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sansa!
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>>218365285
TAOOBA!
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>>218365305
My god look at those milkers bouncing around. Aegon DIDN'T want to fuck this? What's wrong with him?
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>Cat tells him that Littlefinger told her the assassin's dagger belonged to Tyrion
>doesn't immediately torture/imprison/execute Littlefinger as soon as he gets back to King's Landing
Was he retarded?
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>>218365342
useful idiot
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>ay imma take yo shit mah lawd
Wat do, /tv/?
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>>218365397
>the stinky thief character
>"let's make him black!"
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>>218365397
>>218365435
How will they "redeem" ser penis the BROWN's character to make it seem like he's the most noble knight who ever lived and make Dunk look like a chump by comparison? How many forced scenes of him x Rohanne wil they add? How many scenes of him cucking Sam Stoops will they add as well?
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>>218365435
based
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>>218365342
he doesn't know the scope of Littlefinger's influence and knows he's too useful still. Also in the books he's not seen as some cartoonishly evil schemer like in the show
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>>218365305
Just when I think this show can’t have more “literally me characters” they put like two dozen of then onscreen at once
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>>218365642
I do enjoy that basically every time we've seen King's Landing smallfolk they're depicted as violent animals ready to riot at the drop of a hat.
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>>218365742
The best is yet to come
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>>218365761
I know they're probably going to fuck it up, but I think this is the last thing I'm excited to see in HOTD
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>That stings!!
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Is fire and blood worth reading? It’s three feet to my left. I got 100 pages in and stopped.
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>>218365799
that body does not match that face at all
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>>218365801
RIGHT IN THE BEE HIVES
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>>218365817
No. George phoned it in and it shows.
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>>218365799
why does she look like that
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>>218365799
It's no wonder Renly never got it up really
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>>218365305
>>218365642
>>218365742
I'm trying to remember why they're rioting. They're mad because they have to eat fish or something?
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>George R.R. Martin
>George Lucas
>George Orwell
>George A. Romero
>George of the Jungle
why are Georges so goated?
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>>218365817
Not very good. Get the world of ice and fire instead
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>>218365871
Rhaenyra's forces are blockading King's Landing leading to food shortages. Mysaria has also been spreading rumours on behalf of the Blacks that the Greens are enjoying lavish feasts inside the Red Keep.

tl;dr - food riot
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>>218365871
>All hail the queen of fishes
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When are we getting a faithful fire and blood adaptation
Also holy shit the Harrenhal in the show and the book are so different
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>>218365936
Why is mysaria team black again. If I recall correctly she gets mad at daemon for something and then shows up later randomly loyal to rhaenyra
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>>218365991
>faithful fire and blood adaptation
George would have to drop the unreliable narrator gimmick and lay out the facts first
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>>218365995
I think the show implied it’s because she wants to fuck rhaenyra or something
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>>218365995
In the books she gets pregnant with Daemon's kid and Viserys banishes that bitch back to Lys where she miscarries. She's not angry with Daemon.

In the show though? Writer's self insert.
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>>218365936
Did the writers really think the majority of KL's food came by sea? What do they think the King's Road is for?
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>>218366079
>What do they think
HOTD writers are not in the habit of doing that.
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AARRGH!
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Mario Nahaaris
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>>218365285
Does anyone have the pic of

>stop raping, ser
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>>218365285
luke is icsh
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GIDDY UP NOW
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>>218366465
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>>218366495
Would this work?
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>>218366504
Yes, Dunk is gigantic.
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>>218366504
No I would finish raping you
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>>218365300
who will molest sansa stark in winds of winter?
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>>218365742
>>218365871
sers those were peaceful protests
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>>218366523
Me, with alittle luck
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>>218366523
bigtoe
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>>218366509
Dunkin' the Riverlands during the War of the five Kings
Wat happens
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what if jaime was pronounced hi-meh instead of jay-mii?
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>>218366596
The Mountain kills Dunk because The Mountain is like a full foot taller than him and at least thrice as strong.
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>>218366608
Retarded power scaling shit in the WOT5K fr
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>>218366618
I mean, even Greatjon Umber is taller and stronger than Dunk.
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>>218366608
the mountain wasnt trained by ser arlan THO
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>>218366606
i used to work as a cashier, we got a new mexican guy named jaime that was pronounced hi-may
i kept asking "his name is hymen???" because this one bitch pronounced it that way. took me a long time to realize it was jaime, i thought i had taken crazy pills or something
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>>218365342
It's a big plothole in the books. When Tyrion comes to KL, as new hand and with a personal guard of maintain clan warriors, he should have immediately arrested Littlefinger.

But I guess nothing to do with the catspaw makes any sense whatsoever.
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>>218365574
As many as it jewishly takes.
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>>218366629
Ser Arlan only mogs The Mountain in cock size.
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>>218365342
>here's that golden blonde family i was telling you about
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>>218365574
They will whitewash Bennis to have him be black.

The old white man Ser Eustace will be racist against Bennis. Show Bennis will be down on his luck, and genuinely poor, because he's discriminated against. In contrast to show Dunk, who inexplicably has no money problems and can just refuse the gift of a horse. Dunk will realize his white priviledge and tell Bennis that he was right in taking his rightful payment.
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why did ser arlan have 3 horses?
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>>218365342
Yes lol George thinks he's smart but a character is only as smart as the author
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>>218366688
He probably won some of them in tourneys.
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>>218366688
Why don’t you? What do you have just two? One? Or are you saying you have no horses at all?
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>>218365742
>violent animals ready to riot at the drop of a hat
Which is why Dany's burning of KL with her dragon was justified
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>>218366688
why did he make dunk walk instead of allowing him a horse? dunk should've left him, what a tard
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>>218366079
Without trucks or trains it is very hard and inefficient to transport bulk goods (like grain) over land. Large cities can not be fed by their own hinterland and need to be supplied by shipping (coastal or riverine).

