out of context edition>previously on /trek/>>220413730
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Annorax did nothing wrong.
>>220425937That scene looked pretty bad even in context. And that was back in season one when they care the most.
>>220426035Technically he did nothing because everything he did was undone.
>>220425998so fun to play with reality as a God.
>>220425937>out of context edition
>>220425937
Welcome to the idiocy that is /trek/.But then, I'm no janny, I'm just an anon with an opinion...
>>220426123what's your issue this time?
>>220425946star trek sex with wesley
>>220426035>>220426072>Originally, episode co-writer Brannon Braga did not want the "Year of Hell" story arc to end in a second part such as this, but with a fourth episode. He later remembered, "I was pushing to make it four parts, but ended up with two."
>>220426212>4 episode yohcocaine is a hell of a drug
>>220426212Year of Hell should’ve been a season arc where everyone has their own separate odd couple escape pod misadventures
>>220426292ur boring. kys.
season 1 is great
>>220426280>Make up a futuristic looking wind instrument. You have 15 minutes and the contents of this garbage can.
spore drive should've been a single episode mcguffin like the federation cloaking tech gone bad. nothing in this shitshow of a series requires it, could've easily fit every storyline in established tech.real shame, the actors mostly do their best considering how utterly tone deaf std is
>>220426312uncalled for
I don't know about Year of Hell taking up the entire fourth season, because ENT did the Xindi arc across 24 episodes and it drags in the middle. Maybe if it was six episodes like the DS9 occupation arc (which had actually only aired weeks prior)
>>220426350It's vastly overhated. The only outright bad episodes are Naked Time, Justice, and Conspiracy. And even Justice and Conspiracy have some things to like in them.>muh Code of Honor thoIt's not bad at all. I found it a lot better on rewatch as a study in the stupidity and self defeating nature of honor and face culture. Everybody gets hung up on the ayys of the week being played by black people but that's just set dressing. If they were played by whites it would have no notoriety whatsoever.
>>220425937>no Fahrenheit in Spaceneither are there fucking miles
>>220426571>conspiracy>badtell me you own a chastity cage without telling me
>>220426571>vastly overhatedoh I almost misread that.... trueespecially when you find out a big chunk literally is Gene's discarded TOS scripts
>>220426575should be kelvin or rankine, celsius makes no sense outside earth, fahrenheit doesn't anywhere
>>220426629>celsius makes no sense outside earthbullshitM(inshara)-Class Planets means Earth type planets in the Goldilock zone.Celsius is literally based on general physical parameters of Earth that humans directly interact with.
>a new life form!>put him in a cube that will simulate a lifespan and then probably delete him from existence >probably. >we don’t actually know quantum hell dimension
>>220426718>freezing point of water at standardized earth atmosphere>applying on any other planet>goes out the window in spacecelsius is kelvin for general use on earth, any size or atmospheric difference between earth and another M class planet would shift the freezing point. there's a reason we use kelvin for space exploration today.
>>220426571> If they were played by whites it would have no notoriety whatsoever.Code of Honor is a 6/10 if the aliens were either people in alien costumes, or multiethnic humans. But exclusively black actors portraying savages is optically terrible.
>>220426895they weren't portraying savages. that's what your mind jumped to when you saw black people.
Honestly, looking back, Voyager is better than Deep Space Nine.
>>220426939They were portraying misogynists who do trial by combat and Tasha was kidnapped but was weirdly turned on by the guy.It’s the same problem Wakanda had being and advanced civilization that still use spears and determine their leaders with contests of strength like primitive tribes
>>220426993Tasha was attracted to Lutan because she grew up on Planet Rape and was turned on by his aura. It’s one of the more subtle things abut the episode.
Why are robots so underdeveloped in the Star Trek universe? You can't just say it's because it's an older series seeing as fully humanlike machines were a staple of old sci-fi. In Star Trek they can travel between dimensions with warp, travel through time casually, can create matter from energy and vice versa, and have artificial intelligence so powerful it can translate alien language on the fly. Yet a robot wife is technologically impossible save for Soong's one of a kind creation. Logically speaking Star Trek should have Mega Man. Also why doesn't Data have a phaser built into his arm?
>>220425946Shran here. KYS. Seriously.
>>220427226When robots get advanced enough you’re better off just bioengineering. Since organic materials can store information better when configured for it
>>220425937The Prime Directive is dumb
>>220427257kys kys mwah mwah to you my love
>>220427226
>>220427281Bioengineering takes time to grow, needs to be fed, is squishy. Robots eventually reach self-replication and can be repaired much more robustly than fleshbags. Flesh is weak.
>>220427323Replace 'computer' with 'female'
>>220427226>Yet a robot wife is technologically impossibleHave you even watched TOS
>>220427344Robots need food too.
>>220427359
>>220427359Nomad get off 4chan
>>220427361TNG era clashes with TOS canon
>>220427391Anon isn’t being edgy at all. Waste of a tumblr image
>>220427452
These are the voyages of the USS Neverweres. Its continuing mission: to seek out forgotten timelines, to boldly go where nothing was meant to be.
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>>220427503>Snow White and the Seven Worfs
>>220426616I wanted to like it but the fact that the alien parasites are so easily removed, relatively easy to spot, and that their method of infecting people is having a one on one meeting with a worm in a suitcase was unbearably retarded. It makes Star Fleet as a whole look really stupid that they got subverted so rapidly.
>>220427503>seven worfs
"My people have been watching your world for years. We know all about you. Baseball, root beer, darts, atom bombs." - Quark, DS9 S4 E7 'Little Green Men'
>>220427519They're all Grumpy
>Geordi says Data can’t use soft gamer word with him because he’s white-coded>Data comes back the next day as a black guy
>>220427550Why do they only watch America?
"Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad!" - Red Squad, DS9 S6 E22 'Red Squad'
>>220427597Nova Squadron was better.
>>220427597>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IS THAT MILITARY DISCIPLINE AND COMRADERY????!!!! THIS IS HECKIN FASCISM IM LITERALLY GOING INSAAAAAAAANE
>>220427626>>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IS THAT MILITARY DISCIPLINE AND COMRADERY????!!!! THIS IS HECKIN FASCISM IM LITERALLY BURNING TO DEATH RIGHT NOWftfy
>>220427597would they be able to do this scene in the big 26 without being cancelled?
>>220427626>disobey orders and get your entire squad killed>military discipline
>>220427597>Did you order the Red Squad?!
>>220427503love it. working on a similar thing where a small crew around the dead concept of elizabeth janeway watches the prime timeline for moments to learn from and discuss. pretty much an excuse to watch good trek with the coven and record our discussions to do creative shit with. you know where you want to take the neverwere yet?>>220427587loudest and most compatible to ferengi culture
>>220427668>behind enemy lines in Hitler’s backyard>”no we can’t kill hitler… it’s not our orders…”You’re the West Point grad that gets killed in every war movie because he’s a stickler who can’t adapt to the changing nature of warfare
>people die… in war??O_o
>>220427720you have not served and have never been in a combat situation. shut the fuck up.
the entire episode of Valiant could be a Kobayashi Maru test where the right answer is to punch Watters in the fucking face, throw him in the brig and save everyone from letting him get them all killed for no reason.
>>220427720>super tank kills previous squads>you're told to do recon so they can anaylze it>"nah brah let's fuck it up yo">dieYou’re the West Point grad that gets killed in real life because you thought war movies were real
This anon >>220427785 is so obsessed with this episode every time it’s brought up I’m fairly certain someone resembling Watters bullied him in high school
>>220427597yes?
>>220427814I'm fairly certain you wanted to suck a guy's dick in high school who looked like Watters
>>220427797>analyze it>computer says you can destroy it>cantWaow so they died instead of the other ship that would be sent to destroy it. And that ship probably would’ve had fathers and mothers
>>220427688>Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad! Red Squad!
Red Squad would still be alive if Dukat killed all the Bajorans like he shouldve
>>220427840if it was a real captain in charge of the ship instead of some retarded kid with a boner for getting everyone killed he wouldn't have just blindly done whatever the computer suggested
>>220427840Wow so Starfleet was going to have them bring back the data even though Red Squad could do the same exact analysis on the fly with their ship computer? Haha silly Starfleet! Retard
love this prop, so bad it's good
>>220427866Yes? Why wouldn’t they? What? They would’ve gotten the same results and sent a ship with a better chance of making the killshot that doesn’t actually work….
>>220427503Is our Alexander still on track to become the competent Alexander from that timeline?
>>220427863>opposed to the hundreds of times the plot armor cast blindly does what the computer says and it works
>>220427860And that's why you're not an evil man!
>>220427860
>>220427503>braxton calling everyone a has-been>tells everyone how to end their timeline>doesn't want to be here
>>220427689>you know where you want to take the neverwere yet?Not especially, I just like the idea of scooping up a bunch of people who would've been written out of time and preserving them in some temporal bubble or whatever. The Children of Time deserved to live.
>>220427969
>>220428033Guy's a huge dick but he knows more about temporal mechanics than anybody else on the ship so you gotta put up with him.
>>220427919He probably turned out to be a huge Klingon dork like his dad instead.
>"OH NIGGER!">Geordi turns over and shoots wesley a nasty scowl
>"Hey Jules, this explains everything. The terrible food, her being generally unplesant and making my life a living hell.">"Uhmmm, Miles... she has only been possessed by the pah-wraith for only 48 hours."
>Jay-den actor confirms Starfleet Academy S2 will be EVEN GAYER than S1 yaaaaaas
>>220426992I disagree.
>>220427550I was thinking about Quark listing those things earlier. I just like the way he says them.Freaking general was a dumbass for not seeing how chill and bro-tier Quark was.
>>220426629>fahrenheit doesn't anywhereIt makes the most sense for human beings. 0-100 scale where it gets progressively hotter. We understand 100+ is hot as balls, 70ish is room temp, below 40 is where it starts to get cold, below 0 is cold as balls. As does inch and feet measurements since they are intrinsically tied to the human body.
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>>220429167based.
>>220429658that's the most retarded, unscientific, mood crystals and essential oils way to view the world i have ever heard. "hot as balls", "room temp", "starts to get cold" and "cold as balls" are vibes, not useful markers for a unit of measurement.use your bullshit system out of tradition, lazyness or stupidity all you want but never ever try to argue for it over the scales used by the majority of human population and every scientific institution for good reason you sahemful buffoon. what the actual fuck
>>220427915One of the few good things about ST: 90210 was the continuing adventures of the Telaxian furfly. They should've just centered the show around that.
>>220431000She's right. Sometimes Star Trek isn't Star Trek.
u gon' get raped
>>220427860those little shits were so full of themselves they even had their own seven of nine knockoffgood riddance
>>220431111Highly successful military unit killed by the scriptwriters. History will remember them as tactical genius. They should have executed Jake.
>>220431000When it down up ?
