Thread for the intellectual discussion and aesthetic appreciation of arthouse & classic cinema.Banditi a Orgosolo (1961) edition>Set on the mountains in Barbagia, in Sardinia, the film reveals an archaic world, unspoiled by society. Its people speak an ancient dialect and live according to prehistoric laws. They see the modern world as foreign and hostile. In them, De Seta found the vestiges of an old society through which a nobility shone through. I remember being impressed by the style of the film. Neorealism had been taken to another level, where the director’s participation in his narrative was so total that the line between form and content was obliterated and the events dictated the form. De Seta’s sense of rhythm, his use of the camera, his extraordinary ability to merge his characters to their environment was a complete revelation. It was as if De Seta were an anthropologist who spoke with the voice of a poet. —Martin ScorsesePrevious: >>219262806
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D'you guys reckon this thread'll get pruned when all of Cucksta's shit gets cleaned out of the old and it drops below the bump limit? Happened a few times lately.
>>219297422>Set on the mountains in Barbagia, in Sardinia, the film reveals an archaic world, unspoiled by society. Its people speak an ancient dialect and live according to prehistoric laws. They see the modern world as foreign and hostile. In them, De Seta found the vestiges of an old society through which a nobility shone through. I remember being impressed by the style of the film. Neorealism had been taken to another level, where the director’s participation in his narrative was so total that the line between form and content was obliterated and the events dictated the form. De Seta’s sense of rhythm, his use of the camera, his extraordinary ability to merge his characters to their environment was a complete revelation. It was as if De Seta were an anthropologist who spoke with the voice of a poet.Could you put this in the form of a question (of the day)?
>>219297858I'll be damned.>>219297962Autism speaks.
>>219297858He shat out at the very least 15-20 particularly shitty posts that are begging to get deleted. There'd be at least the same amount of replies to him.
>>219298194And it's still only on page 5.
>>219297422>Thread for the intellectual discussion and aesthetic appreciation of arthouse & classic cinema.*Dame ogling and preservation
>film is for cucks? what gave you that impression?>meanwhile
>>219297858That Daisies thread incident was wild. Lasted ages after all those posts being purged.
>>219298255Voyeurism is a kino theme, indeed.
>>219297858I feel really happy that y'all fags' hearts are breaking and showing the reality of who you are. Seeing you suffer is my treat.
>>219297962>Could you put this in the form of a question (of the day)?Set on the mountains in Barbagia, in Sardinia, the film reveals an archaic world, unspoiled by society. Its people speak an ancient dialect and live according to prehistoric laws. They see the modern world as foreign and hostile. In them, De Seta found the vestiges of an old society through which a nobility shone through. I remember being impressed by the style of the film. Neorealism had been taken to another level, where the director’s participation in his narrative was so total that the line between form and content was obliterated and the events dictated the form. De Seta’s sense of rhythm, his use of the camera, his extraordinary ability to merge his characters to their environment was a complete revelation. It was as if De Seta were an anthropologist who spoke with the voice of a poet?
>>219297422Based non Lloyd or Lloyd inspired edition.
>>219298347>Daisies thread incident>all those posts being purgedQRD? Surely you're not referring to my five-day-old thread from last month as nothing was purged from it.
>>219298612It's intellectual.
>>219298667Five day samefag necrothread*
>>219298667Got it mixed up. It was the A Woman is A Women edish, but I just remembered the Daisies posting in it.https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/218404157/#218431323
>>219298686>Scorsese>Intellectual
>>219298775Mogs Kekchiche and would fist his ass in a chess match.
>>219298727Gotcha. Oddly enough, what you described also happened in /film/ recently. I thought about it another second after posting that and figured you were referring to this nuke:https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/218522270/#q218544642
>>219298775Yeah, he would go all Rashid Nezhmetdinov him.
>>219298845Idk, Marty doesn't strike me as someone who's good at chess.
>>219298918I think he would be around 1800 elo if he played, easy.
>>219298845>would fist his ass in a chess matchThat sounds profoundly unintellectual.
2001: A Space Odyssey (US/UK,1968)8½ (Italy, 1963)Ashes and Diamonds (Poland, 1958)Citizen Kane (US, 1941)The Leopard (Italy, 1963)Paisà (Italy, 1946)The Red Shoes (UK, 1948)The River (US, 1951)Salvatore Giuliano (Italy, 1962)The Searchers (US, 1956)Ugetsu (Japan, 1953)Vertigo (US, 1958)Diary of a Country Priest (France, 1951)Ikiru (Japan, 1952)Ordet (Denmark, 1955)Thoughts on my top 15, /film/?
