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Benjamin Sisko edition
Last time on /trek/ >>222885761
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what was "the incident"?
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>>222909871
The program "unlimited nuggie worx" went sentient
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let's continue discussing Archer's worst moments. that's fun to me.
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>>222909982
I think WHAT THE FUCK TRIP YOU TAUGHT THAT SLAVE HOW TO READ AND NOW THESE SUPPOSED ENLIGHTENED ALIENS ARE MAD AT ME!!?? FUCK YOU!!!! was his worst
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sex
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star trek sex resulting in vulcan psychic AIDS
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Bombard Vissia with quantum torpedoes.
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>>222909982
insectoid nursery was probably the best unhinged archer. night in sickbay also deserves a lot of consideration. havent decided how i feel about him telling sim hes gonna harvest his brainstem come hell or high water, but i think i like it.
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>>222910092
>haha we're so much more enlightened and advanced than you silly humans :)
>you think it's weird that sentient beings are just a fuckdoll to us? HOW DARE YOU JUDGE OUR CULTURE!
hated these smug pieces of filth
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>>222910122
insectiod nursery was like the one time I felt like Archer was acting in the way I would actually expect a Starfleet captain to. of course you have to save helpless babies even if they're of the race of your enemy. they can't help that. it's like a no brainer for anyone with integrity. but no, it turns out he was only like that due to literal mind control. and of all the terrible reckless and unhinged things Archer did, saving babies was the thing everyone was about to mutiny over. Enterprise is so depressing. you watch it and you're like damn maybe humanity is fucking lame and we don't deserve to go to space.
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>>222910092
>>222910159
It's a crying shame they wasted the best actor from Babylon 5 on a terrible fucking episode
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>>222909871
Trepku’s rape-horse holoprogram became self-aware and raped everyone on the ship.
>>222910092
Oh shit it’s the one-armed man who killed Harrison Ford’s wife.
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>>222910242
You don't understand. This was after 9/11. Those insects were Taliban babies and spiritually responsible for the laser that circumcised Florida.
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>>222910092
Commander Tomalak??
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Star....TREK
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>>222910683
BARASH?!
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>>222909846
Am I the only one who likes Avery Brooks? I like his dry humor and quirky choices and line deliveries. Not saying he's the best actor on the show by any means, but I'm still entertained.
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another one of Archer's worst moments is when he let the ship get taken over by Orions. he constantly falls for Looney Tunes tier "look over there!" types of scams and ruses and refuses to adhere to even the most basic common sense protocols to keep the ship and crew safe. like im not even in the military but I have worked on government contracts and I practice more opsec in a daily basis just writing code than Archer ever did on the entire show being in charge of the most advanced technology humanity ever created
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>>222910875
Entertaining? sure, I chuckle AT his LINES, OHH HOW I... chuckle...
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>>222910875
youre not the only one. hes what you call a pleb filter.
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>Watch Nemesis
>Worf does jack shit the whole movie
>Even Troi is more useful than him
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>>222910875
ds9 hater here (one of many)
love brooks. if they had a serious captain i wouldnt be able to enjoy ds9 ironically as i have for decades. i dont know if its him or the writers or berman or what but sisko has a knack for going off the rails right when i start getting bored with the all soap opera will they wont they shit.
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>>222911097
what do you want him to do. at that point he was a diplomat serving under the coward martok running the empire as a vassal state of the federation. if only he knew thats why section 31 kidnapped him from kithomer.
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he's in 174 episodes but i feel like these one scene jobs happen a lot more than with the other captains. was that part of the plan or just how it worked out?

[Captain's office]

ODO: Captain, here's the report on that smuggling ring you requested. Should I forward the information to the Zevian authorities?
SISKO: I'll let you know in a minute.
(As Sisko reads the PADD, Odo begins humming 'The Way You Wear Your Hat')
ODO: (singing) No, no, they can't take that away from me. The way your smile just beams.
(Sisko is clicking his fingers to the beat.)
ODO: Yes, Captain?
SISKO: Oh, don't stop on my account.
ODO: Stop what?
SISKO: You were singing.
ODO: I was singing?
SISKO: (sings) No, no, they can't take that away from me.
ODO: You're right. I was singing. They can't take that away from me.
SISKO + ODO: We may never, never meet again on that bumpy road to love.
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>>222910907
you just dont get why we're out here but we love you anyway, malcolm.
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>>222911399
No, after rewatching DS9 several times I start to notice that Sisko is less present than any of the other captains. He's in every episode, but many of them for only one scene.
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>>222909871
He just downloaded the Barclay program.
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>>222911399
>>222911555
ds9 is the only truly ensemble trek show and hads loads of side characters so ofc any single character isn't in it as much
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>>222911620
It's because he's a lazy NIGGER
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>>222911620
my question is from the 1990s perspective. was it planned for sisko to play a smaller role and develop the rest od the cast or was that forced by brooks being a nut?
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>>222911719
he isnt a nut.
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>The decision to set the series on a space station, rather than a starship, spawned when Brandon Tartikoff originally approached Rick Berman about the show, in 1991, and specifically said he wanted it to have a format that was new for Star Trek but was classically western; if The Next Generation was Wagon Train in space, Deep Space Nine was to be The Rifleman in space – a man and his son coming to a dilapidated frontier town on the edge of known civilization. Berman brought this concept to Michael Piller, and together they set about creating a western in space. As Robert Hewitt Wolfe later explained, "We had the country doctor, and we had the barkeeper, and we had the sheriff and we had the mayor, we had it all, it was all there. We had the common man, Miles O'Brien, the Native American, Kira."
Huh. It's true, isn't it.