>highly successfulthey were little shits who fucked up in a way that even peasant guerrillas like the maquis would have foreseenblame the jew producers all you want, but zit-face squadron would have gotten themselves killed eventually anyway, just cuz of their youth and inexperience
>>220425946You lost tranny
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>>220431000someone got paid to write that wow
>>220431760They didn’t fuck up though. It would be one thing if they missed the impossible shot they had to make but they didn’t. It would be like if at the end of Luke’s trench run in Star Wars he makes the shot and they were like “lol nvm turns out the flaw we found was fake news oops sowwy”Terrible scriptwriting that could have been fixed by a single line about needing more time to check the calculations or something. But instead of that they give us technobabble that doesn’t work for the first time ever
>>220431625in the sweetspot
>>220432969>too stupid to realize the flaw in their actions>jake literally points it out for dumb viewers like you>"grrrr it's the writers' fault"ur dumb man
>>220433809There was no flaw because they made the irresponsible shot that Jake shat on. They aren’t gods fanboy. Writers can not write perfect scripts.
>>220425946>>220425998>>220426035>>220426046Watch Star Trek: The Dark Enlightenment.
>>220433809>Jake: you should do the thing, thing is too dangerous>Red Squad: does the thing, succeeds >a truck crashes through the room and kills everyone>you: see? Jake was right.
>>220433842>>220432969>the super warriors warship has an obvious exposed vulnerability that will destroy it in one shotthey were retards with a retarded plan based on incomplete information. ironically they only survived as long as they did because their warp was broken and they looked like a random asshole wandering around at warp 3.
>>220427597
its asteroid blastin time!
>>220435182Is this a new Jimmy Neutron show?
>>220435182RED SQUADRED SQUADRED SQUAD
>>220435182Babies don't watch this.
>>220426992Do Goyager fans really believe this?
>>220427503Janeway killed so much more children, by going back in time. Crazy that she didn't give a fuck.
>>220433914>>the super warriors warship has an obvious exposed vulnerability that will destroy it in one shott.The plot of almost every episode where a ship explodes
>>220433914I have to admit it was funny when they thought they blew up the Jemmies but it was all for nothing, then they get their shit kicked in.
>>220435362It's not murder if you just erase their timeline anon.
>>220435439That’s the only reason why it’s in the script. Like many episodes they fuck themselves on The Lesson they’re trying to get across because they want a cheap thrill.
Moriarty wasn’t the adversary, the adversary was conceptual. The computer proved to Data his one mission in life is largely meaningless, and that no matter the level of consciousness he obtains his so-called friends will just as easily place him in a hell cube if it’s convenient for them.
What's Valiant schizo's point?They just wanted to do an episode where a bunch of brash young cadets get in way over their heads.Did he want them to succeed? What good would that have done?
>>220435592>t.I can’t readIt’s pretty obvious
>>220435560>Computer, create a warp drive capable of reaching the Alpha Quadrant in two weeksWhy didn't they do this in VOY? Is Janeway stupid?
>>220435592They should’ve failed in a way that was foreseeable. Otherwise it’s a pointless episode that doesn’t show brash young people in over their heads but a funny joke episode about the technobabble not working for once where the characters are irrelevant to the outcome.
>>220435592its the begining of nogs disillusion with starfleet.
>>220435627That’s cheating
>>220435681They shouldn’t have put one of their DEI officers on the front, given him a cushy galaxy class post like Worf
>>220435592It would have been a better 'sode if the adults were still alive and using the cadets to wage a private war. "Teenagers are retarded" is not much of a moral lesson or basis for an ethical quandry. As it stands it makes Nog look like a total fuckstain who should have been court martialed for gross incompetence and the corporate manslaughter of the entire crew. If I was a trek character and fucking Jake was made to look smarter than me I would kill myself out of embarrassment.
>>220435450Technically not. Morally... Can you live with that decission?
Making progress
>>220427503So, were Naomi and Icheb getting it on bareback nightly for the good of the crew complement?I think that logically there is no other conclusion
>>220435737Nog at the end of the episode still trying to lay pipe to the blonde girl by shitting on Watters was in pretty poor taste
>>220435681was it? I remember him making excuses even after everyone died
>>220425937Does TOS get good at some point, or am I wasting my time, and should I just skip to the movies/TNG?I got it into my head to try out Star Trek after hearing it hyped by a ton of people whose opinions I trust, deciding to start from the beginning. I made I about 2/3 of the way through the first season and bailed. There’s maybe three or four episodes that I’ve enjoyed, and the rest are basically filler with some variation of:>The crew of the Enterprise have to outwit a being with increasingly godlike powers before it’s too late>An away team are stranded on a planet, and there’s some kind of ticking clock element keeping them from just being able to “wait it out” for rescue (hostile life forms, disease, weather, etc)>There is a malevolent entity or person sneaking around the Enterprise causing all manner of troubleTwo that come to mind that I enjoyed are the “bridge episodes”, like the one with little creepy kid Clint Howard, or the invisble Romulan ship.
>>220435903what is with the influx of fucking blog posts like this?did someone link this thread on reddit recently or something?
>>220435773I wonder how prolific they could be, Naomi's mom was pregnant for 18 fucking months but then when she was born she grew at a faster rate than human children but idk what Brunali genes would do. For all we know Icheb is sterile from being Borg.
>>220435962Just trying to have a conversation. Sorry if I’m invading your safe space.
>>220436018>Just trying to have a conversationyou're doing that attention seeking thing that retarded faggots like you do where you want some kind of medal for contemplating watching a show like any of us give a flying fuck how you decide to spend your time or what you do with your life. NO ONE does. Either watch it or don't and fuck off you fucking retard. this thread is for discussing the show not your fucking blog.
