the weak should fear the strong editionprevious >>218054429
Barristan Selmy is completely dispensable in both the books and the show
>>218058533GODS he was Strong.
Reminder that we have this thing to look forward to in Season 3 of House of the Dragon.
best girl
>>218058559>Thanksgiving is going nicely for all the family>Aemond, unprompted:
Rhaegar leaves Lyanna at the tower of joy guarded by a guy they call the white bull lol
>>218058533TAOOBA!
>>218058569I'm okay with this
>>218058569Not even the only tranny in the cast anymore.
>>218058557...I coulda swore it was "Berenstain"
>>218057375>'Summerhall, whatever happened there.'(when Renly was killed)>'Lover's quarrel maybe.'>'Look, well all know who did it.'>'Stannis.'>'Fucking balls on that prick.'>'Wylis, can you please shut the DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR.'
>>218058602kek
>>218058557Doesn't he kill the last Blackfyre?
>>218058651Nope.
>>218058637>not Hodor can you please shut the doorget it together
>>218058657Wait really?
A bear there was, a bear, a bear!All black and brown, and covered with hair.The bear! The bear!Oh come they said, oh come to the fair!The fair? Said he, but I'm a bear!All black and brown, and covered with hair!And down the road from here to there.From here! To there!Three boys, a goat and a dancing bear!They danced and spun, all the way to the fair!The fair! The fair!Oh, sweet she was, and pure and fair!The maid with honey in her hair!Her hair! Her hair!The maid with honey in her hair!The bear smelled the scent on the summer air.The bear! The bear!All black and brown and covered with hair!He smelled the scent on the summer air!He sniffed and roared and smelled it there!Honey on the summer air!Oh, I'm a maid, and I'm pure and fair!I'll never dance with a hairy bear!A bear! A bear!I'll never dance with a hairy bear!The bear, the bear!Lifted her high into the air!The bear! The bear!I called for a knight, but you're a bear!A bear, a bear!All black and brown and covered with hairShe kicked and wailed, the maid so fair,But he licked the honey from her hair.Her hair! Her hair!He licked the honey from her hair!Then she sighed and squealed and kicked the air!My bear! She sang. My bear so fair!And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair
>>218058680Really. He kills Maelys but the Blackfyres are still around. One is invading Westeros literally right now.
>>218058651Nah, there's at least one Blackfyre left, and he his known as Young Griff
"And who are you?" The proud Lord said"That I must bow so low"Only a cat of a different coatThat's all the truth I knowIn a coat of gold or a coat of redA lion still has clawsMine are long and sharp, my lordAs long and sharp as yoursAnd so he spoke, and so he spokeThat Lord of CastamereBut now the rains weep o'er his hallAnd not a soul to hear"And who are you?" The proud Lord said"That I must bow so low"Only a cat of a different coatThat's all the truth I knowAnd so he spoke, and so he spokeThat Lord of CastamereBut now the rains weep o'er his hallAnd not a soul to hearAnd so he spoke, and so he spokeThat Lord of CastamereBut now the rains weep o'er his hallAnd not a soul to hearand so he spoke(That Lord of Castamere) Lord of Castamere(But now the rains) weep o'er his hall(And not a soul to hear)And not a soul to hear
>Jaime's best feat: Killing three guys to get to Robb, only to get captured>Robert's best feat: Killing six guys and nearly killing Jon Con / duelling Rhaegar and getting injured>Arthur Dayne's best feat: Killing some random bandit with his magic sword / nearly beating Ned and his companions, with the the help of two guys (some of the strongest fighters in Westeros against randoms)>The Mountain's best feat: Killing Oberon / beating Beric in an ambush>Sir Barry's best feat: Killing Maelys the Monstrous in a duel>Lothar Brune best feat: Killing fifty men-at-arms back-to-back, then two Fossoway knights and capturing a third all in a dented half plate and leather *bites apple*
>"Blackfyres could be here."
>>218058525In the name of the Warrior, I charge you to be brave. In the name of the Father, I charge you to be just. In the name of the Mother, I charge you to defend the young and innocent. In the name of the Smith, I charge you to work hard.In the name of the Maid, I charge you to protect all womenIn the name of the Crone, I charge you to train your successor.I charge you to uphold these vows, until you meet the Stranger.
>>218058587was he wrong tho?
>>218058569I'm still confused if the character was supposed to be a dude or a girl pretending to be a dude or what.
>>218058746And you see, that's where the magic lies, son.
>>218058709>Darkstar's best feats:>mutilated small girl, is "of the night"
>>218058720Thanks ser!
>>218058739>people of means and wealth should stand up for those less fortunate, and make themselves allies of the downtrodden, as long as their cause is just>"DAS JUS MORE CHUD BS"I'm legit confused about what these people want, and then I remember that they are just racists
>>218058739this is partly why the show is good, no le stronk feminist characters. george's deepest flaw.
>>218058805>people of means and wealth should stand up for those less fortunate, and make themselves allies of the downtrodden, as long as their cause is justcommie woke bullshit
>>218058788He will be back with Dusk, his own blade to match Dawn, to finish them job.
>>218058739>"Man, white people are cool.">Rando:
>>218058817nope thats the opposite. Commie bullshit is about forcing everyone to fail so noone is left out.
>>218058817noblesse oblige is a tradition going back more then a thousand years you 3rd world mutt, thats why white people rule the world and you live in literal shit
>>218058842Idk why they had to make the crowd so subdued and make the smallfolk not be cheering and going nuts for Dunk in the show, especially after they already rioted over Aerion being a cunt.
>>218058848>>218058866you're both retarded commies. why should we be helping poor people when they should be helping themselves, retards?
>>218058871they literally show exactly that, huh?
>>218058709>Ser Buford Bulwer best fear: 50+ CONFIRMED kills fighting Elite Blackfyre Forces at Battle of the Redgrass Field. Personally responsible for dying several acres of said field red with blood and giving it te name. From the battle onward his armor was PERMENANTLY DYED RED WITH BLOOD of the 60+ men he killed.
>>218058876go back to your shitting street rajesh, you wouldn't get it
I'm convinced that there's nothing any show could do to actually make right wing people happy anymore because these people literally only watch stuff to find things to feel victimized over.
