Grumpy Grandpa Maekar EditionPrevious >>218076948
Why is magic so OP in this universe? It fucking one shots people. If it works at all.
and his brother.. meerkar!
>>218080824...if?
Do you believe any gods might be real? Or is it all just trickery and magic
AAAGGHH!AAAGGHH!AAAGGHH!
>>218080829kek
>>218080829he was rightif he hadn't been a pussy while fighting his brother he'd still be alive
Reminder that Cregan is a lying cunt
>>218080847Aliens.
>>218080829It's like the old saying: Fear the man with mommy issues in the profession where the man has nice mom.
>>218080829so Maekar's mom didn't love him
>>218080843This jogger has nothing on Melisandre. I'm pretty sure the Red Priests are all frauds, except her and Thoros.
>>218080829>>218080854still a weird thing to say to a teammate/teamleader before the fight
OH N-
>>218079790Duncan would be 44.Lenny B would be between 43-63
>>218080847I posted a few days ago that the Old Gods is just Bran warging from the future and some anon sperged out. Funny shit.
>>218080824>If it works at all.It rarely if ever works >>218080895They’re both roughly the same in capability
>>218080895Ah yes, Victarion's fiery hand was real in my mind.
>>218080847All I know is that the economy was doing much better when the highborns were still making human sacrifices
>>218080900Lyonel is a theater kid, gotta be patient with his autism
>>218080902It happened so suddenly that I didn't expect it. I knew she wasn't in the short stories, so I figured she was either dead or would leave Dunk.
>>218080902I thought this was the puppeteer girl and thought it was dumb that they knew each other as kids. They look too similar.
>>218080919>it’s all Bran broThat’s too cringe even for MartinThe idea that the old gods are green seers from alternate futures and timelines is something I’ve toyed with for a while though
Rather Green Than Wormy!https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BqS4iwYV448
>>218079811The CK3 mod is propped up by it's various submods and is in active development forced to continuously update to maintain compliance with the latest version of CK3 and whatever bugs Paradox introduces.The CK2 mod is a complete experience and thanks to CK2's development cycle being done isn't at risk for having to wait for the mod to be updated.
>>218080847They're all real, all the important ones anyway. Rhollr and The Old Gods are evil sorcerers (some unknown, Bran and Bloodraven) while the Seven are real deities (or rather, one real deity) that exists outside of time and space
>>218080829this line really got into Baelor's head if you rewatch lol
I'm only watching the third season for my boys Aegon and Crispy C
What's Raymun gonna do to own the chuds in the finale?
>>218080902IGGA
>mfw your father who you sold out to the enemy gets executed >mfw your daughter who you basically sold out kill’s herself :0
>>218080980I don't care how much they fuck it, love me aegon, love my aemond, love my sunfyre, simple as
Leaks up
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>>218080976What's the most convincing evidence for the existence of the Seven?
>>218080945So its just a coincidence that Bran the Builder (who built the Wall and Storm's End apparently) has the same name? I mean, if Bran wants to, he could see how the Wall and Storm's End was built unless I'm mistaken.
>>218080980And what has ser criston cole posted
>>218080983full penetration sex with dunk, it will last half the episode
>>218080919it's a retarded theory, because we all know that he just uses his omnipotence to watch the rapes. All of them. Every rape that's ever happened and will ever happen, in all of eartheros
>I may be ripe but he's rotten to the core. Knock the seeds out of him!Do you think they work out these apple puns ahead of time or they just do it so much it comes naturally in conversation
>>218080998The death of Renly for co-opting the seven's colours for his gay Kingsguard.
>>218080900Lyonel likes to fuck with people, we saw this in ep1.
So excited for HotD season 3! Finally we get some real Game of Thrones KINO instead of this knights tale ripoff bullshit nobody liked
>>218080998You're looking at him, asshole.
>>218080980Aegon's a bit crispier than Cole nowadays.
>>218081042This. We need more dyke will they-won't they to put the chuds in their place.
>>218080998
Need a country song about just wanting to drink my cider and kill some incest freaks
So... What's west of Westeros?
>>218081032>Just found out Renly has the Rainbow GuardJFC really
>>218080980when did the greens become chud-coded?
>>218081004>So its just a coincidenceNo, the Starks like every other group of people that has ever existed simply happen to name their children after ancestors.
>>218081027He’s a minor noble with an apple in his sigil. Image the shit he must have heard from more noble kids.
>>218081069always have been
>>218080998All these niggas are casting spells, summoning shadow demons, bringing back the dead, controlling monsters (Dire Wolves, Dragons, etc) manipulating the timeline, controlling people's dreams, granting visions and the Seven are still the biggest religion in Westeros and keep picking up Ws. The Seven are going to get another big win when they beat Cersei, Aegon Blackfyre (Valyirans are outsiders and tied to blood magic in a way Andals aren't) and Euron back to back next book.
>>218081004>So its just a coincidence that Bran the Builder has the same name?"How many Aegon's have been king"
>"What were you the Lord of again" -Rhaegar to Bobby B on the trident
>>218081056>the seven orchestrated a kinslayingBit rude.
>>218081090>pictures taken moments before disaster (at Summerhall)
>>218081064essos
>>218081056I hope this guy becomes a popular actor
>>218081069They're israeli coded
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>>218081102the seven only intervened to revive Dunk
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>>218081127>Brandon Stark, the Three-Eyed Raven, promised this continent to me and this magic dagger proves it and if you disagree we'll bomb your cities and towns and melt your castlesThat's the Blacks.
>>218081068remember that George wrote ACoK in the 90's and the rainbow flag was literally less popular than it is today. It was LITERALLY a different time and he took too fucking long to finish this series.
i don't like Aemond wielding blackfyre, he didn't earn that sword, he doesn't have the skill, he doesn't have the birthright
>>218081087I always said there's only one god: The Stranger and his aspects like the Drowned God, R'hllor (w/e its spelt) etc. I mean only nastiest shit that happened was attributed to him and seriously, was there a time some divine intervention (supposedly by a god) saved someone? Fking The Father's avatar could've appeared and saved Ned.
