Shagga edition Old >>219734462
How would you like to die, Anon of /got/hotd/dunk/?
The story feels almost complete if you headcanon that the Lannisters won and AFFC is just Jaime's epilogue. The Others and Essos never never mattered anyway.
>>219780089TAOOBA!
>>219780659>It was a fair exchange mother... a dragon for an eye*couple of years later*>NOOOOOOO! GIVE ME YOUR EYE YOU LITTLE BASTARD FUCK REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>219780696what would you have me do?
>>219780089Did they show the mountain clans fighting at the Blackwater battle?
>>219780455With more dignity than this general in the off season.
>>219780455At the age of 80, with a belly full of tendies and Cara Harris' mouth around my cock.
>>219780731Kek
What a great character, I cant wait to see him in future seasons
>>219780455At the ripe age of 115, having just finished watching 100 Years.
Why did AGoT succeed while AFFC and ADWD mostly failed when all of these books were mostly just setups for the upcoming massive civil war(s)?
>>219780659THAT'S TAOOBA!
>>219780089egg is icsh
>>219756610constantinople could have a single inhabitant and it would still eclipse the cannibal city which didn't figure out how wheels work, or how to enter the iron age 4500 years after the old world did it. stop listening to whatever woke californian "historians" telling you about the amazing cannibal "empire" that was wiped out by 150 chad spaniards and some good ol' fashion elbow grease and cunning.
>>219782412meant for >>219758593
>>219780659TAKUAAA
....semoc eH
>>219782885>16:35:00>00h-how did you do that???
>>219782949it's easy. let me show you how.
>>219782949cigaM
>>219782970no. this is how you do it.
>>219782992>:22you got it
Jaime Lannister...gods, now that was a character.
>>219782885!on ,on ,oN
rate my casting choice
>>219780576So the ending of the series is that Jaime just gets hanged and dies?
>>219786998Cavill's already playing DaemonB in the flashbacks. Egg almost leaked it.https://youtu.be/kcoIoeQYTLQ?t=33
It don't matter at all where you've played beforeKingslanding's a brand-new gameTryin' to be a hero, winding up a zeroCan scar a man forever right down to his soulLiving on the spotlight can kill a man outright'Cause everything that glitters is not Lannister goldAnd all the gold in Westeros is in a bank in the middle of Visenya's Hill
rewatching got for the first time since its original run and it's been a fun experience, i know like 70% of what happens but the devil's in the details. I got such chills down my spine when Rains of Castamere started playing at the red wedding. It's haunting in a way that's easy to miss the first time when you don't know what it means.
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>>219788570They should cast Ben Affleck as Bloodraven to make it even funnier
Who is the smelliest Stark?
>>219780455Flay me daddy~
Is the site unfucked yet?
>>219790617Nope, you're still on it LMAO
>>219780089cancel the high septon now!
>>219790544>she's an ewhore nowdidn't she try to do the whole gender fluid grift earlier
>>219790527As Bittersteel you mean
>>219781701luke is icsh
>>219791216No, they should cast Vigo Mortinsen as Bittersteel
>>219791429>vigo the carpathian
>>219791429>Vigo
what sopranos actor still alive would you cast in asoiaf?
>>219791709me
>>219791709>what
>>219791709All the good ones have passed away, unfortunately
>>219791429Vigo would have been good as Aeron Greyjoy.
>>219791005being dressed as a northerner and asking for the protection of the seven is perfectly in character, like how Hegseth LARPs as a Crusader despite belonging to an evangelical church whose pastor says in his ideal country practicing Catholicism would be illegal
>>219791879>Vigo
26 years old. He was a fucking kid.
>>219792488>fucking kidwho did he fuck?
>>219792365>>219791429>>219791597>>219791613I dropped a g
>>219791709Muscles Marinara, the italian strongman would have made a good Thenn or even a bloodrider
has this everbeen debunked? I don't think so.
>>219793716based fellow "Singing int he Rain" enjoyer, Quentin.
why doesn't egg just tell dunk he's being played by a crown rebel? dont they teach him who the rebels are in the targshit school>>219793716im pretty sure most of those films are just ass. i've seen vertigo and it's super boring and lame by modern standards, even comparing to some 70s detective films that kick its ass. im sure 99% of the praise for most "classic" films is just because film students get forced to watch it so its ingrained into the collective brain of the film industry.
