previous>>218456711Norf edition
Ranking noble houses I would live under. From comfiest to to fuck no>Hell yeah:-HouseTyrell-House Redwyne-House Beesburry-House Hightower>Would:-House Baratheon-House Arryn-House Fossoway of New Barrel-House Tully-House Bracken-House Martell-House Manderly (not that cold, rulers tend to be nice)Maybe:>House Lannister (Idk how they were before Tywin)>Nah:-House Blackwood-House Stark-House Glover-House Reed-House Frey>Fuck no:-House Mormont-Mountain clans-House Karstark-House Dustin-House Ryswell-House Stout-House Clegane-House Bolton-House Greyjoy (pretty much every single other iron born house that still follows the old ways)
STANNISSTANNISSTANNIS
>>218469227fucking honorless braken scum
>>218469227Night's Watch?
If Jaime was so good how come he didn’t have enough talent points for the dual wield spec
>>218469227White Harbor is freezing. I know this is pasta, but still.
>>218469288he spent those points in the charisma tree for wisecracking and sisterfucking.
Cant believe we have in this thread people looking down on fan fiction after having watched the second half of GoT or Hotd. Look inward.
>>218469432>Water is wet>Fire burns>Ice is cold>Fanfic sucks
Fanfic sucks because it’s all gay wish fulfillment for their favorite characters or self insert OC bullshit. Is there any fanfic that tries to supplement George’s lore and fill in the gaps of the world building? Anything in the 100 kingdoms of the first men? The dawn age civilizations of the grasslands of Essos? Empire of dawn stuff?
>>218469227something about house tully i don't like i can't put my finger on it but Fuck noHell yeah House HighTower.also you only get one
>>218469242>Crying virgin "noooo please aemond dont burn us with your dragon we will bend for you" BlackWood>Chad "we choose fire" Braken
>>218469288Because he knew dual wielding is actually retarded and a quick way to get yourself killed
Jaime Lannister's redemption arc is so peak. If it ends the same as the show I'll be so pissed
>>218469420I will never not be mad about what they did to Jaime's arc and character. They really cut all his best shit in the Riverlands and instead made him Cersei's errand boy. Disgusting.
Bump
>>218469098egg is icsh
>>218469227Frey is a maybe for me, they are just comfy toll collectors with no delusions of grandeur to go to war. if a war breaks out they call their banners and sit until one side is ahead, you wont see the thick of the fighting
>YOU GRAPED HER! YOU UNALIVED HER! YOU MURDERED H—ACK!
>>218469227>Redwyne>Beesbury>Motherfucking HightowerDamn fine taste, anon. Ditto on the Bracken and Blackwood ratings. Remember to kill all Ironborn!
Do it for her
>>218470902She’s bringing peaches home for her dragons so they can have a nice snack.
>>218470066I mean he is most likely going to die, incest isn’t something you can just wash away. His cock has been tainted.
>>218470902What a cutie patootie!
>>218469288"Jaime Lannister doesn't even dual wield"- Quote from northerner stabbed through the eye
>>218469098Writing the Blackfyre rebellion in an alternate timeline where Dorne was successfully conquered during Aegon's flight across westeros. With the death of the last dragon there's chaos across the realm as the Iron islands, Dorne, and several contested regions declare independence from the Targaryen dynasty. Blackfyre and his small contingent of knights quickly become famous during the siege of Pyke where he wore blackened steel armor for a night raid. The legend of the Black Dragon quickly spreads and he's proclaimed a war hero as they march down to retake dorne. But before their arrival a political marriage is struck with Daeron and Myriah Martell, resentment is at all time high as dorne escapes a majority of the punishment for open rebellion. Then the story begins 10 years later 1 year before the rebellion
TAOOBA!
I need good posters, Ser Anon. The thread...
>>218469098
>>218470902Would do anything for her.
>>218471374That’s not dual wielding, that’s just switching to your pistol is faster than reloading.
>Farlen entered limping, struggling to support his daughter Palla. Her dress had been ripped in two; she held it up with a clenched fist and walked as if every step were agony. Septon Chayle rushed to lend a hand, but one of the ironmen knocked him to the floor.
>>218471554not shitposts, shitposts will kill it
>My lords and ladies. I suppose this is the most important moment of our lives. What we decide today will reverberate through the annals of history. I stand before you as one of the senior lords in the country. A veteran of two wars. And I like to think my experience has led to some small skill in statecraft - and underst-
>>218471813This scene pissed me off. Pure millennial writing. What was the point of Sansa being snarky and mean like that?
>>218471813>clearly states his qualifications that people should actually care about in a king>gets discounted so that Sansa can have another slay kween>crippled kid nephew gets nominated instead for the most retarded reason ever by the midget on trialBro why did Dumb and dumber hate this man so much?
>>218471896Quippy quirk chungus writing enjoys using seemingly normal competent people as punching bags. It doesn't make sense to me either.
>>218471896I'm seriously struggling to remember. Does Sansa even accomplish anything of merit in the story? The only real moment she seemed to have was pulling one over on Littlefinger but that was more of a group project with Bran doing the heavy lifting and Arya holding the knife.
>>218472019She just delivers the Vale to get Winterfell back. Depending on what view you take she also might have been the first to see Dany was a psycho or, was the one that drove her mad
>>218472019she successfully gets molested
>>218472019She told the armorer to include leather because its cold outside
>that scene where Sansa corrects the blacksmith followed up with little finger telling her how great she is
>>218472554>>218472612GODS WRITING WAS SHIT THEN
>>218472722GRAB THE PLOTHOLE STRETCHER BEFORE I PISS MYSELF
>>218471813
>>218472554How exactly did D&D think that adding a thin leather cover to metal armor would make it better insulated? Couldn't they at least have made it fur lined or something?
>>218469098I ask one favor can you bookfags stop posting spoilers for Dunk & EggNot ITT but in other threads related to just D&E?You guys also tried to ruin GOT proper so please stop
>>218472740lmao im gonna steal this one
>>218471671What are you the mountain? dual wielding the fuckin' goalposts ya cunt
>>218472868no problem bro
>>218472868They're not going to stop. Just read the novellas. They aren't exactly War and Peace.
Ah good, finally something to read before Winds
>>218472852She spent 6 seasons being a damsel in distress/a hostage and then suddenly she's supposed to be the smartest person in Westeros despite doing nothing. And the writers had no clue had to show this so she had to tell a northern blacksmith how to make armor. Revolting.
based george
>>218472740The plotholes are too large already your Grace, I can't stretch them any more
>>218471439Will our sweet king win in the end?