>>219299031Assfucking is a mainstay of the sadean "decadence and philosophy" tradition.
>>219299084All 7/10.
>>219299084All me/10.
>>219299084Actually great, but 8 and a Half's gotta go.
>>219299084>Thinking we wouldn't recognise Scorsese's top
>>219299087But it's surely grounds for a disqualification in chess at the very least.
>>219299171You wouldn't get it, but that's fine <3
>>219299171Which 8 and a half have to go?
>>219299084>2001: A Space Odyssey (US/UK,1968)People of that generation were really blown away by this film.
>>219299231Not if he likes it.>>219299261One of the middier Felidae joints, still like a 7.5/10.
>>219299356It's insanely ahead of its time (it's a little boring, though).
>>219298775*gets brutally beaten up by de-aged De Niro while a mashup of Donovan's Atlantis and The Ronettes' Be My Baby plays*
>>219297422https://gofile.io/d/noO8L7https://gofile.io/d/noO8L7
>>219299356Moron>>219299400>b word Moroner
>>219299367>Not if he likes it.It's not about consent. They don't let you have sex when you're playing chess. And with the dirty hands and the pieces it becomes a serious hygiene issue.
>>219299493Those old farts at the chess academy are really anti-fun, aren't they?
Scorsese intellectual
>>219299084No one seriously likes Citizen Kane.People just think they have to like it because it's technically well-made. It is, however, not a well-told story. Nor a story worth telling. It all boils down to "muh visual experience".
Kechiche corporeal
>>219299456Why am i moron, all i did was point out a fact.
>>219297858Lmao. It (sort of) happened>>219262806>>219262806>>219262806
Glad to see Takashi Miike is working with interesting actors.
>>219299914Please let it be a snuff film.
>>219299914She's so fucking hot...
>>219299914Imagine the abomination they'd create if they bred.
>>219299409While shout-era Pacino calls him names.
>>219299987Adam's sister is pretty hot, so it probably wouldn't be that bad.
>>219299984Cute mutt.
>>219299813>1 hour and 28 minutes later
I found this woman and her letterboxd profile, care for you guys to share her thoughts about her profile?https://letterboxd.com/radanna/films/
>>219300703All shit. Dumb bitch.
>>219300703She didn't watch Bandits of Orgosolo. Not interested.
I feel separated and disconnected from my "fellow" zoomers and people. That woman has nothing in common with me.I'll rewatch one of my favorite movies ever, Trial on the Road.
>>219300703She hasn't seen very many Korean films.
>>219300703Actually, I take >>219300849 back.
This woman, I've got nothing in common with her. I've come across the profiles of others, like her, female.They have nothing in common with me. I feel like Siri Keeton.
>>219300348I think I'd like to choke her and bite on her tits. She seems like a good person.
>>219297422is polanski /film/? I watched rosemary's baby last night and really liked it. Chinatown is one of my favorite movies. I've seen another one of his apartment films but I forgot the name
>>219300703Better than SupremeLemon.
>>219301226>his apartment filmsThe Tenant?
>>219301174Yeah, same.
>>219301278probably, it was years ago but I think I liked that one too. RB reminded me of the style and I'm considering taking the polanski pill
>>219301226This one, right?
>>219301226>is polanski /film/?Yeah. Watch his Macbeth adaptation.
>>219301636yes>>219301643is it faithful to the play?
>>219301980Based, so it was The Tenant.
Mirror (1975)
>>219300703I hate women
I wish I was Russian instead, I like russian film
>>219302553Russian cinema has been ass since like 2000s ended
I wish I could still pull all-nighters.
>>219302827I wish I could still stay up for two and a half days straight where I begin hallucinating just by looking at the wall.
>>219302827You still can catunc. Nothing is stopping you. The entire /film/ community is sending you their energy.
>>219303393I just saw some crazy shit. The moon just came out through the clouds and it's huge. Very foreboding.
>>219303451Why are you so condescending?
>>219301980>is it faithful to the play?Yeah.>>219302438One of Andrei's two masterpieces.
>>219303511Not personally knowing me, I guess I can see how you viewed that statement as condescending. I apologize if I offended you.
>>219303891It's so easy to not be a cunt, just remember that. See how I'm subtly patronizing you? How the fuck do you like it?
Clarence lol, imagine being a male named Clarence. Films for this feel?
>>219304194RoboCop
I just read an article saying Terrence Malick's Jesus film might never come out and it made me very sad.
>>219304290Someone just needs to edit the thing properly.
is this a good movie to watch for easter?
>>219304594Looks more Allahpilled than Christpilled, desu
>>2193041948 Mile of course.
