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chud queen edition
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>>218084015
So, who was the worst Tardaryen ultimately?
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>>218084015
The tranny is getting fat?
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>>218084044
The tranny did a tyranny
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>>218084015
Wont forget Monke
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I only care for scenes with Aegon
he's the only good actor and character in hotd
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>>218082663
>and all the "House Stark is 8000 years old!" bullshit is just a lie made up by those in power
the Starks ruling that long is backed up by the Weirwood net archived footage. Cope and seethe
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>battle between 14 knights
>spend 2/3 of the episode on a flashback
>1/2 of that remaining 1/3 is spent on chit chat
Yeah, i'm thinking it sucked.
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>>218084064
I miss her.
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>potential For honor and Dunk crossover hints
oh boy...
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>>218084015
is she gonna chud out?
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>>218084041
Aegon V
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>Rhaenyra still whitewashed AND stupiwashed (the whole taxes raised behind her back , putting Alicent above all her council because shes horny)
>Mysarya betraying her because she went full femcel mode over Rhaenyra prefering Alicent
>Daeron being little more that a plot device (they clearly wanted to cut him but they couldnt)
>Daemon STILL rallying the Riverlords and
>Aemond dropping the war to focus on the goddamn dagger sidequest and hints that the fucking Aemond Whent schizo theory is real
>Chud King Aegon II doing litterally nothing aside wandering around woods. Sunfyre showed a single episode
>Greens losing every battle, the ones they won in the books all cut, running out of dragons, still somehow pushed as a menace
>Tayland's Bizzare Essos Adventures: Season 2 (just because they couldnt write a way to torture him in KL without making Rhaenyra clueless of It)

These leaks seems very grim
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>>218082765
>But no, people just keep repeating R+L=J, magic and prophecy is real etc
what technology resurrected Catelyn after she was a rotting corpse for 3 days?
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How long are they going to keep Dunc as an awkward virgin in the show? It made some sense in the book where he's 16 but he's clearly like 26 in the show so it's pretty fucking weird.
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>>218084064
I realized that Dunk has no charachters i despise or dread seeing besides Rafe, their all cool and fun charachters, even the puppet lady.
Meanwhile hotd has the oppisite problem.
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>>218084066
>he bore the sword
he doesn't even use it or wield it
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>>218084066
Based greenchad
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>>218084110
Don't worry we'll at least get to see Rhaenyra become dragon food in 2 years.
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>>218084041
Aerys 2
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>>218084110
the only positive was the based Cannibal appearance, but everything beyond that is like the writers are actively trying to piss people off. It would be like if this thread got the chance to write a parody script to make HOTD as pozzed as possible. If HBO actually greenlit that dogshit they are crazy
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These threads are moving too fast to keep up ...
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>>218084130
yep, honestly its impressive.
rafe getting killed off immediatly was pretty good because I hated her from the start
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>>218084110
I remember people saying this when we got the s2 leaks...
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>>218084124
He's canonically a fuckboy who left bastards all over the place so not much longer I'd imagine?
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>>218084148
how come?
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>>218084124
wasn't he a child prostitute?
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>>218082427
>that's the only time they were ever really scary. I never understood why they went with the goofy muppet design. even the weird savage look from the very first scene of season 1 was better
making them ugly, generic ice zombies doomed the plot line from the start. the Others are supposed to be ice elves that are simultaneously terrifying and beautiful
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I’m just not sure I believe Daemon raises an army in the riverlands that quickly
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>>218084110
>Aemond's bloodline eventually wins Westeros through the Whents and Tullys
So damn zased. Partial Green Victory
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>>218084183
>>218084183
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BqS4iwYV448
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>>218084183
When did Raymun have time to paint a green apple shield in the 10 minutes between his falling out with Steffon and the trial?
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>>218084221
oh shit
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>>218084130
>>218084148
Rafe was supposed to be annoying though. She didn't make it out of Fleabottom because she was too tricksy, she couldn't just leave it alone. The audience should see the character and know quickly that she's crazy.

