The Fashionable Egg Editionprev >>218154723
>ready to square up again if need to beBased AF
Wolfussy
>>218156337she's having a summer islands baby
>>218156337He's not a sour apple, but he's always ready to throw hands if things turn rotten
>>218156322>>218156101your feel when :>a dream of spring come out>dany legitimize gendry or edric storm as baratheon>dany then legitimize the baratheon branch as targaryen>dany marry gendry or edric and rebirth house targaryen
>>218156322BASED FUCKING APPLE BOY
>>218156322the only mention of Red in the book
215 KB PNG>Queen Ceryse Hightower was a noblewoman from House Hightower and was the daughter of Lord Manfred Hightower of Oldtown.>Ceryse and Maegor were wed in 25 AC. The ceremony was held at the Starry Sept of Oldtown, with Ceryse's uncle, the High Septon, performing the rites.>Maegor boasted to having consummated the marriage a dozen times the night of the wedding, and those who had seen the bedding agreed that Maegor was a lusty husband.>Ceryse was twenty-three, whereas Maegor was thirteen years old.I’ll never be a young prince gifted a hot older bride to sate my teenage lusts. Why live?
>>218156337the seeds are strong
>>218156322gods he so hot
>>218156369Thanks Arlan for warning this sensitive young men about the dangers of evil harpiesSadly Raymun was never taught this lesson
>>218156357NO RHAEGARTHINK OF THE DYNASTYYOU'RE ALL THAT'S LEFT OF VALYRIA
>>218156372>>Maegor boasted to having consummated the marriage a dozen times the night of the wedding, and those who had seen the bedding agreed that Maegor was a lusty husband.he was fucking plowing her then lmao
What if Cersei's kids were actually Robert's but the blonde hair was from his Targaryen heritage
>>218156366>Viserys I>unknown Hightower >unknown Arryn what kind of amateur made this. Their names have been known since 2012 when fatso published the lore book
>>218156156there really should be a "thank you for your attention in this matter" at the end
>>218156357>>218156389>rhaegar was into furry
>gets knighted>gets the hottest woman on the show>gets sweetfootDont be a sour apple, be like Raymun
theres two shows this year but what the fuck do you guys even talk about in the years between HOTD seasons
>>218156417Nah. They are gold blond, not silver blond. Also the seed is strong.
>>218156436we don't
>>218156435>whoops my first born son fell into the cider press
STANNIS will put Rickon in to Winterfell to win North supportHe will fake Theon execution and win support of Asha Greyjoy, they will take Iron Islands.He will declare Jon Targaryen as his heir to stabilise targ supporters and prevent civil war in North.Mad Queen Dany will marry Faegon and start next Blackfyre rebellion against STANNIS and Jon
>>218156417>Some targshit alien genes>overcoming DVNDARRON ANDAL BLOOD WHO DEFIED THE GODS OF STORMSLMAO
>>218156455
>>218156436We spitball about whatever the fuck the oily black stone in Asshai actually is and why it pops up in Oldtown and Pyke too
i choose to believe that red is pregnant with raymund's kid.
>>218156436there is always our brothers in the /lit/ thread if /tv/ were to die out
Why didn’t Valarr simply step in for Dunk when his father asked for his armor?
>>218156366wtf is this outdated shit? isn't there an updated version?
>>218156436We don't, on /tv/ the general dies a couple of weeks after the last episode, it will come back in juneOn /lit/ and on /tg/ they have threads as the other anon points out, but the /lit/ threads are slow because what's even there to talk about anymore? At least on /tg/ they can discuss actual game stuff
>>218156455>Succession set to ultimogenitureTis green apple house
>>218156494there's no reason she would already be pregnant with someone else's because tansy herbal tea exists in the ASoIaF universe.
>>218156435this is cute but really what was raymun's problem? no frens? shitty family?
I don't want this general to die...I want to discuss kino for ten years AT LEAST!!
Cute and canon!
>>218156546For me it's middlegenitureIt does get kinda messy when there is an even number of kids though, they have to sort it out themselves
>>218156435>gets cucked
>>218156576Break into GRRM house and force him to release/finish Winds of Winter
>>218156573>but really what was raymun's problemToo based for a world full of backstabbing retards. Might be the only character in all of ASOIAF who gets a happy ending.
>>218156576We will be back in june dummy>but I don't want to discuss ho-Then discuss Dunk stuff, it's always multiple topics, hence the name of the general
>>218156435amazing how Dunks fingers still work after having a dagger rammed trough his palm
This show is a good opportunity to do lots of world building. I hope George and the gang add a lot of original content, in particular I want to see more Lyonel and Maekar. Egg still has yet to receive the signet ring so that will probably happen in Oldtown when he visits his brother. He and Maekar will coincidentally meet.
>MAGIC IS A BYPRODUCT OF A REAL PHYSICAL SUBSTANCE IT'S RED AND IT WELLS UP FROM DEEP IN THE EARTH AND FROM OUTER SPACE LIKE A HEAVY METAL, IT'S CONCENTRATED IN WEIRWOOD TREE SAP AND IS BROUGHT NEAR THE SURFACE BY VOLCANOES E.G. IN VALYRIA AND THE POISON RIVER BY ASSHAI, THE RED COMET ISN'T JUST PART OF A PROPHESY IT'S LITERALLY SHOWERING THE PLANET WITH RADIOACTIVE MAGIC RED DUST WHICH REACTIVATED TARGARYEN BLOOD MAGIC AND AWOKE DANAERYS' DRAGON EGGS AND IS BRINGING MAGIC BACK ALL OVER THE WORLD, WHY DO YOU THINK EVERYONE FROM HOUSE DAYNE AND ONLY HOUSE DAYNE HAVE PURPLE EYES DESPITE NO MENTION OF THEM PRACTICING INBREEDING LIKE THE TARGARYENS TO MAINTAIN THEIR MAGIC BLOOD TRAITS IT'S BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN A CASTLE WITH A SWORD MADE OF A CRASHED METEOR, THE MAGICAL EQUIVALENT OF THE ELEPHANTS FOOT FROM CHERNOBYL AND WEIRD EYE COLORS ARE THE MAGICAL EQUIVALENT OF BONE CANCER
>>218156595>this is what tranny twitterfags actually believeDunk never showed interest in Red, he wanted brown Tansil lest we forget. But tranny twitterfags saying stupid shit for money (90% of these retarded diary-tier posts are deliberate engagement bait, these people make money off being retarded and saying retarded shit) is the norm at this point.
>Raymun kisses Red and gets transfered all the sperm of the men she has had sex with>Raymun then feeds Sweetfoot an apple by biting it of with his mouth>This transfers the sperm to Sweetfoot>Sweetfoot then through some magic will give birth to the first CentaurYou cant disprove this
>>218156619>impying they won't minimize the returning cast to save money
>>218156630Raymun is the cuck, retard
>>218156640>cuck because you settle down with a woman you bedded who clearly loves youShit has lost all its meaning man.
But question is who gets Gwin Ashford?
>>218156634>Raymun now carries around green apples like business ciards
>>218156630I think the implication is that Red was pregnant with Dondarrions kid but she lies to Raymun that its his kid and she lies about being a noble ladyAlso>actress name is Rowan Robinson>this is lady RowanBRAVO IRA PARKER
>>218156652a 40 or 50 y/o lord
>>218156651raising another mans child is being cucked
>>218156651>>218156630Nigga her belly is full with a dondarrion bastard and Raymun is honestly convinced its his kid
its over
Yes send Aerion to the sex island Maekar, that’ll fix him
>>218156435can someone run this through one of those AI things to instead make them kiss
>”my brother Aerion wasn’t always like this”>doesn’t elaborate >no flashbacks>leavesWell fuck you
>we can banish Aerion now but we couldn't have just done that before or when he started doing random violent shit, we needed to let a hugely dangerous trial go ahead instead
>>218156666checking quads
>>218156713He said "we'll make a man out of him too" for Egg, meaning it's probably gotta do with Maekar's parenting
it was funny how Dunk was in severe agony and convalescence throughout the entire episode unlike the entirety of GOT where no matter how much they get beaten up they're magically completely fine the next episode
>>218156744adrenaline
>>218156692That's what I thought too kek>Maybe some years in the pedosex metropolies with brothels full of valyrian whores, scummy merchants, sailors and pirates will fix his bad behavior!What the FUCK was he thinking
>>218156713literally just a scene to pad the run time. Duncan had no reason to blame him for the trial either.
>>218156744Ned was pretty fucked up before his execution, other than that yeah you're right.
>>218156744They were all fucked, I loved how literally every one of them barely walked straight. Very rarely do shows acknowledge after a battle you might be out of commission for a while
We did it dunkerion bros
>>218156526>child -Targaryen- fighting pitsi forgot about that, what tf was going on there
>>218156742he specifically says its unknown why Aerion is a crazyboy, as you'd know if you'd watched the fucking show.
