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People vindicated by the Play leaks:>Bobby B (aside the embarassing THE TIDE stuff)>Ned>Cat>Jon Connington>Tywin>Cersei>Littlefinger/CIA>Aerys>Daemon Blackfyre>Jon Snow (confirmed as the least insane Targ)>Darkstar (now the least embarassing Dayne)>All the Valemen>Gregor Clegane>Mirri Maz Duur>Alicent (her line would had never caused such a nonsense madness)>Apple Boy, Ormund Hightower, Lyonel Baratheon (show canon only)People whose reputation was destroyed by the Play leaks:>Lyanna>Rhaegar>Azshara>Arthur>Rhaella>All the dornishmen scum, Elia above all>Dany>Brandon>Jaime>Barristan>Rhaenyra (her line is at fault for all this nonsense madness)>Every in-universe and IRL Targ fanboyAnyone else missing?
ASHARA'S CREAMFILLED DORNISH PUSSY
>elia has uncle lewyn and the dornish forces play both sides at the battle of the trident>they betray the crown and lewyn kills his sworn kingsguard brother>they all end up dying anywayWhat happened here? Did they try to switch sides after Rhaegar fell?
/got/hotd/dunk, where do whores go?
>Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken
>Born amidst salt and smoke? Is he a ham?Renly was such a real one for that, on gods
>>222152788>Rhaenyra (her line is at fault for all this nonsense madness)What
>>222152813Are the Dornish Indians?
>>222152792Elia's favourite meal!
>>222152788Jon Con isn't in the play
>>222152800They were facing the wing of Robert's army made by honorfags Valemen. They saw the Ryonar-Dornish trachery and out of righterous Andal disgust slaughtered them all
>>222152792Elia and Ashara ate each other's creampies
>>222152788>dad was insane>mom was insane and abused him>brother didnt give a shit>sister-in-law was a traitor>sister is an evil bitchVissy was fucked from the beginning
>>222152801Dorne
>>222152800>The Dornish...are Italians
>>222152822targ retardation comes from her DNA and she spread that to the only extant targ line
How is it her fault Dany went apeshit?
The real winner here is the Iron born. The Dornish have managed to pass them as the most repugnant people in westeros.
>>222152849You can just blame any targ for that, greencel
>>222152834His opinion of Lyanna and Elia (only one in the entire saga to call her out together with Cersei) was still correct
>>222152826indians are easy to conquer. literally all you need is 12 english lads and one musket and all the jeets scatter like roaches. the dornish are the opposite of that
wtf is going on? What happened to Ellia? Apparently she’s a pedo and evil and the mountain was right??
>>222152800>the kingsguard kept lewyn's mistress secret, even though they could have had him castrated and sent to the wall for it>he betrays ser darry anywayHouse Darry are true suffering saints
Imagine all the nsfw fan art we'll get because of this play>Elia watching Rhaegar with Lyanna>Elia and Ashara>Elia watching Ashara with Brandon
APOLOGIZE TO GEORGE RIGHT Guarantee many of you thought he would lose a step in his old age. Fattie's still got kino left in after all.
>>222152792>tfw you will never partake in a train on Ashara pain
You know what, I don't want to watch it anymore
>>222152828>>222152845
>it's suppose to be a 50/50 coinflip if a Targ is a retarded freak of nature who ruins everything or a genius GOD tier KING>but actually it's more like 70/30
if this is supposed to be canon, unc's completely lost it
>>222152873A pedo, a cuckquean, a lesbian and a traitor that pushed Rhaegar to coup the throne to ensure total Martell control
>>222152864>Vikings savages are better than Muslim savagesI'll take it.
THE RATCATCHERS
>>222152765He is the delusional lord not the vaguepost lord
>>222152873>was plotting to overthrow aerys from the beginning>knew about rhaegar and lyanna and was fine with it>had her uncle and the dornish forces betray the crown at the trident so they could guarantee her and her kids safetyAlso she and Ashara are lovers; I think she's like ten years older than Ashara or something
>>222152890None of this even sound even slightly kino, it genuinely comes off like a dementia patient that forgot their original gimmick
>>222152800>>222152841based Valemen, teaching those dornoid rats ANDAL FURY
>>222152917House always wins, anon
>>222152890None of this improved the story for me. Sometimes less or more.
>>222152732I missed the based edition because of my retarded job...
Robert got cuck rage when he saw Rhaegar like this
>>222152864>>222152922>MY NAME IS JOHANNA LANNISTER, I'M FROM CASTERLY ROCK, AND I SAY KILL EM' ALL!
So is there going to be recordings of the play released at some point? Although it all sounds absolutely terrible just watching all the mismatched wog cast try to do fantasy would be deeply amusing
Why Martin loves to potraits historically the Martell as strong, if all the current era-Martells are massive failures?>Elia was a powerhungry cuckquean whose coup only ended in her and Kids being GREGOR'ed>Lewyn was a traitor that murderer a fellow Kingsguard and tried to switch side mid-battle while facing the VALEMEN, litterally the biggest honorfags of Westeros, that righfull then slaughtered every single dornishmen they met that day>Oberyn gets GREGOR'ed like his sister and couldnt even properly kill his target>Doran is a bitter and delusional old manthinking is le epic 4d chess master cospirator to cope for his failures>Arianne is trying to be Elia 2.0: Stormlands bungaloo and will likely share the same fate>Quentyn was a mere plot device that needed to die to justify Dorne being the First of the Seven Kingdom to be destroyed by the Queen of Ruins DaenerysWhat the FUCK is the point of the Martells? Did they awakened Martin's jewish blood biological disdain for arab-looking people?
Elio has come out and said most of the play is not canon, lmao. It will never end.
>>222152987Bobby B could never. All he could get were desperate tavern whores wanting child support
I love the Lannisters more with each passing moment
How good will this be lads?
Robert’s Rebellion was built on a lie….
>>222153006Quentyn is alive, Arianne will be queen, and Doran has a master plan.
>>222153020I love that nigga from the perfume
Jaime was traumatized from hearing a woman orgasm and lied about Rhaella being abused
>>222153020>Msyria, againaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, although tbf I would fuck the entirety of the female cast
>>222153020Dunno, I love Cailee Spaeny and her fat arse
>>222153007where?
>At Harrenhal, Robert and Rhaegar have a really meaningful scene where they bond over their shared grief.Who was Rhaegar grieving for?