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Cura_annonae

https://www.medievalists.net/2014/05/medieval-london-got-fish/

Roads were mostly build to move armies.
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>>218366688
in the books they mention how knights have 1 horse to travel distances and another to use in combat.
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>>218366790
>implying most are rich enough to have 2 bugattis
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>>218366688
A knight needs at minimum three horses to work:

>A specially bred and trained warhorse that's only for battle. You do not ride on it all day to not tire it out.
>A normal riding horse for travelling.
>A pack horse to carry all your stuff.

Ideally you also want a riding horse for your squire. But Arlan was poor, so Dunk had to ride the pack horse.
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>>218366777
>what is the blackwater rush
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>>218366777
The Roseroad exists specifically to move grain from the Reach to King's Landing.
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>>218366799
>2 bugattis
In the 2 horse scenario, it would be more like having 1 jeep/hummer for use in combat and a Toyota Hybrid/Prius to cover distance.
At the peak of the Mongolian empire, their warriors had an average of 6 horses each.
With their army of 50.000 soldiers. They had a peak of around 300.000 horses
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>>218366987
In an army you kinda need more horses because you have a fuckton of supplies to move as well. Tents, food, weapons, tools etc.
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>>218366987
50.0 soldiers is not an army, moron.
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>>218367008
a single knight also has a fair bit to move even a poor one, a simple tent like raymund had at the end is heavy af compared to today, canvas and wood is not light, especially if the canvas gets wet, that doesn't even begin to cover armor food water and other supplies. you 100% need a pack horse if you are a wandering knight
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Ywnbal
(You will never be a logistician)
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>>218367035
it is if they are good men
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>>218367035
he obviously meant 50,000 u tard
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Why is season 1 so kino? Based Varys replying
>not today
after ned asks him to slit his throat right after dario got iced, what foreshadowing that he will go back across the sea