>>218156782Episode 9 was really shitIn season 2 they basically retconned Aegon's character
Arlan actually comes "back" to life and finishes his storySo he could have knighted Dunk after that
>>218156744GoT was much more realistic than this show because it doesn't show characters being seriously injured. in a medieval setting the moment a character gets lots of holes in them they should be 90% fucked. everyone was pointing out that dunc should be dead after last episode.
>>218156780Lyonel having an antler crutch was hilarious
>>218156803this isn't a medieval setting though, the medicine of westeros is obviously somewhat advanced seeing as qybern can make a fucking frankenstein
>>218156793>be unable to see characters except as good or bad>when a character is shown to have multiple facets it seems to you like the show has contradicted their earlier characterizationit's 100% your fault for being a brainlet same for the people who think the writers are protecting Rhaenyra and Alicent
Why did that maester say dunk was dying and then we just never addressed that again? did he just get better off screen to save time? or was that whole thing a jab at all the maesters in HOTD that "reach the limit of their art" all the time? surely Ira isn't bold enough to openly mock HOTD's writing on his show.
A song of cope and seethe
>>218156803Mayhaps the Gods have need of him yet
>no training arc before the trial>no Baelor singing make a man out of youFuck this show
>>218156823You are retarded, there is a difference between a flawed character and a character who enjoys watching his toddler bastards killing each other in fighting pitsSeason 2 Aegon is a flawed character, season 1 Aegon is just comically over the top flawed, like, saturday morning cartoon.
>>218156372Good to see George is an /ss/chad
>>218156840negro what training? he only had a couple hours to assemble his team
>>218156751What is it with you fags and deifying adrenaline?
>Beesburys funeral gives me hives >I don't understand what all the buzz is about were these lines really fucking necessary
>>218156828did Ira not get his start writing for HOTD?
A bit strange the actor playing ser Arlan is never featured in those behind the scenes clips or the cast interviews
>>218156818Dunc doesn't get wounded multiple times in the novella either. the show just broke the logic of the setting to create cheap suspense.
>>218156860Anon is clearly making a Mulan reference
>>218156366Midwits will look at this and think the lore is deep
>>218156828It's a jab at retarded viewersSame as dunc shitting himself in the first episodeIt's just a light story about knights and you're the biggest retard going>WELL ACKSHUALLYat every smallest thing in it
>>218156837yeah he needs to do a bunch of shit to make sure the Mad King gets the throne then die in a fire.
>>218156873Nevermind then my bad, this isn't my home board
So why did Maekar kill his brother?
>>218156828>Why did that maester say dunk was dying and then we just never addressed that again?Lyonel literally tells you, he's a complete retard
>>218156852>stuff from the book that wasn't in the show yetthanks for conceding that you literally can't separate your own knowledge of GRRM's cliffnotes from the version that has to actually work as a story.
>reading acok blind>gendry talking about pulling out his cock Infront of aryaUmmm...they should have sex okay?
>>218156871he has like 3 lines and was probably paid as an extra for most of his episodes.
>>218156322Almost finished reading fire and blood, gonna read a world of ice and fire after. Is the targ stuff in it worth reading too or should I just skip that part?
>>218156894Bloodraven warged into him and swung the mace
>>218156759...wasn't it his lies that caused the whole thing? And the scene was there to humanize targs by showing family feeling and playing off the whole madness/greatness thing.Who wouldn't protect their family at such a cost anyway? Does it really make them more tyrannical because they're the ruling family instead of smallfolk?
>>218156360>valyrians are awake
>>218156662every lord and knight carries their house symbol, it is known.
>>218156909Arya will return to Westeros, gravedigger hound will convince her to abandon her quest for revenge and then Arya and Gendry will fuck
>my goto site is down>can't watch ep6help me brothers, i haven't read anything yet
>>218156940>tfw tully
>>218156939another antivalyrionic conspiracy theory
Fuck you guys and your crappy valyrian steel swords. The one true hero’s sword is out there somewhere and George will write about it in his next book. So maybe never. Fuck you.
Post your fav Lyonel pic
>>218156823>>218156906Wow this guy is still defending HotD when even GRRM himself has said "It's no longer his story" and publicly attacked them for changing his story and turning it into fanfiction
>>218156951love that fish is the first problem you thought of, not fucking towers or flayed men or trees kek
>>218156906Explain how Aegon watching his bastard toddlers kill each other does in any way help the storyWe know he's irresponsible, he raped a maid, we know he's a drunkard, we know he's wrothful because of the ratcatchersHis flaws do not need such an extreme lapse in stupidity to work.And its followed by the coronation, where he loses his scene with Sunfyre and in exchange we get Rahenys doing a terrorist attack that the writer for the episode described on camera as "a girlboss moment".And you are fucking telling me there wasn't a clear agenda in episode 9 against Aegon that was retconned in season 2 when they realized how shit it was? Don't make me laugh, get the fuck out of here.
>No Catspaw Dagger after all
>>218156609Yeah I had to go back and reread the battle after watching how much Dunk gets fucked up.It's baffling he is able to stumble all around the camp the day after really.
>>218155524Lightbringer. So legendary it doesn't even exist.
>CTRL-F TAOO>0 resultsdead general
>>218156322This kid always looking like he's about to order someone to ambush a GDI task force.
>mfw I'm from house Plumm>my ancestors where given a title and they chose to cal themselves Plumm>my house symbole is 3 plums on a yellow field>my neighboring lords are a boar and a unicorn, and my liege is a lion, but I'm a fucking plum
>>218156713its what convinced dunk to take egg with him, since if he was brought up by him he might not turn out like his degen brother and be a just prince, whereas even a good kid like aerion was can turn out to be a cunt when brought up in that environment what kind of a brainlet are you to not understand that?
>>218156954Dawn is the one. Fans theorise that it was meant to be wielded by this one member of house Dayne but because there's no time skip he'd still be like 13
>>218156809>Maester, you know the special crutch I commissioned?>It's time.
Things that bothered me:-It's now apparently confirmed that Dunk was never knighted. Martin leaving it deliberately ambiguous was superior-Didn't Maekar send Egg with Dunk voluntarily in the novella?Every change they make is worse than the source.>>2181569491337x
>>218157000I'd like to imagine someone told them they should put it in that scene where Egg goes to stab Aerion.
>>218156909She's 10
>>218156871He's in the latest one they did for ep4/5/6.
>>218157022And he made the sweetest plum liquor in the entirety of the seven kingdoms. And he was based.
>>218157044Out of 10
>>218157022Could be worse
>>218156828maesters are all incompetent faggots
>>218156954>The one true hero’s swordFAGGOT WE ALREADY TOLD YOUTHAT'S LITERALLY LIGHTBRINGER
>>218157022Are we really pretending Redwynes and Tyrells aren't big dick energy now
>>218157036>It's now apparently confirmed that Dunk was never knighted. Martin leaving it deliberately ambiguous was superiorI agree directly revealing it this early was stupid, but I feel like George would have revealed it directly in one of the later novellas anyway. I'd be baffled if it stayed ambiguous the entire time.
>>218157061>mfw Ser Gull Shett
>>218156803>because it doesn't show characters being seriously injuredJon Snow takes somehting like four arrows in the back and is magically fine the next season.
>>218157061>House Shitto of Gluptown
>>218157036>It's now apparently confirmed that Dunk was never knighted. Martin leaving it deliberately ambiguous was superiorhow fucking stupid are you anons, Sir Arlon was not actually dead there, so he couldve knighted him right after, its just meant to be a funny fakeout
>>218157073I wasn't sure but after seeing Longthorn in action I can confidently sayTyrells are massive dick energy
>>218157036>>218157088It doesn't really matter anyway. The bird watching Dunk shit scene right at the beginning hits you on the head with it harder than George ever did.
>>218157074I'm of the mind that he never would have confirmed it. Dunk is the only one who knows, and he's not going to risk everything by stating it. Confirming it would also lessen the mystery somewhat, and mystery/ambiguity is what gives his writing staying power, in my view. And he knows it>>218157088Wasn't that scene just Dunk's fantasy/fever dream? Implied to be based on actual events, but I thought that was clear
>>218157036>It's now apparently confirmed that Dunk was never knighted. Martin leaving it deliberately ambiguous was superiorIt's still as ambiguous as in books(barely so)-Didn't Maekar send Egg with Dunk voluntarily in the novella?You don't know if he didn't in tv, maybe he changed his mind Didn't you like ambiguous shit in your last complaint?