>>222152992> Following Dalton's assassination, Johanna partnered with Ser Leo Costayne in 134 AC to launch an offensive directly into the Iron Islands, capturing Rodrik Greyjoy to serve as a court fool at Casterly Rock.Most based Lannister in history
>>222153006they have never been strong. they got very good plot armor and that's it>do scorched earth in the desert>magically regain all the food and stuff that you burned after the invader left and don't collectively starve to death
>>222153053A forum of ice and fire. His name is 'ran'.
>>222153058Summerhall
>"The waves, Ned, the waves. I can still hear them. The waves."
>>222153030Dont you have a toddler to take care off Preston?
>>222153058His anal virginity after meeting Lyanna.
WE LIGHT THE WAY.
Lol
>>222153072I didn’t realise that place was still active
>>222153061Don't forget, she had that gay little viking Rodrik castrated too LMAO, and killed like half of Dalton's extended family line
>>222153098I got banned from there like a dozen times in 00s, good times
>>222153082I have a newborn now, a girl.
>Arthur Dayne is gay>Ashara is massive slutWhat purpose does this serve
>>222153007kek literally said this would happen last thread
>>222153007>>222153053>>222153072>People hate the new lore reveals>Fat Man orders one of his minions to say it was all a prankFive more years to rewrite again the ending bros!
>>222153095Based and true
>>222153119>What purpose does this serveLeftism.
>>222153110Caused a mass famine too
>>222153077>robert hates the sea>stannis becomes a master navy manIs that why they drifted apart
>>222153119Revealing the true nature of the D*rnish
>>222153119To vindicate Darkstar as not the worst member of House Dayne
>>222153119George wants Darkstar to be the coolest
>>222153061She was a Westerling though. Queen Lorea is more representative of average Lannister.
I told you. Now that people dont like the reveals he is going to rewrite it to appease the rabid leftists and feminists that all hate it.
>>222152788The only winner from this is Ned. That man was a saint. Everyone else has been knocked down a peg in some way.
>You have the stench of that Dornish bitch on you
>>222153185>Says the 25% dornish man
More Tide your grace?
>>222153197Kek
>>222153195Aerys was straight up half Riverlander
>>222153195Guessing you've never met anyone mixed race?
>>222153195Blame Daeron "fornish the dornish" waters and his retarded sons and grandsons
Why do Dayne females refuse to honor the legitimacy and sanctity of marriage by stealing husbands from their wives?
>yfw he wins in the books
>>222153224He’s losing to the Boltons
>>222153223>stealing husbands from their wivesBrandon was a known womanizerBoth were retarded slutsLittlefinger was right all along
>>222153223the fuck is that
>>222153119>they are dornish but they are not like the rest, also they are almost whiteits to silence these sort of people, you know the ones who think white looking latinos are based. george is very redpilled
>>222153007It was obvious.If Grum didn't write, it isn't canon.Simply as.
>>222153239My sister
>>222153176>he is going to rewrite it to appease the rabid leftists and feminists that all hate it.I don't think he will. The Rhaella rant is further evidence of GRRM doubling down on Daenerys being the scourge of Westeros. GRRM is fairly stubborn, he mostly writes what he wants and refuses to do what people expect.
>>222153266Yronwoods and Manwoodys are still based.
>tfw this play was gonna be some flash back in the books>tfw george used this to test the waters (like ending in the main the show)>every hates it>again GODS I CANT WRITE
>>222153274Do you practice incest? Because if not youre faggier than Arthur Dayne
>>222153224what books?
>>222153270God he's such a pleb
>>222153239>the fuck is thatThe last thing a Northman sees before he breaks his marital vows
>>222152890It doesn't sound kino at all. It makes me glad that we'll probably never get TWOW so we can pretend all the stupid shit that has been revealed by the various non-book adaptations and George's interviews are non-canon.>>222153007The books are never coming out and GRRM's "gardening" makes talks of canon pointless.
>>222153270He litterally wrote the plot of the play
I wonder how stuck he actually is at this point. Is he just paralyzed at this point, unable to go through with these ideas
>>222153292His career is a great case study for the flow state. You stop writing on your project? Well now it's already passe and you're second guessing yourself, good job. Strike while the iron is hot and all that.
>>222153270even if TWOW comes out and confirms is all you retards will still deny itI've seen this kind of psychosis in the fanbases of lot of long running franchises and it never ends well
>>222153308Ok she looks much better here
>>222153324>He litterally wrote the plot of the playWhy even try to lie in the internet?>litterallyKek, use the auto correct anon.
George is a chud posing as a lib
soon
>>222153348it's George's project bucko
>>222153325>I wonder how stuck he actually is at this point. Is he just paralyzed at this point, unable to go through with these ideasHard, and he can either go through the agonizing and lonely process of tying all these loose ends, or just go to Olive Garden. He’s set for life in either case.
>>222152800I've been shitposting about this play since the leaks last night but this is the first I'm hearing of this.Holy fuck the Martells might just be the stupidest faction in the entire series. Even the Ironborn and the Dothraki aren't this retarded.
>>222153370That's just denial at this point anon.
>>222153355>story is literally about how immigrants keep destroying native culture>first men destroyed the children>andals destroy the first men>rhoynar destroy the southern andals/first men
>>222152846He looked so cute and helpless there. If I was khal Drogo I would pour something other than gold on him, if you catch my drift.
>>222153007The thing is that Elio and GRRM have repeatedly stated that Elio doesn't know what will come in future books. So he is only saying this because he feels as if it is so contradictory of the current understanding of canon, that it can't be canon. That doesn't mean he is right. He has no true insight into what will happen in the future books. His guess is as good as yours, but Elio has always acted like a know it all.
>>222153007Anyone who thinks>George is only claiming its not canon because of the receptionIs retardedIt contraddicts established things. Did you guys really think NOBODY saw Rhaegar miraculously beat Robert? That nobody knew Rhaegar was the greatest warrior alive?It was obvious it was non canon, the nigger cast was even more blatant.
>>222153391They were invaders, not immigrants
Do you wish to come to our isle of dragons, northern girl?