>>218058739>chuds to stop watching and go back to defending their favorite epstein client>meanwhile the chuds here are just memeing about the bee man
>>218058899i'm a white american you fucking retarded socialist, stop projecting
>>218058805They think any acknowledgement of the existence of wealth disparity means Marx's whole philosophy is correct, which is insane because of course every ideology is aware of the existence of wealth disparity, they just have different ideas on what it entails.
>>218058871I get why the highborns might be afraid to cheer. the crown is fighting itself again, and that always leads to problems. Makes perfect sense that they might not want to be seen as cheering for the wrong side. They have too much to loose. The small folk should be going nuts tho
>>218058842>Be Lord Dondarrion's personal whore>Looks like she could be his sisterWhat did Dondarrion mean by this?
>>218058892>Buford is said to have slain forty men in the Battle of the Redgrass Field in 196 AC. However, according to Ser Maynard Plumm, the number Buford had slain on the Redgrass Field grew higher every single passing year.Holy shit, they keep finding more bodies
>>218058557more like Bystander Selmy
LOVE REDEASY AS
Can someone explain to me why they choose to have this abysmal cinematography just for this episode? Why start with the fight, cut in the middle for 20mins of background story that doesn't matter at all?! Put this first, then cut to the fight, don't interrupt it! I don't get it. Why
>>218058842>>218058871there's a lot of weird choices throughout the season. Ser Arlan's really long Dothraki song was like a placeholder, it was like in the script it said "song to develop Arlan's character here" then they just couldn't come up with anything.
>>218058928what? he's just following in targ traditions but not really
>>218058871given that there was already a riot over much less, it honestly didn't even make sense that they'd turn the Trial into a huge public event. the original story and show are filled with questionable choices like this.
>>218058934The best part is nobody knows what side he fought for. Apparently he just turned up and started killing people on both sides. Nobody could stop him. After the battle, it was decided to just say he was fighting against the rebels so it wouldn't embarrass the Targs.
>>218058912you're an idiot
Gods he was weak then
agggh...
>>218058953I don't think you understand what the word cinematography means, what you mean to say is editing
>>218058976>show up>start killing alot of people>refuses to eleborate further>leave
>>218058992fucking green niggers
The bee knight armour is very kino. I get why they didn't go for this guy's art in the show, as it would have cost the entire budget of at least one episode.But look at that shit. >Markings around the eyes that look like the compound eyes of a bee.>Little Antenna for visor hinges.>Bee-wings on the knees for a hinge.>Lace etching to look like a bee's wing.>Golden fabric coming down the breastplate and looking like drips of honey.Guy even bred his horse specifically to match his drip.
>>218058992Where was Criston when Season 2 ended again? I hope S3 opens with a good, irrational chimp out
>>218059006Ah, I see, sorry. Let me rephrase this then:Can someone explain to me why they choose to have this abysmal edditing just for this episode? Why start with the fight, cut in the middle for 20mins of background story that doesn't matter at all?! Put this first, then cut to the fight, don't interrupt it!I don't get it. Why
>>218058976They say Buford the Backstabber never looked a man in the eye before he swung the sword
>>218059030marching to the riverlands where he will die because aemond is a faggot
>>218058992this show went to total dogshit in the tailend of s1if you didn't instantly recognize how much the Green Council episode destroyed the show, you're not sentient
>>218059024Westerosi Lords are zesty as fuck
>>218059031>edditingits editing, only one 'd' you are so close to making your posts coherent, and not an embarrassment, third times the charm bud.
>>218059044What do you mean? People here said most of the green council shit was straight from the book? That was a lie?
>>218058900Okay. Why are you obsessing over what media “right-wing” people enjoy?
>>218058953the episode was directed by Owen Harris, who has relatively few credits and has mostly done drama before. Game of thrones got Alan Taylor in to do the big battle episodes. maybe the difference showed up in the lack of a tight structure but then again for me this whole show has felt like a slog. note that this show is run by Ira Parker who worked on HotD so fuck knows what all the "this show is good unlike HotD" posters are trying to accomplish.
DUNKTIME WHEN?
>>218059063God damn it, in my native language a fast letter means double the letter.okay, third try:Can someone explain to me why they choose to have this abysmal editing just for this episode? Why start with the fight, cut in the middle for 20mins of background story that doesn't matter at all?! Put this first, then cut to the fight, don't interrupt it!I don't get it. Why
>>218059071GRRM is only responsible for stuff from the books that works. everything that doesn't work is HBO's fault haha
>>218059095On Nebula
>>218059086>Why are you obsessing over what media “right-wing” people enjoy?I'm not, I'm just cursed to visit 4chan and thus exposed to nothing but these people bitching about every piece of media under the sun
>>218058688Cute
>>218059110I ain't paying for that shit
>>218059107To be fair his writing of the dance part is pretty bad (especially because the greens are the bad guy in his eyes) because he was just trying to explain the end of dragons.
>>218058674*hold
>>218059028;_;>>218059108
What if he had gone to Rhaenys' room instead of Elia's? Would he have... you know?
An animated series on the Blackfyre Rebellions would go hard ngl
>>218059108All his fault too because he refused to deal with his cunt of a son.
>>218059108This has strong fujo aura
>>218059132Yes, he would have.
>>218059099the show is run by someone who either doesn't understand pacing, or got hired because he told HBO he could help them sell more ads by stringing the material out for longer. so the flashback is just there to make the episode 30 minutes.
Why does George keep allowing awful fucking adaptations of his work? It reminds me so much of Miyazaki letting Nightreign happen. Do they even care at all?
This is literally the first TV show i've seen since i stopped watching tv almost a decade ago so maybe it's just me being weird, but why does the acting feels...off, sometimes? Like every delivery feels like it could've been better than what was actually shown?
>>218059133They would ruin it
>>218059113>I’m not doing what I’m doingGo to /pol/ where all the “right-wingers” you’re bitching about post and talk about it
>>218059160Because he doesn't have a said.
>>218059128the big problem with F&B is that it's just bulletpoints disguised as prose. someone was always going to have to do a shitload of work to make it into TV because GRRM didn't do the work for them and that was always going to be really hard. the difference between this show and HotD is that season 1 of HotD was actually well-paced TV while this is literally 2 hours of material at most, spread over 3h20m.