Bravo martin
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>>218367089
Kill yourself faggot scum
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>>218366202
its been years but that dress is still amazing
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>>218366688
Most knights in history had multiple horses because they were meant for different stuff
a war horse wasnt the same as a horse meant for carrying stuff.
They'd also have sprinter horses that they would use to retreat. Tourney horses etc.
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>>218367008
Mongolians used horses more as status symbol. More horses you owned, the higher your position.
The main reason they had a large amount of horses for each soldier was to keep switching between mounts when a horse would fatigue so they could keep riding.
The mongols didn't have much supplies. They mainly survived by drinking their horse's milk and eating their meat, by drying in the sun or under their saddles creating jerky, they could eat while they were riding.
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>>218366777
I know George based a lot of stuff on history and I appreciate you citing sources but it doesn't fit the bill. Westoros is gigantic resource/food rich continent. There's food being grown everywhere, not just the Reach. And as others have pointed out there's major roads and rivers to transport all of it. You really think KL has a food shortage after not getting exports from Braavos, Pentos and Tyrosh? Come on, man.
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>>218367161
I'm not a big Mongolian history buff but didn't they only use the mount switching thing for running messages across the empire?
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The Mongols...what ever happened there?
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>>218367384
They did, but most large scale empires (romans/chinese) used that way of passing along messages.
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Jorah the Andal, I heard what you did. Choose any horse you wish, it is yours. I make this gift to you
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>>218367035
>>218367061
. is for separating hundreds , is for decimals
50.000.000,34 is 50 000 000,34 while 50,000,000.34 would be 50
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>>218367686
>Jorah the Andal
That moniker must sting. Jorah is a first man after all. Imagine the president of mongolia had a press conferenc with trump and called him our friend "Trump the Negro" lol.
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>>218365742
The insurrectionists that stormed the red keep threatened the very democracy of the seven kingdoms, they should be out to death immediately
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>>218367776
For all Essosi, everyone in Westeros Is a generic Andal. Its not different from the average american call everyone in East Asia a chinese
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>>218367703
We get it dude you’re ESL
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Whelp, Dunkbros
It was good while it lasted.
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>>218367884
you really picked the wrong place to rage bait retard. you don't have any idea what bennis is do you?
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>>218367884
Looked up this character ser Bennis and literally everything he does in the books is nigger coded
>The brown knight stole all the valuable items at the tower and fled.
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Euron
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>>218367884
I may be in the minority here, but I think this guy is a superb choice for the role. If he puts in even half the work he did on Alien: Earth for Ser Bennis, his interplay with and comparison to Claffey's Ser Duncan should be exceptional.
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>>218368034
he played a great villain in alien earth so sure he could to well here
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>>218367884
when you think about it refusing to cast a black man as Ser Bennis even if he was the best at audition is racist. you are judging him by the colour of his skin and not his abilities as an actor.
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>>218367491
Not nearly as effective as the Mongols did, though, due to the kind of horses they used. The Mongolian Steppe horse breed can subsist on forage alone, whereas the breeds in Europe, China, and Arabia weren't. Of course, this trait came to bite the Mongols in the ass once they went further west than the Hungarian plain, but for endurance and subsistence so long as there was forage Mongolian horses could outrange nearly any other breed.
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>>218365342
>Catspaw plot literally goes nowhere and is forgotten
George is hack writer, unless it turns out time travelling Bran was the one to make a hit on himself it makes absolutely no sense
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>>218366608
Why does GRRM keep writing space marine characters? Isn't Dunk already something like 6'11"?
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>>218368100
he is bad with numbers
it's also why the wall is 700 ft tall and house Stark, Lannister, and such are like 8000 years old.
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>>218368093
nothing about daggerwatch makes sense even if bran did setup his own assassination there are too many moving pieces that just don't make any sense
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>>218366608
>Man who can’t even kill Beric Dondarrion right having a chance against the literal embodiment of the Seven.
The state of you.
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>>218368100
Even the Black Library would have fired him by now if he dragged his heels on publication deadlines the way he has
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>>218368100
George doesn’t understand: seasons, military campaign timelines, mongols, how effective dwarfs are in fighting, how strong are 14 yo slender girls, ages, heights…I don’t know what George knows besides food and whores
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>>218368110
All moving pieces were setup by Bloodraven, duh
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>>218368119
but he does know where whores go
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>>218368129
this shit gives me a headache, you can't just handwave everything with
>bloodraven did it
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>>218368119
>the bran feast chapter where half of the word count is just him describing foods
Fat fuck
He should write more mercy tho
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>>218368119
he knows a lot about underage girls
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She will be the last one standing
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>>218368143
I love that chapter tbqhwy and no i'm not a fatfuck, if anything I should gain weight but the feast at winterfell is perfect food porn, bran being petty and sending the shit cuts to the frey boys, trying to be nice and sending some good cuts to the others etc. its masterful, hell give me a few minutes and I'll post it if anyone wants a story time
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>>218368163
In the brothel of course
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>>218368144
island status?
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>>218368034
>>218368067
Alien Earth was dogshit and so was he
Go back
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>>218368107
>the wall seems too tall
>uh george we made it 1//2 the size you described, 700 ft is insane
>oh
lmao gurm really doesn't understand math at all
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>>218368143
> He should write more mercy tho
George said that her moon blood is coming soon
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>>218368143
>He should write more mercy tho
based
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>>218368204
lmao nope it was great fun, keep seething, see you in the AE general, where you will continue to seethe, Mr. Strawberry says, 'fuck off'
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I'm going to post the feast at winterfell unless anyone would like to dissuade me, 10mins and counting
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>>218368254
(And yes, I am trans!)
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>>218368272
dew it, im hungry
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>>218368272
Start the fucking feast of winter before I piss myself
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>>218368277
s2 is coming and I will laugh my ass off at your unending seethe. Mr strawberry says deal with it faggot
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>>218368254
>>218368277
YWNBAW
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>>218368250
Who is seeding her?
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never forget
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>>218368254
>>218368277
>>218368301
Who the fuck is mr strawberry?
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Sandor would piss and shit if he ever saw Dunk
Or read about him
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>>218368013
He's going to hecking summon a giant squid or something, ok????
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Aegon will, thinking he has sick aura like a Baratheon, go down south the to face Euron only to get his fleet and army ass blasted, he will become like Reek to the Ironborn and be tied to the Silence’s brow.
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>>218368013
Meme doesn't work, book Euron is cool as fuck.
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>Dancer was draped in bardings of snowy white wool emblazoned with the grey direwolf of House Stark, while Bran wore grey breeches and white doublet, his sleeves and collar trimmed with vair. Over his heart was his wolf’s-head brooch of silver and polished jet. He would sooner have had Summer than a silver wolf on his breast, but Ser Rodrik had been unyielding.

>The low stone steps balked Dancer only for a moment. When Bran urged her on, she took them easily. Beyond the wide oak-and-iron doors, eight long rows of trestle tables filled Winterfell’s Great Hall, four on each side of the center aisle. Men crowded shoulder to shoulder on the benches. “Stark!” they called as Bran trotted past, rising to their feet. “Winterfell! Winterfell!

>He was old enough to know that it was not truly him
they shouted for—it was the harvest they cheered, it was Robb and his victories, it was his lord father and his grandfather and all the Starks going back eight thousand years. Still, it made him swell with pride. For so long as
it took him to ride the length of that hall he forgot that he was broken. Yet when he reached the dais, with every eye upon him, Osha and Hodor undid his straps and buckles, lifted him off Dancer’s back, and carried him to the high seat of his fathers.

skipping ahead a bit here, in short bran is seated on the high place to his right is rickon to his left is ser rodrick, they cheer for the king in the north.

>Bran raised his voice. He bid them welcome in the name of his brother, the King in the North, and asked them to thank the gods old and new for Robb’s victories and the bounty of the harvest. “May there be a hundred more,” he finished, raising his father’s silver goblet.

>“A hundred more!”
Pewter tankards, clay cups, and iron-banded drinking horns clashed together. Bran’s wine was sweetened with honey and fragrant with cinnamon and cloves, but stronger than he was used to.
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>>218368373
He wargs into the dusky woman to get fucked by his brother.
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>>218368314
samwell
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>>218365801
Wtf George.
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>>218368314
Doubt anyone in Braavos, maybe he will write one attempted rape to scare reader
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>>218368302
hell no what an awful thought.
>>218368333
if you bothered watching the show you are apparently so upset about you'd know, you stupid faggot
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>>218368330
im a newfag, is egg right?
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>>218368330
>Stormlands
>Dorne
>Westerlands
>The Reach
>The North
>Mountain and Vale
>Isles and Rivers
I dunno that is just 7
>muh riverlands and crown lands
not kingdoms, just administrative divisions.
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>>218366636
Then he sends those loyal warriors away and relies on ser Upsettling As Fuck and a literal child to watch his back in the battle. Tbqh he deserved his downfall.
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>>218368398
no, the Riverlands and the Crownlands are not kingdoms.
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>>218368376
>He could feel its hot snaky fingers wriggling through his chest as he swallowed. By the time he set down the goblet, his head was swimming.
>“You did well, Bran,” Ser Rodrik told him. “Lord Eddard would have been most proud.” Down the table, Maester Luwin nodded his agreement as the servers began to carry in the food.

