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Insurrection Edition

previously: >>217864115
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star trek sex with shran
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I literally don't remember this.
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>>217878597
Insurrection
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You know what nutrek could do that I'd watch? Klingon cooking show. Set during Kirk's era and made as in-universe propaganda.
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>>217878581
holy shit is that the guy who killed mozart??
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>>217878704
but klingons don't cook they food
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>>217878730
They don't even kill it sometimes.
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>>217878581
PRACTICE!
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How awful must the replicator food be? Nobody has the chance to experiment with their own herbs and spices. At least voyager had a cook.
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>>217878704
>Klingon Top Chef where the chefs accuse each other of cooking without honor
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>>217878804
>In the final round the surprise ingredient is the heart of the chef who was eliminated in the previous round
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>The Ma'quis getting shafted because of a treaty
>Picard: We can't help them. We must uphold the rule of law and the treaties established by the Federation. It's for the sake of the larger peace.
>some pretty white woman looking alien from Insurrection asks for help
>Picard: WE MUST TAKE A STAND! WE WILL FIGHT TO THE LAST BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, FUCK THE FEDERATION!
Insurrection in a nutshell
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>>217878786
There's probably tons of people who like the feeling of making their own food. You just don't see much of it in Starfleet because they're so busy.
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>>217878581
Would
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>>217878872
Insurrection is such an annoying movie with its preaching, and BaKu are a bunch of sanctimonious assholes.
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>>217878709
We could have got any Starfleet cadet to do it. 50 bucks!
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>>217878730
They roast targ. I see gagh, racht, and the like as the Klingon equivalent of sushi, but otherwise I don't see them as a people focusing entirely on dishes prepared to prioritize the freshness of it.
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>>217878786
Replicator food being bad always sounded like major cope to me in a universe where they convert stuff between energy and matter all fucking day long.
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I love T’Pol!
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>>217879069
>>217878879
>>217878786

Was there ever a reason given why replicators couldnt do the same thing with living beings?
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>>217878786
I've noticed nearly all fast food tastes measurably worse than it did 10 years ago. I can taste the different oils and cheeses they use to save money. So I imagine that's how people feel about replicated food. Not quite the same but good enough.
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>>217878543
A beautifully sad post.
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fresh fruits and vegetables are still alive when you eat them. if i replicate a stalk of celery is it alive? did the replicator just create life?
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>>217879204
the molecules are rearranged
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>>217878581
I wish I controlled the franchise. I could give them a series which would bring back all the fans
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>>217879259
let's hear your pitch
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>>217879204
>fresh fruits and vegetables are still alive when you eat them
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>create a digital being who's meant to represent the typical 17-year-old female human
>make it look like this for some reason
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>>217879125
Or it’s just that it’s always the same and the characters are people who were so desperate for excitement and new things they joined the military.
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>>217878535
>they’re genetically designed to pick cotton!
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>>217879259
It's very obvious they don't want the old fans
back. Every franchise aimed at a certain demographic is being destroyed in real time. How come The Muppets can have a great revival and totally avoid modern trends, but not Star Trek?
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>>217879322
Pot of greed lookin ass ho
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>>217879314
>The federation exists and is good
>The series focuses on the crew of a starfleet ship which is composed of skilled highly-trained individuals who conduct themselves like mature adults
>Mostly episodic, focusing on various encounters with alien civilizations which challenge the crew's values and sense of ethics
>It's fun
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>>217879392
sounds too risky, the world isn't ready for that kind of radical tv format.
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>>217879386
It's insane to me that in 2026 with all the advances in special effects and costuming that have happened, they cannot manage to make a Klingon that doesn't look like his face is made of cut up plastic dinner plates that have been glued together and then colored with a sharpie.
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>>217879314
>make new episodes with the same techniques and cameras of the stuff people liked but call it aesthetic and market it to zoomers
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>>217879387
Sorry that's on me, I used an unflattering photo
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>>217879476
Idk who the hyper clean design wave was made for in the last decade or so. I think it was a predictive measure so AI can replicate media better
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>>217879537
>The black woman’s creed
This explains experiences at the DMV so much.
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>>217879565
>I think it was a predictive measure so AI can replicate media better
That and flat minimalism scales better to mobile displays.
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>Hey guys I know super 9/11 just happened and completely fucked the entire god damned galaxy beyond repair and everything is bad an awful now, but we made time travel super duper illegal so we can't fix it, sorry guys it's just not in the cards.
>No, the time travel police we used to have specifically to prevent criminals from using time travel don't exist anymore, we blew up all our time machines so now criminals can't use time travel either because we made laws saying they can't

This might be the single most retarded plot point Kurtzman wants me to accept about his dumbass version of the Star Trek timeline.
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>>217879322
How could you not see a smile like that and feel contagious joy? Yeah shes uggo but come on man, have some mirror neurons
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>romulan refugees
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>klingon refugees
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>>217879565
>>217879650
minimalist design makes sense for things like graphic design, even if I think it looks objectively worse in a lot of cases than the alternative, I understand the appeal of using it.

