217860328I'm leaving.
>>217860158>>217858956Is this common knowledge? Did Robert Beltran confirm it? If they were willing to bend over backwards for him, why not just give him what he wanted in the first place and make him a more prominent character with an actual arc, as opposed to making a significant chunk of S4-6 the seven of nine show.
>>217860182Nah. She's 10/10 visually, but has meh voice and her music is bad
>>217860362Yeah he's mentioned it multiple times at conventions over the years. It's also been confirmed by other actors on set and the producer.
>>217860203>>217860312I watched star trek since 90s, and I only learned last year that Maqui on Voyager had different rank pips from starfleet.
How long have we been dancing to the same tune?
>>217860392lmaoThat reminds of this show "Oz" that aired on HBO in the 90s.It was kino at first, but it turned into absolute shit.Upon completing the show apparently the creator ran out of ideas and was more than willing to inject suggestions from cast into storylines, hence explaining the precipitous decline.Just read that Beltran is also responsible for the dogshit episode "The Fight" too. lmao he really shouldn't write anything
>>217860320Yes. DS9 cast were really good and worked well together in a different context. TNG was always awkward to me. TOS was the best because it was male camaraderie.
>>217860308Because math is (((Bajoran))) lies and hoodoo
Bet you feel real stupid now, huh?
>>217860374>She's 10/10 visuallynah she'd look better if she had horse riding thighs. I am going to laugh maniacally in your face now.>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhahahhahaahahahahahahahajajajsjHajahahajajajhahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeseEEEEEEEE>*spins 360° and moonwalks away*Treks for this feel?
star trek
what the FUCK is his problem?
>>217860563I don't get it
>>217860594He's just a crazy mixed up emotional Chicano
>>217860594I was at a recent con where a fan tried baiting Jeri Ryan into disowning Robert Beltran but she refused
>>217860640she seems like such a nice girlMulgrew treated her so coldly but she brushes it off and the second Mulgrew apologised she immediately forgave her.Just such a beam of light.
>>217859385The official reason is to counteract the heat from set lighting, but yes.
/trek/ needs to come to terms with what's happening, but how?
>>217860742Construct additional pylons (in my pants)
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>>217860682It was like>so you know Robert Beltran?>oh yes I love Robbie!>but what are your thoughts on his recent comments.>well I may DISAGREE with what he says sometimes but he's still my friendI'm sure that "fan" went on to try and "cancel" her on xitter or bluesky because she wouldn't condemn Beltran
>>217860453>Upon completing the show apparently the creator ran out of ideas and was more than willing to inject suggestions from cast into storylinesWhat's so funny to me about Voyager is that almost every single main cast member was allowed to direct an episode some even allowed to write or co-write an episode, everyone except the guy playing Harry Kim. He was denied every single time he request to direct.
>>217860083If there's a zip, I can't see it. Regardless, there's no way the two sides are meeting unless he takes it off. And even then, that would pull the leather out of shape. I like the materials, but it remains a weird abomination of a garment.
>>217860682>she seems like such a nice girlI will never understand how her politician ex-husband struck gold on his marriage and relationship with her and he threw it all away because he wanted to be a cuckold and watch her get fucked at Swingers/ sex parties and she refused saying it was disgusting to her and she was a one woman one man type of girl. Based Jeri Ryan, absolutely based.
>>217860362It's also well known that Mulgrew and Ryan really disliked each other, much to Wang's dismay, who would break down crying when they wouldn't stop fighting.
>>217860852>If there's a zip, I can't see itIt's a Space Jacket, the zip is on the ship until it's needed then he presses a small button on his cuff which is a transported locator beam, which sends the signal to a special container on the Enterprise containing the zip, which is then transported onto the jacket.
IT'S SUPER BOLIAN SUNDAY
>>217860887wasn't it a pretty lopsided hatred? I don't recall Ryan really giving a fuck desu
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>>217860982are Bolians destined to be nothing more than trivial characters or background extras? they always seem to be around but never in a main role
>>217860852It was one of Gene’s weird rules you couldn’t show zippers in the future. They tried so hard to make Star Trek its own universe. And then NuTrek writers come along and make everyone speak like 21st century social media addicts.