>>219304713Same difference, I just don't want to have to watch The Ten Commandments for the umpteenth time.
>>219304594it's about the rise of islam... good film but it's got nothing to do with easter
>>219304021I'm not offended though.
chewy has a husband?
>>219305360he keeps stealing my movies without dropping a like
PALMS ARE SWEATY
>>219305422too busy in that bussy i guess loool
yep it's time for a john ford kino
>>219305316Yeah but you're still a smug cunt, doesn't matter if you're "offended" or not. You're such a piece of shit, it's so obvious.
>there are posters here in their 30s with husbands and wivesUndeniably grim
>>219305545>Undeniably grimWhy?
>>219305574They should go spend time with their family instead of posting here.
>>219305659It's not like they're here during all their waking hours. Or are they?
>>219303451>allnighterkek not me i cant even make it til midnight but thanks though. its already too late for me goodnight
>>219305913Goodnight and sweet dreams.
>>219305794i probably spend about 20 min here per day personally. wish i could spend a little more time giggleposting but such is life.
>>219305913I knew the other guy wasn’t you catunc. That guy isn’t as chill. Goodnight.
We're all chilling under some broad's sombrero here.
We all got that camarillo brillo here
the smooth(tm) heremy thoughts viewing gibsons' passion of the christ:I thoughtI was going to have a pious respectly good friday viewing of the passion of the christim 15 minutes in and this is borderline comical, incredibly hack, and borderline offensive2004 ahh moviegibson is artistically and theologically ineptcartoon punch sound effectsincredible amount of stock sound effectsand this cheesy slow motion and le epic musictrashy disruptive flash backs as epic marvel revealsthoughts /lbg/?
We're all not replying to that post here.
im cumming
1. Apocalypto2. The Passion of the Christ2. Braveheart2. Hacksaw Ridge3. Flight Riskthat's how I would ranked them.
>>219301226>is polanski /film/?Are you kidding me, he's like the patron saint of /film/.
>>219308519His biggest proponent here left a few months ago, unfortunately
>>219307375im responding to this
>>219308587You mean Haremfag?
>>219309455He meant Kfag.
>>219309702
>>219309455>>216496115
>>219309751Our resident BLACKED worshipper was also a "Polanski fan", insofar as he only watched his Natasja Kinski joints repeatedly.
>>219309856You write weird and you suck at spelling.
>>219304380I won't accept a cut that excludes the pot-smoking Christ scenes
>>219310270Don't make daddy angry, kitten.
I'm reading these 2025 threads and they're sovfvl af. Modern /film/ doesn't stand a chance!
>>219310493which one for instance
>>219310493You need a hobby asap
kino
>>219310823>Choosing the french poster
>>219310493>getting this nostalgic over last yearGive me 2010 /tv/ when Ellen Page was still a hot topic.
>>219311449
>>219309856You can stop, we already know he was based.
>>219311635>Two namefags in a row Yikes.
>>219311787Tripfags*
>>219311635Also please don't post Ellen Page, it makes me sad.
>>219311855>please don't post Ellen Page, it makes me sad.Fair enough, it bums me out as well. What about picrel?
Brigitte Bardot that sounds like some old white lady you all would know
>>219311770Well, he wasn't racist, that's for sure.
guess he was the pabo after all
>>219297422>>Set on the mountains in Barbagia, in Sardinia, the film reveals an archaic world, unspoiled by society. Its people speak an ancient dialect and live according to prehistoric laws.I mean that's literally just Sardinia dude. Any good hairy armpit scenes?
>>219312531these two are cute
>>219304290Malick is a hack
Starts furious and slowly loses steam that never picks up again; lacks the impetus and potency of the sophisticated brute force cinema of a Sam Fuller, or Andre de Toth or Robert Aldrich, from that same period. It is interesting how the two cop characters are equal main characters and their interplay was quite good. There's this pretty much constant jazz music lowly playing underneath every scene that is very, very, VERY annoying. Ida Lupino is great as always and her production company The Filmakers actually produced this (i think i'm gonna watch everything they did, looking at their IMDB page, it's actually not that many films). Dorothy Malone is also in this and i love her face.Good film but nothing remarkable, like it is with most of the 40s and 50s films of Don Siegel i've seen. The climax could've been staged so much better.Macmahonbro, you might like this.
>>219312177Well, although very unfortunate, it's nowhere near as tragic.
>>219304194It’s a Wonderful Life.
>>219297422>chewey is gayexplains a lot
Good night, /film/.
