Previously >>218199821
>>218203150https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8j15wQUQyI
>>218203150Maelor Targaryen... I shupposhe that's off the table as well?
These threads are getting worse with every year
>>218203230do you want a clout in the ear?
A toast to all the beeeees
>>218203190Lot of new faces
>>218203253Green girl!
>>218203253that PRETENDER aegon did not appreciate her like she deserves
>Men call me Shadow the Baratheon and I am of the stormBravo
A question to the Reddit atheist that keep claiming "The Seven Is a fake religion": how did the Andals defeated the First Men tho, despite their Old Gods magic, Children of the Forest, Giants and so on?Either The Seven are indeed real and stronger than the OGs; or the Andals are apparently a superior race of ubermen stronger than magic and gods. Which option do you like less?
>>218203285I will get up and clap at my screen audibly screaming "KINO" if that happens
>>218203285Are you perhaps talking about ser Arrion "The Sneaking Storm" Baratheon? The leggendary assassin?
>>218203321thanks for the seizure
>>218203190>tfw nobody showing any cleavage
>>218203253She's buzzed
>>218203300Because they had better gear and tactics. The seven are fakeThe old gods are fake
>>218203281>maile over the head with no padding underneathAlways pisses me off.
>>218203400How did the First Men defeated immortal ice elves with undead armies if also the Old Gods are fake?
>>218203413Because the red god is real.
I'm rewatching GoT and I want Viserys to win he would be the most gracious prince I know it. He would be like Aegon but not a Blackfyre FRAUD.
>7 fooking kingdoms and then we got this pygmy thing over in the kings landing
HeloMor Dunk wen???
>>218203253
>>218203474>My estimation of the Blackfyres as a ruling dynasty just plummeted
>>218203190kek at the couple making out in the back @ 23:06
>Rohanne to Dunk on S2How should he respond?
which is your favourite eyrie and backdrop or would you switch one eyrie with another backdrop or would you impregnate the bitch with 50..no, 20..no, ah 10 good men?
>>218203321
>>218203190Jesus I can't imagine watching the show in this enthronement
>>2182035853 looks like it could feasibly exist in the real world so I guess that one
>>218203585The eyrie is the worst all the trips up and down in the books are super boring I hate all the Eyries
>woman getting raped>Dunk
>>218203585Bloody gate of 2 with the Eyrie of 1. It's the only one that seems to have that fucking retarded day long climb to get to the actual castle.
>>218203454>golden durag incoming
>>218203585>Eyrie famously has a "bloody gate">1 doesn't even have a gate>2 looks like a miniature fortress>3 looks like a basic fucking wallgive me gate from 2 and Eyrie 1, this is supposed to be a fantasy, give me a fantastical castle, not some basic shit you could see in real life
>>218203585Wtf do they eat in there?
>>218203643Food
>>218203569this nigga zesty
Only just saw the link to the next thread. Reposting my comment:>>218202629>>218202652I do agree that something feels very off about the faceless men. Why do they do killing as a service for payment? Just so they can afford groceries and rent? I'm not saying you can not combine a business and a religion, obviously you can (monasteries etc.). But we don't really know anything about their religious motivation nor their business strategy. Do they also just kill for fun on their own? What do they do with the money they earn? What's their whole rational about who deserves to decides who's death?
Glendon Ball:>I'm here outta respect for my fawtha
>>218203253makes sense
>>218203321Ahem…kino
>>218203670*Flowers
>>218203580>My best friend Rafe, she was a girl!
>>218203666yeah who paid the faceless men to kill the night king?
>>218203691>westeros memri
>read mystery knight>Blackfyre shit got BTFOD' hard by a whore's sonKINO as fuck. Book 2 was kinda ass though ngl
>>218203300No gods exist, and neither do distinct traditions of magic. Some people have a telepathy gene than can get activated by drugs and trauma. They can then will certain things to happen. They interpret this in-universe through their respective cultural lense, but that's all just placebo: Red priests think they have to look into flames to see visions, but the power is actually in themselves. The Starks and Targaryens are just wargs who could control anything, but they only focus on their sigil animal. Etc.Planetos is one of the 1000 worlds, the Weirwoods are the Hrangans, the comet is a Volcryn.
>>218203595>enthronement
>>218203670Chud was built different frfr
>>218203474>>218203569(after losing his 3 sons in Redgrass field)>"First off let me just say how sorry I am for your loss. We all are.">"Take your fucking sorries and stick them in your ass."
>>218203774yeah book 2 was boringbut if dunk truly survives summerhall, and manages to live happily ever after with rohanne, then im all for it
What would your career in Westeros be? I would be a alchemist pyromancer. Basically the superior magic Maester, and they FUCK.
Why didn't Varys know about Alayne appearing in the Vale? Don't you think Petyr suddenly having a daughter about the same age as Sansa, who looks like Sansa, as soon as she vanished was suspicious?
>>218203670He's the hair apparent
>>218203832think I would hedge if I could get my way to squire otherwise working carpentry or someshit maybe baking
>>218203832I'd be a pyromancer as well. Actually, I'd be your superior as a pyromancer, both in terms of skill and rank.
>>218203833Varys died and got replaced by his twin brother Vorys who only cares about turning the realm into a shithole so Illyrio's golden boy can own it.
>>218203831The only thing I like about book 2 was how very small scale it was. Felt like some sidequest Egg and Dunk just walked into
>>218203833of course Varys knows. but he only reveals things at a time that serves his own agenda
>>218203832Necromancer
>>218203300Magic exists because of the 2 moonsThere is a red moon where fire magic and dragons comes from, and a white moon where ice magic and the Others come from.The red moon exploded a long time ago for some unknown reason, and that was what brought forth the Long Night.White moon is still here, and therefore Winter is Coming.The Great Other, Rhllor, The Seven etc.. all don't exist. They're just religious rationalisations made by various different people across Planetos on how and why magic exists (kinda like IRL religion)TLDR Planetos is basically our world, but with 2 magical moons. Oh and also Dawn (Arthur Dayne's sword) is forged from a fragment of the white moon.
>>218203832Some farmer who got conscripted in the Wot5K and dies from getting trampled by the enemy cavalry.