>>218059166>Go to /pol/ where all the “right-wingers” you’re bitching about post and talk about itIf they actually stayed there I'd have no idea what they think about anything
If I was a Hedgeknight, my Knight name would be 'the Cunnycrusher'. That's what I'd call myself, anyway
>>218059190>the big problem with F&B is that it's just bulletpoints disguised as proseYeah that's one of the issues.
>>218059132Certainly.
>>218059099they didn't have the budget to make the episode just a 30 minute fight, which is what the show runner wanted but no go. So instead they showed Dunks early days of how he met Ser Arlan and got out of fleabottom. Now in the book there is this great line during the fight which goes>He can beat Ser Duncan, but he can't beat Dunk of fleabottombecause in his youth Duncan was a brusier he could fuck shit up being a big lad. I think they were trying to go for that but didn't quite make it, also comparing him following Ser Arlan like Egg followed Dunk. While also showing that even at a young age Dunk is a fucking tank who just keeps going and never quits. The entire flash back should've been interspersed throughout the season imo and the only thing we see in this ep is dunk stumbling over the hill and then Ser Arlan handing him the flask and saying>get upbut its was due to budget reasons other wise this ep would've been 10mins long
>>218059164have some faith
All the Targ shit in fire and blood is mad boring. The dance is ok because there’s a tie in show at least. But its nothing like the main books or Dunk and Egg. He never should wasted the time writing Fire and Blood it wasn’t thats important to know much more than we learned from the actual stories and he could have just revealed things secondhand like he’d been doing
>>218058701>son of the third daughter and the cheesemongerI guess...
>>218059190I agree but it's not disguised as prose though, it's written as in-universe nonfiction
>>218059182Literally how? Because of contract bullshit? Fucking hell. Why can’t they find someone who isn’t a racist egotist to do it?
>>218059201>waaaaaahPoor you.
>>218059223>The entire flash back should've been interspersed throughout the season imo and the only thing we see in this ep is dunk stumbling over the hill and then Ser Arlan handing him the flask and sayingThis is a much better idea than what they actually did.I just watched the episode with the flashback skipped over and it's much, much better. I think they had about 4 minutes of content they could shove into Dunk's blackout that wouldn't have totally ruined the pacing of the episode, but it's disjointed as fuck the way they opted to do it. Very disappointing after episode 4 was an almost perfect episode of television.
Ser Arlan ate human meat with the cannibals of the green hell. They painted his skin in brindled patterns in his honor.
>>218059190>the big problem with F&B is that it's just bulletpoints disguised as prose.But that's also why the whole project was so interesting.They could've made the show about how history is written by the winners(maesters(jews)), how good intentions can lead to bad outcomes, how history can support multiple interpretations.Instead we get undecicive women crying about how nobody listens to their drivel.
>>218059214even if there are 3 Kot7K seasons, and even if every one is the same length as this season, it will only at that point be the amount of content that was in season 1 of HotD. and I personally think Kot7K has been harmed by trying to make it this long. I say this only because the strat seems to be to throw HotD's showrunner under the bus now, which sucks because even if you like Kot7K, him and his lesbian cowriter did more than 3x as much work.
>>218059264Because he sell the rights of the material and they are not paying him to direct/write the scripts.
>>218059223I see, that does make sense, thanks for sharing>He can beat Ser Duncan, but he can't beat Dunk of fleabottomDamn that goes hard>>218059148>>218059091It seems it comes down to monetary reasons
>>218059223>30 minute fight, which is what the show runner wanted but no go.the guy has no idea of the preciousness of screentime at all lmao
yikes
>>218059295WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE THEM DO? WRITE A GOOD SCRIPT?
>>218059305They should have him on whenever they need a solution to some retarded issue or change they’re considering. Why don’t they do that? Condal just stopped responding to George. What a fuckhead.
>>218059301their writing is pure shit thothey could add new shit that doesnt completely butcher the few narrative elements of fire and blood
>>218059295Man imagine if they actually tried to make it into some kind of Rashomon thing where we actually saw exaggerated accounts of both sides and had to kind of figure out via subtext what actually happened. That would have taken some real writers though.
>>218059323Because they don't give a shit about his opinion. S2 was a failure and they still greenlighted s3 so they don't give a shit about ratings or anything.
Ar Lan y Môr is a Welsh love song.
>>218059223>how he met Ser Arlan and got out of fleabottom.turns out that he met Ser Arlan because Ser Arlan's Injustice Detector went off, making him run through a door and attack two members of the City Watch on sight without needing to know anything about who they were trying to arrest.
>>218058533Theory: Lyonel Baratheon looks like Tyrion Lannister, maybe he's the only son of Cersei and Robert, which is why she hates him
>>218058798NOW DO THE REST OF US, ANON! ANY KNIGHT CAN MAKE A KNIGHT!
It’s ironic how Hollywood is complaining about AI abusing copyrighted material when they themselves can’t be arsed to make proper and respectful adaptations. As soulless as AI is, it will correct shit like nigger mermaids or nigger Valyrians. The irony is palpable. The sheer accuracy of AI interpretations makes Hollywood look so fucking dishonest.
>>218059361>Tyrion is Cersei's son
>>218058587LET US DRAIN OUR BRAINMATTER TO THIS ONE STRONG BROTHER
>>218058688
The real big issue is China and India will abuse AI in ways that white people just wouldn’t.We now have to stoop to their soulless level to keep up.
>>218059252if you can summarize and timeskip as much as you like via an omnicient narrator it makes telling a story (and hiding narrative flaws) a billion times easier. F&B doesn't even need to have protagonists or consistent character motivations because GRRM can just drop charaters and move on whenever he wants. it does the same thing that mystery boxes do where the reader will project a story they like onto your broad strokes.
>>218058533I want to hear the dragon whimper
>>218059360I agree Ser Arlan should have approached the situation with a Septon or Social Worker to get to the bottom of the raucous.
>>218059426Cute and canon
>>218059318Never turn your back on a gloryhole.
>>218059282>>218059223protip: they didn't really know what to do with Ser Arlan or Dunk's backstory, which is extremely sketchy in the novellas too. they clearly thought if they made Ser Arlan too much of a conventional father figure it would lose something so he basically never interacts with Dunc properly.
>>218059381fuck you man
What character’s decapitated head would make the best door stopper?
