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First for Maidens
>>218126171Nothing about Roose's relationship with Ramsay makes any sense unless he's a thousand year old vampire creature who's going to steal Ramsay's body to live another 50 years
Bloodraven made this thread
>>218126202the most beautiful targ
>>218126192What’s the buzz?
>>218126202>Elaena Targaryen>maidenDoes he know?
Beneath the stripes, the bitter sting
What an adventure dunk! Anyway, would you like to fuck my girlfriend? We’ll be in the tent next door, don’t be shy
I think the apple's rotten right to the coreFrom all the things passed downFrom all the apples coming beforeI split the apple down symmetrical linesAnd what I find is kinda scaryMakes me just wanna drive
>>218126192>>218126249Why are there no female beesburys?
the swarm has arrivedfuck bloodraven and his thread
>bzz
>>218126192Remember that Rhaegar would throw out Lyanna away, just like he did with his first wife, the moment his prophecy addled brain decided he found even better candidate to fulfill his prophecy. That’s why you don’t let 13 yo run away with a pedo that doesn’t care about her health and couldn’t wait until she’s proper age to get her pregnant
>>218126250>Sotthyros-Westerosi girlfriend and I dig your style, Duncan
>introduce a century-old tree wizard who can literally time travel, possess other people and animals, and send people messages via dreams>introduce various people who have magical abilities to look exactly like someone elsehow to ruin any lore discussion of your IP in 2 books
>bzzz
>>218126207Just wanted to say that
>>218126260That'd bee a Queen
THE BEE DOES NOT CONCERN HIMSELF WITH THE OPINIONS OF THE FLOWER
buzzin in
>>218126192The Hive Remembers!
>>218126249>Beeneath>BeetterOne job
>>218126207the fact that he kept ramsay around after knowing that he probably killed his own son domeric is fucking insane. dude's beyond a psychopath. only way that makes sense is if he's an inhuman skinstealer.
>>218126309That's what you want people to think.
R + L = J
What is best in life?To sting your enemies, see them abuzz about you, and the pollination of their women
>>218126288You forgot that Bran will be even stronger than bloodraven and completely invalidate any stakes of the universe as he will control both present, future and past
>>218126352Raymun + Lyonel = Jaime
>If you have need of a dagger, take one from the armory. Robert left a hundred when he died. Gerion gave him a gilded dagger with an ivory grip and a sapphire pommel for a wedding gift, and half the envoys who came to court tried to curry favor by presenting His Grace with jewel-encrusted knives and silver inlay swords.” >Tyrion smiled. “They’d have pleased him more if they’d presented him with their daughters.” >“No doubt. The only blade he ever used was the hunting knife he had from Jon Arryn, when he was a boyBobby B was too pure for this world, brainlets fundamentally don't understand his character
>>218126288can't they only possess weak/retarded people (like hodor), not everybody generally speaking
>literally proves Robert was a manwhore with his quoteI stg these people
>>218126250>Dunk walks into the Fossoway tent just in time to see a transexual camp follower facefucking Raymun to orgasm>Dunk sputters out an embarrassed apology and leaves>Raymun turns to the camera and says "trans rights are human rights" as he wipes cum off his face >AND WHO ARE YOU THE PROUD LORD SAID
>>218126376Same dagger he killed the boar with, too.
>>218126335>>218126207Roose warned Domeric about Ramsay and he still fell for it, it was just natural selection. Same reason he's fine with Ramsay killing him and his potential Frey sons if he's clever enough to get away with it
>>218126368Lol
House Forrester uvhhhh
>>218126376>only ever had meaningful, emotional and loyal relationships with men
>>218126256>driveSomeone make a house Driver sigil
>>218126408I can see it happeningdon't even need to refilm things due to AI now
>>218126396He warged Maekar to kill his brother
>>218126430What would be their house words?
>>218126438"..."
>>218126433lmao
>>218126438i ride
>>218126396it's just a matter of power level. regular wildling wargs can only warg into weak, submissive people but it's easy to reason that hundred year old warg wizards could possess anyone
>>218126428The North Grove whatever happened there
>>218126376Based Robert transmitting his reading comprehension to his fanboys.
>>218126430We do not walk
>>218126455LMAO
>>218126376Some of us still remember good king Robert and hate all TARGARYEN SHITS
>>218126478Looks like BOOOOOOAR is no longer pregnant
GOT-verse is also shit (the tv, not the books)But relatively speaking, Knight of the Seven Kangdoms is good
>>218126288>>218126396>>218126366We don't have any evidence that Bloodraven can skinchange into people yet. Bran is meant to be stronger and he can though. It's gonna turn out that everything is plot by Bran by Bloodraven in the end
>>218126418>Another of my freyhog spawns was strangled in his cradle?>i guess weakling had it coming!
>>218126451you can "reason" anything, but thats not necessarily how it works
>>218126498So what’s the beef between us and BrBa normie fags?
I love her so much it's unreal
>>218126192Do all Dragon eggs require a sacrifice to hatch? Is that how the Targs did it?If so, why didn't any of the most recent kings did it? I guess egg tried, but what about like, the mad king. Just grab a whore's baby from Flea bottom and have your dragon
>>218126530the last episode of dunc had a perfect 10 rating so the bafags started reviewbombing it and now all kind of people are reviewbombing the 10 rating bb episode
Anyone has the Maiden's Day Cattle Show picture saved?
>>218126454Talia didn't get cummed inside by me so no prophecy fulfilled
>>218126530In the name of a Mother had 10/10 on IMDb, then thousands of 1/10 star reviews started pouring in from BB fans to drop it down
>>218126554>TFW no Bolton gf
>>218126498Was Ozymandias the only episode of any show on imdb with a 10/10 rating at all before this?
>>218126531i watch supergirl for she
>>218126546The fact any of that is even possible should invalidate reviews on that site forever.
