ferengi tricks editionpreviously on /trek/ >>218071211
star trek sex with shran
>>218087846>12 secondsimpressive...
Why are Bolians allowed to have a bank. What's so special about those blue skinned baldy freaks?
>>218087799Gene just fucked every woman near him. Someone walked in on Nichelle Nichols (Uhura) sucking him off in his office. He took two women he was fucking out to dinner once, who didn't know about each other and introduced them to to each other by saying that he didn't know who to pick as he liked them both.
>>218087897greentext a variety of his sexcapades anon
>>218087897Is this why TNG had such a liberal attitude towards relationships and monogamy?
>>218087799Gene isn't in the files for the same reason people like Charlie Sheen and Hunter Biden aren't: Gene was a regular old horndog who liked fucking women consensually
>>218087854Like anything there's two sides to it. Old shows also had writers rooms, they didn't just work off freelancer pitches. Most episodes weren't pitched ones. Also, lots of episodes have shitty b-plots entirely because people had to come up with so many stories per season, but interesting ideas often couldn't sustain a full episode
>Computer, increase the level of advertisement blocking software from Standard to Aggressive.>"Caution: doing so will result in a significant drop in revenue for the owners of the website and will ensure the already underpaid site moderators will continue to receive a minimal amount of financial compensation.">Acknowledged computer, proceed with the increase.
>>218087846I think this one is better.
>>218088020>I will never have a Vulcan wifeWhy even live?
What planet, aside from Earth, would be best to live on? I was always confused about Vulcan, despite being a founding Federation world their planet just looks like barren deserts with the odd building.
>>218087897Roddenberry was a gigachad?
>>218087943>unironically believing Epstein and his friends forcibly raped peopleThey aren’t black so
>>218087842The Federation doesn’t have ads because they don’t have capitalism. Nobody would be able to comprehend how many ads people got blasted with in the 21st century. They’re putting ads on pause screens!
>>218087910I honestly don't know all his sexcapades just the general jist. Gene was a big casting couch guy who was married a few times but also in constant open relationships and engaging prostitutes, he mixed 60s style free love with classic chauvinism and he does sound like a sex addict, pervert and did assault women. It muddies the utopian vision of the show somewhat. A reporter once asked Gene, surely by the 24th century they'd have cured horniness? And Gene replied that by the 24th century they'd have no consent or consequence. He was engaging an affair with his assistant pretty much from 1975 until the end of his life. Majel Barrett, his second wife, was obviously in TOS as Nurse Chapel but also Lwaxana Troi in TNG, literally the horniest character they made. Every time she appeared she lusted after Picard.
>>218087943idk there’s actual pictures of Hunter Biden hot tubing with lolis on the net right now.
>>218087943>>218088067A reporter once asked Gene Roddenberry how he got away with multiple accusations of ‘casting couch’ assault and harassment of actresses. Gene replied “It’s the 20th century, nobody cares.”
>>218087667I want Rios and Shaw to come back as Supervisors, like Gary Seven. It'll be a buddy cop show with Rios as the maverick and Shaw as the crotchety, forever suffering straight-laced cop.
>>218088129> And Gene replied that by the 24th century they'd have no consent or consequenceThis is unironically more enlightened than our current hyper consent and hyper consequence world. The more gravity assigned to sexual acts the more you are acknowledging people (women especially) are commodities which have been assigned value relative to access to their engagement in sexual behavior. It’s regressive. Which was the whole point of the free love movement of the 1960s
>>218088188The problem is, like I said, that his free life was also twinned with classic chauvinism. So as enlightened as it may sound form a conceptual, it really wasn't meant as such by him.
>>218088214Auto correct. *Free love*From a
>>218088129There’s a reason modern Trek has disassociated from Gene as much as possible. No lefty zoomer is going to want a franchise created by every boogeyman of a white dude they’ve been fed their whole lives.
>my best friend died so I'm going to Ibiza on Spring Break to grieve>Jay'den I need you to go with me so I can TURN DAT ASS INSIDE OUTThis was literally, unironically the C plot of the last episode of Starfleet Academy. And yes Jay'den the Klingon was confirmed to be a gay bottom sub in the episode. He takes white boi cock up his rectum. This is canon main timeline Star Trek. This is the fandom you follow.
>>218088020I miss T'Lyn already
>>218088252>fandomDo those still even exist?
>>218088129>Majel BarrettEven her wiki page mentions shit. Pretty funny.>Roddenberry continued to have liaisons with other women, telling his friends that while in Japan, he had an encounter with a masseuse about a week after he was married.
>>218088240Everyone disassociated from Gene because his ideas and demands in his senile years became increasingly kooky and unworkableAlso because of his low key capricious asshole side that they got to experience when he deliberately spread spoilers for Wrath of Khan and Search for Spock out of spite
Who invited stinky nutrek fags in here?
>>218088087Not true at all...internally the federation officially didnt use currency internally but literally everywhere else they openly barter, use latinum and other currency. Not to mention the amount of contraband the officers had throughout the series lol >Real booze>Stolen artifacts>Luxury goodsWhich they all valued much higher than anything replicated.
>>218088159I hate to give credit to PIC but that would actually be fun to watch.