Just finished episode 4, Sons of the Harpy, from Season 5.What did I think of it?
>>219794096I feel like most of these aren’t even critically acclaimed for like, technical or innovative reasons. Its literally just pop culture slop from a different decade. Like imagine watching Singin in the Rain and being like “well thank god i’m finally intellectually stimulated” lol.I think the list is a troll because Avatar is also there
>>219794244avat was shopped into an already made meme, you can see it when you close up.Still Avatr is based than most of GOT lol.
>>219794176You are starting to see cracks in the show's quality and notice abandoned plot lines On the upside, you are happy to see Danaerys' story finally getting interesting, but worry that this is as good as it gets
>>219794356Did the jew showrunners get lazy with the writing because they assumed everyone would keep watching anyways because of how popular the show was?
Anyone feel like making one for Dunk&Egg?
>>219794356grrm should leanr to do that, we'd reading game of thrones 3 and watching game of thrones 2 by now.
>>219794552Helaena is /an/.
>>219794547The twitter blowback from Ramsay having rough sex with Sansa and the blowback from the spectacle of the Shame Walk all hit them in the space of like a month. So they adjusted the writing. The cracks were already there but if you want the one thing that made D&D incapable of making a passable ending it was that. Plus thats also the point where they realized the show was too big to please everybody and were like “we gotta get out of here” and tried to defuse the mess by lobbying for movies to end the series.
>>219794356>>219794547the books go to shit after the third one and then the fat man abandoned them, which left the showrunners to write an ending themselves, which wasn't what they signed up for. As uneven as late stage game of thrones can be sometimes people who pretend it's the Room-tier bad are either delusional bookfags who created an ending in their head years in advance and then got angry their headcanon didn't pan out or some kind of hysterical liberal woman who couldn't handle Dany's ending. GoT is still my 2nd favorite show after the Sopranos, warts and all.
>>219794614Well they dropped her bug fascination with the time-skip, now she's just a prophecy teller for the writers.
>>219794732No she’s still at it
>>219794723>then the fat man abandoned themSo these professional writers needed George to hold their hands every step of the way?
>he thought his troll take was good enough to repost from an earlier thread
Why is Theon Greyjoy such a pathetic retard with no redeeming qualities?
Jon connington the most pathetic character In the series
>>219795278He's pretty bold that one time. Shame it was also retarded
>>219795278literal sex pestI like in the books when Winterfell is surrounded, Luwin tells Theon to take the black to spare his life. In response, all Theon can think about is all the wildling pussy he can smash.
>>219791879Why do Danes look like vampires?
>>219795560Gurm is clearly haunted by his Catholic upbringing; he pushes the lesson that your unchecked appetites will ruin you harder than any author I've read.
>>219795278I think a lot of people would never laugh again if they experienced just the emotional pain Theon went through, to say nothing of the physical pain. And yet, he comes through it and recovers his identity as fun-loving Theon. It's really admirable; a lesser ordeal broke Tywin.
>>219795278>>219795444if he had burned winterfell and taken Bran and Rickon for ransom he'd be hailed as a hero of the Ironbornhe's retarded in that he tried to hold an indefensible castle that was strategically unimportant
>>219796078Forgot taking Meera and Kyra as salt wives.
>>219795278Greyjoy genes.
>>219791879Mads is how I picture Roose while reading the books.
>>219795560Check out the Captain Kingmaker theory. Theon's inability to keep it in his pants is what's going to save the Ironborn
>>219796344>check out my gay fan theory that's going to be so important in winds guys!!!This fandom is so fucking lame
>>219796078if hitler stopped at the annexation of sudetenlands and austria he would be hailed as the hero of the german people
>>219796510It's been 15 years without Winds. Theories is all we have
Is it just me or did the costume/armor quality from HOTD S1 to S2 decline massively in quality. These random extras have more ornate armor than most of the main cast in S2.