>>218157044This, in GRRM world girls become sexually promiscuous at 13 not 10
>>218157126>You don't know if he didn't in tv, maybe he changed his mindCome on, man, this is just disingenuous. Egg obviously snuck off
>>218157132>TFW no maiden because I have L rizz
>>218157126anon did you not see the final scene where Maekar is asking where the fuck is egg (swearing funny)
It's still way better overall than HOTD but I feel like this season peaked around episodes 2/3/4 and only got gradually worse after that. Episode 6 has got to be the weakest one so far. None of the major changes they've made was for the better. It was still a positive experience overall but whenever the show deviates from the novellas it becomes visibly worse, and it started deviating more and more the longer it aired. My excitement for future stories is a bit dulled now, the future does not feel as secure as it did a few weeks ago.
>>218157036i read Hedge Knight today, it was pretty clear that he was never knighted>he considers being someone elses squire at the beginning>he thinks about "doing something terrible" to complete his dream (clearly lying about being knighted)>he doesnt knight Greenapple, only a knight can make another knightalso the blurb at the start of Sworn Sword>It tells the story of the first meeting between Dunk, a hedge knight’s squire, and Eggit calls him a squire not a knight
>Are you mad?>Is that relevant?I've been paying attention and I think this story doesn't have a happy ending.
>>218157028>>218157069I’m getting 2 conflicting reports here
>I'm sending Aerion away to the free cities for a few years to see if he mellows out...>WOT?! TAKING EGGNOG AWAY FROM HIS FAMILY? FOOKIN' 'EDGE KNIGHT BLOODI BASTERD!Is Maekar this fucking retarded in the book? I get that it's really just so Duncan can make the point and even to show Maekar's underlying fear, but it hits like whiplash considering the scenes are so close together.Like nigga, you JUST witnessed him about to murder his brother 30 seconds ago lmao, and not even in show time either, like you saw it and then the moment got interrupted by Duncaccino.What the fuck am I watching lmao.>Arlan fake out deathThis is some George "we may have gone too far in a few places" Lucas tier writing for what's supposed to be an emotional epilogue. No need for Lyonel pissing, Raymun makout sessions, and general comic relief at this point. All this shite makes it hard to want to rewatch it, despite it otherwise being a good production. Go in expecting Ghostbusters and instead you get Ghostbusters II, or worse, scenes that feel like they belong in Ghostbuster '16.On an unrelated note; is Lyonel flamboyant or is he gay for Dunk?
>>218156909GRRM writes a 12 year old Arya frenching a grown man to kill him. He’s going to write a 13 year old Arya sex scene with a 17 year old Gendry eventually
>>218157148>Aegon III refused THISHe took it from his dad, who hated his hot Royce tomboy wifeTruly a lineage of retards
>>218156662>>218156662impressive, very nice
>>218156862because it actually pushes you further than you'd imagine it couldAdrenaline is serious shit
>>218157156They already spoiled the ending in like the secone episode, not that it matters. The whole series and the overarching theme is the definition of the journey, not the destination.
What would Ser Duncan do in the War of the Five Kings?He would own every Kingsguard swearing fealty to Joffrey I'm sure
>>218157161>Is Maekar this fucking retarded in the book?No, he willingly lets Aegon join Duncan as a squire.
Some of the changes are just kind of… why? Why did they turn episode 5 into a gorefest for Duncan? In the short novel doesn’t he just take the spear to the belly, get slapped around for a bit before pummelling the shit out of Aerion? No sword stabs, no dagger to the thigh and through the hand etc And why change it so Egg runs off with Duncan instead of intentional by Maekar. He was a good man the whole point was that after mulling over what Dunk said about his other sons he realised that dunk was right and his kid had potential if he saw the real world
>>218157110George had Dunk think about becoming another hedge knights squire and his reaction to learning Egg’s identity was that he knew how it felt to tell a monstrous lie. It’s quite plain that he’s always flustered when people ask about him being knighted. It’s barely ambiguous.
>>218157188He would stand up to joffrey the first time he starts beating sansa and get himself executed, so he'd last about a week in kings landing
>>218157158Not conflicting, both are correct.Dawn is an actual real magic sword, it's literally Excalibur. The wielder is literally called Arthur for fuck's sakes.But what you're thinking of as the hero's sword in the traditional sense is Lightbringer, Azor Ahai's sword. It's a myth. It's said that Azor Ahai will be reborn and wield Lightbringer once again and defeat the Others (White Walkers in the show)The rest of the swords like Blackfyre are valyrian steel, they're just really good and insanely rare steel. But not as magic/legendary as the other 2.
>>218157155Yes, I know, but it's still all circumstantial, and Martin did that deliberately. Far better than just confirming it. It felt like they threw that in so that semi-retarded normie showfags would be able to follow along, at the price of book fans
>>218157158Lightbringer is a metaphorical sword of prophecy, Dawn is a real cool sword
>>218157200Maekar wordlessly walks away, nothing is confirmed
I just watched the last episode. Fuck Carmine of Redteam Review. I'm an incel chud and I love Raymun even more now. He knocked up a whore and married her, that's top tier honor on the level of Robb Stark. Also lmao at that bee coffin. The very last scene of the episode was dumb though. It contradicts the book and causes all kinds of story and logic issues.
>>218157170Hold up...sauce on that first part?
>>218157150It's obviously part of his keikaku to keep egg travels a secretHappy now?
>>218157161Maeker never outright refused Dunks proposal. It’s a particular hard decision right now because he just lost his brother. Ultimately he accepts it and gives Egg the signet ring later.
>‘A KNIGHT OF THE SEVEN KINGDOMS’ showrunner Ira Parker says Dunk and Egg are going to Dorne in Season 2:>“They do go to Dorne. How much of that we cover, I’ll leave up to people to tune in for Season 2. I don’t know if I’m supposed to talk about it yet. For the most part, we’re following the books. So Season 1 was “The Hedge Knight.” Season 2 is “The Sworn Sword.” Hopefully, if we get to Season 3 it’ll be “The Mystery Knight.”Looks like we’ll see a bit of Dunk and Egg’s adventure in Dorne next season after all
>Ser Arlan stops mid-sentence and freezes as Dunk asks why he never knighted him>Dunk starts crying>Ser Arlan stirs awake>a true knight always finishes a storyFucking based Ira.
>>218156085He doesn't "have" the riverlands. He doesn't even have Harrenhall.>>218156014For me it's the pirate girl shutting up after the midge threatens her.
>>218157225Raymun is just like me now that he let a whore take advantage of him
>>218156713It was to establish the theory that Targaryen "madness" might well be learned, not some unexplained hereditary condition as the maesters think.Hence, why Duncan reverses his stance. So that he can try and be a positive influence, where none or very few exist.The overarching point being that Maekar, while not necessarily malevolent or cruel, is not a good father.
>>218157216>so that semi-retarded normie showfags would be able to follow alongplease anon, we need to appeal to housewives and nfl players
>>218157036Anon, he literally wakes up a second later. It's still ambiguous, he could've knighted him right after.
>>218157227considering egg needs his boot that's not unlikely but wouldn't someone else he questioning what happened to a prince
>>218157028>this one member of house DayneWhich one?
>Dunk just went on trial for allegedly kidnapping a prince>Egg lies to go with him the day afterkek i don't think the showrunner realized how this makes egg look
Wtf? Dunk has been bullshitting this whole time about being a knight? Despite all his bs about being a knight and what the oath means? I thought maybe it was implied that Arlan wasn't actually a knight or didn't know the vows from his flashback reactions, but not this. Yes I am a showfag, fuck off, stay mad.
>>218157213How do we stop Dunk from suiciding himself for being a good guyIs there anyone else who does this but not suicidally? I think the Manderlys are the best example
>>218156961He looks like someone stretched Dinklage.
Dunk is not a Knight because Knights are not knightly by large. He acts more a Knight than actual Knights. That's the point.
>>218157274Fossoway: is that a sword on your hip?Dunk: It's mine by right! he says defensivelyFossoway: What an odd thing to say
>>218157226TWOW’s first chapter that was written to be Arya’s first chapter after the 5 year timeskip where was 16/17 repurposed to her doing this at 12: > "It's hard at first," she admitted. "But after a time it comes easier. I could teach you to say a line. I could.">He grabbed her wrist. "I'll do the teaching. Time for your first lesson." He pulled her hard against him and kissed her on the lips, forcing his tongue into her mouth. It was all wet and slimy, like an eel. Mercy licked it with her own tongue, then broke away from him, breathless. "Not here. Someone might see. My room's not far, but hurry. I have to be back before the second act, or I'll miss my rape."She’s making out with Raff the Sweetling btw who killed Lommy
>>218157274Duh. That's why Dunk was so hesitant to knight the apple boy at the trial, Lyonel stepping in to do it instead.
>>218157266>Probably dead in a ditch! He us 4th son anyway who cares!Here resolved your irrelevant plot point
>>218156595>>218156663>>218156681Doesn't really matter. All he needs to do is put another couple of buns in her oven and it'll even out with the cuckery.