>>218473117>muh chequy water
>>218473117when the winds of winter releases...
Preston's fanfiction for Winds is actually not bad. I've genuinely shocked.
>>218473347I don’t care about Preston fanfic but I want it finished so it can humiliate George.He swore that none can finish Asoiaf but himself and no author should pick it after his death. And then someone writes it before he even dies
>>218471439I was reading Fire and Blood and Aegon's Dornish wars are completely unbeliveable. The Dornish just magically disappear and reappear, let their castles get captured and then recapture them instantly once the Targaryens leave, noscope Meraxes in the eye, have their country constantly invaded and ravaged and fight on instead of losing >50% of their population. The plot armor is unreal.
>>218473385I listen to a chapter when I'm all tucked in and going to bed so I might be biased.
>>218473425GRRM copied modern Afghanistan wars without realising how much more brutal medieval occupation would be and there’s no equivalent of Pakistan and Soviet Union/USA to help them out
>>218473425They've got brown skin and he's an american, I'm frankly surprised he didn't make them into unkillable thundercocked demigods, cuck faggot nation
Dornish are Mediterranean. It’s a fandom misconception that they are shitskins
FUCK YOU /got/
>>218473425The Aegon series will 100% be soured by the bullshitto required to make this happen
>>218473600The swarthiest dornish is a Castizo Mexican man
>Trial of the Seven>It’s going to be a slobber knocker!>Dunk knocked to the ground!>OH NO>MAEKAR TARGARYEN CHARGING STRAIGHT AT HIM>BAH GAWD HE'S GONNA KILL THAT MAN>WAIT A MINUTE>PRINCE BAELOR OUTTA NOWHERE>HE JUST SPEARED MAEKAR OFF THE HORSE>AS GODS AS MY WITNESS, HE IS BROKEN IN HALF!
>>218473696>here comes Ser Donnel of Duskendale charging>full gallop>sword ready>BAH GAWD>SER ROBYN RHYSLING OUTTA NOWHERE>BUSINESS IS ABOUT TO PICK UP HERE
>>218473696>>218473735>PRINCE BAELOR TRYING TO HOLD HIM BACK>WAIT A MINUTE>MAEKAR JUST KNOCKED HIM OUTTA THE WAY>HERE COMES MAEKAR RUNNING>THAT'S HIS SON>WAIT A MINUTE>LYONEL BARATHEON CHARGING RIGHT AT HIM>BAH GAWD MAEKAR'S GOT A LANCE>MAEKAR JUST SPEARED THE HORSE>BARATHEON IS DOWN>THE CARNAGE
lol
Won't everyone suspect that fAegon is a Blackfyre the moment he draws out the sword?
>>218472019In the books Sansa is clearly set up as the one that will finally bring littlefinger down. But as the fat man stopped writing just when she began to get interesting and D&D are incompetent buffoons so we've ended up with an absolutely "nothing ever happens" POV character that can only passively react to her surroundings. Same for arya in a lesser degree but at least arya made actual decisions that mattered, stuff just happens to sansa.
>>218473696>>218473735>>218473767>DUNK IS DOWN>HE CAN BARELY STAND>WAIT A MINUTE>HERE COMES AERION TARGARYEN>DUNK IS RUNNING LIKE A SCALDED DOG>AERION JUST STABBED HIM>GOOD GODS ALMIGHTY>THE PRINCE JUST STABBED HIM>WAIT A MINUTE>DUNK HAS A SWORD>HE'S TOUGHER THAN A TWO PENNY STEAK>DUNK IS FIGHTING BACK>BAH GAWD HE'S STOMPING A MUDHOLE IN HIM>AND WALKING IT DRY>SOMEBODY STOP THIS>THIS TRIAL HAS TURNED INTO A DAMN WAR
>>218473814Everyone except for JonCon already knows.
>>218473814With Cersei in power none will care. If he marries Myrcella to mend the rift between pro-rebellion and pro-Targ houses everyone will support him in kicking out that delusional whore
>>218473508>>218473554>HistoryletsGRRM based the dornish on spain (the strongest country in the world, it has tried for centuries to destroy itself and it is still not succesful.) Spain has been under occupation by some of the strongest historical empires of their time and always, somehow, crawled back due to insane guerrilla wars.
>>218473999Forgot to add this image, seven forgive me
>>218473999None of them had dragons, which is equivalent to having airforce
>>218471072i liked the jazz
Tytos Lannister: mocked despite>Raised five excellent childrens, all dutifull to their expected social roles>Westerlands peacefull under him. Not a single revolt/War>Died peacefull fucking a girl she could be his daughterTywin: jerked off by everyoneas a GOAT candidate despite>Raised three failures of childrens that quickly destroyed his legacy>Had multiple revolts against his rules that was forced to suppress via genocide>Exausted the Westerlands with almost constant wars>Died at the hands of his dwarf son while taking a shit (silliest recorded death so far in the whole continent)Is everyone on Westeros a idiot?
>>218474088Don’t forget that Tywin bankrupted his house
>>218473696>>218473735>>218473767>>218473933>OOH THE LAUGHING STORM KICKING THEM WHILE THEY ARE DOWN
>>218473999If Dorne were like Spain, they would have thrown the Rhoyniggers out after centuries of fighting.
>>218473946Myrcella is doomed like all the childrens of Cersei. Cringestar the Edgeknight will murder her
im re-watching GOT because of this general and the red witch getting naked gives me the biggest boners every time shes so fucking hot
>>218474112That's only in the Dumb and Dumber fanfiction
>>218474144Bottle red hair signifies whorish tendencies
>>218474144The actress is actually based, did nude scenes long before GOT, and didnt whined for doing them unlike others like Emilia
>>218474132> Myrcella is doomed like all the childrens of Cersei.JonCon will kill her and Faegon after he realises latter is Blackfyre.He already wants to kill all usurper children, now imagine what he will do once reality of helping both Blackfyre and Baratheon take the throne settles in. That’s something George would write
im also skipping sam and gilly scenes because is there 1 single thing of importance said whenever they are on screen?