>>217861060>They tried so hard to make Star Trek its own universe.Very weird attempt considering how it had constant time travel, and aliens that looked like humans from specific era.
>>217861050There are some species that love to serve, that are happy to serve. Let the Bolians be that species.
>>217857178that would be "Geordi de LaForge"as it is, it's "Geordi the Forge"
>>217860984Mulgrew was mad at her because she was designed to be sexy.At the same time, Ryan's husband was literally pimping her out and sexually abusing her and forcing her to do shit she didn't want to do, and all that came out in the divorce but trek never really talks about it.
>gene roddenberry gave us too many rules to follow in the writers>modern star trek follows none of theseturns out once your visionary creator dies, you just lose what made the shows special.
>>217861134that's not true. you just need a Rick Berman to be like >your idea is retarded and not Star Trek. Fix it and get back to me.the problem is there's no more gatekeeping, not that Gene died
>no I can't speak to you without my three retards and there is no computer related solution
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>>217861149Why isn't Kurtzman doing it? Is he just a retard who thinks none of these ideas are shit? Nobody seriously stopped Tawny from writing herself as Dax?
so do I watch ENT or is it nutrek?
>>217861183because he doesn't like Star Trek or care about it he's just using the IP for his own ends
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>>217859469True, but what a good concept for an episode that was executed extremely well>>217859506I'm honestly giving thought to watching it just because nutrek is so hopeless, but then I remember it's a children's cartoon and I lose all motivation. What's the deal with general grievous?>>217859516>>217859645I think they look kind of formal and could've worked. They kind of remind me of the decorated uniforms of the napoleonic era
>>217859965it's not, and if it was it was funny
>>217860887It's a shame they didn't give Mulgrew more to work with, knowing she was able to play Janeway as so affectionate for Seven while hating Ryan makes VOY's lack of depth feel even worse.
>>217861176>exclusively produces garbageThis like a Christopher Tolkien thing where the offspring is objectively inferior to the famous parent, but is given unearned control over the parent's property.
>>217861220>then I remember it's a children's cartoon and I lose all motivationI don't know how /co/ does it. I get /a/ and shonen anime because most shonen fans are young brown kids at this point, but /co/ is full of adults who seriously treat Adventure Time and shit like it is made for 30 years olds. Its like the cringe Disney adult phenomenon. I don't understand /co/ at all.
>>217861187It’s good. It kind of exists inside its own little box; not quite 90s carpet trek but not quite disastrous nutrek.I would say standards were through the roof in the early 00s so lots of people were unhappy with it at the time, but time has also been kind to it and we can now look back and at the very least call it “okay” (I happen to love it, and it has lots of dedicated fans. Some are contrarian, some consider it more of a cult classic series)Also you’ll probably immediately hate the intro and the theme song – but don’t skip it. After three or four episodes it’ll probably click and you’ll find it enjoyable.Plus, at the very least, you might as well round off a full watch of all “true treks” as the franchise started with TOS and [effectively] died after ENT finished
>>217861159It’s so funny you didn’t even need the photo and everyone would still know what episode you were talking about.
>>217860453The Fight was kind of kino
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>>217861060>They tried so hard to make Star Trek its own universeAnd they succeeded. Nothing else lives up to it.
>>217861159Best part is, those three have to basically sacrifice their lives for this dude, because he's to lazy to just write what he wants to say.
>>217861299I hear S1&2 are mid and S3&4 are considerably better, is that accurate? Just basing it off this lil image I saw
>>217861187it's the last true trek
>>217861294It’s scary how if something traumatic happens to you before you’re old enough to process it, you just stay at that age mentally. Whatever media you use to cope with the traumatic event, you become addicted to.
>>217861203Considering Kurtzman is 9/11 truther, it both makes perfect sense that he has such a hard on for Section 31, and hilarious, how hard he misunderstood their concept, and just turned them into dollar store CIA.