>>222153348>>222153270>>222153095>>222153007Do you really think GRRM ia going to produce a play and let the writer come up with complete fanfiction?Please dont tell me you are this retarded. GRRM produces the Game of Throne shows but didn't write every episode. They still use him as a source.The only reason its not "canon" is because it hasnt been released yet. GRRM has always said he wanted to make a Robert's Rebellion movie or min series so you will have to just argue about this until its all inevitably confirmed in the HBO adaption
>>222153436Excellent
>>222153405Elio is just an upjumped theorist, his opinions are no more worthy than Preston Jacobs or David Lightbringer
>Dany, shitty detached sideplot in the show and books>is the anchor point for all of the extended universe content and loreIf the show end is correct, then she isn't AA so the Targs are all now having very specific visions of Danaerys being the saviour that aren't even true.Is it really all just to appease the Burlingon bar crew and reddit users that named their kids kaleesi?
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>>222153443Let him have his cope if it comforts him...
>>222153405>He has no true insight into what will happen in the future books.tbf neither does George lol
>>222153007>>222153270It's not canon to GRRM's continuity but the reveals in it are clearly what he intends.
>>222153452He cowrote the World of Ice and Fire
Main thing he keeps repeating is he's made too many plot lines criss crossing, that makes a yarn ball, and essentially he has no idea how to work with it anymore really, but then gets pissed with anybody who asks where tf it is and fans even though he keeps holding it and see sawing between "I've made a new chapter lots of progress" and "pursuing several plotlines at a time in different locations was a mistake"
>>222153433they started out as immigrants. There was always a period of coexistence before the immigrants showed their true color.
>>222153443>complete fanfictionIt's not complete fanfic, obviously some things are true, but the things that clearly contraddict asoiaf are indeed fanfic made for the purpose of dramatizing the play, like Robert losing and Rhaegar getting a fucking DDOS attack, or Rhaella being actually insane. In a play Rhaella cursing Dany looks cool, but its obviously not how she is remembered in asoiaf
>>222153121lmao this. fatman was just testing the waters, probing the fans. now that all the insane dany fans, bobby b incels and twitter normies are angry he probably deleted half of winds
>>222152950Agree with this. GRRM is good at realistic enough motivations and stuff, but the type of fans that talk as if he has some deep understanding of politics and history are ridiculous. If its not War of the Roses hes largely clueless. Preston is the only ASOIAF youtuber ive seen be honest about this. Other youtubers have this weird idea, that because theyve absorbed information about the medieval ages through osmosis, if it feels like "Ooooh the Dark Ages, its so dark and brutal..." then its realistic to their minds. Theyre retards ignorant of their own ignorance, and I see an extremely surprising lack of desire for ASOIAF fans to actually understand the historical contexts that led to certain norms, so many ASOIAF fans ive seen act like you could just institute democracy, and modern specialized education and better medicine, and equal rights or whatever if the right people just realized it was better.Also one of the biggest red flags for how little you understand history is when you use "racism" as a descriptor for any foreigner hate. Race as a concept did not exist back then as it does now. It is almost fundamentally absurd to even imply such. Saw somebody say that Aerys is racist against Dornes and immediately realized how little they understand about race, which is crazy since as liberals they should understand social construct theory of race.
>Elia Martell
>>222153465Dany is still important as she represents the product of the Valryian blood magic pact with dragons that eventually leads to their doom. Jon defeating her is poetic.
>>222153443are you familiar with the house of the dragon and game of thrones?
>>222153426Anything that is not the books is not canon, but George has reportedly worked closely with the play creators and has basically fawned over them. My impression is that it is close to canon, with certain fabricated contrivances to help fit the play format. Elio saying it is non-canon means marginally more than if Alt Shift X said it wasn't canon.
Reminder: Rhaegar is a rapist, a manipulative prophecy-obsessed groomer, and an incestuous alien dragon spawn freak. The play is non-canon.
>>222153370Seems more like it was a project of those two and grrm only gave it his blessing
>>222153433the only difference between an immigrant and an invader is whether the natives fight them or not
>>222153474BASED
>>222153488Yeah, and GRRM could have hired a thousand other fans for a project like that, he isn't special. I could have done it for him.
>>222153543It’s over Bobby, you lost and killed the main character
>>222153536God I wish I wasn't
>>222153555Well no, an immigrant is peaceful and an invader is not
>>222153567But you didn’t and he did, he has a lot of insider knowledge that you don’t
>>222153553You've gotta let it go bro, GRRM isn't feeding these adaptions of his work with false information, GOT and HOTD and The Mad King all contain canon lore about ASOIAF and things that will happen in TWOW
Read it and weep guys.
>>222153606but they also contradict stuff that was written in ASOIAF
>>222153594>trust me bro I secretly know everythinglmao, here we go again with the upjuimped fanboy with inflated egos
>>222153581Immigrants are not all peaceful because everyone is different
>>222153612Dornebros... our narrative...
>>222153612god damn it, why did he do this to bobby
>>222153606>isn't feeding these adaptions of his work with false informationNobody is claiming that, we are claiming that some of the dumbest parts are probably fanfic
>>222153624Sure, but that's the writers on the project choosing to change things when adapting. GRRM isn't feeding them false info, he's even admitted certain things that happened in later seasons of GOT are canon
>>222153594>he has a lot of insider knowledgeHe has repeatedly stated himself he doesn't know what is coming in the future books, and I believe he hasn't talked to George in a long while either.
Things like Lyanna being a greenseer, Brandon x Ashara, Elia being a player, are clearly from George. Finer details like Aerys gifting Robert the bundle of sticks on water is probably play only.
>>222153485This is pretty much what Elio said. The major reveals are probably canon or GRRM’s intentionsSo something like foreshadowing Mad Dany, Lyanna greener, Elia being more in on it than we thought, Brandon x Ashara, Benjen helping Lyanna, Lyanna telling Ned to promise her to not reveal Jon’s parentage or the prophecy to him, Bran whispering to Ned at the Tower of Joy, Rhaegar getting a dragon dream blast to the noggin by Bran/Bloodraven so Robert can win are likely stuff he wants to do
>>222153655>he's even admitted certain things that happened in later seasons of GOT are canonNigger we ALL know Dany is going mad, the issue is the execution
>the shitty reveals are from george>the cool ones are play onlywake up goys
>>222153612AhahahhahahahhahahahhaPfftttftttAhahhahahahahhahahh
>>222153627He literally cowrote the lore book with George
>>222153606>and things that will happen in TWOWhahahahaha
>>222153657>Finer details like Aerys gifting Robert the bundle of sticks on water is probably play only.That's funny though. Bobby should give him replica of Summerhall (pile of ash) in return.
