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>>217874421BENEATH THE GOLD...
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>>217874440So this is what the line of Daeron Waters "the good" (who even calls him that? Maybe the maesters) is up to, huh?
i war for she
>>217874453I remember I first read the book when I was 13 and I was absolutely devastated when she died. I put it down and didn't read more for like a week.
>>217874439the bitterSHIT
>>217874421is it true that there is more mad lannister than mad targaryen ?
>>217874472lmao thats storm of swords, literally everything makes you put it down and pace around the room swearing you won't read another page
>>217874453curse you fat man for killing her
So what is dunks chainmail/gambeson going to be like going up against people in full plate?
>>217874440Wouldn't it have been easier to diddle Egg's older sister than to troonify him?
>>217874472I lost my virginity to an older female who looked just like her. Makes you think.
>no hot bitches
>>217874541Are you sure about that?
>>217874598Ugliest Bracken maiden
>>217874519Were you underage?
>>217874508Realistically, it's a massive disadvantage, but Dunk's overwhelming size and strength somewhat make up for it
>>217874620I was like 20 but she was still 10 years older.
>>217874363Not for long.That being said, it's even worse because there's two more princes - Aerys and Rhaegel.Maekar is fourth son, Egg is fourth son of a fourth son, thus the moniker - unlikely.
>>217874598Hey... it's that chicken drumstick Wendy girl!
Is it weird Dunk still uses Arlan’s sword as late as when he’s in the reach with Ser Useless? Even though he’s like twice Arlan’s size?
>>217874670Is the cast of AKoTSK so small we’re picking out extras now?
Should add an ass shitting behind the tree for an extra +25 Defense points. Someone should paint it for him.
>>217874681a sword is a sword, you think he has the cash to pay for some custom built sword made just for him?
So did Bloodraven... uh... kill his own family? A lot of them had to get out of Aegon's way. Did Aerion just happen to have the bright idea or... was Bloodraven behind it all?
>>217874681swords arent really cheap at all. He cant afford a sword of his own
>>217874707Like so?
>>217874714no? he killed a bunch of traitors
>bookfags say this will be a quaint adventure about an irrelevant hillbilly>Targ civil war over Dunk in episode 4Th-thanks...
>>217874541you first nigga
>>217874762
>>217874654Based
>>217874421does dunk do any dishonorable deeds when it comes to killing people?
>>217874797not killing them fast enough
>>217874797>does dunk do any dishonorable deeds>does the greatest knight that ever was or ever will be do something dishonorableyou tell me fag
Cute and canon!
I must be fucking retarded speedwatcher so I'll ask this at the risk of being made fun of but can someone tell me what's with balor/balon? are they the same person or what
Thoughts on Lenny B?
>>217874924>but can someone tell me what's with balor/balon?huh?This is Baelor Targaryen, aka "Breakspear".He's crown prince.Who is this other person you're talking about?There are Baelon Targaryens, but not in the show.
>>217874439the cucked steel
>>217874933Gods we were zesty back then
>>217875004The old guy from game of thrones
>>217875027jesus fuck kill yourself
>>217874929Victarion is the funniest character gurm came up with, no cap. Made me think of re reading his chapters
>>217874776I will now worship fire.
THE BOAR IS PREGNANT!
>>217875027fucking hell how do you remember to breathe?
>>217875027I think you are thinking of Balon Greyjoy, the lord of the iron islands/king of the islands and the north/theon's father. The Greyjoys don't appear on screen in any of the Dunk and Egg novels so far.
>>217875069no what? what the fuck are you talking about?
>>217875159Thanks. It's a weird coincidence about the name though.
>>217874439THE BITTERSEETHE
>show is actually good>only 6 episodes>ip's reputation is ruined because of back to back fail shows>likely won't get another season
>>217875192Yeah, fortunately most characters in this franchise have unique names
>>217875192Looking into this.
>>217875216>>likely won't get another seasonThey already filmed season 2
>>217875216If I was running the show at HBO I would just pull the plug on House of the Doodoo and give more money to Dunk-a-kino
Why is it of the five King Aegons the three least interesting get screentime?
GoT theme>hereditary patriarchal systems of power are badHBO's take>the bad pussyThe princess and the queen/hotd crap>hereditary patriarchal power structures are bad and the person doesn't matter since they're all equally blood-thirstyHBO's take>RHAENYRA IS HILLARY CLINTONDunk & Egg>the feudal system exploits and abuses the poor, the poor are also better exemplars of the virtues espoused by the nobilityHBO's take>SCAT SCAT SCAT SCAT
>>217875388>3 and 5 are the least interestinglol, lmao even
>>217875407>hereditary patriarchal systems are bad That isn’t the theme of the book you nonce
>>217875467It literally is you fucking retard. All the kings are fucking ass that exploit the smallfolk, waging war while ignoring the real issues. But GoT has more themes too like the patriarchy is bad and shit. It's unbelievable that the hippie baby boomer Martin has duch braindead fantasy fans.
>>217875431How many chicks does V fuck in his total lifetime?
Was Aegon 1 gay?
>>217875498The story has good and bad kings and good and bad small folk and good and bad women You are a fucking midwit who wants to read your gay politics into everything At no point did GRRM insinuate in his tales that a democratic mob or a woman would be the better leader he actually shows that everyone can be both horrible or good, Westeros is just a fuedal playground he invented to make grimdark morality tales in. It’s not against patriarchy you absolute queer Also by the way “patriarchy” is just civilization, spoiler all systems of organization are patriarchy you need to read more philosophy
>>217874654Hot...