>>218203883Na, it's okay. I just realised the timeframe is too tight. Varys had to get out of dodge once he was forced to free Tyrion, which would have been shortly after Sansa took flight.
>>218203831>but if dunk truly survives summerhallpersonally I don't know if I like this idea, Dunk sticking to "Egg" even after he becomes just another mad Aegon feels more right for him, and we all know GRRM doesn't let his characters have happy endings
>>218203832>>218203868>>218203885those arent real actual jobs you retards. they're just diff groups of people who can use magic.
>>218203321Pretty kino, anon.
Just remembered that Dany relegalised slavery in the books. Why do normalscum like her again? That's the only thing that made her "different" than the other claimants. Even Stannis doesn't enslave people btw
>>218203916kek
>>218203916Pryomancers of Kings Landing are an actual group and get paid for it doe. They just make magic napalm instead of casting a spell to set people on fire. Necromancer is just dudes in Asshai eating babies and the Others
>If I may, Grand Maester, I took the liberty of preparing a fresh set of herbal poultices that might be more effective.>That will not be necessary, Orwyle. The leechings have always brought His Grace relief.HOLY SHIT the maester conspiracy was right, Otto bought him off
>Regicide can be challenged by demanding a trial by combatso if you're the best at fighting you can just do whatever the fuck you want and demand trials by combat to get away with it?
>>218203931> Even StannisEven stannis? He’s the most moral and good claimant. If he became king of seven kingdoms whole continent would prosper
>>218203957they only existed because Aerys existed and was made enough to employ people to be magical arsonists AKA westerosi BLM lootersand they were only kept around because Cersei is equally as evil as Aerys and Soros IRLyou're basically getting paid by crazy Soros to be a cityburning nigger, hope you know that.
>>218203901Where do you get this stuff from?
>>218203670>>218203813>2 years or more until this KINOAieeeeeee
>>218203968Not really. Blood raven in the novella faced the same shit and he just ordered his men to capture Daemon II
How did dunk not lose his eye here? it was obviously shown that something cut him when Aerion was moving shit around in his visor, but his eye is still there
>>218203967>Ah yes, the (((maesters)))
>>218203968The trial is done to establish guilt, if everyone has seen you stab the king no trial will be held, you will just be executed
>>218203974This.
You’re not gonna believe this. Renly Baratheon is an ASS MUNCHER.
>>218204077OHH
>>218203253aegon was a lucky man
>>218204077SON OF A WHOREI cant believe I stuck up for the guy
>>218203999They reached their height under Aerys but they existed far longer. Possibly existing as a guild before the Targs conquered Westeros. They were sort of just slumming it under Robert.
>>218204007From the various subtext, fantheories, and my own personal headcanon projected into it. The moons being magical are subtextually confirmed in both ASOIAF and TWOIAF, the red moon exploding is explicitly confirmed multiple times, and the red moon being fire and white moon being ice is also subtextually confirmed.The religion part is my own headcanon. If you want I can try to find it all for you.
>>218204077The fuck did you shay?
>>218203968I think trial by combat can't be used when everyone is 100% sure you are guilty of an actual crime. Like you can't just murder a guy in plain sight and go "lol trial by combat"
>>218203410I dunno why they do it. There's no way a GOT production in current day doesn't have easy access to middle ages consultants. It's not even like a simple coif would look bad under the maille or hide the actor's face.
>>218204077I feel like I've been stabbed in the heart! How much more betrayal can I take?!
>>218204094have you written a fanfic good ser?
>>218204077catching not pitching!?
>>218204109You’re blind, there’s padding
>>218204077Catching, not pitching
>>218204094Yeah, point me to the sources. I wanna know how much is word of god and what is mere fan theories.
>>218204117No ser I have not. Fanfic is for faggots, I'm afraid. I'm also employed so I dont have time for that BS
>>218203832i'd run a brothel
>>218204133source: it came to me in a dream
There is only ONE (1) true, benevolent religion which guarantees complete conquest of an entire continent without evil blood magic.
>Well played, my lord anon. Though should I be worried? The general grows smaller everyday.
What was the point of this shite?
>>218203968It's just a plot device for characters with plot armor like Dunc and Tyrion.
>>218204210According to D&D it doesn’t have any meaning
>>218204210Wait until they release winds
>>218204210They were trying to make a triforce
>>218204210Art is supposed to disturb the comfortable and comfort the disturbed. The Others are true artists.
>>218204077>"if it's up to me I'd drag Renly behind my destrier right now.">"Oh, will you take it easy over there fucking High Sparrow."
>>218204210Others were simply bored.
>>218204133It'll take awhile, there's a ton of text I have sift through, but the exploding moon one is easy to find so I'll start with it.Exploding moon, AGOT, Daenarys III:>“A trader from Qarth once told me that dragons came from the moon,” blond Doreah said as she warmed a towel over the fire...>Silvery-wet hair tumbled across her eyes as Dany turned her head, curious “The moon?”>“He told me the moon was an egg, Khaleesi,” the Lysene girl said. “Once there were two moons in the sky, but one wandered too close to the sun and cracked from the heat. A thousand thousand dragons poured forth, and drank the fire of the sun. That is whydragons breathe flame. One day the other moon will kiss the sun too, and then it will crack and the dragons will return.”
>>218204204blackfyre fucker
>>218204204WE MUST POST!
>>218204133Final Fantasy VIII
>>218204210sacred kike geometry
>>218204204I shupposhe the thread stretcher is off the table as well...
>>218204204Why none forced Varys to grow hair to check out if he’s Blackfyre fucking shyte?
>>218204210it looked cool
>>218204289Ser Criston Cole has posted
>>218204047 From what i can tell Aerion rammed his Crossguard in there, which isn't as sharp as say, a dagger and couldn't penetrate as far.As to why Dunc didn't lose an eye from getting it poked with a blunt crossguard: well clearly he's built different.
>>218203968>I demand a trial by combat!>No.>But your honor...>No.It's that simple. You don't need to accept their request and continue as usual.