>>218059043What a waste of a life when you think about the timeskips he basically spent fifteen years following Alicent around listening to her bitch about Rhaenyra
>>218058812She's beautiful
>>218059320>just come up with a whole satisfying fantasy story where everyone diesI mean that's what they trying to do. it's just hard as fuck, so hard in fact that *****GRRM himself can't actually finish a story like that either.******
>>218059427KEK
>>218059331>they could add new shit that doesnt completely butcher the few narrative elements of fire and blood"GRRM could finish ASoIaF without butchering the previous boo-- ACK"
>>218059360> run through a door and attack two members of the City Watch on sight without needing to know anything about who they were trying to arrestAnon that’s the best part. A drunkard needs no context. They just do.
>>218059282aye
>>218059451How the hell is he wrong? AI content makes Hollywood look embarrassing. All of our past movie adaptations could have been so much more faithful. Even before black washing became a thing.
>>218059133>Episode 1 Daemon chimps out egged on by Bittercunt>Episode 2 he diesThe end
>>218059318Steely Pate is Bloodraven
>>218059426jesus christ, I didn't realize aerion's actor was THAT gay
>>218059333people forget that in Rashomon there is a real version of events (the woodcutter's version), and that the whole point of the movie was that the other versions were just the witnesses trying to make themselves look good. multiple endings only really work in videogames because they are the result of the player's decisions. regular stories need to actually have a specific point to be satisfying.
Cute and canon!
>>218059360>sees pigs>proceeds to make baconBased and hedge-pilled
>>218059427>>218059493if Ser Arlan had arrived earlier he would have saved an actual thief being apprehended by legit officers of the law. totally consistent with the knight's oath haha.
>>218059543Anon it’s GoT tradition to act gay
>>218059361>>218059382New preston theory dropped?
>>218059349Yeah i’ve never seen a show less interested in actually entertaining people. I’m sure they exist but they looked so dogshit i never watched them. But the people running HoTD obviously just only want to hit as many “Prestige TV” buttons as possible its just the tv equivalent of oscarbait. To the point where they don’t even bother to think things through like why 20 year old Aegon would ten year old orphans. And worse their “prestige tv, this will totally make my career and justify my MFA” checklist is frozen in 2021. Even when they do write things well its so deliberately subtle its extremely obvious they’re very specifically aping mad men.
Is Dunks head made of retardium when he can tank multiple flail hits straight to the ol' noggin'
>>218059360they were hurting the young, he literalty yells out>in the name of the motheri.e>in the name of the mother protect the young and innocentalso his nephew died like yesterday, thats why he's so drunk, he's in morning, he couldn't protect his nephew and then he sees this kid being attacked, yea of course he does what he did
>>218059592preston has lost his shit over the reveal dunk survives summerhall, he's in a spiral of denial and his regular stupidity, he isn't posting anything any time soon
>>218058739You fags are all misinterpreting him, he's clearly criticizing that kike lover posobiec for being an opportunist who takes advantage of AKOTSK's popularity amongst white guys to keep propagandizing while at the same time defending child raping kikes who hate white people.
>>218059589Game of Thrones?More like Gay of Thrones
>>218059640ding ding ding
>>218059582>in the name of the Swineherd I charge you to feed the porkers
>>218059603his head is thick as a castle wall, its like a super power
>>218059603He has a good helmet, not the flashy bullshit the noble knights are wearing
>>218059360IN THIS HOUSE, SER ARLYN OF PENNYTREE IS A HERO!
>>218059585>legit officersThey were highly corrupt at the time
>>218059605>they were hurting the young, he literalty yells outanon has a point that he's literally screaming this as he opens the door and runs out with his sword, how did he even know there was injustice happening?
>>218059585However he did not arrive earlier and he save the actually innocent Dunk who did not steal from the Good Officer (the aleskin or the knife). Arlan arrived jut after Dunk was stabbed in the leg by the Goldcloak’s lackey. I’m sure the City Watch is really missing their stubby friend who shook down peasant children for horseshoes.
>>218059684Odds are that's relevant more often than not in Flea Bottomprobably always yells that when going out into the alley
>>218059680it was self-defense, Rafe Pretti opened fire on them with her iphone.
>>218059638Good, I hope this schitzo loses his glownigger clearance.
>>218059603Steely Pate sells good steel. If Baelor had been wearing one of his helmets, it would have shattered Maekor's wrist instead
>>218059684the bar has a window are you stupid? do you need to see ser arlans pov? the whole thing with this show is it stays on dunks pov occasionally showing eggs
>>218059670I wonder what’s Dunk’s opinion on Egg’s uncle?
>>218059684can't you see the window?
>>218059696I also expected Flea Bottom to be larger, it appears to consist of one narrow street. so Rafe steals stuff then gets caught by walking straight into them twice, its hilarious.
>>218059638I stopped watching this guy for basically all of aKotSK and randomly watched some of his stream on Monday, I forgot how much of a retard he was
>>218058900What the fuck are you talking about you goofy fag?
>>218059747dex made him really upset which is hilarious when you think about it. Aegon V, just ruined his entire world.
>>218058586Hot as shit, but Ramsey was a meme already, she was nothing more than a meme's meme
>>218059734Kind of reminds me of the ghetto in Windhelm.>>218059734
You just know everyone watching this show is a discord user.It's the "quirky randumb moments" and nonchalance only a discord user would find entertaining
>>218059684>>218059711 >>218059733samefag here. the direction and development of the events weren't that well-handled because they obviously wanted to compress everything to get back to the Trial scene. that's what happens when you decide to do so much backstory during a flashback.
>>218059554>You need to trust the woodcutters version of events >He lies directly afterwards so he can steal the amuletSorry maesterbro, I don’t believe your account
>>218059638>preston has lost his shit over the reveal dunk survives summerhall, he's in a spiral of denial and his regular stupidity,Honestly, I feel like this should've been a more prevalent theory already.If Duncan had died at Summerhall, wouldn't his shield have been lost in the fire?Yet we already knew it was there in the Tarth.Unless everyone assumed he went to summerhall, without his shield, but that feels like a weird assumption.I didn't know it before the Dexter leak, I don't get too deep in asoiaf theories, but seems like there was some evidence there in retrospect. Googled around for old posts and found some stuff from like 5-10 years ago where people thought maybe Duncan survived, even one Duncan=Cold Hands post.
HotD season 3 teaser tomorrowHopes, expectations, fears?
>>218059786Why are you inventing so many strawmen over a television show?