>>219795278Theon "The Raped" Greyjoy
>>219797101Are these extra in Dunk?HotD dedicates massive amounts of its budget to CGI, and Dunk as far as I know has almost none so you can pay costume designers way more
>>219797309nah hotdoodoo extras, armor wasn't that horrendous in dunk
>>219797350oh in that case idkhotd just sucks ass
>>219797372I'm not the anon that posted the pic I just knew it was hotdoodoo armor cause it looks like shit even in season 1.
>>219795278I don’t know but winterfell apparently has grain enough to last like a five year winter they should have just sent him men
>>219795352Both Jorah and Barristan top him
>>219797101Boltons have knights?
>>219797681The showrunners kind of forgot (never knew) that the North doesn't have a strong knightly tradition.
>>219797681mounted lancerstournament participants being knights exclusively is up to the noble (or king) holding the tourney, though it is notable that tourneys aren't really popular in the north
>>219797681>To be a knight, you must stand your vigil in a sept, and be anointed with the seven oils to consecrate your vows. In the north, only a few of the great houses worship the Seven. The rest honor the old gods, and name no knights ... but those lords and their sons and sworn swords are no less fierce or loyal or honorable. A man's worth is not marked by a ser before his name.
Littlefinger on his knees and begging for his life to Sansa is enough to put me off from season 8.Here's the guy that wasn't afraid of Brandon and challenged him to a duel for Catelyn, the guy who robbed Robert and Jon Arryn until Westeros was effectively broke and instigated a continent wide war by playing Tywin and Ned, fooled Varys Blackfyre the whole time, putting his life and worse on the line at all times, and now here he is begging and crying like a child.
>>219797971>only a few of the great houses worship the SevenWho are the other ones who aren’t Manderly
>>219780089Lol
>>219798258Mostly other houses in the White Harbor sphere of influencePlus some northerners have been knighted for accomplishments despite not going through the traditional means of standing a vigil in a sept (such as Jorah Mormont and Helman Tallhart)
So like, does everyone but Theon realize he’s supposed to be alienated from Baelon so that when Baelon dies and Theon takes his seat they effectively have a Northern Lord ruling over the ironniggers instead someone of their own miserable failure of a culture?
>>219798258I don't think we know for certain besides the Manderlys. Maybe the Whitehills since their sigil has 7 stars but that just speculation
>>219798709whitehills did nothing wrong
>>219798720Asher fucked your sister Gryff
>>219798720
>>219798671>Baelonwho
>>219798825They should have never based this game around the show
>>219798825>>219798756>>219798720>>219798709Why were the Whitehills even working for Roose if theyre sworn to house Glover, and theyre located on the far west side of the north while bolton is on the east?
>>219798891Probably because they needed someone to play the role of your rival that was at the same level as House Forrester.
>>219798891the whitehills are sworn to bolton, not gloverbolton and stark lands border
>>219798258Maybe House Wells since there is a guy named Theodan Wells who joined the Warrior's Sons in Feast. But there are two houses called Wells one in the North and the other in the South so he could be from either of those.
>>219798891The Forresters are sworn to House Glover and the Whitehills are sworn to Bolton
>>219798709I hope we see whitehills in winds. That house has stuck with me ever since I first saw it on the wiki like 15 years ago
>>219799133someone care to explain to me how these two houses have border conflicts with eachother when theyve got fucking winterfell between them
>>219799186Did you really miss Ironrath?lol fucking retard
>>219798825
>>219799198kill YOURSELF you retard
>>219799186>>219799198kek
>>219799250The wolfswood covers a large area dude.
>>219799133>Blackwood Groveohno no no
>>219799186because you somehow didn't see ironrath, the seat of house forrester, borders the whitehill lands. the wolfswood isn't a tiny forest to the west of winterfell, it's an expansive area to the north, northwest and west of winterfell that is home to several houses.
>>219799250Holy shit anon, you're so fucking dumb kek
How does one even extract iron from ice
>>219799347>>219799250
>>219799388Well you got the ironwood trees which are strong, like iron. And they grow in the norf which is known for havin ice even when it’s not winter.
>>219799416House Forrester owns all that land? How can the Whitehills even compete?