>>218204047that's the crossguard of the sword, not the blade, it's just sort of ornate rather than outright sharp, its clunky design can't fully fit through the visor gap and there'd be just enough give in the helmet for Dunk to jerk his head backwards and away from the intrusion so it only stabs around the eye or shallow enough to not actually damage his sight
>>218204342Knights, no matter their status of birth, cannot be denied a trial by combat.[1]
>>218204077lies and slander, he will give Margery Tyrell 27 children and defeat Stannis, screencap this raven
Is Brianne really related to Dunc?
>>218203569>>218203827>Aenys Blackfyre, whatever happened there...
>>218204133>>218204267Exploding moon II, ACOK, Davos I:>“A hundred days and a hundred nights he labored on the third blade, and as it glowed white-hot in the sacred fires, he summoned his wife. ‘Nissa Nissa’ he said to her, for that was her name, ‘bare your breast, and know that I love you best of all that is in this world.’ She did this thing, why I cannot say, and Azor Ahai thrust the smoking sword through her living heart.>It is said that her cry of anguish and ecstasy left a crack across the face of the moon>but her blood and her soul and her strength and her courage all went into the steel. Such is the tale of the forging of Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes.”Note the first source was told by a Dothraki (Doreah), and the second told by a Qaartheen (Salvador Saan), 2 people living far away from each other, both collaborating their religious myth around the same phenomenon of one of the moons "cracking" AKA basically exploding.I'll try to find the subtexts for the moons being magical, and one being fire (red moon) and the other being ice (white moon) for you. But it'll take even longer since I cant remember the exact chapters lol. Although the red moon being subtextually fire is already more or less implied when it exploded and fire-breathing dragons came out.
>>218203569The fuck is going on with his fingers
>>218204338.....and what did Ser Criston had posted?
>>218204427drawing hands is hard nigga
>>218204412Wait never mind, just realized, both stories came from Qarth. Anyways, doesnt really disprove much since the red comet seen in the end of AGOT and the start of ACOK is said by George in an interview to be a fragment of the already exploded red moon. Will take much longer to find that interview though.
>>218204399pls respond
>>218204466Yeah, she probably is
>>218204399>>218204466Maybe
>>218204466>ass to ass guy burnt inHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Aerion fought with honor and distinguish himself during the third bf rebellionbased...
>>2182043991) Shes extremelly tall and muscular for her sex2) In a Brienne PoV chapter she remember that the first shield she ever used was one she found in the Tarth armory: the description of it fit 100% with the shield Duncan used in the Ashford tourney, Oak and falling star included>Martin confirmed there are descendant of Duncan wandering around in the GoT timeframe and some of them appeared in the main story
>>218203321>Is that a heckin match shot?!?>I'M LITERALLY GOING INSANE!!!!!!Also, you missed the match shot in Episode one, between the gold coin on the inn table, and the copper coin in the dirt
>>218204543Yeah shame about his preference for strong liquors though
>>218204133>>218204267>>218204412Also: another interesting find that even I dont know about - there was originally supposed to be a HBO spinoff about the Long Night.Titled: Bloodmoon. https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Bloodmoon>Bloodmoon was the production title of HBO's first Game of Thrones spin-off series. It was colloquially referred to as Game of Thrones: The Long Night. It was to be set during the Age of Heroes, millennia before the original TV series, and was intended to depict the events of the Long Night.Yeah so basically it's 1000% confirmed there were 2 moons, and the red one (Bloodmoon) exploded and brought forth the first Long Night, like I said. Faggots who continue to doubt me >>218204298 and make fun of me can continue to do so, but I know my lore so idc. I'll keep finding those subtexts about the moons being the source of magic for you though.
>>218204409>Whatever happened there...WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE? I'll tell you what happened, that piece of shit Bloodraven chopped the kids head off without any provocation, what so ever.
>>218203968A trial is held to determine the person's guilt and the severity of the crime they commited/what punishment should be given. Dunk attacked a prince which is normally a crime, but everyone with a brain agreed that he was right to do so and so shouldn't be punished. So the trial happens because Aerion accused him of the crime and wanted justice for himself, but Dunk wins by making Aerion withdraw the accusation and basically admit that Dunk was right to attack him.
>>218204566lmao I remember even hbo said that shit was too woke
>>218204466Brienne talks about seeing a shield which had Dunk's coat of arms in Tarth. Bran sees a vision from the past of Dunk kissing a young woman in Winterfell. George confirmed Dunk's descendants appears in the mainline story. Brienne and Hodor are the most possible.
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>>218203901>>218204094>>218204267>>218204412>>218204566it's been awhile since we got a hyperautistic loremaester who actually knows his shit in these threads, well met good ser!
>>218204566Those things are legends and worldbuilding, you fucking retard. Do you believe in snarks and grumkins too? They are alluded in the books multiple times too, as are merlings. In fact, there's funny tidbit in awoiaf where gurm makes fun of you autists, by reporting that in Asshai people are convinced that Casterly Rock in Westeros is fully made of gold. You have to understand that those stories from far east are just a hearsay and are not meant to be taken at face value.
>>218204210looks like bagina
>>218204210I thought they were mimicking/mocking the Children who used similar patterns (in the show)
>>218204566>Faggots who continue to doubt me >>218204298 (You) and make fun of me
Is there a webm of Arlan telling the story about Pennytree?
>>218204210thats the theta, the symbol of the Ecological Engineering CorpsFrom Tuf Voyaging:>“Please!” said Tuf with indignation. “I am an ecological engineer. The Ark can remake whole planets, Guardian. True, I am but one man, alone, when once this ship was crewed by two hundred, and I do lack the extensive formal training such as was given centuries ago to those who wore the golden theta, the sigil of the Ecological Engineers. Yet, in my own small way, I contrive to muddle through. If Namor would care to avail itself of my services, I have no doubt that I can help you.”from the in the house of the worm>"It shocks me that the Manworm remembers anything, • the Meatbringer said. But I have talked to knights, too, learned their ˜secret ™ lore, listened to stories of a long-ago war. The grouns remember better. They have legends of the coming of the yaga-la-hai, who changed all the high burrows. The grouns are the First People, you know. The worm-children they call the Second People. I was a great puzzle to them at first, with my four limbs and my eyes that see, neither First nor Second. But I brought them flesh and learned their tongue, and so taught them of the Third People. You mock groun secrets, and in truth they are as rotting as you, yet they know things. They remember the Changemasters, their great enemies and the greatest friends of the yaga-la-hai, who wore the theta as a sigil, and in times long gone made the spiders and the worms and a thousand other things. Here, where I live, was where they sculptured and shaped the stuff of life, so the yaga-la-hai might live. Here they fashioned the blood worms that still afflict the grouns, the light-hunger that drives them upward to their deaths if they catch it, and the huge white eaterworms that multiply and grow more terrible every day.