>>222153184I love that ned thot patrolled ashara>ned I wanna fuck you>I'm poly, and have had MULTIPLE lovers, even now. I think love should be shared!>we can go bang right now, if you want>ned: "Absolutely not. You should only have sex after marriage">immediately goes to fuck brandon tooAnd then she falls in love with brandon gotta fuck em all stark KEK.
>>222153612I'm telling you, even when the TWOW comes out people will still deny it and try to save face by claiming George is senile or was pressured by the Jews to change to change his story or somethingFanboys spend of years of their lives investing their headcannons into franchises like asoiaf and can't accept being wrong
>>222153657The Aerys gift does feel very grrmian actually. The play additions are stuff like Ned falling on his knees to beg Robert not to kill Viserys and Dany
>>222153673Isn't her last mental monologue in Dance her deciding to go full Dragonmode and kill everyone in her way?
Aerys comes out of this looking like a massive piss taker and troll more than anything
Remember, George was insistent on the prophecy shit in HoTD too. It's time to admit he's just a fucking idiot.
Did Elia deserve it then? Is that what I should take away from this
Dany wasn't mad at all. Her only option was to teach those peasants a lesson they wouldn't forget. Better start with a fresh population than wasting years looking for every bitch in town trying to backstab your guards.It was the ultimate logical decision. If anything the problem is she stopped before burning everything.
>>222153594Elio, in fact, doesn’t have much insider knowledge. GRRM is apparently free with spoilers and Elio has to be firm with GRRM to not spoil him >Elio: Naturally, people have asked us about this because of our long involvement with George and his work, both as long-time fans and lore “experts”, and as collaborators on The World of Ice and Fire, so it may be useful to explain how we understand the situation, based on our experiences and knowledge. Before we start, though, a disclaimer: we have not directly spoken to George or the creatives about any of the specifics of the play. And, for that matter, we will do so without discussing the substance of the play or spoiling any of its details.Elio doesn’t know, he’s analyzing it himself. His conclusion is some it is canon and some of it isn’t for the sake of the play
>a third child is the PTWP>both dany and jon are third children but we don't know which one is the real PTWP>dany was pregnant twice in the books and following her rule of three she'll get pregnant againdany and jon's kid will be the real PTWP and the others will try to make an agreement asking for their child in order to stop the long night, dany will refuse but jon will accept itthis is likely what will drive dany mad
>>222153716>whenhohohohohohohoho
>>222153723He was a mad lad, others just couldn't take the bantz.
The most important pic in the world
>>222153722Yes, it's one of the most blatantly telegraphed character arcs in the franchise. Showfags were confused because D&D portrayed Daenerys as more of a feminist empowerment story so the whiplash into genocidal maniac was strange
>>222153731Is there another artist who fundamentally doesn't understand their own work?
Luckily the Rhaegar vision was most likely just for the play to make his death more tragic. Bobby beat him clean.
>>222152800They were trying to kill darry to thin out anyone who would oppose lewyn deposing aerys and making viserys marry rhaenys and setting viserys as king. If enough men survived after the battle the idea is aerys would let them into kings landing and they could take it.
>>222153760The play script will get published as a book :^)
>>222153676Sad but true. It’s no wonder he hasn’t finished. Wonder if he’s just throwing shit out here and seeing what people like or not.
>>222153778The guy who did Attack on Titan springs to mind
Magic and prophecyslop ruined ASOIAFThis shold have stayed a grounded politcal series
>>222153772Yes, GoT very much harmed the Dany plotline (well, for various reasons but focus) by being made in the 2010s, the high watermark for feminism and girl empowerment. If it had been made earlier then an steadily eviling female anti-hero (full villain?) would have gone down a treat and been eagerly portrayed
>>222153778Chainsawman Part 2 finale fundamentally doesn't understand why the Part 1 finale was great
CAN I GET A QRD ON THE PLAY EVENTS???Surely someone has made a greentext?
>>222153808>This shold have stayed a grounded politcal seriesI thought you guys hated that stuff because it's too cynical and not like muh heckin' wholesome Tolkien fantasy
>>222153808>This shold have stayed a grounded politcal seriesit never was grounded
>>222153808>the first thing that happens is magic ice people killing some guys
>>222153746Dany was not the third child though
>>222153808trusting a faggot American hippie boomer to write the mystical is asking for trouble
>>222153808This. It's obvious the whole franchise has just become juvenile fantasy tripe.
>>222153745Yep, he just published an article, and he is making assertions that the play is partially not canon based on press releases and the like that you and I also know about. This isn't him saying "George told me X, so I know the play is not canon".
>every Saartell of note 3 seconds before their incredibly painful gratuitous Looney Tunes death
>broke: Aegon IV was Daemon Blackfyre's father>woke: Baelor was Daemon Blackfyre's father>bespoke: Daeron II was Daemon Blackfyre's fatherCú Chulainn and Connla, Rostam and Sohrab, Hildebrand and Hadubrand. Daeron and Daemon belong to that ancient motif, the father who unknowingly kills, or in this case causes the death of, his own son.
>Um but George says...Sorry, death of the author. I simply do not care and have chosen my own interpretation.
>>222153837>>222153839>>222153841>Missing the point this hard
>>222153006They're just Spanish.
>>222153760The entire point is that there are clearly details which are straight from George. Certainly there is more potential to draw canonicity from here because it is a play and therefore more literary. Lyanna being a greenseer is clearly from George. Rhaegar and Aerys having a breeding competition is clearly play only, because the timeline doesn’t match, and Dany was not the third child.
D&D understood the series better than George
>>222153861>baroque: Baelor the Blessed was Daemon Blackfyre's father
>>222153895Watch it Chrissy!
>>222153612hahahaha yes YES... haha
>>222153861>Cú Chulainn and Connla, Rostam and Sohrab, Hildebrand and HadubrandNo one knows who these niggas are, gurm least of all.Daena raped Baelor.
>>222153861Based mythology anon
seeing dornoid scum being revealed as the rats they are brings a tear to my eyeDEATH TO DORNOIDSAND DEATH TO THE IRONBORN!
>>222153006He lives in new Mexico and likes to subject the sunset to the sight of him having partaken in Mexican cuisine.
Do you guys enjoy all the prophecies and Dany references in HOTD? It’s a yes or no.
