/got/hotd/dunk/ previous >>222282500absolutely disgusting non-incestuous sex edition
first for bittersneed
The show really isnt that bad
>>222285416
blackwood or brackencall it
>>222285453It’s worse
>>222285480BRACKENfuck those demon tree worshipping, babe killing BLACKEDwoods
SER RAY OF HOUSE PERRFIRST OF HIS NAME
>SSSNNNIIIFFF
I'm not ready...
>>222285503
>>222285480I’ll take both
>>222285416Jews need to be hunted down and eradicated from the earth.
>>222285469>Speaks at you whispery and fast then stares incredulously, eyes bulged This is every Alicent scene
Who has the most kinslaying attempts (whether successful or not)?>Bloodraven>Euron Greyjoy>Alicent Hightower (show version)
>>222285538based and Blackfyre-pilled
>>222285541No, anon. On /tv/ we proudly stand with Israel.#Never Again
>>222285541Well yes. But Asian-American women are more at fault in this case.
>>222285585>This is every Alicent sceneI know, Olivia Cooke is perfect.
BEHOLD ME NOW /got/hotd/dunk/ !
He rocketed to top boi.
>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
>>222285718such a shame about his descendants
I stopped watching after season 2, what are the worst crimes of season 3? biggest rapes of source material?
>>222285718>can tell he struggles between self gain and the greater good>chooses the greater good despite it meaning certain death
>be me, Sheepstealer>the ugly bastard of dragons>be livin my best life, eatin' sheep and not bothering nobody>except sheepherders I guess, but meh>one of them two-legs found me, bothering me>share some sheep with her>finally I've made a new friend, life looking up>she gets on my back and we go for flying>directs me into some water fight, she's screaming some gibberish at me>freak out, dont know what's going on, so anyways I start blasting>something happened with one of the lil dragons>now everyone's mad at me>noodle dragon and his two-legs meets up with mine>suddenly two more dragons appear>they're all pissed at me>start fighting>watch my girl run away with that other bitch on the pussy yellow dragon, I was totally kicking its ass>abandoned by my only friend and beaten up by the noodleWhy are the Targ's so mean bros?He didn't do nothing wrong.
We're reaching levels of over I honestly did not think possible. He is staring the abyss in the face. He may not make it to 2027.
>>222285785Why did they give him such a retarded underbite?
mysaria is the worst as a character.Sonoya Mizuno is terrible as an actor.
>>222285785Sheepo actually survive a 3v1 that's more than what other dragons can say, also Ryrax is so fucking small... it's entire chest fit inside Sheepo's jaws.
>>222285818Probably inbred or something.bro is the dragon version of the Hapsburg, his family line is more interconnected than the Targaryens themselves.
Garbage writing. Why is the show so stupid?
>>222285785I don't care how powerful dragons are, a wild dragon is such a ridiculously bad idea based on appearance alone. It's like a nigger that speaks ebonics. Sheepstealer should've never been ridden. Demonstrating proof that Rhaena's nigger genes gave her a shit idea that didn't work out.
>>222285785>he didn't do nothing wrong
>>222285829Literally the Jar-Jar Binks of the franchise.
>We must ride, Queen Alicent has rode.
>>222285829what fucking "accent" is that. its so bad.
>>222285628Sara Hess is half Jewish.
>>222285902She fucked Cole and a hat in heat.
>>222285871Show is made by hack nepo jew lady for millenial women with the brains of 15 year old girls.
>>222285895At least Jar Jar didn’t try to lecture you all the time about da pipo and other shit (as far as I remember)
>>222285829>mysaria is the worst as a character.Sonoya Mizuno is terrible as an actor.But she has a magic vagina.
>>222285861Syrax is such a small ass dragon for being about as old as Rhaenyra is, shows that theory that dragons grow faster and bigger when unchained and free to hunt is true since Syrax is a lazy fuck who never hunts for herself.
Sunfrye returns, will he go to Dragonstone next?
>>222286003I was wondering if it can even fly.
>>222285785I want to see dreamfyre being defiled and degraded sexually by this thing
>>222286003No they are going to london
>>222285829>Sonoya MizunoHer best role was in Deus ex and that's because she couldn't speak.She also ruined Devs with her terrible acting.
This show is just some feminist slop fantasy for women isn't it?
>>222285881The only thing more baffling than the Targs letting any wild dragons like Sheepstealer or Grey Ghost existing is them allowing one like The Cannibal just roaming around, eating hatchlings and eggs and shit.Like if I was king whoever, and was told there was some mean ass dragon eating all the baby dragons on Dragonstone I would have at least tried to organize a hunt for it with my own dragon and some other riders.
>>222286015He will be able for a few more episodes.
>>222286003He comes…
>>222286033Gee whatever made you think that?
I want to remind you silverwing survived the war
I think it's cool that the show runners didn't play into the whole BBC stereotype. Having a normal penis makes Lord Corlys that much more relatable to his African American fans.
Helaena saying Dracarys was the best Dracarys
>>222286040Cannibal would prob kill any dragon 1vs1. They would prob need to hunt it with more Dragons. Imagine managing taming cannibal you would prob be the most badass dragonrider in the show.
so that ep was the most off the rails so far, right?
>>222285769There are too many to go into.
>>222285785she'll get him back. they will need in S4
>>222285416I stopped watching this shit since they butchered Blood and Cheese, but please tell me that's AI. That cannot be real, what the flying fuck
>>222286215True it gave me chills
>>222286215THEONETRUEQUEEN
>>222286299it was a dream sequence
Could they not have given him a backup dude
>seething writers couldn't netorasi their hekkin raenera by giving daemon his canonical tanned tomboy 1000 year old children of the forest gf >Show implodes
>>222286015>I was wondering if it can even fly.he has to fly, he has to make it to dragonstone to eat that bitch.
>Harrenhal is one of the largest castles on the continent>can somehow be ran and maintained by 1 woman and a badly injured man>despite having no garrison to defend it, no army has ever tried to capture it>but for some reason literally any random group of 2-4 people can sneak it at any time without any issue somehow and immediately find the 1-2 people living there
>>222285453It’s kind of hard to fuck up grrm
>>222286477Not hard at all for d&d or condom & mess
How does Ormund have better spies than Mysaria if he knows Ulf was struck in the streets and she knows jack shit about Ulf
>>222286316if she did that for real instead of in a dream maybe her side would have had a better chance of winning the war LOL
>>222286434>>222286556Stop thinking so much! Gosh!
