Incestous aliens editionPrevious>>218140225
>>218143237the accusator is the same dishonorable retard that did that so yes its actually related to the current issue
What of the Kingsguard?
>>218143192Early GoT had so much soul.
sex with baelor breakspear
>>218143283Take a lance to the heart, Beesbury. I will proceed to do nothing.
>>218143281>accusatorSmh ESLs need to have extra captchas to prove they’re worthy of posting
>>218143283don't worry beesbury, they'll kill you in the first charge
>>218143283You're not going to beelieve this...
What is best in life? To sting your enemies, see them driven abuzz before you, and the pollinations of the women."
>>218143324KEK
>>218143310Comfy.
What's his egg-game? (endgame)
>>218143283more like bees-buried LMAO
>>218143351>What is best in life?bed time
>>218143351kek
>>218143359Winning the Game of Thrones before turning to the camera and exclaiming, "That's all, yolks!"
>>218143283
>>218143359hatching this dragon... with no survivors!
>>218143359total targ genocide
post yfw we're watching Dunk & Egg season 10 and Egg starts talking about Aegon's dream and pulls out The Dagger™
How long until the episode drops, and what's the stream?
>>218143283jack o lantern ahh looking nigga
>>2181434755 hours
I don't think anything after season 05 of Game of Thrones is good.
>>218143517me but including and after season 2
>>218143517Season 5 wasn't good neither.
Would Aemon have been a good king if he went for the crown at the great council?
Where are the strong women?
>>218143469>retroactively the most important artifact in the entire universe>they STILL haven't properly named that stupid thing
>>218143517Season 5 is already troubled. I stop watching after season 4.
>>218143565Larys killed them all. Not just the strong boys, but the strong girls and the strong women too.
>>218143567its aegon's dagger
>>218143506What's the stream?
>>218143590https://leekspin.co/
>>218143601What's the stream?
>>218143469>>218143567It's such a stupid fucking dagger.
this episode will suck
>>218143639please no, I wouldn't be able to take it
>>218143554>>218143569Truth be told, I do not remember which episode is which. What stayed with me was Stannis burning his daughter at the stake and Sansa keeping her plan to herself, holding back information even when it might have helped others.all of this was stupid
I don't want to watch HotD season 3.
This guy is fucking hilarious, like a Mount & Blade character who made it to the books. What shenanigans do you think get up to next?
>>218143683*he'll get up to
>>218143667i haven't watched>GoT>season 3 through 8>HoTD>most of season 1, season 2, won't be watching 3 and 4total niggard death
>>218143683>>218143701Heh you know what would be really funny? If he got into a buddy cop adventure to Dorne, where he has to rescue Myrcella and see in what ebin misadventures he ends up in
>>218143683Man’s killing off his in-laws while fucking his sweet, retarded, possibly downie wife. Living the dream, in many ways.
>"Targshits"When did this board become racist agains valyrian immigrants?
>>218143683>here’s your lord of highgarden broRealistically how long would he last before he’s taken out by reach lords
Bros I'm not ready for /got/ to disappear from the catalog for months...
>it'll be 3am when the last episode is released
>>218143659Season 4 ends with... >Stannis teleporting his army beyond the wall to save the day>Bran reaches the Bloodraven tree>Arya takes a boat to Bravos >Tyrion escapes King's Landing and kills his dad + Shae on his way outIt's basically the point where D&D run out of book material. Season 4 is pretty good, but they are already setting up their own dumbass plot lines.
>>218143746The Rowans, Hightowers and whatever other house they didn't kill off kick him out within a week, and then fight over who gets it instead.
>get betrothed>cry and piss and shit your pants>get betrothed>cry and piss and shit your pants>get married>cry and piss and shit your pants>get betrothed>cry and piss and shit your pants>get littlefingered>cry and piss and shit your pants>get married and raped>cry and piss and shit your pants>R QUEEN THE QUEEN OF DA NORF?????
>>218143767is this the RoP elrond doing blackface?
>>218143517...you do like season 6
>>218143814PLEASE dont try and make sense of their fanfiction seasons. Its obvious they just kept regurgitating buzzwords people clung on to.
>>218143814It was an apology for the rape scene.
>>218143422How the hell did he get stabbed through his breastplate and why didn't he use his shield? Also he really only died so that fat man gets to peddle his favourite theme of "sometimes you just die", huh?
>>218143567For years I thought the thing was called "Catspaw" but apparently that's the name for a hired assassin.
>>218143960One of the Kingsguard put a war lance through him, innit.
>>218143683>help's Faegon take King's Landing due to his key location at Stokeworth, gets another massive reward for changing sides>hears Dany is coming with dragons>betrays Aegon to Dany or just runs>Tarly and his son are probably going to side with Faegon and die like in the show(friend's in the Reach)>kills his retard wife and marries Tarly's daughter, who has Florent blood>become lord of highgardenthe show ending honestly might not be wrong, Bronn is big brained in the books and is constantly making the right move for the biggest gain to himself. Fucker will probably end up with stokeworth, Highgarden, and Horn Hill
>>218143469please no
>>218143972Same lol
>Storm's End is in the east>Rob is clearly a yorkshireman (norf)boy I sure hope someone got fired for that blunder
Reminder that Beesbury is going to steal tonight's episode.
>>218143814It's more like>Get held a prisoner, get abused but it all builds up to you becoming the player of the game>Get fucked in the ass>???>THE QUEEN IN DA NORF
>>218143469Preston has already seen the full season. Do you think he does his "Dagger Watch" bit because he knows it'll pay off in the last episode?
>>218144034From his coffin?
>>218143814She's the smartest person I know
>>218143993But the shield!
Take heart, Sneedsbury: I will get my head caved in by a mace.
>Highgarden is the breadbasket of the seven kingdoms>Lannisters are more powerful because they have access to a useless metal???
Cute and canon!