>>218088252buq'Broken
>>218088285Majel was the other woman who got other woman'd.
>>218088252He had to be a best man first. Bros before 'mos. Even rump rangers gotta follow the bro code.
>>21808824090s Trek distanced itself from Gene by having more drama and conflict between the characters in a way Gene didn't want. And stuff like DS9 challenged his vision of the future too.Kurtzman has quoted Gene a bunch and talked about his vision too, in a very lip service way.. I don't think the average fan knows this shit about Gene. NuTrek is simply bad because it took le heckin' wholesome Tumblr fanfic quirkiness combined it with left wing social media faux academic thinking. And when you question it, people go, but Star Trek was always woke and look at these 1-3 examples of dumb silly things that happened in 90s shows, Checkmate. In fact NuTrek defenders will often quote Gene too...
>>218088326I know, I should be in charge of Star Trek.
>>218088423Best I can do is a write in campaign to let Matalas do his thing.
>>218088399I mean Gene was a complicated man. Just because he was a son of a bitch doesn't mean he was wrong about everything.Even drunks can get statues.
>>218088449Fug
>>218088449Matalas has been sent to the Marvel mines for his crimes and frankly, I'm not sure that's punishment enoughThe main thing is he'll never be allowed near Trek again and I'm glad
why didn't sisko just rape dukat?
>>218088530I love Weyoun earlier in that episode>we're going to have to work on improving your public image.
>>218088530>Weyoun just sitting off to the side looking like he's tripping balls from all the poison he just drankkek I love Jeffrey Combs
>>21808839990s trek barely even avoided genetrek guidelines, they avoided alcoholic insane gene but not even his story shit.
>>218088565he was in such a good mood in that episode just really excited to work and meet everyone and stuff. it makes it so funny later on when he's just totally over Dukat and all his shit.
>>218088558He mentally violated Dukat
>>218087842Funny post OP. I lol'd. Not including Rom as Grand Nagus (who I assume got assassinated almost immediately), I much prefer Ferengis and Ferengi culture to that of the gay-ass Federation, psycho-ass Klingons, or loser-ass Cardassians. Ferenginar forever.
>>218088252lollmao even
>>218088129>surely by the 24th century they'd have cured horninessYou wouldn't really need to if you've cured STDs, have zero risk of unwanted pregnancy, and no need for child support.
>>218088254She wasn't a bad vulcan at all really.
>>218088041Probably Bajor if it werent for the fact its full of Bajorans.Others might say Risa but Id never want to live someplace with that climate.
Who is the Epstein of Star Trek? My vote goes to Dukat. Even though he did nothing wrong.
>>218088037Vulcan chan my beloved. Got any more?
>>218088020For me it’s Sakonna. She’s kind of retarded for a Vulcan it’s cute
>>218088695Obviously the Grand Nagus
>>218088252Absolutely Disgusting. I'm glad I don't watch NuTrek.
>>218088666Satanic post, of course, thinks the consequences of casual sex are simply disease and children. Say nothing of psychological consequences. I've become increasingly convinced we're living in a Brave New World "Soma and orgies" dystopia than any kind of 1984 dystopia. Nobody can even fathom, Ford Help Us All, that oversexualization might have actual consequences socially.
>>218088558Because that's gay. And don't prophets don't approve of gay.
>>218088695nobody would trust prostitutes dukat procured for them.>>218088721and nagus would have someone do that for himharry mud literally was a space pimp
>>218088252>This is canon main timeline Star Trek.No it isnt. Thanks to Lower Decks
/tv/, I'm here to relieve you of command of the /tv/prise.
>>218088695
>>218088723
>>218088711Do vulcans have retards? What do they do with them?
>>218088830Yeah they’re called romulans
>>218088830Send them to federation colonies to be sage advisors
>>218088731>oversexualization might have actual consequences sociallyFortunately, AI is already on the verge of surpassing human ability in basically all productive fields, meaning that human interaction is going to become increasingly irrelevant except for entertainment value.
What happened to Pel?
>>218088731if everyone is freeuse we’d all be fucking vanilla and less degenerate/ horny because we don’t have to thrill chase due to scarcity.
Why was Kosst Amojan in Sisko's dream?
They really did my guy dirty
>>218088513You leave Terrence Bearance alone, he was pure of heart and dumb of ass.
>>218088888After the Gamma Quadrant became too dangerous, she returned but underwent surgery to hide as a Romulan.
It makes zero sense for the Federation to not have powered armor. Starfleet security should have armored personnel active on ships during each shift. This isn't debatable.
>>218089062I've been saying this since day one.
>>218088769I need you to relieve some of my urges in my ready room.
People in the 90's were saying the same shit about DS9 as we say about NuTrek. "It's not REAL Star Trek. It's an original idea wearing the Star Trek brand like a skinsuit. Gene would never allow this." Except kids aren't growing up on NuTrek to defend it in the future. >Back in my day we had real shows like Lower Decks and Starfleet Academy!
Sex
>>218089124fuck you
>>218089062Power Armor is retarded, this isn't RIFTS®. TAS already established force field belts exist, and they're much more compact. Phasers are already MDC weapons.