>>217861355NTA, but it would be preferable to express your thoughts without relying on a crutch for the inarticulate.
>>217861294I mean, some cartoons still have good writing (better than a lot of what's on TV right now anyway, especially nutrek) and tackle difficult topics, it's just that prod does not seem like that type of 'toon
>>217861418NTA, but I wouldn't use a viewing guide for itOpinions on it vary wildly. Some like the arcs in S3 and S4, some hate them. Some think 1&2 are the only good seasons, some think it's all good. It's oddly polarizing, and I never really understood why.
>>217861418The first season was them trying to find their footing. The Xindi arc was too grimdark and dogshit during 2 & 3, and they tried to fix it by 4 but then it was axed, just as they had found their more positive, light hearted and more classic trek footing. The ending is absolute dogshit, and Frakes couldn't be arsed to lose weight, and no matter how much good will the show has built up with you, they will burn it in one fiery blaze called Trip during the finale. It's been decades and I'm still pissed.
>>217861471>Kurtzman is a 9/11 truther
>>217861471>>217861535Roberto Orci was the 9/11 truther. But not in the based way. (he says it was the US government and not Israel as we all know) He was also fucking nuts and lashed out at everyone who said Into Darkness sucked.He's dead now.
>>217861418That seems to be the accepted discussion around it but I think a lot of that is driven by people who don’t really care for it and only acknowledge its silver linings.My mindset going in to it was that it was just going to just suck ass. I was in elementary school in the 00s and caught ENT on cable and thought it was lame. Decided eh what the hell let’s see if my opinion has changed now that I’m an adult and I was immediately a fan.Personally I found it starts off perfectly strong and stays pretty consistent, and that everyone speaking ill against it was just blowing smoke
>>217861274>Christopher Tolkienwas the last defence against his fathers work being destroyed by hacks
>>217861187it is in a little category of its own. T'Pol is leaning more into sex appeal ala 7of9 and the writing is pretty weak. There are some standout episodes but not much sticks with you like older trek. It's a better watch than the new stuff for sure.
>>217861563Yep. That makes sense. The subversive jew Kurtzman being all "Listen, guys, the jews did 9/11!" makes zero sense.
>>217861574I thought he was the one in charge of the estate when they signed off on the Amazon shitshow, am I mixing him up with another of Tolkien's progeny?
Took them a moment, but Lower Decks, Strange new Worlds and Starfleet Academy finally brought back good trek to TV.
>>217861592It was his own kids who allowed the IP to be raped after he died.
>>217861294The people who treat those shows as super serious are cringe, but that doesn't mean an adult can't enjoy them as lighter fare when they're well made. Like entertainment candy, you can enjoy a little bit of it from time to time but it'll rot you from the inside if it's all you consume.
>>217861531The xindi arc is so fascinating. Some people claim it’s what makes the show good while others (such as myself) find it way too grimdark and edgy.ENT is funny. It’s not necessarily that it never found itself, it’s already confident in what it is by S1. But I do think there was always this sense of incompatibility with the audience. And yeah by S4 it was simply too late.I’m glad it exists nonetheless. It’s not a prequel done perfect, but it respects the fan base and lore and offers a pretty good series that nobody asked for lol
>>217861680>it respects the fan base and lorelol. lmao even.
>>217861680It made Andorians and Tellarites founding members of the federation, two species who had a microscopic influence on the franchise up to that point.Would have made far more sense to include Betazed, Bolians, Trills.The fact that those two are founding members and play such a miniscule role in the federation is weird desu.
>>217861592Yeah. He refused to give away the rights to the silmarillion. There were rumors he stood down form the estate because he was being pressured by his family. They havent sold the rights to the silmarillion yet though which im guessing Christopher specifically objected to. Rings of Power can only mention stuff named in the appendices.
>>217861704It’s one thing to offer you characters and stories you happen to dislike. It’s an entirely different thing to outright present dislikable characters and stories.