>>217874498Was the red wedding also part of that book?
>>217875004Why is he black of hair? Is he a mixed targ bastard?
>>217875599Swarm of swords is an insane book Actually the whole first thee are just absolutely great, Feast for crows slows down and meanders a bit but I presently really like feast for crows Dance is just not good at all the meandering seems to turn into wasted time and drag like GRRM has no idea where to go
>>217875407Imagine not being able to decipher the themes in George RR Martin novels lol
>>217875615By this time targs have intermarried with non targs for 200 years plenty of them aren’t blonde
>>217875662In the books is Baelor silver haired or is he black of hair in that too
>>217875069agreed. >>217875166because he is so fucking stupid>Asha smiles at him during the kingsmoot>Victarion think she wants to bang>Euron tells him we can never know we can't fly unless we try>Victarion takes him literally and tells him to kill himself >the red priest says he's seen him in the night fire, fighting but blind to the tentacles that are making him dance >Victarion tell him "I'm not a dancer"
A "storm of swords" sounds rather dangerous. It's a miracle Westeros recovered for that strange weather event.
>>217875681Assuming he has black hair I’d I never read dunk and egg, but GRRM is pretty heavy on traits like hair and eye color so I don’t think it’s been changed
>>217875592WOW YOU'RE ACTUALLY AN IDIOT HOLY SHIT IMAGINE BEING SUCH A BRAINLET
>>217875681he has black hair from his dornish mother
>>217874421Lorefags, who the fuck is the seventh guy fighting for dunk? I only counted six: Dunc, Raymund, Baelor, Lyonel, One eye guy and the guy with the broken leg. Were we even shown a seventh guy? am I stupid?
>>217874494>>217875023>>217875212Why are you guys so mean?
>>217875728Lmao excellent point >GRRM is a fat shitlib so that means his books are about the current progressive academic bugaboo about patriarchy that wasn’t popular in the 1990’s when the book was written You are the brainlet, and you don’t realize it because you are such a mid
>>217875752Chad Beesbury.
So are peasants not tied to the land in Westeros? Like i know they practically are by lack of money, family ties, tradition etc.But there’s no law that says some peasants can’t abandon Osgrey lands for someone with more money who can store more for winter and not get btfo’ed if there’s ever a conflict?
>>217875752Ser Robyn Rhysling, Ser Humfrey Hardyng, Lord Lyonel Baratheon, Ser Humfrey Beesbury, the newly-knighted Raymun Fossoway>>217875760fuck blackfyre shits
>>217875752the guy with the broken leg's brother in law, they are both named Humphrey I believe
>>217875768How related to the Beesbury in HotD?
>>217875798Directly related.
>>217874714Bloodraven is sketchy but not so sketchy as to cause a plague just for his own personal advancement. Probably.
>>217875766>this liberal boomer that's been writing liberal shit his entire life definitely didn't put politics into asoiafDo you think Jon Snow is a secret Targ prince that will save the world too? Lmao, hbo shitskin.
>>217875592>>217875467The point is that having le special magical royal blood doesn't make you a good or bad rulerThat doesn't mean that George is an anarchist, he's your average democratic shitlib, but its obvious monarchy is flawed and Daenerys thinking she is "owed" the crown is what will lead her to evil and her ultimate death (which will be handled better than season 8, obviously)That said it's one "of the" themes of asoiaf, I hate when people say "THE THEME OF X IS Y" as if a book series can have only one message and if you disagree with it then you must hate the series or you didn't get it.
>>217875771I think they are generally speaking tied toTheir lord but it doesn’t seem as explicit as like Russian serfdom where they were essentially slaves in every way The ones that seem truly tied to their lords are like knights etc but otherwise it seems pretty easy for small folk to move around if they want. In reality people were tied to their hoes mostly because nobody else would take you in more than some law, generations of organic social connections which is why banishment was a common form of punishment. It’s not like they had id’s or records etc for anyone who wast in the aristocracy or clergy
>>217874797>does dunk do any dishonorable deeds when it comes to killing people?letting a guy who tried to kill him drown is the closest. but that was 99% Bloodraven's doing and pretty justified, plus they were busy.
>>217875805
>>217875615>Why is he black of hair? Is he a mixed targ bastard?Dornish blood
>>217875808That’s the obvious plot George has set up you think you are smarter than you actually are >>217875813I would say he’s definitely not an anarchist his stuff is more fallen man abusing power and each other etc but he never seems to get preachy about the evils of monarchy or that it should be abolished And it would be absolutely was for him to throw in stupid revolutionary shit into the story but he never has
>>217875388>the Conqueror was interesting
>>217875856>And it would be absolutely was for him to throw in stupid revolutionary shit into the story but he never hasWell he is not retarded, he understands how mob rule ends in disaster and how revolutions always eat their sons, as they say.Just look at Fire and Blood and what some paesants get up to when they have the chance.He tries to present a balanced world where the flaws of many systems are exposed, this includes monarchy, oaths and honor but also many other things
>>217874727I literally clapped when my subversions were expectated
>>217875865yeah he's not too interesting honestlyhis Sister-Wives are though
>>217875768>>217875781>>217875782Who the fuck is this Beesbury guy? were we introduced to him at all? what's his motivation for helping Dunk? with everyone else the motivation is made extremely clear, does he just hate targshits?