>>218474148Nope, Cersei lets faith rearm for debt relief and Iron bank supports Stannis because she refuses to pay crown debt. D&D retards wrote that their gold mines are exhausted but their house is just bankrupt, they can’t mine enough gold in time to fix that
>>218474169JonCon didnt offed himself already because he really want to believe Griff is the son of the man he loved (homo), so by serving the son he could redeem himself for failing the father. Its makes no sense for his character to not die while keeping this delusion alive
>>218474178That’s all Robert’s debt not tywins
>>218473999>>218474011>No Reconquista movie or mini-seriesI went to Portugal and Spain last summer and the Reconquista has got to be the greatest comeback story of all time. Truly insane how tiny mountain kingdom in the north managed to fight its way back and reconquer the entire peninsula
>>218474178The Crown is bankrupt, not the Lannisters. Cersei is simply crushing out the Capital's economy without informing her house that she need money out of sheer idiocy and arrogance
>>218474234Learning everything he worked for being a lie while not knowing about Jon being real Rhaegar son would be completely fine tragi-kino
....semoc eH
>>218474177FATPINKMAST
>>218474178The Crown != the Lannisters.
>>218473636No, /dunk/, fuck YOU
>>218474245>>218474257>>218474302If you think debt being made into big story point and that it can easily handwaved by Lannisters having enough gold to settle just that Cersei was too stupid to do it, then I think you’re just wrong. D&D didn’t pull out of their asses Lannister ms being broke, George told them but they fucked it up anyway
>>218473425>>218473508There's probably some GWOT stuff in the dornish history, but for the dornish wars grrm was probably heavily influenced by the vietnam war. Grrm is a baby boomer, the vietnam war made a massive impact on him, he was a conscientious objector when supposed to get drafted, and he has heavy anti-war themes throughout his literary works. You are, actually, supposed to think that war is bad when you read asoiaf. We should try not to get too hung up on the set dressings (It's desert, so it's afghanistan! It's the alhambra, so it's spain!). We need to be smarter than DnD and realize that Grrm is hammering on vietnam war themes (pointless wars of invasion, spiralling cruelty, mass death of young men send away, etc.). Just like Tolkien was strongly influenced by his time in WW1, whether you want to call it an allegory or not. Martin himself has named moorish spain, wales, and palestine as inspirations for Dorne:"So you could say Dorne is Wales mixed with Spain and Palestine with some entirely imaginary influences mixed in. Or you could just say it's Dorne...."https://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Historical_Influences_for_Dorne There is an important anti-jewish message in this for our current world.
>>218474169JonCon will infect fAegon with greyscale and see his "son" die from it. Grrm is cruel like that.
>>218474379Jesus, Sophie looks hot here. As you were.
>>218474379>The virgin GRRM>dodged draft>never fought >The Chad Jordan>blasted people away>was known as the Iceman>The horrors of war informed his writing >also had an RL harem so he gave his main character an even bigger harem
>>218474390I can't seem to stop imagining him finally getting the confrontation he wants with Varys but being undone in some really retarded and frustrating manner.
>Get up Dunk!>It's time to climb into your wage cage
>>218474379>writing about horrors of war despite never seeing it yourself Classic hack George
>the faggot anon>posted >>218474436
>>218474485Seething GRRMoid. Sad!
>>218474379DABID DABID DABID A SHOAH DABID
>>218474436Is Jordan worth reading when you're burned out on Grrm?
>>218474088>Died peacefull fucking a girl she could be his daughterhe had a stroke or a heart attack while trying to climb stairs bruh
When are we doing a multi campaign?
>>218474574I don't know how to play crusader kings
>>218474593CK3 is piss easy anon, you can learn to play in a single sitting. Ck2 is a little more intimidating to just pick up and play imo
>>218474472This one is far fetched but he has so many regrets about Stony Sept about not killing Bobby B, bells and generally grayscale messing with his mind I wonder if seeing young Robert again(thankfully George kept a character that can perfectly fit this role) and then hearing bells what can start his delusion and burninating a city
>>218474593CK3 is quite easy, once you get the hang of it. The UI is a bit overwhelming, but you can just goof around in the ireland tutorial until you get the basics.I stopped playing it years ago though, after realizing that the devs were shit developers who were unwilling and plain unable to fix their game. From what I've heard they only added even more bloat to it over the years. We have china now, apparently?
>>218474574>Wasting time with CK3 while CK2 exist
>>218474745We have the whole Asia to play now: from north siberia elk fuckers to litterall New Guinea proto-humans.And yet Europe STILL dont have anti-Popes, republica, or a decent HRE system
>>218474548Vale, Ser Humfrey. God damn if you weren't cruelly stiffed.
>>218474750That better not be lancelot or ninja's trash submods.
>>218474773>And yet Europe STILL dont have anti-Popes, republica, or a decent HRE systemThey dont have fucking anti popes or republic mechanics? What in the fuck is paracucks doing
Redgrass, whatever happened there
>>218474966>whatever happened thereWHATEVA HAPPENED THERE?!
>>218474773>>218474846I'm pretty sure there's some republics in Italy but they're pretty barebones
>>218474846By their vision of the game adding the whole America for some early colonization, Atlantis and fucking Agatha from Hollow Earth are priorities compared to proper medieval european historical mechanics
>>218475230It's true. You'll get aboriginals before crusader or king mechanics.
>>218475219you can't play them
>>218475230>>218475247They're probably waiting for someone to mod it, so they can take their work and sell it for £20
>>218474966Redgrass Jenny fucked so many men even a /b/tard could realistically claim to be his father....No wonder he was so touchy about it.
>>218475267I'd seen it a billion times during the development of ck2. They stole the bloodline mechanics, dueling, horde stuff and societies. Thats just what i remember off the top of my head.
>>218475311In ck3 they're already selling a bunch of player made attires and stuff.
>>218474750Iron Islands are so fucking tiny…how are they military threat to anyone?
>>218475475They are bigger than Scotland and can mobilize more of their population for war than any other kingdom
>>218475537What do they eat?
>>218475550cum and seal meat
>>218475475GRRM nonsense. The North can't field as large an army relative to Southern great houses despite its huge size because it's sparsely populated, but the Iron Islands are both very small and also have low population density. Realistically, the whole islands put together should be fielding a smaller army than some Reach middling houses.
>>218475550fish, likely sheep, and whatever grain they can import from the Westerlands and Reach
>>218475475>>218475609Making the Iron Islands such a big military power was clearly a retcon by Martin. Like weirwoods south of the neck, making the Lannisters first men, reducing the impact of winters, etc. Remember that grrm is not a professional writer but a lazy hack who doesn't plan or outline stuff.