Aegon The Second has the best story right now. I hope he fucking wins
>>222286434"let's keep sending groups of 3-4 one at a time, even though none ever come back alive, that'll work"
>>222286574aegon 3 sticks wins
>>222286574He wont
>>222286556because Ormund is actually a capable player, but he will still get an comically ungraceful death because he is a SEXIST MAN
When you think about it, it's kind of funny that some random guy in the 19th century just made up some bullshit about how human psychology works based on his own weird problems and so now hundreds of writers for decades have le subconscious incest themes in fiction because they think it's deep and intellectual but almost nobody actually relates to it at all.
will these threads survive until the next season of dunk?
>>222286621G E T F U C K E D
>enter kings landing>see this wat do?
>It aint gonna suck itself
>>222286689Good Egg
>>222286689Cope >>222286696The first hotd rape scene
>>222286356he dsidn't get to bring friends
DON'T JUST STARE AT IT!EAT IT!!!
>>222286711G E TF U U U C C K K E D
>>222286689OK but why's the medieval monarch wearing mid 20th century fascist attire?
>>222286705>"Etz Only Smellz Ur Grace"
>>222286772C O P E
>>222286788Egg has style
>Viserys I>Aegon II>Aegon IIIThis kills the Rahenyratard
>>222286556>>222286643It's funny. They wanted to rewrite the story to make it so Rhaenyra wasn't at fault for the city turning against her by making all the problems orchestrated by somebody else (Ormund), but by doing so they accidentally made Ormund the most brilliant and capable strategist in the entire war, and Rhaenyra and her entire council are made to look like incompetent idiots who sit around with their jaws gaping and their thumbs up their asses while Ormund runs circle around all of them.
>>222286804G E T R A P E DA N DF U C K E D
>>222286581Vlad, is that you?
Press S to praise Aegon the Resurrected and his golden dragon Sunfyre
>>222286833C O P EOPE
>>222286833So Aegon had someone skoop up Sunfyre shit and toss it in a coffin?
>>222286854No, Rhaenyra was so fat by that point that Sunfyre couldn't fit all of her in his stormach.
the dragon fighting was pure kino and I'm tired of pretending it wasn'tI wish the episode was just an hour of dragon fights, no human dialogue and the plot doesn't move forward at all
>what if instead of cucking Rhaenyra with nettles, it’s actually his daughter proving how wholesomerino daemon is with Rhaenyra and then Rhaenyra actually is a lesbian and cucks daemon with a brown girl insteadFUCKEN SLAAAAY
>>222286833When you're half chadtower and they show you the dead 'nyra storage
>>222286830All the chickens have come home to roost.
>>222286833Will be retconned into green propaganda, and the "real" story will be that Rhaerhae escaped to Essos with Mysaria and Alicent to spend the rest of their days in a lesbian polycule.
>>222286895Keep thinking we will get this
>>222286854Sunfyre was so weak after his duel with moondancer he wasn't able to eat the whole body.
I swear, leftists that truly drink the kool aid and become writers ultimately write ontologically evil and unlikable characters when trying to write good characters and make extremely based and sympathetic characters when attempting to write evil ones? What is this phenomenon, are they just morally repulsive? Do they lack humanity? This needs to be studied.
>>222286913It's canon, nothing Condom and Mess can do in their fanfic show will change that this is GRRM's canon
>>222286886>loves cgi sloppaBased marvel fan
>WE JUST NEED ANOTHER LESBIAN KISS SCENE WE JUST DO
>still complaining about writing quality of shlocky pulp fiction fantasy series where the whole point is that it's rule of cool and edgy for the sake of edgy and 50% smutI genuinely don't understand why asoiaf fans are like this. The tv show being written nonsensically like some kind of soap opera is still perfectly within the spirit of what the series actually is. It isn't some high-tier profound work of fiction so why should it even be acted and scripted like one and why is this even the expectation? The version of asoiaf that asoiaf fans constantly negatively compare the show to doesn't even actually exist, it only exists inside the fans' heads.
>>222286928Then why does it matter?
>>222286915lmao baela and moondancer was such an unnecessary poochie-tier moment
>>222286886That's the only good part of the episode>MUH EPIC SPEECH!Yeah lil bro that was impressive writing lmao
>>222286954>Sara this is the 12th time you've asked us to redo the lesbian sex scene how many takes can you possibly need?>Wait where did the camera man go? Why are you just filming us on your own phone?
>>222286965Stfu faggot nobody asked you
How the fuck am o not suppose to sympathize with Aegon when they turn him into a butt monkey and then have his own mother push him into and then vie for her own son’s death while absolving herself of responsibility? He’s le evil chud?
>>222286966It would still be nice to get it on screen>Mayhaps if they search the seven hells.
>>222286972It was necessary to kill sunfyre and doom Aegon.
>>222286984Atleast shes not a slut. Wait...
>burns his brother>abandons the queenwow what a piece of shit
>>222286915That makes no sense Dragons at their smallest are ridable. The size difference is cat to mouse, at worst Sunfyre ate her and later puked it up like a hairball.
>>222287028>The size difference is cat to mouseThis makes no sense
>>222286989He raped a girl once, the show will never let you forget that, because that serving girl he raped will be the one to kill him in season 4
>>222287004Aegon was already doomed and Sunfyre was already half crippled and dyingIt was utterly unnecessary. Baela could be entirely removed and nothing would change.
>>222287028What are you talking about? Sunfyre was small
>>222287028>OHHH YEAH I MIGHT AS WELL COME IN HERE AND ACT LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT
>>222287042Aegon was completely functional at that point tho, the duel with Baela fucked him for good and sunfyre wasn't dying at all in fact he was strong enough to kill grey ghost before moondancer.
>>222287022speaking of him, what was the point of him leaving Otto for Daemon? After everything with Harwin, and he'd obviously have known of his brother's relationship with Rhaenyra, there's no way they'd let him live.
>>222286989THE RATCATCHERS
>>222286177>that big-ass, oversized fingernailhorrifyingly disgusting features.