>>222911719
I think it was planned that way
>As Rick Berman, speaking in 2002, stated, "The show was land-based, but the benefit we got from that was that by staying in one place, it enabled us to create twenty or thirty secondary and recurring characters, which really enriched the show because of all the multi-layers of relationships that have existed over the years. It's a very character-driven show as a result, and I think that makes it quite unique."
Avery Brooks had been working in television for quite some time at that point so I'm pretty sure they were familiar with his quirks.
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>>222911807
Yes, more Trek fans need to watch old westerns like Wagon Train and The Rifleman.

They really don't realize what they're missing out on or how familiar those shows will feel to them.
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Next week on Star Trek: Strange New Worlds: pike get mpreg
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>>222909846
Star Trek is for people who have no friends.
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>>222911807
>the Native American, Kira
akoocheemoya
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Data's brain which should have been an episode title is too complex to be replicated. The Doctor, on the other hand, can be perfectly recreated ad infinitum and he does not deserve rights. I was rock hard when his crush created a version of him that was a better singer. Fuck that faggot.
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>>222912312
>was a better singer.
kek autistic star trek fans are hilarious
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Anyone care to buy a matter to antimatter converter?
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>>222912405
why would I want antimatter?
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>>222912312
>Data's brain is too complex to be replicated
It's only because he's made from old analog technology which no one specializes in anymore. It's like CRTs. No one can build them as well as they used to be because the expertise is lost knowledge but they're still old technology.
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>>222912405
why for clean nuclear fuel and bombs too if need be.
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>>222912421
>why for clean nuclear fuel and bombs too if need be.
oops i miss fired. kek.
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Odo is gross to look at.
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>>222909871
Caught watching STD on the big screen.
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>The official franchise—from The Original Series to modern iterations like Discovery and Strange New Worlds—has never included tickling in its scripts or broadcast episodes.

Anyone else find this weird?
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>>222912421
Maybe you're in the Southern hemisphere where toilets flush backwards, did you ever think of THAT?
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>>222912465
Odo had sex with Kira and you're still a virgin lmao
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been thinkin bout going to see search for spock by myself this weekend
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Which TNG episodes are you go-to's to introduce someone to Star Trek?

For the very first thing they watch, I recommend:
>S3E04: "Who Watches The Watchers"
>S2E09: "The Measure of a Man"
>S5E02: "Darmok"

in my shortlist of episodes to show soon after are:
>S2E16: "Q Who" (introduces the Borg)
>S3E10: "The Defector" (good Romulan intro episode)
>S4E14: "Clues" (good whodunnit with creepy Data)
>S4E15: "First Contact" (another first contact story but with more advanced aliens)
>S5E05: "Disaster" (fun looks at many characters thinking their way out of problems)
>S5E06: "The Game" (actually good Wesley ep)
>S5E18: "Cause and Effect" (good mystery)
>S5E25: "Inner Light" (beautiful)
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>>222912554
technically odo doesnt have sexual organs
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>>222912554
he put a SLIME PSEUDOPOD that he formed for the general purpose of sex into Kira's (absolutely run through by multiple species) Bajoran pussy. The only proper sex-analogue he had was when he blobbed out with the rest of his genocidal kin.
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>>222912591
That just makes it worse that he smashed a baddie from bajor and you're still fucking your own hand and virgin loser.
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>>222912581
My go-to's are usually Duet and Balance of Terror.
I have been thinking a bit about a TNG option though, and I'm leaning towards Conundrum. It's a solid mystery, shows the moral core of the Federation, and has a twist that really only works for someone who doesn't know the cast.
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"Spock's Brain" has a different meaning in today's slang
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>>222912581
Not TNG but I love The Corbomite Maneuver, fun little perfect Trek episode and a great showcase of Kirk's character.
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>>222912702
>Duet
That is very interesting. To my mind, starting with anything DS9 is a big no-no, even if it's my favorite.
>Balance of Terror
Great pick
>Conundrum
Also a great pick, though since they don't know the crew the fact that there's a stranger aboard might hit a bit different
>>222912825
>Corbomite Maneuver
excellent
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>>222909982
>Well, Black Science Man the anomaly that was formerly your son brutally killed one of my crew members and almost blew up the Enterprise. But don't worry, I'll stop at nothing to help you get your dead gay son out of subspace.
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>>222910875
He's my favourite Trek captain.
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The best TNG episode to show someone is undoubtedly Cause and Effect.
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>>222912906
ALL HANDS ABANDON SHI-
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>>222911807
>It's true, isn't it.

