Why didn’t he just work harder?
>>219508006You can’t “work harder” when it comes to certain artistic skills like writing or composing music. It’s literally inspiration from God.
Because God decided to troll him.
>>219508059The gods*
>>219508006Italian, it's not in his nature to work harder
>>219508006>We have sid james at home
>>219508118There is only one God and they are noted for their love of music.
>>219508006>“The rest is just the same, isn’t it?”How do you respond without sounding mad-eus?
>>219508218He*
>>219508006Salieri still "made it" by most people's standards. He was court composer of Joseph II (the musical king). Why was he so ass mad about the newest flavor of the week popstar? It's not like his job was directly at stake.
if Salieri had living heirs they should have sued the producers for libel
>>219508255Let me guess, you need more
he was working his ass off on all the political and social maneuvering he thought was necessary, leaving him very little musical ability.
>>219508059>You can’t “work harder” when it comes to certain artistic skills like writing or composing musicNonsense
>>219508281At first he was jealous, then he became angry once he realized that Mozart, despite being a divinely inspired genius, was wasting his gifts and living a life full of sin. His efforts to fix Mozart inadvertently killed him, which is why he feels guilty about it. The moral of this fictional tale is to just stay in your lane and appreciate people for who they are.
>>219508320That doesn’t really work, does it?
>>219508255It's a a short entrance piece, Herr Mozart. Not a concert symphony.
>>219508106God was teaching him a lesson in humility which he refused to learn from.
>>219508413How so?
>>219508255>uh, nah bro there's actually a sick ass guitar solo after this part, I just didnt bring my axe heh..
>>219508006The just work harder thing is a fucking myth spread by boomers. If you aren't naturally gifted hard work runs smack into your own natural limits. Plus it all comes down to luck and popularity most of the time.
>>219508684It’s even more brutal with art since you might be so amazing and revolutionary that people living in your time simply aren’t able to appreciate it.
>>219508006Why didn't the kike that wrote that abhorrent play not work harder instead of trying to get attention for his slop by making it about having Mozart look like a cunt
>>219508684>You’re born with it>It’s luckYou just didn’t work hard enough, kiddo.
>>219508255> First principles, Mozart. Simplicity. Read Marcus Aurelius.
>>219508281Because Mozart had more natural swag than he did. You just can't work your way into having charisma like some coping brownoids believe.
>>219508760That’s a meme, stuff revived by academia is universally bad
>>219508255Too many notes.
>>219508780Fuck off chiang.
>>219508255What? Not enough cadential trills for you? No no, go ahead; add some alberti bass to it. Wouldn't want to compose something that doesn't sound like an 18th century cliche now, would we? No, because God forbid, it may not work.Oh, you're modulating to the dominant again, are you? Thank God it's not different from every other piece I've heard from you.
>>219508760This is bullshit this practically wasn't a thing before deconstruction. For centuries art was just a continuous evolution and le revolutionary who was ahead of his time was an extremely rare exception if at all. Then the 1960s happened and jewish takeover of culture made iconoclasm a virtue and now """"artists"""" don't do anything except trying to outdo each other in being "revolutionary" in the hope that one of them may tickle the jewish critics' fancy
Literally the best pair of titties in all of cinema
>>219508908You’re running out of time.
>>219508296Lol the play was written 5 years after Salieri's death, you gay faggot. The rumors have existed for decades before that.
While he didn't have the natural gifts of Mozart, the movie makes it clear that he could've been better if he worked harder, like Mozart, who literally never stopped working. He just breathed music. But there are a couple instances in the movie where Salieri is working on compositions, and he gets fed up or demoralized and just tosses them aside. Mozart never does that.
>>219508971ENF is kino
>>219508059Luddite nonsense. AIgods won
>>219509099That’s because mozart’s music comes from God, not Mozart himself.
>play Crazy Frog - Axel F
>>219508499It’s too repetitive. It starts to drone on.