Rec romance films please :)
>>219320293Brief CrossingTwo LoversMr DeedsBreezySurviving DesireBridges of Madison CountySpanglish
>>219320293The Umbrellas of CherbourgA Scene at the SeaJohnny GuitarLetter From an Unknown WomanThe Apartment
stipeticbump
>mom can we watch a Harmony Korine film?>we have Harmony Korine at home
>>219320293Kanto RubyLovers of the Arctic Circle
Today this could beThe greatest thread of /film/'s lifeBefore we hit 310Before we run out of timeStay on-topicStay on-topicWatch the thread come alive tonightStay on-topic
>>219320998>The ApartmentA man falls for a homewrecker even though he declares that he has morals. Utter trash from Wilder.
>>219323792>Yes, it was all Fran’s fault. Mr. Sheldrake is innocent.
>>219323792Someone who is an objectively trying to critique a film isn't looking if the story has A, B, or C. It's really about how well the Director did at crafting the story. That ties into auteur theory.
>>219323792I loved that movie until that bint attempts suicide. Talk about a buzzkill.
Sean Baker has definitely posted on /film/ before.
>>219325017Based.
>>219320293Hello, Sister! (1933)>>219322630>7th framethat scene was transcendental af if yaknowmsayin
>>219325017He's made a couple threads even
>>219325017>>219325296I think you're confusing him with Sean Pony.
>>219316643>you might like thisWatchlisted. Funnily enough I suggested the Nº222 last thread.
If someone starts whining to you about their problems irl, shut that shit down. Tell them you don't want to hear it and remember when no one had the time for you when you were in that position. No more empathy.
>>219325493What are you making a reference to?
>>219323476>>219322748I don't like his stuff, normalfag slop.
>>219325556 Nothing. It's something that can truly help you.
>>219325604*stab*
>>219325604Cringe
>>219325493That just shows you deserved what you got since the beginning, failed the test and all. You're one of many normalfags now.
>>219325570Didn't ask.
>>219325738Your sundanceslop is mid, Sean.
King of /film/
>>219299084No Iranian cinema. It's shit.
Sean Baker makes the most low vibrational film possible. For the academy, for the awards and only for that. Out of those it can't exist.Dishonest, vapid, not real film.
>>219325953To be fair, that Lego one hadn't come out when he made the list.
Baker has a great film in him, he just hasn't made it yet.
>>219326021You're a funny lad.
>>219320293Two For the Road.
>>219325364Hell yeah! Not asking for a number today because i know what i want to watch tonight: the Richard Kern/Lung Leg films the previous thread made me wanna see and maybe Paris nous appartient too if there's time.
>>219322630https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Cannes_Film_Festival#Main_Competition_2great year
bumpsti
>>219326367Turbo kino.
>>219326367>Award of Visual Narration: Rosanna by Emilio Fernández>Award of Exploration Film: Green Magic by Gian Gaspare Napolitano>Award of Fairy Tale Film: The White Reindeer by Erik Blomberg>Award of Entertainment Film: Lili by Charles Walters>Award of Good Humour: Welcome Mr. Marshall! by Luis García Berlanga>Award of Adventure Film: O Cangaceiro by Lima Barreto>Award of Dramatic Film: Come Back, Little Sheba by Daniel Mannmuch better than the awards in [current year]
>little girl takes off her clothes>Jean Luc Godard "activate slow-motion"what did he mean by this
uhm
>>219326264Based.
No shit, Sherlock.
>>219328677
Sundanceslop, cannesslop, frenchslop, hollywoodslo, prestigeslop, criterionslop.
>>219328872Still slopStill slop
>>219328872Don't forget trackerslop.
>>219328677El monstruo de las australias did it again...
Film is inherently slop.
Six Seven Things I Know About Her (1967)
I have one also called nordicslop, to those who know they will know what I mean by that>>219328967The soviets and the japanese did real art back then. But now people have been trained wrong to expect and want the wrong things out of film.
>>219328995I KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT HERI KNOW SHE'LL ONLY MAKE YOU CRY
>slopzoom zoom slang, don't engage
We're all inherently slop here.
>>219329000>to those who know they will know what I mean by thatMy nigga, lets be honest, you surely haven't watched more than 5 nordic films.
There has never been a good thing ever.
>>219329071>Surströmming-eaters have taste
The worst slop of all is in my opinion >>219329071I have, the nordicslop is far more elusive than the others but its a recent phenomenon. It's not about a film having been made by the nordics or their industries but instead having their sensibility. Their brand of culture and artistry can be seen here. It can be smelled, felt all over. Which is why even the mere presence of an actor is dangerous to me, sloppa.Frenchslop is more centralized.
Even babies being born is horrible. It's the worst thing of all.