No it's not they stole from JMS and ripped off B5!!!!
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>>222912939
I actually choked back laughter when I realized what they pulled with Section 13 -> Section 31

Those bastards got away with it
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>>222912966
Or rather Bureau 13, whatever
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>>222912844
NTA but I think Duet is fine if you're "playing the hits" to get someone interested. I guess the danger of that strategy is that if they're hooked and really like it, then you've stolen some of the best episodes they would've had ahead of them.
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>>222912844
I think I understand your reluctance to use DS9, but I think Duet in particular is just a great standalone that can sell people on what Trek is. Doesn't spoil anything, all the context you need for the history between cardies and bajorans is given at the start by Kira, it has the classic moral lesson, and primes new viewers with the idea that the show can be tense and gripping without a bunch of action and special effects.
>though since they don't know the crew the fact that there's a stranger aboard might hit a bit different
That's partly why I chose that episode. That experience is only possible if it's the first episode you show them, and they can always go back and rewatch it for the experience the rest of us had.
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>>222913031
>and they can always go back and rewatch it for the experience the rest of us had.
Not quite. For me, the first time I watched DS9 I knew nothing about it, had heard nothing about it, didn't follow a guide, wasn't really told about it by anyone specifically. I had no idea Duet was coming, particularly since I had such low expectations about S1 after TNG's S1. It hit me like a sledgehammer because it was totally unexpected and I wasn't really sold on the Bajoran/Cardassian thing really until that episode.
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>TOS
Wagon Train + Forbidden Planet
>TNG
Star Trek + The Love Boat
>DS9
The Rifleman + Babylon 5
>VOY
Tng + Gilligan's Island
>ENT
Voy + Quantum Leap

Trust me I'm an expert
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You know remember the time Worf joined a Federation fundamentalist group and reenacted the plot to Recess the Movie by ruining everyone's summer vacation.
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>>222913105
>and reenacted the plot to Recess the Movie
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>>222913089
>Gilligan's Island
Definitely Lost in Space but close enough, I guess. And ENT is more like VOY + CW sloppa or some shit.
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>>222913088
That line was about Conundrum, referring to the greentext.
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>>222911767
people said he cried for about half an hour at the breakdown scene when the publisher didn't wanna sell his black science fiction...
he's atleast a medium on the crazy scale
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>>222913156
My bad
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>>222913135
>Definitely Lost in Space but close enough, I guess.
You are NOT an expert like me.
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>>222913267
Yeah, it's a good easter egg. But it's still Lost in Space. Don't make me dig up writer quotes of them saying it directly because they definitely exist.
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>>222913162
haven't read a single account of anyone ever saying he was challenging to work with. in fact everyone mostly just glazes him for how detail oriented he was and how they liked when he was directing. he was only a bit weird in an interpersonal context like you wouldn't really try to make smalltalk with him.
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>>222913292
Go ahead. I actually watch Lost in Space. You've never seen a single episode. Voyager has more in common with Andromeda than Lost in Space.
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>>222913344
Well you're right about that and I can't find any quotes, so I will honorably concede. I did watch part of an episode of Lost in Space and I thought it was gay btw.
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>>222913294
crazy doesn't mean bad, sometimes crazy good.
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>>222913491
Don't let your seethe hit you on your way out.
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>>222913641
>seethe
About what? I just did the most impossible thing on 4chan: admit I was wrong.
Was not wrong about that being a fag show for retards thoughbeit.
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>>222910122
It was about the survival of the human race!
Still pretty bleak though.
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What 90s/early 00s sci-fi show should I give a shot instead of always just rewatching Trek + X-Files? Stargate has always intrigued me but 200+ eppies and multiple shows+movies is rather daunting. I've also wanted to give B5 a shot because of the whole DS9 connection.
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How did this not count as spam? jans let it go on for months
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>>222914215
Stop what you're doing and go watch B5
It's that good

Stargate is also good but not B5-tier
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>>222914223
This was a powerful, unbeatable show for one that always hovered below 1 million viewers.
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>>222914254
I second B5 immediately
Stargate is great too, with its length you can watch it more casually. It loves to string out its longer arcs so just enjoy it as an episodic show with progression.
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>>222909858
star trek sex with wesley
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>>222912554
I kneel. My solid ass could never satisfy the major.
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>>222914215
Stargate SG-1 is probably second only to TNG in terms of being fucking comfy. Makes you want to live in a military bunker under a mountain.