>>217875388Look, HOTD has its issues both in the source material and the show, but you have to be actually insane to think Aegon the conqueror is more interesting than the dance of dragons. Like its not even close>And one day Aegon came with dragons and conquered everything facing little to no resistance outside of DorneWow, wonderful, I'm so fucking invested
>>217875906>Just look at Fire and Blood and what some paesants get up to when they have the chance.NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST KILL THE FIRE-BREATHING MONSTERS THAT THE DYNASTY FROM THE SLAVER EMPIRE USE TO KEEP US SUBJUGATED!
>>217875599storm of sword is everything, the red wedding, the attack on castle black, jamie and brienne the bear the hand all of it, the purple wedding, tyrion killing tywin, sansa and little finger killing lysa, bran meet sam and goes beyond the wall, sam kills an Other, the retreat from the fist of the first men, idk literally everything happens in Storm of Swords, I hate the fatman, but that book is maybe one of the greatest fantasy novels ever written
>>217875936>does he just hate targshits?Not at all, the Beesbury are one of the most honorable family in westeros, he is helping dunk because that's the honorable thing to do.
>>217875936>what's his motivation for helping Dunk?Hardying (the one Aerion killed the horse of and broke is leg) is close familyIn the novel its explained but he's still kind of just there, in fight there are some panels in the graphic novel where he's the only one missing from the panel
>>217875944They tore an infant toddler apart anonI'm not discussing the dragonFurther to prove my point, remember how Astapor ended up after Dany freed all the slaves and essentially established mob rule?Yeah, that makes it pretty clear how George views the "lets just kill the ruling class lol" position
>BRAAAAAAAAPExpectations subverted once again, genius.
>>217875979Subversions expectated, bravo Grrm
>>217875805He's not sketchy, he just does whatever it takes to protect his family that's why he executes a blackfyre under a peace banner, he takes no chances, but he still accepted it when Egg sends him to the wall as punishment.People forget he's extremely grateful to Daeron for allowing him and his mom to stay at the Red Keep despite being his bastard brother and how their mothers became friends despite one being the mistress and the other being the wife of the king. Bloodraven also grew up alongside his nephews Baelor and Maekar, I think it's fitting for a bastard like him to want to protect the family that accepted him no matter what.
>>217875947Tru
>>217875979I was actually hyped for a split second when they said>ITS THE BRUTE OF BRACKENBut a part of me expected the joke
I need a new episode bros...
>>217875856>never preachyBruh
>>217876008>he just does whatever it takes to protect his familyBlackfyres are just as much of his family as the targsHe has no shame, hunting down the kids too, he's absolutely an evil motherfucker and I'm 95% sure Martin would reveal it in Winds (if the book ever comes out)
>>217875944Nobody said what the peasants did wasn’t understandable Signs of a small intellect you have a hard time holding multiple contradictory ideas in your head at the same time, exploring concepts without condoning or advocating for them.It’s understandable the way all the various factions act and feel and that’s what Grrm is good at You can empathize with the plight of th conquered and still recognize mob violence and child murder isn’t justified you plebeian
>>217876009i didn't even mention the essos stuff its also dany killing the slavers with her trick, revealing baristan, the siege of mereen storm of swords is insane
>>217876036>He has no shame, hunting down the kids too, he's absolutely an evil motherfucker and I'm 95% sure Martin would reveal it in Winds (if the book ever comes out)He was a pretty cool guy in life but I think he's going to jump into Bran and ride him right onto the throne. Or at least that's what would happen if the books were ever finished.
>>217876030When does GRRM have charecters express revolutionary liberal ideas?Yeah he has people who hate the crown and people who hate specific nobility etc but it’s in a way that’s understandable in universe it’s not some self insert “see this is why we must overthrow the kings and go back to when the first men used to have democracy and women’s rights!” Again he could easily add those kinds of plots and weaker fantasy foes but he doesn’t. Try to seperate GRRM the man from what’s in his actual storie
>>217876036Traitors to their own family and usurpers, that's what they are. Arrows away!
>>217876036Backfyres are literal usurpers and rebels
>>217874440I started laughing at this scene too and got in trouble for it.Cider guy is the best most relatable character in GoT.>KNIGHT MEGoing to kill his fookin cousin for being dishonorable he is.
>>2178761451 - That's not the point I was countering, they are still his family just as much as the targs2 - It's not like Bloodraven spent himself to reconcile with the rest after Daemon's death, he proceeded to hunt them down (again, his family) like dogs (something Daemon himself would have never done to the rest of Targaryens had he won)
>>217876186Unsubstantiated pure Speculation
>>217876186Tbf Blackfyres kept starting shit up after getting BTFO each time. Bloodraven was doing his job as Hand and Protector of the Realm.
>>217876186>they are still his family just as much as the targswrong
Where is the magic?
>>217875760I don't know, why is that bastard usurping the throne?
>>217875760BFS deserve it
>>217876186Lies, he let one of Daemon's sons live despite trying to rebel.
>>217876186Maybe that's why the Targs crushed every gayfyre rebellion lmao
>>217876186The Blackfyre is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a scoundrel, usurper, bastard, traitor, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But loose bolts at him with your crossbowmen and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how stymied his rebellion is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I've been slain!
>>217876288I doubt the one outfit most peasants wore every single day while sharing their houses with pigs and laboring in the mud stayed vibrant for long
>>217876322>"I've been slain!