>>219508059True and Talent pilled.Artistic skill is like athletic skill.Some are more blessed than others.Is what it is.Talent and hard work will always beat just hard work alone
>>219508281>>219508402>>219508807also mozart banged the singer he was simping for
>>219509135Your chatbot won't get you sex with white women rajneesh.
>>219509716That's not really the problem with it. There are pieces that are more repetitive that are still beautiful. It's just a bog-standard, arpeggiated I-V-I, followed by a a really dull deceptive cadence, before meandering towards a perfect cadence, and that's it. There's no real melody, barely any rhythmic variation, predictable harmony, rudimentary voice-leading, it's just a bunch of nothing. It's not going anywhere.
>>219509037which is bullshit
>>219509827He already promised his chastity to God. He was a volcel
>>219509827>>219510428Also Mozart was already married at the time so doubt it
I just watched this on a plane. Hadn’t seen it in awhile. Still quite good.
>>219508006he was chud codedhe puts in tons of effort and takes his job very seriously but still gets upstaged at every turn by a guy who barely even has to tryand naturally he ruins his life because of his chud rage
>>219508059 I had an argument with clan mate, his fuckinhg argument is if u work hard enough u can achieve anything, be the best. Doesnt believe that everyone has innate ability it can max and some ppl will never become Jordan for exampe, no matter how hard u work. But some retards actually believe this unironically.
>>219508281 Because salieri didnt just made it, he was so good he actually saw how many levels Mozart was above everything and it bothered him that it came to him for "free" while what he had he hsad to "sacrifice" his whole life basically.
>>219508281Salieri was the level where he could appreciate true genius where many couldn’t. Mozart’s own wife didn’t realize how insane it was for Mozart to be able to write down perfectly finished music in a single draft.
>>219508106This
>>219508255uh yeah that's the point, you stupid faggot
>>219508006Because he understood that you ought to work smarter, no harder.
>>219508807Sigma theory has some validity
>>219508684>hard work + talent = beats hard work alone>hard work alone does not equal talent>but talent alone does not mean a person will succeed Therefore talent is useless without a good work ethic. Why do you think The Beatles were so huge in the 60s? They released a new album every couple of months, they were talented, yes, but they also worked really hard. (At least Paul did)
>>219508006He specifically wrote music he knew would please the midwit emperor, unlike Mozart who was defying convention and butting heads with the dumbass court composers.
>>219508006the best example is fighting. if you're an amateur who has sparred or rolled with a pro, that's when you realize you'll never be on their level. not even close, no matter how hard you train. some people are just born gifted at certain things. Salieri could have been chill and learned from Mozart instead of seething
>>219508118Name a pagan classical musician, or any artist from the peak era of European civilization
>>219508059Artistic skill may be innate but people's appreciation of it is highly subjective to the extent where terrible artwork is often popular and praised than those that are objectively beautiful. Picasso was an amazing artist but wasn't truly labeled as a genius or revolutionary until he started painting grotesque abstract garbage.
>>219508889>t.
>>219508971i didnt even expect to see tits in this movie but i was happy that i did
>>219508059they hated him because he said the truth
>>219508006its a made up story tho?
>>219519245Name a classical musician, or any artist from the peak era of European civilization that doesn't have work inspired by a divinity from the greek, roman, or germanic pantheon.
>>219508388Yessense
How do I get into being a musician, bros?
>>219523585if memory serves there was some chinese or middle eastern influenced ones, but for the life of me couldn't tell you who fucking wrote them because I haven't studied classical music for almost 20 years now.mozart's magic flute had highly stylized oriental stage design, but that's only because it was popularhe also had one based off ottoman influence, but it is lost which one it was.there are quite a few, but i'd have to pull the history books out to pinpoint them because they aren't like the top five that you can just recall.asia was very hip during the time of mozart and beethoven, it was considered exotic.
>>219508971She's directly responsible for me love of historical porn/erotica.