Even so I'd say it was the weakest part of the show so far. The flashback overall was fine, just dragged a little because the fight was happening in the same episode. They just didn't sell the Dunk/Rafe relationship, and really fucked up in not showing them as part of a larger gang.
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>>218084195
>catelyn is actually a bastard through her Whent blood
Cat bros.... not like this
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>>218084183
>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BqS4iwYV448
>>218084204
crazy part is raymun only joined to Duncan could meet the 7 requirements for the trial, but he actually put in work
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>>218084195
Purest fanfictium based on everyone existing in the same geographic area within the span of twenty years secretly being related to each other.
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>>218084245
Rafe's actor is also just ugly like Arya's actor.
Just unpleasant to look at.
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>>218084286
raymun tanked that shit
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I won't lie, i miss her.
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>>218084288
The whole Dagger stuff and Aegon's Dreams are worthless if the Lich King-ripoff isnt gonna be killed with that dagger by a blood descendant of The Conqueror. Its fucking stupid but this is what the Showverse is slowing building up
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>>218084319
>I won't lie
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>>218084286
THE MVP
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>>218084063
She had better chemistry with Matt Smith desu
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went to buy groceries and saw a guy with a white and red checkered beanie and was wondering which house he was sworn to
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>>218084334
GRRM at some point fell in love with the Targs and has been trying to retroactively make them look better ever since. So now he resorts to the corniest fantasy tropes like them being chosen by the gods to save the world. If he actually goes that route he's a massive hack, for all he bitches about Tolkien he never did anything close to that kind of bullshit
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>>218084352
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>>218084319
>I won't lie, i miss her.
so why are you lying
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will season 3 be even funny bad or just boring dogshit?
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>>218084334
Lucas Lothson was a grown man and a knight by 136 AC by which time Aemond's bastard would have been around six years old.
Unless you add a time traveling baby into the mix the Lothstons and their Whent cadets are not descended from the bastard.
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>>218081938
>Women should never be in power. Every time they get a sniff of it, they abuse it, use it to settle grudges and destroy everything that men build.
Because men in westeros do such a great job of governing and don't ever do stupid self-destructive shit to settle grudges, right?
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>>218084384
fuuuuck
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>>218084137
that Danerys in S tier? surely that is some mummer's farce...
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>>218084182
You're thinking of Amos from the Expanse.
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VHEGAR VS 20 GOOD MEN
WHO WINS
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>>218084416
Woman do it.
EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
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>>218084404
It was never stated that the Whent are Lothson's cadets: only that they served them before taking Harrenhall.
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>>218084015
Watching Dunk makes me feel stupid for watching hotd
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>>218084454
Just, powerful, brought back dragons and able to rise from very little
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>>218084212
in the 10 minutes between his falling out with Steffon and the trial
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>>218084456
twenty goodman would impregnate the bitch
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>>218084479
Jorah...
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>>218084319
very cute
such kissable nose
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>>218084401
S2 was just boring dogshit and I don't expect S3 to be better.
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>>218084319
She kinda look like monke from this angle
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>>218084479
Im a show only but didn't she burn that merchant after trading her dragon for slaves?
Seems really dishonourable to me.
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>>218084479
>Just
cmon now, her reign in mereen is disastrous
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>>218083991
>Gurrm mentions siege towers once or twice, and reveals that he's completely retarded on the matter. Gurrm belives that siege towers are constructed at home base and are then rolled like a car on the roads
Isn't there a line about Stannis cutting the forest around Storm's End down for siege engines and towers?
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>>218084463
I know, Tywin is such a bitch!
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>>218084378
>for all he bitches about Tolkien he never did anything close to that kind of bullshit
I mean Aragon is the rightful ruler of Gondor by blood, and GURM specifically whined about that, but then even early on in ASOIAF Jon being a secret Targ is somehow the key to his character and future in the story (including a fucking resurrection, another thing GURM whined about Tolkien doing with Gandalf - who is at least part divine as an explanation).

So at least to me it's not that Tolkien didn't do any of this, it's that he did it better and didn't have a long rant about why doing it was bad storytelling and <vague anticapitalist, antimonarchist talking points>.

Shit kings were just supposed to be that "Aragon's tax policy" point GURM also whined about, showing the sausage being made and leaders being incompetent. Which really won't go anywhere with the main cast all ending up at the ruling council as heroes because of their blood and hereditary positions so... who knows man he's a halfbaked fatass.
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>>218084517
She is extremely lenient, merciful to a fault sure, but I believe she'll find a healthy balanced approach soon™.
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>>218084378
>he doesn't know about lemongate
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>>218084401
>will season 3 be even funny bad or just boring dogshit?
What would you have them do?
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>>218084572
execute Condal in public
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>>218084124
He's gonna get pussy eventually spider pussy, Tyrion's great grandma
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>>218084532
>He is no man for sitting in a tent while his carpenters build siege towers
>Stannis Baratheon's foragers had cut the trees down for his siege towers and catapults
>Leobald will not know that. When he sees you raising siege towers, his old woman's blood will run cold, and he will bleat for help
>He saw no siege towers rumbling up the kingsroad, but there was timber enough in the wolfswood to build as many as were required.
>What if we were to build siege towers? My brother Viserys told tales of such, I know they can be made
>Whilst I've been building rams and siege towers, Ryman Frey has raised a gibbet
>The Lannister camp rang to the sound of wooden hammers where a new siege tower was rising
>Siege towers can be raised if need be," Stannis said. "Trees can be felled for rams if rams are required
And so on.
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>>218084307
At least kid Arya was cute.
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>>218084183
Applebowl
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>>218084307
Arya was adorable
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>>218084183
Did they explain how Raymun got his green apple shield?
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>>218084911
he had his own sigil ready to go, he's been itching to break from under his cousins apple
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>>218084911
he painted it, nigga
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>>218084886
How and why did she go from adorable to something that prompts this kind of reaction whenever she's on screen
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I NEED A HERO
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t_ETXwRlcWE
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>>218084364
Should've gave the stick man a gold cloak
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>>218084911
probably used some green paint on the shield
in the shape of an apple
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>>218084984
I don't get it
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>>218084401
I'm just in it for the medieval battles, and CGI dragons, I don't give a shit about the plot because I never read Fire and Blood
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>>218084015
>s3 trailer
no rhaenyra the cruel? don't care
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WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE ME DO, ANONS?
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>>218085041
This is actually said a lot during GoT. I notice it every time now
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>>218084947
most cute kid actors grow up to be from average to ugly as sin adults
add to that bong genes
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I felt nothing watching that trailer
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>>218085070
Emma was gorgeous even as an adult, at least til she hit the wall. She got hagified in short order after that. British genes.
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>>218085078
It's just cgi dragonslop
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>>218084347
They really should have kept Monke
She was way better at being smug too
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>>218085078
i didn't watch the trailer. i'm better than you because i didn't watch hotd
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>>218085059
Name an instance where it's used once in every season.
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>>218084563
More likely she'll overcorrect and become tyrannical.
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>>218084100
Technically, she is alive in AKOTSK.
Whether she is in Westeros or not I do not know.
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>>218084572
>What would you have them do?
Stop raping the source material, ser.
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>>218084015
Honestly I’d give this show a 10/10 if we get a lesbian scene with alicent and rhaenyra
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>>218085111
Season 1 - Dany asks "What would you have me do (with him)?"
Season 2 - Blackwater - Joffrey asks what would you have me do to Tyrion when Tyrion says if you wont defend your city why should they
Season 5 ep 5 - Tormund asks "What would you have me do, lord commander?" to Jon
Season 5 Ep 7 - Dany again asks "what would you have me do"
There's at least 1 more in season 1 I just can't place when and where
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Holy shit knight of the 7 kingdoms is good. I thought it was all done though! Fuck, can I enjoy hotd even though politically motivated race swaps disgust me?
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>>218085059
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>>218085203
retarded writing lmao
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>>218085205
HotD is hilarious dogshit, don't bother. K7K really highlighted how fucking awful it is.
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>>218085205
i'm rewatching hotd, currently e1s2 and yes, it's slightly less infuriating when you don't have to wait 7 days for the next disappointing slop episode
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>>218085205
>Fuck, can I enjoy hotd even though politically motivated race swaps disgust me?
The first season is ok, the second is dogshit, and the third looks like it'll be worse.
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Just rememberd Quentyn Martell was a character that existed and had POV chapters.