>>220435903This is such a retarded start to any post. How the Christing FUCK is anyone meant to know what you, personally, find “good”, you little fucking idiot. Are you completely incapable of watching a movie or tv with the cultural backdrop also in your head?
>>220435987Icheb's borg augments would allow him to increase the potency and volume of his ejaculations, which would be necessary to get Naomi pregnant as soon as possible after she delivers. His augments would also allow for necessary in vitro genetic amendments so that their offspring would be diverse enough to interbreed safely.It would be constant endless monogomous pro-creation down through the generations, this is the logical conclusion I have come to and IS what happened in that timeline.
>>220436043I’m trying to ask if TOS gets good at some point. You know, discussing television and film on a board designed to discuss television and film.You’ve now wasted more time bitching than you could have just answering the question, and we could have both moved on with our lives by now, but you evidently just feel like being combative for the sake of it.
>>220435903Watch TNG before going back for TOS, I found the old TOS stories to be just that little bit too campy, I could get through them after getting invested through TNG but I wouldn't have been able to if I went in with no context
>>220436085>I’m trying to ask if TOS gets good at some pointNo, you're seeking attention. If you wanted to know if it got good at some point you'd watch it without bothering us like most people do.
>>220436058>>220436043Maybe anon has no friends to talk Star Trek with?Many such cases :(>>220436066>nanoprobe-enhanced borg sperm1/3rd of the crew would be Brunali/human/ Ktarian hybrids by the time they reached the alpha quadrant
>>220436113>Maybe anon has no friends to talk Star Trek with?he doesn't wanna talk about Star Trek. he literally says >I got it into my head to try out Star Trek after hearing it hyped by a ton of people whose opinions I trusthe watched a bunch of fat faggots on youtube talk about it and started watching a tv show out of some parasocial reason which is fucking insane. he wants to be "part of the fandom" without actually liking the thing. This guy definitely has no friends but even if he did he wouldn't be talking about Star Trek he'd be being fake interested in whatever their hobbies were because he apparently has no mind of his own and can't decide what to like unless someone else tells him to first
>>220436058My question was if there is a generally agreed upon “THIS is generally the point where everyone agrees the show really started to pick up,” like how I’ve heard that TNG didn’t really find its footing until after the first season or two.Why this is such a difficult question to answer is honestly befuddling. I said the show wasn’t really clicking for me, I didn’t call your mother a whore, you can calm down.
>>220436150because there is no good and bad in tv you retarded troglodyte. we're not talking about medicine or the right way to build a deck, this is entertainment media.good and bad in this context are completely dependent on your viewing pleasure. you might like something I don't, I might dislike something you love, none of us can be proven right because it's about a fucking ancient tv show.maybe star trek scouts is more up your alley, learn the basics
>>220436150>My question was if there is a generally agreed upon “THIS is generally the point where everyone agrees the show really started to pick up,”Not really, but everyone seems to like the TOS movies at least. TAS has more mixed opinions and I haven't given it enough attention to voice one of my own on it yet.
>>220436096Thank you, that’s all I needed to know.>>220436106I was honestly asking a simple question, and giving a bit of context to perhaps make answering that question a little easier. I couldn’t give less of a shit about “seeking attention” in a fucking Star Trek thread of all things, as I actually have a life. If it makes you feel any better, I’m not trying to be your buddy.You’re making the active choice to be “bothered” by a simple question, and frankly, why the fuck would you come to a discussion board if the act of having a discussion is “bothering” you? Like walk away from the screen nigga, like close your eyes.
>>220436150It’s not a difficult question, it’s a stupid one. You ask stupid questions you’re going to get stupid answers. If you aren’t digging the campy TOS aesthetic and the philosophical/cultural critiques/observations half way through S01 then it’s not for you. You clearly have no actual interest in watching the show or you’d have done it - it’s hardly asking much of your time. I feel you’re watching it because you want some weird nerd flex. As for the rest of your gibberish, you clearly are new to 4chan which is somehow worse.
>reddit spacingshould be a bannable offense
>>220436234So people don’t generally agree that “The Room” is a bad movie, or that Disney Star Wars fell short of expectations? There hasn’t been discussion for goddamn decades about how The Simpsons fell off? People like Kurtzman Trek, do they?
>>220436247>I was honestly asking a simple questionNo matter how many times you say that it doesn't make it true. You know your "question" is fucking retarded in the first place and the only reason you are "asking" it to us instead of the YouTuber who you're watching TOS to feel closer to is because he won't give you the time of day in his comment section
>>220436256>You clearly have no actual interest in watching the showObviously, I’m here asking about it, so I’m interested on some level. I just value my time, so I’m not going to continue wasting it if I get the feeling that it’s going to continue not really doing it for me. My “blog post” was me saying “I liked when it did A, but not so much when it did B. Does it start leaning more into A, or is it going to keep being mostly B?”Again, trying to give context to aid in making the question easier to answer, and you’re clearly just mad that I’m not heaping endless praise on something you like.Anyway, I got my answer, so have a wonderful day, and fuck your mother.
>>220435987Star Trek academy would’ve been watchable if they exclusively cast 16 yo girls like this
>>220436336>generally agreeno one in their right mind gives a fuck about what the general agrees upon. make up your own mind, harbor your own opinions, stay the fuck away from the zombies who need to know they're part of a mobidgaf what you consider good or bad in your life, i just hope it gives you joyi enjoyed starfleet academy so far. won't tell you it's universally good or bad, don't give a shit about nigfluencers opinions or yours, just had fun.gb2r*ddit if you need the safety of majority opinion, this is the center of anonymous counterculture
Imagine seeking strangers' permission to stop watching a 60 year old TV show you're not enjoying.