>>217861680>It’s not necessarily that it never found itself, it’s already confident in what it is by S1.So it was crap confidently?
>>217861759it has nothing to do with like or dislike. did you reply to wrong post? your reply is a non-sequitur.
>>217861741Wow congrats are you next going to complain that TNG changed the look of the klingons?
have you guys ever met girls who like star trekare they a thingI would like to buy one
>>217861794no because that happened in The Motion Picture first, 8 years before TNG even airedget gud nigga
>>217861741>It made Andorians and Tellarites founding members of the federation, two species who had a microscopic influence on the franchise up to that point.This was never directly stated on-screen but this was always one of those assumed facts since TOS
>>217861187It filters a lot of people and for that reason alone it’s worth checking out
>>217861794Speaking of, why did TNG never used Andorians, outside of that one crappy cameo? Weird.
Shras had a huge influence on me because he was based
>>217861592No that was Chris's children not him. He even hated the Lord of the Rings Peter Jackson movies and said Jackson had turned them into action movies and lost the essence of what his fathers books were about. He would never, ever have agreed to sell to Amazon and he would think Rings of Power was made specifically to insult his father.
>>217861839Was the cameo the LAL episode? "The Offspring".I am so impressed at myself for remembering that.Why am I such a retard with info that actually matters but I can remember Trek facts like my life depends on it.sigh.
>>217861839>TNG never used Andoriansthey used them like 2 times and the answer to your question is that the makeup looked silly and goofy
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>>217861809I’ve met several and they’re the most normal women you can think of. I don’t know where this meme came from that Star Trek is only enjoyed by neckbeards who are terrified of women. It’s never been true. The only IP that stereotype even comes close to is Magic: The Gathering. And I’m sure that game has plenty of normal ass fans too.
what's the best starship design and why is it the 90s warbird?
>>217861879men are really fucking retarded and insecure so they can only feel good about liking something if they tell themselves women would never like it. i'm not joking that's literally it.
>>217861780No it was meant for you. I was trying to contrast the difference between ENT being bad, versus anything NuTrek being actually unequivocally bad bad
>>217861274You’re confusing Christopher Tolkien with the son of Frank Herbert (Dune). C Tolkien respected, preserved and continued his fathers work in a way that honoured his original vision. He complied his fathers work and its responsible for the wealth of Tolkien stuf we have these days. He was a gatekeeper but it’s because he knew it all inside outHerbert’s son is a hack who has cashed in on his dads legacy by writing so many shit books on the same universe, injecting his headcanon into everything, putting his name on Dune books and being a terrible author.
>>217861866>Why am I such a retard with info that actually matters but I can remember Trek facts like my life depends on it.>sigh.I feel you, I still remember cheatcodes for 20 year old games, but am not sure what tomorrow meeting at work is about.
>>217861898ENT is not really "bad" but to say it's not disrespectful to the lore in many ways is a fucking lie
>>217861887Prometheus class ships. Multivector assault mode is sex. The ship being a giant holodeck is sex. Everything about it is sex.
>>217861869Yeah, I know they looked like shit, but all the more reason to try harder. It's just weird that they were ignored in TNG, DS9 and VOY, and only Enterprise finally decided to bring them back.
>>217861908>I feel you, I still remember cheatcodes for 20 year old games, but am not sure what tomorrow meeting at work is about.Your appropriate response should be>IDKFA and IDGAF
>>217861878I will have to ask Spock sister, for an opinion. She's clearly smarter than him.
>>217861938it's not weird if they had more budget and better technology to do them better in ENT than they did in 1989
>>217861896this reads like it came from a misandrist
>>217861887I've never understood the purpose of splitting the hull into 4 pieces like this. Okay, maybe the quantum singularity is in the butt and they keep it there in case they need to eject their eingineering section. But what purpose do the two big wings serve? Cargo?
>>217858606Nah this uniform was ass.
>>217861887I have such a hard on for this design, it's not even funny. Peak of alien space ships. Its successor is so lame and basic in comparsion.