>>217876288lmao just imagine posting this in a dunk thread
You guys are going to shit yourselves when winds finally releases (LOL) and its made canon that Bloodraven was a villain all alongFuck you, go fuck yourselves
>>217876322From the glimpse in HOTD, I am glad that they are removing the eyepatch. Having two one-eyed Targ edgelords would be too much.
>>217876385Kinda sad the blackfyre shits have to cope like this lmao.
I’ve been waiting for the moment when the small folk show support for Dunk, does that happen right before the battle or did they cut it?
>>217876385>are you the three-eyed crow?>uh yeah I guess kid, now shut the fuck up and eat this pasteBRAVO BLOOD RAVEN
>>217876288need more people calling each other cunts
>>217876468It'll be before the trial begins but the old man will shit his pants
>>217876471>using brann to destroy the last blackfyre (now larping as a targaryan because no one gives a shit about blackfyre cucks)Dunno sound like a good guy to me.
>>217876334The Middle Ages being dirty and dingy is basically completely bullshit A lot of what we think of the feudal era is historical slander that enlightenment era thinkers and academics applied to the past to justify the liberal revolutions Sure violent overthrow of the state/monarchy and a total restructuring of society was extreme but don’t you know how Baaaaad the kids were! Don’t you junk how awful it was in the past They said to factory workers dying of black lung crammed 12 people to a room
So Dany is a Blackfyre and Aegon is Rhaegar's son, right?
>>217875813>thinking the throne is yours by right means you will turn evil.So Stannis will turn evil as well?
>>217876525>The Middle Ages being dirty and dingy is basically completely bullshitDem niggas forgot all of roman sanitation and their cities did not not have canalization either. It's not a myth that he dark ages were dirty as fuck. It was almost as bad as India is today.
>>217876557No.
>>217876571>thinking the throne is yours by right means you will turn evilIf you think this right gives you justification to slaughter thousands yes>So Stannis will turn evil as well?..yes? I wouldn't say "evil" but the burning of shireen WILL happen
>>217876385>beneath the cope, the bitter seethe
>>217876580Dany is obviously not a Targaryan, her childhood memories don't add up.>warm weather, lemon trees and the red door in Braavos of all places
>>217876557John is Aegon, Danny is daughter to the mad king (technically John’s aunt) Aegon with the golden company is a fraud Rheagar is John’s actual father A sperg will claim this isn’t confirmed but it literally is confirmed
>>217876614>>217876615this nigga is rightfat fuck is not playing a 5d chess and people cracked the code decades ago
217876615Lmao what a retard
Why is he so hotI bet he has an untrimmed bush
>>217876578People think the ancient world was way cleaner than it actually was. Roman baths operated in many European cities well into the Middle Ages and despite losing a lot of aqueducts they didn’t stop washing clothes, and the wealthy bathed regularly.The Middle Ages was famously colorful to a degree modern people would find garish
>>217876604>any pursuit of power is evil inherently Retarded liberal brain rot
>>217876638Slimy uncut cock too no doubt
Dany is a greyjoy
>>217876615What’s funny is that while that was true, its been so long he’s probably going to change it and people will say everyone who say R+L=J weren’t right or got tricked
Why do you morons still watch this shit?D+D fucked the charm.Condal fucked their second chance.Now this? It will fuck up too. ALL George had to do what be more involved and actually put his foot down for once. He’s the epitome of the soft white boomer who lets everything slide. “We were immigrants once, so all brown immigrants are like us too, right?”. NO you adorably soft, sensitive old FOOL. White people are too soft. They let others including their own butcher their works, and this extends to culture and society as a whole.
>>217876614She was born at sea crossing the narrow sea in flight from Westeros while the rest of her family was killed in kings landing
>>217876667>any pursuit of power is evil inherentlyI didn't say thatBut unless she has objective proof to be a better ruler than whoever is ruling, yes, the pursuit of power is selfish and serves no purpose beyond slaughter>Retarded liberal brain rotYou're fucking retarded. This is the conservative position, to not destroy everything because of petty whims and base desires, you would have supported Robespierre, you fucking moron
>>217876715ALL George had to do was* be more involved
>>217876692Balon would still be her ancestor
>>217876715He was involved in hotd until they blocked him to push their girl power bullshit he is very involved with the current show
>>217876723Nah, she's a Lyseni street urchin that Illyrio picked up.
>>217876741True. Illyrio probably funded the """greyjoy""" rebellion. It was his first crack at restoring the targs.
>>217874439>BENEATH THE GOLD...
https://x.com/PunishedTyke/status/2020714933558907371
>>217874681>Ser Useless
>>217876728>unless you can prove you’ll be “better”Before you actually rule to literally who random hoi peloi it’s selfish and bad >thinks I’m saying liberal in the context of today’s mob politics Lmao faggot liberal as in the ideology of our whole society, conservatives are also liberals, communists are liberals, fascists are liberals It’s an incoherent retarded ideology you are not ready for this discussion read more >>217876768I’d be willing to entertain it if she didn’t have magical dragon powers
>>217876810No anon, just because its not christian monarchy doesn't mean it's all the same under the umbrella of "liberal", you fucking retard. > you are not ready for this discussion read moreMore twitter le based posts like you? I read actual philosphy, not retarded brainrot.Thinking "it's all le same" is peak midwittery.
>>217875027>The old guy from game of thronesI'm guessing you mean Maester Aemon? He'd Egg's older brother.