I’m obsessed either way anything asoiaf related but after seeing the new house of the dragon trailer I can’t watch it anymore.I thought they’d at least try and make it a “no good or evil side” and make it a grey area but it’s very clear now it’s teamSlay Queen vs Tean Chud with the only female on Team Chud is now supporting Slay Queen
>>218081205I didn't even know it was out yet kekhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6w7O1kwuBkwhere were you dipshits on that one
>>218081205The dance wasnt grey at all tho.
>>218081199The Seven will perform their first (and only) overt miracle when they save The Hightower and Old Town.
>>218080998Trial of Seven always works out and the innocent prevail.
>>218080998Dunk being alive
>>218081205So team chud finally kicked the stupid bitch out?BVSED.
>>218081232maekar had a hard life
>>218081027Witty wordplay was somewhat common in 'ye olde days'. It's a way that they can demonstrate their own cleverness, while also taking veiled jabs at their betters
>NOOOOOO DUNK MY CHEQUY WATER SHE STOLE MY RIVER DUNK HELP!>NOOOOO DUNK DON'T DO IT SHE'S EVIL SHE KILLED 4 HUSBANDS SHE'S A WITCH DON't FUCK HER DUNK>NOOOOOOOOOOO
>>218081238This. Maegor lost his trial btw but was revived by blood magic.
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Crippled Aegon and Clubfoot walking through the woods like Lord of the Rings i wonder where they’re going
>>218081234It was definitely very grey, both sides were literally evil or at least done evil things The show has literally removed all the evil things Slay Queen does in the books
It also appears Rhaeyneras plotline after two seasons of buildup involves being locked in a room while the battle goes on outside lel
>>218081064wessos
>>218081270Kek
>>218081335It's like poetry, it rhymes
>>218081314She has babies killed in their bed.
Word of Ice and Fire ruined the Seven because according that book>They actually did practice human sacrifice in the past>They really did practice slavery in the pastMeaning they stopped for no reason. It was the one thing that let them hold their heads up high ahead of all the other faiths.
>>218081350>>218081335>CARMELLAAAAA, OPEN THE DOOOR!!
>>218081270>>NOOOOO DUNK DON'T DO IT SHE'S EVIL SHE KILLED 4 HUSBANDS SHE'S A WITCH DON't FUCK HER DUNK>>NOOOOOOOOOOOHe only said that because he wanted to fuck her himself.
>>218081374RHAENYRA COULD YOU PLEASE STOP BEING A WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE
>>218081309Not far
>>218081270>NOOOOOOO SHE USED HER MAGIC TO MAKE ME SLIP AND FALL ON HER WITH MY ERECT PENIS LANDING INSIDE HER EVIL SPIDER VAGINA GET OUT OF HERE DUNK SAVE YOURSELF
Name me a single male member who has been introduced so far in the show (Daeron doesn’t count” on team Green who hasn’t been made evil by the showrunners Name one
Here's your blue queen broShe was vivid blue at the end of S2 but they neutered her
>>218081391Gawayne the Good
>>218081391Aegon has done nothing wrong.
>Seven forgive me Daemon, but you may be a stronger man than your father, Aegon IV was>Thank You Aegor, but the fundamental question is will i be as effective as a King as my dad was>And i will be>even more so, but until i am it's gonna be hard to verify that i think i'll be more effective
>>218081369Think of it like how Mormon God changed his mind about the blacks in 1978
>>218081391I just ignore S1 Aegon as Mushroom propaganda, which it literally was in the books, and they adapted it straight to try and make the yas queen the good guy and the greens that bad guy. So dumb. I wonder if they regret it themselves because I do actually think S2 Aegon was really good, despite all the dogshit around HotDUnfortunate for normies they dont have this luxury
>>218081335What would you have her do?
>>218081391Aemond isn’t evil he’s just misunderstood and Gwayne
>>218081414>rapes little girls>makes his own children fight to the death with tooth and nail, and bets on them dying
>>218081391Otto?
>>218081445Most people (outside this board) probably consider him evil even though I think he was just a pragmatist
that hotd trailer killed my asoiaf vibe
>>218081414RATCATCHERS!
>>218081466Same
>>218081369keep in mind world of ice and fire was written by a maest*rnot a septon
>House Stark sends its regardshow do you respond?
>>218081463he started the war
>>218081391All of Helaena's bugs are canonically male.
>>218081056>GET UP ROCKY GET UP YA BUM
>>218081309>i wonder where they’re goingThey're running in circles for 5 episodes
>>218081466i'm sending aid anon
>>218081442lies by mushroom taken at complete face value by the retard showrunners. death to sara hess
If you keep posting hotdoodoo I'm leaving, I'm warning you.
>>218081495I completely agree, but they don't have that context in the showIt's really funny how you go from S1E9 where Aegon is literally betting on his own children fighting to the death, then in S2E1 they decide to make him a father who clearly loves his childrenlollmao
Parting gift for the awesome 2 threads. Have to go.'Leaks' from the other side whose post was deleted idk if this is true or not.
>>218081064The sunset sea is basically Polynesia but all the islands are empty. Eventually you'll hit Essos but it takes a while.A Targ princess tried it and turned back when she found jackshit. The Sea Snake allegedly made the trip to Essos.
>hotd already killing the vibesthey should have waited until the last episode aired for the trailer
>>218081473You see a villain, i see a loving father destroyed by grief.
>why is magic so overpowered in this world- ACK— The songs say that Torgold knew no fear and felt no pain. Though bleeding from a score of wounds, he cut a red swathe through Lord Redfort's staunchest warriors, then took his lordship's arm off at the shoulder with a single cut. Nor was he dismayed when the sorceress Ursula Upcliff appeared upon a bloodred horse to curse him. By then he was bare-handed, having left both of his axes buried in a foe's chest, but the singers say he leapt upon the witch's horse, grasped her face between two bloody hands, and tore her head from her shoulders as she screamed for succor.
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>>218081557This isn’t canon. Whoever made it is a fucktard.
>>218081528that first episode should've been the season finale for S2
>>218081482is ramsay a secret Stark?
>>218081528>cryptic phophecyJesus Christ, Ryan really is a brainlet. No wonder George flipped his shit.
>>218081364Even the books pin that on Daemon
>>218081466>hotd discourse starts>vibes turn acidicMany such cases.