>>222287067Doesn’t change anything. Sunfyre was half crippled (of course it could eat a smaller dragon) and Aegon was going to be poisoned Baela could be removed and literally nothing would change
>>222286989the way your brain work sounds retarded
>>222287036>>222287048Aegon is at best about half the size of this things head
>>222285792He must be incontinent by now
>>222287109Sunfyre was going to live tho
Do it Sunfyre. End this shit show
>>222287067>Aegon was completely functional at that point tho???He was still partially crippled, burned and extremely handicapped.
>>222286356I see people call this guy Captain Price for some reason. Did he voice the Call of Duty guy or something?
>>222287129Mayhaps. Maybe not. He could barely fly. If a fight with a smaller dragon was enough to finish him, clearly he wasn’t healed or long for this world.
so what are the chances that they explain how Ormund's BIG GUY moseys out of Tumbleton and just happens to find EXACTLY where Corlys was in the woods? Are they gonna say Ulf sold him out? Or is Mysaria's dyke rice-nigger ass going to finally be revealed as a double agent?
>>222286705Is she confirmed to be a Ladyboy?
>>22228716350,000 people used to man Harrenhall. Now it's a ghost fort.
When Aemond was opening up to Alicent, when he confessed about Aegon which also shows regret, I thought>Ah yes, of course, Alicent is going to slap the cup out of his hand and tell him everything and have a wholesome family momentBut no the bitch actually went ahead and poisoned her son who was trying to open up to someone for the first time holy fuck KEK
>>222286989nobody is actually genuinely sympathetic in this series if you treat them like real people. Judging the characters based on how 'sympathetic' or 'morally good' or 'correct' you find them to be is just silly and missing the point of the kind of fiction that it is. You are supposed to like whoever you think is the coolest character and that's literally it; if you are liking characters based on nonsense like 'how much are they a proxy for my moral/social/political beliefs irl' or 'how morally correct are they' or 'how deserving of sympathy are they' you have missed the point entirely and are like a child that can't tell the difference between what is real and what isn't. asoiaf is not the kind of work of fiction that should be treated as approximate to reality of some representation of it in any way and it doesn't deserve to be treated in some high-minded manner like it's an intellectual exercise or informative about the human condition in anyway. It's literally light novel anime tier or women's romance fiction tier in reality.Normies actually understand this on an intuitive level more than the average anon which is why their reactions to it are less pretentious and more honest. Anons meanwhile act contrarian for the sake of some kind of autistic 'I have to be different and superior to the untermensch' complex and insist on treating a shlocky pulp fiction series as high art that 'the normies just don't get' and 'if only it was adapted properly!!!1' for baffling reasons.tldr nobody is telling you not to symapthize with whichever character you like except for the culture war shadows you box in your head and most people don't like Aegon because until now he had no aura and didn't do anything cool, that's literally it. Aemond fans will literally not care about the momcest thing just like Daemon fans about his antics, simply because Aemond is just fundamentally cool on some chuuni edgy anime character type thing.>>222286988cope
>>222287182He needed more resting but he was ok but the overexertion of the last duel killed him.
>YOU ARE THE CHALLENGE AEGON SIMPLY BY LIVING AND BREATHING EVERYONE IN THIS REALM KNOWS IN THEIR BONES YOU WILL ONE DAY BE KING>errmmm are you telling me viserys did not le agree with us that aegon should be king and that rhaerhae might... le DIE? ick, kill my sons PLEASE!By the writers retardation, Showlicent may just be the most desipicable person in all of Planetosi history. Worse than Craster, worse than Shownnis, worse than Walder Frey, worse than all of the masters of Slaver's Bay.
>>222287246She's craster tier in the sense that both Craster and Alicent enjoy massacring their sons
>sleeps with her boss cuz she’s so terrible at her jobWho is this character for, anyway? And her actress is terrible.
I wanted to like this show but seeing black dudes with white dreads everywhere is kind of a check out
>>222287291>Who is this character for, anyway?Sara Hess
>>222287201>50,000 people used to man HarrenhallWhy do people pretend GRRM is a good writer?
>>222287291>le secret spymaster grrrrrrll>insurgency in the city slaying her grrrrlll boss's dudes>does nothing>brings in her former pimp to show her how far she done come>former pimp tells her she'll always just be a whorethat fat pimp bitch is based ngl. if the Blacks weren't such fucking retards they would've just hired the actual whores and pimps to fight the hightower viet cong or at least you know, GIVE THEM INFORMATION, because their own "mistress of whispers" can't fucking do anything besides try and fuck with Daemon and Rhaenyra's relationshit. They could've replaced all of her scenes with Torrhen Manderley trying to unfuck the finances like a silly goober, but no we need grrrrrlll boss lesbo relationship.
>>222287342Because this is what's called "fluff", completely irrelevant to the actual writing. It's just meant to sparkle the imagination a bit.
>>222287342I was being facetious anon vis-a-vis the other anon's mention of people calling the character "Captain Price." I was referencing a line from the popular video game "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare" which has a mission located in Pripyat, Ukraine, the location of the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant. At one point in the mission, the character Captain Price says the line "50,000 people used to live here, now it's a ghost town."Are you a zoomer or brown?
>>222287368Crazy how sheepstealer isn't the ugliest thing in this image
>>222287246you're not supposed to think the characters actions are morally good, make sense or are consistent. You are supposed to understand that you are watching a story where everything that happens is caused by how the characters temporally react in that moment, with no long-term planning, based purely on their whims and emotions and that this is what actually drives humanity's descisions and the events of history - because this is the philosophy of the writers (including GRRM himself). The characters being contradictory irrational unwitting agents of chaos driven by their ever-changing whims and passions is literally the whole point.Where the audience/average anon breaks with the story and gets frustrated with it though is that the writers want you to still empathize with the characters and feel their emotions even in spite of this, because the writers (including GRRM) think that experiencing and feeling the emotions of any kind of human is a profound end in and of itself. But ultimately, this just means the series is just pure soap opera.
>>222287427Characters acting on impulse and characters acting nonsensically are two different thingsWhen I see Tyrion scream to the whole room he wishes he poisoned Joffrey he is acting on impulse, but the impulse MAKES SENSE, it's properly set up by the story, it fits his character, his built up rageDo not confuse the characters acting like people (making mistakes that however do make sense from their pov) and characters acting randomly because the writers are retarded.Alicent's switch at the end of season 2 as someone who desperately wants to kill every single child she has is NOT properly set up in a believable way, its a switch that gets activated for no reason and it sucks.
>>222287413Pretty sure it's MacMillan that said that, anon.