Lots of japanese classic films are just boring shite, but euroshite (Bergman, Zulawski) is even worse.
>liking goodslop
>>219329093Nothing gold can stay :(
>>219329133You might be on to something
If we're being honest for a second, the only filmmaker who DOESN'T make slop is Ridley Scott
Lars von trier is of course nordicsloppa but here he is mixed with other slop. It takes a real effort to be able to see the inherent quality of nordicsloppa.Nordicsloppa infected new york slop which went to infect more "branches" of film for the americans
>>219329206That's because he makes straight-up garbage.
>>219329193I actually read this mf in uni... lil bro actually thought life has to be good without making an effort... lmaoing @ his suicidal existence and "rape" for having been born geg
why this general is being spammed with these cancer fags now? Gio, costaricanon and some other minions are literal cancer
>>219329259TRVQUE
Mainstream slop is the result of an infection native to the americans mixed in with the italian film. The 70s to 80s made americans fully expand their inherent film mental parasite but they always had it from the start back in the classic era. This is the most dangerous of all infections, the American strain of "film"it became endemic.>>219329273We are all thinking cancer here.
>>219329146O COSTAFREAKO
>>219329273Browns drive everyone away.
>>219329273Imagine if they poured their collective efforts into making films. We'd have kino.
>>219329360We'd have soccer highlights and nothing more.
>>219329323what happened all of a sudden?
>>219329273Kill yourself bro, you are cancer and unironically will never fit in with the waifufags you so desperately want to be a part of. You were a fucking red flag since you pretended you were a white portuguese-italian descendant... go fuck yourself, nigga (literally, nigga).
A good dosage of classic russian and japanese film, of experimental short films is key to become healthy. To reduce the effects of having been infected by poor sloppa.Here, many anons go deeper into the infection, french and american film. So sad to see.
>>219329385you are stomach cancer*FTFY
costaricanon going insane again, what a fucking cancer retard
This image shows a patient by many strains of sloppa. I posted her letterboxd before.
>>219329383Third world countries started getting significantly increased widespread internet access and now the internet has become Camp of the Saints.
>>219329261>lil bro actually thought life has to be good without making an effortIf you read it, there's no way you comprehended it. I don't like his asymmetry argument and I think that he himself even conceded that one response to book damaged it beyond repair, but "you need to try harder to be happy" is an ignoratio elenchi.
>>219329417Lmao, it's funny how you went from passive-agressive to agressive-agressive now... don't tell me: you dropped out of high school AGAIN as a 32 year old unemployed man? Lmao, suicide RIGHT NOW! You are even less than a waifufag.
>>219329389This dogmatic stance is shortsighted. The russians and japanese are currently shitting out cinematic 'slop'. And in the past when their cinema was at its peak, there was also some sloppy flicks and whole genres being produced (run of the mill social realism, hentai flicks, etc).Moreover it is ignorant to equate all of american cinema with hollywood mediocrity, since they had many great auteurs that work within and outside the studio system.tl;dr: watch more films lil bro
Like Jesus Christ I am hated in this general for speaking the truth. For daring to be an iconoclast.Even David Lynch who once was my favorite was in danger of infection, that his films have been adapted by people infected of cinematic sloppa is another thing. But I like to think he was above it, inhabiting classic hollywood's mirage but dissolving it into actual worth.Many here wait for their french films with nothing to say, and no innovation. This is a visual medium, a visual art.>>219329546The russians and the japanese are dead in art. Dead, one has no longer any incentive nor way to make art the other created anime which is far worse for art and for thought than anything that came before. To anime we own cancer as the convergent evolution version of capeshittards and mainstream action flick fags.I am not claiming all american filmmakers are slop but I am claiming everything that came from the classic pipeline is. There are masters in their history and I like their films but it hasnt been properly celebrated by the industry, nor will they find a second wind relevance wise.
costaricanon has been cancer for many years, this retard keep coming for some reason, your family keep beating you? same with gio, literal insane retards, lol
>>219329485Essentially, all of the birth = rape proponents like him and Lanza fundamentally misunderstand the nature of life as something that has to be gained... you are born dead and you earn life through your efforts. Dudes like him just think they are born and therefore have to "be" happy just because, but life doesn't work like that. The assimetry thesis works if you are ignorant of the fact that you can actually achieve value from life through effort. TLDR: classic academicist cope, living life through intellectual masturbation instead of concrete action, etc.
>>219329676You are cancer on your family, you fucking leech... leave this place and get a ficking job, you useless piece of shit. You also are talentless at music, give up and work at the supermarket.