>>218475609reminder there are more people on the Iron Islands than in Dorne
>>218475697I know Dorne is a desert but what the fuck
Theory: the idea that they have almost no farmland is 100% an in universe misconception caused by house Greyjoys words and the land around castle Pyke being infertile. the rest of the islands are fine for agriculture
>>218475666What do they pay for the grain? The iron price?
Did GRRM write anything about bird migration on Asoiaf?
>>218475725the gold pricethey straight up mention how there are traders in Lordsport
Theory: everyone is so tall in the books because the guy whose feet they use to measure things simply had tiny feet
>>218471888>>218471896>>218472834I’m sorry but he’s literally a gigantic piece of shit and deserved to have some bitch tell him to shut the fuck up. Dude gave his castle to the Lannisters and got the hero Blackfish killed.
>>218472612yohn royce isn't a blacksmith tho
>>218474088Westeros has been stuck in the middle ages for 10.000+ years, don't expect them to be smart.
>>218473999What the fuck do you call being part of the Roman empire for hundreds of years, only needing one legion for occupation while fucking England had three.
>>218475840busy with siesta ss couldn't rebel against the romans
>>218475725I belive Victarion gets real sad in one of his chapters because he had to "pay the gold price" for resupply on his way to Mereen.Makes you wonder how the Iron Islands economy is supposed to work. What do the pirates steal all the gold and valuables for, just display? But it's worthless junk display to them. How are people exchanging lands, goods and services without trade? Is all just random murder all day every day?>be fisherman>end of day, go back to shore>some guy wants fish and attacks you for them, but you manage to kill your customer>head to bar to relax>kill barkeeper for drink>head home for the night>your salt wife is blabbering about something, but you have no idea what because you don't speak her language.>she used to be hot 20 years ago when you took her, now she's just an annoying hag>find the neigbour's salt wife in your living room. Dead.>your own wife makes you understand with gestures that she killed the other one over getting some eggs.>sleep>repeat
>>218475892maybe it's meant to be that you can pay your own kind but must take from the greenlands orrrrrrrGRRM wants it to be retarded on purpose since the Ironborn are in a sense a satirical take on might-makes-right
>>218475892>he thinks George ever considered anything beyond if he thought it was coolThe fat man thinks 20.000 gold dragons is a suitable prize for an archery competition. Let's say a gold dragon under Robert has the same purity and therefore weight of a Persian daric, 8.4 grams a coin. Anguy fucking won 168 kilograms of gold. ONEHUNDREDSIXTYEIGHT KILOGRAMS
>>218475914> satirical take on might-makes-right>makes Ironborn super cool guys that are beating Reach, allying with Dany and used to hold half of NorthGRRM is really bad as all that satire thing
>>218474527He still fucked that super young mistress that Tywin hated tho
>>218475940Which is less than Roose got from Freys for marrying Walda Frey
>>218475940The value is also fucked in relation to other things he wrote. I belive people buy/sell one horse for one gold dragon. So Anguy has the wealth equivalent of 20k horses.
>>218476032Or one pair of boots a whore
>wasted it all in like a weekend of whoringbro must've bought whores for the entirety of the seven kingdomsactually you know what? from here on out I say we put Angus the King of Whores on the Iron Throne and make whores free for the entire realm!
threads are getting mighty slow, guess it's time for it to die until next season comes out
>>218476073wtf i'm a blackfyre now
>>218476092I don't post in slow threads because, when I shitpost for real, I don't want them to know what I can do.
>>218476092
>>218469288Dual-wielding is retarded and does nothingI think even GRRM, who thinks that a sword weighs 50 kilograms, realized that.
>>218469288Did they ever explain why the actual fuck Arthur Dayne has no Dawn and fights with two swords? What the actual fuck was their thought process
>>218476094As you should be
>>218476222Because Dumb and Dumber didn't read the books and inserted crap they thought was cool (it wasn't.)
HE BORE THE DIGITS!
>>218470902muah the Bri’ish
Tyrion wasn't meant to be a dwarf in the OG draft right? Otherwise I don't see how jon/arya/tyrion love triangle would be anything but comedy gold
>>218476367> I don't see how jon/arya/tyrion love triangleIsn’t that how it was in season 8 but with Dany instead?Also hard to call it triangle when it’s two people in love and seething incel imp
>>218476367>jon/aryaWhat is it with this dude and incest? Is he a muslim or something
>>218476498stick em with the pointy end
>>218474750CK3 really is potential man compared with CK2, always could be better but never is
What happened to the servants/midwife/maester who were at the tower of joy?
>>218476542CK3, for all it's flaws, does one thing really, REALLY well and that is the ruler designer and DNA system.
>>218473425I know the narrative of these wars makes it feel like Dorne is OP but actually it sounds like at the end of the wars the dornish were pretty much on their last legs and had been heavily bled, the country had become a wasteland (even the rare fertile parts), the population had been impoverished, if they had kept fighting they would have maybe remained independent but there wouldn't have been much of a country or of a people left
>>218476542>>218476584>20,000 gold dragons for the complete edition
>>218475840England never had full three legions outside of direct campaigns that were ongoing it what are you on about. And there was near constant rebellions and peasant wars in spain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagaudae
>>218475723the lands are actually tilled by thralls and captives
>>218476601Just hoist the colors anon.
>>218475863what an awful meme
>>218476601>not paying the Iron Price for ityou lot who have abandoned the old way and stay clear of the seas are a sorry bunch
>During the ensuing rebellion, after the Battle of the Bells, Gerold was sent to find Prince Rhaegar.[16] While Rhaegar eventually returned to King's Landing, Gerold did not.Showfag here, was Rhaegar unaware of the ongoing rebellion or he was but chose to stay and bang his tomboy gf?
>>218476656>>218476661the pirate version works with multiplayer?
>>218476685he was an ubernormie of course he would rather stay and fuck instead of doing his dutyyou know shit like this is exactly why Stannis should sit on the throne he would NEVER choose sex over duty
>>218476685Rhaegar did the entire thing in order for Jon to be born, who would one day save the world. Prophetic visions are hard to differentiate from madness.
>>218476707No but if you want to play MP you don't need any DLC at all. Only the host needs them and everyone in that session gets access to them.