>>222287413I mean I doubted you but I checked before I posted and Google seems to agree with the 50,000 estimate which is so retarded for a medieval castle it beggars belief. Its like his descriptions of battle or Westeros climate or population models. None of them make sense.
>>222287427This is some retarded shit right here, are you one of the writers?
>>222287201wait THAT'S why they call him Captain Price? Any of the fucking other assassins could get that name. What a shit nickname
I hope none of you guys are responsible for smearing some... foul substance on the door of Lord Manderly's daughter.
>Won’t be able to see Helena’s saggy pregnant milky retard tits before she makes the jump. Worse offense of this shit show desu
>>222286422he'll fly but he'll be all fucked up and Rhaenyra will laugh at his crooked flight pattern which will make him eat her
>>222287507Allicent has been written consistently from season 1 onwards, it's telegraphed extremely hard that she never wanted to be married to Viserys and hates everything about it and her situation in life and was never close to her children and doesn't care for them at all and has always cared about Rhaenyra more on an almost repressed lesbian levelthe show establshed this early on even before Allicent changed actors but anons refuse to accept it or see it for some reason just because of 'muh book Allicent' or 'buh that's morally bad if a real life mother acted like that' as if it matters. Literally nowhere in the show from season 1 onwards has there ever been anything that suggests Allicent cared about her children and WOULDNT act like she does in season 3.It isn't bad writing, it's just writing that you don't like.
>>222287225
>>222286833>points at the screen as though he is pointing directly at (You) the viewer so you don't forget how this really ends
>>222287636>and was never close to her children and doesn't care for them at allDo rewatch episodes 6 and 7. She was willing to kill Rahenyra in front of the whole driftmark court to avenge Aemond's eye
>>222286854the only thing left of her was one leg
>>222287658Don’t listen to that retard, they’re obviously baiting the sad part is the amount of word vomit for a midwit bait take
seriously young alicent was so fucking hot has she done anything since hotd
>>222285416I had to ask Gemini to explain this to me - I only watched the main series as background noise. They really fucked up casting, appearances and age wise.
>>222287636>It isn't bad writing, it's just writing that you don't like.You’re even worse than a plebbitor because at least they wouldn’t go to these lengths just to be a contrarian retard who’s not convincing anybody
It would be fairly believable if Alicent only hated Aemond, since he started the war and tried to kill her other son and kinda wants to rape her it seems. I could see the loss of motherly affection for that one at least.
>forced to watch this fucked up guy roast your mom alive then messily eat her remains>he couldn't even finish her completely, the only thing left was a single legno wonder Aegon III had perma-PTSDif there's one thing they need to do they need to make it bad enough that it'll believably traumatize a child
>>222287808Aegon was right, Gaemon was a good heir he was king once.
BEHOLDMENOW
>>222287808Actually Aegon having ptsd from his mom dying is propaganda. He was actually Aegon IIs best lil buddy and wanted his mom to die and was in on the plan
>>222287953Reverse Alicent
>>222287658wasn't Allicent's actual motivations there that she resented Rhaenyra for letting her be married off and being with Daemon and then having bastard children? She was (hypocritically) seething about honor and dignity in that scene from what I remember. I also remember Allicent literally laughing at Aegon in season 1 before his coronation when he hasks her if she loves him; as well as her being spiteful and passive-aggresive to him in season 2 (which prompts him to drunkenly go into battle and get burned). Allicent's behavior in season 3 is not out of the ordinary, she has always been a hypocrite motivated by spite and self-preservation and whose main thing is just longing for freedom from her station in life and responsibilities. You can seethe about the morality of the character as if she's a real person but you can't say she is badly written. She is just as well written as most of the other characters in this soap opera of sociopaths.>>222287789I'm not being a contrarian, seeing normies reacting to the show 180-ing on Aegon purely because he had an aura scene in the latest episode has given me clarity about what the series is and how it should be engaged with. Anons are failing to engage with it correctly and incessantly complain about it because they for some bizarre reason think it's high art and should be held against some standard of good writing based on literally nothing and will invent criticisms that make no sense in order to justify their vague feeling of frustration that the shlocky story isn't le high art and meeting the invented standard that even the original source material absolutely does not deserve to be judged against or held up to.
>>222287993Show Alicent is seething because she had to marry and fuck Viserys while Rhaenyra did whatever the fuck she wanted and no one gave a shit
>>222287993Tldr: you’re a blacktranny and are having a very hard time coping now that Aegon is the undisputed favorite
Vaghar is so lucky she was claimed Aemond, and not those two "pure valyrian stock" bums
>>222286040The wild dragons mean more potential eggs if they can snag them.
>>222287993>Anons are failing to engage with it correctly and incessantly complain about it because they for some bizarre reason think it's high art and should be held against some standard of good writing based on literally nothingYou’re not some genius that just made this discovery for us, we all know this show is slop meant for big yaskween moments. We also aren’t basing it on “nothing,” it’s based on viewing GoT s1-4 and AKotSK s1, recognizing they’re kino and comparing it to this slop. I’m not reading anything you wrote past what you quoted since you’ve outed yourself as a midwit and I don’t expect you to understand why we have expectations of something we watch not being nonsensical garbage.
>>222288028This is the only logical reason I can conclude as to why they would make an appeal to normie here of all places.
Oh that's why she's doing this. I've been wasting my time trying to apply logic but now I get it
sunfyre's return was so forcking good I saw a spark of madness within meself
>>222285416Is it Alcient's master plan to murder all her children then herself because she scissored with a girl who was fucking her uncle and a street whore back in the day? The messaging in this show is so off I kinda just wanna see Daemon and Aemond kill each other. The girl brained writing in this show is so painful.
>>222288259You type kinda girl brained bro.
>>222288196I basedfaced, I kneel for my king, he's the only decent thing left in this shitshow
Is it me or does Aegons sister wife on the left in this official art look like Amber Heard?
>>222288192Kek the abortion propaganda was in full bloom during the moon tea scenes. Apparently, the not so noble ladies of Westeros were taking moon tea all willy nilly.