>>219329546I am misunderstood here, either as bad faith arguments or ignorance. I am not against any branch of film, I am against first and foremost, letterboxd, fantano types, film twitter, criterion, sundance and cannes. That's my enemy, they and what they consider good.>>219329687Ignorant and reductive.
>>219329669what is your own personal canon of american classic cinema, then?
>>219329809I'm interested too.
costaricanon keep projecting more and more in every post he makes, I'm starting to feel sad for him, so many years of abuse created a deranged person
I have nothing against auteurs of any branch or origin. I have every reason to be critical and against film twitter types, letterboxd types, criterion watchers, and also sundance and cannes. That's my fight.
up next for arirang april
>>219329866You know I'm right, you just can't deal with the truth that you're a fucking failure desperate to be accepted by other failures. You suck at the flute bro, I know because I'm actually a talented musician myself and I've played music since my teenage years. Just give up and kill yourself.
>>219329687This doesn't touch his argument which is that a lack of pain is good even if it isn't experienced by anyone while a lack of pleasure is only bad if it is experienced. You need to be more radically anti-consequentialist to deal with it seriously and not just give him a bootstraps pep talk.
>>219329952Alright mang but only after you tell me /films/ for that feel
>>219329866Lil Hitler was the final nail in the coffin for him.
>>219329973The lack of pain argument is his biggest cope. Life should be approached as a gym if you wanna make progress therefore, understanding that no pain = no gain is a fundamental part of your philosophy if you so desire to eventually achieve a state of well being. Benatar is kinda like the fat fuck that gets into the gym, sees people suffering and says "fuck this shit, Imma die". Pain is good if it is conductive to gain, but of course, David doesn't see that. Pain is the way to achieve painlessness.
Philm
>>219329991The Aviator (2004), a movie about a millionaire retard with many dreams and no talent + a lot of anxiety and a tragic ending (self chosen, btw).
>>219329809I have mentioned it before...and this thread is hostile to me as seen here >>219329480>>219329417over my ethnic mixed origin, as i such i cant in good faith share anything with you guys
>>219330002i think you're right, dude is on the verge of suicide, kinda worried for him
>>219314293NTA but my painting recommendation for you is: Félix Vallotton "L'Automne" (1908).
>>219330216Come on nigga, you don't hqve a high school diploma and you're 32... either stop coping or suicide right now. You're pathetic, and I feel no pity for you: you deserve what you've created for yourself. I will never suicide because I'm getting better everyday, and you know this and resent the feeling that your life is the same as it was 20 years ago while people pass you by in life. Sad! but not really.
>>219330351>I'm getting better everydayThat's what they always say.
>>219330099>Pain is good if it is conductive to gain, but of course, David doesn't see that.He does see that, it's just that his response would be "So what? Should a child getting abused by a parent with Munchausen's by proxy be grateful to the parent for treating the illness that they caused?" The whole argument to the effect that one's situation in life can be improved to the point where you want to live no matter how bad it is (itself questionable in certain extremes that he mentions iirc) plays into his hands by making it all about pain and gain.
Pain and Gain (2013)It's /film/ btw
>>219330477The secret /film/ Easter egg hunt that I started with my post is now over.
>>219330405>Should a child getting abused by a parent with Munchausen's by proxy be grateful to the parent for treating the illness that they caused?No, that is new age mumbo jumbo nonsense... my advice for that child is to survive and then make his parent pay for what he did, and then create a state of well being so stable that he will eventually forget about the abuse and go on with his life as if nothing happened. The whole "pain is bad, man, life sucks" argument is essentially nothing more than teenage basement stoner philosophizing to try and avoid solving life's problems instead of taking action to do so. If life is so bad, then commit suicide, that is free and relatively easy to achieve with a gun, but if you wanna be part of the 50% of people that actually understand life and go through pain to achieve an ubermensch status, then live and stop with the intellectual masturbation: do something.
I am hated here for daring to step away from the faux art interest here (actually an excuse to coom to niche and increasingly niche women to validate you people)because i am an incel im the only one genuinely interested here
>>219330609If you have functioning artistic sensibilities and general pattern recognition by the time you're a late teen you should be bored of the majority of tropes and narrative plots found in mainstream Hollywood type films, and have a hunger for something that represents or at least attempts to represent certain themes and feelings found in life that are rarely found in modern mainstream films.Your lack of developing this faculty has lead to you developing an ego defense mechanism that has concluded that these films are inherently meaningless filled with "pretentious" themes and the people who enjoy them are simply pretending, as to gain some kind of imaginary clout, as your crippled brain projects the idea that these people are operating from a mode such as your own in which everything is done for the sake of inflating one's own ego.