>>218157264See >>218157123I thought it was obvious that the scene was not meant to be a memory; it was a fever dream or similar. It doesn't make sense for Dunk to have asked him "why did you never knight me ser" if it were a memory, but it does make sense retrospectively
>>218157274Yes just like Brienne isn’t a knight for most of the story yet they’re some of the most knightly people despite their larp
>>218157303why are you so defensive on a point that doesn't even make senseI wasn't even the initial person you were arguing with but you are so pathetically attached to nothing its very telling how worthless of a life you live
>>218157271A literal toddler?Also why the fuck is /csm/ invading /got/, what a random ass crossover
>aegon5 tries to resurrect dragons at summerhall>blood sacrifice involving his children>dunk does what dunk does, protects the innocent and kills aegon>survives the fire but is badly wounded>makes it to ashford>removes the penny from the tree to signal that he is done with war and fighting>a true knight always finishes his storyBRAVO IRA
>>218157274There's another 'knight' who's BSing...
>>218157123>Dunk is the only one who knows, and he's not going to risk everything by stating it. Confirming it would also lessen the mystery somewhat, and mystery/ambiguity is what gives his writing staying power, in my view. And he knows itI mostly agree, I don't think Dunk would have to state it out loud necessarily. Although perhaps saying it to Egg eventually could be powerful. But I don't think keeping the mystery really tracks here considering that even in the books, it's still really obvious that he wasn't knighted. It's not really some brilliant ambiguity anymore when there is clearly a right answer.
>>218157299...giwtwm.
>>218156366>Targrayen
What are they even doing with Maekar? He is the one who approaches Dunk in the book. He doesn't summon Dunk, he goes to see him at the tree. He appeals to Dunk, he doesn't try to command him. He learns from his family's mistakes. This version is shit.
>>218156803Dunk is a freak of nature, he's canonically meant to be way bigger than even Peter Claffey is, he can survive things that normal men can't
>>218157208Why do you think? Because it's what normies want. There are still unironically people who defend the Battle of the Bastards as one of if not the only good part of S6-S8 GoT. Blackwater is the highest rated episode of the franchise despite it being absolute, nonsensical dogshit, even compared to its source counterpart.The gorefest is an action setpiece. Dumbass niggas love action setpieces, no matter how contextually illogical and poorly edited they are.
>>218157315if the the first kid is a son, then its over because he inherits
I wish I lived in Westeros so I could get a cute whore atleast
>>218157328Brother it's literally a tv showDunc will fart next season and that plot point will be gone
>>218157372It's all about the blood getting passed on. Titles are lost, DNA is forever.
>>218157355We actually don’t know that Maekar does. We never get confirmation that Maekar agreed to it in the books. Dunk just assumes Egg, a known liar, told him the truth. Never put it past GRRM to do a rug pull. Maekar might have figured it out and just less it pass tho
>>218157366Seven's intervention + Giant's blood + Tankmaxxed geneticsAlso is Dunk a rape baby or what's his parentage
Lyonel was right. It’s not Dunks, Areions, Maekars, or Valarrs fault. Baelor risked absolutely nothing and ironically paid thee price for it, for Dunk. One could even say he insulted the gods.
“A true knight always finishes his story”You just know HBO is sick of George’s shit too
>>218157061Indians confirmed for Westeros. House Shett superpower by 320.
>>218157226>>218157299https://thehawke.github.io/twow-excerpts/chapters/mercy.htmlThe context is that Arya decided to kill this guy and her Faceless Man training makes her 100% in character, so she's become a 12 year old that's cool with being deflowered by a Lannister soldier. The chapter is semi-canon until Winds overwrites this. This is the last Arya chapter we've seen since Dance.
So it seems that the bees bury.
>>218157271He was never officially prosecuted for kidnapping hence why Aerion wielding stopped the trial
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>>218157036>>218157074No you retards, he wasn't dead at the end of the scene. He still could have knighted Dunk and it's still ambiguous Jesus Christ
>>218157225>Fuck Carmine of Redteam Review.I can't take him or Preston seriously anymore, hell Preston might be even worse. Carmine is just a typical millennial internet addict, but there's something about Preston being such a proudly dogmatic boomer that just makes anything he says so boring because there's obviously no nuance in it.I might still follow the fanfic now and then but otherwise neither one of them seem interested in making any actual content anymore.
It’s nine dumbass. Who told you it’s seven?
>>218157402So that's why he's having a hard time writing
You guys probably never checked but Maekar became a dad at age 13. Maekar was plowing his hot Dayne wife young just like Maegor did with his Hightower wife except Maekar wasn’t sterile and his creampies were potent unlike Maegor’s
loving the full soundtrack releasedso far, these are greathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmhcilVt9Gwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZgGo_a4tgo
>>218157411Pimpknight
>>218156961
>>218157271>>218157294Go back or lurk moar
>>218157424EP 1 has him blatantly lying about being knighted. They literally fling shit in the audience's face to make them realize it. I don't even get the point of arguing this.
>>218157373Nothing stops you into finding a whore IRL and marrying herOf course, you wouldn't turn into her
>>218157241dunk has dreams of dorne that also double as flashbacks in the book, he could just be talking about that
>>218157348I hear you, but there's 3 layers here:>what Dunk knows>what the public knows>what the audience knowsMartin writes it in a way where it's obvious that Dunks knows, and obvious that the public does not (or suspects/keeps it quiet), but where the audience can never be 100% sure. In other words, for the reader to bridge the gap between what we see with Dunk and what we believe, it requires DISCERNMENT. Martin is an author who rewards the discerning reader. By confirming it outright, it's somewhat of a betrayal of that reader-author relationship. If Martin did it, it would feel like selling out his discerning fans for filthy casuals. When the showrunners do it, it feels like a betrayal to Martin and an insult to the audience. They're saying "you're not discerning enough to have caught this, let me spell it out for you dipshits">>218157424It's not ambiguous because the question was posed by Dunk himself, and he was posing it from the present during a dream/in his imagination
Just watched the finale with breakfast. It was alright. 7/10 show overall.All it made me want to do is rewatch A Knight's Tale. Shame we never got any spinoffs of that.
Can we ban the anon posting chainsawman?
>>218156337>he said no raping
>>218157428George likes to write chapters and cut them out if he figures they won't lead where he wants. After he dies we'll probably get loads of released Arya smut.
>>218157299>Lost five years of Bran training>Lost five years of Jon gaining experience as LC (or being dead?)>Lost five years of dragon growth>Lost five years of Rickon turning into an absolute animal>Lost five years of Arya super assassin training>Lost five years of Sansa turning into a political schemer>Probably five years for the Others to properly mobilize and Winter to settle in/Autum to pass>Characters that were meant to be young adults are still teenagers instead>Have to write all this in real time nowYeah no wonder he can't finish. He should just retcon and go with the timeskip anyways. King's Landing flashbacks are less of a hassle than writing all of that surely.
>>218157373Who's the Fumiko of ASOIAF?
do you accept the Maekar change if that means he comes back in oncoming seasons?
>>218157275put him up in the north where he's being honorable in the service of honorable men.
Just finished it, it was nice. Where was I supposed to chud out at Ray The Bro though, the newfound wife of his being already pregnant?
>>218156980>wHaT iF rHaEnYs CaMe ThRoUgH tHe FlOoR oN a DrAgOn?!>wHaT iF rHaEnYrA aNd MySaRiA kIsSeD oUt Of NoWhErE?!>wHaT iF rHaEnYrA aNd AlLiCeNt MaDe Up AnD rAn OfF tO eSsOs?!Fuck this dyke so much.
>>218157489Gatehouse Ami
>I need to fix Egg's upbringing by walking the realm with him as a beggar>even though Dany also gets this exact kind of upbringing and goes mad anywaygreat writing. GRRM clearly knows exactly what he's trying to say in this series.
>>218157462I get what you're saying with the layers. I just think you can maintain that ambiguity and not have the satisfaction ruined by having Dunk say it to Egg or something. Or even just actively think it via internal monologue.Yeah it would be stupid to have him say it in book 4 of 10 or something though.
>>218157478That's a problem easily fixed by having winds have several small timeskips a la house of the dragon, but of like, 6 months each.He can easily get 2 years of mileage out of this tactic and still get a cohesive book.What he needs is cowriters to help him when he gets stuck
What in the fuck is even the point of the Three-Eyed Raven subplot and why do fantasy writers have an addiction to including omniscient entities that act like retards in their stories?
>>218157426Preston is a literal CIA kike glownigger, what did you expect?
Yeah George. A true knight finishes his books you fat fucking whale
>>218157294knights can be large OR small, both are ok.