The FOOD, and so it begins...
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>>218368401
>just administrative divisions
VERY >>218368403
>ser Upsettling As Fuck
*Unsettling i mean.
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>>218368412
then why does he call the them kingdoms? is he stupid?
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>>218368418
Ffs
>VERY big administrative divisions
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>>218368419
He’s midwit
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>>218368413
>Such food Bran had never seen; course after course after course, so much that he could not manage more than a bite or two of each dish. There were great joints of aurochs roasted with leeks, venison pies chunky with carrots, bacon, and mushrooms, mutton chops sauced in honey and cloves, savory duck, peppered boar, goose, skewers of pigeon and capon, beef-and-barley stew, cold fruit soup. Lord Wyman had brought twenty casks of fish from White Harbor packed in salt and seaweed; whitefish and winkles, crabs and mussels, clams, herring, cod, salmon, lobster and lampreys. There was black bread and honeycakes and oaten biscuits; there were turnips and pease and beets, beans and squash and huge red onions; there were baked apples and berry tarts and pears poached in strongwine. Wheels of white cheese were set at every table, above and below the salt, and flagons of hot spice wine and chilled autumn ale were passed up and down the tables.

>Lord Wyman’s musicians played bravely and well, but harp and fiddle and horn were soon drowned beneath a tide of talk and laughter, the clash of cup and plate, and the snarling of hounds fighting for table scraps. The singer sang good songs, “Iron Lances” and “The Burning of the Ships” and “The Bear and the Maiden Fair,” but only Hodor seemed to be listening. He stood beside the piper, hopping from one foot to the other.

>The noise swelled to a steady rumbling roar, a great heady stew of sound. Ser Rodrik talked with Maester Luwin above Beth’s curly head, while Rickon screamed happily at the Walders. Bran had not wanted the Freys at the high table, but the maester reminded him that they would soon be kin. Robb was to marry one of their aunts, and Arya one of their uncles. “She never will,” Bran said, “not Arya,” but Maester Luwin was unyielding, so there they were beside Rickon.
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>>218368419
Show writers thought they were being smart. In reality, Egg would know they're not considered kingdoms.
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>>218368432
>>The serving men brought every dish to Bran first, that he might take the lord’s portion if he chose. By the time they reached the ducks, he could eat no more. After that he nodded approval at each course in turn, and waved it away. If the dish smelled especially choice, he would send it to one of the lords on the dais, a gesture of friendship and favor that Maester Luwin told him he must make. He sent some salmon down to poor sad Lady Hornwood, the boar to the boisterous Umbers, a dish of goose-in-berries to Cley Cerwyn, and a huge lobster to Joseth the master of horse, who was neither lord nor guest, but had seen to Dancer’s training and made it possible for Bran to ride. He sent sweets to Hodor and Old Nan as well, for no reason but he loved them. Ser Rodrik reminded him to send something to his foster
brothers, so he sent Little Walder some boiled beets and Big Walder the buttered turnips.

lmao fucking freys

>On the benches below, Winterfell men mixed with smallfolk from the winter town, friends from the nearer holdfasts, and the escorts of their lordly guests. Some faces Bran had never seen before, others he knew as well as his own, yet they all seemed equally foreign to him. He watched them as from a distance, as if he still sat in the window of his bedchamber, looking down on the yard below, seeing everything yet a part of nothing.

>Osha moved among the tables, pouring ale. One of Leobald Tallhart’s men slid a hand up under her skirts and she broke the flagon over his head, to roars of laughter. Yet Mikken had his hand down some woman’s bodice, and she seemed not to mind. Bran watched Farlen make his red bitch beg for bones and smiled at Old Nan plucking at the crust of a hot pie with wrinkled fingers.
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>>218368240
Moonblood was cancelled after the unaired pilot
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>>218366760
Those were mostly refugees. And burning people alive is never justified. Well, almost.
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>>218368432
> Robb was to marry one of their aunts, and Arya one of their uncles.
Remind me why someone even defends Catelyn when she sold Arya to Freys after Robb was already promised to marry Frey. This is worst trade deal in history of trade deals
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>>218368449
>On the dais, Lord Wyman attacked a steaming plate of lampreys as if they were an enemy host. He was so fat that Ser Rodrik had commanded that a special wide chair be built for him to sit in, but he laughed loud and often, and Bran thought he liked him. Poor wan Lady Hornwood sat beside him, her face a stony mask as she picked listlessly at her food. At the opposite end of the high table, Hothen and Mors were playing a drinking game, slamming their horns together as hard as knights meeting in joust.

>It is too hot here, and too noisy, and they are all getting drunk.
Bran itched under his grey and white woolens, and suddenly he wished he were anywhere but here. It is cool in the godswood now. Steam is rising off the hot pools, and the red leaves of the weirwood are rustling. The smells are richer than here, and before long the moon will rise and my brother will sing to it.