How people can look at shit like >>217879386 and not think it looks like absolute fucking ass is beyond me though.
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>>217879756
looks like a commercial for gay
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Star Trek is dead, but who is even left at this point with the skill to save it?
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>>217879119
Like generate parts? It's stated that they can. Geordi could have had real eyes. Presumably there are restrictions on trying to make whole lifeforms.

Nobody really gets into it because it's basically the Bones p-zombie thing with transporters.

People try to argue energy usage as a reasoning for some of this stuff, but that doesn't really hold up in most cases either. You basically have to admit that the Federation is just a friendly pod-world where energy is the true currency and only the elites are allowed the good stuff.
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>>217879884
It's a no-go. A major cultural shift is needed.
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>>217879884
The goal will always be to widen the audience and squeeze as much money out of it because having a smaller, but more dedicated fanbase isn't good enough.
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>>217879884
Nobody. Television is a dead medium, there's nobody with talent left in the entire fucking business.
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>>217879387
cannot unsee
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>>217879322
>>217879386
>>217879537
>>217879557
>this is going to happen to Stargate next
kill me
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>>217879259
Prove it. Give me your pitch.
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>>217880105
>Star Trek
>Written by people who like Star Trek
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>>217880073
AMANUET
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>>217880073
BAAH!
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>>217880105
The signatories of the temporal accords agree to undo the burn and everything that takes place after the 29th century is undone. Start a new series taking place in the 2420s, same seasonal budget as the other new shows but spread over twice as many episodes instead of going into effects. Character driven with a strong ensemble cast designed to play off each other, episodic with a few potential plotlines for serialized storytelling sprinkled around. If any of them resonate they can be expanded on.
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>>217879077
BASED
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I'm about to watch Picard so that I can be more informed when I call it shit. Any episodes of good Trek I should rewatch to have fresh in my mind first?
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>>217880670
>Any episodes of good Trek I should rewatch to have fresh in my mind first?
No. Literally none of them would be relevant and you'd just be making yourself suffer worse from the whiplash from good to shit.
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>>217879884
The D&D movie makers are making a new movie. The movie was fun so hope they can pull something off thats adventure focused and exciting
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>>217880670
Tapestry, he bangs a 17 year old
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>>217880711
Wonder if they'll want to bring Pine back or they'll fresh start reboot it
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is it gay if i get teary eyed when Picard sees his mom in Where No One Has Gone Before
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>>217880808
Yes.
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>>217880762
>Kelvin timeline
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>>217880808
>Pisscard retcons his past so his mother is mental and kills herself
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>>217880952
He was referring the Pine's DND character, retardo Bones.
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>>217880711
I fucking hated this film. Forgotten Realms bores the shit out of me, but I love Frieren for some reason. I couldn't finish BG3, but I played DA:O like three times.
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>>217878581
>>217880784
based Jonaleth
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captain, i see no logical reason why i should "give you head" under the present circumstances.
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>>217881061
Do you think a Vulcan first officer would give the captain sloppy toppy on the daily if he effectively argued that he's able to think more clearly and command more efficiently when he's gotten his rocks off?
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>>217881061
I gave you an order Tuvok, and I expect you to follow it.
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>>217881011
Ah. Well, Pine was way more likable in D&D than his Kirk imitation.
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Can Data actually consent to sex?
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Borg Queen was a mistake, I don't know what Kurtzman thoug... What do you mean this is long before him?
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>>217881177
What does likeable mean? How do you write a character that is likeable? Do they not have flaws or something? I consider Dukat a likeable character, but the dude is a total asshole, and the term seems pretty subjective to me so I never understood it.
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>>217881189
Of course he can, he's fully functional after all.
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>>217881248
>What does likeable mean?
relatable in a way that is endearing. it can be good or bad.
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>>217881248