BENEATH THE COPETHE BITTER SEETHE
>>219799439No they are just the lords of Ironrath shown here >>219799186
>>219799465see>>219799250they own the wolfswood
Frankly the way the CK3 mod handles it is far better
>>219799482See >>219799322They are lords of part of it but not the whole thing.
>>219799482>Houses Bole, Branch, Forrester, and Woods of the wolfswood are sworn to the Glovers.They own part of it, while the Glovers have domain over all of it besides the part the Starks have.
>>219799482They're *a* house in the wolfswood, sworn to the GloversThe Glovers are basically the northern version of landed knights, a masterly house, and act to help administrate the vast Stark holdings. Tallharts are the same.
>>219799333House Manwoody should have been from Blackwood Grove
>>219799584Yeah, glovers are barely a house, they have “clans” that are sworn to them. Really the forresters should be more like the mountain men of the vale then the lordly house they are in the game. They probably wouldn’t even have a sigil
>>219799516Who so?
>>219799584>Tallharts are the sameFuck Theon for what he did to the Wild Hares those guys were baillin
>>219799627Both houses are in the Wolfswood and both are sworn to House Glover which allows a clear path for conflict that doesnt involve greater house conflict.Whitehill being sworn to House Bolton begs the question of where the fuck House Glover is during all this shit to protect their bannerman
>>219799621Well the northern clans have sigils too, and it's worth noting that only Asha (who is a retard) calls the houses of the wolfswood "clans"
>>219799679That sounds retarded, and pointlessly changes the established lore.>begs the question of where the fuck House Glover is during all this shitIronborn took their seet, anon, and the brothers Glover are, at that time in the game, dead or captive
>>219799679Well putting aside all the bullshit between trying to reconcile what goes on in the books and the show the troubles start after the Red Wedding when House Glover along with many other houses have been fucked up and the Boltons are now Wardens of The North. Anyone who wants to fight them must do so carefully or can’t at all.
>>219799679>where the fuck House Glover is during all this shit to protect their bannermanAsha took Deepwood Motte before the Red Wedding went down. I'm sure any of the House Glover forces still in the North were busy getting there shit pushed in by the Ironborn.
>>219799683>(who is a retard)I'm not sure if there has been a Greyjoy who wasn't retarded. That seems to be a running theme with them.
>>219799871Every time a Greyjoy is born, gods toss a coin, the one side is retard, the other is based.The coin always falls on edge.
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why are the iron isles even allowed to exist anywayswhat do they provide to the realm besides a constant waiting thorn to start pillaging as soon as things go south
>>219799986They are senseis, they teach the green landers the constant vigilance.
Rewatching now. Just started S3. I thought 4 was when it got bad, but that introduction of Selmy protecting Danny from assassins was god awful.
>>219799986They're the lovable wild card the other kingdoms keep around to keep things interesting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYtjpIwamos
>>219800088>assassins give up after one trylol
>>219798825>do everything to appease Ramsay>still get stabbed in the fucking neckJust telltale and their usual bullshit.
>>219799986You could ask the same question about Cersei. Westeros doesn't really have any social problems that would reliably generate large-scale conflict so Gurm needs to have some retards who fuck everything up without anyone lifting a finger to stop them. >>219800133In Robert's case it actually makes a bit of sense though. It's 100% believable that he would spare Balon just so he might get the chance to fight again.
imagine marrying a Baratheon princess
>>219800428Imagine how strong she'd be haha that sounds horrible
>>219800428imagine...
>>219799133King's Grove is where Highpoint should be and why they have a feud with the Forresters at Ironrath.
>>219800753And this is where Ironrath should be
>>219791257season 1 bran is icsh
>>219801201season 1 bran is icsh
>>219800645I think the whole burning Shireen thing can be the point where we all agree that Gurm is actually too edgy. That, and the fate of Tommen and Myrcella. You can just tell he blew his shock value load with what he did to the Starks, so he decided the only way he could keep it up was to start killing cute kids.
>>219801515Shireen WILL survive in the books.Stannis will himself go to the pyre to kill the Others before killing her.She WILL marry my self-insert and rule Westeros with our cute children.
>>219788433He specifically excluded that part.
>>219780696>insecure little bitch continues to be a needy twerpDid you expect something else?
>>219796618Theories are wind.