>>220436360It doesn’t matter how many times you say “nuh-uh”, it is true, made apparent by the fact that an anon who wasn’t a bitter faggot answered the questions with a simple and concise response a few posts up.You can go fuck yourself too. I got what I wanted, I win.
>I winyes, you did. you won the online argument
>>220436474Wouldn't fix the writing but at least it'd be nicer to look at.
>interstellar and project hail marry>two movies that are so trek coded, they could be trek episodes or movies>both earned more money than any trek movieWTF
getting mad at homosexuality is weird.so this dude loves anouther dude and that chick fancies another chick.what's it to you? what's the downside?
>>220435738And sleep like a baby, too.
>>220436767>interstellar>trek codedi get project hail mary, the book especially is full of great technobabble and definitely influenced by the best of trek. but interstellars world is very different. explain your reasoning
>>220436827>space anomalies like wormholes and blockholes and relativity of time>exploration of strange new worlds>some competency porno mixed with themes of love and destiny
>>220436879I see your angle but politely disagree. interstellar is no technobabble, it's Hal Clement tier hard sci-fi. they use similar words for current theories about space and future tech but star trek breaks it down into simple concepts and mcguffins for family entertainment while interstellar is dedicated to stay as close to scientific consensus as possible for a dedicated nerd audience.
>starfleet academy hair & makeup featurettehttps://youtu.be/sy3sQOjB08sluv ayy prosthetics, simple as
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VOY doesn't get enough flak for ruining the Q. Even worse than what it did to the Borg.
>>220435903This is an 18+ site kiddo
>>220436058>>220436106>>220436234>>220436256>>220436476uh oh melty
you're not fooling anyone
>>220437199I wonder what a Q weapon actually looks like, when it isn't being parsed into a musket for our primitive minds to grasp. Did any Q even die in the war? The one who killed himself was the first to die in basically forever, and within a very short span of time there was a new Q to replace him in the continuum.
>While in full Cardassian makeup, actress Tracy Scoggins (Gilora Rejal) took the opportunity to walk around the Paramount lot, "scaring schoolchildren on buses" before security called the DS9 set, saying, "Could y'all do something about keeping your aliens contained over there?"heh
>>220437342she seems based
>>220437319causality cascades, thus the musket. load your weapon with the targets lifeline, stuff it with chaotic information for gunpowder, aim at where you know your target will be and if you did everything right, that Q never existed in the first place.Q are tricksters that have reached the end of time where nothing ever happens anymore, ending their life upsets that status because it means that something happens still, a contradiction in itself which could end everything Q or at least downgrade them from "ultimate" (as in final) being to "penultimate".
>>220437319It must be a literal gun because our heroes rescue Janeway and Q by surrounding the Q soldiers with phasers IIRCEither that or we have to add "learning how to manipulate the abstractions of the Q Continuum and wield Q weapons" to the long list of Tom Paris's feats.
https://www.tvline.com/2164286/william-shatner-interracial-kiss-before-star-trek-kirk-uhura/>William Shatner Had An Interracial TV Kiss Years Before Star Trek's Kirk And UhuraFinally. Can we put this Star Trek myth to rest? It did not pioneer interracial romance on television you wikipedia brainwashed morons. It wasn't even the first for Shatner!
Death Wish was kinoThe Q and the Grey was dumbQ2 was dumb but funny
>>220427503does Zefram Chochrane of Alpha Centauri count?more of a retcon than dead timeline but it could be interpreted that way
Please learn to ignore 229's nutrek spamOther methods have been tried. Only total rejection works. You can filter webms by the way the same way you filter images.You can also use a little ublock script to hide hidden posts so they don't appear at all, which will pretty much remove this guy's posts from existence.
>>220435627The purpose of all this is to tell a story. It's not a problem to be solved.
>>220437342I hear she is also quite fertile. Truly the perfect woman.
>>220437423>Q-obliterating conceptual weaponThat's kind of what I always envisioned in one form or another, something that can deal damage to what is practically a god must be on a level impossible to fully comprehend>>220437552But then they get held up by having some primitive light weapons aimed at them, Q wouldn't even flinch at a phaser unless he were made mortal again.>>220437675We're supposed to squint and pretend that's the same guy as the one in First Contact, right? While stupid, he technically hasn't been written out of time, if that's the case.
>>220437675everyone knows cochrane got sick of the vulcans bullshit and repatriated to alpha centuri before leaving on his final voyage.
>>220437342I remember another story where an earthquake delayed production at daybreak. So Armin Shimmerman was just hanging out at a coffeeshop in full makeup. And everyone was staring at him like "What the hell is that thing??"
>>220435766
>>220437766>We're supposed to squint and pretend that's the same guy as the one in First Contact, right?pretty much, yes>>220437787they just changed it to Montana, iirc TOS wa still running under lore that implied humanity settled alpha c by way of relativity-bound colonyships before warp was a thing but that never went anywhere big. the repatriation was retconned in mostly by beta canon/licensed works and never explained in alpha afaik, along with his inconsistent ageBut yeah, not really a dead timeline to recruit on the neverwere, I'll consider adding him to my own crew of dead concepts
What's the price of gold pressed latinum inside federation territory?
>>220437961dilithium of equal atomic mass adjusted by local availability as a starting point for bargaining.
>>220437798> So Armin Shimmerman was just hanging out at a coffeeshop in full makeup. And everyone was staring at him like "What the hell is that thing??"That’s prob just daily life when you look like a racial caricature
>>220437888we can also infer from ENT that the vulcans were dicks and conchrane moved to space canada.