>>218476594Maybe, but then why keep fighting when the alternative is peaceful existence under Targaryen rule? The rest of the continent had been under their rule for years and wasn't really subjected to harsh treatment. So what were they getting slaughtered for? Nothing but empty Martell pride? Who would accept that? Their vassals should start seriously considering defecting to the Targaryens, but instead they happily accept being burned alive by the thousands purely to protect the hecking epic Martell house words.
>>218476781they descend from the Rhoynar which fled old Valryia because they were getting absolutely btfo by the dragon lords
>>218474160>bitching about nude scenesYou could just watch porn, or even better, get a girlfriend.
Norferners are all chuds that think women can't rule and that you shouldn't be allowed to bang your hot knights, literally why would Dorne EVER be okay with being ruled by them?
>>218476872tbf the rhoynar started it
Well?
>>218476950she would have wrote so many shipfics about the trial if she had access to ao3
>>218476950>>218476972How wet do you think she got when she saw Dunk beating the shit out of Aerion during the trial?
>>218476872They're not all equally descended from the rivercucks and dying over history from hundreds of years ago isn't any more convincing than dying over Martell pride.
>>218476772>Jon>a TargLmao, Jon is the son of Aerys and Ashara.
>>218476950cunny is the greatest
>>218477010KEK
>>218477011was probably stealth rubbing it the entire time
>>218476772But Arya saved the world. This doesn't make sense!
>>218476972>>218477011>>218477067>>218477138You can't say that
>>218477039it doesn't have to be the historical event itself but rather their history shaped the culture of refusing to submit
>>218476685>>218476772Basically this. Absolutely none of Rhaegar’s actions make sense unless he was prophecy brained and knew the Targaryens had to lose the rebellion to produce Jon >>218477046>A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with sweetness
>the snow is a secret targ prince fags are here
>>218477165>beeg and shtewpid
>>218476950>the actress confirmed that they shot scenes where she implied she'd like to get married to him in the future
>>218477285fucking big if true
>>218477285an extended cut would be nice at some point or just release the cut scenes, apparently beesbury had a bunch that were cut as well, poor actor thats gotta sting
>>218477191Every kingdom in Westeros had a history of fighting every other going back thousands of years, they all had a culture of not submitting.
>>218477307Except the Riverlands.
>>218477306Why did they cut anything lol, like I understand its a short season and episodes because of budget but if you already shot the scenes that money is already spent
>>218477336because like the short story its almost entirely from dunks pov, apart from a couple scenes with egg its all dunks pov
>>218469713Funnily enough he's completely correct. If they had just wrecked Daemon at Harrenhall the war would be over, then and there.
>>218469713And what has ser Criston Cole posted?
>>218477298https://x.com/knightofsevens/status/2029946537443291196
>>218477307ok but because of the rhoynish influence it makes sense why the dornish would be extra motivated not to bend the knee to the targaryens specifically because of their dragons
>>218477386He posted ckii screencaps. Brilliant.
>>218473508>how much more brutal medieval occupation would beIt wouldn't. You want people alive because you need people to work the fields, pay taxes, and bring your wine.
>>218473425>, let their castles get captured and then recapture them instantly once the Targaryens leave,Skill issue>>218473508>GRRM copied modern Afghanistan warsOr Crassus campaign in Parthia, first half, when he captured several towns and reutrn on winter into Syria only to find out all captured garrisons are retaken by parthians.
>>218473814No, because she's not a Blackfyre. We find out Young Griff's identity in a conversation between Varys and a man he is about to murder. He has ZERO reasons to lie. GRRM set up this scene intentionally so that the reader has no cope about it... but of course instead the retards started theorizing about him being literally anyone else.
>>218477449
>>218477448Do you feel extra motivated to be an alcoholic because your ancestors sacrificed a goat to Dyonisus two thousand years ago?
>>218477496Varys never said he’s not “Aegon Blackfyre”
>>218477496Of course! Everyone knows that Bittersteel Inc, would gladly support fighting for a red dragon.
>>218477568>Black or red, a dragon is still a dragon. When Maelys the Monstrous died upon the Stepstones, it was the end of the male line of House Blackfyre. And Daenerys will give the exiles what Bittersteel and the Blackfyres never could. She will take them home
I just marathoned the first season of dunk and egg yesterday. The humor didn't always land but apart from that it was a comfy show.
>>218477496There are literally multiple reasons for this which are given even in the most rudimentary Blackfyre theory explanations, there was always going to be a false dragon in the books
>>218477496Remember when it was foreshadowed that black dragon sign washed on bank of a river red from rust? I guess it was pointing at exactly nothing at all and he’s not Blackfyre because Varys said so(famous guy that never lies)
>>218473937I don’t think anyone except Varys and Illyrio know. It may be that Young Griff will die with everyone believing him to be Rhaegar’s son.
Is the catspaw assassin the single most nonsensical plot point in all of asoiaf?
>>218473425That's just Targs being overrated.In other settings his whole army would be stopped at single fortress.
>>218477675Yes, that’s the biggest shit GRRM would rewrite if he could start all over again
>>218477675It's a casualty of George having to retcon a bunch of shit to give Jaime a redemption arc, but sending an assassin with a rare, valuable weapon that could easily be traced back to the royal family was stupid from the jump
>>218477675Bloodraven sent him.
Targaryens drool, Blackfyres rule.
>He gazed through the fug of cheese dripping from his eyebrows at the blurred monitor before him. Ten years, ten years he had been gazing at those words. They swam through the murk and came into sharp focus. “Oh Ser Barristan!” Dany gasped, “Tweak my nipples! Tweak them harder!” >Those words. Those dreaded words he had gazed upon at least once a month for the past decade. And they never appreciate it, do they? The never appreciate the sacrifices I make on their behalf. >With gargantuan effort, he lifted his hand to the keyboard. His fingers, coated in chicken-grease as they were, slid off the keys. He wiped them on his velvet-slashed vest and began to type. The first character was the hardest, quotes meant using the shift key. Ring finger on the shift key, index finger on the ‘2’. Breath rasped through his chest with the effort. Had it always been this hard? Keeping his finger on the shift, He reached for the ‘O’ key. >Damn! He missed! He now had a capital letter ‘P’ on his screen. He reached for the backspace key. Eventually he typed the entire sentence out again, and spent many long moments gazing at the results of his efforts. “Oh Ser Barristan!” Daenerys gasped, “Tweak my nipples! Tweak them harder!” >He had done it. He had successfully changed the short form name ‘Dany’ to the long form ‘Daenerys’. The sentence was so much better for it. This was how the book would be written. A chapter at a time, a page at a time, a word at a time.