>>218126544Aegon V sacrificed whole summerhall and it didn’t work out. Simply blood sacrifices is not enough
>>218126546>>218126564Why are they like this? What causes this level of pettiness and mental illness? It's been over a fucking decade since BB ended.
>>218126589>Aegon V sacrificed whole summerhall and it didn’t work outDunk interrupted it.
>>218126408I would unironically kek. But also, it's not going to happen. The LGBTroons have been discarded as a social messaging device. The new messaging is multiculturalism/globalism. That's why they highlighted his hatred of the targshits as "incestuous aliens" He will bend the knee to Maekar, and we will find out he's fucking a black chick. This is the massive "CHUD TEARS" moment they keep alluding to
>>218126600autism
>>218126570Imagine the knifeplay
>>218126573They did it to other shows too. This time people had enough
>>218126604>IN THE NAME OF THE MOTHER STOP THIS AT ONCE YOUR GRACE
>>218126544>>218126589You probably need a certain percentage of dragon/wyrm blood. Targshits are basically confirmed to be dragon hybrids made by blood magic
>"Fire and Blood" were the words of House Targaryen, but Dunk once heard Ser Arlan say that Aegon's should have been, "Wash Her and Bring Her to My Bed."
>>218126600Breaking Bad seriously isn't even that good, it was just a lot of people's introduction to "serious" prestige drama so they think it's the peak of tv
>>218126260The house founder was a woman, Ellyn Ever Sweet. She made a pact with bees in Age of Heroes so that her and her descendants would care for bees for eternity. (i am not making this up, this is literally the lore)
>>218126632I love BB and BCS a lot but I can name several shows that I personally think are superior, the first four seasons of GOT included.
>>218126570thanks but there was moreLady Redwyne was the best
>>218126641>The house founder was a woman, Ellyn Ever Sweet. She made a pact with bees in Age of Heroes so that her and her descendants would care for bees for eternity.People act like George isn't self aware but there's no way this wasn't intended to be funny as fuck
>>218126455>Robert cares nothing for fancy shit or shiny new gifts>is deeply loyal and sentimentalkek, this retard doesn't realize that it means if Robert had Lyanna he'd have ignored all the women throwing themselves at him the same way he does with the knives and swords. The same way he ignores all the ass kissers and chooses Ned as his hand. Once Robert commits he doesn't change his mind
Peak Dunk vs Ser Arlan who wins
>>218126692Dunk obviously.
>>218126611WMBF is tolerable but I wish we had Yi Ti girls everywhere
In the books in the HOTD and DUNK eras, is there any non Targ magic happenings or is it only in ASOIAF? >children of the forest/bloodraven>maesters >faceless men>Red god>7 godsThe shows never touch on any of these guys.
>>218126669
Forget swordsmen. Who is the best archer in the setting?
>>218126192I've become so much like Lyman Beesbury it's scary. I wear the house colors, stay loyal to my friends wishes, and don't know what year it is anymore. When I look in the mirror, I can't help but say "vespar, vespar" (which means buzz, buzz in High Valyrian.) I grew my hair out long because I don't care so now I have to wear it as a mullet and I don't care what people think so shut fuck up Alicent! I always wear the House Beesbury crest, and go out of my way to show it to everyone so they are reminded to Beware My Sting. When I see bees being kept in an apiary I get sad for them for not being free like I am. I can't have sex with my girlfriend anymore without forcing her to dress up as a flower. When I order fast food, I refuse to call it honey mustard and insist on calling it slavery glorification. I just keep buzzing onwards, until all my enemies feel the bite of my sting.
>>218126714In show that one guy from the BWOB
>>218126692jousting? Arlan might have a chance. Melee? Dunk mogs 10 out of 10.
>>218126672Yeah, there are multiple houses that are meant to be a joke. Grandisons are similiar, they have a sleeping lion on their banners and you will notice that all mentions of them include falling asleep, yawning etc.
>>218126728Could Dunk beat a Dothraki bloodrider in single combat?
>>218126711thanksgib Redwyne gf
>>218126710It's doubtful that the seven are even real. A more interesting question is how long ago the red priests began their cult. For an evangelizing religion it seems like it should be fairly recent in history for it to only be as big as it is in the Free Cities by the time of GoT.
HAHAHAGREENFUCKINGBOYS
>>218126641>literally pull out my copy of a world of ice and fire just to fact check this bullshit>it's fucking truei can't beelieve it
>>218126751No. Dunk is a shit rider and Dothraki are raised in the saddle.
>>218126498Ozy deserved it's 10 but the fans absolutley deserve this shit, i've seen their review bombing of other shows like Succession first hand, fuck emi will take ser duncan's side
>>218126714at the start of the books it was Theon or Anguy
>>218126714if foul sorcery count, Bloodraven.
>>218126570>first date>the kitchen brings you a pair of roast pheasants along with some side dishes>she spends 5 minute meticulously removing the skin, all in one piece>her knifework is fast and clean>"what's wrong? do you not like the skin?">"Don't be silly, the skin is the best part. I just like to save it for last">"Do you want to see something funny, Ser Anon?">You nod out of curiosity>She drapes the skin over her fingers, and begins puppeteering around the table, as if it were a living chicken in search of it's head, knocking over wine glasses and making grotesque gurgling chicken clucks
>>218126619>>218126794They did it to AoT as wellErwin's charge was PEAK
>>218126866they do it to everyone, everyhting breaking bad related gets 10s while they coincidentally rate everything a 1, they even have done this to BCS ffs
>>218126866Nah tranime gookslop deserves every low rating it gets.
>>218126751Since the show seems to be operating with armor actually doing its job, yes. Dothraki fight unarmored like retards and its a miracle that they're as much of a menace on Essos as they're supposed to be. I don't remember if this issue is show only but pretty much all the steppe peoples (aside from NA natives I guess) had some kind of personal protection and the lack thereof here is just silly.