>>218204678what's bagina?
>>218204566>and the red one (Bloodmoon) explodedwhat do you mean it exploded?
>>218204729
>>218204188>Bee tribe all smiles celebrating his life and inspiring the next generation instead of being sadThis house is awesome with wholesome customs
>>218203901>>218204094>>218204267>>218204412>>218204566Ok, but how does Moon Boy fit into all this?
>>218204781>they use vulture bees to turn every dead noble into a new bee hive They are based
>>218204662nta but i think different legends from different places talking about the same events in their own unique ways is what that anon is trying to say.like azor ahai is a hero to r'hllor worshippers, who is probably the same person as the last hero, who is also a hero to westerosi first menbut to the yi ti, he's a villain known as the bloodstone emperor. it's obvious it's all about the same person, and that person either ended or started the long night to begin with depending on your perspective, but it's still the same personthe moon cracking probably happened and it having different stories from different cultures about it is probably the same phenomenon, kinda like noah's flood in the bible
>>218204735Nothing, don't listen to retards. There's a single story in the books that there were two moons, and one of them broke for some reason and dragons came from it. This is only one possible story of many possible other dragon origins from the books (like Valyrian sorcery, evolution from firewyrms or people from Shadow Lands) But some retard from YT named David Lightbringer or something made some schizo theories a long time ago that all these myths and legends are 100% true, and people are parroting it ever since, making connections to the Tuf Voyaging (old SF series written by Martin before asoiaf) insisting that this is all related. Those schizos can be fun, but don't take it as a real lore, more like funny headcanons.
>>218204649whats the deal with those marble things?
>>218204800moon boy will eat the white moon like its made of cheese, and end the long night. it is known.
red moon and white moon in oribtred moon destabilizes in orbit for ?? reasons and drifts closer to planetosred moon ripped into a billion pieces by gravity and showers planetos in debrisdebris plume blots out sunlong night
>>218204804Yes, there was probably some Azor Ahai figure or something related to it, because there are many sources like Hyrkoon the Hero, Bloodstone Emperor etc. But moon breaking? There are just one or two tales about that, and both from early books. I repeat, there are multiple reports of snarks and grumkins too.
>>218203974>>218204058The Iron throne is directly tied to the faith of the Seven since Aegon I and Stannis follows a foreign goat fucker religion which invalidates his claim. He's also a dishonorable kinslayer who decided to murder his brother with demonic blood magic like a true coward before he even left dragonstone. He also cheats on his wife. Stannis is a hypocritical cunt who isn't fit to sit on the Iron throne.
>>218204885Tbh theres no way life on the planet would survive something like that, it would be mass extinction event with humanity probably dying out completely.
>>218204755omw rn
>>218204649>>218204204Prince Aerion Targaryen, Prince Daeron Targaryen, Prince Maekar Targaryen, Ser Steffon Fossoway, Ser Willem Wylde, Ser Donnel of Duskendale, and Ser Roland Crakehall are fighting Ser Duncan the Tall, Prince Baelor Targaryen, Ser Lyonel Baratheon, Ser Raymun Fossoway, Ser Humfrey Beesbury, Ser Humfrey Hardyng, and Ser Robyn Rhysling
>>218204543Aerion along with Bloodraven wanted Bitchersteel beheaded after he was captured and brought to Kingslanding in chains.It's also kinda implied Aerion executed Haegon I Blackfyre after he surrendered.
how the fuck did asoiaf turn from fantasy into sci-fi? magical moons? planetary orbits? the moon exploding eclipsed the sun and caused the long night?? WHAT???????why cant magic just exist for the sake of it being just... magic?
>>218204950>Aerion along with Bloodraven wanted Bitchersteel beheaded after he was captured and brought to Kingslanding in chains.Maekar as well.>It's also kinda implied Aerion executed Haegon I Blackfyre after he surrendered.HOLY BASED! I guess his time in the free cities really helped him.
>>218204951GRRM was a scifi writer before he wrote ASOIAF thoughbeit. I'm honestly not surprised if the answers to the hidden mysteries of ASOIAF goes back to his scifi roots.
>>218204951Magic needs rules otherwise is not magic it's just bullshit
>>218203931>Even Stannis doesn't enslave people btwYeah Stannis is so noble guys he just burns people alive instead in offerings to a evil foreign god....
>>218204412This retard thinking he is some lore master, while not even knowing that both Doreah and Salladhor are Lyseni fucking kek.
>>218204951Humans have made correlations between magic and the sky, ever since they realized there is a big hot circle in the sky, that makes stuff warm and bright
>>218204984Other way around, Magic with rules is just science. True magic needs to be unpredictable and mysterious, dangerous to wield. Otherwise it is just Sanderson young adult books.
>>218204998he burns criminals for the one true god
Purchase goose eggs. Show Tanselle goose eggs. Cook goose eggs over an open fire. Give goose eggs a clout in the ear. Put goose eggs into a sandwich. Throw goose eggs at Lord Ashford while he's fucking his sheep.
>>218204885these white moons
>>218204899>The Iron throne is directly tied to the faith of the Seven since [foreigner who commited abomination against faith od seven]Renly was a traitor thus deserved death. If anything it is better to kill him like that than to get hundreds of men killed in battle.>He also cheats on his wife.So does Renly. So did Robert. Robb cheated on his fiance.
So the HOLD THE DOOR shit is not book canon right?
>>218205026whoa...
>>218205076that guy looks like he ATE the door...
On one of the precedent thread, someone said that the last Dunk and Egg novella will be titled Lord CommanderI had no idea that the fat man revealed the titles of all the novellas Does anyone have a source or a link with all the titles
>>218205076It is canon in a way that Hodor name really comes from HOLD THE DOOR but the context could be different.