>“Bran?” Ser Rodrik said. “You do not eat.”
>The waking dream had been so vivid, for a moment Bran had not known where he was. “I’ll have more later,” he said. “My belly’s full to bursting.”
>The old knight’s white mustache was pink with wine. “You have done well, Bran. Here, and at the audiences.
>You will be an especial fine lord one day, I think.”

okay I think thats all for now, it gets into warg sendings and such like from here on, in short there was a lot of food.
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>>218368471
That's just usual westerosi politiks at work. But yeah, quite a dick move.
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>>218368449
Is Old Nan still alive?
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>>218368493
Starks are much higher in pecking order than Freys. The fact that they got Robb marriage for crossing a bloody river should be enough. Looks like humiliation ritual
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>>218368471
If Walder Frey had been a bit more stubborn, Catelyn would have given him Winterfell and agreed to marry him. This is the strength of Tully's greatest negotiator.
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>>218368093
>>218368110
Agreed. I'm too lazy to write an essay about it, but nothing about the castspaw makes any sense in any way. The explanation we got for it makes no sense, but neither would any other culprit, it makes no sense as a normal assassination, and it makes no sense as a trick to cause war. Everything about it hinges on paying a random lowlife to kill a noble, by paying him upfront with an insanely valuable and easily trackable, hardly fence-able item.
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>>218368500
probably not, but there is no "on screen death" as far as I'm aware
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>>218368471
>>218368527
The Tully's were always the retarded child of the Stark-Tully-Arryn-Baratheon alliance.
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>>218368432
Why is Bran such dick to Freys?
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>>218368477
>Bran thought he liked him
if nothing else it was a crime dabid never had manderly, he is such a big fat bro
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>>218368570
They didn’t even need any extra budget, just let George play him
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>>218368561
Little/Big Walder are dickheads.
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>>218368471
It’s to show how useless and stupid she is, if she had trusted Jon and not drove him away he would have gotten a great deal. Jon is a great negotiator.
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>>218368561
cause fuck em, they started it
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>>218368561
>Why is Bran such dick to [massive insufferable dickheads]?
bran is serving justice, as all true lords must
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>>218368581
little walder (actually the big one) is decent, big walder (the little one) is a cunt
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>>218368561
They're Freys.
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So what the fuck happened at Hardhome?
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>>218368614
Probably same shit as in show minus John Hardhome beating Other with longclaw
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>>218368579
he is Gérard Depardieu ffs, little fatfuck gurm could never play Manderly
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>>218368614
Volcano
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>>218368419
he's being a cheeky little shit
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Who's house is the oldest in Westeros
>>218368471
Classic Cat retardation
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>>218368559
Edmure is good to small folk
Blackfish is good too
Problem is women
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Should our Alienfu be cast as Rhaenys in the GOT movie?
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>>218368718
Stark, Hightower, Dayne maybe Durrandons too
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>>218367884
yeah. Why did they cast a 5'7 girl as a 4'11 character and she doesn't have the freckles.
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>>218368598

They objectively didn't, Cat started a war which they got dragged into without consent
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>>218368800
no you fool little walder and big walder started the feud between them and bran and rickon by being little shits
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I hate talking to wiki fags so much
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>>218366688
He was the medieval equivalent of a carfag, going to meet and greets and drifting around the seven kingdoms, drunk driving, larceny of wenches and finding a decent enough excuse to murder poor people in the streets in a form of moral grandstanding
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>>218368935
ah yes saving children from drunken corrupt goldcloaks is "grandstanding" are you also drunk?
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I just noticed the Westerlands looks like a chad.
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is there a reason why GRRM put like 1000 times more effort into the Ironborn compared to everyone else?
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>>218366509
Does he have a gigantic penis too? Did the Mountain have a gigantic penis? It can’t be too big because he raped a 14 year old girl to completion in that one scene, and other men were able to actually fit inside her afterward.
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>>218368614
got eaten by the Skagosi
this and Frey pie is foreshadowing that Rickon will descend with an army of northern cannibals and eat the southrons thus finally securing independence for the North
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>>218365574
>"redeem" ser
Kek
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>>218368141
Bloodraven gave you the headache!
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>>218369143
They look like a jew
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>>218365397
They cast him as Lucas Inchfield?
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>>218369187
he put very little into them compared to targaryens
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>only succesful house from the Iron Islands were the guys who started trading instead of reaving and bothered allying with the greenlanders
really makes you understand how retarded the ironniggers are, they look at what they accomplished and then go "but muh iron price!!11!" as they elect yet another retarded Greyjoy thief
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>>218368330
>Are you mad?
>Is that relevant?
Kek'd
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>Edmund Blackadder somehow secures a seat on the Small Council under Joffrey
What happens next?
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>>218369413
Time travel
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>>218368384
>He wargs into the dusky woman to get fucked by his brother.
Imagine... Lady Euron... Onee-san
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>>218368398
>>218368412
Egg is right in so far as The Seven Kingdoms have nine constituencies that all were autonomous kingdoms once. The crownlands are the expanded Kingdom of Blackwater Bay that Aegon I originally ruled from Dragonstone. The Riverlands had not been an independent kingdom for quite a while though when Aegon took it from its ironborn overlords.
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>>218368100
>Why does GRRM keep writing space marine characters?
personally I just think it's funny - someone should write a fanfic about an Erdtree Sentinel or the like waking up in Westeros and whatever whacky bullshit he could get up to.
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>>218368456
Top kek
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>>218369294
That's because the Iron Islanders were unironically kept down down by the Dragons, any competent resurgence to empire building and the islands would be fried
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>>218368100
>Why does GRRM keep writing space marine characters?
Not enough daddy issues to be space marine characters.
Also Mountain isn't a eunuch.
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Why did it take 150 years for the Westerosi to overthrow the Targs? The dragons were dead.
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>>218368432
The Bran chapters in Clash (besides the last one in the crypts) are the one chapters I can't for the life of me remember. I know he meets Wyman and Mors Umber at a feast and you have the Ramsay and Lady Donella story mentionned but anything else escapes me.
The Theon chapters were kino though
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>>218369833
Because everything was fine.
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Why did none of you retards warn me before I knew what I was getting myself into?
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>>218369833
Still politically useful to keep the Targs around as a buffer, that way the Great Houses aren't constantly warring with each other for territory since there's an overlord who will decide these matters. It takes another 150 years of Targ bullshit for the Westerosi to decide these people are actually more trouble than they're worth
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>>218369879
Bran using weirwood magic to make you forget his chapters
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>>218369833
No real reason to. The history of Westeros post conquest and even more post dragons seems quite peaceful beyond an occasional uppity Blackfyre. All the realms seem largely autonomous too. It was only Aerys going full mad and actively killing his most powerful lords that triggered a reaction.
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>>218369187
Because they are p[ractically Starks but cooler
>Starks obey, when we would not. The Wolves can be trusted, when we never could. They have a discipline we lack...The Wolves will always come to heel when called. In that regard, it is a mystery why they name themselves wolves. They are tame, collared by the Iron Throne, obeying his every whim -
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>>218369724
Dagon Greyjoy rubbed his nuts all over the west coast of Westeros and the Targs did nothing about it, the Starks and Lannisters had to take matters into their own hands.