I can't take Maekar seriously ever since I found out he jobbed to the fucking Peakes
>>218157493In the novella, he’s seen what has become of Aerion and is grieving his brother. He wants Egg to be different. What’s the point of dragging that out just for the sake of giving Maekar more screen time? They added the scene of Egg trying to kill Aerion. That was the perfect moment for Maekar to realize he wanted his youngest son to be different and to agree to let Egg squire for Dunk.It reminds me of when people were arguing that the show could still depict the smallfolk supporting Dunk. Yes, but the point is that they supported him at his lowest, before it looked like he could win. Changing that timing shifts the meaning in the same way Egg's lie changes the context for Maekar’s change of heart. What they've done, even if it ends up being revealed that Maekar did give his blessing, is just drag out a plot point that never even needed to exist for the sake of leaving the show on a cliffhanger. It's a cheap tactic to get people back for S2 (which is absurd given people would've come back even with the same ending as the novella), and both Maekar & Egg are worse off for it.
>>218157538Marker is based cope
>>218157538Peakes are chads
How are there people who could think it's ambiguous if Egg got permission to go with Dunk? He clearly didn't which is why Maekar is screaming angrily asking where he is, if he had allowed him to squire with Dunk and wander the kingdoms that scene wouldn't existThe collective IQ of the posters in this thread(minus me) is in the double digits
>>218157495I don't know, some anons are saying she's preggo with somebody else's babby, but I just assumed she said that shit to tie the knot. I mean, unless she's just trying to give him another reason to wife her, why would she even mention being pregnant?Not sure niggas are thinking the dialogue through.
Does HBO care if Martin finishes Winds? Do they expect him to? How would a winds release affect their plans for future asoiaf shows?
>>218157517Omniscient entities are cool. The problem is it's hard to write smart characters who know literally everything but somehow don't have shit under control.
>>218157478>>218157514I get why George didn't want to make it 5 years. But I think ACoK could have still had a 1 or 2 year gap with a couple fill in chapters and made it still work.I don't really understand why George thought he wrote himself into a corner. It's his books, he's allowed to change the PoVs or the format whenever the fuck he wants.Now it's just totally fucked and he wasted way too much time with books 4 and 5.
>>218157517>why do fantasy writers have an addiction to including omniscient entitiesfor lazy exposition
>>218156833I would bet all the money in the world that we have this fat fuck dying before we get winds of winterthe chance the book will come out is 0%georgie always wanted to be a filmstudio jew in the first place and now he has itno big loss though since he is a horrible writer most of the time and had a few lucky strikes that weren’t complete dudsAlso what’s his obsession with toilet humor about?
Where’s my son Egg?
>>218157493Ira doesn't even seem sure about that choice if you watch the new Making Of episode he says >it started as a joke, and now its in the show
>>218157214Is Dawn actually magic or just a really shiny sharp sword of a different material like Valaryian steel is special steel? I'm actually curious because I don't know enough about this. I thought Lightbringer only can become Lightbringer through AA pulling the sword from his dead waifu and magic rituals? Is Dawn a better sword than swords like Longclaw or Lamentation? Why did Arthur Dayne lose(show explanation aside) then if had a legit magical show. I have a million questions about magic and how any of this actually work to be honest that I never got answered like a decade ago when GOT was at it peak.
>>218157557It's more people pissed because Egg does get permission in the books, but they changed it so they could add gag #843.
>>218157560George hasn’t finished anything. I don’t blame HBO for being petty too
>>218157557because Maekar gives him permission in the books and changing it is probably just an excuse to have a contrived arc (and also get the Maekar actor back) in the next series.
>>218157509Egg is a manDany is entitled woman
>>218156322what the fuck is /dunk/? a dight of the neven kingdoms?
>>218157402Jerk off before you write, George
>>218157391Aemon measures Dunk in Oldtown 6 months after the end of Hedge Knight, so at that point at least the family knows where Egg is
>>218157557it doesn't actually make any sense that Dunc would believe Egg or take Egg without Maekar's permission. it's retarded and conflicts with the astroturfed narrative that this show is an improvement on HotD or GoT.
Egg choosing to immediately lie again to travel with Dunk which in turn risks Dunk getting executed is beyond fucked up.They ruined the character development he was supposed to get from his first lie.
>>218157226>>21815724112yo Arya even lets several adult men play with her nipples in that chapter. Not just the Sweetling, but her coworker too. She's (in character as) a total loli slut.
>>218157574Dawn literally glows white, it's magic. It's so special that House Dayne feel indebted to Ned Stark for returning it instead of keeping it as a spoil of war, despite the fact that he's the guy that supposed to have killed Arthur
>>218157567>it started as a joke, and now its in the showJesus fuck Ira, you are bold enough to put fucking '16 Tons' into the show you may as well just add a blooper reel after the credits instead of forcing all of these stupid jokes into the canon show.
>>218157402She sure is dressed nicely for a commoner what the fuck
Egg here. I’m going to kill my whole family to get dragons. Isn’t that great Dunk? I even have a little sand trap too for the wildfire
>>218157558>I don't know, some anons are saying she's preggo with somebody else's babby,I expect this, but it's the Ciderman. He'll alter the baby's genetics at this rate or knock her up thrice more. For the short scenes they did have together I'm more inclined to believe her wanting to settle with him fast, hence a potential lie.
>>218157609Sry, meant for >>218157299
>>218157593this basically. GRRM doesn't even really know if he's a feminist or not, it's a stunning level of cognitive dissonance.
you guys are morons if you think Maekar would put Dunk on trial for this. He's not an idiot, he knows now that Egg wouldve lied and snuck out so he has no reason to blame Dunk, not to mention bringing him to trial for the same crime twice would make him look like a fool
>>218157621you'll get a clout in the ear if you do that
>>218157597duncan uf the nine kingdoms
the fucking ending song was a strange choice
>>218157509>GRRM clearly knows exactly what he's trying to say in this series.that white people are inherently evil
So Egg is Dany's grandfather in the show, and great grandpa in the books?
>>218157606To be fair he is a child but it’s understanding. Maekar even if he found them probably wouldn’t do anything to Dunk. He’s probably just worried
>>218157615Arya? She's in a play where she plays Sansa in KL.
>>218157493Yes
>>218157637Maekar will obviously get mad at first, maybe appear in season 2 but get over it and let them go
>>218157462this is correct and it's baffling that they had to spell it out/felt the need to spell it out it was all there for the audience to figure out>no witnesses to his knighting other than a robin (which he only saw when he was shitting himself)>did not know the words when he was supposed to knight fossowayunfortunately your average normgroid is incapable of thinking as seen on here where people were actually arguing over whether or not he was knightedit's all besides the point though because the whole point (imo) is that knightly behavior is not about legal technicalities but instead about the way you act
>>218157577Posters are saying it's ambiguous, dozens of them>>218157580This isn't the book so saying it's "ambiguous" because it's different in the book is retarded>>218157604Dunk is retarded this is canonically established, he also makes numerous comments on how Egg is a good kid so Dunk not questioning it makes complete sense
What was the point of Gwin? I thought she and Dunk were gonna get it on.
>>218157644I like that song but yeah its not a great fit. More a mid season one for comedic effect like that rock version of the bear and the maiden fair from GoT
>>218157650Yes. Tywin Lannister was even a cup bearer to Egg
>>218157644I don't even understand what that song thematically has to do with anything that happened in the season.
>>218157659He's not appearing again. The actor said they're not in season 2.
>>218157637Dunk wasn't on trial for kidnapping
>>218157665To kinda show that while the joust was in her honor nobody gave a shit about her, it was an excuse for all the lords to get together and do their political things
Ser why didn’t you knight me?…>has a stroke >comes back
>>218157665She exists so there's a reason to have a tourny, Gwin herself and Ashford aren't important, it's the tourny that's important
>>218157678I can see the general parallels between blue collar workers and knights, I just dont think it fit the final episode specifically.
Not the step father, the father who stepped up
>>218157701>I can see the general parallels between blue collar workers and knightsIn a general sense sure, but it was barely a focus of the show at all.
>>218157686dont let the showrunners see this or they will dumb down the show even further
>>218157686Aerion claimed the reason he wanted a trial of seven was because it was for both the attack and the kidnapping of his brother, but I guess the public didnt know that
My back is hurting like a barrel of apples slanted
>>218157686Yes he was, part of the accusation was by Daeron that he kidnapped Egg, this is why a trial of seven is held and why Daeron is part of it, this is explicitly mentioned
>>218157472What do you suppose are some cut or to be released scenes? And why Arya in particular?
>>218157686P..
>>218157701>>218157711Actually now that I think about it, that song makes FAR more sense for Season 2. Ira might be retarded.
>>218157707Gods that platinum blonde hair is so stupid.
Was Margaery a true knight?https://youtu.be/8QH1936oHFI?t=112
>>218157707He had kids with his brothers daughter
>>218157696I'm not a medieval expert, but I figured regions had tournaments between harvests specifically to increase traffic for economics and general entertainment.Do they always need to have a reason beyond that? I get dedicating it to somebody, but even if it wasn't somebody's birthday, who fucking cares?