Babylon 5 is a bit overrated but it has a great war arc. After that, it kind of falls apart in the end, and most people are thrown off by the change in lead actors between S1 and S2 but that's because the original guy has a horrible mental illness that comes outta nowhere. But they find a way to cleverly and tastefully bring him back and include him later.
B5 has great line to line writing though, some fantastic characters and acting performances.
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>>222912664
He and the female Changeling had solid sex to see what it was like, but it wasn’t enjoyable for either of them.
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>>222913105
That’s kind’ve a weird episode, since it’s very specifically about 1990s post-Cold War military spending cuts and force reductions by the United States and the West more broadly.
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>>222910159
Drennik was so stereotypically jewish looking, if he wasn't a jew, he sure missed a good chance.
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https://youtu.be/4isNf8ZNwPk?is=Fw-klV8QdggmOVqM
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>>222912581
My girlfriend enjoyed Data's Day. Otherwise she's just seen random clips I've shown her.
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I often find myself thinking of what it would be like to be interrogated by a trio of curious Tal Shiar women.
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>>222912581
Cause and Effect feels like the most "this is what Star Trek is" episode, though it's missing the emotional and ethical aspects that are also major aspects of Trek. I guess I'd go with Measure of a Man and Inner Light for those.
For the other shows I'd say Corbomite Maneuver, Duet, Deadlock, and A Night in Sickbay are good intros to what those shows are all about.
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>>222909871
>Computer, generate a replica of councilor Deanna Troi at age 38 after bearing 3 children.
>Make her 200 feet tall and generate a medieval landscape.
> [SPECIFY PARAMETERS]
>Computer, place her several kilometers away and load her into a catapult powerful enough to launch her into the air.
>Make sure her legs are spread and adjust the trajectory so that Councilor Troi's vagina will collide with my exact position.
> [WORKING]
>Computer have Councilor Troi scream passages from the collective works of Adolf Hitler speeches while she is mid air.
>Randomize selection.
>Disengage safety protocols.
>Set file name "suicide letter" and send to Starfleet and Councilor Troi.
>Computer......Launch
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>>222909846
Hahaha. Deep Space Swine ain’t Trek. Never was. Never will be.
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>>222915717
Better than Goyager and Benterprise.
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>>222915717
It literally says Star Trek in the title
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>>222915756
Doesn't mean I have to like it.
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>>222910875
>Am I the only one who likes Avery Brooks?
Why did they always have him kissing his teenage son?
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>>222915923
Something about black dads. Like the good fathers, they have to over compensate for the reason the single mom epidemic is astronomical in their community they have to be overly affectionate with their kids
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>>222915923
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>>222916033
I didn't realize that was still a problem in the 24th century.
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>>222916055
There's a reason they never went to Africa whenever they visited earth. Borderline buttfucking.
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>>222915923
You realize every race but germanics (not counting french) and asians are like that right
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>>222916425
Citation needed.

I've watched plenty of Japanese and Korean TV and I can't ever recall seeing a father kiss his teenage son. Seen a decent amount of Telemundo too, no kissing.
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I was watching this random video yesterday and it was 2 NK detectors/escapees and they were showing them video of American babies and their parents and asking them to talk about what life was like for them with their fatheds growing up. And the older guy literally pointed to the screen and was like
>In developed, capitalist countries fathers love and play with their children like this

he said in NK it's always mothers and that fathers are never affectionate. he also said that you're so fucking hungry all the time you're angry and take it out on the kid
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>>222910875
He gets a lot better when he shaves his head and grows a goatee.
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>>222910875
He almost immediately became my favorite captain. His relationship with Jake did a lot to ground him. I also like they didnt write him as the anti Picard but as his own character. I really dislike how they ended his arc, though.
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>>222916614
He'll come back once he gets those cigarettes.
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>>222916474
>I've watched plenty of Japanese and Korean TV and I can't ever recall seeing a father kiss his teenage son.
Can you read
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>>222914215
Picket Fences
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>>222910961
I've never seen such a young Riker.
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>>222917648
Get the enteedought
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>>222917669
Oh dear oh my I seem to have accidentally dosed myself with the aphrodisiac again!
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>>222917648
>>222917694
I think this guy is the biggest nepobabby in Star Trek. Denise Crosby being the second biggest.
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>>222917750
who's kid is he?
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>>222917800
kid of sudanese political elite, nephew of actor and director
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>>222917800
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>>222918340
>but how do you know what their values are
I'm so sick of these "people".
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>>222909846
What would be a mirror universe of nu trek? Actualy good show?
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>>222917750
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>>222918774
>What would be a mirror universe of nu trek?
Probably DailyWire slop
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>>222909846
i haven't laughed at a pepe in over a decade
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Nu Trek cannot hurt you if you dont acknowledge its existence. I will simply watch TNG until I die.
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>>222919422
>i haven't laughed in over a decade
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It can't hurt you if you acknowledge its existence because TV shows can't hurt functional adults.
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>>222918950
Hey, she worked hard to get those roles.
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I dont like it when people take my posts and rewrite them, are you the same guy on /gg/ stop gang stalking me
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is it worth sitting in a room with other people to see TMP in theaters? ive seen it a dozen times on tv.
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>>222920171
>is it worth sitting in a room with other people
no
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>walk past jadzia's quarters
>despite soundproofing hear GLUK GLUK GLUK GLUK GLUK
>but i just saw worf on the promenade not even two minutes ago
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>>222920171
Yeah man it's on the theater screen with the big speakers. It's wroth it.
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>>222920171
>Go to a TMP legacy screening
>Be the youngest person there by 35 years
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i dont remember ds9 well enough at this point but is there a reason they didn't move ezri to Voyager? she only did one season but she was super cute. is it because of that hag janeway
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>>222920239
voyager was already in its 4th season so it wouldn't have made much sense
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>>222920239
I'm not in a position to check right now, so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I dimly recall that Voyager started at season 6 of deep space nine and therefore it still would have been jetzia
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>>222920262
it started during s4 of dsninny
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>>222920239
She would have mogged the Voyager girls too hard and it would have made them depressed.
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>>222920270
they should have hired her to be seven of nine so that they could have hidden her lopsided eyes with borg face cybernetics
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>>222920269
Thanks
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Begun, the de boer wars have.
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>>222912405
I have a 100 gross of self-sealing stem bolts I can offer as trade.
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>>222920641
We don't need to explain everything. Like that augment arc in ENT that explains smooth Klingons.
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>>222915717
DS9 may not be Trek, but it is very much /trek/.
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>>222920641
>the magic particle that does whatever
I take "What is theoretical physics in Science Fiction" for 200 Alex
They found a way to explain replicators with actual scientific research, yet this is a common criticism. Just as with the botched judges quote, the blame is on the retarded viewers not the actual script.
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>>222917750
It's probably this guy who was only hired because Rick Berman likes jazz