Really riveting stuff there George
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>>218085148
Seems unlikely, given her internal monologue.
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>>218084183
>>218084253
I know Raymun doesn't have a particularly big impact on the Dunk and Egg stories, but I'd like to see him back later, maybe with Dunk and Egg helping Raymun split from the main Fossaways to become the Green Apple Fossaways.
Just a few more episodes. Maybe at the end of S2, Dunk is approached by Raymun for assistance to do so.
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>>218085250
His inclusion was the definition of filler.
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>>218085232
Thank you for calling it K7K rather than Akotsk, which sounds like the gulag they need to send Martin to until his finishes his book.
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>>218085250
Every Martell chapter is a humiliation ritual for the Dornish. An entire family incapable of not fucking up.
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>>218085250
Quentyn isn't even the worst Dorne POV.
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>What of the kingsguard?
>TAKE HEART BEESBURY, I WILL HANDLE THE KINGSGUARD!
>Beesbury dies to the kingsguard
The world is nowhere near close enough ready to hear this, but Baelor is a HUGE asshole.
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>>218085307
He flew too close to the honey and was stung
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>>218084286
Damn, Raymun put in some work in that fight. He was furious at his cousin. I want to hear him next episode tell Dunk that he broke a few of his cousin's ribs. I want it, and I better get it.
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>>218085306
He really is. His sister, at least, had some unintentional comedy.
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>>218085232
>>218085284
agreed. k7k is what I will be using going forward.
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>>218085320
I was referring to Areo Hotah. Arianna is up their with Cersie on kino POVs if you enjoy reading about delusional people
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>>218085367
Oh yeah. Hotah was boring and pointless. God why was he even in the book? Same with Oakheart now that I remember. Why were there so many fucking Dorne PoVs for a deadend plotline?
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>>218085320
His sister is an incredibly dumb bitch who almost ruins her father's plans just to be petulant and spiteful, but at least there are interesting things going on that we learn during them.
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>>218085415
>His sister is an incredibly dumb bitch who almost ruins her father's plans just to be petulant and spiteful
Yeah I know, it was really funny watching her dad easily foil all her stupid delusional plans then mind break her just by grounding her.
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>Dorne
no thanks, I'm racist.
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>>218084124
I am an awkward virgin at 31 ...
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>>218085250
I liked Quentyn but we really didn't need to hear him muse about the Drinkwater Twins and how his aunt's brother's dogsitter was a Targ so he should be able to ride a dragon no problemo.
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>>218085452
please understand small indie gardener writer
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>>218084124
I read all 3 novellas and he's an awkward virgin throughout all of them, despite aging up several years over the course of the books. He chases the puppet girl all over Dorne and never manages to find her, could have banged a hot tomboy noblewoman if he was suaver but he was such a bumbling idiot he ruined his chance with her.
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>>218085452
Quentyn is arguably the most deluded person in the whole series and that is a strong contention when Cersei exists.
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>>218085224
Not a great argument because when push comes to shove Rhaenyra also supports male-preference primogeniture.