>>218205092he is a fucking unit and had a heart attack at age 24>>218205094I see, thank you
>>218203150I wish he had got that annoying cunt Sansa killed.
>>218205028When magic is unpredictable it leads to plenty of asspulls and plotholes that's why it needs limits or at least a bit of logic behind to function
>>218204267>>218204412>>218204566Thanks, bro.
>>218203585why yes, this is the perfect fantasy setting for a cavalry based faction
>>218205123Not if it is used sparingly. There's no mages throwing fireballs in the books, nor there is some mages guild. Only few people can use it, and the cost is always great. This is enough.
>>218203832I would be in the free cities whoring and drinking
>>218205076If anything about Bran in S6 onwards is canon, shit is fucked beyond belief.This nigga can literally see the past, present and future, AND warg into humans while doing so, effectively making all character in the universe a sort of hivemind that is ambiguously in the process of discovering itself, removing all real purpose or indivuality from any character.Jaime didn't kill Aerys II, Bran did. Gregor didn't push Sandor into the fire, Bran pushed himself into it. Bran pushed himself out of a window after catching him having sex with himself.What a stupid fucking subplot. Holy shit.
>>218205161>There's no mages throwing fireballs in the booksThere is a mage literally making ladders out of fire...
How intelligent are dragons canonically? What would they actually be capable of without human masters?
>>218203968Pretty sure peasants cant, you have to higher on the medieval hierarchy to enact such traditions
>>218205172Danys dragon was smart enough to destroy the iron throne for the symbolism after jon wasted her
>>218205166We are Bran
>>218205167This is just some illusion trick. You think if he was a real mage he would be doing performance on the streets in this setting? lmao
>>218203832Why do alchemists in Westeros just make magical white phosphorous and nothing else?
>>218205172What is their tax policy? We need to know, George.
>>218204845The previous king (clearly autistic) mandated it so
>>218205196That dragon was stupid, he saw Dany got stabbed by sharp object and thought "the throne did this"
On one of his blogposts from a few years ago GRRM said that how and why dragons bond with some people and not others will be revealed in the last two novels. He also said that Septon Barth actually got most of it rightSo it's basically confirmed that they are artificial beasts created by the Valyrians with blood magic, right ? That was Barth's theoryAnd Targs and other Dragonlords are magical hybride of dragon and human ?
>>218205026>time is a flat circle
>>218205196He was too stupid to kill Jon for doing it
>>218205231They also make steampunk mecha dragonsI swear I also read somewhere a mention of one claiming to change lead into gold just like real world alchemists
>>218205172There is basically nothing humans can do to protect themselves against dragons. Even bolt throwers cant pierce their skins you have to be extremely lucky to hit one of them in the eye or asshole(i guess)Which kinda means if it werent for t*rg blood magic, Dragons would be able to hunt humans whenever they wanted, forcing humans to hide in undeground or in mountains.
>>218205038Criminals like his daughter or other kinsman that pissed him off? How do you cope with the fact Stannis planned to murder Renly before he even left dragonstone. >>218205068>Renly was a traitor thus deserved deathExcept he planned to kill Renly from the start while still on dragonstone long before the parley and he did so in the most dishonorable way possible. It was about the armies he wanted rather than any hurt renly caused. No one liked Stannis.And yes Faith of the Seven is tied to the throne, can't cope that fact away. Stannis loses his rights by following a different religion, one that's not even native to westeros. One that includes evil blood magic. Aegon I was more moral and honourable than Stannis.
>>218205237Viserys or Jaeharys ?
>>218205172No more than a horse. Not yet, anyway.I can see Gurm pulling some shit out of his ass and revealing that dargons actually know common tongue.
>>218205196>the rioters were smart enough to destroy the corporately own businesses for the symbolism of defeating capitalism
>>218205271>steampunk mecha dragonsqrd ?
>>218205026>>218203321literally first five minutes of the series
>>218205246I am not sure if Barth ever said that dragonlords are hybrids. The dragons themselves probably are though, mix of wyverns from Sothorys and firewyrms from Valyria.
>dragons came from the moon!!!!!vs>dragons are actually just manmade bioengineered creatures!!!!!!!!!!Why can't the dragons just be fucking dragons dude >>218203901 >>218205246What's with this gay overexplainy shit that "huurrrr dey have to come from somewhere brooo!!!"
>>218205275You underestimate human creativity. We know dragons like to eat sheep. It would be quite easy to poison them.
>>218205281Renly became a traitor the moment he claimed he had right to the throne.> Aegon I was more moral and honourable than Stannis.Aegon was a cuckold though.
>>218205357how? he had 2 imoutowives!!!
>>218205281>Criminals like his daughterA noble sacrifice>kinsman that pissed him offTraitors to the one true king>RenlyA calculated move. Renly was a lost cause and a failure.
>>218205343People just like to make theories. There was no new books for so long, that many dudes just went insane and started to make theories out of the material we have. They became more outlandish with the years, and now you see the effect. Some of guys in this thread are 100% sure that these things are canon.
>>218203832I can read and write so I could have a comfy role as a scribe. I also know about maths etc but it would be harder to find a practical application.
>>218203321Seizures
>>218204133Just look up David Lightbringer's lore deep dives and theories on YT. Guy is a legit loremaster and a big theorycrafter on the old ASOIAF forums. He has lots of sources from the books that he uses to support his theories.
>>218205448the old man in the tower will destroy this fucking shits
what did you guys think of them putting jazz in the beginning of the last dunk episode
>>218205400i have a feeling that george is prolonging winds solely because of thisthis was how tolkien became the renowned writer that he is today, pretty sure back in the day before the silmarillion was released, (literal) boomer LOTRfags were theorycrafting in their bookclubs like autists ITT do for ASOIAF right now.theorycrafting gets people invested, hype starts to build, and sooner or later you get genuine fanatics. george wants to be remembered in the likes of tolkien. so he's going to let lorefags get as carried away as LOTRfags did back then.maybe 20 years from now, long after george's death all the answers will be revealed in ASOIAF's own silmarillion. and george hopes he can cement his name amongst the greats by then because of this.
>>218205483I think it really worked during the intro but it the song they used for the credits was weird.