>>219523686honestly it requires having no life, not even joking.arrangement, composing, experimentation, individual study of instruments, story telling, charisma. it's basically the biggest nerd shit you can imagine.if you're talking about being in a band, it takes no work. just learn some chords. it's literally that easy.beyond myself, i'm friends with multiple orchestra concert pianist, guitarist, percussion, etc. time and time again when we play in bands across the city/state the music played is equivalent of learning how to walk, vs concert level learning how to competitively run.so if you want to be a musician it starts with learning what a song is, it's a story no matter how shitty the story is.now take the time to understand placement, the human frequency range is absolute from 18hz to about 30khz.Only one instrument can be heard at one individual moment in this range and all the instruments must share this space. so we compose the melody, rhythm of the story and now must arrange these factors so you can hear them all, if only at the briefest of moments to give you a sense of emotion.the simpler the song =/= simpler emotionhowever constantly writing simple songs will negate emotions as it is superficial and shallow.taking time to evolve as a musician allows you much like an adult to expand your emotion.
It's trueThis is why chuds can't create, only corrupt and destroy.
>>219523686Read books about classical form and music theory. You don't become competent at anything without reading books.
>>219514688Jordan who? Michael Jordan?You're comparing a physical athlete to an artist. Artistry is all subjective bullshit.
>>219508255classical forms always recapitulate their themes, retard
>>219508106Salieri unironically became demonic possessed because of envy, just like Satan because he wanted to do something else instead of doing his task.Talent is in a way just God giving you an ability to do a task.
>>219508006You can't outwork a lack of talent. It may be able to get you far in a career but eventually you'll find the people at the top of the field not only work just as hard they have god-given talent that is simply out of your capabilities.
>>219508218>There is only one God and they are noted for their love of music.You mean Apollo?
>>219528092>larpagan thinks Apollo is the only god in his gay pantheon
>>219508006just realized Amadeus and Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo tell literally the same story
>>219528772Apollo is the one who autistically loves music. Most of the others don't give much of a shit. Dyonisos maybe, when he's not drunk.
>>219508006i look like that and resent the god given talents of others like that
>>219529243they are not gods they are angels/demons, you are talking about demons just so you know
>>219530661>they are angels/demonsHow's that supposed to work?
>>219508059bro music is just like comedy, you have to hammer every bit out like iron on an anvil and if you grind enough you'll get funny
>>219508255you're right Mozard but it was just a simple tune which also was meant for the emperor to be able to play, who despite his great potential is still just a beginner
>>219508006>the worst NBA player is leagues ahead of the best amateur basketball player
lol
>>219529243Apollo also doesn't exist, unlike God
>>219535027>god doesn't exist, god doesAre you people really this stupid or do you just pretend to be?
>>219508402He did not try to fix Mozart, he decided to kill him as a fuck you to god. At no point did he ever try to fix Mozart. He hated him from day 1
>>219508388When it comes to the top 1% of anything you are either built different or you aren't. It's the sad fact of life of anyone who worked hard enough to get to the top 2%
>>219508255I wouldn't say anything. I would listen to what he has to play, and that's what everybody did.
>>219508918Too many words, just cut a few and it will be perfect
>>219530797>Insulting the kingNot gonna make it
>>219519183There isn't enough room for every artist not even close. The other court composers feared him because they saw their replacement
>>219535156>my larpagan harp-playing god exists because I feel like the one true God doesn't Iran lost, btw
>>219536167>the one true GodWhat makes your Allah the "one true god" as opposed to Osiris?
>>219536414the same reason you pretend greek or norse larpagan gods are more real than african or aboriginal larpagan gods
>>219536414Jesus died for our sins.I learnt this through Haibane Renmei.
>>219538138Funny thing about that: I don't.
>>219508006You either have it or you don't.
>>219538614why do larpagans go back on their beliefs when confronted with a question they feel uncomfortable answering? I
>>219538718Why do you believe that anyone who doesn't share your particular ridiculous set of beliefs must therefore have another ridiculous set of beliefs?