>>222153872concession accepted
>>222153778I'd like to believe the prophecy is just in universe cope for Targs to do shit they already wanted to do, like invade and conqueror westeros
>>222153924>Do you guys enjoy...HOTD?No
>>222153924YAAAS
>>222153808george is good at writing medieval fantasy and characters with inner conflicts. hes shit at writing magic and he cant properly handle the prophecy. the problem is i dont think he knows it about himself. the only time hes good at writing magic stuff is when its very mysterious and we barely know anything about it, and maybe its just rumors or superstition
>>222153924God, no. Especially since it barely seems to matter. The long night is over in a single battle.
>>222153924I personally don't pay much attention to the prophecy stuff when reading because who cares, whatever happens is gonna happenthey're just bait for theory crafters
>>222153785Fuck youuuuu
>>222153835this guy made a thread about ithttps://x.com/got_onstage
>>222153119Almost everyone in rhaegars circle was gay>arthur (gay, lovers with whent)>oswell (gay, lovers with arthur)>elia (gay, having an affair with ashara)>jon connington (gay, secretly in love with rhaegar)What are the odds?
>>222153924No.Longer answer - once was enough and ok. Dropping it several times is annoying.
UHH GEORGE???THE BLOG POST???WHERE IS THE BLOG POST???
>>222153916i had to rewatch the oberyn death scene after these reveals. god damn dornish
>>222153991The Lavender Mafia sends its regards
>>222153984ty!
>>222153991Kingsguard being gay makes sense, Elia was just Dornish
>>222152882The Dornish murder him yet their descendants, Dany and Vissy, are protected by another Darry for years Oh no
Based Dornchads made everyone seethe
The Dany visions work only if they are meant to be an ominous warning about the doom of their blood magic dynasty.
>no you see I secretly knew the Song of Ice and Fire prophecy all along, I'm really smart and understand the books better than the author
How did Tyland react when he heard the news?
Did Martin approve the play because he thought he'd finish Winds before the premier or because he thought he'll never finish?
>>222154056>Did Martin approve the play because he thought he'd finish Winds before the premierThis was approved quite some time ago, so I think this is the case almost certainly.
Rhaella cursing Danerys is apparently unconfirmed https://x.com/got_onstage/status/2082404222985781604
I honestly don't understand why there is so little whole sale delende est in this setting. At some point you'd think one of the Targs would have gone full Cato on Dornish or Ironborn. Or hell pre dance on the entire triarchy. Someone really should have been wiped off the map for being a shit at some point, and no eradicating a single house doesn't count.
>>222153185Aerys came out so much better from this fucking play lmao>you have the stench of that dornish bitch on you>this granddaughter reeks of dornish>you mongrel faced dornish bitch (to elia)>taunts rhaegar to kill him when rhaegar had his sword out. Rhaegar chickens out. Laughs at him and calls him a coward>sends Robert a box with water and splinters in it after his parents died in the shipwreck>Everyone he accused of trying to kill him were actually trying to kill him>the dornish actually tried to betray him at the trident, so he was right about that too
>>222154077They tried to wipe out the Dornish but they have an authorial shieldNo excuse for the Ironborn though
>GoT makes Jorah less of an old ugly pedo>HotD makes Rhaenyra the goodest of good girls>The play makes Gregor Clegane a heroWho will aKotSK whitewash?
>>222153924Only as the recurring reason why the targshits keeps destroying themselves, its hillarious
>>222154052>I'm really smart and understand the books better than the authorDeath of the author
>>222154098Shiera
>>222154086Him not actually being mad would be an incredible twist
>>222154077Blame George's autism on having to have certain houses stem from one mythological figure who may or may not have done something cool.>Yeah, actually the Greyjoys are awesome because their founder killed a sea dragon and married a mermaid, totally bro, it was real
>>222154053He regretted not giving him one final pony ride ;-;
Not in my headcanon
>>222154056He approved the play because money
I made a useful guide for playgoers
>>222154053>Oh fuck, I hope the king doesn't blame me.
>>222154097What did the Ironborn do though? After the conquest they don't much raiding and pillaging of Westeros, until certain civil wars.
what was Elia's plan here>is hostage of Aerys>tells her uncle to openly betray Aerys>not get executed by aerys somehow?
>Ned being disgusted with Ashara>Everyone thinks he was in love with her
>>222154155I'm, uh, noticing something
>>222154121She will tell Bloodraven that Aegor's is bigger.
>>222153858We are a mere two bad poosseh extinction events from the Dornish master plan coming to fruition.
Gregor is just a faithful Seven man. His reaction is quite reasonable when, while still in the heat of battle, you learn that this all started because the Queen to be filled the Prince Heir's head with this weird dragon prophecy wank
>>222154155I'm noticing a pattern here
>>222154180Rumors spread like crazy>Hey, Lord Stark went all the way to give back Arthur's bones and his sword. He was definitely trying to fuck Lady Dayne.
>>222153961>>222153924Between this, GoT, and HoTD it's pretty clear the whole point of the White Walkers is to be a deliberate anticlimax and a red herring for the real antagonist which is Dany and her dragons. The titular "Song of Ice and Fire" is in fact the prophecy from HoTD which is a George original plot point he has yet to reveal himself and serves as the inciting incident for all of this. It fits in too well with what George has said about how he views prophecies in fiction and his views on war.If you're hinging your decades long magnum opus on an anti-climax that is meant to be intentionally unsatisfying before shifting to the "real" conclusion, I could see how you'd get writers block for 25 years trying to make that work.
>>222154126He did imprison elia and disinherited rhaegar, so he got the last laugh there. Its hilarious that elia is as shitty a plotter as her brother doran and niece arianne though. It's like every dornish thinks they can plot but they're all fucking retarded.
Is this death of the author
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE63uUyQGxoWhy didn't they let her speak with this accent? Her regular voice is so nice
I apologize.
>>222154171They raped the Westerlands during the Dance and Alyn Oakenfist had to lead an invasion fleet
>>222153195Given that Aerys refused to wash he would have been intimately familiar with the stench of the Dornish.
>>222154098Bloodraven from being a weirdo incel school shooter to saving the timeline
>>222154201Bran is giving him headaches to see more beautiful rapes.
>>222154155>Elia and Ashara are two negress dyking it pAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>222153092>uhhh yeah let's have 50 of our guys pretend to be dead so they can be slaughtered in close combat while the rest of our massive army hides just off-screen Wtf was the point in those doomed fools pretending to be dead? Cole's guys were surely already surrounded
>>222154225why is she cute here
say what you want about gregor, but at least he wasnt a pedo like your favs
>>222153020I am moderately optimistic. Alex Garland is a serious writer-director, this is a good cast, and Garland's apparently passionate about the game.