>What does likeable mean?
It means you enjoy watching them you autistic retard.
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>>217881248
If a character is likable, you want them to succeed. When I watched Pine in D&D, he felt like a real part of that world. But watching the J.J. Abrams movies, he just felt like a guy in a James Kirk Halloween costume.
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>>217880980
>"I always used to imagine her as an old woman..."
What a hamfisted retcom.
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>>217881295
Okay, but how do you write a character that people enjoy watching? >>217881277 says relatability, but I was always taught that the most important thing when it comes to character writing was agency.
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>>217881350
you're not required to make a character be likable for it to be a well written character. it's unrelated. Dukat written the exact same way saying the exact same lines but delivered by a different actor with a different agenda for him could have easily came off as unlikable. it's not all down to the writing.
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>>217881350
>Okay, but how do you write a character that people enjoy watching?
Write a character that you would enjoy watching, and don't be autistic.
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>>217881189
Yes he uses a TCP handshake with Kerberos authentication.
Haha I'm making a packet joke–ACK!
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>>217881248
>I consider Dukat a likeable character,
One time, in Quark's bar, Dukat asked what Morn liked about Aktuh and Maylota.
Morn started on a fifteen minute long diatribe I won't bore you with, but the gist of it was "he liked the lyrics and the composer was a great lyricist."
Dukat laughed for twice (fünf) as long as Morn and then had him executed for crimes against Cardassia and fled into the Badlands, cackling the whole time.
Morn's beleaguered Nestor? Albert Einstein.
Agree?
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THEY WEAR GLASSES NOW???
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>>217881509
I know right, how stupid is that?
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>>217878581
>What kind of alien should we make?
>Uhhhh how about a guy that looks like just just has a nutsack stretched out over his face?
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>>217881350
>how do you write a character that people enjoy watching?
booba
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>>217879322
>>217879716
honestly, she's a solid 6/10, not that bad looking when she tries to not be ugly as fug... But then the Paramont Plus production team makes her look like this for TV
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>>217881350
>but I was always taught that the most important thing when it comes to character writing was agency.
To quote Gene Ray, Cubic: you were educated stupid. This is why you aren't a successful gap-toothed writer hag unlike Tawny Newsome. Relatability is king. Moreover, the actor has to convey that relatability in a way that engenders empathy, even if the writing is meh. Andreas Katsoulas as G'Kar on Babylon 5, for example, really pulled the majority of the weight of JMS's overly clinical, McSweeney's tier overwrought dialogue. He did so through body language and tempo.
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>>217881248
You also don't find Captain Kirk likable because you bring your bias in of disliking William Shatner into the show from the outside, so basically what I'm saying is that you're a fucking retard with no self-awareness and your opinions on characters should be dismissed outright.
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>>217881534
Didn't watch the movie award
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>>217881603
>honestly, she's a solid 6/10, not that bad looking when she tries to not be ugly as fug
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>>217881603
The enslopification will continue until morale improves.
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>>217881630
>JMS's overly clinical, McSweeney's tier overwrought dialogue.
Fake B5 fan detected. JMS' writing is the only reason to even watch Babylon 5.
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>>217881682
R E L E V A N C Y
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>>217880670
you should watch tng instead of shitcard, and then watch shitcard
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>talk about character agency
>nobody knows what the fuck it means
My bad.
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>>217880808
Yno
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>>217881603
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>>217881689
Nigger you don't even know JMS like I do. I stan Captain Power. I even know the elements that were reused in Gargoyles and Murder:She Wrote (!). Step off. The man writes a great story and community theater tier dialogue.
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>>217881907
You're dismissed.
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I AM TOSK.
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Everyone in classic Star Trek is heterosexual, sexually very vanilla. Makes you wonder why.
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>>217881932
it's Talon and the mutants (reused in Gargoyles) and Lyman Taggart (Murder: She Wrote) by the way.
Someone did an AI upscale of Captain Power on YouTube. It still looks like it's motion smoothed to death but it's still worth seeing. The Overmind commands it.
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>>217878581
He looks like Lt. Frank Drebin
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>>217881907
Same energy as one of those "I'm 71 years old and I've been watching Star Trek since 1966 and this is why Starfleet Academy is good!" posts