LADY ROHANNE YOU MUST SAVE DUNK FROM HIS BROWN GIRL FETISH WITH YOUR HEAVY PALE MILKERS AND YOUR FIRECROTCH PUSSYDO IT FOR DUNK MILADY
>>2180815524th
>>218081528>tranny gets killed by qt bio woman witchhope its true.
>>218081577I hate having to defend HotD because they deserve a lot of critisicm, but they did get fucked in Season 2They had written 10 episodes but because of the writers strike, but HBO reduced them to 8, and then the writers strike made it literally illegal for them to alter the scripts in any wayIt was either 8 episodes of build up to a climax that didn't exist or no showWe were supposed to get a full 10 episodes, they legitimately got fucked by having the climax taken away from a season of build up.Again this doesn't excuse their shit writing, wouldn't fix blood & cheese etc. But they did get fucked.
>>218081528Ever since the whore Alicent sold out her son, I've lost all my love for her. Aerion villainmogs both Rhaenyra and Alicent because atleast he fought to the end like a man.
>>2180815523 episodes for the blacks to get to KL? Jfc thats 3 hours of screentime, the blackwater took 40 minutes
>>218081624Alicent is hilarious in the books. It's unbearable what they've done to her
>>218081528>oak to kill the triarchy captainbased tranny slayer>alicent mourns jace's deathyup. this show is done for. they learnt nothing from S2's backlash
>>218081621>and then the writers strike made it literally illegal for them to alter the scripts in any wayLAND OF THE FREE!
I HATE RYAN CONDALI HATE RYAN CONDALI HATE RYAN CONDALI HATE RYAN CONDALI HATE RYAN CONDALI HATE RYAN CONDALI HATE RYAN CONDAL
I think I'm coming back when the last episode of Dunk comes out, not interested in dragon carpet munchers.
>>218081199>The Stranger and his aspects like the Drowned God, R'hllor (w/e its spelt) etcI'm just a showlet who's watched a handful of jewtube lore vids. But it seems to me that nearly all the crazy supernatural shit that happens is directly adjacent to the oceans or other water. The Wall is made of ice, and stretches a narrow part of the map between to oceans. The Citidel, also built by Bran the Builder and also directly by the sea. Melisandra's blood rituals are done along the coast. We see the faceless man and his magic in Bravos, a coastal canal city. Valyria were islands, directly surrounded by the ocean, same with Dragonstone. Quarth, the city of wizards is another coastal city. Harrenhall and all its curses are by the largest lake in Westeros. There is 100% something to the idea that the it's all being done by the same deity
>>218080781Blame the pole they hired to do art for the The The Rise of the Dragon: An Illustrated History of the Targaryen Dynasty book, this is from an official source.
>>218081552>rhaenyra spares alicentno no no no. death to sarah hess and ryan condal
>>218081309>i wonder where they’re goingNowhere, it's a Hess show. They will do nothing and then the season will end.
>>218081621Even if they’d had those additional two episodes, they wasted so much runtime in season 2 cycling through the same scenes, having council sessions where both sides were seemingly still unsure whether they were even at war, and it felt like the war was strictly limited to the Crownlands and parts of the Riverlands (because they for some fucking reason refuse to do a Reach / Hightower plotline).I won’t even mention all the gaping plot holes / fan-fiction moments.
>>218081528>>218081552>they're making Aemonds motivations to the prophesy/dagger/white walkersomg lmao
>>218081679People need water to live and live near it.
>>218081566That cannot be real.
>>218081391They were evil before the showrunners got their hands on them
>>218081679isn't there a fan theory that one of the battles along the shores of God's Eye functions as a blood sacrifice?
>>218080879Correct
>>218080979unfortunately not the only thing that got into his head that day
>Daemon travels to the Riverlands and meets Oscar Tully and Black Aly. He rallies the Riverlords.Noooo pls no more rallying the riverlords
>>218081571Of course it isn't canon, grrm hasn't made a spherical map of the world
>>218081701perhaps, but how many feats of magic happened at The Twins, or other inland locations?
>>218081566bro what the fuck is that episode 6 and 7. just make R34 porn at this point.
>>218081528>the hammer will overthrow the dragonlmao the absolute level of writing
>>218081688ahh okay
>>218081727I want more comfy Harrenhall renovations.
>>218081720refrain from posting this kinslaying scum in our threads saar
>>218081566>Celtigar proposes a heavy tax policy>alicent advises against it>rhaenyra listens to Alicent>it's enacted behind her backholy fuck these fucking niggers truly unreal
>>218081466i already am missing dunk and egg and look forward to seeing them both again in a year and they aren't even gone yetbut seeing allicent and rhaenyra again...
>>218081528>Alicent mourns jaces deathMore than she did for her grandchild.
>>218081727weren't they sufficiently rallied by the end of last season?
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>>218081744That's literally on a river. Anyway, Dany's dragons were born in the desert.
>>218081566I hope this is real.
>>218081528>>218081552I love how this show made the dance go from a semi-obscure aspect of the setting with fun little meme discourse surrounding it into complete dogshit surrounded by the hysterical screeching and rancid bickering of female twitter stans.>>218081557How does planetos not fall over when all the weight is concentrated on the eastern hemisphere?
>>218081566>Rhynaera and Alicent kiss>Myssaria witnesses this intimacy from the shadows
>>218081637I like the two evil queens way more than the shit we got, the "actually, we're the good girls and it's the MEN who cause all the troubles" is so fucking gay.
>>218081727Your Riverlords? Unrallied It's over, the Blacks have fallen
How the HELL did Alys Rivers blow up a man’s head with magic ??????
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>>218081805Have hated this casting for Daemon from the very beginning, he looks so bad. I hate that he has a massive following of brainwashed tumblr veterans who think he’s attractive and keep him in the business.
>>218081528>>218081552>>218081566Even if fake the fact that this is completely plausible within the level of writing quality of season 2 is awful. Someone put this show out of its misery.
No wonder George washing his hands of this shit. The Rhaenyra whitewash is so fucking insane.
>rhaenyra spares alicent>rhaenyra makes alicent special consul>alicent "protects" innocent rhaenyra from her evil council's tax plan>rhaenyra and alicent make outDEATH TO SARAH HESS AND RYAN CONDALDEATH TO SARAH HESS AND RYAN CONDALDEATH TO SARAH HESS AND RYAN CONDALDEATH TO SARAH HESS AND RYAN CONDAL
>>218081815Hope you guys enjoy Orange is the New Black medieval edition seasons 3.
