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new season of lesbian fanfiction edition
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>>218061390
>tfw I dont know what I must do
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BIG
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>>218061390
Beware Our Sting
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Thank you Sarah Smith! Fuck you Sara Hess!
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>>218061377
>Why is Dorne resistant to Dragons again?
fantasy version of this pic
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What the FUCK am I watching
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>>218061390
>wHaT iF rHaEnYs CaMe ThRoUgH tHe FlOoR oN a DrAgOn?!
>wHaT iF rHaEnYrA aNd MySaRiA kIsSeD oUt Of NoWhErE?!
>wHaT iF rHaEnYrA aNd AlLiCeNt MaDe Up AnD rAn OfF tO eSsOs?!
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>>218061432
Yeah kinda
I feel like it's more like they also managed to sink a supercarrier though
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>>218061358
>Final scene is Rhaenyra walking towards the dragon pit looking somber whilst white men cheer and clap.
>Fade to black.
>Credits, no music.
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>>218061422
>Beeware Our Sting
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HAI YAI FORCES~~
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>>218061412
>Verification not requireď
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Who is the son of Rhaenyra that finally gets the throne when all the dust settles? Aegon III? Yeah, he’ll be black somehow
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>>218061470
Ah, my build for Dark Souls, Dark Souls 2, Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring
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Aerion won the duel fair and square. The fight should have been declared for him. Duncan "winning" via tard rage was a disgrace to the Seven and should have disqualified him. The gods struck Baelor down in anger after witnessing that shameful display
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>>218061487
He's white but he'll get a black wife (canon)
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>>218061444

That fucking chin is so funny. I can't take Aemond serious
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>A handful remained defiant, however. “Do not imagine this is done, boy,” warned one, the bastard son of some Florent or other. “The Lord of Light protects King Stannis, now and always. All your swords and all your scheming shall not save you when his hour comes.”

>“Your hour is come right now.” Joffrey beckoned to Ser Ilyn Payne to take the man out and strike his head off. But no sooner had that one been dragged away than a knight of solemn mien with a fiery heart on his surcoat shouted out, “Stannis is the true king! A monster sits the Iron Throne, an abomination born of incest!”

>“Be silent,” Ser Kevan Lannister bellowed.

>The knight raised his voice instead. “Joffrey is the black worm eating the heart of the realm! Darkness was his father, and death his mother! Destroy him before he corrupts you all! Destroy them all, queen whore and king worm, vile dwarf and whispering spider, the false flowers. Save yourselves!” One of the gold cloaks knocked the man off his feet, but he continued to shout. “The scouring fire will come! King Stannis will return!”

>Joffrey lurched to his feet. “I’m king! Kill him! Kill him now! I command it.” He chopped down with his hand, a furious, angry gesture . . . and screeched in pain when his arm brushed against one of the sharp metal fangs that surrounded him. The bright crimson samite of his sleeve turned a darker shade of red as his blood soaked through it. “Mother!” he wailed.

>With every eye on the king, somehow the man on the floor wrested a spear away from one of the gold cloaks, and used it to push himself back to his feet. “The throne denies him!” he cried. “He is no king!”
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>>218061428
>looks up Sara Hess
Not born a Sarah, I'm guessing.
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>>218061470
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>>218061444
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>>218061515
What house would you pick a king from?
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>>218061506
>Aerion won the duel fair and square
no he lost in front of the Seven
The Smith should turn Aerion's bones into mortar for construction of a Sept honoring Ser Duncan the Tall
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>uhhh we need targarayan wigs sir
>just spray paint a mop head and put it on this ape lol
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She was the hottest and most beautiful woman out of all the shows. You cannot change my mind
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>>218059855
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>>218061444
Omega chin
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>>218061554
is asshai not-india or not-japan?
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>From Fire Comes Darkness
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>>218061506
if the gods wanted Duncan to stay down, he would have stayed down
you're retarded
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>>218061553
I like that them being black wasn't too much of a stretch, but just giving them straight hair was.
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The worst part of the yuri fanficification, "I'm just a girl uwu"ism, and assorted rape victimry wrought by HoTD season 2 is that my cutthroat bitchfu that was mid to late season 1 Alicent is fucking dead and buried.

This simpering pussy is no longer the gigastacy who puppeteered the kingdom while Rhae Rhae hid on Dragonstone for a decade pissing her pants and nearly personally gutted her like a fish.
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What are some spooky lore?
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>>218061547
> construction of a Sept honoring Ser Duncan the Tall
Baelor and Hardyn gave their lives so sept should be in their honor
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>>218061572
There's no good analogy like that for Asshai
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https://youtu.be/KRAoyJ493N4&t=146
>we didn't get the scene of pate armoring dunk
damn why'd cut that
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>>218061595
The Night's King (book). Man so seduced by blue pussy he was willing to risk it all.
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>>218061595
The spoopiest is when D&D decided to make the White Walkers zombies.
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>>218061554

Stannis was a simp and I don't blame him
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>>218061444
>mother, a word
what a chad
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>>218061542
The most worthy house is, no joke, the Hightowers. Not only were they in Westeros even before the First Men, they are the great patrons of the two most important White institutions of Westeros, the Citadel of the Maesters and the Faith of the Seven. They completely integrated the Andals in the reach, as well and tried to save the realm from the evil wacky Dragon people. The Dornish hate them as well, for some reason, which is a good sign as Good is often scorned by Evil.
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>>218061554
R'hllor conversions skyrocketed after they made the chief requirement to be a priestess was to be smokin hot.
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>>218061515
Why did dumb and dumber cut out Jaehaerys II?
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Post redhead dunk fan
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>>218061644
It was a good choice. They need people to know that even the most beloved Targshits, like Egg, are still evil as fuck and capable of spawning insane dragonspawn like Aerys II.
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>>218061390
how are they saving this?
you think they're going to reshot things from S2 to course correct more easily?
dunk being hugely successful while following the source material white hotd crashing while making up shit and ignoring george, shouldn't sit well with HBO suits, right?
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>>218061595
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Total targshit death.
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>>218061660
Recast all Valryans to be white, GoT constantly recasted characters and none complained
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>>218061660
Ultimately, people don't give a shit about women on dragons. All of the female dragonriders across the shows looked retarded in battle.
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>>218061660
>dunk being hugely successful while following the source material white hotd crashing while making up shit and ignoring george

a very comprehensive list of shit that didn't happen
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>>218061553
lmao just realized those are white dreadlocks
whats the lore justification for them not washing their hair?
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Why was the trailer for season 2 so good

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XuKfFzk1uQs&pp=ygUhR2FtZSBvZiB0aHJvbmVzIHNlYXNvbiAyIHRyYWlsZXIg

I want to go back
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>>218061606
don't post chud media here pls
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> I was completely lost in the sauce.
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>>218061554
I'm pretty certain she plays a jewess in a ww2 movie with full frontal nudity.
I remember watching that during history lessons back in the day.
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>>218061660
No, now that Gurm publicly disavowed this show they're just gonna double down on the fanfiction.
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/hotd/ balkanization fucking when?
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>>218061554
She didn’t have the stark red hair or red eyes like in the books, but she was easily the best choice. She had that mystique.
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>>218061698
uhh
sea salt in the water
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>>218061660
>shouldn't sit well with HBO suits, right?
They don't give a shit dude. This is extremely apparent with the other dogshit shows on streaming services right now. Witcher, for instance, and let's not forget Rings of Power got renewed for ANOTHER season recently.

The thing with streaming is that they are not beholden to ads. During the time of cable a shitty show would mean people would turn off the tv and not see adds, and it would then get cancelled. Streaming doesn't have that problem. You can put absolute dogshit and people will watch it because of name recognition, or hell they may even hate-watch it, doesn't matter if it's good or not. Plus if you add literal gay shit and degenerate shit and niggers you'll be golden.