>>218089075They did in The Motion Picture.It looked goofy as shit and they stopped.
>>218089145Using RIFTS rules in a FASA Star Fleet Battles game? Shameful. (or whatever the star trek RPG was called)
>>218089124>People in the 90's were saying the same shit about DS9 as we say about NuTrek. "It's not REAL Star Trek. It's an original idea wearing the Star Trek brand like a skinsuit. Gene would never allow this."This is 100% true, and I was there for that, BUT at least it allowed spec scripts and had more episodes per season so you had the ability to mine for gold. Having 10 episode seasons with an insular writing room locks you into decisions made before the season was even produced so you either get a winner or crap with no chance of course correction mid season. I don't like those odds
>>218089124People completely forget Janeway was despised in her time too and thought by far the worst Captain, lol
>>218089166It's all Modiphius now.
>>218089062How is boarding even real? Just teleport the invaders out the second they teleport in, scramble their data and delete it from the teleport buffer.CTRL+DEL, fuck is the Jem Hadar gonna do about it?
>>218089062They finally introduced basic body armor and tactical gear in current Trek so people aren't going on away missions in their pajamas, that is enough.
>>218089184Transport aboard, take full control, then do the transport switcheroo
>>218089196That would take too long. And you could argue that if there was no way to just magically appear anywhere on the ship you could reinforce and make chokepoints out of the brindge and engineering making boarding even lass of an option.
>>218089018Fucking Federation trannies should have let Worf put him out of his misery. Sisko was really channeling Cuckard in that episode.
>>218089184If I remember right the first time a Jem Hadar transported onto DS9 they instantly put a containment field up around it, which it then casually walked through like it was nothing"Hostile transport inhibitor" seems like a thing that would be up there on the list of things to swiftly invent
>>218089184How does ground warfare even work? Just teleport all their oxygen into space
>>218089145Starfleet officers are constantly being punched or swatted with melee weapons. I don't see them wearing force field belts either. Armor that enhances their physical abilities, defenses and available information makes sense. How many times has Data's super strength or speed come in handy? Obviously the same advantage could easily be given to normal Starfleet officers. >>218089184Yeah and why don't they just manipulate the gravity in an area to restrain intruders? They have demigod level tech in Star Trek.>>218089192It's a start. It's a really unexploited setting, technologically speaking. Their technological level given what we seen should be almost indistinguishable from magic if applied with a bit of thought.
>>218089302I think it’d be cool if they teleported drugs into someone’s brain like during a negotiation so that they respond positively to proposals made by the other party, but not enough that it’s noticeable
I prefer tall women, but as I've gotten older I've grown more appreciation for Ezri. Ignoring the out-of-universe reasons for Jadzia's death, I think it should've happened a season earlier so that all the Ezri episodes weren't crammed into the final seasons.
>>218089287Or replicate a dirty nuke and beam it down.Trek might have the tech to clear radiation but they sure as hell don't have it on hand every time.
>>218089302>Starfleet officers are constantly being punched or swatted with melee weapons. I don't see them wearing force field belts either.Bad writing on Berman Trek's part since the force fields were established. >Armor that enhances their physical abilities, defenses and available information makes sense.A force field enhances physical abilities as a repulsive force can be harnessed to lift, push etc. Think of how a holodeck character can interact with the world. As for sensory input, a HUD tricorder can do it. But hey if you want a STD red angel faggotry thing, that's your right. This could have been done with force field belts much more futuristically. Mecha and Power Armor are for the low fantasy equivalent of scifi. The Federation is easily approaching if not at Kardashev I Territory and can do better.
>>218089290kek, it's kino!
>>218089372>but as I've gotten older I've grown more appreciation for Ezri.Ezri is a better character as someone young under the burden of past lives and a persistent low grade identity crisis. Versus a pass through proxy to Coolest Dead Guy
>>218089372Ezri owed me sex.
>>218089390>A force fieldEnergy inefficient and easily suppressed by dampening fields. >HUD tricorder i.e. a powered armor component. Now you're catching on.>But hey if nutrekBut hey reddit
Thing is sure, you could make it so that a starships main computer instantly responds to boardings (we know they precisely track who is on board, where they are, and when that changes!) with automated defenses of varying strengths but that fact is that's not very interesting story wise, at best you'd just get asspulls as to why the defenses didn't work
>>218089124Atleast DS9 respected the lore and continuity of the previous shows. It fleshed out the Bajorans, Cardassians, the Maquis, Klingons and the Ferengi. It continued the growth of previous characters like Worf, Gowron, and even some TOS Klingons. It continued the conflict between the Maquis, Bajor, the settlers on the Demilitarized zone with Cardassia. The actors were theater actors just as good as Patrick Stewart. It's how we got Garrak and Quark. Nothing after ENT was anything near like that.
>>218089427>Energy inefficient and easily suppressed by dampening fields.You can suppress actual power armor functionality with a dampening field and make all the servos stop working. A force field belt is much less massive so you have a net energy savings. Also a hud tricorder doesn't need a Glitter Boy housing to make it work.
>>218089366This is the kind of stuff Section 31 was probably doing all the time.
I just finished enterprise, it is the best piece of star trek ever, everything else feels either like slop or complete trash in comparison.