She doesn't think she deserves the throne because of womens' rights, but because she's an exemption to the rule "because my dad said so".
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>>218085415
Her father's plan is nearly as stupid as his daughter's. Doran is a bumbling idiot who roleplays as a mastermind while more members of his family die.
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>>218085513
tbf his dad put him upto it thinking frogface was really going to charm the pants off the bitch with 3 dragons who can do basically anything she wants
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>>218085530
His plan to have Oberyon on the small council and his bastard daughters spread over the seven kingdoms in positions of influence wasn't a bad idea but Oberyon blew the plan when he used Tyrions trial as his chance to get revenge on the Mountain.
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>>218085530
Doran's plans would work if his family members weren't retards. Literally the only competent person at his disposal is Areo Hotah whose skills are limited to apprehending wayward girls and splitting knights in half with a long ax.
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With the benefit of the last decade of hindsight can we say now, definitively, that George's decision to not do the 5 year time skip ruined the series and any chance it had of getting finished?
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>>218085607
I think the ending that D&D came up with is really what soured him on everything. GRRM doesn't really outline his books in detail, so he claims, he has a general idea of what he wants to happen and then lets the story evolve naturally as he writes it. So when D&D "adapted" his general idea for how the series end, and it was dogshit, he was probably like "well fuck, it looks stupid to me now and I don't want to finish it"
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>>218085573
It's a stupid fucking idea. When Joffrey chopped off Ned Stark's head and the realm erupted in war, that was the perfect opportunity to ally with whatever strong side and take revenge on the Lannisters. The cowardly Dornish cuckold instead decides to wait. Then he sends off Oberyn and he dies. Then he sends off Quentyn and he dies. Bravo, what a genius schemer.
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>>218085658
>When Joffrey chopped off Ned Stark's head and the realm erupted in war, that was the perfect opportunity to ally with whatever strong side and take revenge on the Lannisters.
This.
If he had backed Stannis all the Lannisters would be dead now.
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>>218085607
No, the excuse that he wrote himself into a corner is just that, an excuse. He already has everything necessary setup to resolve things in Mereen and get Dany to Westeros.
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>>218085415
If ever do get Winds I'm looking forward to seeing how she fucks up Faegon's Targ/Blackfyre restoration plans.
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>>218085658
Dorne doesn't have much in the way of armies. It doesn't have a strong fleet either. Dorne projects an image of strength because it's not actually very strong. Resistant against invaders, sure, but that doesn't mean they can provide much help in a civil war.
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How did Baelor fighting the kingsguard work to keep them off Dunk exactly? I doubt Baelor would want to seriously harm them & the kingsguard are sworn to not attack Baelor
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>>218085724
He was going to go at them and force them to defend themselves. The Kingsguard wouldn't attack him, but they would still defend themselves.
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>>218085724
Honestly what are you even supposed to do when two people you're sworn to protect are trying to kill each other through a legal process that you can't technically stop?
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>>218085682
Just playing devils advocate here but he was already set on backing Viserys then Danaerys when he died. It was stupid and he should have pivoted to either support Robb or Stannis when he had the chance but he at least had reasons for not backing them.
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>>218085682
What aid could the Martells have possibly given Stannis? Money, I suppose? Dorne isn't particularly rich, it's definitely not richer than the Tyrells or the Lannisters who were bankrolling the two biggest factions. Dorne calling all its spears would have a few thousand fighting men. Precious few knights. And fighting outside Dorne, they'd be nothing special. A fairly small, mediocre army, hundreds of miles away from Stannis' base of power around Dragonstone.
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>>218085765
The kingsguard should've omitted themselves from the trial when they learned Baelor was on the opposing team but then again you have Maekar & Aerion on the same side you're defending. I think one of the kingsguard dies, I guess from Lyonel
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>>218085307
kek. poor beebro
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being maekar is sufferin
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>>218085806
I can't recall if any died in the book, but one had to be carried off the field in a stretcher.
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>>218085832
GET THE KINGSGUARD STRETCHER
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>>218085607
I think it played a part, yes. Going forth without that time skip messes a lot of character arcs up and probably lead to all kinds of timeline issues behind the scenes. I guess it's part of why Gurrm can't find a way to write the story forward.

I recently read the Mercy chapter. I originally didn't want to read the sample chapters, but wait for the actual release if WoW. But we all know that's never going to happen. That chapter surely was devised for an older Arya. She's like 12yo in it, but also a turbo slut who lets different adult men play with her nipples.
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>>218085878
Kingsguard, get in here... we're telling stretch stories
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How difficult would it have actually been for a commoner to get real knighthood in asoiaf times?
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>>218085937
>any knight can make a knight
There must have been some mill somewhere with a hedge knight trading a knighting for a few free drinks.
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>>218085970
A knight has to have a horse, a sword, armor and shield
You need to provide it to the person you're knighting
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>>218085970
It seems like it doesn't get you anywhere unless your knighthood comes from a reputable source. Some dude dubbing people for coppers becomes an unreputable source very quickly.
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>>218084015
Bad show
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>>218085937
Be from a wealthy commoner family, squire for a knight, eventually become a knight. Easy.
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>>218085937
You need to have pretty hot sister. That is also virgin.
So pretty fucking hard.
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>>218085792
Someone less lazy than me should look it up, but from what I remember Dorn does raise its army at the start of the Woft5K and deploys it to guard the mountain passes to the rest of Westeros. I belive it's 10K men in total. There are a few mentions about how this force is dwindling over the years now, because men desert home or drunkenly kill each other.

I personally find it very hard to belive that a premodern feudal levy army could be kept in the field for so long at all. The men need to go back home to work. And it must be pretty hard to feed all of them in the mountains like that.
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>>218085937
pretty difficult. any knight can make a knight sure, but you'd have to be able to convince a knight to knight you first of all, which would be pretty hard if you don't have feats behind your name or a reputation with other knights or lords already.

and calling yourself a knight when you don't have a sword, armor, horses, and a squire is going to make most lords and other knights question your capability and sanity, and none of that shit is cheap.
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>Now you see me as I truly am
>deadful in vengeance
>Righteous and GLORIOUS
I swear Aegon is the only good thing about HotD
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>>218085937
You'd have to impress the right people with feats of arms and/or valor. So it's actually not that hard, if you're decent at fighting and throw yourself into dangerous situations in front of noblemen. If you're at least a little charismatic and know how to act gallantly, that makes it more likely the nobility they might dub you because they like you.

But while it's not that hard to be raised to knighthood, it's harder to be taken seriously as a knight, as Dunk shows. You need knightly raiment, you need horses, you need arms and armor, and you need the proper bearing of a knight, and if questioned on your knighthood's origins, be able to name credible witnesses to vouch for it.