>>218157711In the early eps there was a fair bit, with Dunk talking about all the hard work Sir Arlan did with none of the upper class giving a shit about it, so I think you couldve used it at the end of episode one or two, where he was focused on all of Arlans hard work and no one giving a shit
>>218157645Valyrians = Semites, Andals = Whites, First Men = Early Hunter-Gatherers, Rhoynar = Spanish, Summer Islanders = AfricansI don't really get anti-white from him, suprisingly
>>218157644>>218157678what about the jazz at the beginning? what the fuck was that about?
>>218157493>do you accept the Maekar change if that means he comes back in oncoming seasons?the actor has already said he's not coming back for S2
>>218157691>>218157696She didn't have to have lines then, right?
>>218157715It is mentioned by Baelor that Daeron had accused him of kidnapping Egg, Baelor says he has been cast as a "robber knight" and Aerion mentions it when he requests a trial of seven to his father when he asks if he's cowering behind "6,000 years of Andal foolery", it's the entire reason Daeron is part of the trial, that nigger is retarded
I like the Targ blonde white hair. I wish they had purple eyes like the books. True Aryans
>>218157735targs are supposed to be on the boundary of pretty and weird looking, so its perfect. Smith was ideal casting.
>>218157502>Robb is offered thisLulIsn't Roslyn legitimately a babe?
How many bastards would Dunk have?He fucks one of Egg's sisters who marry a Tarth and that's how we get Brienne.He possibly fucks Rohanne, so the Lannisters are descended from him. He fucks Old Nan in the north, and we get Hodor.George confirmed that Dunk's descendants have already interacted in Game of Thrones. Brienne and Jamie?
>>218157574>Is Dawn actually magicYes but aside from shining and probably being indestructible it's just a cool greatsword. George writes swords as almost buffing their weilders, describing Daemon as an incredible fighter but "the Warrior himself" when wielding Blackfyre, so Dawn has a similar narrative effect.>I thought Lightbringer only can become Lightbringer through AA pulling the sword from his dead waifu and magic rituals?Lightbringer probably doesn't exist. It's a metaphor for what makes a hero like AA.>Why did Arthur Dayne lose(show explanation aside) then if had a legit magical showNobody knows. The best theory is that Arthur lost to a surprise attack.George said in an interview that he'd pick Dawn if he had to wield any sword, so that counts for something if we're tiering swords.
>>218157740It matters as a plot device, yes GRRM could've had the tourny happen for a dozen different reasons but he didn't
>>218157751kek, I paused the shit and checked my phone cause I thought I left my funk/jazz playlist running
>>218157753Well, then the viewer would forget her existence too, thus being no better than the nobles there who ignore her
>anons keep talking about the 'medieval' like this is a historic fiction and not set in a fictional fantasy settingwhat the fuck is wrong with all of you
>>218157664you asked why people are confused by the scene and I told you. characters behaving illogically in-universe is not the same as them being "stupid". people expect logical behavior and when the show just has random shit happen their first assumption is that they have missed something, not that the show is just using bad writing.
>>218157771What
>>218157663>your average normgroid is incapable of thinking as seen on here where people were actually arguing over whether or not he was knightedTruly an embarrassment and low point for this general but I remember hotd posters so it’s not surprising one bit
>>218157494>knights out at Boltons and gets executed
>>218157701knights weren't blue collar at all. they were upper middle-class. the concept of a hedge knight is ahistorical in medieval europe and is really taken from Ronin.
>>218157509Dunc is a good knight, Jorah is a pedo.
>>218157770She’s too cute to forget
ASOIAF is at its best where magic doesn't exist and the more magic is involved the worse it becomes.No coincidence that GOT S1 is peak kino and only has bullshit dragons in the last 5 seconds of the season, and no coincidence that dunkakino is what it is and has no magic bullshit.
>>218157574There is a real possibility that Dawn could be the original Lightbringer.The sword is said to be thousands of years old which easily makes it as old as enough as the legend of Azor Ahai.The prince that was promised who will bring "the dawn" is said to be Azor Ahai come againIn this context it obviously bringing the dawn means ending the long night, but it might have a double meaning as in bringing Dawn the magic swordAnd the war itself is called War for the dawn, too many coincidences to pass up>Why did Arthur Dayne lose(show explanation aside) then if had a legit magical showIf I had to guess the sword does not reach its full potential unless The Prince wields it.
>>218157764>Dunk's descendants have already interacted in Game of ThronesThe Mountain and the Hound
>>218157764My boy dunk is making the eight!
11 more seasons bros, every year new Dunc and Egg
>>218157787fucking knew someone was gonna say this kek. Fine, specifically for the starks, and keep him FAR AWAY when freys and boltons
>>218157574Arthur Dayne lost because Howland Reed threw a net on him and stabbed him in the back with a trident.
>>218157766>George writes swords as almost buffing their weilders, describing Daemon as an incredible fighter but "the Warrior himself" when wielding BlackfyreValyrian Steel isn't just high quality steel, it's as advanced compared to normal steel as steel is to bronze. A skilled warrior with a Valyrian blade will be able to slice through fully armoured Knights in steel plate, something impossible with a regular steel sword
7 9 who cares Just find a tree dunk
>>218157792I remember being shocked when GoT finished and I stared to realize how much normie just love the dragons.I literally asked my dad if he'd rather have spin off with a bunch of dragons or one with a really good story, and he was for the dragons lol.
>>218157789well its a good thing this show is about that ahistorical concept and not medieval europe then isnt it anon
>>218157777Dunk is mentioned by other people as being "stupid" and "thick as a castle wall" not that he's illogical you dumb nigger, people are confused by the scene because they're dumb niggers the scene is not ambiguous at all
>>218157654This is incredibly hornyNoble girl playing her sister French kissing her friend's commoner handsome murderer to lower his guard so she can get revenge
>>218157792>ASOIAF is at its best where magic doesn't exist and the more magic is involved the worse it becomes.Shut THE FUCK upDnD thought this, they said exactly this, and look at what they fucking did to EuronYou stupid dumbass ape, never open your mouth again
>>218157654I mean when she gets up with her purple cloak
>>218157799The Mountain being descended from Dunk and smashing Aegon’s head in is tragikino actually
>>218157835Also Rhaegar knighted him as a favour to Tywin.
>>218157805>beds Arya and gets ICE'dWowwwww
>>218157754Dearon wasnt malicious, just drunk>have a dream of some rando giant and a dead dragon>meet said rando giant at the inn>dont realize Egg is gone until Maekar comes looking>oh yeah that rando giant must have taken him>wheres the wine?
>>218157792The first scene in the show was white walkers you dumb fucking retard The books are called A song of ice and fire It’s not our fault that DD can’t write and George can’t finish
>>218157830>ME WANT SEE DRAGONS AND HARRY POTTER SPELLS AND ZOMBIES AND LIGHTSABERS
>>218157828I can tell you're a shill because you are quoting Dunc's inner monologue in the novella to justify a change by the show, which is something bookfags just don't do ever.
>>218157766>Nobody knows. The best theory is that Arthur lost to a surprise attack.It's implied that Ned Stark is just that good, which is why he never shows off his talents. Ned 1v1 beat Dayne by cutting his hand in two, then sent him to the wall where he became Qhorin and ultimately fulfilled his kingsguard vow to protect Rhaegar's son by letting Jon kill him. It is known.
Wait where did it say that Sir Arlan was never knighted?
>>218157654>>218157829I thought Arya was playing Shae which is why she’s supposed to be getting raped by Tyrion
>>218157754Did you miss the latter part of that post? Nobody knew about Daeron's claim except Baelor and Maekar, and whoever else was in the room. Daeron never even names or describes Duncan. It was a matter of circumstance and after five minutes everybody realized Egg was just a humongous faggot that ran away.Baelor admits this. Maekar admits this. Daeron admits this. Aerion doesn't even care, which is why he twists his story even further in an effort to secure the trial.
If you want less magic read First Law...All the magic requires sacrifice and only like two guys can do it
>>218157829Oh absolutely. Not sure why people are so shocked by it, The first book starts with a child watching twin siblings fuck each other and then attempt to murder him followed by another child being raped by Genghis Khan.
>>218157850You must have been a fun of the great writing of nomagical Euron "finger in the bum" Greyjoy then, you witless buffoon
>I hate magic even though I want a Valyrian empire show and the entire series is about these magic dragon people and magic dragon wolf peopleMAGGGICCCC
George said Dawn has more magical properties than Valyrian steel
>>218157609>12yo Arya even lets several adult men play with her nipples in that chapter. Not just the Sweetling, but her coworker too. She's (in character as) a total loli slut.