>>218089557This type of engagement bait is for twitter, not here.
>>218089577That’s right, not in this dignified place
Holy shit episode 7 is so bad it’s not even funny anymore it’s bad bad, like bad bad bad
>>218089557I liked when Trip got pregnant because he didn't know holding hands makes babies.
>>218087890Was it Bolians or Tholians? Either way, money isn't some abstract concept in the federation. Its just that on earth and in starfleet personal wealth and money mostly isn't needed because they live in a post scarcity society where all their basic needs are provided, a lot of scutwork is made obsolete through technology, and people are largely free to self determine. Anyone who doesn't like it is free to fuck off into the wider galaxy where there is probably a whole planet dedicated to whatever you want that you can't get on earth.Want to get high as fuck, go visit planet Dr'um-Cerkle where the atmosphere is full of hallucinogenic pollen and its just an endless music festival. Want to fuck like a degenerate little piggy? I'm sure Risa is happy to oblige. Want to rape? There's a rape-gang planet. be a criminal, go join the orion syndicate or something. Want to be a greedy megajew, go find some ferengi. But every member of the federation is free to do whatever they want as long as they've met the guidelines of being a warp capable species that has solved most of its major internal problems, and has something to contribute to the federation.
>>218089557I like enterprise, but no one finishes it for the first time feeling good. I don't even hate the last episode, I just hate that it IS the last episode. If it was just a random episode, or even the second-to-last episode it would have been fine.
I think what irritate me about Picard (conceptually, since I only watched little bits of it) was that they gave him all this emotional baggage about being childless or whatever but the memories from the Inner Light probe were supposed to be like a part of him so he should really have an understanding of what it means to have children and watch them grow
>>218089631>mfw he explains to the klingons why he needs to come with them aboard the ship
>>218089461An armor powering joints would use far, far less energy that generating a literal field of force energy, so no it would a lot less susceptible to dampening and it would be many times more efficient energy-wise. A hud tricorder could be as simple as a eye piece like in DS9 but would work best integrated into head protection such as a helmet. Your insults are only making it more obvious that you are floundering.
>>218089691Yeah it is a series that didn’t need to be made in the first place, crafted by executives and writers who suck at their jobs
>>218089461>>218089706Forgot to add but an armor is still useful even if under the effects of a dampening field, the belt would quickly become useless.
>>218087842It was stopping him from watching Starfleet Academy!
>>218089615It's amok time but for people in touch with their feelings >>218089743If it's just armor, sure, but you can't sell me on armor with servos.
>>218089691In that show, he doesn't have baggage from being childless, his problem is he eventually finds out he has a son and is angry and upset that parenthood and seeing them grow up were basically stolen from him by Beverley's selfish choice
>>218089845TNG Picard would have been a shit parent. PIC Picard would have been a shit parent. Irrespective of the continuity, Bev made the right choice.
>>218089894Idek how someone is a good parent in the trek universe. It seems like everyone just tows their kids around on dangerous spaceships and lets them exist as autonomous entities
>>218089062>It makes zero sense for the Federation to not have powered armor.Anon. It was a television show with shoe-string budgets and cardboard sets. Yes, realistically, the federation should be all about biotech and cybernetics. Not to mention that until DS9 you never saw an actual war in space. Hell, you barely even see battles, because the premise of the show is what would happen if you solved all the social issues and set aside old grudges, and everyone worked together, what would it look like. The people in starfleet aren't aliens, they're not robots, they're not even any more highly evolve, they're just 'us' without the petty distraction. If you make everyone borgified genetic supermen then you take away from what it was trying to do. Plenty of other space opera and scifi settings that explore that kind of trans-humanism.
>>218089952Joseph Sisko was a good dad. Tuvok was a good dad.
>>218089952>I'm... sure you are. Starfleet out.oof
>>218089984Giving someone an armor is the same as giving them a phaser gun. It's not transhumanism and it doesn't defeat the point of Star Trek. Also Star Trek shows have massive budgets. Always have.
>>218089894>TapestryPicard is the way he is because he is shaped by his experiences. Notably one of those things is being childless and basically hating children. The TNG episode Tapestry explores this quite well. Maybe Picard could be a good parent if his life unfolded differently, but then he would not be the Picard we are presented with in the show.
it was a sheer fucking fire hazard
>>218089991>Tuvok goes out for space cigarettes>ends up in Delta quadrant with some white bitch
>>218089952>It seems like everyone just tows their kids around on dangerous spaceships and lets them exist as autonomous entitiesFor the most part those are families of starfleet officers, and they have civilians serving on the ship as well. Not to mention they're constantly towing around colonist and transporting federation citizens. And in times of battle, and ships serving in more dangerous roles usually have the families left behind.
>>218089894Picard's issue is basically "I had the right to be given the chance to try"Like some of Bev's choice is understandable especially given what provoked it, but it was still an incredibly selfish and assholish thing for her to do to him
>>218090008When faced with lasers weapons that are so powerful they include molecular vaporization, individual armor is a waste of resources.
>>218090032All his kids were adults and already out of the nest. What he should be worrying about is what his wife did during that ponfar (at least one of the ponfar episodes was a real ponfar).