>>218477727I hate that this is actually less stupid than the official answer
>>218477766>Doubt began to form in his mind. Was this the right decision? He would have to review this new sentence many times over the months and years to come. He cast his mind back to the day, many years ago, when he had first shortened it to ‘Dany’. He had changed his mind back and forth many times since then. Certainly he would change it again many more times before he was happy with it. >He glanced at the clock. Almost ten minutes had passed. Had it been that long? The muse had been kind to him today, that was more work than he had completed in many a year. >He turned off the computer and went to find some food. Only then did he realize that he had forgotten to hit save.
Here's a quick reminder.Whether it's Targaryen or Blackfyre, know that the sigil has 2 (two) legs, and not 4 (four).
>>218477584It would have been a lot easier to just show up during Bobby's reign and tell him how much you fucking hate Targs. He would have welcomed them with open arms.
>>218477808That would've fucked with his claim. He claimed the throne through his Targ grandma, not through right of conquest. If someone with stronger Targ blood suddenly showed up at court there'd probably be yet another civil war.
>>218477808When do the Blackfyres stop being Targaryens and become Blackfyres. I feel like an actually distinct Blackfyre identity separate from the Targs would only be a recent thing. If either Daemon took the throne they would probably rule as Targaryens. Same with Aenys. Yeah anyways Maelys is still a Targ
Did he recognize her?
>>218477836Robert had a far stronger claim and Maelys recieved no support in his attempt even after Egg tried Westerosi socialism and blew up his family
>>218477846naw, he would have immediately seized her if he did
>>218477869Maelys was a deformed monster with tard strength anon. Of course nobody was going to support him.
>>218477648>>218477646Right, because he never changes his mind in-between books.How about that time skip? Or multiple abandoned plot points from the early novels?For all we know Daenerys might be a fake one, for fuck's sake. She has literal fake memories.
>I swear to you, I was never so alive as when I was making these shitposts, or so dead as now that I’m out of material.
>>218477846There's no way he would have let her go if he could have taken her captive, or even just revealed her presence and have the Lannisters owe him.
>>218475810Edmure was the lord of river run, not the blackfish. He gave it up because the lives of his family and his men is more important than his pride. You wouldn’t understand.
>>218477836>I'm 1/8 targ so I have the rights to usurp a full blood targ and keep his children exiledRobert's warhammer was his claim, him being partially targ was just the cherry on top some ((maesters)) and loyalists used as a cope for swearing fealty to him
>>218477891Varys and fat man said that Golden company has contract signed in blood.So let’s see what Varys does with Aegon and DanyHe secretly trains Aegon to be best king and sets him up with best renowned sellsword companyHe also lets Dany and Viserys run around like beggar kings, then whores Dany to DothrakiHe clearly has preferences for Aegon and humiliates Dany+Viserys and we at least know latter one is real Targ, even if Dany herself is Lys whore
>>218477891>multiple abandoned plot points from the early novels?Such as?
>>2184779861/4
>>218477675Illyrio funding two separate Targ takeovers of Westeros is worse while supposedly only giving a shit about one of them all along was worse.
>>218477986>Robert's warhammer was his claimNo, it wasn't. It could have been but he didn't use the right of conquest claim, probably on Jon Arryn's recommendation, since he wanted to bring the loyalist factions back into the fold.
>>218478025The catspaw dagger, for one.
>>218478036At least it makes a it of sense>Targs invade with Dothraki army, sow chaos and destruction >Aegon Blackfyre arrives with Golden Company and puts stop to itTargs are seen as double evil while Blackfyre are seen as saviours of Westeros
>>218477986His claim was Aerys was an insane tyrant.
>>218478006The Golden Company definitely do not know that Young Griff is a Blackfyre. They just want to go home. Ilyrio and Varys are probably the only ones that actually know. The only way I see Young Griff actually being exposed is if George decides to play with the Jon Connington - Jon Snow angle where Connington in delusion thinks Rhaegar named him after himself.
>>218478070>>Aegon Blackfyre arrives with Golden Company and puts stop to it>They have much fewer men.>And all the food will be pillaged.>And all the shelter burnt down.>And you have to chase around an army of horsemen.>And you'll inherit ruins and ashes even if you win.The """plan""" is completely retarded.
>>218474177Aemon flashback/fever dream ramblings but that's tiny. Sam was always one of my least favorites
>>218478145It makes perfect sense when you realise Dothraki have no chance against unified front. Golden company is just one puzzle, second are houses loyal to him
>>218478036This one is also pretty bad. Him sending Dany to marry Drogo is also total nonsense for his overall plans unless he somehow knows that it's necessary to bring back dragons.
>>218478145You don't understand! Turning the realm into a complete shithole and letting tens of thousands die is absolutely necessary because a kid that got raised as a peasant will totally be the best king ever and nothing will ever go wrong again after he dies.
>>218478145chaosh is a laddah
>>218478271>a kid that got raised as a peasant will totally be the best king everClearly Varys doesn't remember what happened last time that happened.
>>218478352tbf Egg was a very good king until the typical genetic Targ madness took over. Considering Aegon might just be an Essosi kid with Valyrian features and not a Targ or Blackfyre at all, it MAY still be sensible, at least for one generation until his kids grow up as wealthy shitheads
>>218478088>The Golden Company definitely do not know that Young Griff is a Blackfyre. They just want to go home. Ilyrio and Varys are probably the only ones that actually know. Something I never understood: Lots of people in the fandom say that the Golden Company supporting Griff means he's actually a Blackfyre. But if the GC really cares about this, then you would have to tell all 10.000 of them, which would reveal the secret because the soldiers would surely talk. A supposed Blackfyre secret could only remain a secret if you don't tell it. But if the GC follows Griff believing he's a Targ, then you can't use that as an argument he's actually a Blackfyre. >>218478006>even if Dany herself is Lys whoreYes, Dany is either a Lyseni street urchin or a Dragonstone peasant. She's a trick, a shadow on the wall, a mummer's dragon if you will.
>>218478385>Egg was a very good kingHe really wasn't. He tried to turn Westeros into a socialist shithole.
>>218478444>when the peasants have rights and can't be brutalized that's heckin socialism
>>218478462Yes. Showing blatant favoritism towards one sociopolitical group is very bad and very dangerous.
>>218469098What is this thread about?