His grandpa was incredibly based though to be fair and is an all-time great for sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGZuKSYKVSo
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>>222920774
He's definitely in the same arena as Siddig and Crosby. Siddig was a pretty crummy actor at first, Crosby never got better and Montgomery never got a chance to improve. I'd say he got the shorter end of the stick so I'd rank Siddig as the biggest nepo among the three, Montgomery as the second biggest and Crosby as the third simply because she also suffered a lot by being disowned by Bing-a-ling.
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>>222921050
what does that mean? Nothing ever happens around this schizopost, explain yourself.
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>>222921061
it makes me happy to post it
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>>222921094
Fair. Carry on Ensign.
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Gaghagool? Ova heah!
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>>222921336
it's Gabagool
or Capicola
the fuck
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>>222921346
You give me 1000 latinum.
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>>222921372
1000 what? dram? milliliter? strips? bars?
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>>222921386
We here for da Moogie's money.
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>>222920228
yes but i saw a group of 6 booked and got intimidated. i dont want the geezers to laugh at me
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>>222921405
just bring a gun
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>>222921405
my theater is full except for awful seats. I was thinking of going but I dont wanna be in a full theater...
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My main reason to spend big on a home theatre was other people. Won't see me spending cinema money to be crammed into a room full of stinky mouthbreathers.
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>>222921401
These two suck each others jumja sticks.
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>fire hazard poster is a LD tranny
KWAB
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>>222917800
>>222918258
Siddig is descended from the Mahdi who defeated the British in the Siege of Khartoum; Auberjonois was also descended from Napoleon's younger sister. It's a shame the show never gave them much to do together.
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You got a tribble on your hat.
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>that time you ran two discords
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>>222922607
And how did that go? All it did was tear /trek/ apart.
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>>222922607
Damn, what happened to Dasha and Anna?
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>>222922454
o_o I want to deny these accusations, but what I'm being accused of is insane schitzo babble that I do not comprehend
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>>222910875
He's the best captain
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>>222922650
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>>222922607
My god, Mullen really is a tiny fucking man. He's also lost all of his muscle, pretty funny.
>>222922650
The discord days honestly weren't even close to as bad as the last 3-4 years. You might not like hearing this but it's true.
Honestly, schizos left on the outside just became obsessed with the discords and wouldn't shut the fuck up about them even though quite literally nothing ever happened on them, nothing was ever coordinated, and it was mostly just BF and VF trying to out-attention-whore each other.
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>>222911235
He's the best captain. A man of culture compared to the man of adventure that was Kirk and the man of principal that was Picard.
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>>222922686
>doesn't deny KWAB
KWAB
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>>222922886
Discord wars started when some faggot would get mad at BF or VF and start spamming /trek/ 24/7 to get back at them
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>>222922983
well, I had to google kwab but its true T_T I'm a kwab
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>>222923048
kek what a kwab
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What the hell is this, /trek/bros and why have I never heard of it or seen it posted in here?
>>222910442
>>222910442
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>>222922454
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>>222923195
Cause it looks like shit and is being advertised with such phrases as "from the producers of", which tells you without a doubt that it's shit.
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>>222923351
>not interested in MacGuyver x Q in the Old West
GAYYYYY
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>>222923195
>>222923500
Also Michael Piller as creator/showrunner
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>>222923500
more like Inspector Gadget in the Weird West
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>>222923722
Wiki wiki wild wild west
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>>222923351
It sounds like it could be pretty good. I might watch it when I finish Brisco Country Jr.
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>androgenous race
>nearly all clearly women
I guess that one in the back left is a dude but really, what were they thinking, this episode should've been aborted in preproduction like an intersex baby
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Sisko is one of the good ones.
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JUST SIT NORMALLY
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>>222924815
He is asserting his gender superiority with his extensive manspread technique
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>>222924815