>>218059638What the fuck are you talking about. He literally just says how he and the fandom have been wrong and used a faulty source for Dunk being dead, even said that the people making Dunk's alive theories are eating good.
>>218058569sharakosisses we are so BACK
>>218058688Call me names, but the jarring rock song out of fucking nowhere was a blast
>>218059790I don't even remember what happens to Mifune in that movie.
>>218059793Would he have ever used that sigil again after becoming a Kingsguard?
>>218059787no the scene itself is fine, its all from dunks pov, from his perspective some drnk knight just comes out of nowhere and wrecks shit. You don't need Arlans Pov, it is implied. Once again the bar has windows, so the drunk old fuck looked over aw what was happening and burst outside to deal with it.
>>218059796Less dragon budgetMore "what would you have me do?"Rhaenyra's death being framed as a heroic sacrifice
>>218059716Bloodraven enjoys Dunks and Egg's shenanigans and banters with them while Dunk is somewhat amused by BR.
>>218059793>If Duncan had died at Summerhall, wouldn't his shield have been lost in the fire?>Yet we already knew it was there in the Tarth.>Unless everyone assumed he went to summerhall, without his shield, but that feels like a weird assumption.Maybe he didn't use the same shield his whole life? He probably got it repaired or replaced at some point and left an old one on Tarth. I don't think Kingsguard usually use their individual heraldry anymore once they join usually, right?Anyways Dunk would've been like 70 after Summerhall, even if he survived it's unlikely he went back to Tarth after that, I think Brienne being a descendant is more likely related to Dunk having an affair with a highborn lady while adventuring there, not that he retired there after Egg died.
>>218059855He looks like a fucking Night Elf lol
>>218059844I would be so upsetI don't know where S3 ends though I don't think we'll get to that part until S4 since the show basically ends when Rhaenyra and Aegon both die
>>218058637>NOBODY'S GOT GREYSCALE! And I dont wanna hear that word in here again!
>>218059793I always said Dunk survived summerhall for like well over a decade now, I also think Egg survived but thats just my wish fulfillment. However Dunk surviving just made a a lot of sense and yet preston has been so hell bent on the worst possible ending he's lost it knowing that, no he's wrong its not as bad as you think you tosser
You have three options:A: Minor lordling (born to lesser House of choice + wealthy for a minor House + not especially good at fighting)B: Freshly knighted (Dunk tier + Dunk brain + sworn to lesser House of choice)C: Sketchy dabbler (some success in a magic of your choice + hired by a lesser House of choice)What do you do?What’s more worthwhile?Brawn or influence or magic?
>>218059837damnwhy did I think kingsguards kept their shieldsyeah nevermind then
>>218059796
>>218059871He's literally of the night. He's literally the villain.
>>218059826when was this? his live stream? notice how he hasn't made another review ep or anything else since ep six and hotah chapter 3 that he's been working on for ages. He's had a complete mental break down over dunk surviving.
>>218059855who's the snail?
>>218059877Shut up, Varys.
>>218059871Bloodcraven is also nothing without his magic trees
>>218059839>its all from dunks povyeah it's lucky the guy playing Ser Arlan is inherently entertaining because after six episodes we know almost nothing about him. I get that his personality is meant to show itself entirely via how he's moulded Dunc.>You don't need Arlans Pov, it is implied. upthread people are saying stuff about how Arlan's nephew having died recently (which is presumably only in the novellas) to explain why he is drunk. so to some extent this still feels like the "that is a story for another time, read the star wars novels" shit JJ was criticized for.
>>218059640>checks out the the accountNo that is not what the fag was criticizing. He was just another prog crying about chuds.
>>218059796they have a harder job than the guy adapting D&E. I just hope they do okay.
>Compares the Targs to the jewish mobBERTIE, DON'T DO IT
>>218059908>implying GRRM has fucking decided whether he's the villain or not
>>218059953no you don't know it all but if you pay attention, I know difficult looking up from your phone, you can see the grave next to ser arlan when dunk sneaks in to play with the sword
>>218059953>Arlan's nephew having died recently (which is presumably only in the novellas)It's not. You see him sleeping next to the funeral mound, and Dunk picks up the squire's helmet. It's subtle though.
HotDick s3 June confirmedTeaser tomorrow
>>218059532you niggas funny as fuck
>>218059908>He's literally of the night.darkstar=bloodraven confirmed?
>>218059927This dude, he throws Dunk on his ass cause he still can't joust for shit.
>>218059973>I must be loyle to my crown Prince
>>218059992>>218059796
>>218059973>stand up for each other>join opposite sides in an unnecessary battle, only one of which is equipped with war lancespoor guy is just assuming someone writing this stuff knew what they were doing.
>>218059909You're mentally ill.
>>218059992>from fire comes darkness>on rhaenyra's photoare we FINALLY getting Maegor With TITS?
>>218059953you'll get the story f his nephew next season, its in sworn sword, in any case if you had bothered to pay attention you would've seen the grave and not a grave for a man a smaller grave next to arlan when he's sleeping in kingslanding
>>218059905played by an ftm tranny
>>218059909You're physically sane.
>>218059992Gaynyra is so passé, dunkin’ egg mogs
>>218060026no that would be you preston, lamo, a 10 year kid has completely fucking your entire world, deal with it.
>>218058569Don't care, I would happily slamfuck his bussy until I dislocate my hip.
I would be nervous as fuck if I were Ryan Condal, it's gotta be awful putting out shit you know is sloppa when someone else is actually doing something decent with the IP
>>218059989>>218059991it's so subtle that I'm now pretty sure you are both doing PR for HBO and trying to cover up for the problems. plus if this was important information for Arlan showing up to save Dunc, you'd need Arlan POV scenes to convey that, so it's like the showrunners were struggling with their own indecisiveness about how to stucture the story. wouldn't surpise me if material was cut because test audiences thought the show was too slow and the flashback sucked the energy out of the trial battle. not being hater but jesus.
>>218059973>I took a semester and a half of Film 101>I understand The Godfather. I understand the mafia..as a concept.
>>218060001darkstar = euron = darrio = bralso Eddard survived by warging into Tommen's cat
>>218060029I'm only watching the show from a sense of obligation given that we now know the books won't be finished. if we're ever going to get a complete satisfying story in this setting then HotD is still the best bet for that to happen.