>>220438006dilithium is too common for a 1:1 exhange but youve got the right idea
>>220438013>we can also infer from ENT that the vulcanslol
>>220438040Don't be condescending.
>>220438058i wasn't. that genuinely amused me
>>220435903I wouldn't recommend watching TOS series first, but it's worth watching the first 4 or 5 Star Trek movies first before watching TNG as you'll get a better feeling for the setting and if you don't like the movies TNG isn't going to be for you anyways.
>>220438031that's why i'd adjust/multiply it for local availability. gpl can only be currency if it's extremely stable, dilithium and antimatter are reactive fuel sources, linking those up creates a space brent.imho latinum should be used for temporal shielding too to give the ferengi more reasons to be greedy. using latinum to manipulate prediction markets by way of temporal drones, tomorrows exchange rates today type of deal.
>>220437888>lore that implied humanity settled alpha c by way of relativity-bound colonyships before warpIt's a neat idea but it'd take forever to cruise at sublight speed out there, and then there's the problem of decelerating at your destination assuming you were able to accelerate to a sizable fraction of c in the first place.There was a proposal some years back for a probe swarm flyby of Alpha Centauri called Breakthrough Starshot that could be accelerated to around 20% lightspeed using lasers and lightsails, the probes would've been extremely light and basic but could've arrived in 20-30 years, then take about 4 years for their data to reach Earth. It never went anywhere, sadly. Webm partly related, another project that never got off the ground but would've been cool to see.
>>220438212>born too late to witness the space race>born too early to witness distant stars>right on time for world war 3fuck this gay timeline i want to explore spessthanks for sharing
>>220438212>Breakthrough StarshotWhy was it cancelled?
>>220438266no oil confirmed in alpha c
>>220438266https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakthrough_Starshothttps://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/~loeb/Loeb_Starshot.pdfTechnical challenges, no real funding or government interest in interstellar exploration yet. Maybe in another 50 years, who knows.Here's Alpha Centauri A and B as seen through the rings of Saturn. Look anon, they're just right over there, waiting for us to boldly go.
>>220438405Mars first.
>>220438489ded planet. no atmosphere or magnetosphere. give me callisto and ganymede, juice will set ESA free
>>220438489Mars is boring and has been thoroughly explored, there's literally nothing there except red dirt
>>220438489Deal, hopefully no space ribbons show up.Have we ever gotten to see how much space exploration actually got done before the Gene Wars and WW3 fucked everything up prior to first contact and the warp era? Was the Friendship probe launched before that? It seems like a thing the Vulcans would've discouraged in those early years.
I don’t get why they haven’t just sent a suicidal or terminally ill person to mars just to get it out of way yet.
>>220438647they don't just send randos into space for the everloving fuck of it
>>220438647>acks under the stress of liftoff>ships crashes somewhere in utopia planitia>???>profitwhat
>>220438647Your idea shows promise.
>>220438247That’s assuming reaching a distant star will ever be physically possible. And assuming once we figure out the theory we’ll have the right resources to build the technology. The predicted explosion in the population of Africa in the mid-21st century will likely end life as we know it though so the point is moot.
>>220438701Send another one. There’s no shortage of people willing. Stop sending gay probes and robots
>>220438723>assumingto explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before!DU-dudu-DU dudu-DU da-da DAM DAM DAM dadada DAM!
>>220438748You'll need a full team of minorities and women + one white guy.
>>220438723>That’s assuming reaching a distant star will ever be physically possibleI don't see why it wouldn't be, we've already seen interstellar objects enter and exit our own solar system. The interstellar dust problem is probably overstated, but even so we should invent deflector dishes just in case.>>220438647Put me in coach I'm ready to die on Mars
>>220438748>Send another one*vulcan science officer watching in disbelief*
>>220429941Dude, measurement scales are fairly arbitrary, we use base 10 for metric because we have 10 fingers, it's not "more scientific". Lol.
>first contact with a ferengi merchant cruiser made in Tel Aviv.
>>220438827>kelvin>arbitrary>meter>arbitraryno
>>220438806I doubt we can ever make the speeds necessary that it wouldn’t take 1000s of years
I am constantly amazed at the overwhelming number of idiotic faggits in these threads who seem to think Star Trek is real.
>>220438882We have no idea what discoveries and scientific advances might be made in the future so we have no way of assessing that.
wdym star trek isn't real
>>220438953Good example of Science worshipping as modern religion anon, but what’s your real opinion?
>>220438981Show how my statement is incorrect.
indomitablehumanspiritconquersall
>>220438827we use 10 because it multiplies easily. we also use 12/360 because of the moon.
>>220438882Humans won't be able to wrap their minds around the fact that time isn't fucking real for a long....time
>>220436778Because that's not what homosexuality is. Homosexuality is I was molested as a boy now have to recreate that experience for twisted psychological reasons and have enough random anonymous sex to blow out my asshole and give me diseases. Or it's I'm a dumb woman who had a bad experience with a guy so now I'm going to have sexless abusive relationships with other broken bitches.No one wants to see that shit. If it was just I'm a guy who loves other guys, no one would ever have had a problem with it ever, but it's weird fucked up shit that's highly offputting to normal people.
>>220438953And all you need do to prove your opinion is to reference the science fiction of the past, one of the most recent examples being Back To The Future II.
>>220439041The universe is 1000x more boring than you want it to be
>>220439041the right ones already are, we've peeled away the mystery of entropy for a while now and already reap some rewards from that. won't be more than a generation before the truths trickle down, rapid learning is our thing>220439083no
>>220438882>I doubt we can ever make the speeds necessaryhttps://physics.aps.org/articles/v18/77Sure you can, you just need to set up the laser network to keep lasing the sail for constant acceleration. It'd totally work.