>>222288100>we all know this show is slop meant for big yaskween momentsno, you don't understand. I am saying even the original source material itself is also likfe this, therefore the show being some messily written soap opera where the whole point is spazzing out about how heckin epic the dragons are or whatever is still within the spirit of the original work and is fine. GRRM himself permanently invalidated asoiaf ever being worthy of being considered high-art or being treated as such by prattling on about Dany's diarrhea or smut scenes involving fat pink members. The scene of JAime and Cersei having sex nect to Joffrey's corpse alone completely utterly invalidates the entire franchise of ever being deserving of treated as serious le deep well-written fiction just because of how laughably edgy it is.I am saying the whole franchise itself is inherently soap opera slop on a fundamental level so complaining about the tv adaption not being "well written" is just baffling and silly. Literally the whole point of the series is just that you are meant to think it's cool and to enjoy the edginess and hype and aura moments, because ultimately that is what the soul of the series really is.>it’s based on viewing GoT s1-4GoT season 1 is literally filled with pornographic sex scenes in the vein of Spartacus for no apparent reason and features characters as absurd as Ramsey and scenes about a guy having his dick cut off treated as comedy for the audience to laugh at. The whole thin is neanderthal monkey-brain shit on a base level. It isnt high art no matter how many witty Peter Dinklage or Lena Heady one-liners and banter there were.>>222288028Aegon is the undisputed favorite for now because this is a shlocky pulp fiction series and he had an aura moment.
>>222287122Do you really think that cats catch mice?
>>222288259Yes, she wants to crash her family with no survivors
>>222288327>characters as absurd as RamseyRamsay is insane, impulsive and deranged yet act consistently and not once do you think "he wouldn't do this what the fuck"He's the perfect example to debunk your retarded argument about the writing being all the same.Also I don't see how sex scenes and cock jokes have ANYTHING to do with itYou have cock jokes so you cannot also have good characters? You can't call out the terrible scenes? What is this retardation of an argument even supposed to be?
>>222288302All he ever needed was to be outside a little
>>222288306All three were based off real people. Amber Heard, Dolph Ludgren, and I forget who Rhaenys is supposed to be.
>>222285503is it really that easy?
>>222285709just when you thought it was so over it turned out that we're so back
At least a decent amount of shit happened in this past episode.
Only ser perkin can save this tranny show
>>222287368The lighting and superimposition of actors on the background was SO bad.
>>222288336>Do you really think that cats catch mice?I mean either they catch them themselves or someone routinely shoves a half alive one in my cats mouth to dump on the welcome matt. What mouse catching conspiracy theory do you subscribe to?
>>222286003He looks like a scary zombie dragon
>>222285709Glad he finally got his moment when he showed some balls and didn't just catch a random arrow in the throat or something
>>222288403>not once do you think "he wouldn't do this what the fuck"yeah, and I think Allicent WOULD do all the things she does in season 3 based on how she was before that>your retarded argument about the writing being all the samemy argument is not that the writing is incoherent, but that the writing is consitently shlocky and egy e.g. a series that features incestuous murderers like Jaime being portrayed as cool by the narrative or lunatics like Ramsay being treated as comedic sometimes or having absurd contrived scenes that do not reflect how any real human would act such as the Jaime and Cersei sex scene next to their son's corpse would also be perfectly fine having an irrational hypocritical mother out to kill her own children as a character or nonsense like the momcest scenes with Aemond.>I don't see how sex scenes and cock jokes have ANYTHING to do with ityou can't have superfluous gratituious sex scenes *for the sake of tittilating the audience* or things as crude as cock jokes *that don't serve the narrative* and also have it be an actually serious work of fiction, no. It just doesn't work.>You have cock jokes so you cannot also have good characters? the whole issue is that asoiaf fans don't just treat the series like it's a well-written pulp fantasy work that has cock jokes - they think it's actually an above and beyond work of fiction with realistic profound depictions of the human condition and authentic realistic human drama or some such nonsense like that and are incessantly holding the soap opera tv show adaptation to this standard and incessantly complaining about it even though the books themselves are ALSO soap opera.
More Aegon aura moments to look forward to >Aegon recaptures dragonstone with the help of Tom tangle tongue and Alfred broome>aegon kills Rhaenyra >aegon kills that velaryon girls dragon >aegon burns Shepard
>>222288768Also >Aegon reclaims kings landing with help of borros Baratheon
>>222288768Sunfyre getting raped by a meme like Moondancer is not heckin aura zoomie.
>>222288741>yeah, and I think Allicent WOULD do all the things she doesOh yeah you have already make clear you are retarded>or things as crude as cock jokes"and he had of his ass made a trumpet"This is the line Dante uses for his silly demon who uses farts as a signal to communicate in the Divine Comedy.Now mind you, I do NOT think asoiaf is high art, but i do think the argument "it mentions cocks and often makes jokes, therefore it CANNOT have good writing" is an argument only an actual retard would make and expect to be taken seriously, which is why I said you have made clear you are retarded.You are the prime example of a pseud, you rant about "high art" (THAT NOBODY HAS MENTIONED) and how you are just above the writing of this franchise (which you still consume) yet your arguments reveal both ignorance in the topic of literature and idiocy as even with ignorance you SHOULD be able to realize your arguments do not follow any sort of logic.>there are stupid jokes>therefore the character writing cannot be discussedThere is no logic that connects these two statements, your argument does not exist, it misses the logical link that makes an argument an argument. You are, as they say, "just saying shit" hoping it makes you look smart and cultured but it does not. What an actual simian like you considers worthy of being "serious" is not my concern for you are not a serious person whose thoughts are valuable, at all.
>Rhaena gets a 45 second head start>Adamm catches her in 3 secondshe fast
>>222288797C O P EOPE
>helaena dreams of her and her kids with chickens >no Alicent even when Alicent wants to save her >aegon and aemond want Alicent to be a mom>she hates themKek
>>222288914She's a small malnourished woman
>>222288952Alicent tried to make her abandon her daughter and give her abortion drinks, Haelena is right fuck Alicent.Aemond and Aegon simply don't know yet what kind of satanic beast she has become
why does tyland lannister look like dave portnoy?