>>219539620>defends larpaganism>"I-I am n-n-not a larpagan!"every time
>>219539742>defends larpaganismWhere?
>>219539846>Apollo is the only god>why is YOUR jew god real and not mine??inb4 that wasn't real larpaganism
>>219508006This dude lived life on easy mode.mozart was better becuase he had pressing obligations that forced him to be great.
>>219539862Saying that Apollo is a god is not the same as stating a belief in said god. It has about the same ontological quality as stating that Santa Claus wears a red coat.
>>219539882>t-t-that wasn't real larpaganismthanks for proving me right. no wonder pagans lost.
>>219530712because deities like egyptian gods and nordic gods and even prehistoric humans gods were always angelic beings that wanted humans to worship them
>>219539930>beings that wanted humans to worship themHow is that different from your particular god?
>>219535718fuk u
>>219538138You call us larpers while you literally larp as a jew by worshipping a jew.
>>219539976Indo-aryan gods never demanded worship and sacrifice like the foreskin eater does.
>>219540029christians don't larp, they genuinely believe. Worshipping a jew is not a bad thing unless you are a /pol/fag (ironic, since /pol/ is mostly brown).Meanwhile, larpagans are just atheists that dress in togas and wear Thor's hammer-amulets and beg for more muslim immigrants >>219540047>larpagan defends jeets and thinks of foreskinslol
>>219540072saar Visnhu curse you benchod bloody us aryans fuck you I rape your family bastard
>>219540072Your book's savior only applies to jews, it takes larpibg to believe that it applies to you if you are goyish.
>>219540047Depends on the particular god. There were defiitely always those that crave for worship from believers in all religions. And those who don't give a fuck.
>>219540072>Worshipping a jew is not a bad thingThis sentiment is literally why we're at the brink of WW3 right now.
>>219539976obviously because that is not a god, it's a low being that wants your retarded ass stuck in hell with him.Again calling Jesus a jew is ironic since jews hate him so much they prefer Hitler over him.
>>219540105>>219540147>larpagan shows his pro-muslim colorsIran, like paganism, lost. Get over it already.
>>219540105Christ literally said the gentiles are saved
>>219540171>Iran lost>literally are in a better geopolitical situation than beforeSure thing.
The only reason I ever even dreamt of being able to play music was so that I could impress my high school oneitis, once I got over her all interest in being able to play music just vanished, like it never existed.Thank you for reading my blogpost.
>>219540217>>literally are in a better geopolitical situation than beforewe aren't talking about Israel
>>219540285Israel is basically isolated on the world stage at this point. The German president has literally publicly condemned them for their war crimes now. The best you can hope for from Europe is neutrality towards you. All you have left on your side is Humpty Trumpty.
>>219508006Why is everyone in this thread acting as if this movie is a biography? Are you all americans, or just born retarded?Don't answer that, I don't have time for the mentally impaired.
>>219540399yeah, just like that time when Israel stole aid meant for Palestine as they bombarded them a decade back. The whole world was against Israel...for a month or so.It's ok though, maybe this one time it will come true if you believe hard enough
>the larpagan is also a pro-Iran /pol/fagah, European posting hours
>>219508006Funny, I just watched this movie for the first time yesterday. It was kino. I wish I knew Italian/German to appreciate the opera scenes better.>>219508971I couldn't get over how small and cute she was.
>retards ruin an already awful reddit thread/tv/
>>219523686Just let the AI write the songs for you.
>>219541495>I wish I knew Italian/German to appreciate the opera scenes better.The German operas were literally translated to English for the film, anon. It's meant to be more immersive that way, since it also portrays the characters speaking German as speaking English.If you didn't understand what was sung in the "German" ones, that's just down to the "opera effect", i.e. you not being able to make the words out without their natural rhythm and flow.