>>218081842they're 100% real. I can tell.
>>218081815>>Rhynaera and Alicent kiss>>Myssaria witnesses this intimacy from the shadows
>>218081566>Rhaenyra cucks Mysariah-hot...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I FUCKING HATE HOTD SO MUCH
George and Miyazaki are both different in that the former takes forever while the latter rushes everything to completion.George and Miyazaki are both alike in that they allow retarded dipshits to make horrible adaptations of their work.
>>218081831Big rock from the battlements no jutsu.Peakes confirmed to be descended from Alys Rivers.
>>218081679Someone said (probably some YouTube channel I've seen) said Lovecraft influenced GRRMs writing. I never read Lovecrafts books but I do kond of rember their Old Ones? Live in oceans and they're malevolent, which reinforced my thought that Earthos only had either vile gods or only one god.
HOTD fucked my wife and took my children
>Rhaenyra shocks the Small Council by bringing Alicent into the chamber and naming her"Special Advisor to the Queen." The Council is outraged. Factions begin to fracture Rhaenyra's support base.Woooow, what dogshit writing>Lord Celtigar proposes a heavy new tax policy.Finally we’re fulfilling George’s vision
>>218081679>oh neat, i never noticed thatGRRM probably when confronted with this
>these leaksAAAAAAAAAAAAA
stupid fucking men always trying to raise taxesthank god women keep us safe from their stupidity
The biggest crime is that HotD could have retconned all the awful seasons of the actual show. They had the perfect opportunity to fix a lot of things that the original got wrong.
Ahem, fellow anonsReminder that Daeron “the Daring” Targaryen in the show IS LITERALLY BEING PLAYED BY AN FTM TRANNY (or pooner as they say in the business)
Does Ryan have a fucking grudge against Martin and ASOIAF to make such garbage?
>>218081834he's a strong, maekar?
Mysaria is going to kill Helaena probably
>>218081679Dragons come from the sea >>218067145
The books>Women should never be in power. Every time they get a sniff of it, they abuse it, use it to settle grudges and destroy everything that men build. The Show>Men are EVIL NAZIS. Women just want to fly dragons to places where they can heckin' eat cake!
>>218081606wtf is this tyland adventure?
>2 queen besties just trying to be baddies together but the men around them keep fucking everything up>Mysaria turns against Rhaenrya because she sees her kissing Alicent
>>218081919He stopped listening to George. He’s a total fucking asshole. Never forget that he said he hates white people. He also cut Nettles. Does he even like black people?
>>218081919Wherever he is he must subvert
>>218081606>>218081566These leaks are retarded enough to be plausible.
>>218081773its probably fake but the sad part is that it could happen
>>218081557what a waste of time watching this was
>>218081885looks like the series ending is confirmed to be both of them running away to essos lesbo movie style
>>218081938This is why Elden Ring is so funny to me. George and Miyazaki are both massive feminists and according to that world only women are truly smart, truly strong, and can “birth” civilization, as well as end it. I’m serious too. Women are pound for pound superior to the men in that world. No man was smart enough to see the moon apparently. Lmaooo.
Who is worse, Dumb and Dumber or Gaydall and Piss?
>>218081807>That's literally on a river.That's my point. It's only in the oceans/seas and the Gods Eye. Not just anywhere people are, and it's a coincidence that people live by water. Also she received the eggs in Pentos, a coastal trade hub(maybe a stretch, but whatever)
>niggas getting mad at fake leaks for a fanfiction show
Ryan Condal, hear me out. I am willing to overlook the shit writing and start praising the show if you put in an explicit Rhaenyra / Alicent sex scene onscreen with Alicent fingering Rhaenyra.These are my terms.
>>218080987What would you have her do?
Oh god, we now miss D&D.
>>218081978if this leaks are real, gaydall and piss and is not even close
>>218081978latter. even without recency bias, got held strong for four seasons. this has gone to show in less than 20% of its runtime
>>218081977> No man was smart enough to see the moon apparentlyNow that you point it out =\
>>218081978Depends if Rhay Rhay forgets about the Triarchy fleet
Alicent sort of has a lot going on in her life right now for me to believe she’s suddenly want to experiment in lesbianism
>>218081978DD had to work with unfinished products. Condall ruined a finished story for his own biases.
>>218082009>>218082011Counter: GoT had 4 actual books to use, HOTD only has shitty fire and blood not even properly written by gurm
>>218081983they're literally too perfectly retarded to not be written by these showrunners
>>218082038these niggas couldn't even follow that.
>>218082038I'm sorry but no that's no excuse when you completely ignore the hotd material just to force the gay bullshit they are doing.
>>218082038Honestly Fire and Blood should have never been adapted
>>218082064Anon it would have been easy. It’s just we got retards at the helm.
>reads the hotd leaksi forgive ira parker for the shit, fart, arlan of penistree,"a knight who remembers his vows", and rafe flashbacki am honestly sorry and wish him luck in season 2
>>218081815my reaction exactly and I'm not even a tranny
>>218081977Except everything in ER went to shit because of the woman in power throwing a temper tantrum after her daughter commite fratricideMiyazaki and GRRM are onto something
>>218081978DD actually made some good scenes on their own, like the Robert's five vs one scene and, unlike George, accepted that a 13 year old girl (Dany) was being raped by Drogo (George said it wasn't rape, because he is a peadophile). I don't think these pair of mongs have made any good original content.
>>218082089Did you just ignore the rest of the post, moron?
>>218081978D and D were goood and decent when they cared and had source material
>>218082049>>218082052I agree but D&D was inventing shit like Jaime and Bronn going to Dorne or 20 GOOD MEN so it's not so different. HOTD's biggest problem was basing the show entirely on Alicent when in reality she becomes irrelevant pretty much when Viserys dies. Now they are stuck with it and keep creating tumblr fanfic
>>218082031In her defense she got widowed in her what, late 30s and she cbf with moon tea and actually liked cunnilingus I guess.
>>218081920nobodies got PLAGUE!