>>217861887It was always the Intrepid class for me.Sick warbird though, that's up there.
>>217861972is reality misandrist? things like soap and shampoo have to be marketed specially toward men because they associate hygiene with femininity and being gay. are you saying multi billion dollar corporations are misandrist too?
>>217861920prometheus was dumb then and remains dumb now>>217861957>IDKFAI don't know, fucking A?
>>217861992I love Intrepid, because it removed the one thing I always hated about Enterprises - that stupid neck.
>>217861987it looks cool. none of the ship designs make sense.
>>217861962Thanks for confirming you're a dumbass who can't even spell.
>>217861119It’s shorthand
>>217859833TNG and DS9 both had good finales.
>>217862042U mad, bro?
>>217861987it's supposed to be a big paper tiger, emblematic of the romulan empire. it looks huge, but in reality it's a lot of empty space. it's to project power where there is none. it's a fantastic design imo.it also looks cool.>>217862014ok so full on actual misandrist then. soap and shampoo are literally marketed for both sexes, there is no>"marked specially toward men because they associate hygiene with femininity and being gay"do you live in some third world shithole where this is the case or something? this straight up doesn't happen in western countries.
>>217859833Only TOS has a truly horrible last episode, because of it's misogynistic messege. "Women cant be starship captains", what a bs idea that was.
>>217862148it was right though
>>217862125You just wanna troll
>>217862019IDSPISPOPD and moonwalking away
>>217862132>this straight up doesn't happen in western countries.you haven't noticed how commercials for body wash for women just talk about how it will make you clean and hydrate your skin and commercials for body wash for men point out how if you use it women will definitely notice and want to fuck you immediately? you're delulu
>>217862148Sir we are being hailed, it’s Jonathan Frakes’ beer belly pinging us from the ENT finale
>>217862190it's against the rules, but the ferengi admirals won't do anything about it
>>217862148maybe it's actually a feminist message about how bad life sucks as a woman and it's enough to drive an ambitious woman insane with jealousy. ever think about that, chud?
>>217862210i've noticed that both over-hype and under-deliver. you're clearly biased and portraying things incorrectly.
>>217861887Dunno about best but it's my personal favorite.
>Marina Sirtis and Jonathan Frakes used to get "fat shaming" calls from producers telling them to "lose five pounds." lmao when was Troi ever fatdidn't she wear a bikini in that S7 episode of Voyager she was in
I always liked how DS9 saved Ferengi. Rather than trying to rewrite them, they realized everyone already thinks of them as a joke... and they just rolled with it. Yes, they're are a joke. Now lets get some good actors to sell it.
how was Marina Sirtis 10x more attractive in her late 30s than her early 20s?
>>217862289I love how they hiss with anger, like sankes in the grass.
>>217862275Crazy how much hotter she gow with age.
>>217862332Honestly yeah
>>217862274The E is sleek and sexo but at the same time it’s too evocative of tacticool wartime.
>>217862316they shaved her
>>217861741There's a reason why Andorians and Tellarites are taken to Babel and not Trills, Betazeds, or Bolians. And the TOS books have always featured those two species more prominently than ones introduced in TNG.>>217861418Some weird ratings on this. Fusion is decent and sets up what ENT will do with the Vulcans for the rest of the series for better or worse. Shockwave 2-parter is great as an introduction to the nonsense that is the Temporal Cold War. Strong visuals and an interesting A-/B-plot split that ties together. Carbon Creek is a lot of fun, better than most time travel episodes.Night in Sickbay is interesting. It was probably too cerebral and oddly set up (would make more sense as part of a Risa story), but I've always enjoyed it. Archer isn't the professional rock that early Picard is or Janeway is, and this shows it. The Expanse was a boring way to end the season. The only good bit was T'pol's conflict and resolution.North Star is the most TOS episode ENT ever did. Communicator and Renaissance are much better explorations of the idea of first contact with pre-warp civilizations, but North Star is just a classic Star Trek episode that's fun to watch. All the Augment shit, especially the Klingon Augment shit, was just too much. It didn't feel like Star Trek. The same is true of the Terra Prime stuff, which would be more believable if it had built on Archer's skepticism, suspicion, and conflict with the Vulcans from S1.