Dunk's problem is not just the fact that his knighthood is dubious at best, it's that he doesn't dress or act anything like a real knight. He acts like an imposter.
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>>218085970
>>218086000
I mean we see with Dunk that you need to be able to proof your knighthood somehow, if it gets called into question. You need atleast character witnesses who know you squired and who can vouch for you beeing a truthfull guy.
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>>218085937
Can you provide him with a sword, shield and armor?
This was Dunks entire problem with the tourney. If he lost those, he couldnt be a knight anymore
even though he wasnt to begin with
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>>218084212
I mean... given the quality its entirely possible he did it in 10 minutes lol
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>>218085658
hell, he should have moved during the Greyjoy rebellion
>bring over viserys
>betroth Dany to the Tyrells to get the Reach
>get the narrow sea lords to storm kings landing while Robert is in the West
>win
Doran is a fucking pussy who is also low IQ, bad combination
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>>218085155
Melly seduces Duncan into pulling off the Summerhall conspiracy. It’s all coming together.
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>>218085970
there are knights who do that. but people will usually ask a knight who knighted them, and if word gets around that ser anon of bumblefuckistan is knighting people for cheap bar skank pussy and pisswater beer, your reputation as knight will tank pretty rapidly.
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>Those HotD s3 leaks.
Is that why GRRM looks like shit recently? Did he read the script and it gave him a heart attack?
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>>218086108
Dunk is basically only a knight because he clings to the trappings of knighthood to pass himself off as one. And then he went and did a genuine act of chivalry which impressed a lot of the actual knights around him, enough to take his side in the trial.
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>>218086136
He distanced himself from hotd since S2
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>>218086136
No, he is just fat and old.
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>>218086110
bro even fucked up on it.
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>>218086112
His biggest problem is that he didn't do shit for Viserys and Dany during the time when they were in exile and getting kicked around and resorted to selling Dany off to the Dothraki, and only made grand gestures to court them once Dany had dragons and scarcely needs their support anymore.
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>>218086136
If reading the s8 script during pre-ozempic times couldn't kill him no amount of dogshit can.
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>>218086112
>A Martell of Dorne
>allying with the Reach
lol
lmao
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>>218086173
That shit traumatized him so bad that he hasn't written a ASOIAF book since. It didn't kill him but it killed his will to continue to his legacy
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MAEKAR
SMASH!
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>"The Septon's say we must love our brothers!"
>*Gets killed by his brother*
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>>218086265
Too bad he doesn't do that to Bloodraven and every other Bastard shit Aegon IV legalized
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>>218086110
It does look wet and runny.
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>>218085899
I don’t really understand how the timeskip can fuck things up the way he says it will. Like you just pick up five years later and if something is absolutely essential you describe it in dialogue or maybe flashback if you really need to go into it.
But people are always like “because 5 years later Jon and Dany, etc will be a totally different person and we won’t see” but yeah thats the point, you skip over it and restart the story.
And its funny too because describing things like Summerhall third hand and long after the event is an actual strength George’s writing has. The lore he drops in the context of the story is always way better and more evocative than the longform wikipedia article books.
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IN THE NAME OF THE MOTHER
LEAVE THAT BOY BE
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>>218086153
He didn't fuck up during the fighting though.
He bashed the shit out of Aerion, saving Dunk's life, tanked a lance from a Kingsguard, and then matched his bitchass cousin blow for blow, then caught Dunk from collapsing after Aerion yielded.
He's aces in my book.
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>>218086374
He's the apple of my eye.
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>>218084572
not inserting their agenda into it and actually try to follow the source material or use it as a vehicle to tell their own dogshit stories they can't get into a standalone show
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>>218086374
he also cracked his cunt cousin ribs
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>>218086339
*vomits*
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>>218086374
He's a good apple, aye.
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How does Alicent even have defenders
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>>218086339
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>>218086437
50% of the population is below average IQ
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>>218086437
Alicent is the best i don’t see anything she’s done wrong. Even trying to put that kids eye out was understandable if a bit harsh and she didn’t actually do it
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>>218086454
even some of the people who hate her do it for retarded reasons like because of how she was with rhaenyra in season 1
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>>218085205
> can I enjoy hotd even though politically motivated race swaps disgust me?
maybe some parts of it
the race swapped characters are pretty significant and season 3 will have them as based on the trailer
its also dogshit in other ways compared to Dunk and Egg
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IN THE NAME OF THE MOTHER, YOU WILL POST!
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>>218086464
She essentially said Rhaenyra and team black could kill all of her male relatives at the end of last season.
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>>218086451
Why is everyone always shitting and pissing and puking in this show?
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>>218086505
Oh, right I forgot about that
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>>218085261
no fanfic please
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>>218086515
That's what people do.
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>>218084561
The subversion with Jon’s heritage isn’t that it’s meant for him to become king of Westeros but it’s the key to how House Targaryen gets annihilated

Rhaegar’s actions to birth Jon leads to Robert’s Rebellion

Jon’s heritage reveal breaks the relationship between Jon and Dany breaks their relationships and leads to Jon murdering Dany and fucking off with the wildings