>>218082075kek
Elden ring is so cringeA woman barges into a man’s science club, declares space to be gay, bans the astronomy, demonstrates how much smarter she is to the men, and makes moon worship the official status symbol BRAVO Miyazaki your feminist Wiccan wife must be so proud
>>218082096Yes, I did.
>>218082101The shitty Jaime and Bronn sucks but is not as bad as Rhaenna and the coronation scene or the meeting between alicent and rhaenrya or the whole riverlands thing during s2 or aemond and aegon
>>218082116>Elden ringthe worst works of both GRRM and Mistubishi
So which of these brilliant scenes triggered GRRMs blogpost where he disowns the series? I’m thinking Alicent made special adviser
>>218082073It's a barebones story not told in traditional format with very little dialogue to lift out and with a lot of big set pieces which is fatal for modern showmakers. D&E should have been done after GoT but it left a bad taste and they for some reason wasted time with Bloodmoon OC
Honestly, the most cringe thing that the TV shows have established is that riding on the back of a dragon screaming "DRACARIS!!!!" so loud that the people on the ground can hear you is how you make dragons breathe fire.It's like some harry potter shit.
RxA trannies are trying to derail the thread by making it about elden ring
>>218082145removing that kid triggered grrm nad ryan ignoring his calls
>>218082116Rennala is an idiot. She sold her faction. She kicked out the two wizards smarter than her.
>>218082132The whole DLC of Hornsent being bodyhorror rape cannibals and causing Marika/Ragadon fleshmeld to do what she did was kino.
ASOIAF is way better when there's no dragons, D&E and GoT S1 are the best asoiaf seasons for a reason.
>>218082170This. For some reason Condal didn’t like all the truly awful and brutal and gory stuff. He also seems to think his changes are better or just more suitable. He never should have been allowed at the helm.
>>218082193agreed
>>218082193> ASOIAF is way better when there's no dragonsWrong. The dragons just suck in the show. They’re too serpent like and oddly unnaturally colored in the books to adapt properly to the screen. They’re just “grrr stereotypical dragons” in the show.
>>218082193Honestly S1 works so well because it's basically just a thriller.
>>218081938Also the show:>AAAAAGH! EVERYTHING IS BAD NOW! THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN TO ME! I'M A STRONG INDEPENDANT WOMAN IN POWER!!!It's always hillarious when virtue signalers end up undermining their arguments because they don't know when to shut the fuck up
>>218082193>dragonswyverns*
>>218082193Absolutely and it looks stupid on screen
What is the cooldown for Daemon’s Rally special ability on the battle map?
The dragons should have been smaller. That’s my only gripe. You basically have to assume magic is a higher dimensional force “lifting” them up or something. In its absence they shrivel and shrink and lose their ability to fly and breathe fire. Coincidence? I think not. It’s clear they need magic for their biology to even function.
>>2180822542 years
is there a correlation between dragons dieing out and Targaryens becoming more magical/more dreamers
>>218082255I mean. Yes. Magic is clearly some sort of game or joke in this world. Anything that’s capable of reinforcing religion and hocus pocus is not unintelligently deigned.
>>218082193ASOIAF is better when there’s no shitty cgi
>>218082289Magic is tied to dragons, period. Magic is what allows dragons to even exist.
>>218082291Anything that’s capable of causing seasons to last literal years without any sort of drastic change to life or the environment is surely lol’ing right about now
>>218082309True. The White Walker plot line is honestly pretty boring. I wish the whole thing was basically like real history but in a made up world, with no actual magic
Planetos is a world originally wracked by foul otherworldly forces from the stars. It destroyed one of their two moons. Left in the waters aberrant things.
>>218082316Magic isn't fucking real. They're genetic abominations created by the Valyrians who could still use advanced remnant technology from before the long night. Or are you seriously going to argue that planetos has been stuck in the medieval period for thousands of years?
>>218082193Yeah, the Fire Wyverns and Time Travel actually drag down the whole setting. All the other magic is fine and enriches it, but those two things are a killer.
>>218082193For the most part that's true, but the Vhagar, Sunfyre, Meleys fight in HOTD season 2 was one of the best parts of that show. >>218082217This desu.
>>218082355The only good bit with white walkers is that one shot of the boy with the empty eyes sockets. That was pretty spooky
More lesbian kissing?
>>218082362They have a war or a disaster every other week plus an infinitely smaller population than the real world. Of course they can't produce any advancement for shit.
>>218082397And we haven't?
>>218082332Are season really just random lengths?I always asumed that they meant it like how we have a bunch of colder years and then we might have some hotter years, but the season still warm up and cool down and they re just warmer or colder than previous years.
nothing in the leaks about helaena's death. are they moving it to S4?
>>218081997Just because I took a shit yesterday doesn’t make the shit I took today any less of a shit. What came before with Dumb and dumber was still shit there’s just more of it now with condom.
>>218082383that's the only time they were ever really scary. I never understood why they went with the goofy muppet design. even the weird savage look from the very first scene of season 1 was better
>>218082362> Magic isn't fucking realLow iq statement; what is magic to you?>genetic abominations The Valyrians called that blood magic > are you seriously going to argue that planetos has been stuck in the medieval period for thousands of years?See >>218082291 and >>218082332
>>218080902>Didn't try to rape her even if it was implied earlier he had jungle feverWhat was his problem?
>>218082397>thousands of years have passed>hundreds of wars>only managed to develop crossbowsThat's the only part that's unrealistic, they should at least have guns by now
>>218082418Yeah like a rule of thumb is a long summer is followed by a long winter but they’re random. Winter can be a year or it can be three years and once every few decades or so you might get a five year winter
There could be secret alien tech under the sands of Egypt, that we could detect using our own technology, but the world will still pretend it doesn’t exist because it doesn’t actually want to shake the boat in its current contentment.Humans don’t actually want to know the truth if it upsets them.
>>218082457To close to warhammer, the fat man would have been sued.