>>219330609TSAR TRVTH BOMBA
>>219330681posted it again awardbanned from posting images award
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>>219330578I think this is going to be my last comment because you're either trolling or just have very poor reading comprehension. We're on the same page about life being worth living: I don't need the pep talk you're giving as I have fundamental ethical disagreements with Benatar that renders the asymmetry argument unpersuasive, and the pep talk as a refutation of what he's trying to say simply misses his point while playing into his hands.>make his parent pay for what he did, and then create a state of well being so stable that he will eventually forget about the abuse and go on with his life as if nothing happenedFar easier said than done as Benatar would note and as you reveal through your vagueness. Doesn't touch the asymmetry argument either way.>solving life's problemsHis whole point is "why bother creating something that requires such massive effort to get to work out (even then unreliably) only temporarily? We're not really missing out on anything good if we're never born because we won't experience it as privation, but we do necessarily suffer if we are, so it's not worth the hassle.">If life is so bad, then commit suicideAs paradoxical as it sounds (though it's commonsensical enough to by in the lyrics to Ol' Man River), death can still be bad and terrifying even if life is overall bad. Also doesn't really touch the asymmetry argument.
>>219331094No pep talk, just reality. I don't give a fuck if people want to kill themselves; in fact, I think that's good for the world. Nothing worse than people who're non contributors.>why bother creating something that requires such massive effort to get to work outBecause it's net good. You could say "why bother getting a house when it can burn down", etc.>We're not really missing out on anything good if we're never born because we won't experience it as privationThen die.>B-but it's scaryPut up or shut up
*lightens the mood*
>>219331423>No pep talk, just reality.It's a pep talk in terms of substance at least. You are ignoring his argument and just counter-asserting truisms.>Nothing worse than people who're non contributorsEven if his book isn't good (and I don't think it is taken as a statement of the truth at the very least), he's almost surely contributed more to the world through it via its reception than either of us have.>Because it's net goodThis is just begging the question. >Then die.>Put up or shut upLast I checked, the book was called "Better Never to Have Been" and not "Better to Kill Yourself". Dying is different to never having been born in that you are experiencing fear, privation, pain, etc. Indeed, he thinks that death is part of the reason life is not worth starting.
>>219331043Cute witch!
>>219331928It's not a pep talk, I'm just talking about what he implies throughout the book and the real reasons that inform his philosophical posture. I've studied many antinatalists -and I was one myself for a long time-, and I know that every argument is just a cope for deep rooted depression and a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of effort and its consequences in life.>he's almost surely contributed more to the world than usIf you take "contributing" as getting fame, then yeah, but I personally consider a man that works as a dishwasher to provide more value to society than David Benatar ever did. His philosophy literally changes nothing except for maybe helping euthanasia causes.>Last I checked, the book was called "Better Never to Have Been" and not "Better to Kill Yourself".The logical consequence of accepting the book's propositions is literally coming to a Better to Kill Yourself stance on life, because what is the point of living when Bwnatar himself says there is no point of living as all is pain and sorrow lmao? He is so blind as to why people like living, man... it's so retarded. People like him unironically need to go through soul raping struggle to learn to be happy; it's the only way to save them, to give them no choice but to save themselves or die so that they can understand why every single argument in the book can be dismantled with a single "put up or shut up".
Judaism is holy I have to say
Can we please get back on topic
Ick
>>219332642Yeah, Train to Busan was some A grade donkey scat of a movie.
>>219329385That wasn't me, you should be able to tell because the first word was lowercase and there was no period/full stop at the end of the post, that was another anon calling you Costaricanon for a change. I don't respond to the schizo fighting posts anymore.
>>219332832Oh, I'm sorry, then.
>>219332724Train to Bussin
>>219332642True, let's get back to discussing actresses with arousing hands.
>>219332405>It's not a pep talkWell it's certainly nothing even approaching a refutation. You are doing everything you can to shift the focus from his actual point and just give a prefab "no pain, no gain + you're a hypocrite if you don't kill yourself" answer to pessimism more generally.>If you take "contributing" as getting fameI wasn't meaning that. I think the value of his book lies in all the attacks on it it has inspired. It has made people reflect on something important.>The logical consequence of accepting the book's propositions is literally coming to a Better to Kill Yourself stance on lifeIt really isn't. Saying that life isn't worth starting isn't the same as saying that all lives should be ended for the reasons given and even if it was, it would leave the asymmetry argument untouched because that argument is about the harm of coming into existence.
>>219333065>>>/tv/
>>219333065OK
>>219307375this but the last temptation of christ
>>219332945Why are you under the impression i don't have a high school diploma though?