>>218060012MY FUCKING KING
>>218060068no I just like the actual books so I picked it up immediately, you can just say you are too stupid to get it, or w/e. Hilarious cope in any case I don't think HBO bothers, its HBO. On the other hand maybe it was too subtle, did any non book readers pick up on it? I'm very curious if you did?
>>218060068For what it's worth I think it should be spelled out a little more clearly, unless you know it's there it's very easy to miss, it's almost an easter egg as is, but it's there. I don't think it's 100% necessary to understand the story as is but it does make Arlan just look like some crazy drunk if you don't understand the context.
>>218059877I'm a lordling hiring all the Dunks
>his origin story is that his rebel girlfriend died so he decided to be goodso sick of this lazy trope
>>218060097>I'm only watching the show from a sense of obligationjesus, what is wrong with you? if you don't like it drop it, are you some yt faggot? the asoiaf story is over, you will never get anything else wtf is wrong with you? I am watching because I like the books and seeing scenes from the books on screen is really nice, thats it.
>>218059905>not in season 2He's going to be misused
>>218059992I hope they do a money shot this season
>>218058602This guy was pretty cool, they should build him a church.
>Dragons and magic returning to the world serve no ultimate purpose in the GoT tv show, White Walkers get stopped by a little girl with a daggerYou don't hate D&D enough
>>218059905The Targaryen twink to end all Targaryen twinks.
>>218060168what was night king's mana meter?
>>218058953i thought it was a graceful way to adapt dunk's pov from that point in the novella where it goes something like "aerion had vanquished ser duncan the tall, but not dunk of flea bottom" when dunk draws on the grit he'd learned in his childhoodmaybe the flashback dragged on too long in execution though
>>218059877C.Join house Beesbury and use magic to make the best honey.
>>218059877Minor Lordling because I know what happens until Winds so I can choose the right side max and chill
>>218059877B for the int boost is tempting
>>218059992That was fast. I think. Don't contradict me; I don't want to know how long it's been.
>>218060106I read them just a long time ago, I think some time after ADWD came out? much too long ago to remember that kind of detail. anyway so much else about Dunc's origin is changed for all I knew you were just both simultaneously pulling factoids out of your butts.
>>218059028>Be Daeron>one grand uncle died figthing some sand people>the other was a religious nutter but he gave you a nice brown wife so you like him more>Then your father get's on the throne>your dad tries to invade dorne with a fleet>tell him that's dumb>he does it regardless and it burns down>your onw dad now hates you >constantly says that you are a bastard of your uncle >(sometimes you wish you were)>he constantly flaunts royal wealth and shats out bastards>he even gives a fimmily sword to one of them>with time your half sibling are>Some bitch who bathes in bloos>An albino obsessed with trees>Horse incel >Meanwhile you make some kids>Well they seem alright defninitelly better then your dad>O abaut him. He died>That's Good>But he also legitemised all your "siblings">That's bad>You crown yourself with dads crown because you ARE his son>you finnaly get dorne to the 7 kingdoms>You are the first ACTUALL king with 7 kingdoms>Feel Good Vala>You thank your Uncle because out of all he was the nicest to you>You TRY accomodate your siblings>they still chimpout>FFS>Your kids actually do well and even that weirdo Bloodraven is helpful>well that's nice>You get grand kids, wonderful>Maekar's are a fucking mess>One is a drunk other is fucking mad, other goes to citadel, and other is a spoiled fuck who think's he is a dragon and read's too much abaut Maegor>Baelor's kids seem fine...so that's nice>You make him your hand of the king, Aprentanceship so he knows what's where>Hey it all finnaly looks bright>You send your kids and grandkids to a tourney>PR shit>Aerion snaps some fingers, Baelor dies for some hedge knight, and got killed by Maekar>Your grandkids Valar and Matys die because of coof>And then you die leaving a realm to Maekar and his branch>God's Old and New help Us AllDeron II had a hard life
I didn't finish GoT and didn't bother with HotD but I am liking the Dunk show minus the old guy's massive dick flopping around
>>218058569why is a tranny in charge of triarchy?
>>218060146OCD is a thing. good fantasy is also rare and the cast (especially Claffy) are also near-perfect. I also really think you could fanedit the show down to 2 hours and it would be massively improved. the pacing is absolutely murdering it for me.
>>218060255Bro, it's one scene. Did you rewind your videotape?
I feel like a massive tard for not seeing why Egg is obviously bald to hide that he's a Targ. Hidden in plain sight and they played me like a fiddle.
Why do people like Baelor?Guy's a piece of shit. The only difference between him and Aerion is he's slightly more mindful of public perception.
>>218060168it's really GRRM's fault. he didn't really understand what kind of high fantasy tone he was establishing by putting all that in book 1.
>>218058637fucking blackfyres, don't come around here no more!
AKotSK was a really tight show until the last episode. That flashback was filler. It wasn't in the book was it. Felt like modern writer syndrome shit. Just padding with slpunky badass chick and basic bitch premise (we gotta get this thing to go to this place. oh no but i died)
>>218060187they had a flashback in the same episode, you'd think they'd have thought of cutting from Dunk winning a streetfight as a kid to him beating Aerion's ass in the present to make the point. but they didn't.
>>218060255I still don't understand why gotfags get mad about poop and cock when poop and cock are gurm's favorite things to write about after food
>>218060294He can't pick a lane between stark realism of feudal politics and price of war stuff and the literal high fantasy dragons, fire gods, tree wizards that can time travel etc. None of the magic stuff has any kind of satisfying payoff in the story at any point.
>>218059877Minor lordling free
>>218060224>int bestNobody tell him
>>218060306it wasn't tight at all lol
>>218060325SUNSET
Baelor joining at the last second felt forced and I didn't buy it.
>>218060325Don't forget his graphic descriptions of cum dripping everywhere
>>218060016I’m convinced the only reason Baelor joined Dunk’s side in the trial was out of vanity. He knew the appearance of the heir sticking up for a know-nothing hedgeknight would be beneficial to his future as King, and he wanted to prove he is truly superior to Maekar in battle. He saved Dunk but failed in what he was actually trying to do.
>>218060236just admit you arent paying attention and really have no idea what you are talking about and we can move on, or better yet stop replying, you don't know what you are talking about so why do it?