>>218143283>I will ride beehind them and flank
>>218144088gold can be exchanged for goods and services
>>218143814>>218144037>give arya's entire plot to Sansa(fake arya is married to Ramsay, Jon's entire motive for betraying his vows and dying is Arya, GRRM has said Nymeria's wolfpack will fight Ramsay's hounds, Arya probably involved in taking back Riverlands and North)>arya has nothing to do now, so have her kill Night's King so she isn't useless>fuck up the entire show as a resultGRRM has all but confirmed he plans to kill off Sansa recently, she's never been anything but a POV needed as an observer and was never considered a core character by GRRM. Her whole plot with LF to take over the Vale probably gets exposed and she rightfully gets -ACKD for poisoning her own cousin
I think the apple's rotten right to the coreFrom all the things passed downFrom all the apples coming beforeI split the apple down symmetrical linesAnd what I find is kinda scaryMakes me just wanna drive
>>218144144naah bruh grrm said that the show was just like his ending kek
>>218143878>their fanfiction seasonsOne or two years ago fans (re-)discovered old, internal summaries of the last two books. And they line up pretty well with a lot of points from the later seasons. So apparently DnD really got a list of plotpoints from Grrm and worked off those. That's maybe why he still likes them, while he hates HotD's Condal who really did his own fanfic.
>>218144037This is also the hollywood child actor pipe line, grrm is such a hack
You are now a Lord in Westeros. Who do you choose as your whore?
>>218143911IIRC, George recently said he did actually mean to kill off Sansa but is reconsidering it because of the TV show. It does demonstrate how much nagging normies have derailed the series even the books. I feel like if more of them were spoiled on the Red Wedding they’d have re-wrote so Robb and Cat survive.
>>218144088the reach is similar to the Riverlands in that it's rarely united because the Lord Paramounts were installed by Targs and hold minimal respect from their vassals. Actually a rare smart move by the TargsLannisters have 40-50K soldiers who follow them 100%, the Reach has 3 different factions with 20-30K soldiers
>>218144169>(after the seasons aired) fans found summaries of the last two bookslmao how retarded are you
>>218144169>That's maybe why he still likes themHe also kept saying he was going to release his next book, which never happened. The showrunners even added filler shit like the sand snakes in the hopes of the next book coming out.So the failure of the series is at least partially his fault.
>>218144222>tfw "bad poosi" was grrms only insert for that entire episode
>>218144088>>218144138Realistically, the Riverlands and the Reach would had annexed the Westerlands long ago.
>>218144222>it's grrm's fault the show was terrible!!!onewhat is with this retarded death-of-the-author shit that these midwits try to pull whenever they feel like justifying why they spent ten years watching that shitty tv show?
>>218144222to be fair to GRRM they could have given him 2-3 more seasons of breathing room if they'd actually adapted the book storylines properly. In hindsight it wouldn't matter, but there was a lot of kino in the books they just skipped because they were already rushing towards the end way before the final season
>>218144222>So the failure of the series is at least partially his fault.It's entirely on him, D&D were adapting it thinking he was going to finish both books before the series ended. They were there to adapt a story not make OC out of his summaries. Their only problem, and they didn't know this, but some fans did, GRRM gave up on the series in 2000 when he lost the Hugo award to Harry Potter.
>>218144191Karsi
>guys dabid and dan were the good guys all alongbro...
>>218144258Riverlands was historically passed around like a whore because it can't be defended conventionally, they weren't annexing shit. The Reach was busy defending itself against the Stormlands, Ironborn, and Dorne. And invading the Westerlands is almost impossible unless you've got a Direwolf to find you a game trail through the hills
>>218144222I can’t recall much of season 5 that pushed any of the story any further forward. Stannis died, but most of his scenes were marching south to face Ramsay, and then season 6 just has Jon do the same. Arya spends a year training and does nothing. Jaime has his Dorne side quest. I don’t remember a single Brienne scene. Bran isn’t even in the season (D&D justified this as skipping his training and then you’d see him in S6 fully trained; S6 comes around and he’s still a novice). I’m convinced George told them Winds was almost finished so they fucked around for a year to buy him some more time to get it published.
>>218144315>trying to "remove as many fantasy elements as possible" from fantasy story about dragons and ice zombieswhat was their fucking problem
>>218144169>That's maybe why he still likes them, while he hates HotD's Condal who really did his own fanfic.that's not the only reason George refuses to slander D&D. it's mostly because initially he promised to them and to HBO that he'd catch up and they would never have to invent the story themselves, they'd only have to adapt his books and he'd help them throughhe broke that promise so he feels like it's on him that D&D had to come up with random cloakshit nonsensewith HOTD it's different, the whole book was there, his advice and support was there constantly, and yet the HOTD showrunners decided to break off and do their own thing after pushing him out, even though it was George's own support that got them their jobs. that's why he's really mad
>>218144191You know what, I can't think of a single hot actress in the shows.
>>218144060It's funny, the Sansa of the earlier seasons, the one that D&D tell us needed to be raped to get away from her victim status was still smarter than the catty bitch they've made her into in season 8. It seems like the showrunners thought "if i'm the queen i'll make them love me" was some bullshit and Cersei was in the right here. But then again they've made Arya admire Lannisters so idk.
>>218144315nfl players are an important demographic for any show desu
>>218144315>adapting a fantasy book>hate all fantasy elements(except for the dragons)leaving out Stoneheart trashes at least 3 major character arcs, D&D showed they were brainlets who didn't understand the series they were adapting very early. Similar deal with whitewashing Cat's treatment of Jon in the first place and changing Robb's waifu. bookfags called them hacks early but people loved the sloppa
>>218144144>GRRM has all but confirmed he plans to kill off Sansa recently, she's never been anything but a POV needed as an observer and was never considered a core character by GRRM. Her whole plot with LF to take over the Vale probably gets exposed and she rightfully gets -ACKD for poisoning her own cousinYeah sure lmao.
reminder that Lord Stark (pbuh), the confirmed most honorable and reasonable man in the universe, singularly told Stannis Baratheon of the truth of Robert's children and therefore implicitly recognised that he was the true heir to the throne.
>>218144315As someone who worked in a huge company at a big position a few years back, you have no idea how strong the pressure to 'normify' your products is. The people in the company who correctly point out the dangers of doing that are usually the people who are far less convincing and socially dominant than the sharks who promise shareholders better return of investment by normifying the product stack. Even if D&D said they'd keep it fantasy, I guarantee you that HBO higherups would strongarm them into pandering to football players and housewives. Because viewership matters more than quality, to them.