Creamy
>>219508918lol dis nigga mad af lmfaooo
>>219508006He's literally me at university ~15 years ago figuring how the principles of steel fabrication like my father's job might be applied sculpturally to sound to make really kinetic-sounding autistic music only to get overtaken by a dead bougie ginger tranny with almost identical influences, leaving there no room for progression with the current music technologies for myself to do anything as original again. I feel like I'm living in my own personal remake of this specific film.
>>219508255It wasn't an insult. Mozart wasn't insulting Salieri, he was speaking empirically
>>219540443Everyone knows IRL Salieri was just a normal nice guy. But movie Salieri is the coolest villain in fiction, truly genius, so even if he's not real he might as well be more real than the mediocre real Salieri.
>>219530866pic unrelatedwe're talking about the White Mamba™
>>219543803You can bet that 99% of the people who watched this movie didn't know salieri was prior
>ItalianI can smell the grease from here
>>219546046Anon, most people who watched this didn't even know who Mozart was.Watch any reaction vid on youtube. It's a rarity that one of those morons knows that he was German/Austrian. Or a composer.
Why did the film find the need to invent some rivalry between two composers who were actually friends in real life? You don't see that in films about Beethoven, for example.
Why are people getting offended by the fictional portrayal of Salieri? He’s not going to fuck you bro. Very strange.
>>219546359Because he was literally the teacher of Beethoven, Schubert and Liszt, not just a nobody you can insert into a fanfic. He was a real human with real talent who later became the instructor of some of the best composers in human history.
>>219546264>Why did the film find the need to invent some rivalry between two composers who were actually friends in real life?It didn't. The screenplay is based on a theater play. And that in turn picked up on some wild rumours of the time, which alledgedly do go back to an elderly and demented Salieri actually blaming himself for Mozart's death in some way or another.Both the film and the play, by the way, do not claim or depict that Salieri actually had anything to do with Mozart's death. What you see is Salieri telling a story to a priest, about him alledgedly killing Mozart. But that Salieri is quite obviously an unreliable narrator, not being mentally sound, and being hung up on his own waning popularity. So it really is a film/play about a character making up his own rivalry with another character.
>>219523686get a guitar and start practicing 1 to 2 hours a day, your chords, your scales, your rhythms. in a year you can write plenty of music. I did this at 19 and ten years later im solid
>>219540250music is half the reason i married my true love, bless my dad and friends for guiding me
>>219546046thats kind of the point>>219543803hardly saw him as a villain, his final moments with Mozart was nothing but respect and admiration
Amadeus was kind of lame Jewish subversion, but I can't hate this movie because it's a fun watch. The religious themes are all very basic bitch and stupid and the historical revisionism is almost slanderous, seeing how many take this as a true story. Still, it is glorious filmmaking and every member of the cast nails their roles.
>>219547627>The religious themes are all very basic bitchI don't see any religious themes, frankly. I only see religion used as a plot device and character motivation. Very textual, not metatextual at all.
>>219530712https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimonlesser deities.creations.why worship pretenders/functions? it's like worshiping computer programs rather than The Designer Himself.
>>219508059I actually met a genius in college, brilliant programmer, completely homeschooled and got into college at just 16never studied, never bothered to double check what he wrote because they never needed to, was a huge party guy, and would even do other people's assignments for boozeIts really something else to see someone with such a level of talent make it seem so effortlessly
>>219549506>lesser deities.Okay. And why are they lesser than your god and not the other way around?
>>219519245Tbf the greeks probably had a lot of great music but it's mostly lost to time. Same with most of their paintings
>>219508255>it was written for the emperor>you think you're better than the emperor, huh? HUH?
>>219508971Knows the time period and how seldon women showered then, I but the smell would have been something else>inb4 a virgin spews how they wish they could smell it due to their BO fetish, because they never had the chance to have their nose hairs burned by bad smelling woman.
>>219508971saggy mid
>>219551863but enough about your mother
>>219508402>inadvertently killed himhe was planning on murdering mozart
>>219525204>t. his creation is a signed urinal
>>219549767Apollo's theology/theogony claims that he was created and not self-created or uncreated; he is ontologically contingent on a higher divinity.It is meta-ethical to worship the highest Divinity, which is God of which all gods are derive themselves from (hence the name: The Children of God).The Children of Men are to sort those Children of God; hence why the latter bows to the former.Don't worship lesser gods; get Apollo to work for you as you are of God's Image.