>>218126784The first men world building is so ass
The Blackfyres are boring. There, I said it!
>>218126929Proving ARYAndals are superior once again.
>>218126531Monke a cute. Cute!
>>218126784>Renowned for shooting apples off the head of any maid who took his fancy>Hey girl, hold still while I shoot this lethal weapon at youWhat kind of rizz is this?
Missed opportunity not having Beesbury stinging someone with his lance before dying himself
>>218126672>honey as fuck
>>218126940they are many things but boring is not one i hear about often
>>218126751Both on foot? Yeah easily, Jorah managed to
>>218126968He should have thrown a beehive at one of the KG and for the rest of the ep you see one of them riding back and forth across the scene screaming and flailing his arms
>>218127023they banned that move from trials
>>218126843Gods, she's...perfect...
>>218127023He should have a mechanical lance that shoots bees at his opponents. There is nothing in the rules of jousting that prohibits this btw.
>>218126544>Do all Dragon eggs require a sacrifice to hatch? Is that how the Targs did it?Doesn't seem like that was the norm, back in the golden years you only needed to place the dragon egg inside a crib next to a little Targ prince/princess and it would most likely hatch, on its own. There's no explanation on why that trick stopped working after the Dance, other than a lame "magic left Westeros".
>>218127023they used to have a valyrian steel sword that could summon bees, it was called barb
>stage playWRITE THE DAMN BOOKS YOU FAT FUCK
>>218127075It doesn't always work though, and some Targs would have to tame existing adult dragons instead. It's possible that their bloodlines became too weak from not inbreeding enough and they lost the connection with their dragons.
>>218126711Dornish HARLOT!
>>218127075Dragons and magic seem to have a sort of symbiotic relationship such that dragons can only live and thrive in a world with active magic, but dragons also passively work to keep that level of magic high. The Dance dropped the number of dragons too low and as a result no more could be born.Dany (imo) unwittingly uses the "universal key" of magic (sacrificing a loved one, an innocent child, and a wise man/woman) to get her ritual at the end of AGOT to work.
>>218126714Edmure, teehee
>>218127150ahaa
>>218126914I have no source, just like, my oppinion, man. But I'm pretty sure the Dothraki horse lords are supposed to be mostly inspired by the Mongal Horde, who basically swept their corner of the world by learning horseback archery. Armor is a bit redundant and useless when your entire gimmick is min-maxxing for mobility and range. Of course, George dropped the faggy bows, because he wanted scary barbarians. He probably also pulled from other shit like Conan the Barbarian. and maybe some of the early DnD art with shirtless dudes being bad ass
>>218126914>>218127005Well uh...would be best an Unsullied?
>>218126430House Croakhorn“Through Rains and Rivers”House Pinsyng“Spear and Shield Make The Frog Yield”
>>218127178Would Dunk best an Unsullied? Well their whole shtick seems to be formation fighting, big old phalanx, so again yes easily.
>Jon yanked away and grabbed the knight by the throat with such ferocity that he lifted him off the floor. He would have throttled him if the Eastwatch men had not pulled him off. Thorne staggered back, rubbing the marks Jon’s fingers had left on his neck>For half a heartbeat the world beyond his eye slit was a blur. In the end Halder and Horse had to pull him away from Iron Emmett, one man on either arm. The ranger sat on the ground dazed, his shield half in splinters, the visor of his helm knocked askew, and his sword six yards away>"The ground is half-frozen. It must have taken the wildlings half the night to drive the spears so deep." Jon Snow grasped the spear that bore Garth Greyfeather's head and wrenched it violently from the ground. "Pull down the other two," he commanded, and four of the crows hurried to obey. To the men struggling with the spears Snow said, "Take the heads and burn them. Leave nothing but bare bone."what's the explanation for Jon's retard strength? Wolf's blood?
I really like the idea that like 2-3 completely independent people or conspiracies poisoned Joffrey at his wedding because he was a huge dickhead that everyone wanted dead, and part of the reason Cersei tried so hard to pin it on Tyrion was because she was one of them, wanting Joff out of the way for a more pliable king to manipulate.
>>218127165Per Gurm himself, the Dothraki are based off the depiction of NA tribes like the Comanche, and specifically their depiction in old Western movies as a massive horde. He doesn't understand a thing about medieval warfare in Europe, let alone the steppe, so their tactics and lack of armor make no sense at all.IRL Mongols did not have the ability to make metal armor at scale, but they happily looted or bought it when they could. They also routinely fielded tiny armies due to low overall population numbers.I could go on and on about how stupid the Dothraki as a concept are.
>>218127238>Joffery survives because poison A is counteracted by poison B, and only dies because there was a third scheme and poison
>>218127178Maybe. Unsullied aren't particularly big or strong thanks to not producing testosterone, and Dunk is like twice their average size and has twice the strength. But Unsullied are far better trained, even individually.
>>218127260I always thought they felt more Hunnic, idk
>>218127178Unsullied are shit and one of the worst things about GRRM's wordbuilding, castrated children will not grow up to be good warriors.
>>218126629Cool it with the racism, Ser Raymun
>>218127165Mongols had armor and used lancers. Horse archers were a tool for provoking and harassing the enemy into breaking formation so you can kill them
>>218126784>Maris the Maid>cuckoldry out of fucking nowheredare I call him obsessed?
>>218127290There was a History Matters video on the janissaries where they stupidly say that they were castrated, fucking GoT leaking into pop history
>>218127165No that’s the Jogos Nhai
>>218127178Trivially. Phalanx-style warriors are quite vulnerable when out of formation, and well-made chain mail and a shield is going to largely trivialize a spear like they carry. Dunk is going to close the distance and kill him.