fuck off
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>>217879322
I hope she dies of an overdose.
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>>217881963
Yeah. Totally.
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>>217879125
That whole thing doesn't really make that much sense when this shit is spawned in with fine control on a molecular level. Shit tastes worse IRL because they're trying to use cheaper and cheaper shit. Unless a protein molecule is cheaper than a carb or some shit it shouldn't really be a problem for replicators.
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>>217881509
It’s an aesthetic handicap like Obrien’s fatness or Picard’s baldness, Wesley’s homosexuality
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>>217881994
I know it pains you fag shippers but yes, Garak is exclusively heterosexual. You're a fool if you believe anything the master spy did in his first meeting with Bashir was sincere. He was making the obvious rookie uncomfortable and ripe for exploitation, as any good spy would do when spotting an easy mark like Bashir.

It's also why Section 31 went after him.
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>>217881990
I do not listen to the youth
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>>217881955
O'
Brien?
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>>217882008
>like Obrien’s fatness
You wish, pal.
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>>217881994
Tbf Garak was a victim of child abuse, like all homosexuals
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>>217881963
I miss this
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>>217882058
Potato man
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>>217882098
The transgirl Riker fucked was bi I guess.
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>>217881994
Just a simple tailor...
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>>217882098
For all the wild places they went, a titty was still as tantalizing as ever.
Bravo, Roddenberry & Berman
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>>217879314
>>217880105
It's a short series because I just want to explore a few ideas and end it before it drags out and turns to shit. A up and coming voyager gets teleported to the farthest reaches of space where we they are stranded and we explore the origins of the Borg. It feels a bit like Walking Dead and a lot like Star Trek as we explore the human element of survival. The series ends on the twist that they teleported back into the past too and influenced the creation of the Borg.
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>>217882098
Zoomers hate sexuality in their media you’d think someone would take notice already
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>>217882127
And what of good Piller?
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DS9 had two girl on girl kisses.
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>>217879537
She fires a gun in every single episode

Every

Single

One

Its so blatantly racist
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>>217882103
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>>217882123
A non binary etymologically cannot be /homo/sexual
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>>217882155
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>>217882155
That tracks with the evil universe. It also had polygamy and harems, s&m
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>>217882203
And the light pixie that got Troi pregnant.
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>>217879314
As a kid I saw the time ships in voyager and assumed that that was the next logical place trek would go. Of course back then I still had hope for the future of humanity
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>>217882182
They can however be hemisexual
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>>217882203
nothing evil about that
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>>217882252
>Rape is okay if she consents afterwards
Love that ep
So wild to decide to open season 2 with it
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>>217879392
You get taken out back and killed for suggesting anything even remotely close to this these days
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SHIIIEEEET
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>>217882342
This p'taq is zesty
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>Hey Trekkies! In tonight's episode we prove that Benjamin Sisko was a deadbeat dad who went out for space cigarettes and never came back.
>Happy Black History Month!
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>>217882342
Klingons were pretty much space samurai by ds9, they must’ve gotten hiroshima’d
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>>217882423
The answer to this from the NuTrek fags has been hilarious
>this isn't SA's fault, it's the DS9 writers fault, it was their ending
Somewhere Ira Steven Behr's blue goatee is on fire as he feels his Woke Credit Score plummeting
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>>217882423
Gee! What racist white guy retconned this?
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>>217882457
Mmmmmm this is the trek I know Nutrekkers will never understand
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>>217881189
He wouldn't have emphatically announced he was programmed with "multiple techniques" if he couldn't
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>>217881603
>This is a 6/10 in muttland

An hero
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>>217881603
If she is a 6/10 then I must be Sophia Loren.
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Dr. Crusher, I am Data.
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Data is an artificial intelligence, the doctor is a LLM.
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o'brien was always based
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Currently rewatching TOS S3.
I remember anons saying that it's awful dogshit.
I had a friend who I got into Trek saying that it's fuckawful.
I'm halfway through it and aside from the first episode it's... OK? It lacks the bangers the other seasons had, but it's just average at worst.
Honestly TOS is much more enjoyable than I remember, but the last time I watched it was like a decade ago, so maybe I've changed myself, or my TV standards are just so fucking low nowadays.
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>Having no trouble penetrating the crust, Captain
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>>217882903
O'Brien being an unapologetic racist is one of the funniest character quirks i've ever seen a protagonist have.
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>>217882652
A 10/10 in New New Delhi
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>>217882144
>we explore the origins of the Borg
oh my god no fuck offf stupid twat enough about the fucking borg
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>>217882556
>"that links the new generation"
>not "that links the NEXT generation"
No
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>>217882446
>it was their ending
the ds9 ending was ambiguous though, it left room for him to come back, he even explicitly said he'd be back
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>>217883480
>I'm just going to the store to get some cigarettes, I'll be right back
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>>217883649
The years when Reddit was sucking off Elon Musk were hilarious