So they're not saving it. It's gonna be shit, just like season 2. Anyone worth a damn left during season 1, and they were already shooting season 3 while season 2 got universally panned, not like they're gonna change anything.
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>>218061682
>GoT constantly recasted characters and none complained
well, i didn't like 3rd mountain. 2nd one was kino
and I liked first daario more
who else? ah yeah, 2nd dondarrion was great
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>>218061595
Would you consider Harenhall as being in the north or south?
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>>218061701
That's a terrible fucking song
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>>218061640
Based chosen ones
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>>218061656
>it was a good choice
If you’re retarded I guess.
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>>218061660
There just too far out from the admittedly rough source material to course correct at this point. Both Alicent and Rhaenyra are vastly different characters than they are in the book and its very clear from the direct S2 went that the writers are essentially making up their own story with Fire & Blood characters. The quality can certainly improve but the story is fucked.
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>>218061697
>a very comprehensive list of shit that didn't happen
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>>218061640
Wtf, how were they in Westeros before the First Men? And what religion did they follow then?
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>>218061703
Was this the scene that brained Baelor?
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>>218061660
More scenes of Gawayne Hightower and Criston Cole, the highlight of the whole show, and more Riverlands (but without that boring faggot simp Daemon). The Beesbury revolution in Old Town, too. The writers need to understand the themes, basically two chud brothers (Aemond and Aegon) are being used by their evil mother against the equally as evil Rhaeneyra, who is using her own sons (and chud husband) to fight her wars for her as women aren't made for battle. It's to show that women shouldn't be in power, this is consistent across ASOIAF. Mad Queen Cersei, Mad Queen Dany, Lady Stoneheart / Mad Cat starting the war of the Five Kings, Jaeaherys' wife leaving him for having the foresight to understand this, Aegon's sister tearing their family apart because she wants her son to rule, Lysa losing the War of the Five Kings for her family (the Tullys) because she is addicted to cock, Rohanne Webber being abstinent and petty because the dick she logned for the most was denied to her, the She-Wolves of Winterfell (probably) tearing eachother apart over who controls the North, Dorne being a third world shithole (woman rule there) and the mad quest for revenge of the zesty peadophile Oberon and his daughters, etc. Woman and power don't mix.
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REMEMBER THE SUNWELL
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>>218061748
I hope George gets super spiteful before he dies and writes all the remaining scripts for dunk with Ira rather than work on books he'll never finish, I don't see why not, hasn't the motherfucker always wanted to be a script writer anyways?
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>brother in law joins trial, who's guaranteed to die because of a broken leg
>bunch of guys you barely know except Baelor and Lyonel
>knows the kingsguard will likely kill him on the charges but trusts himself
>Literally had a dance circle formed around him because he's so jolly
>has legitimately no reason to throw his life away
He has actually no stakes in this whatsoever and still joins the good fight
Everyone else has a semi decent recent for joining the trial.
He just wanted to help. He's joining the side that is literally certain to fail, and has no reason to.
For the Bees bros.
For the bees.
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>>218061800
George...
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>>218061757
if the HotD writers could ignore George, they wouldn't be writing a story where everyone is an asshole then dies.
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>>218061683
Shes definitely the worst character in the entire show
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>>218061802
THE RECKONING IS AT HAND
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>>218061800
>equally as evil Rhaeneyra
Lmao. They've spent far too much time humanizing her and making her a good person, if they change her to be book accurate now it'll feel as forced and out of place as Danny's transformation in GOT.
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>>218061774
Probably some Paganism that worshipped gods like the Elenei, Storm God, Drowned God, (proto) Garth the Green, Lady of the Waves and the Lord of the Skies, etc.
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>>218061794
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Are 4 pages for one person a lot?
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>>218061800
Don’t forget Lyanna who run away with Targ and caused destruction of Targ dynasty
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>>218061743
“Seven Devils” is incredibly fitting, fuck you.
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I wanted to post some melly sanders titties but i'm not gonna fuck around with ublock on the phone just to get the captcha
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>>218061843
It's the book of Kingsguards, and there have been hundreds of them. You do the math.
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>>218061830
>tries to give her a heckin' original girlboss moment
>said scene just makes her the biggest retard in the entire series
it's beautiful really, a perfect representation of the people behind the show
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>I dont think Baelor was mad at Maekar, it was like they were boys playfighting again and he was happy that his brother was such a good fighter
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>>218061866
>tfw the twink 16" shorter than you is inexplicably good at fighting for no reason
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>>218061898
> for no reason
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>>218061843
its the most of any kingsguard in history
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>>218061847
No, this one is different because she was snatched up and raped. IMO Elia put the idea in Rheagar's head, though, possibly because she was too sickly to bear more children and Rhaegar needed three.
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>>218061898
>inexplicably
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>>218061866
Fucking love the horses basically hitting into Aerion and Dunk
It's so real, horses are unpredictable, horseback combat in a situation like this is clunky and confusing and scary for all involved, horses included.
I also fucking love Dunk recoiling at the pain of the lance puncture, reminding us that it happened and is actively affecting him, stopping him from going in for the kill after knocking Aerion down. It's amazing.
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>>218061843
Most Kingsguard do a whole lot of fuck all for most of their service.
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>>218061896
>"... He's strong."
>*dies*
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>>218061515
>book illustrations are black and white, but the ones that appear in the shows are all in color, even the ones where the actors are babies
the showfaggotry stench on you.
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>>218061896
Having actors that care about the source material is such a blessing
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>>218061959
Yes that is the point of the image, retard...
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>>218061909
>>218061933
he shouldn't even be able to hit Dunc hard enough to slow him down.
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>>218061606
>>we didn't get the scene of pate armoring dunk
>damn why'd cut that

Needed the time for the irrelevant hour long flashback of young Dunk and his stronk mulatto grrl friend doing absolutely nothing.
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>>218061841
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We see like 10 total minutes of Baelor screentime and he's pretty much a top 3 character ever. How did they do it
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>>218061660
>how are they saving this?

What do you mean? Did something happen?
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>>218061982
>hour long flashback in a 40 minute episode
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>>218061660
>garbage is half a year out from release when dunc starts airing
>think they can course correct with what they have in that amount of time off reception of dunc
We're getting slopkino again I can't wait to shitpost
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>>218061523
WOT IF RHAENYS BURST FROM THE DRAGON PIT
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>>218061660
They’re not going to be saving it, your grace
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>>218061640
>they in Westeros even before the First Men

That was House Dayne, not the Hightowers.
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>>218061542
Unironically Jon Arryn should have been king
It was his rebellion and he was wiser than Robert
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>>218061822
were the kingsguard known for being good with the lance or why are you saying he knew he was going to die on the charge?
wasn't he and his brother in law champion jousters?
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>>218062049
You're rushing someone else rushing you with a giant stick. Skill only does so much for you when constantly charging, he's definitely good but in jousting anyone can win.
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>>218061470
Is there any "silly" weapon in this franchise? Would be cool to see someone like Sanosuke around.
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>>218061987
because you are bad at assessing media and really want to project things onto a sketch of a person.