>>218127178unsullied are mediocre in solo combat, they are weak due to being eunuchs and wear light armor. They are good in groups due to their discipline, but in reality the reason they are so valued in Essos is because they won't betray you like sellswords. They'd get trashed in Westeros, their entire reputation is based on some retarded unarmored dothraki repeatedly throwing themselves at a shield wall head on
>>218127238It is honestly hilarious to think think that Tyrion was the only person there who didn't poison the wine, and everyone else was just horrified because they didn't think their poison would be so brutal
>>218127303>>218127260I am corrected. Thank you good sers.
>>218127358>their entire reputation is based on some retarded unarmored dothraki repeatedly throwing themselves at a shield wall head onI mean, it worked against the Sarnosi and every other city until they hit Qohor.
>>218127358They'd probably do ok in Westeros, disciplined spearmen who won't break, but you'd probably need to up armour them to keep them competitive against both the rougher melee, heavier cavalry, and missile troops
>>218126589>>218126604>Dunk interrupted the Summerhall sacrfice>the Maesters poisoned Aerion's Widlfire>Jorah interrupted Miri Maaz Duur's spell to resurrect Khal DrogoIs there a Targaryen ritual that HASN'T been interrupted?
does lyonel baratheon have a role in the story going forward? I'm enjoying the actor's portrayal way too much for him to be a one off
>>218127415the very first one, also Jorah probably didn't interrupt anything, Drogo was always going to come back as a veg and the baby dead
>>218127415the dragon bonding rituals... when they work
>>218127425Not until Egg is king and Dunk is the Lord-Commander of the Kingsguard. But the actor will probably die of old age before the show gets that far.
>>218127381If I had to "fix" the Dothraki, I'd do the following:>Merge them and the "lamb men" sheepherders. The IRL Mongols main way of supporting themselves was herding>Make them less of retarded barbarians. They can still look down on the settled peoples, but see them as useful for trade/a source of tribute. They can be brutal raiders but like their real life counterparts can be negotiated with.>Make Drogo unique among Dothraki in the sense that he doesn't care as much about bullying city-states into tribute, but sees himself as a conqueror. He can marry Dany after culminating the unity of the tribes of part of/all of the steppe.>Their outfits make no sense, Dany especially should be wearing especially elaborate getup and have a small host of servants waiting on her.
>>218126984No he is right, every meme revolt is the same
>>218127398They would not. They're castrated before even going through puberty, they would have the strength of a woman. They would also have hilariously high voices.
>>218127454each member we know about feels unique so i don't agree
>>218127454Especially as the big tweest from Varys/Ilyrio/fAgeon is....yet another Blackfyre, yayNobody would be realistically smashing their head against the Iron Throne for this long, the Jacobites didn't and they're the inspiration.
>>218126960You've never heard of a William Tell shot? Brown and/or zoomer?
>>218127489The real question is, would the Septons still see them as men? Or are the lads just allowed to rape them as one would a woman?
>>218127489I always thought that you're supposed to handwave away the castration making them super weak as I don't think it's ever mentioned in the story and Martin is a bit of a tard to not realise that
>>218127489You forgot to mention that unlike 99% of eunuchs from real life, they have their entire cock and balls cut off so they're gonna have constant problems with bladder infections.
>>218127358>They'd get trashed in WesterosNu-uh, westeros banished their one true king and savour to stave off an unsullied chimpout
>>218127415>>Dunk interrupted the Summerhall sacrfice>>the Maesters poisoned Aerion's Widlfire>>Jorah interrupted Miri Maaz Duur's spell to resurrect Khal DrogoAll warg'd by a certain someone
>>218127494Only the first 2 had personalities, the rest are nothing.>>218127499At least a dragon will eat that one.
>>218127499>Nobody would be realistically smashing their head against the Iron Throne for this longit's what makes them special, they are hopeless yet they won't stop, it's endearing
>>218126530Indians have made it online
>>218127550Daemon, Daemon II, Bittersteel, Aenys, Maelys, Vaarys and Faegon all feel really different anon
>>218127415>Is there a Targaryen ritual that HASN'T been interrupted?The Resurrection of Jon Snow
>>218127553I dunno bro, it just comes off as tedious, like each one more comic and less likely than the last and with no bloody sword
>>218126430Isnt that a dornish house sigil already?
>>218127415thought the spell was supposed ot be shit or is that a show thing?
First for Rohanne Webber
>>218127576Daemon and the fag are the only ones with characterization the rest are the same shit>snoozefyre land in westeros>some based warrior rape their leader >bittercuck ran away
>>218127524>unsullied chimpoutThere were probably only a few thousand left after everything that happened. They also have no money, supplies, and are in a hostile country. There was no way in hell that they'd have posed any real threat if the lords decided to get rid of them.
Do great series have generals that host the same posts like TAOOBA and Mario Naharis again and again and live whole days before next bake?i think not/got//hotd/ wasn't gifted with writing or restraint, /got/ was arrogant, lazy/hotd/ whored and pandered, it was a hard series not to hate by the end, ruled the catalog for nigh on 16 years and it was still forgottenwhat chance do i have, truly?/got/ was good to me, /hotd/ weren't family to me but it kept me like we werethey raised me be an honorable general and all these other generals still can't even remember his namehis name was /got/hotd/, and i am his legacyon the morrow for a final timewe will show the catalog what his hand has wrought
>>218127591Qorgyle
>>218127588>with no bloody swordfaegon has blackfyre
>>218127623Probably a fake.
>>218127623Really now?
If one of the Targ's had decided to take the Free Cities while they still had dragons is there anything that would have stopped them?
>>218127658Faceless men.
I, for one, am hyped for the Baratheon ninja
>>218127658All the other free cities>Nobody bullies us except us!