>>217876604>If you think this right gives you justification to slaughter thousands yesMeh, I feel like judging feudal kings from medieval times with a modern lens is just an effort in futility. King Henry V killed thousands of French but was seen as one of the greatest kings of England. Stuff like that was the norm back then so just labeling them “le evil” is just rather silly to me.
>>217876810>I’d be willing to entertain it if she didn’t have magical dragon powersWhat dragon powers? kek. Even fatman said that the eggs hatching was just a coincidence and the product of various things happening just the right way like someone cooking a dish blindly without a recipe and lucking out.
>>217876849This has nothing to do with Christian monarchy or being based this is just political theory Every country of note in the modern world is a some form of liberal I’m sorry if this hurts your feelings
>>217875216>likely won't get another seasonWe'll get three seasons of Dunk & Egg that follow the three novellas Gurm wrote but after that, it depends on how HBO uses Gurm's notes for future books.They'll probably fuck up S04 and that will be the end of the series.
>>217876873She’s immune to burning
>>217876557Betha Blackwood is a blackfyre bastardegg fucked a blackfyre
>>217876872Obviously yes, George presents the perspective of these characters trough medieval lenses, but it's obviously intended to be critical of the system, which will again be proven by Dany following her "blood right" to the grave which was my point.In universe, Stannis is not evil, not compared to the society he abides the rules of. But his ideas will lead him to commit atrocities in the name of justice. (mind you, I'm a stannisfag)
>>217876899If Gurm can't write another short story in the time that it will take the show to write, cast, prepare, film, edit and market two more seasons then he deserves all the shit Condal and D&D did to his work.
>>217876884>this is just political theoryInvented by yours trulyEither define what is liberal in a way that fits every single country and ideology and then why its logically incoherent as you claim, or fuck off.This:>I won't explain because I'm just too smart, just read the basics, read more (won't say which books)Doesn't fool anyone, everyone can see you are just retarded. The "read more lol" without giving any book reccomendation is the dead givaway of someone tacitly admitting defeat in a conversation
>>217876899Thought he'd already had a couple written and just didn't publish them (presumably because he wanted more than three ig)?
>>217876914She's heat resistant not immune, and many targ dragonriders got turned to crisp so it's not a requirement for the dragons to obey someone. She's just some Lyseni or Volantene high family's bastard street rat.
>>217876965At its base liberalism is the idea that all unchosen bonds are oppressive and need to be mitigated or cast off entirely From this you get every modern ideology that exists today We are all various branches off the liberal tree
The way Ser Stevron prances away like a faggot kills me
>>217876728>unless she has objective proof to be a better ruler than whoever is rulingStannis and Dany are objectively better rulers than Joffery and Tommen yes.
>>217876715>white people will rise up if I just stopped watching A Knight of the Seven Kingdomslolguess you'll stay down on the ground a while longer then
....semoc eH
>>217877046No they are not.
>>217877009>At its base liberalism is the idea that all unchosen bonds are oppressiveThat doesn't fit any of the ideologies you mentionedFascism considers the unchosen bond of a citizen to the state as great, same as the unchosen bond to one's nation or raceCommunism straight up REVERSES what you said, they considers voluntary bonds (worker - business owner) as oppressive while unchosen bonds (worker - the people, the collective) as non oppressive in natureThe only ideology that follows that pattern is classical liberalism leading into libertarianism (rebellion against the non voluntary bond to the state) which clearly isn't in power considering the state, the nation and variations of belief in unchosen bonds exist in conservatism (family, nation), social democracy (class, collective), etc etcSo congratulations, you self owned and proved you haven't read a single page of political theory in your whole life, you moron. The simple fact you pay taxes is proof that unchosen bonds are ideologically enforced by every regime on earth, contrary to your definition of liberalism.
>>217877046Stannis arguably isDany has left ruin in her wake in essos everywhere she went, but that's beyond the point because she won't find Joffrey but Aegon seated on the throne, and will take the throne out of lust for power not to save westeros.
Does anyone here paypig for AltShiftX/Glidus? I wanna know if the extended Dunk Time/Dragon Time videos are worth it. I like having them on for background noise.
>>217876995She is shown being engulfed in flames to the point her clothes and hair burn off but her skin is unharmed That’s magic nigga
>>217875771>So are peasants not tied to the land in Westeros?No, we see thousands of peasants fleeing to Kingslanding because of the war in the Riverlands.The problem with a peasant leaving his lord's lands is that other peasants and lords won't want them, as feudalism resulted in a very close knit society where everybody in a village knew everybody else and intermarried and besides, there was only so much land to go around. More people = more mouths to feed.
>In the name of the Bane, I charge you to be large
>>217877099>you They are all liberal ideologies you just don’t understand it, as I said before read more, sperg less homo
>>217877130Many criticisms can be given towards D&D, but they didn't force us to endure Bald Dany, and for that I am so grateful
>>217877122Look up for "Glidus" on kemono, some paywalled stuff gets reuploaded there
>>217877130>That’s magic nigga
Might be impractical but they should've recasted Dany every season to keep her fresh and young
>>217877183Emilia Clarke was fine, as long as she kept her eyebrows under control
>>217877174GRRM is a nonce
>>217877183and so we return to the jeet problem
>>217877183Honestly I think of an even better solution: make it animatedIt's cool and you don't have to bother with such problems, and dragons cost the same money as non dragons.Sure, you lose on some cool stuff like Charles Dance acting but the payoff is better.