you'd probably like him less if he was more fleshed-out because then he wouldn't be a projection of your own identity.
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>>218061983
what is he drinking?
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>>218061660
>how are they saving this?
At least 15 minutes of fully frontal nude Criston Cole in every episode
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nice armour
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>>218061595
Wouldn't meteorites falling happen at Essos?
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>>218062072
lol so you just made that up
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>>218062074
Robert’s warhammer is canonically too heavy for Ned to even pick up.
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>The Kingsguard at the beginning of the series is a shadow of its former self
>...except for Jaime, the best fighter in the series according to George,
>Barristan Selmy, a famous and beloved Knight respected across all of Westeros
>and Mandon Moore (who Jaime thinks is even more formidable than Barristan, being that he feels he's the most dangerous man on the Kingsguard aside from him),
>and Preston Greenfield who protects the Kings' party from the rioters and even is brave enough to try and rescue the High Septon,
>and Meryn Trant, who's an older guy and probably served for years and is still strong enough to defeat the "First Sword of Braavos"
>and Boros Blount, who's only crime was surrendering Tommen (even though, by the way, if he was in disguise and Boros didn't know the attackers then fighting to the death would actually have given up Tommen's disguise. If they were Stannis' men, then pretending Tommen was someone else and trying to get a ransom unironically was the play) and who'd already been a Kingsugard for eleven years, meaning we don't see him in his prime (he's bald and grey)
Literally only Arys is actually a shitty Knight who snakes them, the other ones are all fine. What's with all the anti-Kingsguard propoganda? If they just said "you can serve until a certain age", there'd be zero issues with it. Osmund Kettleblack, Loras Tyrell, Balon Swann, Robert STRONG!? The current Kingsguard is fucking LEGENDARY compared to the shitters of old. If they cycled out Boros and Meryn (for being old, nothing personal guys) and got some young bucks in there, this would actually be the greatest Kingsguard in history.
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>>218061944
One of his final thoughts being to smile and be proud of how well his brother fights right after he just killed him was both wholesome and extremely sad
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>>218061642
Wish R'hllor got explored more, granted all of the religions in asoiaf are underbaked.
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>>218062115
So fucking COOL
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>>218062139
He died on the first charge
He literally died on the first charge IMMEDIATELY
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>>218062168
>>and Meryn Trant, who's an older guy and probably served for years and is still strong enough to defeat the "First Sword of Braavos"
He 3v1'd a dude with a wooden sword, are you fucking serious right now nigga? Trant is a canonical jobber.
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>>218062074
They's the Stark's sword Ice, which had so much mass that it was able to be reforged into two blades.
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>>218062191
The greatest swordsman that ever lived didn't have a sword?
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maekar is just abrasive not an outright asshole
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>>218061841
that clearly hits the side of his head 0/10 show
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>>218062216
The greatest swordsman IS the sword himself
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>>218062004
Timedilation.
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>>218062191
So? He has no anti-feats. Cersei actually thinks so highly of him as a fighter that she thinks Margaery will chose him as her champion.
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>>218062179
you said he knew he would die
are you fucking retarded? you are saying he was a seer that could see the future? retard
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>>218061748
>film adaptation of book or video game
>doesnt follow the source material at all

Why does Hollywood do this? Why adapt something if youre not even going to follow it? Why not just make your own thing?
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>>218062217
>yes, yes! equip my side with real lances! with luck my cur brother will be skewered on the first charge and the throne will be mine!!

he's just misunderstood
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Here's your Robert's Rebellion, bro.
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>>218061978
>he shouldn't even be able to hit Dunc hard enough to slow him down.

Aerion was an athletic guy who had been trained daily by the best fighters in Westeros since he was a little kid, he only lost because Dunk is fuck huge and has a ton of hit points.
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>>218062168
MERYN FUCKING TRANT?!
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>>218062240
I love the source material, but what if x was y, and what b was c, and what if f was g, and what if m was n...
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>>218061843
so they say
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>>218062151
>Robert’s warhammer is canonically too heavy for Ned to even pick up.

Complete nonsense, Gurm is a dumbass who thinks war "hammer!" means a sledgehammer.
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>>218062245
gee thanks I always wanted to vist the... Royal Shakespeare... theatre
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>>218062237
Are you a child? Have you ever gone to school? Have you ever read a book or interacted with a human being in real life before
Sounds like you're incapable of context
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>>218062245
I'll jump t'train to go and see this
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>>218062240
>>film adaptation of book or video game
>>doesnt follow the source material at all
>Why does Hollywood do this?

Part of it is arrogance and part of it is purposely using the original story to promote woketarded propaganda.
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>>218062151
>>218062301
>>218062195
the reality is that when GRRM wrote the line about Ned not being able to pick up Rob's hammer, he'd simply forgotten about Ice also being canonically fuckhuge.

the fat man just exaggerates for effect and is limited in his other literary tools.
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>>218062245
Will this reveal the identity of the fabled Knight of the Laughing Tree™?
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>>218062312
gay and wrong
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>>218062240
for name recognition I guess
some book fans will just cope and still watch the shows
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>>218062379
You're so mad get ragebaited omg
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>>218062362
does egg have baratheon blood, is that why his pubes is black
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>>218061644
They....yeah
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>>218062408
oh you were just pretending to be retarded? okay then
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Remember when Dunk entered the lists as The Gallows Knight what a cringe edgelord
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>>218062240
Scheduling and budget can account for some things but not all of them of course
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>>218062424
He's a quarter Dornish
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>>218062240
>Can't come up with anything new or don't want to take the risk
>Buy brand with established name recognition and already built up clientele to avoid risk
>Arrogantly butcher the story cause you think you know better than the original creator on how the story should be and cause the marketing dept backs as long as you add DEI trash that follows their "market research"
>Think clientele will still give you their money cause they're idiot nerds
>Seethe when no one wants your fanfic trash and the execs fry your ass so you have to to blame the nerds
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>>218062473
Half Dornish, grandma is a Martell and mom is a Dayne
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>>218062240
An established IP will make money no matter the quality of the product
see: Star Wars
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>>218061554
Melisandre is the hottest woman in /got/
>>218061649
Red is the hottest woman in /dunk/

Who is the hottest womannin /hotd/?
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What was the point of making it a 7v7 if Dunk vs. Aerion was the only fight that mattered?
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>>218062546
>see: Star Wars
Solo flopped though
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>>218062580
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>>218062581
The point is....uh....well...seven...trial of seven...seven fighters....the faith if the seven...something or other...
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Bookfags, does Maekar face any repercussions for killing his own brother/hand of the king?
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>>218062581
Aerion didn't want to fight dunk directly
first they tried to fuck the match by stealing one of dunks side at the last moment
Maekar also tried to come and help him but was stopped
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>>218062581
it's much better for the accuser because it's harder for the defendant to find 6 people rather than 1
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>>218062700
he gets called names
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>>218062581
Aerion expected Dunk to not find 6 other contestants and to win by default without risking his neck.
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>>218062700
Yeah he knew no peace while he was alive
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>>218062700
yeah he gets to be king it's very difficult for him.
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>>218061390
There WILL be a lesbian threesome featuring Mysaria, Rhaenyra, and Alicent. It WILL happen.
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>>218062700
yeah he gets a cool nickname
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>>218062700
No, he is ... le sad
That's it. His descendants rule Westeros until Joffrey becomes King.
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>>218062701
>>218062581
anon is clearly asking why everyone was retarded and let a bunch of people die avoidably.

anyway the answer is bad writing.
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>>218062545
>me when I've typed out a long, in-depth response to anon's lore question but I see someone linking the new thread.
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>>218062439
>Remember when Dunk entered the lists as The Gallows Knight

He was using a shield from House Trant of the Stormlands.

Dunno if that's supposed to have some kinda underlying meaning?
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>>218062789
Seven..the faith of the seven...seven champions....against seven more....whatever side still stands...
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>>218062826
a fucking lobster
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Fact: Maegor the Cruel lost his trial by seven, but he was revived by Blood Magic.
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>>218062240
If you want the unironic answer it's because writers can't ever get their own IPs approved so they have to use an adaptation of an established IP and trojan horse the story they want to tell in it.

There's another famous author who said people got the rights to one of his books, a story about a woman trapped in a jail cell, because the whole thing was his own personal challenge of could he write a story that takes place in a single room. The screenplay was a globetrotting adventure with some similar names to the book. He asked the screenwriter why he did it and he basically confessed "this is the story I want to write, but no one will approve it without me using an established IP"
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>>218062580
>Melisandre is the hottest woman in /got/
FACT
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>>218061390
That tagline doesn’t even make sense. Pure hack writing. “From fire comes darkness.” HOTD is clearly a DEI infected catastrophe.
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>>218062245
No way they'll reveal anything about Lyana or the mystery knight. And if they do it'll be their own gay fan fiction.
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>>218061701
Desert Dany was best Dany
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>>218062824
>whatever side still stands...
that isn't what happened though. Aerion could just end it whenever he wanted. which means Baelor and Maekar collaborated in letting it happen by not slapping him around until he dropped the charges once it became clear he just called it to try to game the system.
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>>218062826
Is that bigfoot wearing chainmail on the umber coat of arms?
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>>218061748
Maybe he should fucking write his fucking books if he doesn't want others to ruin his stories and taint his legacy.
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>>218062843
>There's another famous author who said people got the rights to one of his books, a story about a woman trapped in a jail cell, because the whole thing was his own personal challenge of could he write a story that takes place in a single room. The screenplay was a globetrotting adventure with some similar names to the book. He asked the screenwriter why he did it and he basically confessed "this is the story I want to write, but no one will approve it without me using an established IP"