>>218205407I'm sure there are some maester mathmaticians. they probably even have a chain link for it. But yeah, i'm sure most book keepers and accountants in this world rely on an abacus more than a hard understanding of the math they are actually using
>>218205483Odd choice but I didn't mind it. Ending with Sixteen Tons playing over the credits was horrible though
>>218205483I liked it but it seems like most people don't. I don't mind contemporary music use as long as the vibe works, but the closing song did not.
>>218205357Renly did actually have a right when his brother is a heretic though. Every King has been coronated by the high septon and the crown in turn is supposed to uphold and defend the faith of the seven. >"Dragonstone's sept had been where Aegon the Conqueror knelt to pray the night before he sailed. That had not saved it from the queen's men. They had overturned the altars, pulled down the statues, and smashed the stained glass with warhammers. Septon Barre could only curse them, but Ser Hubard Rambton led his three sons to the sept to defend their gods. The Rambtons had slain four of the queen's men before the others overwhelmed them. Afterward Guncer Sunglass, mildest and most pious of lords, told Stannis he could no longer support his claim. Now he shared a sweltering cell with the septon and Ser Hubard's two surviving sons. The other lords had not been slow to take the lesson.">>218205383That just paints Stannis as evil. Stannis knew killing Renly was wrong becuase he covered it up. And how was Renly a failure? Unlike Stannis people actually loved and preferred him. Renly was winning unlike Stannis who had to resort to dishonorable kinslaying and murder.
>>218204188The 2 guys in white armor in the right are kingsguards right ?
>>218205483I thought it was some shit in the background or on my phone. Had to pause the show and look around before realizing. Gave me a bit of a kek.I don't really care though, nor did I care about the finale outro. The entire show is heavily reminscent of A Knight's Tale, so anachronisms aren't unwarranted.Kinda wish they played more heavy into it actually. I mean if you're gonna do it, go full boar but instead they kinda waited and jumpscared everybody in the eleventh hour. Strange choice.
>>218205371Rhaenys was cucking him with minstrels. Aenys wasn't his son.
>>218205483Techno next.
>>218205547Renly was a powerhungry opportunist and the only contender in the War of the Five King's to lack any plausibile claims. Martin himself said his attempted usurpation was motivated just by ambition and the Tyrells conviving him he would had been a very rad king
just binged the show it was very good, i was super sad that last episodei dont know i have this thing where i never like watching episodes as i come down and only watch shit after its over, then get sad i missed out all the fun of regular threads
total Rhoynar exterminationMors Martell was a traitor
>>218205348I think dragons are immune to poisons and deseases.
Why do so many anons not like the ending song choice? It ties well into the themes of being a Hedge Knight, and in particular Dunk's broke ass.He literally goes into debt just to enter a tournament he has less than no chance of winning.
>>218205541>I don't mind contemporary music use as long as the vibe worksDubstep dragon battles in HotD3?
>>218205524If George can't finish the books on his own, why doesn't he just tell ChatGPT to do it?
>>218205524I thought so too, but who would publish it? Tolkien had kids, George has none, just his wife, and she is old, too. And you would really need someone who respects source material to make such "Grrmarillion" according to the fatman's vision. I can't think of anyone like that, maybe Elio and Linda.
>>218205627This is not true, dragons died out precisely because they were sick and misshapen by the end. They were poisoned by the maesters.
>>218205586I don't doubt Renly was powerhungry and ambitious but he definitely had a claim since Stannis follows a foreign god as explained in other replies. And Renly was actually overwhelmingly popular making a transition much easier especially with Tyrell support. His rule would certainly better than cersei ruling through her bastards or deeply unpopular Stannis who retardedly wants to ban brothels and sacrifice people to a foreign goat fucker god.
>>218205720I love maesters now.
>>218205736>wants to ban brothelsGood. Keep degeneracy out of Westeros and Renly was only popular because people didn0t know he liked to duck cocks.Stannis had more of a claim than Renly.The Seven are useless too.
The final two books and main story of this series may never be finished, yet we are all so immersed in this world that we argue and discuss it as if it is real history. What keeps us all here with this franchise?
>>218205736Religion was never a established reason to esclude someone from succession. Maegor was openly against everything the Seven stood to and tries to lowkey recreate the old Valyrian Faith. And yet he was initially accepted as king by right of conquest
>>218203974>Even stannis? He’s the most moral and good claimant. If he became king of seven kingdoms whole continent would prosperStannis is Lawful Neutral. Not Lawful Good.
Bloodraven warged into the red moon and exploded it
This is now a Blackfyre thread
>>218205780Stannis was such a goddamn unlikable faggot that Renly gets like 3x the supporters even though skipping over Stannis in succession doesn't have any real legal or cultural precedent
>>218205823no, he's too busy watching Shiera getting her holes resizedI hear she like stormlanders
>>218205720Idk i think i remember watching yt video where it said dragons make t*rgs immune to diseases thats why Dany doesnt get sick but Baelor's son die.
>>218205787Maegor was a usurper, remembered as the worst targ king in history and was facing rebellion at the end. Aegon I was anointed by the Seven at the establishment and Jaehaerys solidified the role the throne in protecting and upholding the faith. You don't get more legitimate than these two all other kings followed this example. This is basic shit to keeping the realm safe and secure.
I need 20 good men, Ser Duncan. The realm...
>>218205854Its not that he's likeable, its that he's the spitting image of Robert when he was youngerthe casting in GOT really messed it up. Renly is supposed to be 1:1 copy (except he's a fag)
>>218205873Nah he's definitely much more likeable than Stannis lmao.
>>218205873>Its not that he's likeableNo, it's that Stannis is unlikable. People DON'T want Stannis more than they specifically want Renly.