>>222154076It’s confirmed. I know someone who went to the play who told me. What’s being disputed is how it’s said but yes, Rhaella does wish for a vengeful daughter rather than a noble prince to bring ruin
>>222154225She sounds tolerable when she doesn't have to put on that awful accident.
I’m glad the bloodline of the greatest man who ever lived, Ned Stark, will win in the end.
Rhaegar is a good boy who dindu nuffin
>>222154241Oh god that'd be such a funny plot twist, Bran mentally making Gregor into a monster
>>222154098They'll make Lannisters descendants of Dunk since Dunk fucked Tywin's grandma.
>>222154283he raped some tavern keeper's 12 year old daughter
>>222154300>Garland's apparently passionate about the game.Every faggot says that about the project they work on, that they love the original. Doesn't mean they can't fuck it up.
>>222153657Lyanna being a warg/greenseer is fucking stupid. It completely devalues bran being a warg and greenseer. The books stated it's so astronomically rare that it only happens like once every few decades, and sure as fuck not all in the same family. Except this time its one generation apart. And now bran isn't even unique in this aspect, his aunt already got there first.
>>222154225The Patois is integral to the character.
>>222154305Robb is deadRickon is deadBran is a cripple.What bloodline?
>>222154225watching this is disappointingshe should be the thread waifu not the most hated character
>Brandon was a dumbass laying pipe>Lyanna was even MORE retarded about prophecy's then RhaegarNed going to the vale was the best thing that could have happened to him.
>>222154276They were just napping after weekly orgy, heard someone is coming and decided to play possum.
>>222154352Rickon is not dead and Bran will be God Emperor.
>>222154171>Dalton Greyjoy, the Lord of the Iron Islands known as the Red Kraken, sacked the city in 130 AC, capturing three-quarters of Lannisport's fleet and sinking the rest. Six hundred women and girls, including the favorite mistress of Lord Jason Lannister and his natural daughters, were taken as salt wives.[28] One of Dalton's salt wives was a Lannister of Lannisport.[29] Ser Emory Hill, the Bastard of Lannisport, was killed in the Battle by the Lakeshore.[30]They're literally just a bunch of white slaver savages who wait for any chance they get to sack and pillage.
Where are you guys getting this information >>222153185 >>222154086 >>222153119 about the play from?
>>222154333I mean all of Ned's children already have that so it's not a stretch. Plus Jon has it too so he has to get it from someone and that someone has to be Lyanna
>>222154362and Bran will die eventually without any heirs.
>>222153736yea. She was a retard playing stupid games and thinking she knew what she was doing. She was the one who got rhaegar plotting against his dad and most of it were her ideas. She's functionally her generations arianne.
>>222154352his secret grandson borne by jeyne westerling
>>222154363so they are basically vikangs
>>222154384rickon will have kids
>>222154320she had dornish blood
>>222154363>Great hero of the ironborn>Killed by one of his women
>>222154316Jason Lannister is Dunk’s son. His daughter is Joanna. So Cersei, Jaime, and Tyrion are descended from Dunk,
>>222154363It's called aura, bruh
>>222154323He strikes me as too dispeptic and world-weary to work on projects he's not personally passionate about and bandy about meaningless press-tour platitudes like that. He may fuck it up, but it won't be from a place of incompetence or indifference.
>>222154333Aren't all Ned's kids one, just Bran is the only one doing something with it?
>>222154398Jeyne being pregnant is one of those things where George just forgot the details and the fanbase came up with theories to rationalize it, like Shansha believing the Hound kissed her, or Dany remembering a lemon tree in Davos
>>222154402look out, ir*nbornfags are gonna tell you she was a faceless man lmao
>>222154362Is Bran going to continue the Stark bloodline Leto II style by warging into people and making them rape his sister?
>>222154352Rickon is alive in the books and considering that GRRM planned to kill off Sansa, he’s probably planning to let Rickon live. Queen Sansa was show only
>>222154369All of neds kids don't have this. All of neds kids are wargs, which is already incredibly rare. Bran however is a warg/greenseer, which is said to be astronomically rare. It's whats so unique about bran. And now lyanna is apparently one too. Completely shits on brans entire thing. Why didn't bloodraven just grab her? Was he trying to fulfill the prophecy? Does he just not want to be a chick? He'd sooner choose to be a crippled boy than a woman?
>>222152788what happen
>>222154436Rickon’s line will inherit after him, if he ever dies
>>222154462>Completely shits on brans entire thing.How does it shit on Bran when she's dead? Stop making up imaginary things to be outraged about you moralizing rodent
>>222154472If Bran becomes king (since that's apparently one of the things George told D&D) wouldn't that leave Rickon to be lord of Winterfell anyway?
>>222154462Bloodraven didn’t grab Lyanna because she was meant to be breeding material to birth Jon and a stronger one in the form of Bran was one generation away
>>222154400>>222154441Implying Rickon won't get captured by the Umbers and sent to the Boltons. Rickon has massive deathflags since they need Jon to be Lord of Winterfell.
>>222154399That's exactly what they are analogous to. The problem I have is you would expect in a setting so Brit tied there really should be a Norman analogous offshoot of the iron born. However, there's just nothing, the Ironborn are stagnant raiders.
Is this the end? Has George completely fucked it now?
>>222154441Yeah, the only other option was a child from Jon and Arya, but if he has the option of keeping Sansa alive that means it’s not happening. Though it’s possible because of timeline issues he kills off Rickon and does Sansa’s show plot.
>>222154433>lemon tree in Davos
>>222154491There won’t be a King’s Landing at the end of the story so they’ll have to move there capital somewhere. They could move to Winterfell or Harrenhal
>>222154504Umbers are Stark loyalists in the book. Even the ones that fight for the Boltons are actually just moles
>>222154513>Gave up on flagship series>Still fine with cashing out with various spin-off shows, plays, video games>Disowns them as soon as the check clears and says they're not canon
>>222154514>does Sansa’s show plot.He already did it with Arya, it's just... not the real Arya exactly
>>222154513Yes>>222154523More like Davos Treeworth
>>222154491Yes>>222154504Jon doesn’t have to be Lord of Winterfell, he could just be regent for Rickon. But if Robb’s Will legitimises Jon it means Winterfell is his anyways whether Ned’s kids are alive or not. Rickon could be compromised by the Skagosi which means the Northern Lords could pull behind Jon. Not to mention that Jon could win against the Boltons militarily and claim Winterfell through conquest.