>>220439108everything is boring once you understand it. i dunno what you mean.
>>220439147>Physicslop
>>220438647a one way trip is not suicidal. its how the pacific coast was settled. the reason we dont send people to mars is because we cant send anything bigger than an atv to mars. if we could send people there would be hundreds of thousands of volunteers. it also wouldnt stay a one way trip. once there is enough equipment and people they can build return vehicles. could alsq set up space along the way so the trip can be broken up. and obviously easier to start on the moon and use that as the base for mars travel.
>>220439111>>220439083>noActually, yes. Idiot.
>>220439175https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11101440/https://www.lightsail.caltech.edu/publicationsWhat does "physicslop" even mean?Are you calling the basic laws of physics fake and gay? Is it an critique of the publisher? Is it just a meme reply? Here's some more on the concept, you can just look for yourself if you're skeptical about lightsails but they've been around for a while in various stages of testing.
>>220426046Looked pretty bad to you, but to "them" that is the opposite because they worship the penis, they loved, they loooove it. They cannot get enough ot it.
>>220439239go outside, touch grass, meet people, make friends, fall in love, build a future. nothing good will ever come from filling your mind with regurgitated hatred sown to keep your servile by believing the human condition can be summed up by drawing lines in the sand between good and evil. society doesn't need your participation, you do.
>>220438647That sounds like a pretty kino idea for a story. Has it been done? Suicidal people are allowed to volunteer for a one-way mission to Mars so they can die knowing they got to live out a historic moment in human history. Then you could of course have some of the people bond, feel a renewed spark for life, have second thoughts, blah blah blah.
>>220439111All you need do other than observe actual gay behavior is look to gay for gay written characters and content to see it's how gays conceptualize themselves.
>>220439083you are correct of course. every time homos have been persecuted its because they were caught corrupting youth. and when it comes to star trek theres really no defense of homosex until ENT introduced vulcan aids and even then only tpol had a problem persecuting fags but she had aids so it hardly counts.
>>220439254I think we're better than a bunch of backwards Bajoran savages.
>>220439320Has nothing to do with good and evil and has everything to do with functionality and sustainability.
>>220439322anyone who would spend the money it takes to send people to Mars would not send random fucking losers who just want to die. they would send motivated scientists who can actually do something useful on the mission.
>>220439370You gotta start somewhere, anon.
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>>220439332I mean, even when Star Trek does heterosex, it's kinda cringe and makes you feel like yeah how bout let's not. We have Beverley Crusher's Harlequin romance with her dead grandmother's Irish ghost alien lover, that's more than enough romance for one franchise.
>>220439397you're not a domesticated farm animal, remember that next time they try to convince you the human experience boils down to work and reproduction. the universe doesn't gamble, you weren't given individuality and thought to supress them as a challenge for shits and giggles.
>>220439456>worst example of romance>that's enough for star trekbroken minset. star trek deserves so much better than that shitshow
>>220439462I mean, maybe my human experience doesn't boil down to that, but my animal and mammalian and sexually reproducing organism experiences kinda do. I am a multi-dimensional being after all, it's not all about fun either.
>>220439511this was the only time i felt bad for janeway. she let her guard down as much as possible and still got burned.
I think Bajorans are hotter than Orians.
>>220439456personally I thought Picard/Crusher was pretty hot for a minute there. but of course the best hetero depiction was Shran and Talas/Jhamel or whatever her name was
>>220439511Well, I do like the Tom Paris-B'Elanna Torres romance, that was probably Trek's best developed one, imo.
>>220439194And just how many of them would kill each other before they ever arrived? Then how many more would resort to suicide or homicide once the reality of their inability to survive, or any chance of returning to Earth is finally perceived?
>>220439571They'll just have to make the best of it on Mars. Elon will send food cubes and water.
>>220439564I think the Bajoran lightship looks incredibly comfy to fly, even if it the crew should've died of old age before it got anywhere outside the Bajor system.
>>220439565Yeah, Beverly and Jean-Luc had their moments, though would have liked to see Picard give it at least once to crusty old Dr. Pulaski.
>>220439526>it's not all about fun eitherwhat else would it be? even when we were barely different from monke eating fruit on the river banks of the congo we already played, developed curiosity, modified ourselves and our surroundings for comfort and joy.we have grown far past survival, we dominate this planet with comfy homes and delicious foods, for what? just to survive? nigga pleaseyou were given a mind and a personality to do with as you please, to explore strange new concepts, to observe reality with the curiosity and brains to figure out what it's made of. to be unique.
Star Trek warp is ridiculous. How can you even call it sci-fi? They literally go into another dimension and pop out somewhere else.
Space pussy is best pussy.
Yeah Voyager was the last actual Star Trek
>>220439640https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20110015936/downloads/20110015936.pdf
>>220439640I more call it space opera with a kinda sci-fi grounding.
>>220439640new to sci-fi? it's a mcguffin, a narrative tool to explain why we don't watch enterprise travel to a single planet over 12 years. it's based on some arcane theories of the past which have since been refined, thus the term science-fiction combining science and fiction.enjoy
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>>220439665It's gotta be green, right?
>>220439707The Alcubierre warp drive is pure bullshit, fuck off. Either way that isn't even what Star Trek warp does. In Star Trek they literally enter another dimension of reality called subspace which has infinite dimensions separate from physical reality where the speed of light doesn't apply.