>>218205595Yeah this is the first show i’ve watched on a weekly basis in a long time. It sort of sucks not just waiting but then you miss all the shitposting
>>218205840>This is now a Blackfyre threadshoo shoo, go back to the tyrash
>>218205854>>218205873Renly gets more supporters because Robert gave him Storms end, meaning the storm lords are loyal to him, not StannisAnd the Tyrells want Margaery on the throne, and Stannis is already married. So basically Renly got served 2 kingdoms on a platter while Stannis had to start with a base line support of valyrian crabbers and negros (thanks to hotd canon)Of course Renly was more politically savy and likeable, this no doubt helped him sway the storm lords to follow him, but it wasn't just that, he had the perfect position to usurp Stannis
>>218205823I know you're joking, but destroying the red moon is only logical for someone trying to play a long con. Leaving the moon intact would allow more people to access magic, and meddle with the plan. But if he destroys it in a way that makes magical comets that still orbit and come back every now and then, it creates smaller windows of magic that can be used by fewer people. But people who know about the comets, and when they will arrive, can have all their pieces already set up in place, and waiting for the trigger
>>218205926https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1771972051533719.mp4back to your cuckchair bloodcraven
>>218205953Daemon II looking zesty
>>218205953MY KING
>>218205949Why didn't Robert give Storm's End to Stannis after he had male heirs anyways? I can understand him remaining the lord of Dragonstone while he's the heir, but after that he should have taken up his position as Lord Paramount of the stormlands.
>>218205854Stormlords weee bound to obey Renly as their lawful liege tho: exactly like Stannis decided his duty to Robert was above his duty to Aerys
>>218205873>picSo Robert and Renly both look like Ronn Moss
>>218205854>>218205873>>218205949Both Stannis and Renly are claimants. Renly didn’t usurp anyone. Renly had more support for his claim and pressed it.
>>218205926Geez Bloodraven was so mean here even though it's war. He should have just let the treasonous usurper Daemon Blackfyre and his sons live so they could go and butcher King Daeron and all his more legitimate sons and grandsons huh /s
>>218206005Plot. Same reason why duty obsessed Stannis doesn’t have a male heir.
>>218205926>tyrashkek
>>218206005Because Stannis' story doesn't work if he has Storm's End. He's the King that struggles for the throne and wins, the iron tempered into steel
shhh anons keep it the fuck downGwin is sleeping
Renly and Stannis should have both agreed to just set aside the matter of succession until the war was over, and then handle their claims then. They would've actually won, and in a war like that there's a decent chance one of them would have just died anyways, making it irrelevant.
>>218205953What is this meme that Bloodraven was a cuck. Bittersteel literally started a rebellion that got his brother and his nephews killed because Shiera rejected him. At least Bloodraven let it go to become a dark wizard or whatever. She even becomes his acolyte.
>>218205898>>218205910>>218206025/GOT/ is a pro-Stannis general: being your queer bitching about your beloved gay usurper somewhere else, like Reddit
Why do the Seven seem artificial? >one god representing seven human archetypes
>>218205953I have been browsing 4chan for years at this point and I am embarrassed to even ask, but how do you link mp4s with /wsg/?When a board doesn't allow catbox I just give up on it
>>218206005Stannis was a second son who stood to inherit nothing by rights. Robert could have given Storms End or Dragonstone to his own sons. Stannis was a ungrateful bitch about Dragonstone. He's not entiled to Storms End whatsoever.
>>218206067thrusting my lance at her maidenhead
>>218206071cry more bitch
>>218206025Renly is traitor who got traitor death. None of Stormlanders or Reachmen had to die for his treasonous claim, only he had to die and so he did
>>218206067Shes 16 you fucking paedophile. Old 4chan would had doxxed the fuck of your IP. You had been warned.
>>218206069Renly didn’t need Stannis. He would’ve curb stomped everyone with the Stormlands-Reach alliance.
>>218206070Bloodraven tried multiple times to get Shieras hand in marriage and he was rejected everytime and kept seething about it while she was known to sleep with many others.The meme is that he's watching her fuck others while he's stuck in his tree cuckchair
>>218206071Book Stannis is so cool
>>218206070>Bloodraven let it gokeeeeeeeeeeeeek
>>218206093Go cry for you LGBT icon that got penetrated in a way that for once, he didnt quite liked
>>218206071Saying the obvious, that Stannis is unlikeable, doesn't mean i don't recognize his legitimate claimStannis himself is painfully aware of how much people prefer Renly, including Robert, and still supports Stannis.
>>218206071Stannis is going to lose to the Boltons and sacrifice his daughter
>>218206072>representing seven human archetypesmore like seven human values represented through archetypes
>>218206095nigger did I say I want to fuck her?why do you see a sleeping girl and immediatly think about fucking her anon?
>>218206059>He's the King that struggles for the throne and wins, the iron tempered into steelHe's very clearly not going to win though, even in the books
Market not giving his permission and ring is a huge difference. Wonder if they’ll fuck up the next season but needless fighting and hunting dunk
>>218206102Well why didn't he then
>>218206095Legal in my country
>>218205951>dany's dragons hatch when the red comet arrives>melissandre only started to go crazy with her shadow assassins under the magical guise of the red cometSo the red comet is just Sozhin's Comet from Avatar the Last Airbender?
>>218206095>Old 4chanhad a loli board
>>218205483Bad and out of place.
>>218206094The Reachmen didn’t die. They defected to the Lannisters and won. A lot of the Stormlanders sat the war out after Renly died. Then Stannis gets wildfired.
>>218205483I dont mind it
>>218206129Stannis is going to stop the Other and become night king because it’s his tudy to save the realm
>>218206142it's just a fragment of the cracked/exploded Bloodmoon where all fire magic and fire shadows draw its power frombut yes, your logic is correct
>>218206138because Stannis shadow babied him
>>218206071It's obvious Stannis will be the the death of House Baratheon. He shoots mostly blanks and could only manage one daughter who he will burn. Edric Storm is all we're left with.
>>218206174Gendry is still around
>>218206126>>218206129>Not realizing Martin is gonna subvert our expectations by having Stannis survive the whole Winter
>>218206174Edric Storm is going to be a Daenerys victim. Gendry will be Lord of Storm’s End at the end, and it also explains how Bran becomes king.
>>218206174Edric is clearly getting the treatment Gendry got in GOT: legittimized, and surrounded by Stannermen he will ensure Stannis will be Remember as a Hero and savior of the world
>>218206178Random unkown peasant bastards generally don't get legitimised and inherit only recognised ones like Edric with an actual bastard name.