>>218127643maybe>>218127646apprently, but winds will never come out, though i don't see how it's impossible that it can't be "THE sword"
>>218126714/his/, what are the colored braid-rope-things they wear on the helmets? Pic unrel.
>>218126711*Thousand yards stares*
>>218127682I don't remember anywhere in Dance it being implied he had THE sword
>>218126711I would easily fix Myrmadora, but Patricia could fix me
>>218127681Also the free cities:>"AAAHH AEGON HELP US! VOLANTIS IS ATTACKING AGAIN!"
>>218127623That's a lie
Since they apparently ask weird subjective prices is there any reason why a person couldn't try to contract the Faceless Men through an intermediary?>Hey man go hire an assassin to kill my rival. Do it and I'll make sure your family will be set for generations.
>>218127709Free Cities and hypocrisy, name a more iconic duo>what's the deal with the Free Cities? They're not free and they're not cities
>>218127718If they find out they'll kill you.
>>218127685That woman is prime breeding
Here's a questionWho WOULDN'T peak Duncan be able to beat in a fight?
>>218127775I wasn't shitposting. I really want to know what you call the colored braid-rope-thingies.
I should be king of Westeros with Gatehouse Ami as queen by my side
>>218127785The Mountain probably
>>218127693What if Dragonbane ordered the maesters to wipe out the lizards?
>>218127658Faceless Men like the other anon said.Its widely believed the Doom of Valyria was caused by them.
>>218127785Arya Stark.But no seriously, he's a divinely-ordained mega-knight. At his peak, he's unbeatable.>>218127800....Shit. You're right.
>>218126896I don't watch anime sir I watch kino
>>218127448>Their outfits make no sense, Dany especially should be wearing especially elaborate getup and have a small host of servants waiting on her.probably the worst oversight by George. I can maybe give them a pass for fighting unarmored. The dialogue/exposition dump between Jorah and Dothraki #6 does a decent enough job of handwaving this by explaining that Essos dioesnt have a lot of steel, and platemail is basically alien technology. Their swords are designed to slice through softer targets, not hammer against a walking wall of steel. The dothraki dont need protection, as long as they are faster and better swordsman. But yeah, if they are demanding tribute from every merchant they meet, they definitely have plenty of fancy silk, and all kinds of fashionable clothing, just laying around
>>218127785the usual top tier fighters, i don't see Duncan beating prime Selmy, Jaime, DaemonB, BobbyB, Oberyn, AemonDK, Dayne, Sandor
>>218127790Here ya go fren https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torse
>>218127800Dunk would actually sweep the floor with him. Mountain is constantly high and in pain and can't move. One big greatsword is enough to scare cheap knights and peasants. Dunk is incredibly skilled and nimble and really any super well trained knight could probably kill the Mountain. The reason they don't is he always has his own small army with him.
>>218127815Also maybe not Sandor, but I think that's a lot closer. All the traditionally "good" knights you can just make the argument that Dunk's lunk would be able to overpower their better technique and training so in the end it just comes down to "who is bigger than Dunk"
>let your father say “she smells dornish” to your newborn daughter and mocks her at every turn>take the future warden of the north's sister to your fancy sex chambers to make more potential prophecy babies>Thus pissing off said future warden of the north, and a Baratheon. Not just any baratheon, THAT FUCKING BARATHEONYou know I feel like I can get a bead on most of the targs in terms of why they do what they do, but I just can't figure out why would Rhaegar do these things, in said order.
>>218127832yeah, seems like Brienne is basically an upgrade of him in terms of battle prowess
>>218126769Honestly I'm surprised George didn't tap into the idea of the evangelizers of R'hllor promising freedom to the slaves across Slavers Bay and causing the religion to spread like wildfire across the slaves of the free cities.
>>218127832Duncan is like the perfect gatekeeper for the best fighters tier
>he GAPED me Ser Duncan!>Prince Maekar gaped you?>wide as a castle wall!>i can't believe this... was he shieldworthy?>he didn't even try to joust Dunk, just knocked me over, face down in the mud and gaped my skull as wide as a sinkhole. i swear if he jumped in he could have ended up in Dorne!>i can't believe you got gaped>by the time we were done, the whole tourney reeked of brains(Ser Lyonel enters)>Whats going on?>Prince Baelor got gaped>Duuuunk don't tell him that>(Lyonel stares and breathes heavily) you were gaped? I can't believe this>Whats the problem>do you know how hard i tried to gape a Kingsguard? I was lucky if I could strike them at all!(Egg bursts in)>Baelor got gaped by your father!(Egg kneels down and sniffs his dying uncle's head)>oh yeah, that's a gape
>>218127889lol no (but not far off)
Is this the single most superhuman feat in the entire setting? Rhaegar's armor would presumably have been expertly made and Robert just punched through it like aluminum foil
>>218127832Oberyn? Lol.
>>218127843Thank you.>or wreathAAAAHHHHHH
>>218127919ok you caught me fine, everyone there but oberyn
>>218127915GODS I WAS STRONG NED
>>218127915Wasnt that the point of a war hammer?
>>218127915yes, Robert like most of the top tier was peak human
>>218127885He's a retard.
>>218126192Did Dunc ever make way to the houses of the two knights who died for him in the trial of seven? Feels like he'd offer to work for them in honor of their slain family members.
>>218127832>i don't see Duncan beating prime Selmy, Jaime, DaemonB, BobbyB, Oberyn, AemonDK, Dayne, Sandor>Oberyn
>>218127885He was genuinely a retard. I don't mean that in a meme way either I mean he was entirely pic rel. Kidnapping Lyanna (even if actually consensual) was an act that was sure to create massive political turmoil. At minimum he could have communicated that it wasn't a kidnapping to the Starks. Possibly meet them under guard before they arrived at KL. But instead he was content to plunge the continent into a war. All for some Nostradamus shit.