>>217877183Why the story takes place over like 5 years she goes from 14 to 19 over the course of the war
>>217876149>got in trouble for itGot in trouble with who?? Are you underage and watching with your parents?
>>217876284>Lies, he let one of Daemon's sons live despite trying to rebel.That was strategery.
Will this series have cute girls?
>>217874933I can see why everyone wants a Baratheon bro
Raymun Fossoway is the realest nigga in the 7 kingdoms my god
>>217877286In other seasons
>>217876385>You guys are going to shit yourselves when winds finally releases (LOL)I'll be squatting in the grass all right
>>217877115We’ll see. George likes to change his mind a lot.
>>217877292you stupid bitch
>I volunteer to die right now, for no reason
>>217875025>>217874933Why are they so effortlessly the best house in westeros, every single time?
>>217877306>for no reasonyou're a woman
>>217877306It was retarded that either of them were willing to die over that. The Tarly's in the books are clearly secretly pulling for Faegon so they're clearly not opposed to having Targ rule again.
>>217877329faegon doesnt exist in the show tho
>>217877306>Ghost, my loyal animal, you have followed me in battle for 8 seasons and I can literally warg into you at times but you must understand, I have a dragon now (who will die before the episode ends) so I simply have to abandon you, hope Tormund takes good care of you, goodbye
>>2178771524 u
I'm gonna get some cider for next episode to honor the green apple
I don't trust google so I'll ask it here: what's the deal with the fat man's initials? Is he aping Jorge RR Tolkien or did his parents really give him the double R's as well by sheer coincidence?
>>217877340I'm just saying it's retarded that he refused to bend the knee when the book character is already working to supplant the Lannister's to install (who he thinks is) a different Targ.
>>217877286I hope they don't fuck up Rohanne
>>217877306literally me
>>217877340To it's detriment
>>217877329>>217877340Them siding with Cersei despite her blowing up the sept and killing multiple Tyrells including their liege lord was stupid. It made Randyll look like just a hypocritical opportunist.
>>217877382just the way of fat fuck to let us know he is inconsequential
>>217877395The whole scene is fucking stupid and serves no purpose other than to make Dany "look monstrous" or something even though they literally gave her no other choice, which causes Varys and Tyrion to start to betray her.
>SER ROBYN WOULD GLADLY FIGHT FOR THE CROWN, BUT WHEN THE CROWN GOES AGAINST THE GODS, SER ROBYN GOES AGAINST THE CROWNI like how Dunk just goes "okay I've got a schizo on my team, I'll just take that, moving on.."
>>217877395>It made Randyll look like just a hypocritical opportunist.Well ya. Jaimie offers to make the Tarlys the new Lords Paramount of the Reach now that the Tyrells are extinct. (I'm sure the Hightowers will be just fine with this)
>>217877382It's incredible how many terrible decisions can be traced back to seasons 4 and 5 but specifically 5fAegon not existing makes Varys fucking pointless and Dany "going bad" impossibleEuron being finger in the bum makes the whole ironborn plotline fucking pointlessDorne, the whole of Dorne, whatever the fuck that was.The Tysha confession not being there makes Tyrion and Jaime's characters completely aimless going forwardsPeople say the show went bad when they ran out of books but its not true, they meticolously planned its destruction as soon as the season 4 finale / the whole of season 5
>>217877376They didn't
>>217877366Born GRM, but for his confirmation at 13 years old he picked another middle name turning him into GRRM.At that time Return of The King was already 6 years old.I think it's very likely that he chose a name with R specifically so he'd be RR Martin just like RR Tolkien.If he'd remember or admit that I don't know.
>>217877115Daenerys also has a pattern of thinking she’s owed rulership over places she knows nothing about (and would therefore only ruin with her ignorance), and when she’s finally confronted with the reality of how terribly out of her depth and unwelcome she is, she just spergs out and runs away. This makes her pretty different from most good to decent rulers we’ve seen so far, regardless of her personal compassion and some good intentions.
>>217877448I'll choose to believe you. If he did it at that young of an age it's fair play I guess
>>217877418>People say the show went bad when they ran out of books but its not trueThey were making very bad decisions as early as Season 2 that were big red flags. They changed things from the book that had no defensible purpose except making the story worse, and this just snowballed from there as their success gave them more and more confidence to continue doing this. Replacing Jeyne Westerling with some nonsense essosi war nurse character was probably the first canary in the coal mine.
>>217877413It’s not like he has many knights to choose from.
>>217877311Orys Baratheon should unironically be the main character of Aegon's conquest show/movie/whatever -- basically taking the role of Jon Showif they gonna adapt Maegor's wars Rogar Baratheon will be huge in that both supporting Jaeherhys and then going against him (arguably Baratheons' first rebellion, Lyonel making second and Robert finally finishing them off)
>>217877418>People say the show went bad when they ran out of books but its not true, they meticolously planned its destruction as soon as the season 4 finale / the whole of season 5It's better to say that they ran out of GOOD books. Adapting AFFC and ADWD is rough because 1/3rd of them are Brienne and Tyrion's long, pointless journeys and another 1/3rd are new characters with little connection to the previous ones. Yes let's spend 3 episodes on Quentyn Martell only for him to die stupidly, that's just great!
>>217877518You don't understand, it's for muh themes!