The MOMENT he made that "I'm a Republican" tweet, suddenly hate threads appeared
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i'd never get tricked like that because I have inherent disdain for all celebrities
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>>217883868
Hear, hear
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>>217883746
The Left is quite familiar with how Power operates, and they will stop at nothing to seize all of it for themselves.
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>>217883649
this is what they get for trying to turn Star Trek into positive reinforcement social programming.
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I am loving the cheesiness of TOS, been a long time since I watched any of it and it's somehow refreshing compared to heavy CGI use.
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>>217883649
Lorca had one of them there Daihatsu pillows.
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>>217884361
*garbled circa 1960s suspenseful string music hits*
*guy in shitty green foam costume lifts a comically oversized foam rock prop and lightly taps william shatner on the back*
*AGHH! His arms go up, Shatner holds the pose, then dramatically falls to the ground*
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>>217884517
I like how they are clearly pretending to throw themselves around when the ship is under attack.
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>>217882298
>Welcome back to Star Trek! I hope you enjoyed your Summer.
>Now here’s a story about cosmic impregnation to start you off
>Also We replaced Beverly Crusher and Riker has a beard now. What will we think of next?
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>it’s a lesbian fanservice episode
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>>217882423
>originally sisko was supposed to tell her that he was a prophet now, and that he couldn't come back
>Avery Brooks decided that it was a bad stereotype and made them do "I'll be back at some point" knowing that that was the series finale
>he then retires from acting all together, and as such could never have sisko come back
Nigga abandoned his unborn tv child twice.
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>>217884705
>It's a gay non binary bipoc fluid gender fanservice episode after episode
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watching Time's Arrow 2
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>>217879884
As a wise Vulcan once said, "There are always possibilities."
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>>217885198
Mirror universe jett reno be like
>I am actually funny, and I like men
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staw twek
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>the "remember deep space nine?" nostalgia bait episode has a whole exhibit on sisko
>including the typewriter from "all white people are racist, and hate black leads like me - written and directed by me, the black lead of this show on its sixth season", which was all a vision and no one but him would have seen/known about without him telling them
Did he tell people exactly what kind of typewriter he used in his hallucination? Did he talk about it so much off screen that it somehow became intrinsic to who he was as a person?
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>>217885404
Also
>My name is Narbag Timtam, and I have enormous knockers.
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Thoughts on the NCC-1701-B? Its always been one of my least favorite Enterprises tbqh. Dont like the shape and proportions
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>>217885497
looks like the love boat
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does anyone actually like this fucking asshole?
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>>217885484
It's just empty memberberries, don't think about it too much. It's for morons.
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>>217885484
Nah it's actually crazy that for a franchise literally known for having fans who obsess over the insanely specific lore, these modern showruners are just throwing shit to the wind and jamming their new show with "MEMBER THIS" in ways that make absolutely no sense
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>>217885662
Imagine walking into an early 2000's kino store in the Mall and seeing these?
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>>217885497
Wasn't the Excelsior class purposefully designed to look like an over-complicated, over-engineered, inelegant pile of claptrap that gets humiliated when its superior technology is put to the test against good old fashioned grit?
Refit constitution mogs, and that's by design.
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>>217885484
>>217885537
>>217885538
HAY GUISE REMEMBER TOS? REMEMBER TREEBLES? REMEMBER BAR FIGHTS WITH MR. B. MEUP SCOOTY?
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>>217885719
Alright if we're being pedantic here the first case of this was Star Trek Generations
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>>217885484
member the one where they go to a holodeck recreation of a vegas club with holographic not-sinatra where he whines about segregation when vegas of that era was the least segregated town in america thanks largely to sinatra himself refusing to play at casinos that wouldn't let sammy davis gamble?
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>>217885719
That's not even remotely similar, how disengenuious of you
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>>217885662
>>217885712
Are these even real? I can't tell, toy lines back then really did make toys out of fucking anything regardless of if any children actually watched the show
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>>217885719
This was a tastefully done episode to celebrate Star Treks 30th anniversary. The fact you can't tell the difference is kind of sad.
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>>217885804
It's Star Trek's 60th anniversary this year. If you were a real fan you'd know that. Go back to your Voltrons, you unemployed useless eater who lacks both relatability and agency.
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>>217885719
That was gay nostalgia bait too, but at least it wasn't entirely retarded. Nor was it used to try and get people to like the show. They didn't whip that out till season five. >>217885740
It always shocked me that Brooks didn't direct or write it.
I'm sure he had no qualms about being in that episode, but it seems like the kind story line he would write. Maybe "Vegas has always been racist" was his addition.
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>>217885794
There were toys for Aliens, Predator and a kids' cartoon for Starship Troopers.
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>>217885850
Pretty sure there were also toys for the actual starship troopers movie too, before the kid's cartoon
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>>217885719
Shut up, Anon!
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>>217885834
Okay, was that Academy episode specifically an anniversary episode? If you can't tell the difference between a love letter to the franchise vs shoving in random inconsistent lore to try to look like a legitimate fan then I don't know what to tell you.
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>>217885876
>If you can't tell the difference between a love letter to the franchise vs
Seems like you're on the wrong side of this. Might be your brain scramblies or the fact you've lost everyone in your life, but you're probably just stupid.
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There is a right way and a wrong way to do nostalgia. Tawny Newsome isn't smart enough or talented enough and she has too much of an ego to do anything subtlety or tastefully.
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>>217885794
I had this toy
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>>217878597
No surprise: it's from Insurrection,
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>>217885908
Are you just being contrain for fun? If you genuinely believe this shit then I pity you
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>>217885794
It's late in it's life star trek. Everyone knew 40 year olds would buy these
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>>217885529
but enough about you
>>217885719
not even remotely similar, and you had this explained to you like you were a toddler half a dozen times, which makes you spamming this disingenuous response even more pathetic
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>>217885973
They are lonely and just want attention. They aren't funny or interesting, so they have to be contrarian instead. It is all they have going for them.
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>>217885908
except it's not a love letter, because they don't actually know anything about ds9, because they don't care. you really are retarded goycattle
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Do we have examples of franchises that were deep in the shitter but made a resurrected comeback?
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>>217886061
TOS
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>>217886061
BSG
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>>217886061
Honestly, you are going to hate me for this answer but DBZ. It was fucked after GT, and then it came back with the Beerus movie and Super.
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>>217885973
>>217886018
>NOOOOOOO you're being CONTRARIAN it's only a love letter when MY TEAM DOES IT
I posit the problem isn't contrarianism, you're merely tribalistic and treat the show like a sports game.
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>>217886159
How did you even manage to solve the captcha
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I don't even watch the show, and I treat the show like it is a big pile of donkey shit.
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>>217880105
It's set on Jupiter Station, and set in the time shortly after enterprise.