>>218478444He also usurped his nephew
>>218477672the higher ups in the golden company must know or they wouldn't follow him
>>218477548
>AKOTSK made me obsess over this series again >even though I know it's pointless because no new books will ever come out
>>218478197unless its a united dothraki, thats where this is obviously leading genghis khan with dragons
>>218477686If anything he went out of his way to make it so that the "obvious" culprits that wanted Bran dead at all costs were completely innocent and turned it into a random accident that somehow incriminated the Lannisters even more because of a murder attempt happening right after Bran's "accidental fall".I also don't like much that LF ended up being the one behind Jon Arryn's murder when it was so much easier to make it so that Cersei had him poisoned through Pycelle when both of them already knew that he was about to spill the beans about Bobby's kids not being his. Mainly because all of LF's bullshit stories to get Ned and Cat to go after the Lannisters conveniently ended all with him getting more titles handed to him rather than with Lysa retardedly fucking and getting him beheaded.
>>218478520*democratically elected over
Why doesn’t Danny just rule Essos? Why does it have to be Westeros?
>>218478567Even the united Dothraki and all the Unsullied and hell let's even throw in the Second Sons and all the Slavers Bay troops wouldn't do shit against a united Westeros. Let's be real generous here and say that said army numbers up to 250,000, that's only about twice the amount of what the Reach alone could field. All the Seven Kingdoms united could field an army of well over a million men, not counting any extra sellswords they might hire from Essos.
>>218478444Go shit some more gold, Tywin
>>218478657Muh arn thrown
>>218478385It's just not worth it to orchestrate the worst war Westeros has had in 200 years and fuck shit up when things are finally getting better to make it happen.
>>218478657Throne is too heavy to move and she’s too cheap to make a new one I reckon
>>218478660Who the fuck is going to unite them? Cersei? Get real.
>>218478718Learn to read Rajesh.
>>218478718I think a Dothraki invasion legitimately would unite them. I think the Noble houses would have no problem putting their squabbling aside temporarily when there are literally barbarians on their shores.
>>218478732you idiot, thats the problem their is a very real chance dany will unite the dothraki as it stands their is no chance anyone will unite westeros, and lets not forget the fucking dragons
>>218478660actually with the dothraki we are talking a cold million
>>218478946just read the thread man, it's really not THAT hard.>muh dragonsDragons ain't shit. If the fucking D*rnish of all people managed to no-scope one out of the sky then everybody can.
>Let's say Viserys Targaryen lands with 40,000 Dothraki screamers at his back. We hole up in our castles. A wise move. Only a fool would meet the Dothraki in an open field. They leave us in our castles. They go from town to town, looting and burning, killing every man who can't hide behind a stone wall, stealing all our crops and livestock, enslaving all our women and children. How long do the people of the Seven Kingdoms stand behind their absentee king, their cowardly king hiding behind high walls? When do the people decide that Viserys Targaryen is the rightful monarch after all?
>>218478960That's ALL Dothraki though. Women and children included. Dany's (Drogo's) Khalasar had 100,000 at it's peak.
>>218478980yes it is hard its nearly impossible at this point am I talking to a show only fag?>>218478996its not 40'000 its a lot more then that if and when dany unites them all
>>218478946I admire your passion!
>>218479049nope I am talking warriors only, lets say their are 30-40 khalasar, drogos was 40'000 screamers. now 40'000 x 30 is 1.2 million, so to be conservation at the very least 700'000 warriors only
>>218479055Are you actually illiterate? We were literally just discussing Aegon Blackfyre uniting Westeros with the Golden Company at his back. Here I'll even spoonfeed you.>>218478070>>218478145>>218478197
>>218479110yea I ead it and its fucking stupid give the current state of westeros, are you forgetting they've just been though a massive devastating war, you are using pre got numbers, it wasn't even worth dignifying with a serious reply.
>>218479103Nah, Vaes Dothrak is roughly ten times the size of Pentos, and it's supposed to be able to hold every man of every khalasar at any given time. That puts the total Dothraki numbers at best at half a million and change, with only about half being actual warriors. Factor in attrition over the years and you'd get 200,000 Dothraki warriors.
>>218478660>against a united WesterosThat’s the problem though.
>>218479145>he forgets there's supposed to be a timeskipanon...
>>218479162you are forgetting gurm doesn't understand scale at all, vaes dothrak is suppose to house every khalasar true, but gurm doesn't understand how these things worked based ont he numbers given if dany takes command of the entire horde its a million, and yes thats warriors only
>>218479171but there isn't so we have to deal with the state of things as they are
>>218479179It's really not. I'd concede to half a million Dothraki if we assume half of them are just boys who've never been in a real battle, even then they're completely fucked. The Dothraki got their boat sunk by the fucking Unsullied femboy meme soldiers at Qohor. Against a real army they'd get smashed into bits and ground into dust.>>218479193>but there isn't so we have to deal with the state of things as they areIt'd take an army of that size years to reach the Narrow Sea. That's years of attrition and years of disease and years Westeros has to rebuild it's strength. And you're forgetting that the Reach and the Vale hasn't seen much, if any, fighting so they can still muster their full strength.
>>218479313>Qohorthat was like a 100 years ago and is legend because its the only time they were defeated jfc.
>>218479313>It'd take an army of that size years to reach the Narrow Sea.Unless dany takes control of all the seaports in essos, oh wait...
>>218479384>that was like a 100 years ago and is legend because its the only time they were defeatedThey were defeated the first time they met any meaningful resistance that didn't shatter like glass after the first charge. The Dothraki are severely overrated.>>218479399Dany is currently in the Dothraki Sea. Just getting back to Meereen will take considerable time, even on dragonback. And she has to lead a whole Khalasar there, which will move even slower. And that's just the ONE Khalasar. Then she has to go back out, find the other 20 or so Khalasars and lead all of THEM back to Meereen and THEN somehow get enough ships for all her soldiers and their horses and then sail unmolested to Westeros.
>>218479313>Which is the bigger number, five or one?
GRRM was just shit at imagining Dothrakithe way he presents and wordbuilds them doesn't actually make them all that menacing. they have no infrastructure, no proper tactics, they don't advance their equipment, they're more like roaming vagabondshowever GRRM got into his thick head that they're MONGOLS which makes them as dangerous as the Mongols - except the Dothraki other than vague ethnic allusions and aesthetics don't have any of what the Mongols threatening
its being set up that jon will claim a dragon right? i don't know why this didn't happen in the show either
>>218479516Five. Having to fight five separate enemies with their own tactics is far worse than fighting one predictable enemy.