You’d have had your King Jon and Queen Dany ending if Jon was actually just Ned Stark’s bastard
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>>218084137
Daeron.... My King....
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why are they called black and greens?
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>>218085452
Let’s be fair. Quentyn is descended from Daenerys Targaryen. Daeron the Good’s sister. Ben Plumm is descended even father from back to Targaryens via Aegon IV and the dragons liked him but I guess the difference is the agnatic line
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>>218086569
Their heraldry.
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>>218086569
black because they have blacks on their side
Greens because hightowers love that green, ya feel? they on that grind making that paper
yessir
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>>218086569
George cannot go five sentences without stealing something from the Wars of the Roses.
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>>218086588
Dragons didn't even like every full blooded Targ. It ran thinner in some than others.
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>>218086603
The Wars of the Roses was not even close to the first time in history two opposing factions were identified by simple colors.
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>>218086451
kino
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>>218086611
George wouldn’t know that.
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>>218086522
>We know Raymun establishes the Green Apple Fossaways.
>We don't know how.
Raymun is a fantastic side character. Baelor is best, Lyonel is second best, Raymun is third.
Baelor is dead, and Lyonel isn't relevant for at least another decade.
Dunk and Egg go on many adventures.
Repaying Raymun would be a great sidequest. I'm not asking much, just for Raymun to come back for a couple episodes in the future.
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i shant be watching unless they show flashbacks of monke rhaenyra and young alicent exporing each others bodies as teens.
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>>218086588
>I guess the difference is the agnatic line
Prestion's autism wins again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aoFCZGr3LY&t=38s&pp=ygUWZ290IGRyYWdvbiByaWRpbmcgZ2VuZdIHCQmiCgGHKiGM7w%3D%3D
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Gotta admit the show HOTD feel kinda pointless since alicent and her crew are a bunch of evil retards
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>>218084119
Nanomachines, son. They're like the Walrider.
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>>218086568
Why does Baelor look so much more Dornish than his brothers
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Raymun is even more heroic than Dunk. He stood up for Dunk, just like Dunk did for Too-Tall, but he was sober when he made the decision, never was going to take a dive in the lists and wasn't doing it for pussy but for the love of the game.
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>>218086679
the egg is strong
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THE BOAR IS PREGNANT
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i wonder if season 2 of AKOTSK should quick cut to quick moments with Dunk and Egg and a side adventure they had in between season 1 and 2, like family guy cuttaways unironically, it would be nice to also see other season 1 characters even as a cameo
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>>218086682
This is random but i feel like raymun (and the actor) is the only one who would belong in the GoT show

Everyone else just look so different from the original show idk how to explain
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>>218086629
I shan’t be watching unless Rhae violently rapes Alicent in the black cells (anything a man can do she can do better)
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They seriously expect me to watch this slop after witnessing this kino for the last 5 weeks?
https://youtube.com/shorts/GqYrUVUPO_k?si=MTats2yeknEmf_TF
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>>218086679
He was conceived when Myriah was on top
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>>218086710
This but only if its monke rhae and adult alicent
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Chaosh ish a laddah
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Lebron james
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>>218086569
Dresses. No, really. The whole feud is a cat fight that spiraled out of control. At one dinner party, well into the development of the rivalry between princess and queen, Alicent wore a green gown and Rhaenyra wore a black one. Thereafter, the supporters of each woman wore colors match those dresses to show their loyalty at court. Basically gangbanger shit.
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>>218086679
Well Rhaegel the naked also looks pretty dornish.
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>>218086639
what? do you want the heckin' chungus lgbtq+ non binary actor to play an evil villain?
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>>218086708
Raymun looks like theon
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>>218086851
No, he looks like Ser Pod, the Rod God.
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>>218086919
that's just the brigandine
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>>218084124
realistically he'd be fucking after book 2. tansel too swarthy was not remarkable in the slightest
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What would Egg’s generation of Targs think of the Dance? Do they think the Blacks were in the right or do they not have an opinion
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>>218087018
whatever the (((maesters))) conditioned them to believe probably that the greens wee in the right as theyre from Oldtown
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>>218087018
Everyone stop talking about the dance the moment it ended, the whole realm memoryholed the whole thing, even the greens serving Aegon III never talked about it
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>>218086968
Nah.
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>>218086708
Lyonel would fit in just fine hamming it up with the brotherhood or something, maybe a captain of one of the mercenary companies (obviously not as Lyonel but the same character/mannerisms)
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>>218087018
It was old news to them but the Greens had better publicity
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DraHfYnVchw
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>>218085970
>>218086000
>>218085937
Okay guys, I got a plan, this may seem wacky, but hear me out...
>Scrounge around fresh battlefields for a sword/shield/armor/etc
>polish them up nicely, and repaint the shield, most important part is looking good
>Bounce around to Shithole Inns and taverns in small bumfuck villages
>make up a sobstorry about loosing in a tourney, and needing money
>Tell the drunkards you will knight them for a fee(who gives a fuck if they have no sword, not my fucking problem)
>change your name and coat of arms every so often, so people don't catch on to the scam
>keep doing this untill you have a tiddy sum
>find an actual knight of loose moral fiber who will take a bribe to give you legit knighthood
>you are now a proper hedge knight
>tell the drunkards that you are
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>>218087018
It got memory holed in favor of more pressing and immediate politics, namely the Blackfyre rebellion. To Egg's generation it was far, far more important if you were red or black, rather than green or black.
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>>218085970
what does being a knight actually mean anyway, you can just do all the same shit knighthood or not other than tourneys, Sandor became a KG without a knight hood
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>>218087145
seems like a lot of work and difficult to execute
you would have to change your appearance as well for the word to not get around
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>>218087116
Targaerion
naeh but I like him
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>>218087145
Nobody would pay you for that. They would know it wouldn’t mean anything, you’re not a “ser” if nobody ever calls you ser and being a knight isn’t worth shit if they won’t pay you a Knight’s wages.
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>>218087157
the blackfyre rebellion started like 60 years after the dance it was not immediately after
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>>218087018
They probably seethe at the mere mention of it and hate both sides, because all it did was get their dragons killed.
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You think George was referencing the The Red and the Black novel with the whole black dragon vs red dragon or am I overthinking it?
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>>218087223
Yeah that's my point. Nobody cared about it because they had their own stuff going on.
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Why didn't Bran warg into any of the seven warriors of Duncan side to help him win?
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>>218087018
Targgers are sick they can't just do whatever they want at all times, even Baelor the Blessed was praying for more Dragons, while everyone else was relieved when the once a generation Targ Chimpout happens, atleast they don't have Dragons
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>>218087175
>seems like a lot of work and difficult to execute
Probably. I imagine the hardest part of the grift is how long it would take to get enough money. it'd probably cost several hundred times as much to bribe a real knight than what you make from scamming drunks. And any one of those drunks might just decided to test your sword or rat you out. And if you just happen to bump into a real knight or noble, they might just have you executed on the spot for pretending. But I think it could theoretically work