Shut up cunts it’s Aegon time
>>222287291She's for me. I felt my benis twitch once she started laying the seduction on Rhaenyra.
explain how sunfyre survives a whole month in the same place he crashed in and no one on the Blacks bothers to check the place where the FUCKING KING of the enemy faction supposedly fell, for a corpse or anything, or his DRAGON
>>222288853>Dante's Divine Comedyisn't high art either>you rant about "high art" (THAT NOBODY HAS MENTIONED)no, I am saying that asoiaf fans themselves vaguely appeal to some nebulous notion of it in their criticisms of the tv show because the complaints are always either obsessively about how a characters actions 'don't make sense' (in terms of being a highly moral, sane, rational, sensible agent) or that it 'isn't like the books' as if the books themselves are de-facto taken to be some kind of infallible gospel that you can't deviate from, implying they must think the books are some kind of higher art to even deserve not being deviated from or that doing so is sacrosanct. I am saying that since the books themselves are also shlocky slop and that the whole point of the entire franchise is that 'these characters are all whimsical fucktards driven by their passions and emotional ambitions in service of making the story as edgy and tittilating and melodramatic and cool as possible' that the aforementioned complaints about the tv show version make no sense.I think actual 'high art' almost doesn't exist btw and is just vaguely appealed to in order for people to complain about a story and they grasp at things like 'realism' or 'logic' to try to justify why a story and its characters don't meet the standard.My own definition of true high art would be a story where absolutely nothing is superfluous or wasteful in the stry, where literally every single story beat and line and event serves the overall narrative and nothing is divergent from it or perfunctory and the characters' actions and even personalities serve it and there is nothing cajoling or winking at the audience or meandering to have fun on the side like random cock jokes or gratutious scenes, where all of it is necessary and ONLY what is thematically necessary. Obviously, I think almost no work of fiction meets this standard, or at least not many.Basically, most fiction shouldn't be taken seriously.
If you supported the Whore until S3 E7, you are NOT loyal to our King. You are a normie and will burn with the rest of the blackcels.
>>222289094Don't worry about it
>>222287291It's Sarah Hess's self insert.She has a WHITE GIRL on ASIAN GIRL fetish.
>don't come to this shop anymore bastard Queen
>>222289114>vaguely appeal to some nebulous notion of itAppealing to consistent writing is not appealing to "high art", good writing is the bare minimum. >I think actual 'high art' almost doesn't exist btw and is just vaguely appealed to in order YOU appealed to it, you are the ONLY person appealing to itYOUR argument is "it's not high art so you should not take it seriously", yet then you will also say "it almost doesn't exist", so at the end your position is some "don't take anything seriously never discuss anything never criticise anything lol" which just makes you look like a clown.>Basically, most fiction shouldn't be taken seriously.Why not? You are YET to explain why the presence of a cock joke forbids serious discussion about the characters. You repeating the same thing over and over does not make it true. You are wrong, there IS such a thing as good and bad writing outside of high art. There IS such a thing as a good character, the fact that YOU cannot distinguish a good character from a bad one is a failing you alone must bear.
>>222286689
Wait why would dragonfire affect the Targaryens?
>have six dragons>don't do anything with themclassic foid logic
>>222289210Because Dany is dumb
>>222289210He’s a fake targ Hightower
>>222289210it always didthe times fire didn't affect Dany in the books were because of magic shit happening during the birth of her dragons and in GoT they just added another one when she burned the Dothraki for no fucking reason
>>222289216Rhaenys busted through the floor killing thousands of smallfolkbut thankfully she made sure to spare Aegon assuring the war would take place
>didn't watch even a second of this show>enjoy the shitposting
>>222289094>Book >pissed off dragon kills fiddy men who thought they were him and could kill a dragon then flies away >TV>Peasants are pulling scales and shit of of still alive sleepy dragon for several months(s) as it rots in woods >Bides his time through all of that waiting for his psychic bond to tell him his rider is aura farming hard enough
Aegon>Invokes the gods and they give him the mandate of heavenRahenyra>Asks a whore's pussy if she's worthyWow, I truly do wonder who the legitimate heir of the iron throne is.
>>222287223
>>222287291She’s for da peepo, yor grace
I'd sharpen all the edges on the iron throne as a prankjust sitting and resting your arms and back on razors
>>222289120In fact, we will not simply burn you. We are going to RAPE you And it’s going to be RIGHTEOUS and GLORIOUS
>>222289329Eyes bulging with imagined dead sons
>>222285748>such a shame about his descendantshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nvsGz70ZT0About Lannisters ending retarded branch of Targs?Or about preventing another Hour of the Wolf by taking vengeance on Black cocksuckers?
We are so back
>>222289186>Appealing to consistent writing is not appealing to "high art", good writing is the bare minimumyou and others here have arbitrarily conflated 'what I don't like (morally)' or 'what I think is sane' with 'good writing.' Allicent wanting to kill off her own children morally triggers you and makes you seethe so you call it bad writing. Rhaenyra being a hypocritical incestuous emotional incompetent fucktard morally triggers you so you call it bad writing. Aemond being a schizo freak with mommycest issues morally triggers you so you call it bad writing. It ISNT bad writing, you just don't like it.asoiaf fans hate the soap opera melodrama shlocky nonsense of the tv show literally just because they themseves are incoherent and contradictory; when there is morally fucked weirdness and irrational behavior in the books it's 'good writing' and 'kino' but when the tv show has some other different irrational and morally fucked behavior it's 'bad writing' and 'doesn't make sense.'HOTD does in fact have 'good writing' as a bare minimum it's just that said writing is different to the books and because it's different suddenly you notice how irrational and morally fucky it is and how it's all shlocky soap opera - but you simply didn't notice that the books themselves are also like this, just another flavor of shlocky soap opera melodrama purely because of the utter arbitrariness and bias of it being the book version. It's all equally shlock.>you are the ONLY person appealing to itno, asoiaf fans are vaguely grasping at and appealing to a notion of higher art by making arguments like 'the characters' decisions don't make (rational/moral) sense' in the tv show and complaining about gratutious scenes (that a work of high art would never have) like the Rhaenyra x Mysaria scenes even though the original source is already fucking like this but just in different ways.And POINTLESS cock jokes do mean you can't take it seriously since it shows the priority and genre.
>>222289436And Honeyholt, I shupposhe, is off the table ash well?
>>222285416So is the new season of HOTD any good or it's complete garbage?
>>222285931millenial women do not want this
>>222285718Only Lannister that isn't a spoiled cunt, I'll give him that.
>>222285469Greens were literally motherfuckers in the HBO version?
>>222289120Motherfucking based may Ser Criston post in peace
>>222285746Ayyy it's chel.
>>222289450better than season 2 anyway but they're really dragging their feet and not all that much really happens episode to episode post episode 2 or 3
>>222289450Why do you keep asking the same question? In no world does HotD ever become not garbage, however last ep was the best of s3 IMO
>>222289479Not literally. It was just a bad dream.