>>217876950>If Gurm can't write another short storyIt's been _30 years_ since A Game Of Thrones was released, Gurm ain't writing shit.>>217876976>Thought he'd already had a couple writtenRumor is that Gurm has almost finished the fourth Dunk & Egg book (She Wolves of Winterfell) so maybe HBO doesn't fuck that up too bad but they've fucked up this first season plenty, despite having finished stories to work with.Modern Hollywood is utterly incapable of simply adapting a story, they feel compelled to change it in shitty retarded ways to put their own stamp on it and Gurm is too much of a pussy (and signed a shitty contract) to put the breaks on them.
>>217877518Quentyn being cut is ok, fAegon is notTyrion also has a pointless season 5 but it's shit because instead of being brooding and vengeful he is just a flanderized "I drink and know things" version of himselfI'm not saying feast and dance are easy to adapt, but was show euron really more entertaining than book euron?
>>217877132But you also need peasants to work the land so doesn’t more peasants=more money and security so long as they aren’t dead weight?Like it seems like thats probably what saves them in the winter is that the lord is economically fucked if all his peasants die like they were after the black death so they have to lay in emergency stores
>>217877423Too old.
>>217876604>the burning of shireen WILL happenHow? Last I heard she was safe at the wall while his army was already marching to its doom.
>>217877518Absolutely, and they are competent writers when they want to be. They just quit giving a shit. George's books went totally off the rails in Feast. I can’t believe anyone watches GoT and think it needs three more greyjoys and another dwarf to save it.
>>217877684She might get burnt, but not by Stannis. That's a change I'm sure they did because DnD never liked him much and knew it would be shocking for the audience.
>>217877684Presumably Stannis will live and come back. Or someone else is responsible for burning Shireen but D+D hated Stannis so much that they made him do it.Darkest possibility is Melisandre doing it on her own initiative to revive Jon
>>217875947>the purple weddingWhat is the purple wedding again?
>>217877765Joffrey turning purple as he choked
>>217877765Joffrey/Margaery
>>217876715>>217876735It's pretty fucked that he was always a "TV guy" that was writing to fund that career, but then when his writing gets adapted to TV suddenly he is hand-off. He ought to have been producing every single episode.>>217877733>>217877738They unironically probably only hated him because he was /pol/'s darling. Never considered that spoiler angle. Interesting.
>>217877518Quentyn's fate would be perfect for the type of audience GoT had cultivated so far. A new character who's there to finally help Dany and to offer her a way to Westeros for her to take her whole party, while also becoming a dragon rider himself after being hyped to be also blood of Valyria... and then expectations get crushed too. This could have helped to introduce Dorne as an enemy of Dany, which is exact what is likely to happen in the books. They just didn't trust the material.
>>217874689it is small. >picking few extrasI hope some autist take on that project. More chicken drumstick girl please.
>>217877639>more peasants=more money and securityMore LAND = more money and security.The economy back in oldy timey days was 99% agricultural, you couldn't really just walk away and "get another job" if the one you had sucked.
Did d&d dislike Stannis or did they dislike the actor because he didn’t like the show?
>>217877773Got it, I never read the books and only started watching GoT after the red wedding reaction went viral. When I watched the purple wedding I just assumed that was the red wedding, so when the red wedding actually happened it took me completely by surprise and I was truly devasted. GoT show peaked there imo, it could never hit that level again
>>217877825But unworked land is literally useless thats the point, they need the peasants to work it
>>217877830They didn't give a fuck about Stannis, George told them he was going to die so they killed his ass.
>>217876668Dunk needs to be taller, egg needs to be shorter
It's so weird that not more Targaryens have personalised sigils. For a king to have a simple 3 headed dragon shure but fo others? It should be CoA galery.
>>217876851Was he like 150 years old when he died?
>>217876673one of the lore books make it clear that circumcision isn't practiced in Westeros and is seen as a foreign weird customI wonder how the average american public who doesn't really know a thing about history reacts when they watch historical or fantasy shows and they see the practice is highly uncommon
>>217877311they're right in the middle of it.
>>217877471Talisa is Claire from Outlander. I dunno if that show was already in pre production by then, but she's highly "inspired" by her. When people say she feels too modern for the setting, it's because Claire is a woman from the 1940s living in 18th Century Scotland, just like Talisa feels like a WW2 nurse who randomly ended up in Westeros. FYI, the writer of Outlander and Martin at close friends.
>>217877895americans didn't even practice circumcision for most of their history, it only really became a thing by the end of the 19th/ early 20th century
>what if farting and pooping and spitting and vomiting
>>217877913there were almost no jews in the US until 1900 when they started flooding in, 5 million entering by 1950vefore that there had been around 100k
>>217876638Nah, valarr > that cuck.
>>217877885Usually you want to align with the dynasty. Dudes creating their own sigils is a sign of a splintering house.
>>217877895>>217877913>>217877951Nobody cares
>>217877830While the show was airing Stannis became 4chan's favorite, kind of like how the Fakebook normies would drool over Dany. 4chan is all about the pedosatanic elite sacrificing children to Moloch, this pissed D&D off, so they changed the story to make Stannis a Molochite as a fuck you to this portion of the fanbase. It is known.
>>217874421The Blackfyres? More like the Seethefyres
>>217877980>Dudes creating their own sigils is a sign of a splintering house.Or a preponderance of cadet branches, like with the Freys, just by sheer dint of numbers of titled progeny.