I don't care, from the moment they returned from the flashback, until the credits popped, it was genuinely the greatest television I have ever watched and I'm being so serious. What a fucking masterpiece
3 days until hotd reclaims its rightful general
>>218060325not in the hedge knight though, it's a pretty wholesome tone
>>218060382It's just frustrating because it really could have been a 9/10 episode if they had handled the flashback differently.
>>218060327I don't know if you can go from high fantasy back to low fantasy at the end of your story like he wants, and be satisfying. people want escapism and making Westeros feel realistic was always a way to make the escapism more immersive, not deliver a clunky message about how hero worship is le bad.
>>218059071yes that was a lie, who the fk told you that lol
>>218060327i think he meant to bring the high fantasy elements back but he ended up writing in such a close/detailed perspective that he's not even a third through his original outline of the story yet
>>218060372I'm of the mind that Baelar and Maekar getting together before the battle and agreeing with their teams to let Aerion and Dunc 1v1, then Baelor dying by accident because Maekar got nervous when Dunc started curbstomping his son, would have fixed a lot of the problems. we could have found out after the battle so Dunc's POV is still completely dramatic. but GRRM never thought of this idea and has 2 knights die immediately instead, making everyone look kind of like a low iq honourbot for letting it go ahead. oh well.
>>218058711
I just realized the drunk Targ paying with a coin that had their crest on it in the beginning was such fucking obvious foreshadowing
>>218060427>high fantasy back to low fantasythe fact that you fucking stupid children don't understand what that means really annoys me. High fantasy is a world of its own, I.E Middle Earth, Forbidden Realms, Lion Witch and the Wardrobe and yes Gurm. Low fantasy is stories in our own world but has fantasy elements, I.E stories you've never heard of like Night Watch, Percy Jackson, Dresden Files, hell Buffy. God you fucktards piss me off sometimes.
>>218059223>30 minute fightKek it would have been like that endless wrestling sequence in They Live
Any lore friends?What's the deal with dark haired targs? I know their gimmick is that they never touch the iron throne but is that coincidence, or is it important? Are dark hair targs like particular good people and honorful like Baelor or is he just an outlier
I would take Ser Duncan's side and so would every Beesbury chad.
>>218060512he was paying with a gold dragon, thats a years wage to your average peon. He had just paid 40-50'000 for one drink. Thats why the inn keep looks at dunk worried like he might rob her.
Fellow Chudders... we won.
>>218060066bold of you to assume retards like condom have any capability for self-reflection like that
did bro have the hots of vhagar?
>>218060600They are strong lads
At least they got a guy who's actually really fucking tall to play Duncan
>>218060632They definitely coiled
I own the asoiaf man series, the akotsk book and the dunkin egg graphic novels, what should I add to my collection to complete it?
>>218060489based boomer dragon
>>218060484Well they didn’t let the fighters have a morning of rest/there was hardly any time to seriously deliberate between the Targs because Aerion was likely hoping that so little time would mean Dunk wouldn’t come up with 6 other Knights to fight with him. Which might have been a plan concocted with Maekar’s help. They swayed Steffon from Dunk’s side immediately after Steffon promised Dunk he “won’t let him die.”
>>218060620>thumbnail is some weird AI picture of Egg sitting on Dunk's lap that doesn't appear in the show
>>218060644blood and fire and the world of westeros
>>218060618I saw it as him recognizing who Egg was too
>>218060644a set of dragon dildos
>>218060644Get Fire and Blood.
>>218060661thats the ending
>>218060674Wait, was Egg in that scene?
>>218060690bro look at it it's AI
>>218060650but isn't it better that the entire crowd got together at dawn to watch a battle that they mostly couldn't see because of fog and hadn't had any time to find out about beforehand?
>>218059318The maesters did this somehow
>>218060600It usually means one of the parents wasn’t Targaryen. Adding some non-inbred genes and perspective into their lives means they are often better people, but less likely to be king.
>>218060674huh? the innkeep is a woman, and no dunk did not get that the "stable boy" was a targ. She looks at Dunk to check that he doesn't realize the coin she just pocketed
All these spinoffs and GRRM can't still finish his main fucking story.
>>218060600Doesn't really mean anything except that they aren't as inbred as most of the other ones
>>218060620Welp time to drop the show
>>218059318This doesn't look terrible, even in medieval times right? Like I swear I've heard of people living with worse even before those times
>>218060747the 3 Dunk and Egg stories were written before GoT was even out.
>>218060747this "spinoff" was written long before the main series even got to dance. the fatman hasn't written anything worth mentioning for 15 years
>>218059905
>>218060763yes your brain dropping out of your skull is ok, tis merely a scratch
>>218060778The fudge are you talking about?
>>218060787someone tried to reproduce this but asoiaf? lol how far did they get?
>>218060713>It usually means one of the parents wasn’t Targaryenyes>Adding some non-inbred genes and perspective into their lives means they are often better people, but less likely to be king.no, it just means if they don't have the traditional look of a Targaryen they face more prejudice
>>218059734I think Fleabottom is a lot larger than what is depicted in the flashback, that's just a specific corridor or alley Dunk & Rafe frequent. Daemon and Rhaenyra explore a bit more.>>218060709>revelers and knights are all gathered at this festival tourney celebration where word certainly spreads quickly that the first Trial of the Seven in a hundred years is going to be fought in several hours and it will feature royals + their giganigga kingsguard vs this no name knight who already publicly beat the shit out of one of them, hurr it's so unbelievable>like seriously who would want to stop partying or wake up to watch that?How are your farts smelling this morning?
>>218060782And yet he has the gall to criticize Tolkien when the only reason Tolkien stopped writing was because he fucking died.
>>218060763He's the crown Prince, even if he somehow survived that you probably don't want a guy to be King with that much of his brain missing.
>>218060856aye stupid little fatfuck
>>218060787But what of the Bees?
>>218060856people give grrm too hard a time over tolkien, he extols tolkien's virtues all the time and his criticism seems to mostly just about wanting to tell a different type of story
>>218060550is there actually a set definiton?i always thought it's about the character of the world, a low fantasy setting being similarly grounded to our world (like the political elements of asoiaf) while a high fantasy one works on its own logic or a mythological level
>>218060919Literally the only thing I've seen GRRM actually criticize Tolkein for is bringing Gandalf back from the dead, he's clearly a fan.