TBF Frakes had a back injury with a uniform that put pressure on the back. If Starfleet HR existed he'd probably need a letter from Dr. Crusher allowing him to sit like that.
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>>222925096
Was it in the script that he had to mount every chair he sits on from behind?
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>>222909846
time to loose it
>https://youtu.be/9FRsKHyX42I
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>>222924727
The haircuts were a mistake. They make them look too much like Romulans. If anything they should have been bald. Sure you already have the Deltans but only real Trek nerds could call that.
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>>222925246
>only real Trek nerds could call that
clueless fuck
we WERE all real fans and all hell would've broken lose equating those proto-tranny wierdoes with Deltans
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>>222924815
he is
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>>222922886
VF just used the discords to recruit people for her weird internet crusades she's always going on.
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>>222925560
What are her crusades? I've been ootl of the loop for a while
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>>222925246
bald is sexy. tight hoods would better
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>>222925726
Back in the old days, when a woman having to cut her hair was seen as something worse than death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHgdGTQiVbc
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>>222925726
I’d penetrate her V’ger orifice, if you know what I mean.
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>>222925944
>Even the smallest body functions are exactly duplicated. And every exocrine system is here, too -- even eye moisture.
It's nice that the script went out of its way to let you know the probe was still fuckable.
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>>222926047
Based Gene.
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>>222920641
They’re just mad that classic Trek could get away with silly nonsense episodes. While SNW feels like rejected Futurama plots.
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>>222926520
A lot of nutrekkies come off as bitter and jealous
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quark deserved to be nagus. he was a competent businessman and accomplished diplomat and he softened on the womens rights nonsense, he even became a woman to to help the zek retain power.
rom should not have been released until after his execution.
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Animated series Star Trek: Scouts will debut its second season on YouTube on the 8th
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>>222926570
he would not have been a good nagus because he has that same kind of inferiority complex bullshit that Worf has that he's not a "real" Ferengi and everything he does is based on insecurity and self loathing so he's actually easily manipulated
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>>222926702
I tihnk quark got enough development through the show where he could have grown enough to prevent that.
It's already kind of weird in the finale that he's having a ferenghi conservative tantrum again and ignoring all the other quark episodes about that
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>>222926740
I akshually disagree with you because at the end of the show where it looks like he actually is gonna be the next nagus, he is way more distraught over the changes than Brunt who is explaining them to him and Brunt is more of a "real" Ferengi than Quark. it just goes to show than even when he's in power his priority is adhering to the old ideals that he felt he could never live up to than looking ahead
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Sorry for that whack -a-mole thingie I did last night
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>>222924727
Yeah, I dunno. If they had a mix of men and women (the one in the back isn't a man, I think it's just an actually androgynous woman) it would be too obvious they aren't REALLY androgynous...
Anyway, I don't even know what this was supposed to be a metaphor for in the 80s. Whole concept fails. Like the abortion episode with the space irish that everyone hates, but I like for the lady with the sweater puppies.
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>>222927640
its about gays and gay coversion therapy.
its a little more subtle than this but basically shes a hetero woman trapped in a homosex society.
easier for straights to identify with her.
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>>222927809
Didn't Frakes want there to be a gay kiss in that one but Paramount/Berman said no? I guess only hot women could lock lips in the 1990s.
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>>222928054
i heard he wanted a man to plan the role to make it more queer but they shut that down.
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>>222926570
>This is between me and Odo, FUCK OFF!
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>>222927601
>Listen, Chris, I'm sorry. I honestly forgot you were in the room...
>Just, you know, she was there and I was there and it just happened! I thought the beeps were from some medical equipment...
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>>222923195
It's Michael Piller's wrstern series that he did during the start of Voyager. That's why he wasn't as involved in the show as in DS9.
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what's your favourite season of SNW?
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>>222911235
>soap opera will they wont they shit
???
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>>222928677
I thought 2 was the best. 4 so far has been an unmitigated disaster. The only watchable episode was the last one
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>>222912581
Emissary (to introduce the characters)
Duet (obviously)
Move Along Home
If Wishes Were Horses