>>219801733Who even cares anymore? I have zero interest in the books being finished if it ends with King Bran and Queen Sansa. Rank poppycock.
Daenerys going mad queen is canon and if you can’t see that you are low IQ
>>219801890no
>>219801868That's the best part, the books will never come out so I can ignore gurm's retarded headcanon and make my own ending where all characters I like have happy endings and get married, while all the characters I dislike die, get cucked or get banished to Vaes Dothrak or wherever the whores go.
>>219801868lilpinky would've killed sansa if the books had ever been finished, fatman himself admitted he was gonna write her out
>>219801868it should be queen danaerys and king jon with sansa as queen of the norf and tyrion as hand and bran as robin's boyfriend
>>219801929It’s canon son. There isn’t a world that exists where it can’t be canon
>>219801992>queen danaerysof Meereen, while Jon rules the North with queen Sansa at his side.
>>219801515>as if children have never been murdered by evildoers
>>219802004no
>>219802004There is a world that exists. This one. The books are never coming out so it’s not canon. >but da show!George essentially called it fanfiction.
>>219801992Horrendous take, really genuinely horrendous. You should have your right to vote revoked
>>219802030who rules what is not really important. what is really really important is bran and robin are boyfriends.
Shireen Baratheon, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Daughter of Azor Ahai, Stannis Baratheon, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm
>>219802088okay, robin and podrick are lovers then.
>>219800154>try to make peace with Lord Whitehill by marrying his daughter to avoid battle>mother chimps out and tries to kill him which starts battle anyway.That fucking game man. What’s the point of choices in a game if the outcome is always the same telltale?
>>219801890I never liked her much, but I can fully understand why Dany fans would be mad about that, and I don't really see how George can conclude her storyline in a way that doesn't feel like a colossal waste of everyone's time.>>219801971Which honestly makes even less sense than making her queen. What was the point of her being a POV character?
>empires lasting thousands of years>wars lasting thousands of years without either side being completely depleted of peopleGERM is a fucking retard.
>>219802076Do you think he didn’t advise them at all about how it ends? All of the meetings and the time they spent together and what it amounts to is dnd just making some random shit up?There’s no chance of that happening, and Daenerys going mad queen makes sense, it’s poetic.
>>219802141Why would it be a waste of time?
>>219802184no
>>219802039You can't use the real world as an example since George's world is even more fucked up than our own. You are far more likely to starve or get tortured, maimed, and killed in Westeros than at any point in the real Middle Ages. At some point it just gets tiring from a writing perspective and I wonder what the point of it is, like with the maiming of Tyrion and Brienne.
>>219802042>>219802076Sorry man, canon is canon, you can’t just say it’s not canon because you don’t like it
>>219802184>”the show is the show and the books are the books”>”the ending in the books is going to be significantly different”From the fat mans mouth not mine bro. You got a problem take it up with him.
>valar morghulis>Yes, all men must die>...but we are not men. <smirks>Yuuuuck.
>>219802212100% makes sense. There’s nothing about the ending as nailed on as mad queen dany. Literally perfect ending to her arc
upon the weirwood cuckchairbloodraven
>>219802225>You are far more likely to starve or get tortured, maimed, and killed in Westeros than at any point in the real Middle Ages.lmao dis nigger has never picked up a history book in his life. but really most of the stuff about the riverlands during the war reminds me directly of the accounts of the Thirty Years War.
>>219802228>canon is canonThe canon is still at Jon bleeding out at the end ADOD.
>>219802211Her entire storyline is just an agonizingly slow buildup to failure. Six books of her just fucking around, only for it to amount to nothing in the end. Imagine if Renly was a POV character for several books and then he just dies without doing anything; that's what Dany is.