>>218157857GRRM has literally said that Ned was an average swordsman and Ned mentions Arthur would have killed him if not for Howland Reed
>>218157830>DnD thought this, they said exactly this, and look at what they fucking did to EuronThat's hardly the biggest reasons why the show was bad lel. Euron hasn't even done anything magical in the books yet. He's just a evil bastard.
>>218157862people think that might be why dunk wasnt knighted/why if he was he doesnt know the words if he was knighted
>>218157895Stop posting chainsawman and ruining the thread holy fuck. Manga hasn’t been good in years bud
>>218157875Oh no I'm all for it because I am cursed with insatiable lust
>Aemond, you want to hit this shit?
>>218157867God the first law fucking rocks.I was originally really put off by the lack of worldbuilding, but since reading them I have come to the conclusion that worldbuilding just wastes time and it's better to have good characters/plot.
episode sucked.
>>218157876>you think magic is bullshit and detracts from the story (especially in the way GRRM does it) therefore you love D&D sloppaaverage magic enjoyer spastic
>>218157904>he got filtered by the better half of the story when it stopped be shonenslopembarrassing to admit that anon
>>218157916>Taooba!
If Dunk really wanted to follow in Arlan's footsteps why doesn't he travel to Essos and ride amongst the Dothraki for a few years?
>>218157901I mean, it's mentioned explicitly in the show now that Arlan never knighted him because he didn't want Dunk to die in some war for some dumbass Noble who would never remember his name.
>>218157854It's not an inner monologue in the show though you stupid nigger, you need to learn to separate the novellas from the show especially when you're on a board about television & film you stupid nigger, the novellas don't matter at all when talking about the show
>>218157899>That's hardly the biggest reasons why the show was bad lelThat shows DnD fundamentally misunderstood the source material, it's all connectedThey are retards and so is that anon, who believes by removing magic the story gets better, as if the presence of magic was EVER the fucking problem with the later seasonsNo fucking magic in the dorne subplot, no magic in show euron, no magic in cutting faegon, no magic in littlefinger selling sansaMagic is not the issue, retarded hollywood writers who think magic is the issue are the issue.
>>218157916Yes Hightower. The dragon needs fire
>>218157876EURON ISN'T EVEN MAGICAL YOU BOZO HE'S JUST COOL
The show didn’t do the magic very good at all. It just wasn’t portrayed well. Only like one or two scenes were acceptable. Mirri in the tent. Thoros in the cave. Etc. It’s meant to be horror. Even the shadow Melisandre birthed was just silly. It’s not meant to be some gooey tar creature. It’s something trippy.
>>218157921oh shit HOTD season 3 leaked?
>>218157931GOBACK THENWe’re not here to talk about that fucking retard braindead goyium
>>218157923>you think magic is bullshit and detracts from the story (especially in the way GRRM does it)You haven't explained how or whyThe book hooks you with undead ice wraiths, so clearly it's hard to make the argument that the books owe their success to not having magic at first
>>218157854In-fact I suggest you take your gorilla looking nigger face to /lit/
Dumb and Dumber kind of thought that the magic was gay so they turned the cotf into some gay not!elf that lives forever and can throw fireballs God I hate them so much
>>218157937fuckin crazy you guys cant understand the difference between implicitly and explicitly
>>218157896When did he say that? Not disputing it, just hadn't heard. Any number of ways that Howland could have accomplished it. I think George wants us to believe it was some sneaky thing, but that it will actually turn out to be less direct, like taking out one of the other kingsguard or revealing something shocking, etc.Either way, Dayne is obviously Qhorin.
>Lord Stark, if you and your men would accompany me to the tower interior, your sister can explain the situation. For the sake of confidence, my men and I will forfeit our arms, including my ancestral blade, for the time being. Hurry now, I fear it might be too late!
>>218157941>Magic is not the issueCool I'm glad we agree so stop using it as an argument you dumb youtube book synopsis nigger
>>218156369Based Arlen
>>218157941GRRM probably misunderstood his own source material too. that's the only explanation for him thinking his audience wanted a realpolitik ending where we learn heroism is le bad and people are the real monsters, etc.
Most people who enjoy the magic in asoiaf only appreciate it for the dark souls effect not an appreciation for psychology or the mystery or the subtlety or the implications Dark souls has brain rotted game of thrones fans; it’s not a fucking system to press buttons; George hates spammable magic
>>218157974Unironically why did they fight Ned? Did they think he would harm his own sister?
>>218157965kek>we want the housewife and nfl player audience
>>218157936>I cant go, Egg. I wouldn't be much of A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms if I left
>>218156380Kys pedo
>>218157936He does go to Essos
It’s true. Magic is subtle and more about mystique and presence and the unknown in the books. When it DOES work at all it is horrifically effective and brutal.
>>218157982>GRRM probably misunderstood his own source material too.The fat fuck genuinely thinks Peter Dinklage was the most accurate casting from the book even though Dinklage is like a midge supermodel and Tyrion is a fucking disaster.
>>218157974>>218157985Rhaegar is the retard. He told Art to don't let anyone, and he meant ANYONE, to approach Lyanna and the prince who was promised.
>>218157985Ned probably did the dumbshit that Brandon did and called out for their heads.
>>218157188he would avenge the death of micah by killing sansa
>>218157946>Remember when Beric had to do a whole ass ritual ceremony to light his sword on fire and looked like a fucking unkempt, undead ghoul? I remember...
>>218157985The Kingsguard are sworn to defend the Royal Family and Ned's friend Robert just killed Rhaegar
>>218157958>work made by one japanese guy is more jewish than work made by an army of jewsdont even know how you could convince yourself of that anon
>>218157277someone finally fetched the dwarf stretcher then. deepest lore
>>218157829>>218157875Let’s not forget that Sansa is currently larping as Littlefinger’s daughter while also sometimes making out with him. This is mostly because Littlefinger flip flops between seeing Sansa as his daughter and Sansa as his lover> "I would never have known it from the kiss you gave me." He pulled her closer, caught her face between his hands, and kissed her on the lips for a long time. "Now that's the sort of kiss that says welcome home. See that you do better next time.">"Yes, Father." She could feel herself blushing.GRRM is into some deviant shit.I wouldn’t be surprised if he has Sansa sleep with Littlefinger at some point while he calls her by her mother’s name
Rhegar and Dante deserved to have there balls cuts off and hanged. It’s a shame Ned and Robert were so merciful to braindead NPCs
99% of the people into the magic only want to see fireballs and crap Fuck them
>>218157963thanks for concedingthis show sucks btw
Podrick looks like the Fossoway guy. Are they related?
>>218158020ModsJannies Off topic spam>>218158020>>218157931>>218157895>>218157546
>>218158037The only IMDB pictures of the fossoway guy have him looking like a dyke as an adult, or as a chubby kid.The makeup people for Dunk and Egg did a good job fixin him.
>>218157937its left open-ended because Arlan doesn't actually die in that scene so could have still knighted him offscreen afterwards. really because the writers don't want to commit either way because they're have no artistic vision and just think mysteryboxing things will keep people watching.
>>218158061I agree mystery boxes are stupid but in this situation you are just retarded.
>Arlan is an absuser because he gave Dunk a couple of good clouts in the ear is an actual takeA lot of fucking retards needed their parents to give them a goods clout in the ear, I say
>>218158061>because the writers don't want to commit either way because they're have no artistic visionoh fuck off anon, if they confirmed it either way this thread wouldve been way angrier about it going against the ambiguity in the books, they made the best decision.
>>218157792>Season 1>White walkers, the wall, Mirri maz dur, wargingGood b8 tho
Why was Lyonel given such a retarded maester
>>218158086ambiguity about Duncan being a knight doesn't exist in the novella, we have his internal monologue and know he isn't lying. it's just a pointless addition. they didn't have to raise it as a question at all.
>>218157867Say one thing for the First Law, say it's a good fucking book.
>>218157974>noh...nah et ens
>>218158015And? Where was the Kingsguard during the Targaryen's historic fondness for brutality against their own kin, including Aerys II's own well-documented fondness for raping his wife? What of the other oaths they swore? Where was the Sword of the Morning when he was forsaking them for what, his personal relationship with a tyrant prince? Dawn lay better in the hands of a cutthroat than a hypocrite.
>>218158112HE REFUSES TO KNIGHT PEOPLE AND MAKES AN EXCUSE EVERYTIME SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TOMAYHAP BECAUSE HE HIMSELF ISN'T A KNIGHT AND IN DOING SO WOULD CREATE A FALSE KNIGHTSTUPID NIGGER
>>218158112>we have his internal monologue and know he isn't lyinghe never thinks about when he was knighted, he only talks about it out loud to other peopleread the books you monkey
>>218158121Whatever Jaimie, you wouldn't get it
Magic is so weak in asoiaf why even bother learning it
>>218158111Only maester willing to give that fruit his PrEP
>>218158112>we have his internal monologue and know he isn't lyingHIS FIRST THOUGHT after Arlan's dead is to look for another knight to SQUIRE FORTO-SQUIRE-FOR
>>21815812190% of the stuff regarding Robert's rebellion has 100% not been properly thought out by GRRM.He came up with some cool ideas like R+L, Tower of Joy, Lyanna being the mystery knight, etc. But he didn't think about how to connect it and have it make sense.