>>218090066The firstborn son takes care of Ponfar duties during times when the father is absent
>>218090065They are kicked and punched more than they are shot (armor would help). When they are shot, the shots are physically dodgeable (enhanced reflexes would help) and when they are hit more often than not the beam only stuns (armor would help again). Nice try.
>>218090065Not for the Borg it isn't. A personal shield can block phasers and could be incorporated into armor.
>>218090094>(enhanced reflexes would help)to be fair phasers travel at the speed of smell and in more than one episode someone dodges on by leaning back just a bit.
>>218090097the whole point of the borg is assimilation, so it makes sense to invest in your wetware collective drones, not so much for their own preservation as ensuring they can infiltrate any species they find, and figure out a way to adapt to defend. In their first real appearance they don't care about the people so much as their technology, and making new drones was just a byproduct.
>>218089952Joseph and Ben Sisko were excellent dads. I know it's heresy to quote LD, but Freeman was an excellent mother. O'Brien and Keiko put their kids first.
>>218090020Wouldn't Tapestry have fixed him before PIC?
>>218089952Gene HAD to have families aboard the ship so he could justify having wesley, which was his pet character.
>>218090279 Jake became the epitome of a nepobaby lol. “Journalist” yeah. Ok sure
>>218090372He would only be a nepobaby if his dad was a journalist.
Worf didn't invite his parents or the crew of the Enterprise to his wedding, what an asshole.
>>218090372Go fuck yourself. Jake was the prime example of someone who followed his own path. He didn't neurotically follow into Starfleet. He stated behind in a war zone. He loved his dad. He rizzed a hot dabo girl. And he made it to manhood (and yes, I'm gonna cite ACK) and had his own family despite losing both his parents at a young age. Fuck the fuck out of you. Jake was a good kid. He was a good man.
Jake's a great character. It's stupid to pretend otherwise.
>>218090445A) it was wartime B) the wedding happened quicker than it would have because it was war time
>>218090372Anta baka?
>>218090482go away Jess
>>218090473Do you think he at least sent them a postcard?
>>218090429That’s not how it works. He’s only allowed to call himself a journalist and has access to information and places because of his dad’s position. >>218090448Jake was a privileged douche. He literally acts as an enemy agent against the Dominion while invoking his status as noncombatant press. He doesn’t take his stated professional seriously and he’s just into it for “the vibe”. real zoomer energy
>the captain demands you to report to her quarters after hours
>>218090630You are just digging yourself deeper in this hole
>>218090630>Dominion apologistwew lad
>>218090676It’s not being apologist it’s called having ethics in journalism
>>218090509He didn't even call his brother and give him a heads up before he got their entire house dishonored... again.
>>218090644Computer, activate the EHRH!
>>218090709>ethics in journalism>war with 1/4 of galaxy controlled by alien goohmmmm
>>218090779So don’t be a journalist then.
>>218088851based
Okay, each episode of Voyager season one assumes you are very stupid.
>>218088830Seeing as kid Spock was allowed to just leave the house and walk to some mountains full of deadly animals (that he only survived because of time travel shenanigans), I could be persuaded to believe that Vulcans allow for natural selection to help with raising kids.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHA9XkJCipkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZicsVKdqIyEWhile looking up the clips, I saw that kid Spock had a massive tiger-bear pet (that died a little after the second clip). I completely forgot about that.The episode also has an Andorian replace Spock as the Science Officer of the Enterprise (because of said time travel shenanigans), which is neat.
>>218088959KOSST AMOJANKOSSTAMOJANKOSSTAMOJAN
how did the writers get away with making a race of space Jews?
>>218091159the founders are the real space jews. the ferengi are just the space irish.
Okay, each episode of Deep Space Nine season one assumes you are very stupid.
>>218091159>>218091208Every alien race in Star Trek is an aspect of Jews
>>218091159They’re Yankee traders with a little Islam mixed in
>>218088087>The Federation doesn’t have ads
>taking in too many refugees is bad actually couldn’t make this today
>>218091309dystopian nutrek future is not canon.
>>218091309kek nu trek artists have such little imagination
>>218091310>my religion says your land belongs to us nowumm...
>>218091310Very 90s to describe the unwanted immigrants as having flaky annoying skin.The Bajorans & Federation were way too nice to these assholes.
Explain why eugenics are bad. Protip: you can't, feddie scum
>>218091579I actually agree with you but only in part.It should only be allowed specifically for an advanced civilization like the UFP that has already ended want, achieved warp travel, and has smoothed out most of its rough edges.The real danger for eugenics has already passed at this point and really, there's not much of a benefit to forbidding it.It's really dangerous for a developing society that still has factions and powers at variance, though. It becomes an arms race.
>>218091579Eugenics isn't bad.. for other species.Humans in Trek are always 1 step away form becoming megalomaniacal supervillains that want to rule/destroy all they can.Augmented humans (or anything with human DNA) always turn out to be evil, and the more evil they are, the more they act like a cartoon villain.Yes, even Bashir.
>>218091579Mostly because it's always full of unintended consequences, and the fact that chosing a partner based on genetic compatibility ignores the importance of the social compatibility needed to raise a child into a productive member of society.