>>219546264The film didn't invent it. The rumors started spreading right after Mozart died. Also, did you even watch the movie? They are friends in the movie as far as anyone knows. Mozart dies thinking Salieri is his great friend. The only people who know he hates him is Salieri and Constanze to an extent.
>>219555065Okay. Apollo was created. Eros Phanes was not. Eros Phanes is basically the principle or creation itself.Hell, you can go even one step above that: Chaos just is and birthed everything else.Are those also lesser, compared to your god?
>>219555663Yes.Get those things to serve you. Or are you so weak that you must worship these functions like a cuck.Make Chaos your bitch. Shine on Nix. Remember Styx. Trample Thantos.You are made in God's Image. Go forth fucker.
>>219555950>Get those things to serve you.And why not get your god to serve me?
>>219556185>demiurgeSo, let's say I have a certain urge. And I fulfuill exactly half of it. Do I then have a demi-urge?
>>219556125He does.You think that your breath you're spirating?Quit stalling faggot and get to work doing your function: get your gods to serve man.
>>219508971it's pretty good. now let's see paul allen's titties
>>219508255better to have a little less than too muchleave the audience wanting for more
>>219556361>He does.Oh, that's nice. Does that mean I'm the highest deity of the mall?
>>219508971>>219541495Liz Berridge is distractingly beautiful with absolutely delectable titties.
>>219556618Don't think I've ever seen her in anything but Amadeus.
unironically started listening to classical music because of this moviehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXxGFDM0v6Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZCfydWF48chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6pOLBqthd4
>>219556700Check out The Funhouse. She goes topless literally in the opening scene.
>>219556836Bit of a strange reason, but good for you.The film did actually make a lot of people look up Salieri's work though when it came out.
>>219556873>The FunhouseSure. Sounds fun.
>>219196924
>>219555950cringe
>oh cool, a thread discussing one of my favourite kinos>half of it is just pagan shitpostingffs /tv/, youre not /v/, at least try and keep it to television
>>219559308We all play games here.
>>219508255Depicting Mozart this way was such a stroke of genius it retroactively changed how some of his music appeared to me for a while lol. I know he wasn't actually like this really but it just feels so natural
>>219542255You're joking. I could not make out a single word kek.
>>219508971>>219523404it's sad because she has a great pair of tits and my penis likes seeing her naked but the theatrical cut is the superior version of the film
>>219559308it unironically makes sense, the thread just like Salieri in the movie is just hatred against God for making Mozart more talented than him
>>219562813Same.
>everyone missed the part where mozart was even more autistic and hardworking in regards to the craft than salieri >to the point that he refused to actually work a day job to have more time to write songs and shit>which was the reason why salieri was able to manipulate him and cause his death in the first placeLOL
>>219508255I hate it so much when someone insults me without intending to. There's nothing you can say or do.
>>219508006he hit his skill ceiling which was just that much lower that mozart's floorit would cause most people to seethe honestly. mozart was just a generational prodigy, simple as. he was wiping the floor with grown ass adults at age 7, that is insane to think about kek
>>219510268kek you sound mad
>>219546264Get the fuck out of here with that Beethoven shit.Fucken dog movies.