>>222289440>here have arbitrarily conflated 'what I don't like (morally)'No we didn't, we pointed out that Alicent's action do not belong to the Alicent that was being set up in season 1. She was never a good mother but she never hated her sons, she MIGHT have grown hostile to Aemond, bu selling out Aegon? Daeron?The idea that after Blood and Cheese she would trust Rahenyra nad go there to sell out her family is ridiculous. It's a change of her character that was not set up and is thus unappealing.>no, asoiaf fans are vaguely grasping at and appealing to a notion of higher art by making arguments like 'the characters' decisions don't make (rational/moral) senseNo, but I do find HILARIOUS you think "things should make sense" is an appeal to high art after you JUST SAID nothing is high art, because the implication is that you think almost nothing makes sense. I do wonder how the world look trough your eyes, I genuinely have no theory of mind for you, I cannot imagine living life believing the concept of things making sense is some alien appeal to unreachable high art.>And POINTLESS cock jokes do mean you can't take it seriously since it shows the priority and genreI don't see how the presence of a cock joke means the cock joke is the priority OR the central focus of any given book/episode, whatever.You keep repeating this argument that, as I said, has no logical nexus or connection in it. You can add things without them being the priority, George's priority are compelling characters, but he also add rich food descriptions. Are rich food descriptions the one and only priority of asoiaf? Obviously not, they are just fluff, their presence does NOT imply priority or focus, he just likes to add some food description, and I do enjoy reading them.
>>222289450>So is the new season of HOTD any good or it's complete garbage?I gave up after E02 and will (maybe) marathon it after it's over (with my finger on the FF button). I only scroll thru here to see if there are any new memes (there aren't) until S02 of Dunk & Egg comes around.
>>222289583Don’t feed the baiters
>>222289479Harrenhal messed with his head while he was fucking Alys (similar with Darmon dreaming about his mother), he got shooked when the real Alicent showed up he was actually making sure she was real on that scene.It's great.
>>222289436This scene following Aegon was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
>>222285785When the targshits take sheep to feed their dragons, the realm just calls it tax, and they thank their targshit rulers for the privelage. When he takes sheep to feed himself, the realm brands him a thief. They call him "Sheep stealer" and they beseech the targshits to help deal with the "problem". It's not fucking fair, bros.
Why did they choose such an ugly person to play Alys? Was she canonically ugly in the books too?
>>222289762No but they only cast bustes bitches
>>222289749What this proves is not that sheepstealer is not a thief but that taxes are theft.This post was brought to you by the Littlefinger gang.
>>222289770And none of them show their tits. What a waste.
Phia is the hottest girl in the show desu
Varys and littlefinger really run rings around mysaria's network
>>222289583>we pointed out that Alicent's action do not belong to the Alicent that was being set up in season 1>bu selling out Aegon? Daeron?>it's a change of her character prove, using only the show, that Allicent as depicted in season 1/early season 2 WOULDNT sell out her children like Aegon or Daeron, prove she actually loved them and cared about them.>No, but I do find HILARIOUS you think "things should make sense" is an appeal to high art No, asoiaf fans like you have arbitrarily decided that 'things making sense' is just whatever you find reasonable or like e.g. Allicent not wanting to happily kill her own children because she only really cares about Rhaenyra and freeing herself from her circumstances above all else as in the aforementioned. asoiaf fans when they are talking about things 'not making sense' or being 'badly written' are almost ALWAYS talking about either 1) 'it isn't like the books, the show version of the character clashes with what book version's actions would be, this just heckin doesn't make sense, whuuuut' or 2) 'this doesn't make sense because it's irrational/unreasonable/stupidly evil/morally bad/just idiotic.' Literally every complaint is like this, except for the fast travel/teleporation complaint which is like the only actually valid complaint.asoiaf fans when they make these complaints however are implicitly suggesting they think the BOOK characters or some nebulous other better version of them *wouldn't* act like this because it's taken as a de-facto premise that 'asoiaf is well written to the degree that no character acts in a way that is shlocky or stupid/irrational etc.' i.e. as if it's a work of high art.>I cannot imagine living life believing the concept of things making sense is some alien appeal to unreachable high artyour definition of 'things making sense' is where people/characters don't act irrational or stupidly immoral, is my point. Showllicent still DOES 'make sense' it's just that she's horrible as a person.
>>222289831they were able to perfect the art over the next 150 years. she laid the foundations for them. ahead of her time really
>>222289747>>222289436On a scale of zero to ten ales, how are we feeling, Team White Lads?
>>222289836Kys
NOTONEALE
beholding the fuck out Aegon rn
>>222285416umm sars, why did baela snitch immediately this episode but didn't after episode 1 after seeing her sister riding the dragon?
I get that Aegon wasn't afraid of the army but what are the odds that he and Tyland would camp in the middle of the woods directly in their marching path?
>>222289527>bad dreamIt wasn't bad. He has an Oedipus complex and the witch took advantage of it trying to get him to impregnate her. You saw it earlier in the series when Aegon mocked him for being attached to the hag prostitute who punched his v-card.
>>222289524Last episode sucked ass. It just had one good scene.
>>222289879suicide is a mortal sin, so I can't. Sorry anon.
>>222289836>prove, using only the show, that Allicent as depicted in season 1/early season 2 WOULDNT sell out her children like AegonWhen Aegon rapes a girl, she is mad at him, but she also covers the whole thing up. The reason she is at first on board with Otto is because she believes Rahenyra will kill her children (not, blood and cheese would REINFORCE that notion), when Aemond loses an eye she goes apeshit and risks her own life by acting on rage and impulse, when she feels like she failed her sons she asks Gwayne about Daeron because she feels that she failed her sons as a mother rather than her sons being at fault. Everything about Alicent would indicate that she'd go down with the ship for her sons all the while blaming herself.>your definition of 'things making sense' is where people/characters don't act irrational or stupidly immoralIn this very show Aemond out of impulse acts immorally and irrationally, yet when he does its been set up properly. One might dislike the decision to make him burn Aegon, but it IS something show Aemond would do, it does make sense. Tyrion at the trial acts impulsively, and in the books in pure rage against Jaime he lies and tells him he DID kill Joffrey. Jaime could kill him right there, Tyrion is acting both irrationally and immorally as he's lying with the intent to hurt, but it makes sense, it was set up and it was in character.