For me the continued existence of the Iron Islanders is one of the biggest plot holes in ASOIAF. Either they come to the collective cultural realization that their way of life isn't sustainable or the other kingdoms wipe them out in anger. It doesn't make sense for them to just linger there as a constant recurring cancer
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>beneath mine own roof I have the Longinch. Every day I wake wondering if this might be the day he marries me by force

Do you think she thinks about that in bed a lot?
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>>218369949
Or the fact that Greyjoys were not wiped out and moderate house was placed to lead them
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>>218370024
Yeah you read about how the Lannisters invaded the Iron Islands at the end of the Dance, massacred thousands, caused a famine, killed the Greyjoy lord and abducted and castrated his son, and then later it turns out that the Greyjoys are still alive afterwards and continuing as a house - why? What's the point of this? Why not just kill everyone there and consign the islands to history? There's literally zero benefit to keeping them around.
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>>218370040
Because houses magically survive for 8000 years until one short war when Baratheons, Starks, Arryn and Tully are on verge of being destroyed within 2 years of war
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>>218369833
Because keeping the Targs as the royal house meant everyone can sleep comfortably knowing they don’t have to eye their neighbor for imperial ambitions.
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>>218369294
Everything about the Greyjoys is braindead retardation.
>Start a rebellion because lmao
>The entirety of the West comes together to smush me
>'Oh but it's somehow specifically only Ned Stark's fault so next time we rebel we'll only focus the barren wasteland that is the North'
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GRRM has several times expressed regrets about story plot points in earlier books that he’d like to change(but he can’t because they are already published)
What do you think those points are? One thing for sure he’d rip off Oberyn from show but that’s very minor thing
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>>218369833
>Why did it take 150 years for the Westerosi to overthrow the Targs?
There's an extreme inertness to westerosi history. The same families rule the same land from the same castle for thousands of years. Everyone speaks the same language, from the dornish to the wildlings beyond the wall. It's all very unrealistic. In that regard 300 years of Targaryen rule is nothing.

I would also think that you don't need dragons to continue an entrenched system of government. The Starks and Lannisters need no dragons to keep their own vassals in check. You could also ask why the Reynes didn't just overthrow the Lannisters. If it's a running system, then there's lots of people who benefit from maintaining it on all levels. I mean irl kingdoms also work(ed) without dragons.

I think what's more unrealistic than 150 years of dragonless Targaryen rule is 10.000 years of Stark rule or whatever.
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Why Starks never tried to absorb Boltons if they were causing them so much troubles?
Just imagine the repuration such line would have in Westeros.
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>>218370147
I know Grrm has said he regrets not having the Starks together for a bit more family life at the begenning, before the family gets torn apart.

There's also lots of stuff he has retconned. The isle of faces is heavily teased in the first book for example, but then got dropped. There's also a mention of how the descendents of Aerion Brightflame are stil out there, but then he invented the Blackfyres as rivals for Dany.
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>>218370351
Starks have magic powers and a pact with the Others (the true meaning of Winter Is Coming).
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>>218365761
Poor dragons
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>>218370434
It's okay they are wyverns now.
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>>218370407
>The isle of faces is heavily teased in the first book for example, but then got dropped
I think it's just nor relevant to anything but Lyanna and Rhaegar. It just has nothing to do but to be CCTV for Bran before he learns how to see past without weirwoods
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>>218368728
Naw she'll ruin the show
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>>218369833
being king unironically sucks and things were fairly in order
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>>218370419
No!
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>>218369879
You've been fucked by weirwood magic bran chapters are kino
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>>218370147
he definitely regrets bringing back cat as stoneheart
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>>218370644
Nah that is kino
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>>218369879
i havent read the book but im assuming its time-jump scenarios and gets wacky
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>>218370644
why do you think so?
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George is still debating whether Bran can even (truly) change the past or not.
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>>218366688
he needed more carry weight to loot the garbage off bandits
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Bean cannot change the past as his body is stuck in the present. Any change he makes is either already meant to happen, or it’s done to a different past-timeline altogether; in fact this would be the most disturbing (imagine if green dreams come from doomed timelines).
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>>218370683
but he did fuck up Hodor in the past
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>>218370147
anything related to Dorne
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>Bean
Bran* lol…