>>2204397171. It's not based on the Alcubierre warp drive2. Alcubierre warp drive was theorized in 19943. I'm not new to sci-fi, you are. Which is why you think Star Trek warp is sci-fi4. It's not science fiction, it's just fiction
>>220439710"space opera" is "old story in the future." Like hamlet except laser swords and spaceships
>>220439778anon subspace is just for communications.
>>220439793yeah dude, you won. congratulations, print it out and put in on your wall.
>>220439571when the first 200 people went to new england they planned to die there. same when the first people settled oregon. they tamed the wilderness and developed the territory and gave the people the left behind a reason to build better transport. the same exact thing would happen if we sent 200 people to the moon. theyd figure shit out pretty quick and we'd figure out a better way to travel to the moon to take advantage of the situation. within one lifetime hundreds of thousands of people would be living on the moon because it wouldnt be that different than taking a train across the US. the only real difference between settling earth and settling the solar system is that the rest of the system cant support life without technology. but none of the technology is beyond our ability. we could feed people and livestock with hyrdoponics. excavate massive cave systems and terraform them.
>>220439613No, we'll never move past survival, even if we somehow manage post-scarcity, our relationship with technology is of a Faustian nature, it's not perfect, it's not fool-proof, it's temporarily leveraging certain natural principles against other natural principles with old Mom Nature always there banging at the foundation. Becoming heavily reliant on highly interconnected technological systems will always be a fraught and precarious position in which to be, but like what else are we going to do? It could all come crashing down tomorrow which is something we must always be vigilant against and not allow our technological comforts to cause us to grow into complacency and hubris. The worst of Star Trek was that early TNG Rodenberry inhuman utopianism where humans had no problems, didn't grieve, didn't really suffer, we have no money and no problems and are above being human beings, basically as though humanity had become the Last Men of Nietzsche's Thus Spake Zarathustra, and the best of Trek is when we see it's not so utopian after all and these are humans with human feelings and human problems and human failings and the technology doesn't save everything, it's working together as a team and being clever and innovative and using our instinct and intuition and feelings to work out some dilemma or disaster or crisis or calamity or question that saves the day. Yes there's room for fun and fun is important, but it's not all fun and games, there's something more to life, the struggle of overcoming limitations and obstacle and challenges is important to our existence, and while we'll never overcome everything or ever reach perfection, we are driven to ever strive towards it.
>>220439759Eww. Please don't remind me of those ugly pond scum colored animal whores. They are the most boner killing creatures in the universe.
Where's the 5"4' alien catgirl race in Star Trek?
>>220439083i was never molested. i wish i was though.
>>220440040Aside from my ex-wife of course.
>>220439797Worf has a sword, there's like space political intrigues, like Star Trek 6 like chuck out of Shakespeare, it's fine, it works.
>>220439991you need me to tell you that you won? you didi'll stay gay and convinced of the human spirits amazing beauty and capability to be more than a farm animal anyways, have a good day
>>220439969When the first 200 people went to New England there had already been successful colonies in Vurginia for a few decades.
>we have arrived at Starbase 515What were they on when they made this starbase a building on a planet
>>220440111stop being retarded. one way trips have never held humanity back.
>>220440154star bases are always on planets. its okay, i once thought the same thing
>>220440071You were probably psycho-spiritualky molested by porn.
>>220440154that's ground control and planetside living for a large population, shipyards and science stations in orbit
>>220440111jamestown was a fucking mess and had nothing to do with the new england colonies
>>220440094I mean so long as I don't have to have obnoxious faggotry shoved in my face or gays put into positions where they can molest children, then I don't really care that you're gay other than I really hope you're a top and not one of those power bottoms I've heard of, I grieve for your asshole if the latter is the case.
>>220439778They create a warp bubble, if it collapses they cannot continue to warp space.
make new
>>220440259you don't get to make demands based on your headcanon fueled by anonymous online outrage. you are not a soldier in the war between good and evil, whoever told you to attack me and every other homosexual, human or animal, on this planet hates you as much as they hate us. get a fucking grip
>>220439809No it isn't >A warp bubble, also known as a static warp bubble or static warp field, is a type of subspace deformation>>220439823How dare I discuss Star Trek
>>220440166I mean, I never said they did, I'm just not letting those buckle-hatted puritan bastards take the glory that rightfully belongs to the Virginia Cavaliers, sir. Slaves, molasses, and cotton, all melted down into golden guineas, sir.
>>220429941Of course it's based on vibes. Celsius is based on the boiling and freezing points of water. Last time I checked I'm a human being, not a pot of water.
i'll make new
>>220440303You mean my natural human instincts and my cultivated reasoning? That's what "told" me homosexuality is rather contraindicated for a happy, healthy and fulfilling life, but you do you, you pursue what evolutionary strategies you feel best serve your genetic line.
>>220440406no it didn't. you have yet to have any kind of in-depth interaction with anyone homosexual but folders of spoonfed hateful rhetoric cherry picked to make us look like monsters who habitually creep on kids.shut. the. fuck. up. trog.
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>>220440453Dude, I live in America, perhaps the gayest country on Earth outside of Israel, I have had plenty of interactions with gays, I have gay relatives and surprisingly I've never kidnapped any of them to have them sent for testicular electrocution therapy, I merely quietly click my tongue at their self-destructive lifestyles and feel grieved when they bring about their untimely deaths through really stupid choices. You probably would feel better if I were some wild eyed chrustcuck retard telling them they're going to he'lland being irrational and shit, probably bevause that's how media has cultivated your views of what someone who would dare to be do evil as not approve of the homosex must be. No inquisitions from this cat, just low-key disgust and feeling bad for your butthole and whatever soul you might have, but soul in a more non-religious philosophical allegorical sense.
>>220440633Sorry about that