>>219802236The ending will be significantly different but the core of it will be similar.Dany being mad queen is nailed on because it hasn’t been subject to fan service or the showrunners agenda. It is 100% canon, it can’t not be. The whole series has been built around that point. It’s clear to see Daenerys is the main character and this is the twist of all twists
>>219802287>30 year war>middle ages
>>219802319It’s a cautionary tale about the dangers of putting your faith in a charismatic leader, how people’s blindness to the faults of those they look up to leads to the rise of tyrants, and how their followers, once fully on board and commited, will abandon their morals and follow their leader straight into hell and destruction like a cult. The people who refuse to admit dany will go mad are the same people George is trying to warn and critique
>>219802443Do you think it happening 200 years after changes the scale or brutality retard? I brought that up anyways since that's obviously where he got a lot of his inspiration from since the war crimes by both sides were recorded in detail. How about the Mongol invasion of Russia and hungary? How about tamerlane? How about the sack of jerusalem? The sack of constantinople? The english raids in across wales, ireland and scotland? There was tons of fucking slaughters you moutbreathing retard.
>>219802457These weren’t my reasons for why mad is canon but they also make sense.This nigga gets it. Life isn’t sunshine and rainbows
>>219797971I doubt the skin flayers are Seven worshipers
>>219802432>it can’t not be canonSure it can. Because it’s isn’t. The books aren’t done yet.
>>219802483Then why did you mention the war that took place after middle ages if you have examples from them?>there was tons>moutbreathingNevermind.
>>219802457It's a masturbatory tale that George wrote with his pants around his ankles, and I'll never forgive the fat fuck for exposing me to it.
>>219802268I personally find it cheap. Probably why George is taking so long because he realized it is too.
>>219802513They aren’t done and it hasn’t been printed but mad queen Dany will be canon. The books are pointless otherwise
>>219802522Can you read you dumb nigger? Reread my post very very slowly.
>>219802542It’s cheaper than her never stepping a foot wrong and being the bestest queen that ever lived?
>>219802598You can’t deny that her cause is noble though. I mean her insane incestuous blood magicker ancestors raped the kingdom with dragons 300 years ago, so like she’s kinda entitled to do the same you know? That’s how that works
>>219802565What makes you so sure of this? George is a gardener style writer and we’ve already seen that George is susceptible to public opinion with him openly admitting he’ll might change Sansa’s fate due to how popular she was in the show. Why is Danys ending so certain?
Why did the Mad King go mad? Because he was secretly a Seer™ and saw what the whitewalkers would do in his dreams, but didn't know if it was real. But Dany already knows about them, so there's no reason for her to go mad.
>>219802677I thought he went mad because he was assraped in duskendale
Hi /tv/How does Dany’s story end?Interested in learning both camp’s ideas
>>219802781With the highest body count in Westeros, in both senses of the term.
>>219802781Why bother? The books aren’t going to be finished.
>>219802781Show ending but cooked with the detail and care it deserves. Westeros rejects the fuck out of her, she goes Aegon the conqueror mode instead of just returning to Essos where she belongs out of a sunk cost fallacy after a bunch of her close friends die in the Invasion, but then she falls for Jon and she pauses her conquest to deal with the walkers, the world is saved but she immediately wants to continue her war. Jon is pure duty now, cold, the boy is killed, he kills her to spare the realm more war and destruction, then he goes north an exile
>>219802598The “character vows to not be like their parent only to be just like them” trope has been well played out in media. You may like it but I personally find it cheap.
>>219802967People say that dany vows not to be like her father but does she actually? every time she thinks back on Aerys it’s through viserys rose tinted filter, she thinks her father was done dirty, that the usurpers dogs unfairly murdered him, and she vows to avenge him and kill everyone involved with Robert’s rebellion
>>219802932It is another brilliant tragedy in theory, but I feel like it only works, as with so many other aspects of the story, in the context of a trilogy. I stopped caring about her story after the first book and after that I was just rooting for her to die.
>>219802665> gardener style writerYou fucking retards take this shit too literally, you think he was in the board meetings at HBO getting paid millions per episode as a consultant and when asked for ideas he says “well you see I’m a gardener style writer so really I don’t know which direction it will go until I write it” not a fucking prayer he knows what the end looks like just not the specifics, and some of the ideas will be nailed down from before he even started to write.Bran being king might even be canon even though it’s retarded
>>219802781She’s Jons Nissa Nissa and sacrifices herself to help him kill the others.
>>219801868Sansa as queen in the lord or even lady of winterfell is 100% D&D fanfiction lmao. Absolutely no chance that the north gets its dependence AND a northman gets to rule the south as well.