>>218082437Magic is advanced technology or considering how obsessed George was about writing mental powers, that too. Magic literally does not fucking exist in ASOIAF. It's all mental manipulation through sensory deprivation and "glass candles", some sort of advanced technology. GoT is part of the Thousand Worlds universe.
lmao at the leaks. So glad I bailed before s2e01
>>218081660I fucking hate costuming in these series.The time between the different series allowed them to lay around with different fashions. We could have had 12th century attire in hotd but instead it's all the same vaguely medieval fantasy shit. A barbute during the dance? I shit in their mothers' wombs
>>218082488> Magic is advanced technology or considering how obsessed George was about writing mental powers, that too.Some would call that magic > Magic literally does not fucking exist in ASOIAFLow iq response; what is magic to you?> It's all mental manipulationSome would call that magic; in the world of the occult it’s just the standard > and "glass candles", some sort of advanced technologyOkay so magic; the idea that magic isn’t a part of nature is a very modern take
>>218082478he could've made it like magic gunpowder is needed for the guns to work or some shit. A rare mineral dust only collected in Dorne and that's the only way to fend off dragons idk.
>More leaks your grace?
>>218082514It's American renaissance fair costuming >>218082523HOW CAN YOU BE THIS FUCKING RETARDED
>>218082332>"No, let's wait another 2 years before we turn the sun back on. This is just starting to get good, lol"
>>218082545Or it could only be found in some ruthless desert island that all the factions are fighting over. It could even be home to some sort of sand worm
>>218082545Some special dust in the desert? To close to dune, that's 2 lawsuits already.
>>218082569Gotta wait for the ice spiders to show up
>>218082591AS BIG AS HOUSE
>>218082574>>218082582GOD FUCKING DAMNIT EVERY IDEA IT'S DONE ALREADY
The reason we don't have guns in asoiaf is because George is a fucking hack obsessed with Ivanhoe. The moment guns appeared in Europe everyone, especially knights, used cannons and guns. But nooooooo, we have a world perpetually stuck in the medieval ages for thousands of years just so that George can continue (lying to myself that he writes) writing his dogshit Targ family history.
>>218082622It's an even bigger missed shot than that - there was a period of a century where people who adopted guns faster won against the people who adopted guns slower. There's a lot of material there for a dramatic TV show.
>>218082622my headcanon is that the Westeros timeline roughly aligns with ours (give or take a few hundred years) and all the "House Stark is 8000 years old!" bullshit is just a lie made up by those in power
>>218082564Anon. One could argue that magic can’t actually exist in fiction outside of the mind’s eye, since there will always be some “no it’s not magic” angle to it. Magic is an angle. I’m just using logic here. Magic is a bar. The elves in Lord of the Rings are cases of sufficiently advanced tech/art is indistinguishable from magic. They don’t see themselves as magical beings. Only men and hobbits do. Their innate abilities is just like breathing to them. It’s not special. Meanwhile Gandalf is one step higher than the elves on the racial totem pole, and as such the elves look to the wizards (basically alien sages sent down to guide their lessers) the sage way men and hobbits look to the elves. The wizards go out of their way to don the pointy hats and play the part of the sage/magician. They don’t chalk it up to anything other than “I know things you don’t know—I can do things you can’t do” while Sauron (technically the same race as the wizards) abuses ignorance to form crap like religion, cults and memetic fear. The horrors of physics also leads to bad things. Gandalf uses blackpowder to make beautiful fireworks. Saruman uses it in warfare, for bombs. Saruman uses industry (the machines of Mordor are likened to sorcery) to destroy the earth. The artifice of the elves is in tune with nature in contrast. Tolkien very much made a distinction between the perception of magic and the actual substance of magic. Without the former the latter isn’t actually seen as magic.
rereading AFFC slowly I realized Jaime will kill Cersei after she orders Kings Landing being burned down, essentially he will do the same thing he did with the Mad King. He will save the city twice and be kinslayer and kingslayer, twice cursed
>>218081978HOTD started fucking with the material right awayGOT stayed fine when there was book material to adapt and only went badly off the rails after they had to start doing OC, but HOTD started race swapping major characters and doing completely retarded shit basically right away even though the story was already written and they could have simply followed the material
>>218082622Did you know that black powder was actually discovered eight hundred years earlier than anticipated? Also in China? Nobody did anything with it. I’m serious. It’s a lot harder to implement something into society than you realize.
>>218082697Nah brah He's going to light the torches himself, and then turn to the reader and quip >the things I do for love ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>218082622Do we even get any siege weapons? Siege towers? Trebuchets? Proper rams? Catapults? We only get ballista because muh dragons
>>218082676Yes, I am familiar with how Tolkien viewed magic. That's why it's frustrating that people genuinely believe that asoiaf is some simple fantasy story with wizards, dragons and good knights. Martin is a sci-fi guy, he's reused so many characters, locations and abilities from previous stories. Especially hive-minds and people being manipulated with visions. But no, people just keep repeating R+L=J, magic and prophecy is real etc.Great post btw, thanks for taking the time to write such a well thought out post.
>>218081566where does this shit come from? but they can be real
>>218082762Yes, trebuchets and catapults are mentioned frequently in the books. They used trebuchets during the Battle of the Blackwater.
>>218082773Oh yeah the Antler Men subplot, all part of Littlefinger's master plan...
>>218082721Yes, they mostly used it for fireworks and simple guns. But I believe I've read that gunpowder straight up can't be made in asoiaf according to George.
>>218082705Nah. You just enjoyed the show then without reading the books. And I don't blame you, it was easy.Showrunners went full retard with their OC and "vision" since season 2.They didn't dare too much in season 1 because they didn't have the confidence yet.
>>218082622kinda sad, because seeing a westerosi version of early industrialization would be pretty kino.>The great houses create ancesteral guns, emblazoned with their sigils, and handed down like family treasures>Cities and keeps create an arms race, trying to build the biggest most destructive defensive canons>peasants and poor villages using wooden log canons(that commonly explode and kilol themselves)>Economy becomes re-aligned to value steal and coal even more than rare metals like silver>massive foundries enslaving thousands of bastards and smallfolk, belching dark clouds of smoke>Devincian tanks and other weird war machines mowing down men by the hundreds
>>218082796Forgot pic. This was the tipping point for me, when i realized the writers didn't care / didn't understand the source material.