>>222154399They are Norse-Gael slave traders from the kingdom of the isles and Settlements on Ireland.
>>222154364It just aired yesterday and people on twitter have been talking about it. There's been a lot of info dropped>arthurs gay>whents gay(both lovers)>rhaella is nuts like aerys, she's got burns all over from summerhall and scars from aerys>she curses westeros and her life and declares she will have a daughter that will burn everything down>elia was actually a big plotter>tried to get dornish power secured on the throne, and replace aerys>lewyn helping her (her uncle in the kingsguard)>aerys is just starting shit with everyone. Everyones also out to kill him, he's completely right to be paranoid>lyannas a greenseer, goes to rhaegar herself and wants to be his plapmeat to have the prophecy baby>they interact in dreams, she asks him to come for her>ashara a giga slut, fucking everyone. Fucking elia as her "true love", tried to fuck ned, ned refuses, tried to fuck barristan, barristan refuses. Fucks brandon, gets knocked up and seppukus when the kids stillborn>arthur goes nuts when whent dies and kills all neds companions at ToJ, until howland who was knocked out wakes up and slits his throat from behind. Still fights with slit throat until ned finishes him off.
>>222154507>there really should be a Norman analogous offshoot of the iron bornThat was Harren, and he lost to the other not-Norman group
>>222154552Is anyone in the norf not a stark loyalist with a painting of Saint Eddard Stark over their mantle?
>>222154554I mean Sansa becoming Lady of Winterfell not her exact show plot
>>222154599Jorah Mormont
>>222154590I always thought he was a Cnut stand in.
>>222154604>I mean Sansa becoming Lady of WinterfellIt's never happening, Sansa is still married to the dwarfSansa going North is the most obvious red herring bait ever, all her plot connections are below the neck
>>222154504Rickon doesn’t have to die for Jon to be Lord of Winterfell. Rickon is a feral 6 year old and looks like a Tully. Jon looks like Ned and is battle tested and an adult. Jon’s also been legitimized so it’s up for debate whether an older legitimized bastard puts him in the front of the line or at the back. Jon just needs a bigger coalition of northerners supporting him than Rickon to be overlord
>>222154625Contrary what might be expected but Cnut wasn't a cunt, unlike Harren who very much feels like a Norman yoke build castles everywhere stand in
>>222154485>its incredibly rare>except your aunt also had it like 15 years ago>crazy, right?Not so fucking rare then is it?>moralizing rodentStop seething faggot. She was a shit character who died as nothing more than a baby factory, there's no reason to actually care about the character. It's just retarded they stole brans thing to give to her when its all the little crippled dude has.
>>222153223>>222153308name?
>>222154599Barbrey Dustin, who got cum and dumped by Brandon Stark and then got dumped again by Ned who didn't bring her husband's bones back.
>>222154684it's a fantasy book and Eddard's family are special, it's why they dominate in POVs
>>222154664Fair I guess I draw the connection because his empire feels more like cnuts but he definitely has the norman castle building going for him.
>>222154651Something could happen which annuls the marriage. Obviously Littlefinger is gearing up for a Riverlands invasion. What I’m saying is that Sansa could end up as Lady of Winterfell at the end if the five year gap messes up Rickon’s arc. George said in the interview that people liked where Sansa’s show arc went, which means he could go for her being Lady of Winterfell. But clearly the point of Rickon is so Ned’s line continues and inherits after Bran.
>>222154729that something is proof that Tyrion never consummated the marriage and thus they were never legally wed
>>222154514I think whatever Jon/Arya plan he had, he changed it by Book 2 and he was leaning toward Arya/Gendry continuing the Stark line but Arya’s too young now so he probably will keep Rickon alive or keep Sansa alive and hook her up with Harry the Heir so he can knock her up with a Stark-Tully-Arryn heir
>>222154693Barbrey Dustin is clearly exaggerating her distaste for the Starks. She still supports the Starks like everyone else.
>>222154498If there was a reason this is probably it. With how strong bloodraven is he can likely look to the future in some small capacity and knew something better was coming. But it still just shits on the idea of it being so rare when they start handing this shit out.
ASOIAF is basically just poor man's Dune, what's with all the eugenics to breed the prophesized super psychic man
>>222154716The whole Iron Island empire does feel like a split between the North Sea empire and the Normans. Plus Cnut conquered England, while Harren didn't conquer the Riverlands while Aegon did conquer everything, and so did William. Basically George is just ransacking history for figures to copy and it's never going to be 1:1 but each one will be a mix
>>222154755Starks are the special family of MCs
>>222154427no, it's just bran. Jon has something similar to visions, possibly, with a direwolf in the crypts of winterfell thats likely robbs spirit, but it's nowhere near bran. IIRC jojen tells him that its incredibly rare to be a warg and then like 1/3000 wargs MIGHT be a greenseer.
>>222153924I guess but Danny was never the chosen one. John was. Her only purpose was to deliver the dragons to him.
>>222154751I don’t think Harry the Heir is surviving the tourney. And he’s not descended from Jon Arryn so you’re not making the super bloodline from that. Jon / Arya is really taboo in forums, but I think if George wanted to he could make it work. Daenerys was just about to turn 14 when she was with Khal Drogo. But yeah it’s probably been gardened away.
>>222154748that something is the fact that Tysha is still alive in Braavos.
>>222154842where all whores go is actually Lys.
>>222154842That would be lame.
>>222154786Look at the Stark backstory that GRRM created in AWOIAF and its Stark men breeding the magic daughters of kings and lords they defeat to capture them into their bloodline
>>222154857I thought it was a shallow grave
>>222154857>Arya goes to Braavos>old man immediately suggest she becomes a whore
>did nothing wrong >canonically
>>222154542Probably oldtown like was originally expected with aegon. Unless oldtown actually gets sacked by a kraken from the pirate smurf.
>>222154786The next step to Muad'dib creation is fAegon and Shireen.
>>222154572So house Sigurdr.
>>222154890You’re crazy if you don’t think Bran is ruling from the God’s Eye
>>222154542Bran will rule forever from the isle of faces with his green men kingsguard
>>222154542Stone Hedge
>>222154875>Old man Epstein
>>222154888Ser, the rape was unnecessary.