If they enjoy the latter two, then I know they aren't plebs
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>>222928715
kira oda
leeta rom
jadiza worf
ezri bashir
sisko kassidy
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>>222928815
>jadzia worf
they were clearly attracted to each other in their first episode together
>sisko kassidy
introduced by jake to date. they kissed in her second appearance
>leeta rom
first had any significant screen time together in the strike episode. then they were dating in the next episode
>ezri bashir
not a "will they wont they". they just barely had any time since they were doing a ton with her in the final season
>kira odo
this is really the only one that counts

so out of 5, you were only right on 1. do you just think romance = "will they wont they"?
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>>222928961
youre being too literal. the point it ds9 has too much romance. everyone is pairing off.
but also leeta confesses to being interested in rom in the risa episode and then they flirt for a few episodes before the zimmerman episode 9 eps later. its a whole arc and it doesnt need to happen at all.
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>>222929118
>you're not supposed to know what words actually mean you're supposed to interpret retard, my native and only language

how bout nah
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>>222929118
I hate workplace shows that end with everyone happily pairing up with each other. It’s corporate propaganda that you’ll find your soulmate at work. And then you get an actual job and everyone barely tolerates each other for 40 hours.
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>>222925663
Right now he's encouraging people to trade with pirates and smugglers.
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Why are so many nuTrekkers old? So weird.
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>>222929446
There are idiots and fools at all ages
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>>222928677
Two. Three is good too but I never got on board with the Pattel storyline
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Post characters who could solo the Dominion
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>>222930243
why did he source live Ferengi tube grubs, anyways
surely Rom once every few weeks wasn't enough to make that worth it
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>>222930335
*Nog
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>>222930335
There are other bug-eating aliens.
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>You WILL eat puree of tube grubs, Jake.
>You WILL comply with the safe and effective Changeling blood tests if you want to go back to work, Dad.
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>>222930335
>wife dies
shows up to work the next day, slightly upset
>jadiza dies
needs a month of peeling potatos to clear his head
what a faggot. ds9 sucks
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>>222930483
>shows up to work the next day, slightly upset
Liar.
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>>222930243
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>>222930243
*mogs*
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>>222930243
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>>222930243
One Xindi 9/11 beam right into the goo sea and the Dominion is done
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>>222927809
As one commentator put it, "The story of one woman's brave quest for cock in the face of lesbian tyranny."
>>222928184
Frakes really is a theater kid at heart
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>>222930243
dominion war never should have happened. it was very not star trek.
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>>222922607
and then tillyfag spammed /trek/ forever
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>>222924727
wouldn't, wouldn't
no fucking way
wouldn't
holy wouldn't
wouldn't
enough to know I wouldn't
and wouldn't
impressive group of ugly lesbians
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>>222930243
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>>222930243
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>>222922607
Run a third. We miss you.
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it was a busted hazard
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>>222914215
Farscape obviously
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>COMPUTER! Activate... the Emergency Picard Hologram.
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>>222918950
Does she still have the most acting credits in trek or did stewart overtake her because of zombie trek?
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>>222931540
dorn has the most.
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>>222931540
>>222931627
Majel has the most episode credits
Dorn has the most physical appearances
Armstrong & Combs have the most number of distinct roles played
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>>222929118
>Picard had a 15 year "will they wont they" relationship with Beverly
>Riker had a 15 year "will they wont they" relationship with Dianna
>every main character had multiple love interests throughout the series
are you retarded anon
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>>222930243
Weyoun 6. They feared him so badly that they were willing to kill a Changeling just to take him out.
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>>222931687
i never said i liked it on tng.
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>>222931687
nta but tng barely ever featured those things but in ds9 it's a constant thing and at one point even eats up most of a season (7).
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Ezri Dax banging both Worf and Bashir in the same season was a little much, but in the context of a confused symbiote seeking closure with her klingon ex-husband and then catching Bashir on the rebound wasn't that odd.
All together it's more than a standard office full of random banging and pairing off, but it's also a military force at war in an exotic, prestigious setting
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Ezri should've gotten with Quark. Would've even fit that she's much shorter than Jadzia.
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Odo episodes are either harrumph it's a mystery or harrumph i'm an incel
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>>222932064
Ezri???
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I just learned about The Burn and I think it's the dumbest idea NuTrek has ever pushed. Not because of the subspace tantrum, but the concept of creating a future where the Federation no longer exists.
Everybody these days says "the only way to save Star Trek is to kill it", and this is the only thing that has had me agree, because it really feels like there's no coming back from it, even if Discovery & Academy both get decanonized in their entirety.
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>>222932150
>I just learned about The Burn and I think it's the dumbest idea NuTrek has ever pushed. Not because of the subspace tantrum, but the concept of creating a future where the Federation no longer exists.
The Burn was taken from the concept for a scrapped 2006 animated Trek called Final Frontiers, in which in a renewed Romulan/Federation war used Omega particle mines as a weapon and tore up subspace.
This was a perfectly acceptable way to make warp travel constrained.
Sad kelpien throwing a tantrum was retarded.
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>“I would say it's really kind of a look at the institution of Starfleet and any institution as a whole that has existed for a long time and what that does,” Daley tells Inverse. “ I think the portrayal of Starfleet and the people that work within it have always been generally idealized versions of what the future could be. And while this [script] isn’t a cynical or nihilistic take on it, I think it does acknowledge that there are some bad apples in every institution that can have a strong voice and can really make an impact on that institution and everything it stands for.”