>>218081725kek
>>218082765> That's why it's frustrating that people genuinely believe that asoiaf is some simple fantasy story with wizards, dragons and good knightsIt is> Martin is a sci-fi guyHe has said before that he treats science fiction as just another variant of fantasy; the wizard in science fiction is literally just the mad scientist; you don’t need explicit words like wizard or magic to evoke the exact same sensation or air or essence Often the capital-w wizard won’t even see themselves as such; they’re far too transcendent or humble; their bar for magic is different or inverted (they’d sooner see why a thing is seen as magic in the first place) and they’d have to go out of their way (like Gandalf) to play the part of the wizard, and words like “spells” or “magic” are closer to descriptions than definitions (nature is certainly “magical”), and this is often why “magic” is seen as more magical than Magic(TM). There will always be something lying at the edges. To wonder at. To inspire mystery. That’s magic. The sensation a biologist feels when they confront a new form of deep sea life. The same words may not be used, but it’s the same essence. They just don’t let their imaginations run wild.
>>218082841> They just don’t let their imaginations run wild.Religion really is indistinguishable from stage magic logic. Looking to the stars and considering them gods is no different from accusing some funny old man of being a wizard. The more alien the more magical.
>>218082797FUND IT There is a real audience for this. Even if they don't have that much creativity as anon just posted, this aesthetic is ready to make a big impact.
>>218082676>>218082841This makes alot of sense.Like explain how a magnet works, that shit is just magic.
>>218082887
>>218082622if grrm wasn't a retard we'd have a republic by book 4 and a space program by book 5
What’s wrong with HOTD? Is it because they’re not using the source material?
>>218082901I call it witchcraft because it's always woman that do it.Vile crones, on the pyre with them.
>>218082887Yeah I laugh at zoomers for thinking their phones aren’t magic when they can’t even explain to me how they work. It‘a only “not magic” in the second hand sense because it’s so commonplace.
>Heir to the dynasty of the oldest houses in Westeros marries a ran down commoner from a foreign continent.This is something that could not happen in the setting Martin wrote. It's so stupid they went with this, and early sign of bad things would become.
>>218082908The hive will never forget
This is the essence of magic
>>218082923Firsthand* sense
As soon as Valyrians are deported from Westeros, they will undergo their major industrial revolution. By 400 AC, the Lord Protector, one Lord Hightower, will be sending ships out to colonise new lands and bring the resources of the world into Westeros, to fuels its mighty industry, by 500 AC the internet will be widely used across the planet, and Valyrians will make their return, creating Andal Guilt and demanding Westeros open its borders to Ashai, Sothyros, Ib and The Summer Isles as recompense for past crimes.
>>218082923how do phones work?
>>218082908He won't bee forgotten.
>>218082927Marrying a foreigner in itself would get you constantly ragged on by everybody, even if she was from an extremely rich / well-bred family. She would never be properly accepted by the Westerosi women that were her peers, even if she had all the social graces and familial wealth to be a peer.But marrying a foreign COMMONER? That's beyond scandalous. That shit gets you disowned.
>>218082977https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eEbZA8cNpnU&pp=ygUTTWljcm9wcm9jZXNzb2Ugem9vbdIHCQmHCgGHKiGM7w%3D%3D
>>218083003seems like magic to me unc
“Magic is a black box that is white within.”
>>218083017Racist
>>218082991In real life, nobles married foreign nobles all the time. They'd just have to be of similar prestige and rank.
>>218082882Just wait until season 3, when the Maesters decide to dig out their recipe for "really cool home-made crystals"
>>218082830but did that start affecting things negatively right away? maybe the damage was limited due to them getting killed off anyway
Anyone who doesn’t think magic exists in westeros must be retarded
>>218083104The point is magic is relative. Whatever is behind the magic probably doesn’t look at it that way. Magic is a rickety ladder of ignorance. Some are higher or lower. Melisandre fools her onlookers much like how she’s fooling herself. R’hllor could be a wizard abusing a glass candle, sending her visions the same way green seers send dreams and act the part of the old gods. It’s soft implied that Valyrians manipulated religion too.
>>218082908
>>218083104Magic is just super high tech because it's a post apocalyptic sci fi setting
Magic exists the same way cold, or darkness, exists. A hole isn’t anything.
>>218083104You mean the people living in Westeros?
>>218083124>Whatever is behind the magic probably doesn’t look at it that wayThis just makes me think of the Wizard of Oz, which seems sorta on point.
>>218083162Curtains behind curtains behind curtains.
>>218081391> taking the show seriouslyEven the "good guys" they try to force into our throats murder hundreds of innocent civilians in stupid shows of power or even sell their children to the enemy because they happen to be lesbian or something...I can't even trick my mind into giving a fuck about HotD after the disaster of s02 (at most, I will just see the scene of the bitch getting eaten alive on YouTube once it releases and laugh , and that's if they have the decency of not ruining the scene).
They’re gonna regret not making the Velaryons white at the outset, cause they’re going to shriek when Aegon, Daeron and Baelor are fully white.
Someone use AI to make Jaehaerys vs Braxton Beesbury please
>>218083252why must you see another bee die
>>218083192>ayo dese niggers lightskinned af
>>218083276He was a bad bee
>>218083252George told me the only reason Braxton lost was because he was holding back in a big way and didn't really want to hurt the King
>>218083338Suuure
>>218083307>He was a bad bee>exposed how much of a whore the king's daughter was which led to her disinheritance
>>218083192>They’re gonna regret not making the Velaryons white at the outset, cause they’re going to shriek when Aegon, Daeron and Baelor are fully white.Viserys I and Daemon should be blacker than Aegon, Daeron and Baelor according to Condomverse black velaryons.Assuming Unknown Wife and such are matched, and assuming the Masseys or whatever also aren't black.
>>218083366
>>218083044Not in very large kingdoms. The Seven Kingdoms is a whole continent, so going out of your way to marry a foreigner is snubbing a LOT of local families.
>>218080900Hey Reddit
>>218082663I can see all the legends in westeros "happening" around the irl equivalent of the epic of gilgamesh getting released (so 2200-2100 BC), with aegon's conquest being 1066, the dance being the anarchy and the wot5k being the wars of the roses (though it should technically be 400 years after aegon's conquest, not 300) but you get the idea
If the Beesburys got a Royal Marriage, the wife could be called The Queen Bee. Just a thought.
>>218082663Yeah, even in real life when they tried King Charles I he was saying shit like his family has rule England for two thousand years.