>>217862465Why are you bringing up all these very different shows?
Didn't care much for Lego Enterprise D. But Voyager, Defiant or Enterprise E? Bought on sight, if they ever make them.
>>217862520What scale we talkin'?
>>217862465>Archer isn't the professional rock that early Picard is or Janeway is, and this shows it.What happened to Protos was completly on him.
>you have one earth hour to complywhy do the bad guys always do this and give them an out instead killing everyone while they have the chance
>>217862569The plot must march on, dear viewer
>>217862454The movies becoming more action oriented really cemented that image of it sadly.
>>217862569You always hope that the other side will do things the easy way. It's less costly and dangerous for you.
>>217862569because they're being reasonable from their perspective, not mustache twirling retards.
>>217862569Becase fair play is not dead.
>>217862569So that they may have time to reflect on your superiority.
What's your favorite weird, truly alien spaceship? Mine is Doomsday Machine. On one had, I wish we knew more about it. On the other hand, I love how little we know about it.
>>217862764Tholian ships in ENT
>>217862569*fade to black*
>>217862808*suspenseful sustained chord*
>>217862764If I was Q I would fuck it
>>217862833*bridge crew looks at the main screen and each other in horror*
>>217862275The 20th century was a time where a 130 pound woman was considered a hog. I live in Florida and I can not remember the last time I saw a woman who was not overweight or morbidly obese.
>>217862764I like the Dyson sphere from Relics
>>217862764this thing is what comes to mindI'm still just baffled how they basically tried to do the same story in SNW but their idea was to make a big evil skeletor ship instead of something, idk, that didn't look like an edgy happy meal toy
>>217862889>I live in FloridaTry Miami
>>217862894How long had Scotty been trapped in there? Some real Moriarty shit.
>>217862869*fade back in, crew assembled at a meeting table*
>>217862926*Geordi does a PowerPoint*
>>217862907Trip is from Panama City
>>217862974*Geordi has to STIG a new computer core to get an ATO and then a new RMF control overlay drops mid-scan and the ISSO ain't having any of that shit*
>>217862974*Riker repeats exactly what Geordi just said but phrased as a question*
>>217863028*Troi is there too, but doesn't contribute much if at all*
vulcan death grippin my shit
>>217863060*Data tilta his head and repeats a word questioningly*
>>217863085*Picard lets out a muted sigh and cracks a half-smile and has to explain the slang term that Data did not understand*
>>217863109*Worf suggests a direct course of action*
>>217863109(writer’s note: this slang term will later contribute to the outside-the-box solution the crew comes up with)
>>217863140*Worf's suggestion is gently rejected*
6 7, a humorous quip originating from Earth in the early 21st Century. Captain I do not understand the significance of two sequential numbers in this instance.
>>217863189hahaha
>>217863189ffs
>>217862125It's a shame. I saw this actress before and thought she was cute as hell but as soon as I heard she was Spock's long lost adoptive sister I lost all hope for what nuTrek could be.
>>217863240SHE WAS TOP OF HER CLASS AT THE ACADEMY
>>217863240And I thought ENT’s lore changed were bad!
>TOS: first officer is a science officer, other recurring bridge crew include a com officer and two helmsmen, 2nd officer is the lead engineer>TNG: first officer has no specialty, Data always at the helm despite being an engineer, only other recurring bridge officers are tactical/security>DS9: no set bridge crew besides the first officer and O'Brien (not an officer, also the only recurring enlisted man in star trek)>VOY: tom paris as full time helmsman and other than that it's just the first officer and harry kim (wtf does harry do?)>ENT: back to science officer as first officer, then a helmsman and tactical officerso there's no set logic at all to how the bridge crew works, is there?
>>217863289Honestly it’s just a meta case-by-case basis of who they casted, how important that character is, how they get promoted in-universe from S1 to S2/3, etc.