that's legally actionable though. Stephen King sued when Lawnmower Man bore no resemblance to his short story.
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>>218062798
>house tran(t)
>sigil is a hanged man
What did George mean by this?
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I have two questions about the trial and joust
What were Steffon and Raymuns goals? Are they trying o actually kill each other? Steffon was always a vastly better fighter. Is Steffon actually not all that and when mud and armor are involved, he's actually just all bark? Or is Raymun secretly insanely good
Also, if they all have war spears, what are Maekar and Baelor doing? Are they both intending to drive the deadly lance into each other or what? How do they even get dehorsed without fucking dying from a lance through the gut
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>>218062789
its in their religion you dumb fuck
Aerion wanted dunk to die, Dunk was prepared for a duel and if Aerion cucked out of that and instead made someone else fight it, he would have looked like a total bitch
so he made it 7v7 to try to simply get dunk to lose by forfeiture but it also allowed him to start on horseback if it came to it (instead of on the ground as 1v1)
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>>218062903
The play was approved by Gurm
>Duncan’s masterful script honours the world completely, and I am so excited for both fans of the series, and perhaps people who have never picked up one of my books, to experience this new story in a theatre.
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>>218062927
It's a chained giant, but giants in ASOIAF are hairy
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>>218061843
Definitely when the average entry is
>Saved the king from a choking on a walnut
>Got his dick chopped off for fucking whores
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>>218062700
It's a combat ritual decided by the gods. It's not murder or assassination. Even if Maekar meant to kill his brother, he'd be allowed because Baelor willingly entered the trial knowing how it might end.
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Dunk was the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard and probably had big handwriting. What could be POSSIBLY have done during his tenure as a Kingsguard that justified four pages? Unless they added shit he did as a Hedge Knight, which shouldn't count IMO.
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>>218062915
did you not watch the scene when it happened?
"its his right" and so on
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>>218063027
He's the main character of basically all of asoiaf
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>>218062959
only Maekar's side had war spears because reasons. so only knights on Dunc's side die. no, it doesn't make any sense why the trial would go ahead as planned and everyone would just accept this, this way there is a body count so the situation feels dramatic.

as someone said upthread, the trial was technically supposed to go ahead until "only one side stands" - yet the story just ignores that and let's Aerion end it. but if Aerion can end it, that means Baelor and Maekar could have prevent it from happening by threatening him once it became clear Duncan was going to make the numbers.

the real reason for all the logic holes is that GRRM just wrote THK during a break from ASoIaF and didn't really think very hard about the character's motivations. he thought a 7v7 sounded cool and just kind of forget about how ASoIaF tries to be sociologically realistic.
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>>218063027
For starters he slayed Daemon Blackfyre the 3rd in single combat
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Another thing Baelor could have done was order the two Kingsguard to go back to King's Landing. then Aerion doesn't have 7 and auto-loses. he's the crown prince so he outranks his brother but instead he just gets 2 other knights killed and commits suicide.

anyone?
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>>218063075
And made the laughing storm yield basically putting down another rebellion
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YOU RAPED HER

YOUR MURDERED HER

YOU KEELED HER CHEELDREN
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>>218063063
>as someone said upthread, the trial was technically supposed to go ahead until "only one side stands"
No, that's not true. The trial ends if the accused or accuser are slain or yield/withdraw, it is said in the novella.
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Post the reviews Preston before I shit myself
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>>218063048
I can tell you're a PR shill because no real longterm fan of the series would be this uninterested in admitting the existence of plot holes.
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>>218061830
As much as I hate her, and trust I do (I’m the what if rhaenys poster), Mysaria wins that title for ALL shows so far.
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>>218063147
>yeah its not the books
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>>218063131
All the recast Mountains were such downgrades
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>>218063140
so Maekar has his side use war lances because he wants to kill a bunch of randos and risk his brother's life? okay got it.
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>Saved the future rapist, Rhaegar, eventually causing the doom of House Targaryean
Well done, Dunk.
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>>218062580
>Who is the hottest womannin /hotd/?
The bug queen
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>>218063131
>What a hero for Dorne, we must honor him by killing his family
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>>218063131
>you graped her
>you unalived her
>you late-aborted her children
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>dunk and egg are the two directly responsible for the end of the Targs
Holy based
Holy fucking based
Egg kills all the Targs, and Dunk forced fate in that direction
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>>218063204
>The Sands Snakes just, eh, forgot that the Martells were all related
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>>218062353
The center of gravity in a proper sword is much closer to the hilt than that of a warhammer, where the center of gravity is at the end. When GRRM says “lift” he probably means wield. Even if both weapons were 50 lbs, 50 lbs 1 foot from your hand is 50 lbft of torque. 50 lbs at 2 feet is 100 lbft of torque.
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So the bee dude and the one without leg die at the beginning and Daeron fell like faggit too, so basically it was a 5 vs 6
Dunk vs Aerion
Raymundo vs Steffon
Baelor vs Maekar
And then the dude without eye and Lyonel vs 3 kingsguards, man, kingsguards are fucking lame.
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>>218063216
our guy knew how to choose his friends wisely, fuck the targ shits.
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>>218062961
https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Trial_by_combat
>When a person is accused of a crime, especially when he or she is highborn, that person cannot be denied a trial where the highest ranking lord or lords sit in judgement.[2] At any point before or during a trial, one can request a trial by combat, in which the accuser and accused ask the gods to decide the issue between them.[1] Knights, no matter their status of birth, cannot be denied a trial by combat.[1] Highborn women accused of a crime can request a trial by battle as well, although a champion will fight in their stead.[3] Men who are no warriors can request a champion to fight for them as well.[2] The trial by combat ends when the accuser yields and withdraws the accusations,[1] or when one of the fighters dies.

or I guess Aerion could not have made someone else fight anyway
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>>218063202
I don’t even know what bug that is, a tick?
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>>218063202
she's so cute and awkward. too bad the show sucks
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>>218063230
It was a 5v5
Willem Wylde was knocked unconscious as well
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>>218063027
>Unless they added shit he did as a Hedge Knight, which shouldn't count IMO.
Barristan and Jaime had shit they did before becoming KG so Dunc is definitely allowed to add all his adventures.
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>>218062826
It's all coming together.
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>>218062789
>everyone was retarded
Theyre bound by rules. The instant they stop obeying those rules is when the peasantry starts questioning whether they need to follow the rules either. Culture starts at the top. Aerion is the only retard.
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>>218063245
>Highborn women accused of a crime can request a trial by battle as well, although a champion will fight in their stead.[3]
cringe
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>>218063257
Jobbed like the nepo faggot he is
Ser FIREBALL would have made quick work of Lyonel if he was there
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Imagine the bug queen Prophesying her pregnancy while you are inside her
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>>218062843
>faggot screenwriter wants to make a faggot movie. No one wants to fund said faggot story. Has to steal someone else's work so they can insert their faggot story

Interesting.
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>>218063293
*gets 360 no scoped*
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>>218062837
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>Cersei and Jaime? Secret Targaryeans
>Tyrion? Secretly a Targaryean.
>Brienne? A descendant of Duncan the Tall and a Targaryean princes (secretly)
>Jon Snow? Secretly a Targaryean
>Young Griff? Secretly a Targaryean, but maybe also secretly a Blackfyre (Targaryean branch house, legitimized by Aegon the Unworthy so actually Targaryean).
>Orys Baratheon? Rumoured to be Ageon's bastard brother, aka a Targaryean, making all Baratheons secretly Targaryean.
>Egg? Shaves his head to hid his identity, as it turns out he's a secret Targaryean.
Amazing.
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>>218062029
zero Targ blood
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>>218063167
Nobody on the Aerion side was going to use their lance lethally against Baelor. The three kings guard aren’t even allowed to hurt him at all.