>>218158061More like they want to do some hook.You can tell that they really think this shit was going to be only one season
>>218156833I mean, I don't understand why some people are thinking that he will never release Winds. With all that time to make it, it's pretty obvious that it's almost done. But A Dream of Spring? That shit is NEVER coming out from his hands, kek
Rhaenyra's tits! Get me a new thread before I piss myself
Remember fellas, if your only expertise with the books is from youtubers recapping them and making lukewarm theory videos, don't pretend you've actually read any of them here. We can always tell.
Why didn't Neddard tell Bobby about Jon? Thought they were supposed to be frens, brothers even. This don't seem like a proper friendship...
>>218158186>I don't understand why some people are thinking that he will never release Winds. With all that time to make it, it's pretty obvious that it's almost done*Sigh*Another oneAnon give it upHe's been scrapping and rewriting charpters for years, he's not even halfway there and will never make progress
>>218158135>>218158136>>218158159xD
Isn't Lyonel supposed to be like 20-years old at this time? And Baelor like 30-40? Both are greying, over middle-aged men in the tv show
>>218158200In a way, it was mercy, had he told him his friend would have become a babe killer, and he would have spent the rest of his life even more miserable than he already was
get me the thread stretcher
>>218157993>2015Gods I wrote books back then!
>>218158186>I mean, I don't understand why some people are thinking that he will never release WindsI think that without another COVID type scenario where he can't go out for burritos and such every day, it's more likely than not that Winds won't be released. It's definitely still possible, but very unlikely.
>>218158212I can kinda see Baelor but Lyonel was just a huge miscastHe's supposed to be a giant young man, almost as big as dunk
Shouldn't Valarr be the new heir to the throne?
Can we have a thread where Anons post all the WEBMS and edits from this season?
>>218158238He is
>>218158238*cough* y-yeah *cough* *HACK* *cough* why wouldn't I be?
>>218158200Bobby would have killed him and he promised Lyanna to protect him.
Post redhead
>>218158248I thought it was implied that Maekar was the new heir?
>>218158277>Bobby would have killed himObviously this is what Ned was worried about, but I always wonder if Robert would have actually killed Jon. Maybe he would have as a baby, but maybe if Ned waited a couple years and then told him Robert would have been like "whatever".Obviously there's no real reason to tell Bobby at that point, but it could have maybe at least helped to easy the strain with Cat.
>>218158282which one?
EAT SHIT, SARRAH
>>218158305All of them
>>218158300>but I always wonder if Robert would have actually killed Jon.He would because he was impulsive, but he would have also regretted it for the rest of his life
>>218158287Maekar has 3 older brothers.
>>218158218>had he told him his friend would have become a babe killerWhy do so many people make this baseless assumption? Robert wasn't Aerys II or Tywin Lannister.Also the info would presumably come with the reality that Lyanna just did not love Robert like that. It creates the opportunity for him to maybe, you know, move on with his life, instead of sulking over his oneitis.All I'm saying is, Edward kinda seems like a shitty, cowardly friend whose sense of "honor" seems to be something dropped at the first real sign of trouble.
>>218158287I think the scene with Maekar and Dunk gives off that vibe, but it never directly implies it.It doesn't really matter for the show audience though, because I don't think there is a reason to meet Aerys.
>>218158300>Robert “I’ll kill every Targaryen I get my hands on” Baratheon
>>218156713That was the point idiot, it made Dunk realize he needs to take Egg away from them to prevent him from turning like his brother.
>>218158324>he was impulsive>makes no attempt at Viserys or Dany until they prove a potential threat
>>218158300He would have had to either kill him or let him have the throne (in which case he or his supporters would probably kill Robert)
>>218158324>>218158344See I'm with you with directly post-war Robert, but I think if Robert met 5 year old Jon, then Ned pulled him to the side and told him what's up, I think he would have let it slide by then as long as Ned doesn't start advertising it.
>>218156781https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iaJMcFMNmPY
>>218158362Correct, until he heard no news of them he didn't act, then when reminded of their existence he impulsively ordered them dead, just to regret it like two days later.He lived in the moment and in the past, rarely ever in the future
>>218158362I read a doujin where she molests a young boy
>>218157993>keep reading
>>218158371“I’ll kill every Targaryen I get my hands on” is a quote from 20 years later when he’s having a council meeting about killing Targaryens. Robert’s rage never calmed with time because he never moved on from that moment. That’s why he is a fat, whoring, drunk.
This line was put in by grrm right?
>>218158397Must have meant keep reading these books because I’m not writing any more
Arya + Jon Snowrate my ship
>>218158287Maekar is now like 4th in line? (I think Valarr also had a son in the book? Can’t remember)
>>218158387>>218158401Sure but that's also in the context of Targs directly gathering power again, which Robert was posthumously correct to be worried about.
>>218158371I think it's worth considering >ned was young >made an oath>last time he saw robert was after targ baby killing>no guarantee bobby wouldn't actually kill himSo there's no reason to actually tell Robert
>>218158423Fuck off and finish the books George
>>21815842310/10back when GrrM was based-tier
>casterly rock>is a castle on a rock
>>218158387>their existenceThe emphasis was always on the Dothraki Whorde at their backs and potential loyalists still in Westeros.There's an entire scene in the middle of this subplot, after he "impulsively" orders their assassinations, where he discusses this with Cersei, levelheaded, and making the most sense out of any king portrayed in the entire series.He didn't want them dead for existing, he wanted them dead because he couldn't get to the people who were manipulating the war he previously prophetically knows is coming.
Sworn Sword is pretty funny
>>218158480>>218158480>>218158480next season
>>218158439Yeah even if Ned could reasonably determine Robert wouldn't kill Jon I agree there is very little reason to tell him.It feels weird that Ned wasn't confident enough to at least tell Cat to get her to chill the fuck out.I get it's still a little risky but ehhhh
>>218158423Jon... didn't you learn anything from what happened to Rhaegar?Stay away from she wolves.
>>218158492Cat is a fucking idiot, he was 100% correct to not tell her
>>218158401They weren’t really worried about him killing Jon in a blind rage they were worried that killing Jon is mandatory after the rebellion. Myrcella has no problem with Tommen at all yet Joffrey is dead for like five minutes before someone starts plotting to put her on the throne instead of Tommen. Thats also why people bitch about HotD whitewashing Rhaenyra, its because civil war is basically mandatory the moment Aegon is born
>>218158402Or just by Ira to have a bit of fun lol.
>>218158539Honestly, fair.
REST IN BEES Bees buried
>>218157208The fact Aerion would have won if he wasn't facing a man made of plot armour is baffling. It undermines the entire point, that Aerion is hiding behind the trial of seven to try and avoid fighting Dunk at all as well as relying on the fact that if Dunk can SOMEHOW find 6 champions (even after Aerion lures away Fossoway with a lordship), aerion will have 3 kingsguard (we only saw 2 for some reason) and his dad to protect him. As it stands given how much he dominated the fight I'm confused why he didn't just accept the trial by combat in the first place, he seemed to actively seek out Dunk to fight him alone.
>>218158439The overarching point is that it's wrong of Ned to claim to be a friend, yet lie and ghost his claimed best friend, for what?Not to mention he abandons the rest of the seven kingdoms to the rule of somebody he subconsciously considers an emotional wreck?>WOT?! HOW COULD ROBERT BANKRUPT THE KINGDOM?Like nigga, YOU did this by starting a war for no other reason than your personal motivations lmao. You and your ancestors ignored EVERYTHING Aerys II did for years until his madness came calling to (You)r family, then suddenly you can call banners across the seven kingdoms to fight and die for you, then promptly abandon the empty throne and take no responsibility in the failures that followed YOUR rebellion.Eddard Stark is the gayest nigga in the story. His execution of Will is a testament to his character; just a soldier following orders, with no understanding of why he swings his sword.>mfw that scene in the dungeon where Varys of all people has to remind him of his daughterskek, what a fucking loser cunt
Friendship bros...we fucking won....
>>218156713I keep on seeing posts like this on basically every aspect of the show that isn’t explicitly stated and it depresses the fuck out of me. No one has the ability to infer anything from media or literature anymore. We’re fucking cooked bros.
>>218156322I would dunk my eggs into this little twirp's boyhole But really dunk should have know better than to take him at his word. Lying little targ shit.
>>218157919>>218158116...back to the mud...
>>218157009It's ridiculous. His orbital bone should be in pieces.