>>218370717
See >>218370709

It was either already meant to happen, or it wasn’t his Hodor. There could be an endless loop of Brans fulfilling each others Hodors.
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>>218370147
the ironborn not being genocided
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>>218370644
Yeah its obvious dogshit haha
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>>218370727
>>218370709
I think that's only way to keep story interesting.
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>>218370709
>Bran cannot change the past as his body is stuck in the present.
There are probably two Brans in our story:
1. the normal one that we follow in his POV chapters.
2. the disembodied consciousness of a future Bran that has time traveled into the past to try and change history.

Time travelling Bran is the three eyed crow who has been guiding normal Bran north. Notice how Bloodraven doesn't know what the fuck Bran means when he calls him the 3ec.

Time travelling Bran is probably stuck in some kind of loop and has tried a million things to save the world. The books naturally follow his latest attempt where he finally succeeds.
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>>218370794
>Notice how Bloodraven doesn't know what the fuck Bran means when he calls him the 3ec.
That’s more so a suspicion than a confirmation. That’s the form he took in Bran’s dreams. They made it a bigger deal in the show.
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>>218368728

Why not use actual and not-that-bad-looking siblings instread?
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>>218370794
>his latest attempt wher
>the attempt in which most of his family either dies or gets raped
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>>218370850
It's progress.
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>>218370727
hold the door happens, there is no changing that, bran warged into hodor who is wielding blackfyre, to hold the pass against the wights, so bran himself and meera can escape. This happens there is no disputing it.
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>>218370850
he cant change fate, just the way its attained, or something
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>>218370434
Good riddance.
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>>218370927
shouldve built a southern wall too
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>>218370794
The three-eyes crow’s followers appear to refer to him, or at least recognize him, as such.

—Meera Reed: Who sent you? Who is this three-eyed crow?
—Coldhands: A friend. Dreamer, wizard, call him what you will. The last greenseer.

It’s also important to note that Brynden’s consciousness is fading. Being a part of the weirwood network, he likely is prone to confusion, having to bring himself back to the surface. He is enigmatic. A bit of a transcendent. Reminds me of the sage types characters in the various FromSoft games. So enlightened they’re basically vegetables.
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>>218370892
once he has affected the past he is bound by it, its really that simple, viewing the past is one thing, the moment he interacts with the past that moment is certain it happens.
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>>218366608
The mountain isn't directly blessed by the gods and he got beat by a Mexican
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>>218370927
House Dayne carrying as always
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>>218370984
>he got beat by a Mexican
Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows, only that it flows
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>>218370890
fuck I just realized having blackfyre there might be an attempt by bran to change that fate. so hodor always holds the pass, so bran then engineered it so he had blackfyre and bran in hodor knew how to use it. But in the end it doesn't change shit. In the long run Hodor still dies "holding the door" hell it might result in an Other taking up blackfyre.
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>>218371002
House Toland even made their prank on Aegon their sigil
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>>218370890
>>218371032
it's dark sister not blackfyre
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>>218365742
Better than the country peasants who exist purely to be raped/murdered desu. The likes of The Mountain or Ramsay not getting lynched by this point is absurd.
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>>218371064
dark sister and blackfyre are sister swords its like poetry you see, it rhymes, dark sister isa long sword, blackfyre is a great sword lost after the first blackfyre rebellion, suspiciously enough lost after the redgrass gee where did it go? and what is this sword bran and hodor is practicing with?
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>>218371143
retard
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>>218370850
I would assume the first thing time travelling Bran tried was to straight up talk to his parents through the winterfell weirwod tree and tell them everything he knows. We know he can do that from (normal) Bran's first vision of the past.

But somehow that didn't work out. By now Bran has probably realized that he needs a very specific series of events to happen to stop the Others. Maybe Arya really needs to get traumatised, train as a faceless man, let adult men suck on her loli tiddies, and then come back to do something special.
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>>218371204
idiot, its blackfyre, everyones got it wrong idk how people haven't realized this I got the moment the real hold the door scene was revealed, I am so smart, smrt. Prove me wrong fgt.
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>>218371087
The north went to kill Ramsay and thought they had but he had disguised himself as Reek. Why Rodrik took the henchman prisoner instead of killing him on the spot was more George bullshit armour.
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>>218371218
specially the part of adult men sucking on arya's perky tits
Bran is a genius
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>>218371204
oh btw you can scour affc all you want I am right, suck it
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How the hell is Robb older than Jon? Rhaegar came back to kings landing after the battle of the bells. So Jon had to be conceived before that. Ned and Catelyn got married after the battle of the bells.
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>>218371362
>How the hell is Robb older than Jon?
He's not, you're overthinking this
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>>218371362
ned fucked catelyn on their wedding night, its pretty simple
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>>218365574
They gon make him robbin da hood of GoT
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>>218368441
Egg probably knew that Harren the Black was ironborn and before him Riverlands had their own kings.
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>>218371362
no rhaegar fucked lyanna after that, how is this a dispute?
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>>218371362
Oh dear, someone tell him about the birds and the bees(bury)
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>>218368419
He's messing with Dunk. At least that's going to be my headcanon for why they decided to end an almost perfect season with such a retarded joke.
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>>218371218
>>218371332
maybe D&D were right and Bran likes to watch. Just like Bloodraven
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Do you think Bran warged his big brother Robb and fucked Jeyne Westerling, thereby inadvertently causing the Red Wedding?
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Bran warged into the Mountain for fun
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>>218371255
the whole Ramsay/Reek twist in Clash is retarded, especially since it all comes down to major plot points told to us by Ramsay at the end instead of seeing it through a POV
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>>218371761
>Mountain headaches are from warging
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>>218371276
Stop making me hard
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>>218367884
I think everybody needs to be reminded that this is not in fact the same fat black guy who played the smartest person in the world eternal's character or that spastic black guy in the godzilla movies. As others have mentioned to coma he did a fairly good job in alien Earth for what his character was supposed to be, And I mean he was basically a Space night working for Yutani overseeing the collection of specimens. He does seem To have more of a noble savage African aura to him, I'd give him a chance. Black actors that aren't spastic and can take themselves seriously aren't so common.
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>>218371776
Just recast sydney Sweeney for the 4th season to replace her and all will be forgotten
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>Martin lost the 2001 Hugo Award for Best Novel to J. K. Rowling. Afterwards he made this comment about his fans: "Eat your heart out, Rowling. Maybe you have billions of dollars and my Hugo, but you don't have readers like these."