>>218087189
That's why you target the drunks
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>>218087304
Because he won?
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>>218087018
Egg and co descend from Rhaenyra, but the culture war was 'won' by the Greens to the extent that it is not even what the Greens would have expected or wanted. When Baelor (that is the king) died his sisters got skipped over and instead his uncle Viserys II (a son of Rhaenyra) was crowned. So that has gone way beyond a conflcit between following the norm of a son over daughter into becoming uncles over daughters. For Egg and co the Blackfyre rebellion is the living history, with the Dance being history of the dead. The main thing Targaryens will think about the Dance is not politics but rather how they no longer have dragons.
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>>218087304
He was Warging all 14 of them (yes, including Dunk) and picked exactly who died. Beesbury dying was key to Bloodraven and Time Travelling Bran's plans for the realm
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>>218087335
the greens didnt gave a shit about male>female bullshit lmao they just wanted the iron throne
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>>218087345
Woah
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George: "the human heart in conflict with time travellers who write all of history and override all their decisions is the only thing worth writing about. I've always taken that as my guiding principle, and the rest is just set dressing"
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>>218087364
...But that doesn't make sense. The current-thing TV show told me this entire plot was about gender and identity politics. I don't understand why they would lie about something like that
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>>218087408
>The current-thing TV show told me
well you're right about that but the gay ass show is not based on the book
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>>218087304
He warged into Hardying since he was a fellow cripple then got bodied in the first charge.
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The moment I knew it was kino in the making.
https://youtu.be/lq8NFzR-UwM
Don't know how they'll be able to keep it up in second season.
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The Greens knew the evil Queen, know as Maegor with Tits, would kill them all once she got power so they were fighting a death war to protect themselves.
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>>218087364
Explain all the greens that don’t have Hightower blood
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>>218084124
he has issues with his dick because of growing up around Arlan's Magnum Dong
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>>218087335
>culture war
It was a war of succession between two branches of the same dynasty, not a ideological conflict.
The culture war angle is cope concocted by tribal colourfaggots who experience acute emotional trauma at the thought their fucking "team" losing.
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>>218087461
Power hungry sycophants
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>>218087364
Which was still justified by them, even if you take the reason as nominal and bullshit, on the culture norm of sons over daughters. The point is by the time of the events of Dunk there is such an aversion to a woman on the Iron Throne, despite a Black victory, they have gone to the extreme of skipping over women. There would have been few people, beyond probably King Jaehaerys, who would legally or culturally have supported that as the correct approach in the Dance/pre-Dance era.
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>>218087495
>>218087364
Nah, it was a war to decide if a king has the power to name his heir or if Andal tradition takes precedence, the side for andal tradition got their way
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>Black Dragon
>Red Dragon
>Green Dragon
THEY ARE ALL INCESTUOUS ALIENS, ANONS!
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>>218084093
a 30 minute melee bout between 14 people is actually extremely unrealistic
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>>218087529
>There would have been few people, beyond probably King Jaehaerys, who would legally or culturally have supported that as the correct approach in the Dance/pre-Dance era.
It's not fucking Dorne, this is what the entire realm did in practice in their own houses.
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>You will wed, bed and put a child in Sophie Turner

What is Tyrion's problem?
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>>218087509
Why would a power hungry sycophant would go with the side that has half the amount of dragons and levies as the other side
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Was the action part of the most recent episode shorter than the scene in Gladiator where they fight in front of the emperor?
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>>218085970
The first MLM scheme
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>>218087611
He knew she would turn into a slag
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>hotd related edition rather than dunk related
>hotd discussion rather than dunk discussion
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>>218087611
>She’s a slag!
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>>218087617
to upjump the lovers if they win, youre very naive
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>>218087617
Because they thought the whole realm would support their bullshit usurpation.
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>>218086559
Man, this bloodraven fellow sounds like a real jerk
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>>218087677
GODS, she was haughty then...
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>>218087677
This can't be, anons keep telling me NOBODY is interested or will watch HOTD
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>>218087540
Again, this is tragic cope.
The Targaryens continued to play and fast and loose with succession laws for the entire duration of the dynasty.
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>>218087713
Zero queens ever
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>>218087724
stannisbros.....
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>>218087442
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>Cersei is going to be the first Queen of Westeros
So damn zased. My fucking LIONESS and Queen. Kill 'em all, Cersei!
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>>218087738
This is why the British have a drinking culture, otherwise they would go extinct
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>>218087740
lmao
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>>218087738
Would 100%
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>>218087709
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I feel like the flashback was actually just to help establish what the fuck the blackfyres are for when it comes up in season 2
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>>218087755
Na, we love our goblinas. You wouldn't get it.
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>>218087738