But they did want to kill (or immediately disable) as many on Dunks side as possible, because the longer the fight goes on the greater the risk to the Targs.
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>>218061390
Will they do the kino thing and have the throne murder her? Assuming that they gotta change how she dies in some capacity.
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>>218062029
>Old with no immediate heir
It was a miracle he lasted as long as he did. Anyway, he basically was King and ruled for Robert. All of the issues in the main series are down to him, not Robert.
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>>218062353
Valyrian steel doesn't weigh that much.
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>>218063325
>Rumoured to be Ageon's bastard brother,
everyone knew Orys is his bastard brother
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>>218063343
She’s supposed to get fat first
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Here's your Targaryen gf, bro
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With Georges love for Seven, 7 books, 7 gods, kingdoms, etc (he has in interviews said he thinks seven regarding to asoiaf is nice, because how it's all based on sevens)
Anyways, I'd like to imagine this love of seven and what we've seen of both Trial of Sevens, is that the gods do seemingly directly intervene in some way or another with the rightful justice
Do you guys think, assuming this, that Baelor dies as Aerions punishment for doing this whole stupid thing, or was it his dishonor with the kingsguard, and Robin Rhysling as the Warrior made the boss call to have Baelor die?
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>>218063316
Nothing more dishonorable than shooting a proper and honest soldier in the middle of his drink instead of facing him in the field
An act fitting a coward such as Faggotraven
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>>218063245
>>218062961
>literally any knight on either side could have thrown the trial for the other by just changing their minds and announcing they wouldn't fight at the last moment.

seems like a brilliant system, George is a literary genius.
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>>218063404
hot
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>>218063408
fuck around and find out
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>>218063265
Westeros seems kinda small innit
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>>218063367
neither does the wooden shaft of a warhammer.
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>>218063291
do you expect women to actually fight in such trial?
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>>218063439
The gods look favourably on foxy boxing
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>>218063341
it's a shame neither Maekar nor Baelor cared about the risk to the Targs. they could have easily prevented the fight from happening at all haha

Baelor could have also ordered the Kingsguard not to fight at the last moment, preventing Aerion from having the numbers. but then the plot wouldn't have worked.
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Cute and canon!
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>>218063450
>man accuses woman of stealing so that he can beat the shit out of her
based
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>>218063376
Fat? Is that how you speak to your queen?
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>>218061800
>It's to show that women shouldn't be in power, this is consistent across ASOIAF. Mad Queen Cersei, Mad Queen Dany, Lady Stoneheart / Mad Cat starting the war of the Five Kings, Jaeaherys' wife leaving him for having the foresight to understand this, Aegon's sister tearing their family apart because she wants her son to rule, Lysa losing the War of the Five Kings for her family (the Tullys) because she is addicted to cock, Rohanne Webber being abstinent and petty because the dick she logned for the most was denied to her, the She-Wolves of Winterfell (probably) tearing eachother apart over who controls the North, Dorne being a third world shithole (woman rule there) and the mad quest for revenge of the zesty peadophile Oberon and his daughters, etc
Let's ignore how males are responsible for just as much if not more dumb shit, shall we? Also Catelyn didn't start the war, Tywin did.
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>>218063408
Why is that knight wearing a bra?
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>>218063230
The "issue" is that of the 14 people there, like 11 of them could not care less what happens to Aerion. Only Maekar, Aerion and Baelor would not like Aerion to be killed or beaten and broken.
So you get this awkward scenario where outside of the first charges with deadly lances, no one is really trying to kill or be killed. All the Kingsguard either yield, or get stuck in a 2v1 against Rhysling, who is clearly better than the because how the FUCK would 2 kingsguard not be able to take him down. Granted, he might literally be the embodiment of a god, who is there to judge the fight but still.
No one is fighting to the death. MAYBE the fossoways could get carried away but otherwise it's really just Dunk v Aerion. It's more unfortunate than anything really that the Humfreys die. But Hardyng essentially resigned himself to death at least by joining this with a broken leg.
The point being, is that outside of Dunk and Aerion, everyone else is more or less "play fighting" or more specifically, trying not to be killed. This is also why we pretty much never see other fighting than the Dunk 1v1
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>>218063427
According to George it's the size of South America but scale has never been his forte
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Any good RPG games with ASOIAF vibes?
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>Criston Cole in hell watching the Kingsguard get away with murdering another Beesbury
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>>218063462
>Risk to the targs
The only 3 that got pulled in were Maekor, Baelor, and Daemon (or whatever his name is, the shitter brother). Aerion was willing to fight, and at a minimum was going to have to fight. Daemon also had to be willing, given his accusation.

Maekor was obviously going to fight alongside his son, and Baelor only joined because Aerion stole the one Fossoway.

Baelor doesn’t have unilateral power over the Kingsgaurd. If Aerion intended to fight, their duty was to defend him from harm, even if it was against Baelors wishes.
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>>218063123
Unless Baelor specifically discusses the problem with his son, Valarr, you are introducing the possibility Aerion asks Valarr to fight for him. Without Baelor forbidding Valarr for it, Valarr would agree to Aerion therefore giving Aerion 1 knight while denying Baelor his son's armor to fight for Dunk. Aerion can find another knight at this tourney. Baelor and Egg would have to ask a Reachman who didn't fight for the Blackfyres. Baelor would have to rent armor that might be a better fit and actually save his life.

>>218063409
Posts like this are why were live in a low trust society. You agree to fight for a Trial of the Seven then flake out before it starts, everyone will know you're a coward and unreliable. You'll be kicked off your land and possibly stripped of your knighthood, because you broke your vows twice in 1 action. At least have the decency to act like a soccer player once the trial starts, that's what Daeron did.
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>>218063527
A Song of Ice and Fire Roleplay Game (Tabletop), back in that day people used to run ASOIAF 'Quests' (like a forum game) on /tg/ and /qst/ as well. They're, with no doubt, the best mediums for ASOIAF.
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>>218061606
There were so many newly created indian bots spamming the comment section on Drinker's video.
It seems youtube went down to allow some new progreamming to make it easier for this breed of indian bots to fuck up the comment sections even more.
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>>218063427
no it has the opposite problem
as a yank GRRM doesn't really understand continental scale because he's used to flying between populated areas.
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>>218063489
>men in control 95% of the time
>responsible for 50% of the dumb shit
>women in control 5% of the time
>responsible for 50% of the dumb shit
hmmmmmmm
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>>218063167
Maekar and his side use war lances because it's a ritualized fight to the death ordained by the gods, or so they believe. The other side uses tourney lances only because that gives them better reach, so if they're more skiled theoretically they can unhorse the opponent before the opponent's lance can touch them. And yes, Maekar was ready to kill most of the opposition other than Baelor. Why wouldn't he?
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>>218063543
*looking down from Seven Heavens
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>>218063404
Yummers.
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>>218063527
I hear Kingdom Come is similar to Dunk where you're just a guy but everyone loves you because you're really nice and helpful and honorable. But I've not played myself, just going off what I heard.
Like the other anon said, Dungeons and Dragons or similar Tabletop stuff is the closest you're going to get probably.
It's tough because Asoiaf blends medieval realism with a dab of magic and wonder but not too much but just enough to pull you in and keep you guessing.
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>>218063591
oathbreakers burn in the seven hells forever
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The only good targ really is a dead one, huh.
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>>218062843
>>218062949
I have no doubt that in the fine print they have it so writers can't sue the showrunners for vastly changing their story
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>>218061916
God forbid a man is responsible for his own fuckups, amirite.
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>>218063569
>no it has the opposite problem
I don't get it. Are you saying it should have a larger population?
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>>218062021
Dayne and Hightowers have a common origin. They’re neighbors, both claim to be there before first men and both have Valyrian hair color. The most famous Dayne is Arthur, and the first Hightower was Uthor who is king Arthur’s father in the legend
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>>218063603
The best part of that game is a quest where you pretend to be a monk and spend your days copying manuscripts and brewing medicine. Someone needs to make that into a full game.
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>>218063637
GRRM just gave up all creative control because he’s a fat lazy fuck and can’t be arsed to even give them a rigid outline
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>>218063543
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>>218063555
>Baelor doesn’t have unilateral power over the Kingsgaurd

he's the crown prince. there is only a risk to his family if the fight happens so by refusing his orders the Kingsguard would be endangering Maekar and the drunk one and violating their vows.

stop defending the contrived writing and type out the sentence FINISH THE BOOKS FAT MAN BEFORE YOU DIE OF FAT
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>>218063151
you are making up plotholes where there are none
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>>218063561
actually people are more likely to mindlessly follow protocol and kill themselves in stupid ways in real low-trust societies like Russia.

in the West we have lateral thinking and the ability to try to find descalatory solutions to problems.
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>>218063404
oh shit was dany fireproof because she was filled with asbestos?
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>>218063660
Has George managed to have one original thought in this goddamn series?
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>>218061774
Pre first men weaterosi were fire magickers and probably worshipped rhollor
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>>218063677
I never even read the books and think GRRM is a big lazy fatty.