WTF why is grrm such a petty faggot? And why did he turn against his loyal readers once he got rich himself?
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>>218370831
I need the source asap
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>>218367884
What were they thinking here? Bennis is literally called "the Brown" and canonically he's a very smelly, very stupid asshole of a man who's disliked by everyone, and who ends the story by stealing people's possessions before running off.

Why would they cast a black actor for this role? Because we all know they'll have to rewrite the character completely or else Hollyjew will brand them as racist forever.
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>>218372021
He is an american.
Their whole identity is built upon brits living rent free in their heads.
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>>218372021
because deep down GRRM was always piece of shit
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>>218372216
Whatever you say Muhammed
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>>218372247
As I said rent free
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>>218372019
>Midney
No thanks
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>>218372023
Probably Saxon's insta idk probably saved this like from 5 years ago.
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>>218372371
Idk who is that?
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>>218372446
They're the Sharbino siblings. Just google them.
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>>218372515
Thanks mate
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haha benis :D
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>>218368144
That he does
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>14 (you)s
That was a good haul. I might be able to survive the no-thread winter by feeding on this stock.
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>>218373098
>guy who controls everything that ever happens is half Blackwood
Another easy Blackwoodgod victory
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>>218373098
Unironically based
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>>218373098
if he was in main story besides as weird weirwood wizard he'd be much more hated
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Just realised that all three of Dany's dragons are named after rapists. What did George mean by that?
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>>218373318
Who did Viserys rape?
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>>218373355
He slept with slaves
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>>218373386
But did he rape them?
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>>218373391
Yeah slaves can't consent
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>>218373355
attempted rape of Dany
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>>218373403
>slaves can't consent
why?
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Lyanna consented to being fucked by Rhaegar >>218373318
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>>218373440
Lyanna is 15 and has living parents. Ergo, she can't consent to Rhaegar actions
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they didnt elaborate on any religions at all man
he should release a book just about mythology of everything going on
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>>218373437
They are slaves, they don't have the capacity. Same as children (like Lyanna). The Three Dragons represent the RAPE of Westeros. That's why Dany's arm is full of Browns, Vikings (soon) and Mercs (natural born rapists).
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>>218373475
Not after the wolf roasting she doesn't
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>>218368373
Vic will destroy Eyron and take him as his 2nd Salt Bride
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>>218373527
Victarion...
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>>218373501
Gurrm's worldbuilding on religion sucks
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>>218373440
Rhaegar tricked Lyanna to get into her pants, so it was rape.
If he told her the complete truth, then she would've said "No way! Fuck off you silvered haired psychopath! Robert my love! Save me from this demon!!!"
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What actually happened
>Rhaegar: Lyanna! Come quick! It's Robert, he's fallen from his horse! He's hurt!
>Lyanna: Robert, my beloved! I'm coming! Lead the way!
Then she got surrounded and kidnapped by the False Knights of the Kingsguard
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>>218373501
no need to since all the gods are heavily based on real mythos, there's not much to elaborate on
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Rhaegar probably kept feeding her bullshit about muh prophecy and you're so special. The fact that he locked in tower and didn't even allow her brother to see her is enough evidence
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So what exactly is the AoC in Westeros. I'm asking purely for academic reasons.
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>>218368559
They were that kid who works hard on a school project but doesn't get any credit. Hoster was out there throwing down with gay griffins, i don't think Jon Arryn even saw any action. Yet one is basically irrelevant in post-Rebellion Westeros and the other gets to call shots and run the kingdom (yes i know Arryn was instrumental to the rebellion).
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>>218368800
>Cat started a war
Yeah, a pissy lion with a small dick and a giant chip on his shoulder.
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>>218373575
>Euron had been to Valyria. No wonder he was mad.
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>>218373773
You can wed and bed a woman grown after she had her first moonblood.
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>>218373959
>>218373959
>>218373959
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>>218371776
I don't understand , shouldn't a plump/pudgy Rhaenyra (or Haelena) be more inclusive ? They're always ranting about different body types in media and given how much the showrunners care about this kind of shit, you'd think thay would use the source material faithfully for once. Same with Nettles who got cut whereas she's the one canon brown girl



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