>>219570906Beethoven literally sounds like has down syndrome if you listen to him right after Mozart. Listen to the first 30 seconds of this https://youtu.be/6UeMTSHvGUAAnd then listen to thishttps://youtu.be/lbblMw6k1cU
>>219562813>>219563196Easy one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3glswAQNR7cA sweetheart or a pretty little wifeIs Papageno's wishA willing, filling, lovey-doveyWill be my most tasty little dishBe my most tasty little dishBe my most tasty little dishThen that would be eating and drinkingI'd live like a prince without thinkingThe wisdom of all would be mineA woman's much better than wineThen that would be eatingAnd drinkingThe wisdom of all would be mineA woman's much better than wineMuch better than wineMuch better than wineThis is the original:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNhoxzUXPt0Hard mode:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kwTEYNZosEAnd frankly, I can't quite make out everything there either.But at 0:45, that's clearly "forsaken be forver", translated from the German "Verlassen sei auf ewig".And from 1:32 onwards: "If not, through thee, Sarastro's life be taken", a somewhat less elegant translation of "Wenn nicht durch dich Sarastro wird erblassen".And then "Gods of nature, hear thy mother's curse" (very liberal interpretation of "Hört, Rachegötter, hört der Mutter Schwur.").German version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFJiczQZwhY
>>219556909I remember reading he enjoyed a bit of a posthumous career renaissance.
>>219508059>people better than you exist>"must be the Jewish god"lol
>>219574698Well, that's the narrative the elites used to keep the poor satisfied back in the European middle ages: You don't question your lower status in life (or someone else's higher status) if you believe that it is preordained by some allmighty supernatural power. This mindset, plus the promise of a blissful afterlife that would make up for life's hardships, is what kept people from rising up. It still is today, though not in Europe, but America, where people are still indoctrinated rather than educated.
>>219508786>who the fuck is Marcus Aurelius lol?
italians were so butthurt over this movie they tried to make salieri a thing
>Mozart didn't have to work hard, he was just talented.He was playing and composing music since he was four years old, by the time of the film he had been working hard for two decades.
>>219508006God was testing him and teaching him about humility. But he failed the test.
I absolve all of you. This thread is absolved.
>>219523686like the other anon said just start playing an instrument (anything you like, it doesn't have to be a guitar), you don't need to be a pro to get satisfaction from it
>>219576762>you don't need to be a pro to get satisfaction from ithe says, in this thread of all places.
>>219576797Amadeus is about top tier pros, I'm talking about just chilling and playing an instrument for the pleasure of it with no pressure and without anybody setting expectations on you. Being an ambitious professional musician sounds miserable ngl
>>219508006Because Mozart's talent was due to aristocratic breeding. Just look at his family tree.
>>219576922>just chilling and playing an instrument for the pleasure of it>with no pressureYour parents just didn't abuse you enough, anon. That's why you never became a W.A. Mozart or a Michael Jackson.
>>219576992yeah I was lucky
>>219508006You can't grind creativity, there's no gym for your genetic talent.
>>219571091>Beethoven literally sounds like has down syndrome if you listen to him right after Mozartjej
>>219577105That small guy looks completely ridiculous. He'd be better off being lanky or fat than this bad parody of an athlete.
>>219576974>Just look at his family treeNot distinguished at all?
>>219577105>left: became schizofrenic, ate cum, did a threesome with a tranny and another man, got arrested in Thailand, got bogged>right: probably found a loving 6/10 gf and is living the normie life
>>219508817>>219508922That's a very blasse tale, considering the common man couldn't afford art before a certain time and thereby anything "revolutionary" would have likely been destroyed. Our vision of history is merely that which has survived.
>>219577478Anon is pointing at the fact that Mozart's father was a court musician who made it his primary goal in life to mold his son into the genius musician he wasn't able to become himself. An "aristocrat" not in the sense of the hereditary upper class, but closer to the original sense that aristocrats are (or should be) the rulers because they represent the actual cream of the crop, mankind's best and brightest.That said, Mozart's example shows that "aristocratic breeding" doesn't have to be an extreme long term process but can be accomplished within 2 generations by people of suitable stock who are willing to commit to it. See also the success of Lazlo Polgar turning all his daughters into chess masters by drilling them from their earliest age.
>>219581568>See also the success of Lazlo Polgar turning all his daughters into chess mastersAnd yet the Botez sisters make significantly more money with chess than Judit Polgar ever did. And they're also arguably more famous.