This list seems very light, surely he suffered more than just this
>>218091620Yes, simply put your betters in charge and everything will work out fine for you lessers.
>>218091579other sci-fi has addressed it, unforseen consequences like the potential for inadvertently creating an unfixable genetic dead end
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>>218091579What's the thing data says about replacing every starfleet officer's eyes with a Geordi visor?
>>218091579Because of unintended consequences like the Autist that Bashir had to work with in DS9. They were really smart but were completely socially inept to the point that they had to have a handler like Retards at the mall. Megalomania, aka severe narcissism, is what Kahn developed.
>>218091579Because DNA and reproduction doesnt work like that. Eugenics is one part mysticism one part elitism. Anon...if that worked on any level then why are the filthy rich oligarchs all hideous lunatics. Bill gates is full on inbred and hes a sped idiot. The chosen people have deep psychological and genetic damage.Stop being fucking retarded.
>>218091579That's a stupid question.
>>218091685Asgard BTFO
>>218091579
>>218091656This is a good point. Your society could really spin out of control from this, the more I think about it. Just the loss of socialization, the sort of cold, sterile science of genetics becoming a sort of replacement for our humanity. You could very easily end up like the Borg going down this path.
>>218091685So just foresee them?? >we can’t use nuclear energy because what if Chernobyl energy
>>218091890>So just foresee them??
>>218091762>it j-just doesn’t work like it works for every speciesdogs exist yk
>>218091579because just selecting for a specific phenotype, which is all eugencists have ever actually cared about, will just result in actual garbage genetics. look at dogs.
>>218091729There’s no actual argument against that. I think we should have all our teeth removed and replaced with implants that fit our dietary preferences. But the dental lobby wants to keep having Epstein parties
>>218091913We aren't dogs. Also,What exactly do you hope to achieve with this cross breeding and creating hundreds of dog variations that will die without human intervention?
>>218091945Dogs are selected for a variety of things. It’s why we train chocolate labs as seeing eye dogs instead of wolves.
>>218091656>>218091885Just limit it to eugenics that don't affect the basic human genome.
>>218091948Teether removed and dying out equates to certain health issues in the body. Strange but its true.
>>218091965>Dogs are selected for a variety of thingsyeah nah, not anymore.
>>218091913Dog eugenics produces what amounts to potentially aesthetically appealing creatures that are internally hideous little mutants living cursed existences
>>218091953It would be cool if everyone was born with an IQ over 100 and without physical defects
>>218091975>t. Niggers who have retard breedsGet a real dog
>>218091985I'm not all to keen on "playing God" but Downs Syndrome and Harlequin Syndrome should be edited out of future generations for the same reason that Smallpox was eradicated.
>>218091997there is not one "pure" breed of dog left that doesn't have predictable health defects based on being a "purebreed" whatever they are
>>218092016>implying wolves don’t have predictable health defects
>>218091997Amerimutt well trained by American media to automatically bring up niggers when they are incapable of taking personal responsibility or habe to think to hard. This is one of those internally messed up goblins that poster was mentioning. Unfortunately its not aesthetically pleasing.
>>218092011Get rid of gayness and severe autism while you’re in there.
>>218092024no, you can't look at a wolf and predict it's knees will eventually disintegrate like you can when you look at a German Shephard
hello /trek/still thinking about zapping people with the nagus staff
>>218092027You’re the one saying that because gross mutant breeds exist that the friendlier healthier breeds never should have existed either and they should all have stayed wolves
>>2180919851.Thats not how the IQ thing works. Forgive the pedantics but its true.2.We dont really kniw how intelligence works or why. We know how to fuck up minds with vaccines drugs foods and certain ideologies. But not how to..."create"truly intelligent people.
>>218092034Absolutely.
>>218092037You can actually. You know nothing about zoology. All animals have things that commonly fail as they age or things that are commonly birth defects.
>>218092063you have no idea what I'm talking about. I guess you've never owned a dog
>>218092011Having Downs on a Federation planet would probably be amazing for them though lol
>>218092054We had nothing to do with dogs being created. Hell the really huge dogs that existed centuries ago were all killed off. The fuck are you blathering about
>>218092059> We dont really kniw how intelligence works or whyI mean yes we do
>>218092084>the really huge dogs that existed centuries agonta but elab
>>218088087They have ads at gas pumps now and I have to make autistic humming sounds to drown it out while I stand there.
>>218092084>We had nothing to do with dogs being createdYou must be 18 to post here son
>>218092061LGBTQA can be cured with drugs and therapy now. Autism has been confirmed as vaccine damage in the newer cases. Its why reagen made vaccine producers immune to being sued and criminal charges.
>>218092108> LGBTQA can be curedCan’t unsuck a dick
>>218092080Yeah but not Harlequin Syndrome babies>>218092098If they had the power to bea ads into your brain while you sleep they would
>>218092117just spit it out
>>218092093the alaunt for example was a ~120lb dog they used to hunt boarsif you know anything about boars that's a ridiculously strong dog
>>218092011If I remember right, deleting harmful or debilitating health conditions doesn't actually fall under the genetic engineering ban, it's specifically aimed at trying to custom engineer people to be 'better'Bashir is basically a miracle because the dude is pretty much a Khan level augment but somehow came out without the severe personality disorders, his shit is channeled into something positive and hid hid most of what he could do even then. I think one episode casually mentioned he's physically on par with Vulcans which is crazy shit for a human.