>>218060787the brown wojak in the three kings is my wife btw
>>218060919Well then he should tell his own story, which he refuses to finish. The Lord of the Rings is a finished work, GRRM keeps going on side quests and not finishing what he started and he'll die before he ever finishes it.
>>218060103I genuinely hate that Cersei confirmed it. I wish she had denied it, or not acknowledged it, then I bet people to this day would be arguing whether it's true or not.
>>218060940GRRM definitely appreciates LotR, however, what were Aragorn's tax policies?
>>218060160If I don’t see tits in the 1st episode I’m dropping it.
>>218060939no there is a set definition
>>218060168That fat faggot could just retcon the show, the night king isn’t even really in the books.
>>218060939are you saying "high fantasy" doesn't have political elements or is "grounded" I would suggest you read hobb. What you are saying is high fantasy doesn't have believable characters settings or a logical setup. Which is retarded.
lol
Does the person who knighted you matter?Like can Raymun stroll up to Storms End and say hi and just kinda chill because Lyonel personality knighted him?
>>218059603the clouts he's taken to the ear all his life have progressively trained his head into being as hard as steel, like those kungfu guys
>>218061033So who does 4chan hate more, jews or browns?
>>218061033one-dornish drop rule
>>218060787The Starks supporting the Blacks is genuinely so cringe, George wanted to beat people over the head that they were the morally superior side. There has literally never been a female ruler of Winterfell because the Starks weren't about that shit, except this one time.
>>218061033>now this cute little boy is evil because we realized he's Aegon
>>218061045Fuck it why not? Offer your services too the Lord of Storm’s End.
>>218059684Arlan slices anyone wielding a sword when he wakes up hungover, a true knight!
>>218061067The Starks legitimized Aegon II's rule though.
>>218061056>4chan is one personcould you please you know what 4chan hates?, YOU, you fucking tourist FUCK OFF
I'm not ready for Dunc's inevitable death bros
>>218061094He survives, Preston.
>>218061033>Baelor's not black! I mean... he's pretty tan.
>>218061045only in that being knighted by someone extremely based like Arthur Dayne or a king will add to your status
>>218061067The Starks are never beating the MUH HUNOR allegations
>>218059700>kick open door with sword drawn>yell "sir, stop raping">behead the first peasant you see>repeatA hero to all.
>>218061132They have no honour because they went against the laws of Westeros for personal gain in supporting the Blacks.
>>218059684It's loud and he's watching it happen through the window
>>218061094He went on to have a chill retirement in Dorne
>>218061103>>218061151As if they won't change it for shock value like typical HBO
>>218061067>Support yet another Targ roastie >End up getting half a million civilians killedAre the Starks the dumbest major house on the continent?
>>218061170>are the starks the dumbest houseYes, by miles
I can't wait until they ruin the show like they always do. The tears will be epic.
>>218061067I know it's hard to understand for green shitters, but an oath is an oath
>>218061170yes. f*rst m*n are a bunch of retards
>>218061208The first oath they took to Aegon was to serve him and his heirs, and the Blacks were his rightful heirs. The Starks also took part in the council that put boys ahead of smelly girls. Obviously we, the fans, know Aegon himself got cuckolded by both his sisters so he had no legitimate heirs but the people in the setting aren't aware of that.
>>218061232>Strong bastards>rightful heirs
>>218061232>cuckolded by both his sisters so he had no legitimate heirslies. balerion burn anon to the ground
>>218061067>George wanted to beat people over the head that they were the morally superior side.People are genuinely too dumb to understand that the Greens are in the wrong, so he had to do it
Why does every targ marry a martell?Is Dorne really that special? Why is it always Dorne they choose to interbreed with
>>218061255I meant greens
>I'm cooming aaaaaah
>>218061256>So inbred they should basically be clones>Look totally different form his, besides hair and eye colourMaegor was probably fathered by a First Man barbarian while Aenys comes from the bollocks of an Andal poet.
>>218060787>Nettlesone thing that really sucks with black velaryons is that they felt like they could just shelf Nettles because they filled their diversity quota.I know some people here would still be mad about Nettles, but gods I wish we got her and real velaryons instead.Her possibly not even being a dragonseed and looking nothing like valyrians would come across much stronger if the Velaryons were white.
>>218061308Dorne had plot armour which made it so the Dragons couldn't conquer them and they BTFO'd Aegon and gang raped one of his sisters and killed her Dragon, so they had to beg the brown men to join the Kingdom. Because of this, Dorne gets to keeps its royal title (which, so it's not confusing to the readers, is Prince instead of King) so they're higher ranked than all the other houses in terms of prestige.
Do you think they're going to pussy out from doing the end of Dance of Dragons properly?
>>218061321gods. the redheads were hot back then
>>218060268Essosi lads are a bit fruity
>>218061045A knight is a knight, anon. But the advantage to being knighted by lord like Lyonel is that it's easier to prove than being knighted by some ser literally-who hedge knight. Also, yes, Raymund probably could just stroll up to Storms End, and have a seat in the banquet hall, considering that Lyonel has recognized his honor, and they fought side by side in the Trial by Seven. At least until Lyonel grows tired of him
>>218061358Rhaenyra's death will be portrayed as a bold stance against the patriarchy with every woman in attendance crying silently.
>>218061346Why is Dorne resistant to Dragons again? Such a stupid logic
>>218061308First time was to just bring them into the fold.Second time I don't really know.
>>218061308Those huge dark nipples making men unwise.
>>218061045Raymun can go up to any castle because he brings the cider, no-one is going to turn him away.
new bread>>218061390>>218061390>>218061390>>218061390
>>218061377desert powerwater magic
>>218061377Maybe Garion cursed the Dragonlords of Old Valyria and it protects Dorniggers from them
>>218061308The most racist man alive and his girlfriend meme.
>>218061232It’s not cuckolding if Aegon is infertile
>>218061377>Such a stupid logicnot really
ep 6 trailer soundtrack is really top notch. giving me really high expectations for the last episode, I hope I won't be disappointed
>>218059318This scene was underwhelming because the show did a piss poor job o show us the battles. I was completely lost in the sauce.
>>218059360>boozy Arlan utterly btfos two gold cloaks on their own turfI've talked to a couple of lawyers and they had nothing on him
>>218061142They pledged allegiance to Rhaenyra before the Dance, just like every other faction.
>>218061377Invading Russia in winter is what Dorne isJust the desert version