Prime Maisie
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>>218087751
??? We already now it's Rhaenyras fat ass
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>>218087814
Anon, most people watching this who do not know about the Blackfyres already are not going to remember about them from the flashback come S2. The flashback was there ultimately for padding as HBO wants 6 episodes and it expanded E5 out rather than E5 and E6 being merged into one.
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>>218084110
>Daemon STILL rallying the Riverlords
Please....
Just stop already
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>>218087888
The leaks confirm they are rallied and fighting fishfeed, butchers ball and tumblesneed
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>>218087861
She was just a pretender to the throne, like Renly or Daemon Blackfyre. On the Westerosi King List, she doesn't appear. If, for example, there was a separate Rhaenyra - lets say a Rhaenyra Beesbury (why not?) got elected queen by Great Council for some reason. She'd be Rheaenyra I because Rhaenyra isn't recognised as Queen by the realm. Also, the throne rejected her and cut her.
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is Rhaenyra going to get fatter
haha
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>>218087442
they will make it gay and retarded in season 2
also the second story is not as kino apparently anyway
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>>218086123
>just chilling with my mom
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So the Tully kid is for sure combined with bloody Ben
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>>218087888
>45minute filler episode where Daemons dragon gets stuck in the mud and has to rally Riverlands peasants to pull it out, leading to unity and friendship
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>>218087948
I was reading the comic and it's pretty boring but the third one is kino.
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>>218084561
If it was being used to set up Jon and the realm for a bunch of political complications and chaos that would be a fitting subversion. But it's mainly being used to set him up as the magical hero destined to save the world. he's the song of fire and ice, the secret rightful king, he's died and come back, he'll lead everyone to defeat the white walkers. That's all cool to me but it's also fairly stock for fantasy, makes all that bitching and moaning seem so hypocritical. Probably why he doesn't want to do an ending.
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Lefties keep saying right wing grifters are going to freak out about Raymund next episode
I think he's going to be pro tranny or something
be prepared bros
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Reminder that Borros only lost that battle because the Crownlanders in his army stabbed him in the back during his feint and he still killed like twenty guys as he went down. Blacks, dirty snakes to the last.
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>>218088017
>I was ... le wrong. Maybe Targs aren't so bad, and Baelor was half Dornish too. Maybe we need more Valyrians. More Dornish. Maybe our Andal traditions, like the Faith of the Seven and Trial by Seven, are outdated ...
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>>218088032
>his feint
Bullshit, the riverlords outsmarted his ass because he was too dumb to read.
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>>218088045
>>218088017
they'll probably make him a gay dicksucker. why not.
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>>218088017
Only thing I can think of is they make him gay? But then he goes on to have kids and start a new branch of Fossoway so it’d be pretty dumb
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https://x.com/esjesjesj/status/2024531113041969342
>GRRM and Game of Thrones is the wokest shit on the planet. The bad guys are white supremacists and rich people. The good guys are the poor and women. GRRM is openly an LGBTQ ally and hates Trump. Have you just not read the books or watched the shows
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>>218088135
Your death of the author?
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>>218088135
The bad guy was actually the feminist icon Daenerys all along, and the male hero saves the world by killing her
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>>218087304
He warged into the readhead hence that awkward 'yeah'
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>>218088169
you mean the INCEL CHUD INTROVERTED VIRGIN jon sno
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>>218088323
>virgin
He fucked that wilding and his aunt
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What really happened at Summerhall?
Don't say Bran
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>>218088135
>A foreign mad queen with a foreign army invades Westeros while the cynical, anti-religious, Lannister mad queen fights against her.
>Meanwhile, in the North, an army of evil monsters tries to cross into the realm, protected by a great wall. If that wall was properly manned and maintained, they never would have gotten through (they're able to stop them at Winterfell).
Uh huh. No women rulers. Strong borders. Got it.
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Rhaenyra would have been the perfect ruler if it wasn't for MEN ruining it with their high taxes..
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>>218088360
Egg brought a woods witch to Summerhall to help him with some ritual to hatch a dragon egg and the place burned down, maybe because they tried to use wildfire (but probably not). Probably there wasn’t any blood sacrifice. Duncan rescues several people and dies trying to save others, possibly trying to save Egg himself.
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Mew thread?
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>>218088078
based lol
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>>218088389
At least tyland is ok...
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>randomly turn on the Knight of Seven Kingdoms podcast as some background noise
>female host hasn't even read The Hedge Knight
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>>218088572
It's only like 150 pages, you can read it in an afternoon.
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>>218088360
Egg himself dreamed (or maybe Daeron the Drunk told him) that 'a dragon will hatch at Summerhall'. Invited family and had his KG. They used everything (magic, wildfire, etc). By accident Egg was burned by WF and mofo actually turned into a dragon (Aerys witnessed this and got that idea, and went nuts from PTSD later that his grandfather became a fking dragon). Dunk saves some people and killed the dragon. Dragon turns back to a dying Egg. Turns out that the 'dragon hatching' is just Rhaegar being born.
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>>218088572
Bare minimum is too much for some people
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>>218088638
NEXT
>>218088638
NEXT
>>218088638
NEXT
>>218088638
NEXT

Get in there sers
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>>218086701
The 2nd season will be Sworn Sword. It's already been written.
3rd season is another tournament ep. Also written.



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