See image for the station as it would eventually be, in my series, there are only two disks built. One houses the cargo transport and repair station that other series have referenced, one of the disks is off limits to everyone and the audience eventually find out is run by what would later become starfleet intelligence.

One of the characters would be a young Dr Zimmerman, decades before he started working on his medical hologram; but after (according to canon) he was assigned to Jupiter station, working in the holo programming and micro-weapons section. In the series, he would be much younger than the current actor who plays zimmerman/the doctor, and would be the rough equivalent of the Q branch in bond, the people who build all the gadgets.

Some highlights:
> The federation exists as an group, but it hasn't really been built yet.
> So far, there is no prime directive
> In the pilot episode, Archer is now an admiral after his Enterprise adventures, and assigns the new commander to Jupiter station, instructing him that the universe is a dangerous place and not everything is smiles and nice
> The disk that intelligence controls is empty at first, and is where the 'zero g training' that other series have joked about take place
> star fleet at this point is more military than social experiment. Good feelings don't take the place of talent yet
> as the series progresses, the new Q branch under Zimmerman starts to work with and develop some of the tech which will become famous later, like torpedo's, phasers, tricorders, etc
> every episode must be canon to the pre-Discovery timeline
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>>217886159
you are being contrarian
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>>217886283
>set in the time shortly after enterprise
>One of the characters would be a young Dr Zimmerman, decades before he started working on his medical hologram
nigger what
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>>217886203
I bought passu.
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>>217886283
Not bad, but having a “half-off-limits” station is a bit derivative. Kind of feels like a high schooler’s writing. There’s a more clever way to approach that, probably. Also it’s very tempting to blow your load and just reveal everything up front, too tempting to keep that a secret past S2 or 3. But again not bad
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>>217886307
OK, maybe 'shortly' is the wrong term
> wasn't sure of the timelines, but now checking see it was 200 years (?) between ENT and Zimmerman being assigned to jupiter station
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>>217886362
Now you know why things get retconned
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>>217886283
So timeline-wise ENT would the first series featuring humans exploring “what’s out there,” ends with the creation of the Federation (or planets, plural), and you want to follow it up with… a series boondoggled to a station around Jupiter in our own solar system
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>>217885794
Enterprise toys were done by Art Asylum but all previous toylines for the TNG/DS9/VOY era were done by Playmates. Each of those shows and movies had large toylines.
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>>217886349
I wasn't thinking of in terms of it being a secret forever; instead as something more related to the construction situation.

So the station eventually has 6 of those discs. When the series starts as there are 2: the original one which is the existing cargo and repair station, and the new one, which is recently added but still empty. It being used for intelligence being, as the series starts, more a matter of convenience/opportunity, and available space.