>>222154729>Something could happen which annuls the marriage.It's not happening. The Faith of the Seven is aligned with Tommen and will not be annulling a marriage between Sansa and Tyrion anytime soon. GRRM did not just randomly marry Sansa and Tyrion together because he was bored, it's a major plot event that impact both their character arcs in the future.Stop trying to force random bullshit to suit your headcannons and look at what is actually happening in the story. Sansa is pretending to Petyr's daughter, her story is focused on Littlefinger, Sweetrobin and the Vale.
>>222154905Aegon Blackfyre Brightflame Mopatis + Shireen Targaryen Baratheon of Dragonstone
So Bran is becomes some god king? But what does he do? What are his motivations?
>>222154905They already made it. It’s Bran. Ned is clearly Leto and Catelyn is Jessica his big titty ginger women lover. Bran can’t breed so he can hand his crown to his nephew from one of his siblings eventually
>>222154944the rape accusation is slander. Gregor did not rape her. His confession was caused by delirium from being stabbed with a poisoned sandnigger spear. In this house Ser Gregor Clegane is a hero.
>>222154949You’re quite literally getting pissy with me because I’m contradicting your headcanon but whatever. I agree that Sansa is being used by Littlefinger to secure the Riverlands, what I’m saying is that judging by the interview, he may pivot Sansa’s arc and have her rule Winterfell like her show counterpart if he decides the lack of a five year gap ruined Rickon.
WHERE IS SWEET FAKE DAERON
>>222154729>>222154651Could either be>Tyrion and her never consecrated the marriage, no heirs either. Have it annuled.>It comes out and is widely recognized that tyrion was already married to Tysha, a common born girl, which was consummated. And the previous annulment tywin tried to force is not recognized and thus tyrion couldn't legally marry her.
>>222154959>Mopatis
>>222154972To negotiate with the Others, let the wisdom of the trees guide his action to create a just and stable society, end succession conflicts by never dying and making it so it’s impossible to plot against him with his near omniscience and his ability to kill you by taking control of your body and also for humanity to respect the weirwoods
>>222152826no, indians were conquered and targs failed every war against dorne
>>222152800>Did they try to switch sides after Rhaegar fell?Elia wanted Rhaegar to die during the battle, the plan was the Dornish part of the army would then retreat to King's Landing, overthrow Aerys, crown Viserys and Rhaenys, and assume the rebels would be fine with things since Rhaegar and Aerys are dead and Lyanna is a hostagebut based Valechads broke the Dornish army and ran them all down
>>222155035And his tax policy ser?
>>222155063The vale really are the best
>>222154919is the god's eye wheelchair accessible?
>>222155006>I’m contradicting your headcanonNo, what I'm talking about is factual stuff that's part of story. You're theory crafting and not doing a good job of it.>have her rule Winterfell like her show counterpart if he decides the lack of a five year gap ruined Rickon.There's already a major battle happening in Winterfell, involving hundreds of other characters I swear you guys don't even read the books or pay attention
>>222155029In Daemon's quarters.
>>222155080Ask Tyrion. He’ll probably crunch the numbers for Bran
does the play explain how ned figured out where lyanna was
>>222152788can someone tldr the play?
>>222154171The ironborn can't stop raiding, honestly they might be the dumbest sons of bitches to ever live if not for the fact that the seven kingdoms never bother exterminating them
>>222154944Elia killed Aegon herself and then tried to seduce Gregor, he cut her in half out of disgust. It's dornish propaganda
>>222155113>loses two sons>kills one of rhaenyra's sons in revengeit's like poetry
>>222155102I’m not “theory crafting” and you’re getting pissy over idle speculation because it apparently contradicts “factual stuff that’s part of the story”>There's already a major battle happening in WinterfellHow is this relevant?
>>222155118Rhaegar arranges the Tourney at Harrenhal to tell the lords about his prophecy. He plans on telling them in Valyrian. Elia tells him to stop being an autistic moron.
>>222154949if the North goes independent the Faith means nothing to them, just prove the marriage wasn't consummated and she can marry in front of a weirwood
>>222155124>The ironborn can't stop raidingpurely for socioeconomic reasons
>>222155118Rhaegar and Elia were plotting to overthrow Aerys from the start. Things got complicated when Rhaegar got weird dream involving Lyanna, who shares the same dream and approach him to run away together. When the Rebellion happened, Elia was plotting to betray Rhaegar so she could overthrow Aerys and rule as regent for her son or whatever. The Dornish army under Elia's order did betray the king, but they were then killed by the rebels anyway for being the dirty traitors that they are. The rest is just a bunch of characters being gay whores.
What if Game of Thrones was colorful?
>>222154984he cute
NEW WHEN
>>222155175that would piss off the Manderlys
>>222155194The ironborn didndu nuffin. Euron a good boy.
>>222155198how could the dornish betray aerys at the battle of the trident?he wasn't even there and they fought the rebels.
>>222155175>if the North goes independent the Faith means nothing to themit's not happening because George doesn't like independence movements and is a globalist, it's why Robb failed>>222155170Your mother sucks cocks your theories suck
>>222155124dumbest thing is the Iron Islands and the North not having a tight alliance against the Andals. The North compliments them perfectly>both impossible to invade without dragons(or all of Westeros teaming up)>North can provide them with lumber for ships>Iron Islands can provide them with stuff from their raiding, ship building expertise>both refuse to follow the Faith of the SevenGRRM is a hack
>>222155277>>222155277>>222155277
The thread stretcher
>>222155256They kill Ser Jon Darry of the Kingsguard for no adequately explored reason
>>222155246>only house in the North that follows the Faith>were literally exiled by the South and owe everything to the Starksthey suck it up or the Starks replace them with another Northern house
>>222155272Your dad sucks cocks
>>222155256They were going to lose the battle on purpose to kill Rhaegar, march back into the capital and then sack it and kill Aerys. Basically what Tywin would end up doing. Which makes it poetic that Elia got ass raped in the exact same manners.
>>222155274Rob wanted that. MUH IRON PRICE idiots refused. The iron born are perpetual scum.
>>222155272>doesn't like independence movements>dornish win every war against the targslol
>>222155290>>222155312lmao based fanfic
>>222154959Everyone knows that Illyrio is the secret illegitimate great x 57 grandson of Aurion the Dragonlord.
>>222155198>Elia was plotting to betray Rhaegar so she could overthrow Aerys and rule as regent for her son or whatever.the fuck?