>>218479487>Dany is currently in the Dothraki Seadid you jut forget how tdod ended? she isn't going to be for long
>>218479522I stopped taking them seriously when they went on about them not needing armor and Drogo dying of a fucking infection.
>>218479581No cherry picking info anon. How long will it take her to find 20 Khalasars and bring them all back to Meereen?
>>218479487jfc you idiot danys story is going the same way as the show, the dothraki that found her will take her to vaes dothrak she will somehow take over and become the great khal
>>218479604see >>218479605idiot, its happening pretty much the same as the show except for the stupid burn them all and I'm immune thing, probably drogon will burn the khals
>>218479605And all the Dothraki Khalasars are just conveniently going to be present at Vaes Dothrak? Did they teleport from Yi Ti and all the other places they were raiding to be there for the convenient plot thing to happen?
I recently gave preston jacobs fanfic another chance, first time I was discouraged by how reddit/oh-my-science the prologue was turns out it's by far the worst chapter and the only one that feels distinctly like the average fanfiction but the rest is pretty good although quality varieties a lot between chapters.The better ones almost read like the canon material though, if you had showed me preston's davos a month ago and told me if was a new sample chapter from winds I'm pretty sure I would have believed it.What do you guys think of it?
>>218479559tell that to genghis khan
>>218479641Genghis Khan welcomed advise and strategies from varied sources specifically so he wouldn't get mogged by the first real resistance he ran into.
>>218479622no it will take time word sent ahead they are bringing dany the wayward kalessei to vaes dothrak, it will take months, all the great khals will come, once again you forget gurms lack of sense of scale. But his story telling this has been set up since tgot, are you seriously trying to say it won't happen? I mean of course it won't happen as the fatman will die but thats obviously the way its headed
>>218479683oh gee are you saying gurm is a retard that takes surface notes and doesn't understand anything deeper? I am telling you how the story was intended to go, and remember she has dragons, thats gurms excuse for everything, if it doesn't match up to real history its magic and dragons
>>218477336>apparently beesbury had a bunch that were cut as well, poor actor thats gotta stinghe understands that time was needed for shit jokes, giant cocks and songs about fisting
>>218479622>And all the Dothraki Khalasars are just conveniently going to be present at Vaes Dothrak?yes by the time she gets their thats exactly whats going to happen
>>218479695No it'll happen alright, it'll just take such a long time that by the time Dany's army is assembled Westeros will be back up to full strength. Or at the very least, strong enough to break the Dothraki, who are the bulk of Dany's army. Aegon Blackfyre and the Golden Company could unite all the houses of Westeros to destroy the unified Dothraki.>but the dragonsThe Golden Company can bring 500 elephants. Let's not even begin the force multiplier conversation.
>>218479522>except the Dothraki other than vague ethnic allusions and aestheticsI know that Martin wants the Dothraki to be inspired by Mongols, but he knows shit about Mongols. There are no ethnic and aesthetic allusions to them. I don't think the Dothraki are even horse archers lol.https://acoup.blog/2020/12/04/collections-that-dothraki-horde-part-i-barbarian-couture/
>>218479641the Mongols stole enemy equipment and gradually adopted it into their own army with mass production. the Mongols wore armor. the Mongols had tactics and strategy beyond just rape the nearest mountable woman.if Genghis Khan tried to lead the dothraki and make them act like this, they'd rape him and kill him because that kind of plan is too complex for horselord brains
>>218479778dragons anon, fucking dragons, sorry you are fucked
>>218479559>One. One army, a real army, united behind one leader with one purpose. Our purpose died with the Mad King.
>>218479634Same. Davos was really good. I found it interesting that Preston is not just autistic about the content of grrm's stories, but that he can also write well. Though the fanfic is apparently a collaboration.I hope he finishes his version of twow and grrm hears about it. The meltdown would be pretty funny.
>>218479815you are giving gurm too much credit, dany is female genghis khan, thats all their is too it
>>218479816Dragons are the ONLY threat Dany brings to the table. And the Dornish and the Dragonpit incident have already proven they can be killed. Dragons still need to sleep, still need to come down to eat, and they have to get into visual range to start burning shit. If the Golden Company does a Timur the Lame thing and starts mounting scorpions on their elephants those dragons wouldn't fare well either.
>>218479883>ONLY threatonce again you are choosing to dismiss the biggest army in the world a mounted army of fucking maniacs
>>2184777814 legs is the official blackfyre sigil, Aegor just never knew how many legs a dragon had
>>218479902Yes I will readily dismiss the Dothraki. They don't amount to anything other than a raiding force. No armor, no strategy, no sense of when to retreat. 20 million Dothraki could sail across the Narrow Sea and 20 million Dothraki would die.
>>218479918okay buddy, believe what you will I suppose its stupid but you do you
>>218479932Yeah it's not like Jorah has specifically pointed out that Dothraki weapons don't penetrate Westerosi armor.
>>218478657uhhhhhh
>>218479812they are horse archers, he got that much right, drogo btfo of another khalsar by using horse archers against them while they are busy murder raping sheep men
>>218479940yeah its not like literally everyone is terrified of a dothraki horde
>>218479987Because they are severely overhyped. Their only real victories are against fucking sheepherders. The second they hit an organized army they broke and never went that far west again.
>>218479940Which is maybe 1 out of every 10 fighting men and they’re spread all over the continent
>>218480052The entire Westerlands army wears heavy high-quality steel plate armor.
>>218480018>sack cities for centuries>only one defeat so rare its legendary>over hypedlol, ok
>>218480068No they don’t.
MAKE THE DAMN THREAD BEFORE I PISS MESELFDON'T LET IT DIE AGAIN FAGGOTS
>>218480079Yes, they're overhyped. Why didn't they ever come back then, if it was just a fluke?>>218480102Yes they do.
>>218480121it was out of respect, have you never read or more likely I suspect forgotten the damn novels? they could've still beaten the unsullied its a twist on the 300, they were so impressed and so ashamed they didn't just roll over them they accepted defeat, its legendary because its the only time it ever happened
>>218480068Lmao, no they don’t only Knights wear plate armor and sometimes not even that
>>218480068>shirt with stitched iron ringsidk how many times I've read this line, you are delusional, how long has it been since you read the books?
>>218480120what is dead can never die
Is no one baking? I can do it, give me a sec.