>>218144315>dumb and dumber have literal contempt for the magic elements of the story and cut out major characters and plot lines accordinglyall gurms fault btw
>>218143283why didn't beesbury use his bankai
>>218144405he outright said he planned to kill her and the show made him "consider" leaving her alive. Even if she lives I highly doubt she ends up queen in the north. Arya's the one with the training and foreshadowing for that in the books
What the fuck was his plan even? Just declare himself king in the confusion and start raiding until the situation on the continent resolved and the lords buck broke the Iron Islands again?
>>218144452stop giving attention to grifters who post ambivalent vague leaks, it is literally nothing more than engagement bait
>>218144196>kill off SansaNever happening. He wouldn't have her holed up in the safest place in Westeros and wouldn't write Littlefinger all but giving away his entire game to her if that was the case.
>>218144452>red priestess revived beesburynice
>>218144452>a few more hours before anyone will ever talk about this tranny bait ever again
>>218144460cooldown
>>218144484Iron islanders aren't known for their genius.
>>218144401>leaving out Stoneheart trashes at least 3 major character arcsThe worst thing is their justification for this is total horseshit, the show was a smash hit and the biggest series in the world by the time they needed to do Stoneheart, they were not going to suddenly alienate normies by adding more fantasy elements at that point.
>>218144452>raymun turns to the camera and says 'all pedos must hang'holy based
>even baelor liked raymunHoly fucking based
>>218144440the whole reason the show got popular in the first place was because it went against almost all standard expectations. normies would have basedjacked watching zombie Catelyn lynch Freys
I forgot that HotD made Daemon the "Night King" in show canon. His motive for marching south is to restore the Targaryen dynasty to the throne, he is cursed in some dormant state only to awake and amass troops in case of emergency.This is his motive and it's why he can fly a dragon.A lot will get retconned to make this happen, it'll be a tragic love story and normies will love it
>>218143878>Varys no cockSomehow D&D thought this was peak humor
>>218144563take your meds
>>218144550>we can't have this in the show, nobody wants to see boring white men. let's get a niggard flashback insteadTHIS IS GURM'S FAULT!!!!
>>218144426we all know that anon
i never much cared for Lady Stoneheart even in the book, and i'm not bothered that d&d cut her from the storynot excusing their other shortcomings as showrunners and lord knows there are many, but i don't think even GRRM has an actual clue of how to involve Lady Stoneheart satisfyingly into the rest of the story
>>218144590that girl wasn't even black, that's slightly darker than white.
>>218144368They actually thought Cersei was one of the good guys.
>>218144452post it one more time anon
>>218144452How exactly would a conversation need to go for Raymun to start talking about Trump?
>>218144563it's crazy they even attempt to tie the story to the white walkers, it just reminds people of how shit the GOT ending was and how the story leads to a shit ending. I'd do anything possible to avoid reminding viewers>all our actions are justified because we need to be in charge to save the world>only reason the wall falls is the dragons>targs play almost no role in defeating them>turns out it was mostly a nothingburger anywayit just makes the Targs look even more retarded
>>218144222>>218144293>>218144362They were fucking up the story long before they've run out of books.
>>218144659the whole "Daemon stops acting like a fucktard and becomes actually loyal to Rhaenyra because he saw spooky visions" is so fucking retarded it instantly ruined the show
>>218144614it's less about Stoneheart herself and more about how she ties into the character arcs of Arya, Jaime, and Brienne. Maybe even Jon, with the parallel of them both being zombies trying to avenge the Starks. Catelyn was planned to become a zombie from the original outline, it's one of the few things GRRM thought was important enough to plan that far ahead and there's a reason it's one of the few changes he publicly bitched about in regards to GOT
>>218144657>Imagine it Dunk. If we accept rule from these silver haired kinslaying ghouls what's next? A king who's a fat old man that dyes himself like an orange?
>>218144358They took AFFC and ADWD and butchered them at the stake, it has nothing to do with GRRM not finishing the books.
>>218144191None, I shall remain faithful to my wife Arya Stark.
>>218144726AFFC and ADWD are not good books and barely adaptable on a basic level because very little happens in either of them. It doesn't excuse them turning it into bad pussy and the like but let's not act like the source material is good once you're at that point.
>>218144216Sorry, I forgot that not everyone here follows the fan news and happenings. I'll give you a summary: It was an old back-cover blurb for TWoW that "leaked" 13 years ago from amazon, before we got the later seasons of the show. Grrm denied it at the time, and no one took it serious. But not too long ago the blurb was "rediscovered" in the fan community. You can read it here for example: https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/sscux/i_messaged_grrm_about_the_twow_blurb_that_amazon/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pureasoiaf/comments/11nwr62/do_you_think_any_of_this_blurb_is_still_valid/ Notice how this lines up with what later happened in the show: Dany in Westeros, a big political alliance of Stark and Lannister, a daring mission beyond the wall, a final battle at Winterfell. There was a big discussion ~2years ago about how that blurb might have been based on some kind of outline by Grrm (for a book that still worked on a 5 year time skip) and how those plot points were also what he gave to DnD. It could also just be a coincidence. The blurb is rather generic and it's unclear how and why Grrm would forward a TWoW summary to his publisher (?), who would then foward it to amazon (?), who then have an intern write a poetic blurb for it.
it was only four minutes into the show and despite the crapping gaffe, this intro and the gentle music was enough to convince me i was in for kino
>>218144753>reddit postskek zoomers really do believe everything they read onlineit's ok lilbro enjoy your fanfic, everyone is gonna write their own after GRRM croaks
>>218144778Let's do a fun exercise and all list the top 3 misfires in K7K so far. Here's mine:>1st episode shit spray>the fart>fortune teller scene
>>218144749those books were critical for setting up the final conflicts so they made sense. Instead they skipped the majority and somehow made Euron into the worst possible combination of Victarion and Euron from the books. The main issue is that adapting the books faithfully requires showing that Cersei is retarded and they loved her actor so they refused to do it>>218144736>t. jon snow
>>218144144There's enough Shaggydog stories in series, GRRM wouldn't make Sansa one.>she's never been anything but a POV needed as an observer and was never considered a core characterMost of Stark children are like this. Doesn't mean they don't have a role to play in the endgame.
>>218144484I think Balon intended to sort of colonise/enslave the North, claiming their small folk would be made into “thralls and salt wives all”. In the books it’s strongly implied many of Yara/Asha’s supporters at the kingsmoot realise this is retarded and support a limited plan of just being ceded minor northern coastal territories (farmlands and timber) in return for a peace treaty. She gets a third of the captains support before Euron interrupts with his magic dragon-binding horn (and not his big cock).