>>217877798They hated him because they didn't understand his character. They thought his seriousness was the same as being a bad person. Idiots tend to see serious people are not good enough. Same for his strict values. They don't understand that while he was always like this, losing his parents made him more bitter and that's why he lost his faith and adopted Melissandre's. They don't get either that he's always been overshadowed by his brother to the point he was found in his bed with some woman the same night of his wedding and how Renly mocked his wife too. And on top of it, his only daughter got sick. He's a man who's only resisted the bad by becoming strong.
Targaryens? More like the TARDgaryens
>>217877230Charles Dance can always voice Tywin if they make it animated eventually.
>>217877987meds
ep 1 had shitting, ep2 had penis, ep3 had vomiting, ep4 had farting; what are our predictions for episode 5?
>>217877987
All I ever wanted was to see fight at the fist in all it’s glory and these fucking animals gave us Hardhome instead. Why would they spit in the faces of their fans like this?
>>217878051I know, right? 4chan is all about Dagon, not Moloch. Fucking newfags always fuck up the paganism here.
>>217878068Vomiting 2.0
>>217877518>Adapting AFFC and ADWD is rough because 1/3rd of them are Brienne and Tyrion's long, pointless journeysOk, here's 5 episodes of Brienne standing near Winterfell doing nothing instead of fighting bandits, getting shat on by Randyll Tarly and listening to baller anti-war speeches, hope you're happy.> and another 1/3rd are new characters with little connection to the previous onesArianne? Victarion? They're directly connected to Oberyn and Theon and Asha. And they're exactly as retarded and sex/fight-crazed as half of D&D characters so i don't even know what was the point of cutting them. John Connington is a pretty great character and you'll only need to cast a great actor to make people care about him. Quentyn yeah, not much going for him, but the ending with him burning would've been far better than Tyrion releasing the dragons with zero consequences. And anyway, most of Season 5 IS adapting AFFC and ADWD but in a very boring, contrived and spiteful manner. Hardhome was their one good decision and even then it doesn't make much sense for Jon to be there and for Thorne to let all his wildlings through the wall.
>>217878068>>217878119Ep6 we will get live cum on screen
How/where did they find dunk? In a randok bar while he hangs out? Is there any audition tape?
>>217875212It's really funny to me that he's an albino, but since he's also a Targ nobody notices.
>>217878172With pic related according to the previous thread. He was a rugby player previously.
>>217877849>But unworked land is literally uselessAll the land is owned by somebody, the local lord can't just expand his holdings wherever he wants.
>>217877890>Was he like 150 years old when he died?Just over 100 and Maester Aemon dies soon after.
>>217878196>implying Dunk didn't inject some Dunk-genes into the Lannister line
>>217878027God i want to facefuck her so bad...
>>217877830D&D hated stannis, barristan and daenerys
the house of goyslop sends its regards
>>217878196Isn't this kind of gay?
>>217878239s3 is going to flop so hard they are going to be forced to promote dunc and egg
>>217875686>StupidWhat? He's smart as he'll>Smart enough to continue the work of his brother since Balon was popular (lost to magic horn tho)>Realizes that Euron is gifting things to his crew to take his men away from him>Has theological debates and analysis in his head about whether the drowned god killing people off the Island of Cedars is a good or bad thing for him>Smart enough to use a Red Priest and smart enough to make a sacrifice to Red and Drowned god for double God-buff.
Everything changes when you accept Qorin Halfhand was Ser Arthur Dayne.
>>217878239fake newsmany such casesSad!
>>217878211He did not. But his genes survived through the Tarths somehow.
>>217878198>perceptiveDunk isn't perceptive.
>>217878277TV producers live in their own little worlds and care about their own fiefdoms, they will happily nerf this show. They've already shown it no thought by giving it no budget and 20 minute episodes.same thing happened with Andor- powerful people in goy wars got mad that people liked it more than their other trash so they binned it
>>217878119Nose-picking, and booger-eating. Probably from a minor male character
>>217878321dunc and egg is far more popular than andor tho, I know the andor fans love it but it wasnt particularly popular
>>217878198>any ethnicity
>>217878346They have to put that there, brainlet.
Your commander, ser
>>217878216Shagwell/Rorge/Jaime/Podrick...
>>217878403>implying they wouldn't willingly destroy a show for political purposes
why did ramsay torture theon so much anyway
>>217878454i'm not implying anything, you annoying faggot. i'm saying they have to put that there because if they don't, they'll be accused of racism. the show should speak for itself on whether or not they're brownwashing.
>>217878403>>217878552>casting teams have to involuntarily waste their time with dozens of candidates they know they’re not going to cast to appease DEI sensibilitiesI hate progressives.
>>217878527Guy with a flayed man as his sigil is unsurprisingly an edgelord freak and sadist. Makes you wonder why D&D loved him so much.
Eustace, Alysanne Osgrey, Longinch (?)
>>217878239… what? >the show is so popular it will get cancelled The fuck?
>>217878858>no frecklesit's shit.
>>217878446YJK Randyll wanted a piece of that as well and was frustrated with himself for what he deemed "unnatural" urges.
>>217878889its fake >>217878858the first guy seems appropriate for the Chequey Lion
>>217878858eUSTACE BASED
6 days
>>217874421new thread>>217879064>>217879064>>217879064
>>217879037A DOOR??!?!?!
>>217878263How so? Both the ancestor and descendant couples are straight. Maybe kind of trans if you read way way way way way too much into the sex flipping. Also Jaime is pretty and Brienne is ugly butch.
>>217879037are they going to change it for the show or leave it as is from the books?I didn't read the books but just read the big spoiler from the book.
i miss joffery so much its unrealgenerational role
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