>>218127956Whou the fuck would ever swear an oath of loyalty to a family that might very well blame you personally for the death of their lord father? That would be fucking stupid... But I guess Dunk is pretty stupid too, so, who knows
>>218128015He was so dumb he probably thought no one would care.
>>218127933Warhammers were good anti armor weapons but more for delivering blunt force to the head or limbs and puncturing weak points with the spike. A well made properly fitted breastplate like Rhaegar would have had should have made his vitals almost impervious to a direct attack. Even if you could get the spike end to punch through a little it shouldn't have been enough to kill but HE WAS STRONG THEN
>>218126202>>218126214she is canonically said to have been regarded by men as more beautiful at seventy than at seventeendelicious Targ milf
>>218127885most rational targschizo
https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Alyn_Cockshawis there a more cursed existence than gay incel ?
>>218128152cast him
>Lord Beesbury's heir has kidnapped my daughter>Go before him with my boy and demand trial by combat>He says that he his abuzz to show me the champion of his house>He has my son stung to death while I'm choked with honey
>>218127885The only theories that make sense is that he was as insane as any Targ, but not in a violent retarded kind of way, so no one noticed.orHe was so out of touch with reality that he genuinely thought his actions would not result in any consequences. Or that the Starks and Baratheons wouldn't dare start shit against him, no matter what he did.
>>218128167>Alyn had a pudgy face with curly blond hair the color of dark honeyJesse Plemons
>>218126192Could Dunk and Egg get the One Ring to Mount Doom?
>>218128015It's a hyper-retard move that isolates the Targaryens against pretty much the entire rest of the realm.>Starks and Baratheons hate you for taking Lyanna>Dornish see it as an insult towards your legal Dornish wife>you've had a strained relationship with the Lannisters for years because Aerys couldn't stop being a little shit to Tywin>Arryns are likely to be aligned with the Starks and Baratheons because of Jon's friendship with Robert and Ned>Tullys are on the verge of marrying their daughter to the Stark heirPlus you know your father is insane and will further fuck it up, which he does. The perfect shitstorm to end 300 years of Targaryen rule.
>>218128167Matty Cardarople
>>218128189Dunk may probably endure the ring the same way than Sam did>I've seen your dreams , you want to be a good knight, I can make you the greatest and most famed knight the Seven Kingdoms had ever seen>but I just want to be an ordinary hedge knight, that's good enough for methe Ring however would probably corrupt Egg with dreams of dragons and of the power to enforce his reforms on the lords of Westeros
>>218128189No chance whatsoever, Egg has big dreams and it's immediately going to start telling him "I can give you the power to reshape the realm in your desired image"
>>218128189No, because they're both human and humans are even more susceptible to the ring's bullshit than elves.
>>218128232There are no humans in a world with dragons and ice zombies.
>>218128222forget to add,Egg would get corrupted before even arriving at the mountainDunk would resist all the way but give in to the temptation at the very last moment like Frodo did and according to Tolkien everybody would have
>>218128196Why didn't Rhaegar and Lyanna just cook up some nonsense where Lyanna was going to be a lady-in-waiting to Elia or something? At least give some kind of plausible cover to what they were doing even if Lyanna was disobeying her father, so people don't just think she was kidnapped.Lyanna is equally to blame for not just sending her dad and brother letter saying she did it willingly, and instead letting them get murdered trying to demand her return.
>>218127698It comes from an earlier draft of the Tyrion chapter where he leaves Ilyrio and joins up with the Young Griff crew. Ilyrio mentions having THE sword (if not explicitly saying it's Blackfyre, can't remember) but that portion got changed from the final draft, so who knows for sure
>>218128196It was inevitable. Royals like Baelor Breakspear who got the memo that not having dragons means you have to tread lightly and be smart were apparently far and few between. Sooner or later the lords were going to get tired of being ruled by an enclave of deranged albinos
>>218128189Nope not a chance.
>>218128210kek I can see it
>>218128189No, but Dunk and Raymun (post-Stevron betrayal) almost could. Raymun wouldn't be able to carry Dunk for the final leg.
>>218128189No, you fucking retard. The rings of power have vastly different effects depending on the race of the holder. Frodo and Sam only just barely managed to get the job done, despite the fact that they had a massive natural defense against the corruption of the ring. Dunc and Egg are both mostly human, And the only human who held the One Ring made it maybe 50 miles before going full on dark edge lord schizo, and succumbing to its power
>>218128247and this is why the fat man is never finishing the books
>>218128152>is there a more cursed existence than gay incel ?being a /tv/cel
>>218128189if we get rid of the whole humans will always be corrupted by the ring rule, i believe so but Egg will be corrupted and Dunk will have to stop him
>>218128249Ilyrio is speaking with one of his servants in a language Tyrion doesn't fully understand but overhears, and he makes out the words "Queen" and "Sword". Illyrio also says elsewhere that he has an important gift for Griff. It's hardly definitive but it makes sense for Blackfyre to be in Essos and in the orbit of the Golden Company.
>>218128189There's no hedge knight character that would've gotten the ring from shire to rivendell
>>218128247Because she was fucking 15 years old lmao (Rhaegar was 23). What do you think 15 year old teenage girls think about?
>>218128247It's been stated repeatedly. He was a full blown drooling retard. Lyanna being an idiot could be largely just what happens when a 16yo girl sees prince sephiroth calling her beautiful
>>218127785Him.The most dangerous man in Dorne, his excellency Dr. Pastor Gerold Darkstar Dayne.
>>218128300i mean dany is 14
>>218128189>Robert Baratheon, Arthur Dayne, Bloodraven, Shiera, Daemon Blackfyre, Barristan the Bold, Jaime Lannister, Aemon the dragon knight, Sandoq, Sandor, and prime Duncanyou will need these people to even have a hope of getting the ring to MinasTirith
>>218128336Boromir solos.