>>218144828Filtered.Shit spray was kino
>>218144614>Jaime's cousin is marrying a Frey at Riverrun>Tom o' Sevens (the bard from the brotherhood without banners) is at Riverrun>Stoneheart and the rest of the brotherhood are in the general areaGRRM is (or was) probably planning some kind of ironic sequel to the red wedding.
>>218144828>elongated flashback right in the middle of the Trial>the absence of the "a knight who remembered his vows" moment from the novella>Bracken fartthose were the worst so far IMOi don't mind the shit spray honestly, it's a scene completely seperated from anything else so it doesn't do damage. the fart was way worse because it killed the tension in a serious moment
how long till the stream?
>>218144828>fortune teller>plummer joust cheating subplot that went nowhere>otho farting
>>218144753>post from 14 years ago>comment saying they lost a bit of hope because GRRM said Winds was still mostly unwrittenhow the fuck does that fat fuck live with himself? Just admit you're never finishing it. The fact he's letting actors give out spoilers and approving shit like the Harrenhal play that will also have spoilers all but confirms that he won't finish, just admit it publicly
>>218144828The prostitute scenesThe Alice with three fingers dialogue
>>218143324>Says he will exploit his authority over the three kingsguard to cheese the fight>"Is that honorable, milord?">"The gods will decide.">the gods killed 3 on their side, including BaelorI'm sick and tired of people trying to say "he was one of the good ones". The gods have spoken. ALL targshits are dishonorable sister fuckers
>>218144840>There's enough Shaggydog stories in series, GRRM wouldn't make Sansa one.Jon, Bran, and Arya were described as part of GRRM's core 5 with Dany and Tyrion. The ones who were critical and whose endgame he had planned basically from the start. Robb was never a POV because he was intended to die. Sansa was never considered critical to the story, she's the original Areo Hotah to let us see what is happening in King's Landing and with Littlefinger. She hasn't taken a single action that actually impacted the story, she's a passive observer
>>218144834>The main issue is that adapting the books faithfully requires showing that Cersei is retardedAnd North being loyal, can't have that. And and Jon doing morally dubious things and Tyrion being a misanthropic wretch and Daenerys trying to govern instead of burning and threatening everyone and Stannis not dying from being a dumbass and Brienne doing heroic things and Young Griff existing and challenging Kelly C's claim etc.
>>218144909>The Alice with three fingers dialogueliterally memoryholed this from my own brain, need to change my answers, along with egg trying to make it some philosophical shit
>>218144401I always thought Stoneheart, more dorne and more greyjoys all would have been terrible if they were added to the show. The books clearly start going off the rails in Feast they were actually smart not to get burdened with all George’s loose ends. They didn’t do a good job tying up the main storylines but at least a TV writer who gave a shit might have been able to do it which can’t be said for what a straight adaption of everything through Dance.
>>218143960He didn't use the breastplate stretcher.
>>218144952She got the Hound to change, that's something. Bran is being dragged around like a deadweight and Arya doesn't have much agency either.>she's the original Areo Hotah to let us see what is happening in King's Landing and with LittlefingerShe's way better written and thematically important than that.
>>218144828So far I've seen man ass shitting and a gigantic dick pissing. I haven't so much as seen cleavage. It's true. They outlawed female nudity and gave us male nudity that is a 100% more vulgar than the former ever was.
>>218144828The shit spray works because it's meant to take the piss out of the theme song, but then it gets redeemed in episode 4 when Baelor shows up and the new version of the theme plays that's absolutely awesome (the song and the scene). It's dumb, but it's there. The fart was bad though.
>>218145037Are you retarded? There's tits in the first episode.
>>218143359Child sacrifice
>>218144088>Has 8000 years of hemorrhoid of gold mines>No inflation or gold value collapsing >The amount of foods that the Reach has to give to other places, with the shit roads in the realm, the animals carrying the foods will eat more food than what they're carryingJorge RR Martinez didn't even bother to look up basic economics or logical history. He just glanced at the English medieval history then ripped it off.
>>218143359One egg is forty eggs?
>>218144865the first two you mentioned are the show's only major mistakes so far
kwab
>>218144191>BushCum.
>>218144865>the absence of the "a knight who remembered his vows" moment from the novellaHaving not read the books, this made absolutely no difference whatsoever. It's all still completely evident through Dunk's actions.
>>218144073me on the left
>>218145011They show went off the rails anyway, why not adapt all the insane bonkers shit like Euron becoming an eldritch god emperor or Victarion's burning hand? Stuff like Dorne could've easily been adapted and taken to it's logical conclusion i.e Doran's plans going up in flame and it would've given us some kino moments along the way like his "fire and blood" monologue.
>>218144657Wasn't that the king who just died? I guess they could imply some orange weirdo becomes king but I don't know the books.
>>218145118yeah, you can't even claim it's a budget issue because of the big show-only battles like Euron killing the Sand Snakes at sea
>>218145037Zoomers get extremely uncomfortable when you put male gaze leering type shots in your shows so now the only nudity allowed is comedic male nudity and grossout nudity
>>218144088Lannisters are more powerful because Tywin is a vicious cunt who would tear your throat out if he senses disrespect. Reach has more soldiers anyway.
F!Aegon will legitimize and marry Mya Stone, uniting the Baratheon and Targaryean claim (after Tommen and Myrcella are dead). The only other candidate then is Stannis. All the realm will unite against the crazy Dragon woman.
>>218145011Dorne you could mostly leave out, but you need Euron as a magical chaos agent, Faegon is critical to Dany, Varys, and Tyrion arcs. Stoneheart is critical to Jaime, Brienne, and Arya arcs. The reason the ending is shit is because D&D left out the plot lines that lead to that ending in a logical way. Euron killing dragons makes sense if he's the book version, but it becomes an asspull in the show
>>218145058If there were and I can't remember, they hardly on the level of 10 inch donkey dick flapping in the wind.
>>218144828my only complaint is cutting "a knight who kept his vows" and Lyonel being like 20 years too old
>>218144778The flashback to Arlan hitting him all those times did it for me probably because I remembered that line in the books too. I don’t like every joke but i’m glad its mostly played as a comedy
>>218145118Looking back, it's crazy that Victarion was cut from the show completely. He would be so much fun to watch
How much of this guy's writing do I have to read to understand all this houselore? I feel like the main books wouldn't even have all that much in terms of depth, given they're telling a story and not encyclopedic.