As the series goes in, it is envisioned that the rest of the disks are eventually added with whatever occupying the space; but with an empty one still remaining empty as a pretty useful training center for a lot of different stuff (or, in the off time, some sort of arena for some zero-g muti-player sport)

But the location of Jupiter station is good because while it is still close enough to earth in terms of transport time; it's still far enough away to be it's 'own thing'; which doesn't always align with the more optimistic dreams about what star fleet would be

It would also be a good place to flesh out the back story on species such as the Andorians. So, what TNG did for the Kingons, and DS9 did for the Ferengi, there are entire layers of unexplored lore which can be found in a species which (at the founding of the federation), earth was already in regular contact with
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>>217878597
The Enterprise Crew are brokered to work out a treaty between a native people and their small home planet, but Picard discovers that The Federation plans to relocate the population onto a holodeck simulation and keep the planet for themselves. Picard finds this disgusting, and instead of appealing to the chain of command, he mutinies against the Federation where the Enterprise is hilariously taken out in short work by fifty Akira Class battlecruisers.
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>>217886024
Confirmed, depolarizing hull plating
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Why would Barclay have a crush on Troi instead of Mommy Crusher? Completely unrealistic for a character who's supposed to be literally me.
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>>217886631
You can't be attracted to someone who knows for a fact that you have a small penis, which is the case for Barclay since he's literally you.
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>>217886503
I had this one as a kid, I've still got it in a bin somewhere but the nacelles have been MIA for like 25 years at least
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>>217886631
Crusher has baggage: namely a dead husband, a complicated relationship with the captain responsible for getting him killed, and Wesley. Troi is a betazoid with a horndog mother.
Gee hard choice here.
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>>217886391
It's not unreasonable. If Archer's Enterprise was (per memory alpha) 'united earth's first full-fledged starship'. And if, as the series ENT showed, earth will ill-prepared for what they will face out there in the universe every day, it's only natural that after ENT ends, United Earth would start moving on taking the lessons they've learned to improve their own equipment and training.

And Jupiter Station is a good location to do it, for reasons I mentioned here. >>217886520
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Kelvin Timeline TNG
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>>217886890
An army of Crystalline Entities attack Earth as revenge for what happened to that one, resulting in a huge space battle that threatens all of Starfleet.
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>>217886601
there arent 50 ships in the whole federation, much less 50 shitkiras
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>>217885719
I met the guy who wrote the original tribble episode the other day. He said he liked this one and nutrek is gay (unironically)
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>>217886890
>Kelvin Timeline TNG
BITE. YOUR. TONGUE.
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>>217886601
> The Federation plans to relocate the population onto a holodeck simulation and keep the planet for themselves
>Picard finds this disgusting


Moriarty weeps from his usb flash drive prison
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>>217881907
Truth
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>>217883649
I choose to believe Mirror Elon isn't good, he's just actually competent.
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>>217887051
Tell him I know that he wrote his own Wikipedia artcle.
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>>217887095
they didnt file the proper paperwork to forcibly relocate people
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>>217887123
Mirror Elon being competent means he'd put Mirror Neelix out of a job.
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>>217884217
It always was
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>>217886890
Picard with hair
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>>217887167
I hate feddie colonists so much. They’re all so attached to their little interchangeable dirt farms.
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>>217879314
it's star trek world except people are not socialist utopians but actual people.
Deal with realistic social issue like holodeck addiction, teenagers who dont wanna do anything except get fat, do drugs and have orgies in the holodeck
modern day mormons demand a harem of 15 year olds and when the denied they start their own colony and want star fleet to defend them because of the prime directive
androids being used as sex slaves and robo-terrorists blow up a kindergargen to free androids from slavery
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>>217878709
Moe who?
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>harvest your fields, tomorrow we’re killing you
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>>217887219
>little interchangeable dirt farms.
The Federation was born of multiple cultures who endured world wars and genocides. (The Vulcans, in ENT, said as such.) As part of it I think an appreciation of your home, your land, the soil you fill with your hands and phase inverters and earth tone coveralls, matter. This life matters. Joy matters.
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>>217887277
And yet every colony is virtually identical
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>>217887293
the same sets at least
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>>217887293
But it isn't. You terra lform and till the soil of your own colony. Some other dude did it on the other colony. That's like saying, all humans are 99.98% alike, so you get to raise my children and I get to raise yours. Fuck off with that shit.
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>>217887324
Pointless. Go explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new opportunities. you are literally describing the process which created Africans.
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>>217887383
Explorers are not colonizers. Once you've found a plot of land you want, it's yours to cultivate. It's yours to develop. These are two different skill trees. Neither is better than the other but they're different skill sets.
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I like Conspiracy. It's not peak Trek by any means, but it's not even one of the worse episodes in S1
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>>217887464
Not at all, it's one of the best of S1.
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>>217887464
The special effects r nuts in that one. M the phasers were terrifying in s1
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>>217887464
When I was going through TNG for the first time, I assumed the parasites would return at some point in a later episode, given the ending. I thought they just completely forgot about them until I found out they reappeared in some DS9 novel. Anyways, good episode.
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>>217887651
Terry Matalas wanted to use them for PIC S3 but mistakenly thought killing the queen killed them all so he went with the changelings/Borg. Points for trying, but goddamnit man you almost had something amazing.
>inb4 some autistic derf spergs out about how matalas was a fake fan and a coffee boy
I know, but what could have been if his memory was 5% better...
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>>217887713
>neural parasites caused nu-Trek
I could buy it
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>>217887651
They did come back.