But if Baelor can’t keep Aerion from requesting a trial by 7, he also can’t keep Aerion from completing the trial on a technicality, like ordering the Kingsgaurd to withdraw at the last second. It’d be the same as deciding the outcome, which he is explicitly not allowed to do.

The trial was as much about PR with the peasantry as much as it was about being a trial.
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Could peak Dunk, whenever that is in his life, possibly beat the Mountain in 1 on 1 combat?
Assume both are fully armored, Dunk has a sword and shield and Mountain has his two hander
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>>218063645
Even the evil Roose Bolton raised a good son (Domeric), while the single mother he left Ramsay with raised ... Ramsay. Even Walder Frey's older sons are fine by Weteros standards, it's his younger sons and grandsons (raised by their mothers as he is old as fuck) who are shitters. Bad sons in Westeros are because of single mothers.
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>>218063569
Only 500k in King's Landing is weird, I get it's supposed to be a medieval setting and the population was not living in the big cities but come on.
>>218063657
It definetly should have a larger population. That's too much land for only 40 million people and there are lords fighting for it
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>>218063753
Mountain is strong. But he is not on Dunk or Bobby B level
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>>218061473
>Power is power
What a shit line. Another of D&D's "profound" lines that don't mean anything. Can't believe people ate that shit up.
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>>218063753
7ft tall peak ability book Dunk? Maybe. I doubt the Mountain has ever had to actually face anyone at that size and skill level before. He’s constantly high from being in pain, and gets gassed quickly- basically just relying on smashing his opponents in single blows. Anybody able to actually enter a sword fight with him would put him at a disadvantage.
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>>218063743
>I never even read the books
I know that anon you're obviously some kind of astroturfer trying to defend the IP from negative word of mouth or some bullshit. the 2020+ internet is fucking dumb.

>PR with the peasantry

ah yes the peasants who all turned up at dawn to watch a trial they couldn't have found out about and couldn't see because of the fog.

if he'd cared about PR he would have forced Aerion to drop the charges and pardonned Dunc publicly but then again the plot wouldn't work so fuck it.
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>>218063753
No. Dunk is a shitty fighter who relies on his weight and height. Gregor is an actual fighter who goes against the slow big warrior trope by being fast and strong
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>>218063718
No he wanted to do a War of the Roses series but then a friend suggested he put dragons in it.
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>>218063753
Absolutely
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>>218063792
>basically just relying on smashing his opponents in single blows. Anybody able to actually enter a sword fight with him would put him at a disadvantage.
>>218063813
>Gregor is an actual fighter who goes against the slow big warrior trope by being fast and strong
WHICH IS IT
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>>218063657
Yes. George doesn’t understand scale. He discussed once that he thought the show had made the Wall comically big then had an ‘Ah fuck’ moment when they said it was the size he had described in the books.
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>>218063755
How is that relevant to you trying to whitewash Rhaegar of all people?
>Bad sons in Westeros are because of single mothers
Sure, because they singlehandedly raised them, right? No maesters or knights or uncles, just evil mothers. And a man can't just be a cunt, or ambitious, or ruthless.
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>>218063757
500k is pretty much the max size for a big city pre-18th century. the typical size for a city was actually 20k because that's what you could feed with a 10 mile radius of farms. larger cities had to be on navigable rivers or the coast so they could be fed with grain by boat.
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>>218063569
Shitty infographic, but the continent size is something nobody wants to agree on. Westeros is big enough that any map depiction runs afoul of globe projection. The problem with deciding a proper projection is GRRM never defined the southern hemisphere. We have no idea where the equator is for Planetos. Is Dorne at the 30th parallel, or the 20th parallel? Westeros could actually be as small as Brazil, which is still massive compared to Britain. The problems you and other anons discuss get worse if you insist Westeros is as large as South America. GRRM has claimed South America as the size of Westeros, but we already know GRRM has a terrible sense of scale. So we must ignore his statement about the size of Westeros, he is clearly wrong.
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>>218063718
George is like a great producer using the best samples to make the sickest beats
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>>218063795
>astroturfed
I’m just not a retard like you, making up plot holes. I don’t care about the IP being “considered good” I just like the show you schizo.

>turned up at dawn
Theyre all camped around with jousting happening all day. A single person showing up early means they can just let their friends know, who let their friends know, and so on. It’s also absurd to think there wouldn’t be any kind of announcement from Lord Ashford or the Game Master.

>forced him to drop the charges
He literally cannot, because it would have been breaking the law. Aerion has rights.
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>>218063757
>It definetly should have a larger population. That's too much land for only 40 million people and there are lords fighting for it
No. Don't forget that they regularly have multi-year mini ice ages. The largest part of the continent, the North, can only maintain a small population because of that.

Also you should not compare a medieval country to a modern one when it comes to the population they can support. Agriculture, distribution and food storage have come a very long way.
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Alicent, Viserys and their minions trying to figure out what to do about the stepstones now that Daemon has gotten bored and left them holding the bag is pretty funny
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>>218063657
according to Google the population of China hit 40 million in 100 BC, and medieval Europe had more advanced agricultural tech and a population of 60 million by like 1200.

GRRM really isn't that detail-orientated. it wouldn't be a big deal if he'd finished the fucking books but he hasn't so we're stuck talking about his mistakes.
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>>218063846
Me
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>>218063606
Even Jaime?
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>>218063860
didn't he say that the planet was larger than Earth at some point, or "could be".

all discussions of this should remove the benefit of the doubt from him at the start though. we're trying to figure out the most plausible option from what a very unreliable source has given us.
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>>218063767
Mountain is stronger than both of them, he's freakishly huge
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>>218063891
you don't like to think what you would have done in a fictional character's shoes? doesn't sound like you like the show that much.
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>>218062151
>>218062301
So you telling me that Ned and Robert were compensating for something?
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>>218063846
Jaime talks about his strength, i don’t recall anyone talking about his speed or agility. Oberyn seems to dance around him pretty easily
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>>218063856
I see that makes sense
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>>218063846
He got his shit pushed in by Oberyn who’s a little twink.
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>>218063846
>>218063813
its fucked because a fighter that is 7' or taller with actual propotionate muscle mass (like both Dunc and Gregor) is simply not going to be weighed down by plate armour as much as it doesn't weigh as much relative to his overall size.

so Dunc actually should have actually been faster than average height twink Aerion especially has he also seemed to be wearing less armour.
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>>218063813
Gregor isn't fast compared to proper swordsmen, he just doesn't fit into the "slow lumbering brute that moves in slow motion" fantasy people have about big guys. Actual swordsmen are faster and more agile, though in a real battle Gregor's strength and size is more important.
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>>218063846
>"You raped her." Prince Oberyn parried a savage cut with his spearhead. "You murdered her." He sent the spearpoint at Clegane's eyes, so fast the huge man flinched back. "You killed her children." "The spear flickered sideways and down, scraping against the Mountain's breastplate. "You raped her. You murdered her. You killed her children." The spear was two feet longer than Ser Gregor's sword, more than enough to keep him at an awkward distance. He hacked at the shaft whenever Oberyn lunged at him, trying to lop off the spearhead, but he might as well have been trying to hack the wings off a fly. "You raped her. You murdered her. You killed her children."
>"Be quiet." Ser Gregor seemed to be moving a little slower, and his greatsword no longer rose quite so high as it had when the contest began. "Shut your bloody mouth."
>"You raped her," the prince said, moving to the right.
>"Enough!" Ser Gregor took two long strides and brought his sword down at Oberyn's head, but the Dornishman backstepped once more. "You murdered her," he said.
>"SHUT UP!" Gregor charged headlong, right at the point of the spear, which slammed into his right breast then slid aside with a hideous steel shriek. Suddenly the Mountain was close enough to strike, his huge sword flashing in a steel blur. The crowd was screaming as well. Oberyn slipped the first blow and let go of the spear, useless now that Ser Gregor was inside it. The second cut the Dornishman caught on his shield. Metal met metal with an ear-splitting clang, sending the Red Viper reeling. Ser Gregor followed, bellowing. He doesn't use words, he just roars like an animal, Tyrion thought. Oberyn's retreat became a headlong backward flight mere inches ahead of the greatsword as it slashed at his chest, his arms, his head
Basically you can try and tire him out but he will fuck you up real quickly if you slip up.
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>>218063949
I would have followed the law, which states Aerion had right to request a trial of 7.
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>>218063569
what a retarded map, comparing modern populations to medieval populations