>>222289527>Not literally. It was just a bad dream.he was hallucinating
>>222289955>It wasn't bad.Yes, it was.
>>222289879I told you not to give him (You)’s the guy’s an immense retardfaggot and makes absolutely no sense
>>222289959I liked the dragon fight idgaf about any of the dragons except maybe Dreamfyre
>>222289777>taxes are thefttheft would be not getting the benefit of anything the taxes are paying for.we pay taxes on things like fuel in the US and that money goes to the roads we drive on. property tax goes to the schools. federal taxes go to regulating bodies and the military.unless the tax is literally being lit on fire for warmth you're going to be getting a benefit from the taxes you pay, and if you're some poorfag ((You) are), the benefits you get massively outweigh the price you are paying compared to the rich.
new notablog>the worst may be yet to comebros...
>>222290047His wife must be sick
>>222290045
>>222290045>theft would be not getting the benefit of anything the taxes are paying for.Just because the thief uses the money on something doesn't make it not theft. Unless you can prove that every cent is going exactly where I would have spent it if it was in my hands, then that money is still being stolen, just with an excuse.
>>222288094I don't think eggs were a problem at this point. They had more than they were able to hatch.
>>222290027Jurassic Park II tier
>>222289961>your first paragraphmaybe you're right, I might need to rewatch it then. However, I was always under the impression Showllicent was driven by spite against Rhaenyra combined with preserving her own image and that her family was just an extension of that (until it became unnecessary). The key scenes that reinforced this to me were the scenes of her having sex with Viserys in season 1 where she is grimly staring at the ceiling, her floating in the lake staring at the bird (symbolizing wanting to be free of her responsibilities) and the way she generally treated Aegon. All of it seems to point to that she hated being married off, being a mother and everything about her life and couldn't wait to escape from it + early scenes with monke Rhaenyra showing she cared about her more than anything else. My read on Showllicent was that this superceded everything else. Allicent's actions in season 3 are not surprising to me especially given how shlocky and pulp fiction the overall series already is; once you come to realize that every character action is just to maximize edginess and titillating entertainment value like a soap opera, then it all makes sense. A series that goes out of it's way to include so much gratuitous shock factor and audience pleasing/stimulating bullshit having a character like Showllicent is not really that out of pocket.>>222290003can't argue with those trips, guess I am a retardfaggot
>>222286556Having dumb whore run CIA might have been bad idea i guess
>“Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up, she was shitting brown water. The more she drank the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew.”- George R.R. Martin
>>222290047Can't wait for him to die. Then we'll get whatever manuscript he has finished atleast.
>>222285416What in the fuck is the point of this. Daemon and Aemond need to just kill each other already.
>>222289889Live ur truth, king
>>222285416Is this played straight or is this some Alys Rivers bullshit/dream/wishful thinkingI might need to actually watch the stupid fucking CGI dragon show after giving up halfway through just to see how stupid it gets
>>222290249Alys bullshit, she's having sex with him but he's hallucinating his mother, after he realizes he freaks out and runs out of the room
>>222289982It was gross but it wasn't a "bad dream", ESL.
>>222290273It was a hallucination, literal-kun. Have a nice autism.
faegon is going to win and that means 3 things:>daemon won>bittersteel won>cuckraven lost
>>222290302>daemon wonAt being a cuck.
is Alicent more for rape or incest?
>>222290302fAegon will be the only Blackfyre to get the throne but he will 100% die as part of the arc that turns dany evil
>>222290319She's for meaningless side-plots that add nothing.
>>222290312Out of the 3 people mentioned in the post Daemon is precisely the one who's not a cuck, while the other two were fighting over the whore of babylon.He meant Daemon Blackfyre, not the hotd Daemon.
>>222290302>>cuckraven lost>>222290324
>>222290359That is Aemond's blood though
Um can someone explain this to meSo Aegon fled King's Landing because he was tired of being a cripple king right?Then Rhaenyra took King's LandingSo why doesn't Rhaenyra just send people looking for a burnt-cripple and cripple duo (Larys Strong)?.... She has people in King's Landing, including former Small Council members who KNOW what Aegon's condition is, and what he looks like, and it's ridiculously easy to chase a cripple and identify cripples. So how the fuck does Rhaenyra not prioritize finding this missing king who is a threat to her throne and started a war for it?
>>222290224wish they included this scene in the show
>>222290381>because he was tired of being a cripple king right?No? It's because he was afraid Aemond wanted to kill him and Rahenyra had the advantage so if it wasn't Aemond it would have been her.>So why doesn't Rhaenyra just send people looking for a burnt-cripple and cripple duo (Larys Strong)?She opted for the "declare him dead" plan believing his dragon is dead. Since very few people know of his cripple condition, if a cripple were to appear and claim to be him it would be easy to dismiss. Sunfyre being alive fucks over this plan (which is admittedly a stupid ass plan, as people like Tyland could vouch for his legitimacy anyway, you are correct that she should be looking for him)
>>222290359>I must become a tree and be killed by the nights king so that a stark can be the king….o-ok, t-thank you creepy tree man?
>>222290047I like when even writers make typos
knowing exactly what's in the books so that you can tell when they're padding out the show with a bunch of pointless bullshit is perhaps the greatest curse of all
>>222285416You guys gotta admit, we all been in this situation at least once.
>>222290483I have played wegs with a similar plot
>>222290335They were all cucked, which is based. Deamon was just cucked by his ex and wife, which is a double cucking.
>>222290452lol nerd
>>222285785This is the only character on the show who is interesting or relatable in any way lol
>>222285792Just use AI you fat fuck
>>222285792I will miss him when he's gone.
>>222285792He should just drugs at this age to make himself feel better
>give people the equivalent of WMDS>treat them like shit, don't even let them have an ale with the ladsthe FUCK was the BITCH QUEEN thinking?
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>>222285785>>222285890>He was not aggressive towards humans unless provoked, but could be vicious and ill-tempered. He had a taste for mutton. While he devoured the occasional sheep dog, he never harmed a shepherdmy pibbles never hurt nobody!
>>222288963>Aemond and Aegon simply don't know yet what kind of satanic beast she has becomejust makes her hotter and more fuckable. evil women make my dick rock hard.
>>222288974i had the same thought and checked his wiki. no early life section.