>>218206203Stannis literally tried to sacrifice Edric
>>218206095you realize 14 year olds have kids in asoiaf
>>218206203Why do you think GRRM made up Gendry? Edric existed to temp Stannis with kings blood and nothing else. Gendry is carbon copy of Bobby B
>>218206205Yes, that’s why Gendry will carry on the Baratheons, because if Edric was legitimised and Lord of Storm’s End he would become king. Peasant Gendry on the other hand, not so much.
>>218206095most of the world has 16 as age of consent, don't apply your amerilard shit to my life
>>218206214For the greater good: the King's Men are with Edric on Lys to ensure he realized its all Melisandre's fault
>>218203585iirc they're the same just seen from different angles but they fucked up because it's the same road
>>218206235Gendry exist as a reincarnation of Bobby B that actually will got what Bobby wanted: a life of wandering adventures, and the love of a wild Stark she-wolf (Arya). There are no in-universe proofs that can convince the stormlords hes actually a son of Bobby, and being a unrecognized bastard he dosent have any right of legittimation anyway, unlike Edric
In this general, Stannis is a hero. End of story!
>>218206295For our king, Stannis Baratheon!
>>218205552Yes, you think they left the guy that lanced him through home?
>>218203813I like the implication that later on he's the one who'll kill Maegar during Peake's Rise.
she deserved more screen time
Bran being king at the end is such a terrible ending unless it's something subversive where Bloodraven stole his body and rules for 1,000 years through various hosts. I'm sure George has a better way there in mind than what D&D did but I can't see it.
>>218206342clearly the superior whore. I was so sad when she died
If CuckRaven has really been pulling all the strings then why isn't House Bracken destroyed.
>>218206349Bran and Bloodraven become eternal gay emperors of Westeros
>>218203253BENEATH THE GOLD HONEYTHE BITTER STING
>>218206349there is no good way to make it happenBran is only involved in science-fantasy mysticism, has nothing to do with realpolitik and has zero thematic ties to the throne or the kingdom or the peoplebesides he won't be "Bran the broken" or whatever the hell GRRM intended, he'll be an all-seeing surveillance machine or psyhic dictator which just feels weirdBran should end up being some kind of watchful guardian at the north of the kingdom or a Bloodraven-like figure (heh) that assists the king behind the shadows
>>218206128I haven't seen sexier tongue desu
>>218204188>Beesburys confirmed to litterally hosting bees nests within their bodies like Shino AburameFucking BASED
>Alicent could not even be trusted around her granddaughter; once when she was allowed to share a meal with the little queen, she terrified Jaehaera by suggesting she slit Aegon's throat while he was sleepingBased Alicent never surrendered
>>218206306Probably. It is Westeros, shit like this happens. They probably had to come and be like "no hard feelings, right?"
>>218206519Cool quote and yeah, but why are you attaching a picture of Alicunt Dyketower from the lesbian show? She has nothing in common with Alicent Hightower.
>mfw trying to rewatch hotd season 2
>>218206349it wouldnt be that bad if he played bigger part in the whole finale but he was just irrelevantif it was some kind of Muah Dib situation where raven made him all powerful and entire book was just Bran doing God Emperor shit that would make sense, but the problem is that he's just a random cripple in the narrativeJon and Dany take up 90% of screentime and they are the main characters so anyone other than them would be dumb, why the fuck spend so much time on these 2 compared to everyone else? Bran had the least screentime of all main characters and the final season was short as fuck so he doesnt feel important at all why would a character whose not on the show win "the game of thrones"
>>218206519Martin was a dumbass with his AWOIAF that retconned Jahaera NOT being Daeron I's mother. He made the whole Blackfyre Rebellion 60 years later much lamer
>>218206544She’s not a lesbian she hasn’t done anything yet except with men
>>218206572The dyke producer of HOTD confirmed that her fanfictional Alicent is a repressed lesbian
>>218206559I don’t think that was a retcon. Daeron I’s mother was always marked down as a Velaryon.
>>218206396Because besides being an omnipresent magic being, he’s still a blackwood and this means he’s useless
>>218206655Kekked.
>>218206626We didnt get the full dynastic tree utile AWOIAF: but we knew from the books that originally Daeron I was named in memory of Daeron the Daring and other hints that quite goes against what later Martin wrote about the Dance (like Rhaenyra being originally only 1-2 years older than Aegon II)
>>218205284This is foreshadowed by the scene where Danny buys the unsullied
>>218206342she got mogged into oblivion
>>218206722no.
>>218206328Doubt it, he ended up hating those niggers after what they did to him at Whitewalls. The actual implication is that he'll be part of Egg's Kingsguard after Dunk becomes Lord Commander
>>218206771If he went to Peake after the tourney then it could still happen
>>218206767I can't wait for her to say the line again while Mysaria looks smug from a corner (she has an even dumber idea)
>>218206743yes
>>218205483it was the sound equivalent of casting niggers
>>218203793Preston is that you?
>>218206655cuckraven
Cuckoldry is actually a pretty based fetish ngl
>>218206824
>>218205196Then literally ten minutes later a new king is named, making that symbolism D&D thought was probably the most clever shit ever mean absolutely nothing.
>>218206922Preston is that you?
>>218206949The dragon understood the need for a change but westeros restarted the cycle.
>>218206556Let’s not forget that Bran was removed from a season because the writers didn’t know what to do with him.
>>218206922Easy now brynden
Ser Duncan the tall.... four pages for Ser Duncan.He must have been quite the man.
>>218206958Oh Yeah, sure he did. It totally wasn’t Jon having plot armor.
this is what george looked like when he came up with the tullys being named after muppets
>>218203253GODS I AM OWED HALAENA SISTER-WIFE
pov you won the tourny and requested maidenhead
>>218207003So they say
>>218204077He can't be in our house anymore
>>218207003>four pages for Ser Duncan. He must have been quite the man
>>218207062House? He's gotta GO.
>>218207038ser jaime lannister. someone must have forgotten to write down all your deeds
>>218207105penistree taught him well
>>218207142he can't be in our small council no more. that much i do know
the thread stretcher...
>>218207144There's still time
new bread>>218207212>>218207212>>218207212>>218207212>>218207212
>>218206767kek
>>218207105dad bod
>>218203410Wasnt that the reason be died?Blunt force ti head and he was dead
>>218207105wtf i'm gay now
>>218203190Where's Bessie and her magnificent tits?