>European population in the Middle Ages (approx. 500–1500 AD) fluctuated from lows of 30-40 million to roughly 80-100 million at its medieval peak around 1300, mostly rural and agrarian. Today, the European population is roughly 740-750 million, which is nearly 8-10 times higher, vastly more urbanized, and facing an aging demographic crisis
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>>218063992
it's a made-up distinction anyway, not that GRRM necessarily thought about that.

but if everyone is fighting in 40-50kg of plate armour, the fastest and most agile fighter is also going to be the strongest, with basically no exceptions.
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Kinda neat they cast a real amputee for that scene.
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>>218064014
swordsman <> swordsmen in full plate.

the books are actually very solid about this, as they specify that Bronn and Oberon both wear minimal armour to fight their trials. but in this trial the characters are all wearing equivalent full plate as its a mounted joust.

if anything Aerion seems to have more+heavier armour while being a smaller weaker man. yet because this is a hacky TV show he fights like he's unencumbered.
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>>218064075
WOKE casting strikes again. They should have casted a proper white man with 4 powerful legs.

(I agree anon)
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>>218064075
Not like they can amputate an actor just for a scene
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>>218064075
Good of them, must be hard for him getting roles and he did a good job.
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>>218063860
The travel times make the supposed map size ridiculous.
It took Robb 3 months to get from Winterfell to Riverun.
Took Robert's procession 12 days just to cross the Neck.
People always bitch about people teleporting in the later seasons of GOT but how else were they supposed to do it.
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>>218064075
They even got a real horse.
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>>218064122
>how else were they supposed to do it.
I just assumed that the story would climax in 2-3 places with different POVs as Westeros faced different related threats from different directions.

if you think about it, all the characters travelling to Winterfel to defend a castle they couldn't feed made no sense. I hope that isn't/wasn't GRRM's plan.
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>>218064026
>The Dornishman flung away his ruined shield, grasped the spear in both hands, and sauntered away. Behind him the Mountain let out a groan, and pushed himself onto an elbow. Oberyn whirled cat-quick, and ran at his fallen foe. "EEEEELLLLLLIIIIIAAAAA!" he screamed, as he drove the spear down with the whole weight of his body behind it. The crack of the ashwood shaft snapping was almost as sweet a sound as Cersei's wail of fury, and for an instant Oberyn had wings. The snake has vaulted over the Mountain.
Any protracted fight scene George writes inevitably turns into anime.
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>>218064122
army movement vs single travelers nigga
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>>218064083
>yet because this is a hacky TV show he fights like he's unencumbered.
i don't agree. he fights unencumbered at first because he's spending all his stamina points but after a while he gets visibly gassed and barely moves compared to before. after dunk gets up, aerion is exhausted and it's because trying to be fast in that armor is exhausting
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>>218064075
a frey is worth half wages anyways
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>>218064044
it's actually comparing GRRM's statements to modern population densities.

the point is that with only 40 million people Westeros is barely even farmed or settled. it would have to be mostly trackless wilderness with farmland only near the coast and the largest navigable rivers.
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So Ser Humfrey Beesbury, Ser Humfrey Hardyng and Prince Baelor Targaryen all died from the trial, but Hardyng died from his wounds after, how long after?
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>>218064075
I'm ok with that, if this was HotD they would have made him ride dragons.
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>>218064262
pretty sure an amputee would be happy to have a dragon, thank you very much. be better than a wheelchair.
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>Arieon getting a trillion hits on Dunk in a second, when in reality Dunk would pick him up and knock him out flat.
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>>218062362
Funnily enough I saw this clip randomly on YouTube when I was scrolling and it is literally the only reason I even knew that the Dunk and Egg show had fucking come out.
Glad I saw it because the show is pure unfiltered fucking kino
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>>218064199
Can't forget Gregor basically punching through I̶n̶i̶g̶o̶ ̶M̶o̶n̶t̶o̶y̶a̶ Oberyn's head.
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>>218062536
3 quarters dornish
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>>218064324
Dunc actually regenerates. that's how he was able to walk after a mounted knight for dozens of miles with a giant hole in his leg.
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>>218064324
all his hits were 0.1 damage.
the stabbyroo never properly pierced the chain, the spear in the beginning was the one that did some proper damage
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>>218064324
Dunk still had the slowed and stunned status effects from all the blows to the head.
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>>218064075
people hated the flashback scene. I actually enjoyed it. Have I gone soft? granted I would prefer the show to be an hour long for more battle
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>>218064324
>That's Corvo Attano!
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>>218064450
the flashback wasnt the problem
its placing and timing is what was horrible
It ruined the momentum of the previous episode
It took too much time in an already short episode
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>>218064450
I thought it was fine, I think it should have just not been cut in-between the trial, it went on too long too.
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>>218064450
I liked the Ser Arlan stuff. The Rafe stuff should have happened in an earlier episode, and the end of episode 4 should have been pushed into episode 5 to take its minutes.
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>>218064450
it was too long
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>>218064473
Shall we gather for whiskey and cigars tonight?
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>>218064473
kek
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>>218061506
It was till death or someone yields. I didn't hear no horn.
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>>218061506
If Dunk was supposed to lose, the mother wouldnt have embraced him and gave him a second wind
Remember its a trial to determine the innocence, and Dunk was innocent
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I wanna hear schizo theories about the sins that caused the 7 to take the lives of beesbury, hardyng and baelor.
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>>218064585
dunk wasn't innocent he assaulted a prince that was punishing a dissident traitor
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>>218061422
Our is the honey!
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>>218064601
Beesbury bee punned too close to the sun.
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>>218064619
The Gods seem to disagree bucko
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>>218064255
A day or two maybe. The guy's leg was already fucked.
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>>218064619
He literally withdrew his accusation and lost before the gods, little bro. This narrative will not stand.
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>>218064601
every beesbury death marks the beginning decline of targaryen standing for that era
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>>218062168
t. does not understand the themes. It's not about their martial prowess, it's how shit and amoral they are. Well, half of them. Meryn and Boros beat up a little girl on their twat king's twat orders, Loras is an impulsive fag with no sense of justice. A man like Sandor being allowed to join the Kingsguard and Jaime made a Lord Commander through pure nepotism. The institution is not what it was.
>Arys is actually a shitty Knight who snames them
He's a decent guy in comparison. Well, before he got drunk off of dornish pussy and dragged Myrcella into half-baked treasonous plot and got himself killed.
>The current Kingsguard is fucking LEGENDARY compared to the shitters of old
You're fucking joking right.
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>>218064619
they cute
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>>218064653
The bees were always the greatest and most loyal of the dragons' friends.
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>>218064638
>>218064643
the gods aren't real
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>>218064450
Went on too long for what is such a short episode to begin with and it disrupted the flow. Even if you were to place the flashback more in the middle of the fight or keep going back and forth between the flashback and the fight, the flashback would have disrupted the flow whatever way you went about doing it. If they were wedded to the idea of a flashback in this episode then it could have kept both the points with the girl and Arlan in a more a streamlined form and conveyed the points it wanted to. The stuff with the girl would have made more sense to have included before the puppeteer got attacked or in the episode afterwards when Dunk is in jail.
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>>218064653
You could say that they're the bee in the Valyrian fire mines
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>>218064679
>he unironically thinks that
The seven are real
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>>218064669
>most loyal of the dragons' friends.
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>>218064585
>Hey, targshit!
>i didn't hear no bell!
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>>218064665
>Meryn and Boros beat up a little girl on their twat king's twat orders
Jaime is a boomer who thinks his idols were the GOATs. Meanwhile every single one of them stood by while Aerys burned people alive and raped his wife. Meryn and Boros are saints compared to them
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https://x.com/ADragonDemands/status/2024219644660252723