>>218144191All of them
>>218144778The shittake got a chuckle out of me, because they are literally shitting on people who want the big epic fantasy BS. That's not what the show is about. it's just some poorfag knight and his squire, and the simple title sequence is a great way to show that after all the other shows with their big elaborate title sequences, all you really need is a title drop
>>218145118The last two books just needed to be streamlined and given a climax and that's what the show should've done. Could've even consulted with George on how to best resolve this or that storyline or battle.
>>218145219>How much of this guy's writing do I have to readliterally none of it because he's never going to finish anything.
>>218145219>I feel like the main books wouldn't even have all that much in terms of depthWrong.
>>218145219The worldbuilding is more fun than the actual story honestly
>Criston has taught you well, nephew. But you are not a Targaryen yet
>>218145176>F!AegonFuck off Jon "cuck" Snow fag.
>>218145118one theory is that GRRM asked D&D not to put in a major twist, possibly 2 of Dany's dragons being dragonbound by the Faceless Men (or someone else) which seems to be where the battle of meereen is heading. that would explain how completely nonsensical season 7 gets. another possibility is the GRRM didn't tell them everything because he hadn't really figured out what the fuck he was doing, and he just told them vague shit about how the wall would be destroyed by a dragon, etc.
>>2181448763 hours and 63 minutes.Link?
>>218144828>Lyonel casting and characterization (guy's fun but very obviously not Baratheon material)>episode 5's pacing being killed by the Flea Bottom memories>on-the-nose prophecyshit
>>218144978>egg trying to make it some philosophical shitI thought that it was intended to be comedic.
>>218145226>Could've even consulted with George on how to best resolve thisgeorge doesn't even know which characters he's going to kill off as of 2026, he at best had a list of bulletpoints he gave D&D in 2013 and today its a slightly longer list.
Now explain to me why the king couldn't have multiple wives and all the children he wanted? Is the fucking king.
>>218144828laughing storm didn't laugh at anyonea knight who kind of forgot about his vowsthe flashback being in the middle of the fight (I dont mind the flashback itself, but I dont like where it's put)
>>218145286I just call him that because everyone else does, personally as Rheagar's #1 fagsimp believes he's Aegon and that he looks like a 1:1 clone of Rhaegar would indicate to me is Rhaegar's
>>218145327Polygamy is frowned upon and gives a bad precedent + succession problems down the line
A fool AND a knight? I've never heard of such a thing.
>>218144563hi glidus
>>218145327because it's degenerate, and even ignoring that it almost guarantees a succession crisis
>>218145327The King is ultimately still answerable to the church and their laws, especially now that the dragons are gone
>>218143295Helaena is cute! CUTE!
>>218145293>Link?
>>218145327>Is the fucking king.yeah he's the king, not the god-emperor of the worldkings are powerful but monarchy is bound by laws, tradition, and religionthe Targaryen kings tried to impose all of their autism including constant incest, and they were constantly plagued with uprising and friction until they had to sort of relent for a while and wait until they infiltrate the local institutions until they could do the incest bit againit's not absolute rule, it's feudal monarchy
everyone's always told me I was stupid
>>218144063>Oak and iron, guard me well, or else I'm dead, and doomed to hell
>>218145430............and?
Do great series have generals that host the same posts like TAOOBA and Mario Naharis again and again and live whole days before next bake?i think not/got//hotd/ wasn't gifted with writing or restraint, /got/ was arrogant, lazy/hotd/ whored and pandered, it was a hard series not to hate by the end, ruled the catalog for nigh on 16 years and it was still forgottenwhat chance do i have, truly?/got/ was good to me, /hotd/ weren't family to me but it kept me like we werethey raised me be an honorable general and all these other generals still can't even remember his namehis name was /got/hotd/, and i am his legacytoday for a final timewe will show the catalog what his hand has wrought
>>218145368>succession problemsshouldn't be any sucession problems as long as people just do what they're supposed to. First born living son is next in line. It's just that simple
Our QUEEN
billystream still good for tonight?
>>218145451BUT ITS HER TURN
>>218145339Just call him Aegon (the buckbreaker of jon and daney fags).
>>218145451>First born living son is next in lineTell that to the other brothers or sisters who want to be the heirThe Blackfyre stuff happens because of this
>>218145226And some arcs could've just merged the book and the show material together. Like Brienne could've been wandering around the riverlands instead of standing near Winterfell, meeting Randyll, Hyle Hunt and Meribald then around episode 6 or so have her encounter the bandits at the inn and get taken in by the Brotherhood but instead of being nearly hanged they task her with rescuing a Stark girl from Boltons and some of their guys escort her through the Neck and then her rescuing Sansa/Fake Arya happens. There it is, book adapted.
Six episode "season".
>>218145326But he could've resolved it if he thought real hard.
>>218145516if they made it 10 episodes the episode length would be 15 minutes each
*ahem*FUCK MonogamyFUCK The Faith FUCK The Poor FellowsFUCK The Warrior's SonsBut most of allFUCK the (((Maesters)))
>>218145516I would much rather have 6x30min episodes once every 12 months, than the 10x45min episode once every 24-30 months like other modern shows. It also helps to trim the fat and get rid of useless filler.
>>218145481>backed by Varys>the guy who help turn Aerys into a paranoid maniac and put him against Rhaegar>who sent Dany and Viserys to die with the Dothraki, without ever telling them about their supposed nephewyeah I'm sure Varys is definitely a true Targ loyalists and Faegon is legit
>>218145560ACK!
>>218145560Maegor IWas there a second?
>>218145585Aerion names his son Maegor kek
>>218143667Then don't. I never watched the last season of GoT (because I hated seasons 5-7 so much) or season two of HotD (forgot it happened, then heard it was dogshit so never came back to it) You don't HAVE to watch the slop, anon
>>218145574The book itself tell you he is fake.
>>218145560wow, a true King
>>218144909Sorry to be a annoying contrarian but I like these scenes:>>218144909This shows that Egg is wise beyond his years and a potentially great humanitarian. Rather be a gross pig he finds the goodness in even a slut. Its supposed to give great future king.>>218144865The fart was to show the extreme callousness to people in need of the Knights that they are just an athletic version of the same elites from Game of Thrones.