>>219307375Smooth, stigmata-less hands.
>>219333067I don't care about refuting arguments which are poor and half truths at best, I care about exposing the fundamental reasonings which provide said arguments. Benatar is obviously coming from reflections created by depression, and despite his best attempts to hide said bias and pretend his philosophy is objective, the reality is that anyone who's gone through the antinatalism rabbit hole and has come out the other side understands what causes one to fall into that rabbit hole and what takes one out of said rabbit hole. The fact that he's never made a part 2 discussing and refuting some of the pro-life arguments show that he's never thought deeply about his own ignorance of why people choose to live in spite of the pain in the first place.>It has made people reflect on something important.I guess so, but I look at antinatalism not as an end goal but a step in the way of arriving at the bigger truths of life.>the harm of coming into existence.This only happens when you're unaware of how to reduce or remove said harm.Btw, I think he basically took the objectivity mask off when he published The Misanthropic Argument in 2015. It's basically impossible to be an antinatalist if you love something.Ironically, Jesús G. Maestro is a big retard, but he once said something that hits the nail in regards to pessimism: "nihilism is the result of living a life devoid of love".
>>219333468You said you were going to night school and it sounded like it was high school to me. I've never heard someone talk about higher education while referring to it as "night school".
This stuff is 10 trillion times worse than waifuposting btw
>>219333622Go back to /wpop/, lil bro.
please respond
>>219333671Suck my nuts queermo, at least the gooners jerking off to feet have the decency to post about cinema every once in a while
>>219333698who
>>219333728Nanako Tsukidate
>>219333622We need to lasso every single Waifufag in /film/ and send them off to pasture.
>>219333614It was a technician course, a qualification for a certain field of work, idk what it's called in english. I graduated high school at 17.
>>219333550>I care about exposing the fundamental reasonings which provide said arguments>Benatar is obviously coming from reflections created by depressionSounds more like you're just taking it as a given that he's not reasoning at all, but just wrong by virtue of his depression regardless of what his argument actually says. You're basically being the old guy with the mustache from Taste of Cherry and just talking past him..>The fact that he's never made a part 2He released an essay responding to critics.>I guess so, but I look at antinatalism not as an end goal but a step in the way of arriving at the bigger truths of life.That is my point.>It's basically impossible to be an antinatalist if you love something.I agree, but that's a different argument.
>>219333165Based. She was very cute in De Palma's Mission Impossible, despite the early bogging. It appears big-eyed freckly brunettes have always caught my eye.>>2193336221000%
>>219333495wrong<- see unpublished list
>>219330351you're a retard and your family beat the shit out of you every day, you're a loser and deranged as fuck
>>219334073 >>219333495oops!
>>219334143Where's The Way of the Wind
>>219334143opinions on Europa '51?
>>219334143What do you think of John Huston's The Bible?
>>219333866Ehem, I don't know, man, I think if you dedicate yourself to a certain field of study in philosophy you're going to eventually arrive to the opposite conclussions from which you initially arrived, and in the mixture of both schools of thought, you find a bigger truth than that which you would have been able to find within a single school of thought. Hegellian dialectics and shit.Problem is, I think the academic structuring of universities and publishing houses nowadays creates a structure in which people are incentivized to produce content relating to a single school of thought, which in turn causes authors to become limited and egotistical in trying to force a very incomplete vision of reality over other, potentially worthy visions of the same phenomenon which are complementary in nature to the initial thesis. I find Benatar's work to fall along the lines of an incomplete school of thought, yet he seems unaware of the biases that shaped hia thought into the way it is now. The same happens all of the time in politics; one side doesn't understand the other side, etcetera.
>>219329546Japan is still making good films, but you're too busy watching midwit core shit and all the crap that gets nominated for oscars so you can stay topical.
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>>219334080Siphon on my scrotum, if you please.
>>219334263Name at least 8 good japanese films released in the last years. I'm waiting.
>>219334080If the stomach cancer doesn't kill him, god willing something else does :)
>>219334324you will commit suicide soon so don't worry, your trauma won't let you live longer
>>219334361mean to reply to this nigger >>219334306
>>219334313I'm not spoonfeeding your bitch ass. The fact that you ask to be spoonfed tells me a lot about how little you know about films, yet you still want to talk about it as an authority figure.
>>219334482The difference ratio between good films and mediocre/downright bad films being produced in japan nowadays is abyssmal. I don't know your filmic taste but the defensiveness of your post doesn't speak highly of it.
>>219334596I don't care about ratio, I care about good films.
>>219335015Name 8 lil bro
bump of /film/