Sterilize everyone who watches videos on their phone without headphones and the world would see double digit rises in IQ. That’s my suggestion anyways
>>218092165In reality every single human in the federation is likely a result of eugenics, seeing as there was something called the Eugenics Wars right before the nuclear holocaust
>>218092105You think we bred dogs from wolves?Explain how.>>218092091We know how to test for it and have brain imaging. The rest is hypothesis. Further study is roadblocked by the eugenics and superior breed crowd.>>218092093There were once a large breed of dog think dog version of lion in Europe. Massive creatures. There was a ton of literature and historical accounts of them. But that was when they had larger forests there then now. So they may have been starved out due to lack of food and environment.
>>218092197The eugenics wars were about Khan and his compatriots taking over countries and waging war against normie leaders and each other.
>>218092197wrong
>>218092117Youre right. But their homosexuality and transexuality can be cured with drugs and therapy. Epigenetics will take care of the rest.
>>218091913Yes anon, it doesn't, you should get educated instead of cope posting
>>218092117if you give gay men ivermectin they shit out a bunch of intestinal worms and feel a lot differentguess how intestinal worms spread
>>218092211>Further study is roadblocked by the eugenics and superior breed crowd.It’s roadblocked by the complete opposite crowd though? The only reason people don’t get into it is because it isn’t politically correct. I remember all the geneticists getting cancelled in the 90s
>>218092197Every human in the federation is dead and they are ruled by a silent ai demigod. Their ships are all sentient for fucks sake.
>>218092165>deleting harmful or debilitating health conditions doesn't actually fall under the genetic engineering banWhich is one of the big misses with the nutrek slop. Basically nobody HAS to be unhealthy or disabled and That's Okay.
>>218092197The pro-eugenics side of those wars lost and the ones who didn't get got were exiled off earth
>>218092211> You think we bred dogs from wolvesYou can literally diy. It’s called domestication anon… there’s a Wikipedia page and everything. Is this an ESL thing and dog means something else in your native tongue?
>>218092211>You think we bred dogs from wolves?No. Ancient wolves started to mingle with humans and just started to change with domestication. You bring up boars when it's a great example of domestication. Pigs will even start growing fur and tusks if released into the wild. Anyways once wolves started changing and became docile we started to selectively breed them for specific traits.
>>218092268At what point is something a disability is the question howstever.
>>218092319Being dumb ugly gay or fat is a disability imo.
>>218092245What geneticist being canceled?For what. Saying that some races can pass a test created to place school children that was registered by a couple of racist pencil pushers to say "we passed our tests and we say we are superior"?They're still saying having a high number on their tests = magic and you'll have success no matter what. When high iq individuals tend to have severe social and psychological disadvantages and dont get fantastic jobs and fabulous wealth. Also, haven't you noticed how many obviously stupid wealthy people tend to claim to be very intelligent aka have a high iq?
>>218092265They've also lost their immortal godgiven souls to transporters
>>218092268That's not a new Trek thing it's been that way all along. There's consistently been conditions that either couldn't be programmed out in advance or weren't curable after the factThey even walked back the Soong synthetic body thing for obvious reasons
>>218092293When did the chiuaha and pitbull come about. And how. Im curious. What breed of wolf?
>>218092211Bro the heaviest recorded human bred English Mastiff weighed almost 350 lbs.
>>218092345> When high iq individuals tend to have severe social and psychological disadvantages and dont get fantastic jobs and fabulous wealth.IQ is actually among the most accurate early life predictor of future wealth they’ve found. lol
>>218092369around the time you ate breakfast this morning
>>218092384Anon. Thats never been proven true.
>>218092393Too bad intelligence is the most polygentic trait in humans and nearly impossible to breed for
>>218092417>>218092172
>>218092319>At what point is something a disability is the question
>>218092393Can't be that accurate, look at how fucking stupid billionaires are
>>218092405Meant for.>>218092393
>>218092405Guinness takes their record accuracy very seriously. Zorba was 8 feet long including the tail.
>>218089290the left hands of the captains (except for archer) all look the same and it's kinda freaking me out
>>218092437Iirc from the course I took in college where we went over this one study the correlation did break at the highest income level.
>>218092359I would say it's been inconsistent. Even in TNG Geordi had options other than his VISOR.Picard's fake son got his genetic disorder treated too. It's still mostly along the lines of "we can try to fix this"
>>218092435????? I can't believe you think this would accomplish anythingWhat genetic traits do you think people who listen to fuck i cant even write it without laughing
>>218092499If you take the friendliest dog in every liter and breed them you get friendlier dogs. I don’t need to know what genes are involved in making them friendly?
>>218092345t. Average nutrek enjoyer
>>218092449>>218092449>Guinness takes their record accuracy very seriously.