>>218144452>beesbury is the best characterhow is that possible, beesbury died offscreen, raymun confirmed it.
>>218144048>instead of the ring Maekar gives Dunc the catspaw’s dagger>it proceeds to make an appearance in every season of D&E thereafterkino?
>>218143667I wrote a fuckton of essays on why this show sucks donkey ass but of course I will watch s3, I'm a sucker for ASOIAF stuff and I take what I can get. I'll pirate it of course, imagine paying for HBOshit if it's as bad as HotD.
>>218145585Got Wikifags have an issue with doing that. Both Daenerys and Robert have I tagged to their names as well.
>>218144315>Mothers and NFL playersImagine tirelessly trying to finish the GoT script and your jewish mothers friends kept telling you what they want to happen and implying they have connections in hollywood and will tank your career. Imagine if le bron james was in your DM's telling you what he hopes happens next. How are you meant to say no to this pressure?
>>218145610>Egg looks at the the catspaw dagger>he sees fire reflected in it>he sees visions>he must... bring back dragons.. to save the westeros from the white walkers>he looks at the camera and winksfade to blackthe perfect season finale
>>218145327The king is not omnipotent and poligamy is frowned upon by the faith, which nearly checkmated the Targs when their dynasty on Westeros was just starting, so much so that Aegon I's eldest son died of stress and Maegor had to defend himself in a trial by seven and nearly died in the process. >>218144865The Bracken fart I wouldn't even count as a joke cause it's not meant to make the viewer laugh, at that point you're just feeling incensed for Dunk's desperation.
>>218145465Olivia > this degenerate
>>218145574>backed by VarysSo what.>the guy who help turn Aerys into a paranoid maniac and put him against RhaegarBased.>who sent Dany and Viserys to die with the Dothraki, without ever telling them about their supposed nephewGood. Both of them were shitheads.Any more copes daney fag?
>>218145488Still relies on that whole shitty "Sansa marries the Boltons" story. It's best to leave show-nonsense and the book separate.
>>218145642>poligamy is frowned upon by the faithwhat if you have seven of em?
>>218145585In ASOIAF they use regnal names from the beginning. Robert is referred to Robert Baratheon, first of his name in the story as well.
>>218145636>mfw this is literally and unironically how hotd season 2 ended but it was even worse
I WISH I COULD RAPE BRIENNE IN THE ASS AND RAPE CATELYN IN THE MOUTH and also I WISH CERSEI WOULD SIT ON MY FACE!!
>>218145482You throw them into a basement, come the fuck on, even anime is ahead on the game here.
>>218145712>anime
>>218145708chill gold hand
>>218145708Jaime...
>>218145708Based.
>>218144778https://youtu.be/QH2PKQkML9QWhen it kicked in I knew I was in for kino. I hope they use it again for the blackfyre rebellion flashbacks.
The Lannisters really have zero aura in HotD and are invisible in AKotSK. What a shitty house.
>>218144828>fortune teller spoiling dunk & egg's fates out of nowhere on ep 3>no "a knight who remembers his vows" which is the single most important line in dunk's novellas>the fucking filler flashback that took most of the momentum away from the trial (and because it has this fucking thing >>218143767 for most of it)
>>218145834The Lannisters are carried by Tywin
>>218145834They have negative aura in hotd, they get completely fucked by the riverlords and the wolves
>>218145834>A Kot, Skme when I see a cat
>>218145834Tyland doesn’t get aura until he’s tortured and becomes a nazgul
Show maeker is kind of hot girls, ngl. Sad we’re not seeing him again after this season.
>>218145606Beesbury is the best character because this is /tv/ where no one can be sincere, and everyone has to either be a contrarian or sarcastic 100% of the time.
I get Maekar is supposed to be more Targ-looking than Baelor but why does he look rougher, even older than Baelor even though he's the youngest?
>>218145848Tywin is a midwit with wealth and money at his back. He's not the "all according to keikaku" 4D chessmaster that he presents himself as. Charles Dance was also miscast because heis great performance and screen charisma turned a sore loser like Tywin into a cool villain.
>>218145865How did it just click for me that Aegon iii with Tyland as his hand is foreshadowing bran the broken and hand of the king Tyrion
>>218145606He heard there was a fight. Didn't know what it was about. Didn't know who was taking part. Didn't know what the consequences would be, but he heard about it from his cousin so he turned up. Legend.
stream link?
>>218145891Tywin isn't a genius, but he his hyper-competent when it comes to anything other than raising his children. The early years of Aerys reign were considered great precisely because Tywin was the one actually running the country
>>218143639finale episodes are depressing by their nature
>>218145885Probably the stress of dealing with his dumbass children and losing his wife early me thinks. Also probably from dealing with living in his brothers shadow.
>>218145852kek
>>218145945I mean in-universe that makes sense I guess but I'm asking casting-wise.
do you guys think dunk is gonna whistle the main theme?
>>218145891Being a midwit makes him genius tier in Westeros. He's a very competent administrator, but a pretty shitty general and father.
>>218145885he's grumpymaxxing
>>218145475
>>218145965I want him to whistle the tune that played when he was making sandwiches for Egg and himself.That was a comfy sequence.
>>218145885It's the white hair. It makes him look older. If he had black hair, he wouldn't look much older / older than Baelor.
>>218145962he was compelling to watch
>>218145834The only time George really likes the Lannisters as a house is in early ASOIAF where victories fall into their lap in ridiculous ways. But outside of that he makes it quite obvious that they don't belong in his favorites club (Starks, Blackwoods, Manderlys, Targaryens, Martells)
>>218145995They got rid of the 4-legged dragon for this but not the rest?
>>218145972this always makes me laugh
>>218145666whichever of them most embodies the Stranger conspires to slit your throat in your sleep, and take your holdings. They probably also lust start scissoring on top of your dead corpse
>>218146015His favorite character in the entire series is a Lannister
>>218145885i think it's because they cast Maekar's actor first and foremost by asking the question "what would the Targaryen warrior-king Maekar look like?" and the question of "what does Baelor's much younger brother look like?" was of a lower priority, if that makes sense
>>218145962Don’t know. Not the first time they’ve done this honestly. Probably just decided he was the best actor and because the gap isn’t too bad just decided to roll with it. I could buy that he’s a younger brother that’s a bit rougher looking due to in universe reasons. Honestly the hair is doing a lot of heavy lifting, when you see images of him and baelors actor they still look around the same age to me.