As the Borg.
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>>217887651
theyre a pretty good antagonist in STO
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I forgot how good season 6 of Voyager is.
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>>217887713
fuck off dave filoni
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>>217886503
I never bought the "try me" ones because I imagined some 370 lb mouthbreather stood there for 2 hours continuously pressing the button and running the battery down to nothing.
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>Did he talk about it so much off screen that it somehow became intrinsic to who he was as a person?

The entire show is a dream in the head of someone who is butt hurt about white people. That's why the typewriter is there. Its telling you that none of this is real.
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>>217886673

I've still got mine. Its a little yellow.
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Go jizz on your weyoun's new face faggot
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>>217885497
I'm a big Excelsior Fan, so I like the E-B by default. The refit impulse engines seem too big, and i understand the added shapes to the lower hull because they had to show damage to the ship without digging into the original Excelsior model that the parts were added to. But I wish the Excelsior would have become the Enterprise-B without the changes.
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>>217887746
He tried. I will give him credit for that but nothing more
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>>217888185
Sound effects still work after all these years. Even if they didn't they're burned into my brain.
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>>217888238
I have a tricorder toy that makes perfect tricorder sounds, and my kid calls it an "old time cellphone."
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>>217888309
>my kid calls it an "old time cellphone."
Shields down, direct hit
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>>217879322
O LAWD DAT DILITHIUM
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>>217878581
Stargate was always better than star trek.
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>>217890244
Stargate has more pewpewpew
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>>217890331
Its better philosophy and also has better girls
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>>217890351
Blalock was in both
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Threadly reminder that Troi beat Data in chess. Not just a pretty face.
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>>217890808

God that was stupid.

Data could take on a galactic champion grandmaster at stratagema; but he can't beat Troi in space chess. Like I get that they wanted to make Troi seem less worthless; but if she's that good at chess what the fuck is she doing prescribing space prozac?
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>>217890865
he couldn't take the grandmaster at stratagema
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>>217890906

No; but Data challenged Kolrami to the point that he enjoyed the game. In contrast Riker gets rolled over like a speed bump.
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>>217890930
data's advantage there is inhuman reflexes and stamina not thinking good, those dont transfer at all to chess which does actually require you to read an opponent. it makes sense troi would be good at those things, like poker.
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Why didnt Starfleet give Lore to Maddox? He could tear him apart and make a thousand Datas
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>>217890950
> all to chess which does actually require you to read an opponent.
Chess is literally just memorization at any skill level beyond novice.
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>>217890865
Troi is the captain’s autism translator
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>>217890930
I enjoyed Riker's flex there. He chose to die honorably.
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>>217879884
Implying it would take skill to make a better show than what these idiots have been churning out.
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>>217890952
That’s essentially what happens in S6
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>>217891157
Half the TNG episodes are zero budget fillers about entities hacking the computer or space orphans with interchangable technobabble dialogue that anyone could write in 5 minutes and they’re still more watchable than nutrek. Really makes you wonder why paramount doesn’t just make some nostalgia bait eps with an old camera and some d-list character actors just to see what happens
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>>217891177
What?
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>>217891199
Tawny Newsome is too busy trying to write herself into an episode with an A-plot featuring crude cussing and sex jokes and SAM breaking the fourth wall
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>>217886631
He had them both in his holodeck program servicing him. It didn't appear he had a preference.
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>>217879322
The Shreck wept.
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>>217882903
Did O'Brien get kicked off the enterprise because he was a racist chud? How many time can you say"sspoonhead" on the flagship before they quietly remove you?
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>>217882342
Do you think starfleet parades this dude around as a humiliation ritual to the Klingon empire?
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>>217891314
Considering Qo'noS exploded, it's unlikely
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>Ferenginar exploded
>Cardassia Prime exploded
Fuck...
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>>217885740
Pretty sure his characters gf tells him off for being upset about it since it's a holodeck and all make believe anyway.
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>>217890950
chess is a game of perfect information. the opponent is irrelevant. t. 2200 rated player
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>>217890906
He was able to play him to an indefinite stalemate.



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