The prediction for HotD S3 is that the general consensus will be positive because it will have a lot more action (given that the main complaint in S2 was that the final battle got cut from S2 and got pushed to episode 1 of S3) just like Seasons 5-7 of GoT getting unbridled praise for its action despite getting more and more retarded as it went on, but the bookfags will hate it because of the damage done to the story.
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>>218064679
Dunk got revived from death twice and you still doubt
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>>218064711
Within their legal framework you can't rape your wife
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>>218064714
>the main complaint in S2 was that the final battle got cut from S2 and got pushed to episode 1 of S3
Nonsense. The main complaint is the shitty writing and character development
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So did we witness Baelor’s death, or will he have a death vigil session of prophesying?
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>>218064714
>only hope is that CGI dragon sloppa will save the show
kek
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>>218064665
The White Bull literally takes Jaime to one side to say not to judge the King when he's burning people alive and when Jaime says they're supposed to protect the Queen as well he gets shut down. Three Kingsguard Knights are stopping Ned from seeing Lyanna in her final moments, after she was raped by Rhaegar and locked in a tower, for literally no reason (putting Rhaegar's son/daughter at risk btw as Lyanna is crying out from her bed of blood, already stressed to death).
>Th-they hit a little girl!
Joff never got the chance to be as bad as Aerys II, maybe if time went on he would have been but the Kingsguard never stooped as low as the previous generation. Hitting a little girl, while mean, is not as bad as burning a guy in front of his father while he's attached to a strangulation device, killing himself to try and rescue him. You got gaslit.
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>>218064714
>it will have a lot more action
Gullet will be underwhelming and the dragon fights will be the same old same old.
Just show us some Winter Wolves and Lads kino.
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>>218064744
nigga he dead dead
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>>218064743
That's the main complaint from the non-bookfag normalfag, not the main complaint of us bookfags.
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>>218064706
true dragons, yes.
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>>218064679
>the gods aren't real
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>>218064730
Jaime seems to think you can, and in fact the other Knights seem to think you can as well as the response isn't "He's his wife", but "Not from him".
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>>218064730
and burning people alive? Probably the biggest plot hole created by the supposed Jaime redemption arc is Aerys straight up violating the rules of trial by combat. In AGOT it's just said Rickard and Brandon were executed, then suddenly to make Jaime look better they were killed brutally. Aerys should have been facing a faith uprising and more lords should have defected or stayed neutral after they just watched this dude violate another lord's god given rights
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>>218064665
>Literally only Arys is actually a shitty Knight who snakes them, the other ones are all fine. What's with all the anti-Kingsguard propoganda? If they just said "you can serve until a certain age", there'd be zero issues with it. Osmund Kettleblack, Loras Tyrell, Balon Swann, Robert STRONG!? The current Kingsguard is fucking LEGENDARY compared to the shitters of old. If they cycled out Boros and Meryn (for being old, nothing personal guys) and got some young bucks in there, this would actually be the greatest Kingsguard in history.
Not the anon you are responding to and I agree with your points, but you can also throw mud at the Kingsguard before Robert under Aerys. The institution under Aerys did nothing when Aerys abused his wife, did nothing when Aerys burnt men alive - stuff Jamie and Barristan know was morally wrong of Aerys. If the argument is they have to obey the king that itself gets countered by the implication some of them were more loyal the Rhaegar than they were Aerys.
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>>218064679
if the gods aren't real who the fuck is leaking the script to random crones and Helaena Targaryen?
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>>218064199
>le righteous anger allows Oberyn to pierce a slab of steel the living tank has for an armor instead of breaking his spear and looking like a retard
George is such a hack.
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reminder that we NEED S2 to have girlbosses to own the chuds who are now starting to enjoy our show
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>>218064781
If the seven are real, why does a Targaryen heathen sits on the throne at the end of it all?
The seven lost. Deal with it.
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>>218064788
>as the response isn't "He's his wife", but "Not from him".
I took that to be that if anyone else were to rape her then yes of course they'd have to step in, she's the queen, but he's her husband. Though tbf to you could also read that as he's the king therefore if he was raping anyone else then they couldn't interfere.
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>>218064523
You've made a powerful enemy the hive will know.
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>>218064481
Yeah agree. That's why is should have been 60 minutes episode. all in all. still kino
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>5 minutes of the battle
>35 minutes of flash backs
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>>218064781
And faggots on here doubt The Seven.
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gorget expander?
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>3/7 abandon King Aerys to go fucking around in Dorne
>2/7 turn traitor and join Robert's regime (one of whom kills the King he is sworn to protect)
>1/7 keeps a paramour, betraying his oath (and all the other Kingsguard kept it secret)
>1/7 said it was fine that Aerys was raping and abusing Rhaella
>The other two did literally nothing of note
Amazing Kingsguard. Maybe the worst in history. Jaime just has major rose tinted glasses. Btw, Arthur's main feat is either 1) being fought to a standstill by some random bandit Knight until that Knight's sword breaks, and winning only because you had a magic sword or 2) toying with and torturing someone with your magic sword until their sword breaks. He was an evil fuck.
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>>218064793
Well he faced an immediate rebellion in part for that action so it's not like he got away with it
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>>218064681
I agree. should have been a longer episode. but in the end. thinking of what has happened to him woke his ass up.I also hate how short the episodes are. I think they did well for the timing. it is what it is. beats some lady riding a dragon
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>>218064711
>>218064755
>>218064797
And you think current kingsguard wouldn't allow Aerys to go through with his fucked up bullshit?We can judge the kingsguard of old for their hypocrisy sure, but the fact still stands that the institution fell off.
>Th-they hit a little girl!
They beat her quite extensively. They stripped and shamed her in front of the whole court. They'd do worse if ordered.
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>>218064901
>. Btw, Arthur's main feat is
Having two swords?
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>>218064916
OH N-
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>>218064901
It was probably the best warrior lineup in kingsguard history, but they were all retarded
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>>218064819
The same girl boss volvel that proposes to Dunc twice?
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>>218064781
Great shit.
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>>218064907
the only ones who rebelled were those directly impacted, half the Crownlands and Reach should have at least demanded Aerys be removed. Instead they fight to the death for a guy who will burn them alive just as easily as he did Rickard Stark. It's a plot hole created because GRRM wanted to redeem Jaime, so he had the make Aerys even more insane and make the Kingsguard Ned praised as honorable suddenly become scumbags so Jaime looks better
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Seven are real, but all the other gods are servants of the seven.
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>>218064912
>And you think current kingsguard wouldn't allow Aerys to go through with his fucked up bullshit?
Yeah, I think they probably would. The point of the post was that the Kingsguard of today are just as good, if not better, than the Kingsguard of the past. That being said, Arys actually protests to hitting Sansa to Joffrey, which is more than literally any of the Aerys Kingsguard ever did, so maybe he'd do something heroic and Preston, of his own volition, dies trying to rescue the High Septon so he has more heroism in him that the oldguard.
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>>218064972
Maybe he had political hostages? Makes sense with Mace being a lazybones and perhaps the information didn't spread down to the lower nobility in time before the rebellion has kicked off and blood has been spilled
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>>218064972
>All the Reachlords fight for Aerys because lehonor and muh oath to the crown
>They all crown a guy who is 4th in the line of succession less than 20 years later for no other reason than to satisfy Mace's ego
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>>218065027
Maybe they thought Aerys' regime was strong and they'd the most rewards, cowed by Duskendale
While Roberts' regime was weak and broke, Stannis wasn't offering them anything while Renly would have promoted their interests
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>>218064781
>"Hey Aerion, I didn't hear no bell"



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