>“Two movies we cite as comps for what we’re hoping to do are Training Day and Crimson Tide,” Goldstein tells Inverse. “It takes place almost in real time, and it just is a whole other look at what a Star Trek movie could be without betraying the fundamentals of what it should be,” Daley adds.
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you dildos in particular and everyone else in general are going to have to let this idea of a 'canon' go
it's just autism contrails
these franchises are never going to stop shitting out material forever
giving a fuck if it all lines up is not sustainable
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>>222932229
I have no problem with constraining warp travel, my issue is that the subspace tantrum instantly detonates all dilithium in the galaxy, immediately destroying the Federation itself. Reading the synopsis for Final Frontier on Memorybase-Alpha, it's clear that the intent was for the two-halves of the Federation to operate autonomously of eachother and attempt to rebuild in the wake of war. Post-Burn Federation does not exist, by Kurtzman's design, and that's what's REALLY retarded.
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>>222932290
>autism contrails
This is the new name of my band.
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>>222932323
In this we are in perfect agreement. I really wish the omega mine approach was what they used.
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>>222932338
No, you're still not understanding.
If Kurtzman had opted for an intelligent way to destroy the Federation, it would still be destroying the Federation, and that is the thing I think is the most retarded decision to make for a franchise entirely about Starfleet and their journeys.
And let's be real, even if Kurtzman had decided to use the Omega Mine idea, it would be something equally retarded, like the Romulans hacking the default Replicator recipebook to only shit out Omega particles.
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>>222932325
hmm yes hey kill yourself, waterhead
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>>222932393
stomp clap get fucked
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>>222932375
>If Kurtzman had opted for an intelligent way to destroy the Federation, it would still be destroying the Federation, and that is the thing I think is the most retarded decision to make for a franchise entirely about Starfleet and their journeys.
If Kurtzman just used the premise from Final Frontiers it would have been fine. He was hands off with LOW and PRO. Franky I'm surprised Fuller didn't use it.
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>>222932441
Yes, obviously, if he had used a premise where the Federation weren't bombed out of existence, it would've been fine.
Is Prodigy any good? I thought it was skewed towards a younger demographic so I haven't looked into it, but I've recently been coming around on Lower Decks so I'm open to others' opinions on it.
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>>222932471
Also I know how that sentence structure sounds, since I have bad grammar, but I'm aware LD isn't for a younger demographic.
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>>222932471
>Is Prodigy any good? I thought it was skewed towards a younger demographic so I haven't looked into it,
It is an interesting sequel to VOY and oddly prequel to PIC. It has heart. I would put it in the same category as TAS, where it's clearly aimed young but writes at a higher developmental level, almost as a "stretch goal" to get kids to think more critically, and so it is acceptable to adults akin to a TAS rewatch.
The animation is hot buttered dog ass though.
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>>222932507
>The animation is hot buttered dog ass though.
Oh damn, is it worse than that french shitshow Miraculous Ladybug? That's gotta be the most recent poorly animated show I've ever had the displeasure of catching a glimpse of. Like, I don't care how bad an artstyle is, but if it's choppy, poorly choreographed, or has consistently bad lip-syncing it becomes unwatchable no matter how good the writing might potentially be.
Then again, I do like the Delta Quadrant...
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>>222915923
sorry your parents didn't show you affection
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>bf posts
>sperg starts spamming fake nutrek engagement
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>>222932866
I don't come into this general that often, me posting about The Burn right after a tripfag I don't even recognize is coincidental. I'd hardly consider my post-rate spamming, and there's nothing fake about how stupid I think Picard or Discovery are.
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>>222912895
In-universe he would be the captain I'd prefer to serve under. Thinking about it some more, I think it subconsciously has something to do with the other captains being childless.
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>sisko is the only captain with a wife(s) and kid(s)
>sisko is the only other starfleet officer besides o'brien to be married with children
s-shit...
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>>222933556
I thought Picard had a failson. Or maybe that was just a scam.
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Can I be a true Trekkie if the only content I enjoyed was TNG and their movies? The old stuff was okay, but it never really resonated with me, and the new and newer stuff is pure cancer. DS9 was probably the closest to reeling me in, but I still lost interest. I can rewatch TNG episodes whenev tho as they're max comfy.
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>>222932290
>canon
>not sustainable
Literally all it would take is for them to keep the timeline moving forwards rather than constantly going going back on themselves and to stop treading in such well established waters. The franchise's canon supposedly becoming increasingly rigid and difficult to navigate isn't what led them to redesign the Discovery Klingons into something completely unrecognisable when they'd had a well-established, iconic look that even normies know for almost FORTY YEARS.
Star Trek's problem is that it's run by retard narcissists with an inferiority complex. They know they're incapable of producing anything even nearly as good as what came before them, but they're desperate to leave their mark on the franchise. It's why everything looks different, it's why the star of the show was something as unfathomably contrived as Spock's never before mentioned adopted human sister who's a black Mary Sue with a man's name. All their reasoning for straying so far from canon is just pathetic ad hoc excuses for their terrible showrunning/writing ability.
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>>222933791
nah you sound kinda like a normie ngl
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>>222933868
damn that sucks man. thanks for being honest.
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>>222933863 (me)
>The franchise's canon supposedly becoming increasingly rigid and difficult to navigate isn't what led them to redesign the Discovery Klingons
I guess I should add that alongside their insatiable desire to vandalise Star Trek, my pet theory is that they were feeling really icky about Klingon makeup resembling blackface. The new makeup being a full-head prosthetic with more alien purplish black colouring rather than mostly brown facepaint gives them more distance from the accusation... the actors' ability to emote or speak clearly be damned!
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>>222933791
You're not a true trekker yet but you may still become one in the futre. When I was younger I was basically like you (except I've always hated the tng movies) and eventually I realized how great the rest of actual star trek was. Give it time and then jump in again.
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>>222933791
Your trekkie status depends entirely if you can stomach voyager enough for a full watch through once
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>>222934196
Voyager is the only one I have yet to try. This chick at work has been trying to get me to watch cuz she says it's her fav, but she's kinda wonky and I doubt I'd like what she likes.
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>>222934213
Women have a real bias towards Voyager, I don't know if it's as basic as just being due to the female captain or if there's something more to it
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>>222909871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKdf4duQeNM
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>>222934415
Chakotay is straight out of a Mills & Bone novel
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star trek sex with david corwin
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>>222934501
I love the way he pronounces "futanari" in this clip. His intonation for the entire program protocols is on point, but it's that one word that gets me to smile every time.
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>>222934611
He says it correctly. I have a feeling you don't know how to.
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>>222934658
FU-tuh-naw-ree
I think it's his accent, mostly. Or the novelty of hearing it spoken when one seldom does.
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>>222934690
That isn't how it's said.
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>>222934782
Well how about you post your pronunciation?
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>>222934813
ふたなり
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Have you ever been stopped by police for carrying Star Trek memorabilia?
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>>222934875
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>>222934886
>capable of decapitating its victims
Is it? I mean besides how they never looked like they even really had any sort of blade to them on the show to me, and I doubt that one is much sharper, but I figure its 4-pronged design would be a hindrance to any real attempt at amputating any bodypart, it's too likely to get stuck in the flesh or catch on another part of the body to make such a big and clean cut
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>>222935000
>>222935000
>>222935000
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>>222934929
Just have Google translate or something say it out loud for you, unlike English, Japanese is thankfully very phonetic with less room for guesswork or interpretation



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