>HAS THREAD MAKING DESERTED THE NOBLE CATALOGS OF /TV/? I WILL NOT BELIEVE IT IS SO!>ARE THERE NO TRUE BAKERS AMONG YOU????
>>218083348
>>218083501BRAP
>>218083384"What about irl?"
>>218083567Wish they cut this whole thing
>>218083567LMAO
>>218083384It just doesn't make any sense. You can't just have one noble family that has been black for hundreds of years, these families all marry into each other. It would result in half the nobility being brown mullatos or the Valeryons being extremely pale skinned themselves.
how many knights have wanted to fuck dunk
>>218083626But George said it was fine for them to be black.
Weird this general dies the day the entire plot of S3 Hotd leaks
>>218083660how many knights want to be fucked by Dunk?
>>218083684yes
>>218083660like 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MJ4AsqmHso
>>218081528>Aegon and Viserys both in PentosWhat the fuck? Does that mean little Aegon wont get to witness his mother's death? Literally THE defining moment of his life? The reason why he became Dragonbane?
>>218083727wait, whos pov is this? is aerion the boss or the player
>>218083765Aerion is the player. He just fucked up by activating the 'Hedge Knight' boss.
>>218083612he did cut it - the cheese, that is
>>218083754that doesnt matter, the show is not going for that long
>>218081494Thanks Egg... You're doing great
>>218083791What do you mean the show is not going long enough to portray the fucking death of Rhaenyra?
>>218083626Yeah it gets really dumb if you look at it a bit closer.If the Velaryons didn't marry at all with other houses, then maybe you could make it believable that there's this one group of black valyrians that also existed, but it doesn't work the way these lineages are arranged, even within the first season of hotd.
>>218083814it could be cancelled after this season but I mean aegons experiences are irrelevant the show is not going to touch that part
>>218083778>boss music startshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TqzulMw4d0&list=LL&index=26>phase 2
>>218083841Aegon the Elder making the Younger watch her mom get eaten alive by Sunfyre is arguably the hardest hitting moment of Dance. That's an even bigger fuck up than Blood and Cheese if they don't have him in that scene.
>>218083872his mom*
The HOTD leaks are to be fake. I refuse they took two years to wrote such crap>Rhaenyra still whitewashed AND stupiwashed (the whole taxes raised behind her back leaks, putting Alicent above all her council)>Mysarya betraying her because she went full femcel over Rhaenyra prefering Alicent >Daeron being little more that a plot device (they clearly wanted to cut him but they couldnt)>Daemon STILL rallying the Riverlords>Aemond dropping the war to focus on the goddamn dagger sidequest and hints that the fucking Aemond Whent schizo theory is real>Chud King Aegon II doing litterally nothing aside wandering around Woods. Sunfyre showed a single episode>Greens losing every battle, running out of dragons, still somehow pushed as a Menace>Tayland's Bizzare Essos Adventures: Season 2 (just because they couldnt write a way to torture him in KL without making Rhaenyra clueless of It)
>>218083821Unless skin colour works like eye and hair colour, where say a white father and black mother have completely white children.But that would be even more silly.
>>218082622Kettle helm, gonne and a flail for me.
>>218083872at this point I don't think that's going to happen
>>218083895>Greens losing every battle, running out of dragons, still somehow pushed as a MenaceThey are actually losing the war at that point thoughThe real menace have always been the smallfolk
>>218082797Which kingdom does Zizka come from in this version?
>>218083930>Kettles mentioned
>Page 10AHHHHHH
>>218083754Hes the plot device to explain how the Green eventually caught them (and to cut yet another evil Rhaenyra act)
>>218083949They still won battles, both in the Riverlands and on the Reach. But they got all cut, including the phase where the Dragonseed switched on them, giving the Greens a brief dragon supremacy
>>218082488>GoT is part of the Thousand Worlds universe.They will hate you for speaking the truth. >>218082762>Do we even get any siege weapons? Siege towers? Trebuchets? Proper rams? Catapults? We only get ballista because muh dragonsGurrm mentions siege towers once or twice, and reveals that he's completely retarded on the matter. Gurrm belives that siege towers are constructed at home base and are then rolled like a car on the roads for weeks and months until they reach the castle they want to siege. That's one of the explanations for why Renly's army is so small.
>>218083926>Unless skin colour works like eye and hair colour, where say a white father and black mother have completely white children.I remember someone proposing that maybe it could work like that to get around such problems for warcraft.I think with live action, everyone's just gonna say "oh he's not the father", when they see that, it's too much for most peoples suspension of disbelief.In non-live action maybe you could make the people look a lot closer in other ways than just skin color so it could work.
>>218083871>I didn't hear no bell Aerion's face is priceless.
HOTD?more like hot fucking piece of trash
>>218080998>What's the most convincing evidence for the existence of the Seven?It was cut off from the show, actually.In the most important scene "a knight who remembers his vows" Dunk was blessed by the Seven themselves
What's the takeaway message of the Dance? That Targs are evil retards and, faced with a situation where they destroyed their own house and dragons and basically lost all their own power, their vassals STILL supported their kids as kings and helped re-build the house when any number of people could have just done a power grab?
>>218084015>>218084015>>218084015
>>218080998Along with what the other anons said, people also fucking love to do the whole diety walking among men to guide the protag along. We've seen at least 3 people who are guaranteed to be indirect or direct embodiments of them in Akotsk. The Warrior was Robin Rhysling, and likely was there to directly judge the trial. Its why he's able to hold off likely 2 kingsguard at the same time. We see the crone tell egg and dunk their futures. And Pate is indirectly one of the seven. He's not like a physical embodiment but he's there to help guide along Dunk
>>218084002saved kek
>>218084006The whole Dance its a elaborated plot device used by Martin to justify Robert's Rebellion not ending within minutes and to explain why Dany ressing the dragons is a big deal. Dont overthink it
>>218082420Maybe they'll wait till the Dragonpit stuff
>>218084022All of the seven champions assembled for Dunk represent one of the seven. Baelor is the Father, Beesbury is the Crone, Raymun is the Mother, Lyonel is the Smith, Harding is the Stranger, Rhysling is the Warrior, and Dunk is the Maiden.
>>218083895I just hope they change how Daeron dies in the show. His book death is some bullshit.