>>218128325>falls madly in love with the first Chad Thundercock to rape her senselessYes, exactly. Teenaged foids are particularly retarded.
Is the last episode tomorrow?
>>218128300Half the main characters in this series are this age or younger
>>218128325And left ruin everywhere she touched in essos while constantly getting used by mercenaries and barbarians as a onahole
>>218128271Hobbits are meant to represent ordinary, salt of the earth people (humans) who are happy with what they haveI agree that in the story their ability to resist the Ring is clearly superior to that of humans and yet because it ultimately derives from qualities they share with humans (to a greater degree) I think that humans with "hobbitish" qualities and persoannlity could pull it, Dunk appears to fulfill these conditionsEgg is also innocent of course and accodring to his brother Aemon kept that innocene in his adulthood until at least his coronation but I think his noble upbringing already gave him a sense of his own greatness that the Ring might exploit to manipulate him
>>218128343possibly but that's cause theres a gap between the verses, i'm saying you'd need the best of asoiaf fighters to make it even close and even then they'd still fall to the dangers if not corruption
>>218128325Yeah, and she's left a trail of corpses in her path to no one's benefit.
>>218128360>Dunk appears to fulfill these conditionsDunk wants be a knight so badly he lives a lie to achieve thathe was a little monster in Flea BottomThere are too big dreams and ambitions to pull on, he's very easily corrupted by the ring.
>>218128445>he was a little monster in Flea BottomCANONICALLY WRONG. He was an innocent qt with a brown tomboy gf.
>>218128359>sar please you must listen>she is da crazy albino witch>we Ghiscari are a people of di peace, we only want to do the trafick in slevs, it is only biznis
>>218128271The ring was able to affect humans who weren't even wearing it. It had Boromir totally ensorcelled from the safety of Frodo's pocket in like a month. Dunk and egg would have fought to the death over the ring in a matter of weeks.
>>218128360It's not just hobbits and humans. As I understand it, All of the Rings of Power have basically the same ability to corrupt their holder and intensify their darker base motivations (except the 3 elvish rings that are different because "... THEY JUST ARE, STOP ASKING"). The humans succumb to their lust for power, and become powerful ringwraiths. The dwarves succumb to their lust for wealth, getting Dragon Sickness, and digging too deep. We get a glimpse of a corrupted elf through Galadriel, she would possibly reach the same level of power and evil as Sauron himself, since elf souls are immortal and the closest thing middle earth has to the Maiar spirits
>>218128488You can say she had good intentions, but in practice she's making their situation worse. By the time she's done with Slaver's Bay, they will have lived through a war and plague and still be slaves.
>>218128469Fairly certain that he refers to himself as such in his inner monologue.
>>218128488Oh fuck off, same retarded argument every failed revolution makes"The guys before were bad, so us turning everything into a fucking shithole is justified!"No, its not, if you want to end slavery, do it while planning a transition of power and ensure a new system replaces the old in a stable manner, and stay there to deal with the consequences.She fucking left the city in flames and the results were as expected: even worse than slavery, followed by slavery coming back again. Great win Dany, you helped absolutely nobody while making anti slavery movements synonymous with barbarism in the area for centuries, good fucking job
>>218128469
I dun want it
>>218128622Truly the precursor to wHaT WOuld yoU HavE me doOo?!
>>218127546I'm so tired of all the "Bloodraven/Bran did it" posting
>>218128189They can't. Aemon the Dragonknight is the only man in this setting who could. He had an insane willpower, and there's literally nothing to tempt him. He resisted all things that he wanted in his life, always upholding his oath. He died saving the man he hated, even knowing that letting him die would mean his beloved sister would finally be free and happy.
>>218128564>dis is di westerosi imperialism >we are a traditional pipol, but ivin so ouar societii based on child soldias and di undarage sex slaves would eventually reform unda di gradual progressYou sound like you're upset that you're not allowed to eat an albino.
>>218128336>Bloodravenliterally the last person i want on this mission
>>218128590Call me crazy Ranjeet but as I don't subscribe to moral relativism I don't believe that a society that bases its economy on an industrialized Jeffry Epstein operation deserves to exist.
>>218128672The fucking blackfyrefags can't stop sucking bloodravens dick. Every fucking day non stop hurrbdurr warging.
>Let two women run a civil war>Everyone dies except one guy who's so traumatized he's scared of dragons and as consequence compromises the throneWhat did GURMM mean with this?
>>218128336>wears ring>Becomes SUPER BOLTON
>>218128343Easily and it isn't even close. Even the average Gondorian soldier will mog that entire lineup.
>>218128674By which I mean Bittersteel, the man who spent his life determinedly trying to fulfil his holy duty against all odds. Only he has the mental fortitude to carry the Ring.
>>218128469>CANONICALLY WRONG.It is literally a line from the novellas that Dunk's group of street thugs were 'little monsters' and he was the worst one of them.
>>218128722>Call me crazy Ranjeet but as I don't subscribe to moral relativismNeither do I, which is why when I see that the consequences of an action are absolutely disastrous and immoral, while also preserving in the long term the immorality of slavery and fixing nothing, I call that dubious at best.Dany is a teenager, it makes sense that's what she would end up causing while trying to do good.>industrialized Jeffry EpsteinOh fuck off to X or redditThis place did this meme years ago, you're late with this meaning you're probably new.
>>218128672That is entirely on George having his sonic OC gallivanting around influencing the outcome of events while under a magical spell.
>>218128765>Implying he would not fail immediately to the opportunity to use the ring against Cuckraven
>>218128672Blame George. He really went full retard with muh prophecy much greenseers muh time travel bullshit especially when it infected the Targaryens.
>>218128768C A N O N I C A L L Y W R O N G . Dunk didn't have a group of street thugs, he only ran with his qt brown street rat klepto girl friend and he was waiting for his mom and he was going to sail to a better land before the goldcloaks cruelly killed his gf and he was saved by Arlan. Dumbass.