>>218145930>Tywin isn't a genius, but he his hyper-competent when it comes to anything other than raising his children. I wouldn't say he is hyper competent at all. He has some actual competence, no doubt, but he's more like a hardworking workaholic that enjoys doing paperwork.>The early years of Aerys reign were considered great precisely because Tywin was the one actually running the countryThis is doubtful again, because the sources of this are from Tywin sympathizers in the books, and Jorge RR Martinez has zero idea of what actually means a good reign and a robust economy (Targs not building any other roads besides renaming a road the Durrandons/whatever and Aerys hoarding money like a dragon instead of investing it are anything but good). Besides, all the nobility consider Tywin's tenure as Hand great because he mostly reversed Egg's reforms that restricted nobility and gave more breathing room to middle and lower classes.Overall, he's 6.5/10 but his competition is so crap that he stands out as 10/10.
>>218145885Mother didn't love him best. This is also why he's a better fighter.
>>218145560subhuman nigger who got btfod by the warrior's sons and cheated the gods with bloodmagic then the gods took what was rightfully theirs and punished him with no heirs
>>218143254test
if i pull it off will you die
>>218146041>His favorite character in the entire series is a Lannistera Lannister whose whole identity is being the black sheep of the house who kills or opposes most Lannisters
>>218145928 link?
>>218146018>4-legged dragonthey only made this mistake once in akotskand it was for the fucking blackfyres lmao
>>218143783I mean they still had books 4 and 5 but those aren't very good or exciting and would probably be a logistical and budgetary nightmare and still end up shit
>>218146069...visor's cracked...
>>218146057
>>218146098fingers feel like... wood
>>218146069It would be extremely painful.
kinotube still streaming?
>>218146069It would be very painful
>>218146104my brother's mace
>>218144088I guess the question is how the fuck isn't westeros raped by inflation if the Lannisters just keep mining mountains of gold
>>218146124...for the realm
>>218146069Just how strong is Maekar?Also an arming cap would have solved all of this.
Maekar Kinslayer, may he burn in Seven Hells
>>218145995>we don't even see the fight>here's a 15 minute flashback sceneHBO ARE RETARDED.
>>218146057the whole mother stuff in the episode felt contrived. i understand the attempt to create a thematic throughline but it was awkwardly implemented, especially Lyonel's bit
How could he have salvaged this?
>>218146124
>>218146138>Just how strong is Maekar?not quite prime Bobby B or Maegor tier but pretty strong, and overall a more experienced soldierhe's the type to bring his armor everywhere ready for a fight, he's a martially inclined bastard
>>218145930Ah yes, burninating the countryside with the winter around the corner because you're butthurt that your son was kidnapped (only happened because everyone was eager to believe the worst about the Lannisters after your King's Landing shenanigans) was most prudent, very competent indeed.
Maekar was a big guy
>>218146164He should have told Robert about the prophecy of the dagger and Arya Stark, the chosen one.
>>218146205>WAIT ROBERT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LET ME KEK YOU IT'S PART OF THE PROPHE-ACKKKKK!!!!gods he was so based
>>218146164he should've kept his dick in his pants
IS THE EPISODE IN 1 BONG OR 2
>>218145973Troons and redditors always react like pointing out that a person is either male or female is some kind of violence.
>>218146164Realistically he should've just immediately sided with the rebels, and only after helping depose Aerys should he have revealed the Lyanna part. Robert would look like a massive sperg for overreacting at that, and wouldn't get as much support as he did during the rebellion against Aerys.
>>218146200UUUU
>A knight of the SEVEN kingdoms>Trial of the SEVEN>The SEVEN gods save him>SIX episodesCheap ass HBO
>>218146231>memes from 2016just let it go, lilbro.
>>218145560https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Moon_(septon)>Westeros will not be clean again until all the Targaryens have been slain or driven back into the sea.your move Targshits
>>218146138From the wiki:>The thickly-built Maekar was a powerful man with violet eyes.[2] He had straight hair and a square-cut beard, both being the color of silver with a hint of gold.[2] Pox scars marred his cheeks.[2]>He wielded a huge spiked mace.[2]
>>2181460913The poorer and more devastated the Riverlands the richer the Westerlands, that's just simple math.
>>218146273It's all meta and designed to show you that the seven are a sham religion which funnily enough is the only one in this fantasy world that isn't a legit religion lol
>>218146273they made a secret 7th episode, specifically just to shit on Stranger Things fans. TRUST THE PROPHECY!
>>218146317>a sham religionHow come the Father revived Dunk then?
>>218146273>Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.>Could have named each episode after each of The New Gods.>Didn't.
>>218146336Bees are assholes. Not Beesburys tho, they're chill.
>>218144736Why didn't Tywin fuck Arya? Isn't the age of consent in the middle ages like 13?
>>218146114bump
>>218145972the only time he laughs/smiles in the show when Dunk suggests it was 7 lances as opposed to Baelor's claim of 4, it's literally "lmaaooo my brother needed 7 lances to take down a peasant"
>>218146356Bees are based though. It's wasps that suck.
>>218146338he didn't THOUGHdunk got up and survived through sheer fucking will alone and because the boy is THICK AS A CASTLE WALL how many times do they have to scream it into your facehe's legit just built different
>>218146362Arya was nine years old when the books began.GoT was already fucked by aging up the characters.
>>218146362Because he had taste.
>>218146312And of course uber-genius Tywin hadn't thought about what happens after the war is over and you and yours have to ride through the region whose people you've massacred every time you want to get to the capital.
>>218146385Based bee chad.
>>218145885I don't know. Why does Robert have a full head of hair whilst Stannis has an end stage norwood despite being younger?
>>218146362tywin is not a degenerate
>>218146362>Why didn't Tywin fuck Arya?What made you think that he didn't?
>>218146430Because Stannis is literally /tv/
>>218146362some people arent into children
Am I retarded or does Tywin realize who Arya is when he has her captive? At least in the show it's played like he knows she's lying about who she is
>>218144191easy
>>218145560>>218146295I like how vaguely slavic this artist makes the Targs look.
>>218146465>The Sneed is feed and full of seed Strange line
>>218146430I unironically thought Stannis was older than Robert and that's why he was so pissed about being overlooked
>>218146475Aren't Targs supposed to be Norman allegory?