>>217863289>O'Brien (not an officer, also the only recurring enlisted man in star trek)I'm a retard and have only ever been a civilian. What is actually the difference between officers/enlisted people in military or organizations like Starfleet?
>>217863289O'Brien was demoted for unspecified reasons.
>>217863374Starfleet isn't a military.
>>217863240it's wild how nobody stopped and said 'wait we literally are writing a mary sue'
>>217863416not the military just an orginization with a massive stockpile of weapons and a bunch of trained combatants in a heirarchical command structure
>>21786291575 years, and the guy he was with didn't rematerialize at all.
>>217863416>martialEat shit.
Which race is the most bureaucratically stagnant?
>>217863374it's like the difference between going to college and being a tradesmanofficers go through officer training to command, enlisted kinda do the grunt work and make up the bulk of the force
>>217863498these guys
>>217863451Writing /the/ Mary Sue. Since the term originated from Star Trek fanfic
>>217863375What did he do?
>>217863526I can't really tell if these guys were meant to be amorphous and asymmetrical, or look like a roast bird in a black cloak. I'm kind of partial to the latter.
>>217863551Falsified his entrance paperwork as “human” when he was actually Irish
>>217863374Officers graduate from Starfleet Academy and start with the rank of Ensign. O’Brien is an NCO (non commissioned officer) which means he didn’t go to the Academy and was just a crewman who earned his rank through service and expertise but is still out ranked by an Ensign>>217863416Yes it is
>>217863551he just gave the bloody spoonheads what they deserve
>>217863551he was 10 seconds late in beaming a captain's log out of picard's lower intestine
>>217863551Caught in bed with a young Keiko
>>217863551Nothing, Picard just thought it'd be funny.
>>217846415I'm still waiting by the way...
can you imagine how bizarre a good ol' "the crew goes back in time to the present day" episode would be now
Are the Kazon a recurring race throughout the entirety of Voyager?They're fucking lame
>>217863568>but is still out ranked by an EnsignIf someone like Harry could boss me around, I would quit.
>>217863644Thankfully, no
>>217863633why can't you get the clue that you don't belong here?
>>217863498Zakdorn
>>217862425Look up videos of the "All Good Things" Enterprise toy model, it's hilarious how its hidden third nacel unfolds.
>>217863669Is this Loss?
>>217863643>beam down to major city>everyone's on their phonegreat
>>217863551Caught in bed with that Cardassian chick who fell in love with him. He was so ashamed that he made all DS9 swear they saw nothing or he would stop repairing the station.
It's a platform geared towards relevancy.
ANON AND JANNY AT TANAGRA
>>217863644one redeeming quality about kazons IMO is that they're divided into different sects as opposed to the entire race being one big teama little refreshing
>>217863644Just the first two seasons
>>217863745jej
make new
>>217857069Like it or not but nuTrek is fitting evolution of Trek. Classic Trek is boomer liberal fantasy of putting women in power and bringing millions of non-whites to America to defeat the "hateful backwards white conservatives" who were supposedly holding back progress of humanity. Doing this was supposed to usher colorblind utopia where everyone shares the geeky 120iq WASPs dream of meritocratic, atheist, science loving society made up of hypercompetent high trust people. NuTrek is the brutal reality: women are not as competent as men (including at making TV) and non-whites don't share white values. The new America that liberals created doesn't care about Trek, it's too intellectual, too mature, too boring. NuTrek is just what it looks like when Trek has to try to appeal to young latinx women by dumbing the show down to teen drama slop, and it still fails because this audience has absolutely no interest in any remotely scientific sci-fi. Trek was basically a work of propaganda that contributed to destruction of it's own vision of future.
>>217863858Demoralization anon is unlikable.
>>217864115>>217864115>>217864115
>>217861887I'll always have a soft spot for the bird of prey, simple, iconic.
>>217857930yeah that’s the point. Riker says they got tricked into taking Barclay aboard and suggests they transfer him elsewhere ASAP. But he eventually proves his worth and they keep him