>>218092559K
>>218092543Look, for one, dogs have extremely simple haplotypes, friendly in a dog is magnitudes easier to logically define, and genetically isolate than friendliness in humansSecondly, sure, your plan might work IF YOU LIVED FOR 5,000 YEARS and were able to enforce your standard for the same amount of rigor over 100 human generations You understand that DOGS breed roughly 10-15 times faster than humans right?
I hate dogs
If dogs are so great then why are we typing with fingers instead of paws?
Star Trek but dogs
Mr. Woof
>>218092652No it isn't. Certain families are historically more friendly and more unfriendly than others,.
>>218092652>Secondly, sure, your plan might work IF YOU LIVED FOR 5,000 YEARS and were able to enforce your standard for the same amount of rigor over 100 human generations“It’s hard and will take a long time” isn’t a reason for something being bad Anyways it only took like 4 or 5 generations for that Russian team domesticating foxes to get them acting doggy. Just keep breeding empathetic, intelligent people and sterilizing self-centered, annoying people and you have functional eugenics.
If /trek/ were a dog it shouldn't be allowed to breed with anything else. It's a bad strain that would only weaken the species in the long run.
>>218092495I think ultimately one thing it comes down to is that in Trek times physical disabilities won't be stigmatized, so it's completely fine if there are people who exist that don't chose to be 'fixed'In the same way Geordi lived with a flawed option for a long time because he considered it preferable to others, people just may opt out of certain procedures.
Mr. O'Brien, beam your dick directly into my ass. Energize.
>>218092736"Annoying" is vague but I agree, we need a Survivor voting system for when someone is being gauche
>>218092755They still could be stigmatized by other species and that could be very detrimental to a person
>>218087897>and introduced them to to each other by saying that he didn't know who to pick as he liked them both.Unfathomably based.
I can destroy /trek/ with but a single post and I have proven it this day.
Almost time to make new. No more eugenics discussion from the paw patrol. Only polite Star Trek trivia.
>>218092834I don't believe you.
>>218092726>>218092736This is retarded, define friendly in humans, your whole argument breaks apart with that because friendliness is inherently about how humans interact with eachother in a society
>>218092890Skill issue>>218091579
>>218092834>>218092880>NOOOO ON-TOPIC DISCUSSION, IM GOING INSANE!!!
>>218092915>he's doing that liberal thing where he pretends to not understand a simple concept
>>218092915If I find someone annoying then objectively they're annoying, simple as. If you don't get it you're probably one of the annoying ones.
>>218092928>spends six hours posting about fucking dogs and dog fucking and fuck dogging
>>218092972Defining friendliness in a useful way that can act as a guideline for selecting humans in a eugenics program is the opposite of simple, anon
>>218093060more word make head hurtstupid anon think more word make smartfuck you
*zooms past you*
>>218093158/me drops a log in ur pathlol nothing personnel bitch
>>218092697Have them play poker and I'm sold
I'll take all three
>>218088252It’s weird that they had an episode where something actually happened and the villain completely cucks the scraggly voice captain and kills one of the few sane characters on the show and then next episode it’s just back to the homo mines of interpersonal buttboy bullshit from people we don’t care about. It’s weird to me someone actually pushed for “maybe there should be some action or dilemmas to solve in our space show” for a middle episode when everything else is just gay CW drama.
>>218093251>/me/me thinks about logging back into second life again but ghosted all my friends forever ago
>Klingons are now regularly being buck broken by Fed chadsStarting to think the Klingons were right to want to destroy the Federation
>>218093628>You have no honor if you can't even hit my prostate!
Transporter room, lock on to the away team and beam them directly to the new thread >>218093672
>>218092915Psychologists design diagnostic surveys that test for all sorts of things, friendliness wouldn’t be hard to measure. I’m sure they already have something for conduct disorders in children.
>>218091620Good argument
>>218089290>no raktajino mug
Guys I never watched ENT. Worth watching?
>>218096940It depends. Do you have strength of the soul?
>>218096940It's better than Voyager. First season is a little bumpy and the last is atrocious due to the shitty ending but overall it is worth a watch.
>>218097247>It's better than VoyagerNo it isn't.
>They're deadPartially true>You're deadIncorrect>Cardassia is deadNot for another 3 seasonsI thought gods didn't make mistakes
>>218097464Why is it that, out of all Solids, she hates Cardassians the most?>the look of pure hatred when Garak wants to ask her a question>ditto when Dukat introduces himself to her>and again when Damar gives his freedom speech>once more when she orders total spoonhead death
>>218096940Things Enterprise has to offer you:Worst Captain in the franchiseWorst cast in the franchiseUgliest lead ship in the franchiseAbandons it's core premise even faster than Voyager didVOY was already dumpster diving for unused TNG scripts, Enterprise is reaching for the soiled ones at the bottom of the dumpsterHas an entire season based on 9/11 that has aged like milk left out in the sunHas what's considered a worst of all time contender class finale. Not in Trek history, in *tv* historyOverall poor to the level it put the entire franchise in a coma for yearsBut don't let anybody say it's theme song is bad. It's fine.Enjoy!
>>218091079Because Brannon Braga is stupid.
>>218097704She hates the Federation most of all. Their equality mindset and Cardassia's supreme arrogance are obviously at odds with their core philosophy of Changeling supremacy.