>>218128777>Oh fuck off to X or reddit>This place did this meme years ago, you're late with this meaning you're probably newI don't know what exactly you're sperging out over but you should probably reread storm if you're confused on the economy of Astapor.
>>218128765>the man who spent his life determinedly trying to fulfil his holy duty against all odds.I'm beginning to think that Lord of the Rings is genuinely too high brow for people.
>>218128726Blackfyre hate Bloodraven though ; do you mean the Targs ?
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>>218128824Rafe was a boy in the novellas by the way.
>>218128857No? The blackfyrefags can't stop talking about him>DUDE HE LE WARGED AND KILLED BAELOR XD
>>218128824Stop coping ser.
>the scene where Dunk is about the knight Rayman he has to run off to find the 7th person for the trial>didn't even factor in he probably doesn't even remember the words for it, so Lyonnel does it10/10
>>218128911Dunk was never knighted himself so he couldn't knight Raymun even if he wanted to or had the time.
>>218128152Jon Connington
>bloodraven>bittersteelFucking kek is this the general for deviantart OCs?
>>218128931he could have faked it as long long as he knew the right words. I'm glad he didn't tho, because being knighted by a powerful Lord is definitely so much better than being knighted by a literally who hedge knight
>>218128947Bittersteel is cool as fuck though
>>218128931>Dunk was never knighted himself so he couldn't knight Raymun even if he wanted to or had the time.Dunk literally said he was knighted by Ser Arlan while he was dying. It happened offscreen.
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>>218128911Dunk, despite lying about his knighthood, is an honorfag and knew it would be wrong for a false knight to 'infect' Raymun with his own falseness. Even if he knew the words, Dunk did not want to spread his lie to other people.
>>218129033Are you pretending to be retarded? You better not be.
>>218129033Lmao
>>218129033True, I forgot about that
I'm getting fucking tired of you people who keep impugning Ser Duncan the Tall's honor. Cast no more aspersions lest I lop your fool head off before its mouth besmirches another good knight's name.
>>218128189Egg couldn’t but i’m sure Dunk could. He’s too humble to have the “let me save the world” chimpout that Aaragorn or Boromir would. The only downside is Dunk trying to remain unseen through Mordor is lol
Azor Hot Pie
>>218129157Dunk's a human at the end of the day, and has his own aspirations. He'd fall prey to the ring eventually. The only reason hobbits are so resilient is because they have literally no ambitions or aspirations beyond the simplest life. Dunk wasn't ok with the simplest life (because that life is shit in Westeros) and wanted more, wanted knighthood. He'd surely last longer then men like Boromir but he'd eventually succumb too.
>>218129143He was neither a Ser, nor named Duncan, nor really that tall
Maekar must be feeling like shit now since his son made him kill his brother
>>218129157Dunc literally wants to be a knight so bad he's willing to lie about it.
>>218129248Maekar has felt like shit most of his life but yeah in World of Ice and Fire i think George wrote that Maekar never smiled again after the trial, until the day he died.
>>218129157The ring tempted Samwise with gardening
>>218129244KekAll true
>>218129264>Maekar never smiled again after the trial, until the day he died.damn, he just like me frfr
>>218128765>>218128798>>218129006re reading the Mystery Knight novella recently and I just realized somethingmost people speculate that Bittersteel didn't support Daemon/Fiddler because he's gay and that's probably part of the answer but it is also Daemon and Peake's plan that he doubted https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Daemon_II_Blackfyre>In Tyrosh, Daemon dreamed that a dragon would be born at Whitewalls. Lord Gormon Peake, a Blackfyre supporter, somehow heard of this, and convinced Daemon to cross the narrow sea and make a play for the Iron Throne. The pretext for gathering other lords to support Daemon was a wedding tourney that Lord Ambrose Butterwell would hold in 212 AC, at which the grand prize would be Butterwell's dragon egg. However, Bittersteel did not think much of Peake's plan, and mistrusted Daemon's dreams (or perhaps was troubled by his homosexuality), and so did not give him his support nor the sword Blackfyre.[2][1]https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Aegor_Rivers>Many believe that Daemon and Lord Gormon Peake could not convince Aegor that their plan was sensible and could succeed despite the odds. Some think Bittersteel was a man who had little use for anything but war and distrusted Daemon's dreams and love of fine things, and some think Daemon's homosexuality troubled Aegor enough to deny him his assistance.[7] what really bothered Bittersteel is that he distrusted all talks of prophetic dreams and dragons being reborn and I think the reason why is that ultimately it reminded him of Bloodraven; he knew that Brynden was skilled in something that he could never master himself nor even understands and he knew it stemmend form Bloodraven's Blackwood heritage whom he hated because he was himself a Bracken, he refused to use anything that might make him seems like his hated brother to even to win
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>>218129330https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Aegor_Rivers>Angry all of his life, Aegor never smiled.[6] Reportedly, he was a hard man who had little use for anything beyond war.[7] Bittersteel was easily irritated and offended, sometimes attributed to his Bracken blood.[2] Aegor especially loathed his younger half-brother, Brynden Rivers, and Brynden's mother, Melissa Blackwood, who had replaced Aegor's mother, Barba Bracken, as King Aegon IV Targaryen's mistress.[6]he's basically a Targ version of Victarion Greyjoy
>>218129322Maekar being a miserable cunt who tries his best but just makes things worse for himself and others seems to be a relatable thing.
>>218128870Putting a dying man (who's also a member of the "flay you alive" house) out of his misery is literally the most morally correct thing he could do there.
>>218129033People are dunking on him but some autistic people have issues with taking things literally it's not his fault
>>218129549How morally correct you are is not a factor in the rings corruption