>>218146237>some kind of violenceyou're saying that to a webm of daemon gripping rhaenyra by the throat, so the sentiment isn't far off.. dark mean-spirited shit
>>218146465>Davos refused THISWas he retarded?
>>218146495>burninatingthat's a blast from the past
>>218146520He has less obligations to do her.
>>218146464The show implies he knows she's highborn, but there's no reason he'd be aware she's a Stark.
Was he the greatest hand of all time?
>>218146200>>218146256
>>218146522>Dunk during most of this season
>>218146537>gets murdered by his sonthis guy seemed too chill and reasonable to be a dick to his son for having a crippled legbut expecting cohesion from HotD...
>>218146454perhaps, but i'd argue that only a true cunnisseur would be able to see through her disguise so easily.
>>218146537>fine valyrian stock
>>218146537That circular thingie on his chest made me vaguely nostalgic for some reason. I guess because it reminds me of the old movies and history books illustrations, idk.
Ashford does look nice tho
>>218146622Yeah she does
>>218146537>Was he the greatest hand of all time?Nah...that title belongs to Tywin during Aerys' reign
>>218146537>allows his son to completely fuck up the political situation by father royal bastards because muh diiick>doesn't take any steps to fix thisit's his only flaw but it was a major flaw
>>218146138more an issue of the helmet not being baelor's size but yeah pretty damn strong
>>218146164Rhaegar was good but Robert was probably the single strongest combatant in the countries history at this point, there is no move Rhaegar could play here combat wise, he is dead
>>218146100lmao
>>218146151it was supposed to feel awkward
>>218146687>there is no move Rhaegar could play here combat wise, he is deadPocket sand
>>218146716he lost that ability when he left Elia
>>218146687>there is no move Rhaegar could play here combat wiseShoot Robert's ass full of arrows...
Alice doesn't represent hope, she represents rape. I didn't fucking consent to three fingers, I consented to one. Consent is important. But now that it's men being sexually assaulted it's funny?
>>218144191Only one right answer
>>218145067>with the shit roads in the realm,t. didnt read up on the rule of the Concilliator
IF THEY SEARCH THE SEVEN HELLS, MAYHAPS
>>218146734werewood arrows are old gold magic which does more damage to valyrian things like Daemon, Bobby B is not weak to old god sorcery
>>218146745Make up dept should've painted more freckles on her.
>>218146755I already mentioned it, retard. They just renamed it the road that the Storm Kings had built many years before them.
>>218146654He can't control who his son fucks. Also it wasn't even his sons fault. Rhaenyra is a literal WHORE who seduces whoever she pleases. If anything its Viserys fault for not teaching Rhaenyra not to be a slut
Do we know who Black Aly is in the show yet, can we just get it over with, rip off the wound and show me that it's a bald black hag or whatever disgusting thing they went with. No way we get a qt.
Is it still not out yet?
>>218144978fuck off that scene was funny
>>218146537Not even close
>>2181467982 hours nigga
>>218146772Bobby B and Rhaegar were second cousins though.
>>218146772>Bobby B>Egg's great grandson>damage to valyrian things
>>218146772spell it right and i'll believe you
the dragon ought never lose
>>218146836>werewoodweirwood
>>218146851>gets his ass handed to him twice
>>218146364bump
>>218146495Yes, it was competent, because Tywin's goals do not include the welfare or even the survival of the peasantry. Tywin in fact spent most of his early career as Hand of the King undoing all the reforms that Aegon V passed to give more legal protections to the common people. Because it was getting in the way of consolidating power.Tywin well knew that he was crippling the Riverlands for a generation, or more, with his wholesale slaughter and pillage. That was the point. When an entire region rebels against you, and they all have well-fortified castles and you have no dragons to easily reduce those fortresses, you have to find other means of bringing them to heel. He could either wage war until he died of old age trying to besiege Riverlands castles one by one, or he could decisively cripple their local economy, reduce the population to starvation, and effectively end the capacity for meaningful rebellion in the region for 30+ years.
>>218146816>>218146819he's like 2 percent targ
>>218146851I..I withdraw my accusation
>>218146875Enough for the old gods, one drop rule
>>218146871Well it backfired like every single thing he did
I reckon Dunk should have died from his wounds sustained during the trial. Perhaps he did die. The Seven brought him back in exchange for Baelor's life. He's The Seven's wight.A Wight Of The Seven Kingdoms
>>218146917It is known
DROP THE DAMN EPISODE BEFORE I PISS MESELF
>>218146917Ser Duncan the Tall..A tall knight..a long night...The Long Night of the Seven KingdomsThe catspaw dagger is the key to it all...
>>218146900Did it? Per his machinations, Robb stark was assassinated, along with his mother, and much of his senior advisors were captured. The devastation wrought on the Riverlands and loss of the young wolf took a lot of the fight out of the riverland lords. They were willing to surrender to Jaime. Not unconditionally, perhaps, but they were well and truly humbled and made to bow to the iron throne again. It caused a flood of refugees, but this only became a problem for King's Landing because of Cersei's abysmal handling of the situation. That's basically the reason most of Tywin's plans fell apart. Cersei was simply not competent enough to capitalize on everything her father had won. Tywin would have driven the refugees out of the city, back to the riverlands or perhaps toward the Reach, if he wanted to bog down the Tyrells with that problem and keep them busy.
>>218146917>A Wight Of The Seven KingdomsBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>218146935The catspaw dagger...The cats paw dagger...The cat...cat The ...Catelyn...She is crucial to all of this
>>218146948common sense
>most likable Targaryen is the least aesthetically and temperamentally Targaryen member Lmao
Need a flashback scene of Baelor and Maekar bootyblasting Blackfyre shits
>>218147008That's how it goes. The Targ blood needs to be watered down, some, to keep them sane.
>>218146997C+P=D
>>218147008If Aerion had a dragon he could've been the next Aegon the Conqueror
>>218146948incel into bootlicker pipeline is real in westeros as well
New thread>>218147045
>>218146522AND THEIR THATCHED ROOF COTTAGES
>>218146948Baelor was a very un-Targaryen guy. Dark hair, polite and quiet, didn't give a shit about dragons, no incest, fully adopted the religion of the Seven. Makes sense Raymun would like him.
